Episode 20 - The Episode with Captain Meghan Labrecque from Brockton - Plugged In Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
and welcome everyone.
We are back for another episode, episode number 20.
20 big 20, pretty amazing 20 ofthe plugged in podcast.
How you guys doing this.
Oh, I let it out of the bag.
It's the morning.
It's the morning Anothermorning episode.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's a Monday.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
That is true.
We almost never record onMonday.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
I know there's a reason for that.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
I don't have any opening rants.
I'd throw it to Loretta.
You got any opening thoughts?
Today Rant it up Rant, rant,just sad, sad, sad day, sad, sad
day.
I wasn't gonna bring this up.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
I know you don't, you don't have to it's at the
forefront of my mind so we'rerecording today, the day after
the mets lost the nlcs and thejets lost to the steelers it was
a big, it was a night, it was anight I shed some tears because
I had so she did.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's true, I was so I was just so sad not only did
the jets lose, but they wereplaying the stealers.
I texted you guys and I wasjust like what?
What is it even like in yourhouse right now?

Speaker 4 (01:13):
no, nate was a very gracious winner, but I did at
some point think, when they, youknow, ran in that final
touchdown to make it what?
35 to 16, I was like you couldturn the tv off at this point,
but he didn't.
And then we watched the postgame and then they announced the
mets to 16.
I was like you could turn thetv off at this point, but he
didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
And then we watched the post game and then they
announced the mets loss and Iwas like I'm just leaving the
room I was just watching becauseI wanted to see if russell
wilson was going to have somecheesy like sign off at the end.
That's why I wanted to watchthe danger us I.
I sensed the sorrow in the room, and so I was like I was like
grabbing laundry out of thedryer and I'm like I'm just

(01:45):
gonna fold the laundry here.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
And just I do want to know in the last episode you
said that you uh stand up,basically the whole game.
Oh, I do.
Were you standing?

Speaker 4 (01:54):
he was standing, so the first what quarter he was
sitting.
And then he said I think I haveto go put my tj watch jersey on
and stand up and I was like,can we just talking?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
And what happened after?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
like the second quarter, and then he's like well
, that's why I stand up.
And I was like you really needto stop talking.
Um, it was hard, though, CauseI had like the Mets on my phone
and then I was watching, so Ikept missing things.
I'm like what was In the bottomof the eighth in the Mets game.
I just turned it off.
I walked myself to the kitchen,made myself a bowl of ice cream

(02:28):
, and I was like I'm going toturn to my ice cream at this
point, In a weak moment, but Iwas so sad.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know what I was watching last night against my
will.
Love is Blind.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
I knew you were going to say Love is Blind Love is
Blind, season seven, nice Ihaven't gotten into Love is
Blind, season seven, yet Love isBlind season seven Nice I
haven't gotten into Love isBlind season seven yet Against
my will.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
But now that my team no, I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I know.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
We recap every season .
I'll be watching that tonight,just to turn my brain off.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
So episode 20 of the Plugged In Podcast.
We're going to jump right intoit.
I feel like this could be along episode, I don't know, but
here's what you have to lookforward to listen to.
Today we're going to cover someHalloween talk, favorite
costumes, biggest fears, andmaybe we're going to talk about

(03:15):
our favorite candies Alsofurther along in today's episode
.
So we're starting a new thing.
I'll hold this up for thecamera, but we all purchased
this book called the RuthlessElimination of Hurry, and so
we're going to start this thingwhere we're going to read a
couple chapters and then we'llstart to recap on the podcast
what we've read.

(03:35):
So if you want to do this withus, go ahead and purchase this
book.
You can buy it online.
It's very not expensive.
No, not at all.
Ten bucks, yeah, ten bucks, youcan buy it online.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
It's very not expensive.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, not at all Ten bucks, yeah, ten bucks.
You can have it deliveredprobably the day of Same day.
Yeah, the Ruthless Eliminationof Hurry by John Mark Comer, is
that how you say it?
Yeah, it's not.
Comer, oh, comer, oh, to eat.
Yeah, so yeah we'll talk aboutthis later, but the first couple
of chapters very, very engaging, very very easy read.

(04:05):
So if you want to purchase thatbook and and work through it
with us.
Uh, you are more than welcometo do that.
And also, maybe the mostexciting part of today we have a
special guest.
Uh, pretty soon we're going tohave captain Megan Lebreck from
the Brockton core.
She's going to come in andshe's going to come in and she's
going to highlight some of theministry that the Brockton Corps
is doing and we're going tohear a little bit more about her

(04:27):
.
Yeah, but you guys have anythoughts about Megan before she
comes in?

Speaker 4 (04:31):
I love Megan.
She is not only just like ajust a good human being, she's
like a great speaker and so downto earth and I think, doesn't
let the politics of stuff get inthe way of her ministry.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
I love, love, megan.
Yeah, and their family seems tohave a great balance between
ministry and family life, whichI'm always desiring.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
that Well, it's exactly what this book is going
to be talking about.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Plus, Megan and Stefan are great foodies.
They're always telling us whereto get good food.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
They know all the all-you-can-eat sushi spots
everywhere.
Well, we'll have to ask herabout that.
The all-you-can-eat sushi spotseverywhere?

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Well, I'll have to ask her about that it's pretty
awesome my experience with bothof them.
So I wouldn't say that I knowStephan or Megan very well
personally, but from what I seeprogrammatically from afar is
just that they love their people, they are real pastors to their
people and that is just soneeded in our Salvation Army
officers.
For sure, so we're going to hearfrom Megan in just a little bit

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, but let's jump right into this.
So this episode, I believe, isairing November 1st, the day
after Halloween, going aroundthe table.
When you were a kid so thehighlight of your Halloween life
what was the best costume thatyou ever had?
Go?

Speaker 4 (05:41):
ahead.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Go ahead, Larry Start us off.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
I don't know how old I was, but I was Queen Amidala
like.
I don't know the scene, butlike when she I think she's like
in her yeah, I don't know,royal garb where it's like it
was like the long with the whiteface and the red lip Queen of
Naboo, right, I guess?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
No, I just want to make sure I got the right queen
Correct.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Correct, no, so that was probably the best.
It was the most intenseHalloween costume.
I can't really think of anyothers off the top of my head.
Larissa and I were cheerleadersone year together, but Queen
Amidala was the most effort Iput into Homemade costume.
Or a purchase, oh purchase wealways went and it was like the
week of Halloween so it waswhatever was there.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
We should recreate that now we charge our banks you
, just you just keep talkingwait, they don't end up.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
You be her subject.
How about?
How about?

Speaker 3 (06:39):
you just tell your costume, okay.
Okay, so this dates back to agesix, oh, here we go Circa 1994.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Circa, the year of our Lord.
The year of our Lord.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I was a huge fan of Power Rangers, and so the Red
Ranger, Jason, was my favorite.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Jason.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Because Jason, his Megazord character, was a
Tyrannosaurus Rex.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I know that.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Justin Barter is watching this right now and he's
like, yeah man, amen brother.
So uh, jason, I was the redranger so ridiculous my brother
was always the green ranger.
And close your ears, larita.
As a six-year-old kimberly, thepink ranger was the love of my
life yeah, no, hey, a lot ofpeople thought that, a lot of
people thought so my brother thegreen ranger that, and so my
brother the Green Ranger Tommy,and me, the Red Ranger Jason, we

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would fight to the death forthe honor of Kimberly the Pink
Ranger, and we would rock thatcostume as often as possible,
probably long beyond Halloween.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
So I was part of that small group of kids where I
don't remember what age it was,but I was not allowed to watch
Power Rangers in our housebecause it was like, based on
like fighting yeah, you knowthat was not allowed in my house
, so I never.
So I like feel like I eitherwatch it at friend's house or
like secretly watched it andlike, but I knew all about
Kimberly everyone, everyone knewabout Kimberly the pink Power

(08:01):
Ranger.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, we know right, so my best costume ever.
So one side of this story is atsome point in my life I became
Brett Favre on Halloween andthen, whenever that happened,
like every Halloween for therest of my life, I was Brett
Favre.
Yeah, I had like a Packershelmet and then, as I got bigger

(08:24):
, I different farve jerseys andI feel like when I was a kid I
had, like it was the expectation, I had the cleats and like the
yellow pants and the whole thingand then, like by the time I
was like 13, it was just ajersey yes, and I was just
walking, just walking around ina jersey yeah exactly no, but
the best one I can rememberprobably grade school my mom
like homemade a spider-mancostume where stop it?

Speaker 3 (08:45):
yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:45):
yeah, so I had.
I can't remember if the sweaterwas like blue or red, but she
basically like sewed on thislike black spider web, and then
from a craft store, my mom'slike super crafty, like her
whole life and she like somehowbuilt or glued together this
like giant spider across thechest.
That's insane.
And then put that on the but.
I remember when, like ourhalloween party started's insane
and then put that on the but.
I remember when, like ourhalloween party started, or

(09:07):
whatever, at school, we put onour costumes and like within
like five seconds, one kid waslike oh, that's so cool.
Reached out, grabbed the spiderand like pulled it off the the
sweater.
Wow.
No, we fixed it later fortrick-or-treat, but I but I
remember being like my heartjust broke.
Oh, I remember being stunned.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
It's traumatic, that's terrible.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Best costume ever.
Shout out to my mom because shedoes listen to the podcast.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Spider-Man costume.
Probably second grade.
That's awesome, I remember it.
Obviously my mom always fixedthe costumes that we inevitably
broke because we would wear waybeyond.
We were never allowed to wearit before.
Before thanksgiving, beforehalloween yeah because
inevitably one of the many likeaccessories would break.

(09:53):
Because yeah, last year aren'tcheap last year.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
As far as like kid stories goes like, I think last
year was the first time thatlike well, mackenzie went
trick-or-treating yeah but shecouldn't uh walk yet.
Uh, caleb last year I feel likeit was the first time he like
got it yeah same he was up atthe door saying
trick-or-treating like he reallyloved it so, man, you really
gotta limit the candy like it'slike for a parent might be the
worst.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Like the worst go ahead seriously I just wanted to
tell a sad story so, oh okay,everyone go for it bro.
So last weekend we took Jacksonup to New Hampshire.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Oh, this is a sad story and they're Storyland.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
It's a children's amusement park up there.
They have this thing during theweekends in Halloween season
called Happy Hauntings, yeah,and so it's just a day where
characters are out, they'regiving candy, and so we were
hyping this up to jackson and hewas fully dressed and we got

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his costume early in his woodycostume from toy story oh nice
he loves woody and we were upthere and it was closed.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
We arrived at the park.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
We arrived at the park the day that our dated
tickets were for monday, uh, andit was closed because of the
rain.
But even the website said openrain or shine, but that only
meant the summer season and notduring their.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
This is like classic Clark Griswold vacation.
That's what I said.
You roll up and it's closed.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I made Loretta watch the YouTube clip of them
arriving at Wally World.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
We're standing in the parking lot and he's like man.
Do I feel like Clark Griswold,right?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
now.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
And then I'm like.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
I don't know what you're talking about.
He's like let me show you I'mlike.
This is not the time.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
That's amazing.
Before your time, we saved theday.
We saved the day, of course.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
We found a water park and went to an aquarium that
was very overpriced, veryoverpriced yeah, yeah we spent
more money doing that, but itwas a good day, but you know it
wasn't a short trip, three hoursup and we were like what?

Speaker 3 (11:46):
but then like anyway, like two days later jackson was
like remember when we went tothe story land and it was closed
.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
That was really disappointing yeah, I know I'm
sorry, I was disappointed.
Yeah, we tried to save the dayhoney man.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
All right in the line of halloween, though.
So outside of costumes, let'sget real biggest fears.
Who wants to go first?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
nico first this time all right, I think um growing up
.
I think my fear has changed, uh, over the course of my life.
But I think growing up.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
So, yeah, you start with the dark.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, and then, well, I think, I think my biggest
fear growing up during myteenage years high school years,
college years was failure orletting people down, yeah, not
being good, good enough, andthat's nothing that was like
projected on me.
I think I just reallyinternalized criticism a lot or
constructive criticism and sothat was my biggest fear growing

(12:34):
up.
But I think now as a parent andI think I'm growing in that that
other area a lot, but I thinknow, as a parent, my fear has
shifted now to wanting to makesure that jackson, our son, is
safe and so wanting to doeverything I can to protect him
and the fear of not being ableto protect him that's good.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, yours is about others.
I'm immediately self-conscious,like my fear is about myself.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah, my fear is definitely about myself, so
we'll take this away from fromnate.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
You go ahead all right, I have two, one is like
practical and one is existential.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
So I'm going to think of an existential no, no, no Go
ahead.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
One is just like as far as handy stuff around the
house goes.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Electrical work oh yeah.
It's just a practical fear.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Like there's been a couple of times where I have
tried to do something that Iprobably shouldn't do, and
there's just that.
Is this going to be the lasttime that I touch anything?
So it's silly, but I think thelast time I tried to install
something.
I swear I went down and shut allthe breakers off.

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I swear I did that.
And then I didn't have one ofthose wire testers that would
tell you that it's still live.
So anyways, I gave myself alittle shock and also something
like popped and like a mini firestarted.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
And like.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
So I was just like not only did I shock myself, but
I like probably almost burnedmy house down, like, yeah, yeah.
So it's just a practical fear,the other one.
So I am the passage of time,the passage of time.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Both of you have deep fears.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Well, I just like, because it revolves.
There's just so much to it Likeright now I'm thinking about
the growing up with my kids andtrying to hang on to every
single moment, the passage oftime.
I think, about my parents.
I just think about in terms ofmyself or my wife.

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You think about what are youdoing, accomplishing what is
your legacy?
Will time pass and will youhave mattered how you lived your
life?
Will that have mattered toother people?
And there's that old clichelike you can get more of
anything in the world yeah,except for time your time is

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finite and you don't know howmuch you have of it.
Yeah, so I think that I I trynot to think about that often,
but it's just, I know becauseit's so.
It's usually so sad my, my wife, gets on me because, like I'll
be thinking you, for example,the vacation that we just took.
You know, I'm like okay, if wecan afford like that kind of
vacation, like once every 10years.

(15:14):
Well, right now we're, you know, 36.
So 30 more years we'll be 66.
So basically we only have gotlike three life epic vacations.
And she's just like, why don'tyou just put us in the grave
already?
She's like, why does your brainthink like that?
You're talking the end gamealready.
Anyways, the passages of time,that freaks me out.
I don't know if it motivates meto do better or it just like it

(15:37):
also goes right along with thisbook.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
When we started reading this book, I was like
holy cow.
Your text last night was likelaser beam of conviction through
my soul yes, so that was thetext.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Those are mine electrical work and the passage
of time.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Well, lorita's gonna bring this one home.
Let's hear it.
I am terrified.
Personally, I'm.
I just don't like ride likeroller coasters okay I don't
like heights.
Why are are you saying this isnews to you?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
No no.
When we were dating, she wouldgo on roller coasters.
I went on one roller coasterand then it's like she reeled me
in, she's like I don't need todo it anymore.
No, it's true.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
I just don't like and this is the only way I can
define it I don't like thefeeling of my stomach leaving my
stomach area.
I can't stand it.
Uh, we went on a roller coasterroller coaster with jackson at
disney, at the slinky dog.
That was enough for you.
That was, I gave myself aheadache because I clenched my

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teeth, so the whole rideinstantly got off and I was like
I'm dizzy and jackson in theback was like of course yeah, so
that that can be your newroller coaster partner yeah um,
and then I think we I psychmyself out a lot because we
listen to a lot of like truecrime podcasts and documentaries

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and stuff, yeah.
So I always just have it kind offeeds my irrational fears of
like someone's going to breakinto our house and steal my son,
and so when we had like acamera in jackson's room, I'd
like wake up in the middle ofnights, make sure he's still
there.
So I think I just have likeirrational fears of someone
coming into my house or anynoise I hear, because our house
is so creaky and like everythingis so loud um so isn't that

(17:21):
wild how like it just feels likeold houses they're alive.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, yes, literally nothing could happen and it's
just like pop, something's gotto like.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
We're sitting on Friday at Bible study with all
the young adults and somethingis popping in the kitchen and
Elizabeth's like that soundedlike someone and I was like can
you?

Speaker 3 (17:39):
not, yeah, don't say that please.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
And.
I was like I have to live herebut it makes so many noises.
But I do.
I love listening to true crimeand I love that probably doesn't
help.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
No, I know.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
You're fueling the fear we watched a thing on
Netflix Friday night orsomething, and I just spent the
whole night thinking, okay, well, I'm going to get murdered
tonight, someone's going to comein.
I'm like I need to stopwatching these, but I can't
watch a horror movie to save mylife.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Heather is a huge fan of svu oh my gosh, yes like,
like massive fan.
Anytime I come home from yam ormass brass or anything, I come
home and she's watching tv.
It's svu 100 and I'm alwayslike why?
What draws you into this?
And she's like strong femalelead.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
It's got me it's so true, and there's like 35
seasons, so odds are you're notgonna catch a repeat.
I think I watched as much asthey had on hulu at a couple
years ago yeah probably duringcovid.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
It was just a binge like in the background of stuff
because you can also put it onand do other things yeah I'm a
huge svu fan but it also feedsmy irrational fears going all
the way back to your rollercoasters like I love roller
coasters.
What I cannot do, what I cannotdo like the teacups spinning
rides.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
You put me on the teacups I'll throw up.
I can go on a teacup any day.
Put me on it.
Put me on every teacup.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Off, man, if I'm on a ride, like with other children
who are trying to spin thatthing.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
I'm like yeah, and I like hold that thing, we're not
spinning anymore yeah, I coulddo a teacup any day.
I hate roller coasters logflumes, anything that makes my
stomach move Anything with adrop sensation Any drop Can't do
it.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Well, if you have a list of your I was going to say
favorite fears, no, your worstfear.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
What's your fave fear ?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Leave us a comment.
This is on YouTube.
You can also find some of ourshorts on Instagram and Facebook
.
We put those vertical shortsout there, so drop us a comment.
Let us know what your worstfears are or if you had favorite
costumes growing up.
Just before we bring in CaptainMegan for our interview, we're
just going to talk reallyquickly about Halloween candy.
You want to do two or three.

(19:39):
I had originally written three,but what do you?

Speaker 4 (19:42):
think let's do three quick yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
And then one terrible candy, okay, and we're doing
like draft style, right?
So if someone selects it, it'sgone, and I promise not to say
Loretta Potatoes Heintzman onthe podcast well, my son now
says it.
Yes, he does okay, so, loretta,how about you go first?
How?

Speaker 4 (20:02):
awful would that be if I said potatoes, just kidding
everyone, that's what she handsout at halloween just full
potatoes in many forms.
Okay, my first pick reese'spumpkins oh, that was my first
too wow, that's very specificthe peanut butter to chocolate
ratio in a in any of thespecialties, like the the trees.

(20:23):
Allison Heinsman gets itbecause she texts me every time
the pumpkins come out.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, reese's pumpkins.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
You have to try the pumpkin or the tree or any of
the holiday ones, or thefootball ones.
All right, that's my number one.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
So we're going like if you were trick or treating
today what you want in your bagthe most.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Yes, all right.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
All right, reese's pumpkins, yes, okay, all right.
All right, reese's Pumpkins offthe board.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, go ahead, nate, I'm going with a I don't know,
an underrated.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
X Factor.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
The Caramel Apple Pops.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Those lollipops with the caramel and the sour apple.
They're only around this time,so that's why I consider it a
Halloween candy.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Can you say that again?
This is really specific.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
What is it?
The caramel apple pops?
I don't even know who makesthem.
They're green.
They have a green wrapper.
They're drenched in caramelaround the side.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's your number one, number one.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
That's your number one.
That's worse than potatoes.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
How many of those could you eat?

Speaker 3 (21:15):
before you get sick.
I don't know Well she took mynumber one.
My number, but I just thinkthat that's such a.
It's a specialty candy?

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, that only shows up around all the definitions.
All right, matt, what's yournumber one?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Oh well, I'm really boring, I'm just going to go
with a Kit Kat.
Oh, I reach into my bag.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I want a Kit Kat it's not like too much.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
So I don't know.
I've never had this, neverasked a doctor about this, never
checked it out.
I feel like I have some sort ofallergy to chocolate.
Really, I could eat half of aKit Kat and I feel full.
I'm like stuffed.
What I wish I had that problem.
No, I just like.
Chocolate has never been mything, that's amazing.
I just can't eat very much ofit.

(22:01):
You, that's amazing, I justcan't eat very much of it.
You're a medical marvel.
No, I'm not?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
No, really I'm not.
So that means, how much TacoBell do I?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
eat to make up not to eat chocolate.
No.
So, Kit Kat, if I reach in mybag, I'll find a little.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Kit Kat.
I love a good Kit Kat yeahthat's me.
All right, my number two wouldbe Twix.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
The little twix yeah, I love them.
Just the bite size, that's good.
I love the cookie underneathgood texture.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yes, yeah, got a lot of flavors.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'm for that it's a good twix, solid yep.
Um, I'm gonna go with sourpatch kids yeah it's on my list.
Yeah, a lot of sugar and a lotof sour okay, I'm a lot of sour.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Um okay, where do I go here next?
So so can I say just Reese'sCups regular.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's still on the board.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, okay, because you can reach into a bag and
there's pumpkins and Reese'sCups.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, but I'm going like I want the full size.
Yeah, I want the full size cupson these.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
The mini ones are not good.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
I don't want any specialty.
I don't want the whitechocolate.
I don't want your pumpkins orwhatever they are.
I just want my normal cups.
I peel the wrapper off.
Everyone eats them a particularway.
There's just something aboutthem.
The chocolate to peanut buttertexture is magical.
You have to try the specialtyones.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Bring me one.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Okay, done the guy who doesn't eat chocolate, is
never walking into a store andpurchasing these things on my
own Actively doing it If youdrop it in my Halloween bag
maybe.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
I will experience it.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I'm going to bring you one and just be like oh I'm
so full.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Maybe I did bring back some Swiss chocolate you
did and pass it out to somepeople around the third floor I
had some.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
I walked in the other day and I was amazed it was
still there, I'm like thatPotter, grindelwald, grindelwald
.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Thank you, sorry.
We walked into this chocolatierand the place was insane.
It was like the most fanciestchocolates I've ever seen,
packaged immaculately.
That's something where I alwaysstruggle to spend money in
those places, because it looksamazing, it tastes amazing, it's

(24:06):
also gone in like four seconds.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, like, yeah, so it's rough, but so good though,
okay, all right, I have a wholebunch more on my list because,
just in case, someone took stuff, but I have to go with
something fruity and notchocolate okay nerds clusters
yeah those are so good, that'sgood, such a downfall for me
yeah, good job, thank you, I'mgonna go.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Sorry peanut allergy kids, I'm gonna go with peanut
m&ms.
They are the top tier m&ms.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
They're better than regular m&ms we've already had
peanut butter discussion on theshow.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah, but the peanut butter is so processed and
rhesus that is is true.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
It's not really.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
But peanut M&M's like that's a legit peanut.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
So your top three are whatever that pop is you?
Don't know what I'm talkingabout.
I know I can see it, but I willgladly throw it away.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Oh my goodness, caramel apple pops, caramel
apple pops, sour Patch Kids andpeanut.
M&m's.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Wow, all right my.
Wow, all right, my mom.
Second reference to Mama Luntoday.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
She loves M&M's.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Bring her on the show .
She got Matthew, Mark and Mason.
We were her.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
M&M's, triple M&M's, yeah, m&m's.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Okay, my last one.
We were M&M's.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
We were her M&M's.
All right, my last one.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Number three Smarties .
Really, yeah, I love Smarties,I do, and that's not not
chocolate.
So I feel like I balanced mylist out, but so I don't know if
you eat them this way.
This is like but I will untwirlthe ends yes, all of them at
once just make that noise and doit just like just plow those

(25:38):
Smarties like you're opening aPez and just like but then like,
if you like, don't chew them,but like literally let the sugar
just kind of dissolve into yourmouth.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
I feel like my jaw, you know when.
Like you smile after you'veeaten sugar.
And like your jaw, like seizeshave you ever?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
had that.
I feel like I feel thathappening right now.
Yeah, so let's recap your list.
Give me your three.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Reese's Pumpkins.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, twix, yep.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Nerds Clusters.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Okay, twix, yep.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Nerds Clusters.
Okay, yeah, I feel like I win,I'm I win, I win.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I might vote for yours.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
You're like before the draft is even over.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
You're like just letting you know I win.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
I have to win.
Okay, I've never won a draftyet.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Caramel Apple Pops.
I know you guys are out there.
Yeah, caramel Apple Pops.
I don't think you knew whereyour camera was when you pointed
out Wherever, you are SourPatch Kids and Peanut M&Ms.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Okay, and then I've got Kit Kat.
Wait, yes, kit Kat, you weregoing to say a word and I'm just
like, is that the actual?
Thing, yeah, that just happened.
So Kit Kat Reese's PeanutButter Cups traditional, and
then Smarties was my sugar ofchoice.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Now, what's your worst?
Your least favorite candy ever,oh least favorite.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I don't know.
I'm looking at my.
I think the ones where Put meon the spot.
Do you want me to go?
No, no, I would say I have tobe in a certain mood to have an
airhead, and that mood is like aseven-year-old.
So airheads, what is?

Speaker 4 (27:07):
happening.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, you just chew that thing up and it starts to
get stuck in your gums and yourteeth.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
I love an airhead.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Oh my goodness, that thing airhead will be like
lodged in my molars for weeks.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
That is a pet peeve of mine.
I hate candy that sticks in myteeth, so I can't stand a
Butterfinger or things like that.
But probably my least favoriteis those Whoppers.
Those little right, that's whatthey're called those malt ball
things called little malt ballwhoppers.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
I will not eat those.
Well, uh, so we just recappedour list in the draft.
Uh, we are going to take aquick break here on the plugged
in podcast and coming back afterthe break we are going to
welcome captain megan labreckyay, we'll be right?
All right, here we go.

(27:59):
Welcome back.
This is part number two ofepisode 20 on the.
Plugged In Podcast.
We teased this earlier, but weare so thankful and blessed to
have Captain Megan Lebrecht fromthe Brockton Corps.
Yeah, which one's the applause?
No, not that one.
Megan Lebrek from the BrocktonCorps?
Yeah, oh wait, which one's theapplause?

Speaker 4 (28:19):
No.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Not that one, that was not on purpose.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Here wait, there's only four buttons.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
I like legitimately feel so bad, we may need to redo
that.
Okay, so first special guestwe've had on the show in a long
time, I know.
So we're thankful that you arehere today and we want to learn
about you and about yourministry and your core.
So we have some questions foryou.
I'm going to start with theeasy one who are you voting for

(28:48):
and why?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Oh my gosh, I'm just kidding.
Another applause.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
No, so you're a core officer in Brockton right now.
Can you tell us a little bitabout the community of Brockton
and kind of the role that theSalvation Army plays in the
community?

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, the community of Brockton is a multicultural
community.
There's a lot of different, sothere's Hispanics, a lot of them
from Ecuador, a lot of Haitiansand people from Cape Verde a
huge Cape Verdean population.
So we see that in our core,like our kids, there are some
people that some of the kids areHispanic, some of them are
Haitian, some of them are.
Cape Verdean and we see that inour core people to the families

(29:27):
the role we play.
Like we have a food pantry sowe get to serve the community.
We have a large Christmasministry with giving out gifts
and we have right now for ouryouth programs.
We have music ministry andSunday school and the kids love
it, like whenever they come theydon't want to leave, like the
other day I had a girl.
She was like Captain Megan, doyou like church or home more?

(29:49):
And I was like ooh you'retesting me, right?

Speaker 4 (29:52):
now like 50-50, yeah, exactly so they like to be
right now like 50-50.
Good answer, yeah exactly so.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
They like to be at church more.
They'll fight on who's going toget dropped off at home first.
Like I want to get last, Idon't want to go home first.
You have such a good group ofkids.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
They're so fun.
There's such a fun atmosphere,such a good atmosphere, family
atmosphere at Brockton.
We love going to Brockton, lovethe kids that come from
brockton to youth arts ministryand the ones that came to
conservatory over the summer,just the best, yeah, we love the
kids from brockton.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Absolutely well, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, in our first season of the podcast, we had
this reoccurring segment thatwould show up, uh, every single
week, and it was called sostinking proud of.
And so if we were to ask you,uh, captain megan, what is
something that you are sostinking?

Speaker 4 (30:37):
so formal what?

Speaker 3 (30:39):
are some that you're so proud of, about the brockton
core what I really am proud ofis the teens.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Um, so we have a music ministry and I am not
musically inclined, like I don'tdance, I don't sing, I don't
play an instrument, so we cameinto this and they had been
doing like singing company andstuff and stephan and I like he
does some things yeah but theteens they took on, like
teaching the little ones dance.
so like when we compete in starsearch, it's the teens teaching

(31:07):
the dance and it's like theytook the responsibility to take
it very serious and I am soproud of that because I'm like I
can't, you do not want to seewhat I will produce for everyone
.
No, I always tell my churchlike if you don't see me
clapping in a song, I can't singand clap.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Like I'm concentrating like no, not
happening.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Like the two things at the same time is too
complicated it is.
I can't dance for the life ofme and when I see people that
can dance, I'm like how did?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
you just remember that.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
To do that Like how did you?

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah, it's a gift.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
For your teens at the Corps.
Have you seen in your time?
We talked earlier in theepisode about the passage of
time was actually one of myfears, but for teens that you're
really proud of in the timethat you've how long have you
been court officer at brocktonum for?
Five years.
Five years, yeah, and forsalvation officers, that's a,
that's a decent stay yeah, so inthe teens that you've seen.

(32:05):
Have you seen spiritual growth?
Have you seen them, you know?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
grow in their faith yeah, definitely, like just one.
Like example is bianca going toconservatory?
Like her giving her testimonyon the last day?
Like it was just got us allchoked up because just seeing
them maturing and like beingable to talk about their faith
and also, just you know, some ofthem were talking at camp.
They're like one girl was like,oh, the kids would want to go

(32:31):
do bad things, but they neverasked me because they knew I
wasn't you know like they were.
People knew like their moralsand like they were being
examples and stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
So yeah, can you tell us?
You said, the christmasassistance is a big deal, you
said the food pantry as well.
Can you tell us a little bitabout that, like when?
When does that happen inbrockton?
How often?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
yeah, so we have our food pantry um once a week.
We used to have it two times aweek, but right now we don't
have staff for it.
And it grew a lot during COVIDbecause people were desperate
for food and we were just givingout the boxes, not taking names
and stuff, so it grew a lot, sowe have it once a week.
We serve about 80 people everyweek at the food pantry and a

(33:12):
lot of the families that havecome into our church are through
the food pantry.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
The kids that go to our youth programs, the kids
that attend on Sundays and theirfamilies are from our food
pantry, so that's something Imean.
We always have conversationsoff air about.
This is, how can the SalvationArmy better marry the social
ministries?
To a relationship with Jesus.
How have you seen that?
I mean, the people are coming.
Are they invited, are theyprayed for?
How does that kind of worktogether?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, so we always invite people.
We have a sign right where ourfood pantry line is like saying
worship on Sundays at that time.
So a lot of times people willask.
They'll say you know, I sawthat sign.
Are you guys a church?
Like what's that about?
Yeah, and then we um with ourkids youth programs.
We'll advertise it every yearand their parents really want
good environments for their kidsright so they're very

(34:03):
interested in that, and thenwhen they hear their children
being like, I love going there Ilove being there.
Can I go on sundays?
And then the parents are likewell, I kind of have to see what
this is about like why do they?
Like this much, and then theycome, and then they enjoy it too
.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
That's great, yeah, we have these talks all the time
just about how, how can we bemore intentionally evangelical?

Speaker 4 (34:25):
as a church.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah and not, and just kind of like stepping away
from that idea of sorry, I keephitting your mic.
I'm not used to the four aroundthe little table.
You know a lot of people willlook at the Salvation Army as
their social services and theirchurch as two separate things,
and I know that we talk a lotabout the mission, and the
mission is to preach the gospelof Jesus Christ and meet human
needs in his name withoutdiscrimination.

(34:47):
So how do you marry those two?
But that's great.
I'm really.
That's awesome to hear.
It's good for our soul.
It's awesome to hear.
It's good for our soul, it'sgood for my soul.
So thank you for what you'redoing.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
That's awesome, yeah, so you talked a little bit
about that.
You have been here for fiveyears, so just can you tell us a
little bit about now?
I know because I have had theprivilege of hearing pieces of
your testimony, but can you tellus a little bit about your
officership journey?

(35:17):
Like, how did you get here, howdid you maybe things that you
wrestled with to to get to thispoint, but a little bit about
your officership journey journeyas an officer, yeah, or like
you're yeah either either thejourney to get to officership or
your officership journey.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, so I didn't grow up in the Salvation Army.
I grew up not knowing anythingabout the Army at all.
My dad saw an ad in a newspaperabout a Salvation Army camp
that I was hiring.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
So interesting yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
So he liked working at camp when he was a teenager
and thought it would be a goodexperience for me.
And when I went to camp I, like, felt really loved and accepted
.
I was, you know, a teenager, soI struggled a lot with identity
and insecurities and I wasreally self-conscious and
feeling that community and thatlove and acceptance.
I was like, well, these peopleare different right, like

(36:08):
they're different than thepeople I go to school with,
they're different than thepeople I'm around, and I wanted
to be a Christian.
Like at that time I was like,oh, I really want to be a
Christian, but I didn't reallyknow what that meant.
And so it wasn't until, like Iwas in college, when I really
accepted Jesus and I surrenderedto Jesus, I was doing things I
wasn't really proud of and likehanging out with not good people

(36:28):
, and I was in college in Boston.
So you know, it's like partycity, like it's.
You know, every Friday nightthere's a frat party in every
corner.
So like that's how I was livingmy life.
And one day I was hungover andmy dad was like going to come
and visit and I was in thebathroom dorm like just broken.
Like I was like I don't likewho I am, I don't like what I'm
doing, like just really empty,and Jesus really spoke to me in

(36:52):
that moment.
And he, jesus, really spoke tome in that moment.
He said you know, I love you,like I want you, and so in that
moment I surrendered my life toGod and I decided to leave
college that I was going to andwent to a different college
where my friend Alberta sheworked with me at camp and I
wanted to be her roommatebecause, you know, I knew she
was a good Christian and she wasgoing to church and all this

(37:12):
stuff.
I wanted that for my life.
So I started attending a corps,I became a soldier and then
after that, my life explodedright Like I moved to Vancouver
to do a missionary program, toChicago.
I went to Venezuela.
Like, came back, worked inPennsylvania with the Salvation
Army and went to training in2017.
Wow, and like just seeing thejourney, you know, like how God

(37:33):
works everything out isincredible.
And just seeing the journey,how God works everything out.
It's incredible, and so Ibecame an officer in 2019,
commissioned to Brockton, whichwe love, and we love being there
, and God, through all of it,has always shown me his love and
his faithfulness.
All the times that I'vestruggled, all the times where
I'm doubting myself like, really, can I do this Really, but
God's always there and he's likeyou know, I got this, I can

(37:55):
work this out.
Whatever the struggle is,whatever the doubt is, and he's
really shown that for methroughout my journey,
especially in officership.
I mean my first year ofofficership, covid.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Right, Exactly I mean what a?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
start.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Right Like.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
You don't know anything and no one else knows
anything, right?
You don't have anyone to helpyou Talk about a level playing
field for everyone.
So that's my first year ofofficership, and then after that
it was just like you know, godjust continually showing us his
faithfulness and, just you know,through all different things in
our family.
Like our second year, my secondyear of officership, my mom died

(38:34):
.
My third year of officership,my husband's mom died and, you
know, my fourth.
Like just every year there wassomething and it was always God
being like.
You know, I'm here, I'm withyou and sometimes, as a pastor,
you're like oh, like I'm thepastor, I have to.
No, like our community wasalways there, like you're
struggling.
Okay, we're here with you,we're here supporting you.

(38:56):
I never felt like I had to act,like I had it together, Never
felt like I had to be perfect oranything, because I was
surrounded by so many peoplethat loved me.
And God did that right.
There are some communities youget to where there are
expectations, right.
Some communities where they'relike you have to be perfect and
do not mine.
And God knew I needed thatright.
He knew I needed to be inBrockton.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
He knew, and he's always showing me his
faithfulness and his love forall of it, all those things that
you listed off before gettingto Brockton.
It sounds like you said yes, somany times I mean, that's what
struck me when you listed offthe cities and different places.
I was just wondering has itbeen difficult for you to say
yes, or have you been?
You know, here am I Lord, sendme, because it sounds like those
have been a lot ofopportunities before you and you

(39:39):
just go.
You just go for it.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, I think there were a lot of times it was easy,
right, like I think once youexperience God's love and you
just realize like he like caresfor you so much when he's like
you have to do this thing, it'slike it can be easy.
Yeah, there's always fear anddoubt and like questions, like I
remember when we felt called toofficership and we were offered
a position in pennsylvania andwe were like well, what's the

(40:06):
pay?
Like I have a kid and like youknow like, and we need this, and
so there's things that are likein the back here mine.
But when we like pray about it,we're like yes, we got it.
You know, like, if God's askingme to do it, I'm going to do it
.
There might be that littlehesitation, but it's always easy
because I know that God's incontrol.
Right, like I know God caresfor me and loves me.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, it's an incredible testimony.
I don't think I knew all thosepieces.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
I knew some of them.
But that's awesome.
Seriously, you amaze me, girl.
I just we were talkingbeforehand just about how you
also and I know that in theweeds of it it probably doesn't
feel like it from the outsidelike you find balance with your
family and you know, care forthem and for you and stephan,
and so just we just celebrateyou and love you and love that
you're in a place, especially acore family, that you can just

(41:01):
be you, you can be real Cause.
I think that's the biggest liketestimony is showing people like
hey, I know I wear red on myshoulders, but I got struggles
too.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
And we're going to go through them together.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
So just the realness and that's yeah, it's awesome,
love it yeah, it's very muchappreciated, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Uh, before we get to our kind of rapid fire silly
questions, can you tell us alittle bit about your family?

Speaker 2 (41:25):
we've we've referenced them a couple times
now yeah, so my husband stefan,um, he's venezuelan american.
Really it's like there's beenpeople that go to him and he's
like, do you speak Spanish?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
and he's like yes, I speak Spanish, I'm from.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Venezuela, but yeah, so he's from Venezuela.
He likes to joke around andhave fun basketball and running
his favorite things.
I have two sons an 11 year old,no, 12 year old oh my, yeah,
he's 12 going on.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
17 yeah, he's 12 going on 17.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
He's mature for his age, for sure.
He's a 7th grader and he lovesbasketball, and he's in cross
country right now so athleticand then Max, who's 8 and in 3rd
grade and the biggest ham everthe life of every party he's
very impulsive and just saysanything on his mind like
there's no filter.

(42:15):
We're like Max.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
I love having a side conversation with Max.
Anytime I have the opportunity,I'm like Max, give it to me,
Cause he's so funny.
We need to have Max as a guest.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, I'm all for it.
Let's do it, let's do it Allright, all right, yeah, go for
it.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Okay.
So got some rapid fire for you,so just off the top of your
head.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
These are not meant to be well thought out, right,
if you?

Speaker 4 (42:44):
could travel back in time, what period would you go
to?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
I've always liked, like the 60s and 70s, you know,
like the peace movement andmusic like, I definitely love to
see the beatles and theirheight oh yeah, oh yeah, cool
for sure.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Good answer, good answer all right, mine's not
very serious at all, um, okayjust practicing that um, you're
from maine, right, and this istrue.
It has been a lifelong dream ofmine to see a moose in the wild
.
Oh and so my question is haveyou seen a moose and, if so,
where are they?
Because I can't find them I'veseen many moose.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
We actually we're starting to think they were
mythical.
Do they actually exist?

Speaker 2 (43:25):
my grandparents have a camp, a moose head lake, so
it's not named for the fact thatthere's a lot of okay, the lake
is shaped like a moose head.
It just happens to have a lotof moose there.
That lake is shaped like amoose head.
It just happens to have a lotof moose there.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
That's so interesting .

Speaker 2 (43:37):
So we used to go on drives at night to find moose.
Especially in the wintertime,they like to lick the salt off
the street.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
You need to drive around with salt in your car.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
I'm taking notes.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
But I will say, we've tried to get Stefan to see a
moose and we have not been ableto find one for him yet.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Maybe you and Stephan need to go on a quest, a moose
journey, a moose quest, a moosequest Pilgrimage.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Pilgrimage.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
That's awesome, that's so funny.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Okay, and then a more serious question what would you
say is something that the Lordhas been speaking over you in
this season, whether that'sseason of life, season of
ministry, what's?

Speaker 2 (44:17):
the Lord been confirming or saying to you.
I think recently he's beenreally just asking me because I
think, being in Brockton forfive years, it can feel
comfortable, right and just tolike get out of, like to not be
comfortable.
I guess Christians were notmeant to be comfortable, right,
we're not meant to be acceptedby the world, we're meant to,
like, kind of bring chaos rightIn the sense of like the
darkness, like we're supposed tobe light, and so I've been

(44:39):
really like just challenged withlike you know it's kind of easy
to get in that five yearsyou've been here being
comfortable, the flow of things,but really just like getting
out of my comfort zone, likewhat's next for Brockton?

Speaker 4 (44:51):
or what's next for my ministry.
Oh, that's so interesting.
I feel like sometimes we feellike comfort is the goal, but
just to shake that up and sayit's not the goal.
As Christians, our calling isto not live comfortable lives.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
That's great.
I have one serious one, andit's twofold.
So in terms of thinking ofwhat's next, or vision casting.
So if you were to look at theSalvation Army as an
organization, let's say let'slook 50 years down the line.
In one scenario, everything hasgone right according to God's
will.
What does that look like?

(45:28):
And then the flip side is 50years from now, what might be
your greatest fear for thesalvation army as an
organization.
Early in the episode we talkedabout greatest fears around
halloween time, and so it's justsomething that's been on my
mind.
But I know those are kind ofloaded, so don't feel any
pressure.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
But yeah, no.
Yeah, you said this was goingto be for us.
Are you trying to get me fired?

Speaker 1 (45:54):
here.
Well, we can edit whatever weneed to.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Now it's interesting because I was actually thinking
of that similar thing, justseeing where the army has come
in the last couple hundred yearsor so, and I was thinking about
the vision that William Boothhad for the Salvation Army,
right, like he wasn't reallyaiming to start a church, like
he was just aiming to preach,but then he saw other churches

(46:20):
weren't accepting these people,so he made a church for these
people.
But now we see a lot of like alot of core are getting smaller
and smaller and our you know,our ministries are getting
smaller and smaller but oursocial services are exploding,
yeah, and so it seems like we'regetting kind of away from that,
like not really bringing peopleinto the churches as much as

(46:42):
serving their human need, whichis part of the Army's mission.
But I think really what theArmy's vision should be for the
future is bringing those peoplein right.
Because those people still needa place right, they're still not
accepted in other corps.
Whenever we look at otherchurches, those people still
need a place, right like they'restill not accepted in other
core like whenever we look atother churches like we had a
friend next door neighbor whowas a pastor and I went to like

(47:02):
some of their events and it wasjust very different like than
the type of people that comeinto the salvation army.
It's like those people stillneed a home right, they still
need a church and we need to beworking in this vision of
bringing those people in andgiving them that place
Absolutely.
And that should be our goal.
Right, human need is veryimportant, but there's plenty of

(47:23):
nonprofit organizations thatare meeting those human needs
right, and ours is about thesoul, not necessarily the human
need.
We're serving the human need sowe can minister to these people
because of their soul.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I mean, I always look at it as spiritual need, is a
human need.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
The soul, the spiritual.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
To me that's always like.
It just is encompassed in bothparts of the mission.
Absolutely, but yeah, well,thank you for answering that.
I know I didn't put you on thespot there, but it's something
that I know.
The three of us we don't talkabout it too much on the podcast
, but it's something I feel likewe're always kind of talking
about and chatting about andkeeping that evangelical mission

(48:04):
in mind that those people needJesus and not just soup and soap
.
You know the salvation is themost important thing.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
That's what we just the other day talked about.
That and to preach the gospeland meet human needs.
There needs to be that and youcan't just do one.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
So, yeah, well, I just want to thank you again for
coming in and hearing yourstory has been awesome, and I
know we don't have a gazillionlisteners, but we do have a lot
of people that tune in and enjoythe show, so I know that
they're going to be inspired byyour story, like we've been
today.
So we just wanted to affirm thework that you're doing in

(48:46):
Brockton and before you came on,we were just talking about how
it's just so evident that youlove your people in Brockton.
And we don't have to see that byyour actions loving them.
You see that through the peoplethat you have loved, and so
it's it's powerful and it'simportant, and we just
appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Thank you.
So before you go, I don'tremember where we were, but I
know that we were going to prayfor you and but just thank you
again.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Yeah, let's pray.
Heavenly Father, I just thankyou so much that you invite us
into the practice of serving,preaching, being your hands and
feet.
Father, we say it all the time,we think it a lot you could do
this without us, and yet youchoose to use us and to desire

(49:38):
more of us, and to desire us tobe better than we would desire
for ourselves.
We just thank you, god, forchoosing us Today.
I just thank you so much forMegan.
I thank you for her life.
I thank you for her story andher testimony.
I thank you for the ways thatyou are still moving in her life

(49:59):
and still shaking up the thingsthat maybe society would tell
us are good, comfortable andnormal.
And you're still, lord, speakingvery clearly over her, and I
pray, lord, that you would justcontinue to raise up the volume
of your voice in her life and inher heart.
I pray, lord, for her family.
I pray for Stephan and for Ziaand for Max.

(50:21):
I thank you, lord, for thegifts that they are to her and
the gifts that they are to eachother as a family.
God, would you protect them.
Just put your hedge ofprotection around them, lord.
Just continue to bind themtogether, continue to help them
find balance in their ministryand in their family, for one
another, for their marriage, fortheir time with their kids.

(50:43):
Lord, just protect them fromanything that Satan would try to
distract them with Lord.
We just pray against that andwe pray that you would have your
way, lord, lord, that you wouldcontinue to be um just laying
the path before them.
Father, I thank you for just the, the heart that megan has, the
heart not only for people, butthe heart for you and the heart

(51:05):
to see others brought into thatkingdom.
And we want to do that.
We want to be a people thatbring people in, not just meet
them at the door and leave itthere, but we bring them in to
relationship with each other,relationship with you belonging,
and just a place where they canfeel your love radiating

(51:27):
between the people that worshiptogether.
So, lord, would you bless theBrockton community, the
beautiful fellowship that theyhave there, father, bless their
teens, bless their young adultsand their adults and their
families, just the beautifulministry that's happening there,
that is so, so focused on you,so focused on your word and your

(51:48):
teaching and your desire forthe community there.
So, father, just keep pouringout your blessings upon them.
Father, would you give themeyes to see those blessings that
are being heaped upon them?
And in these days where Kettlesis just around the corner and
the busyness of the season iscoming, lord, would you create

(52:10):
time where there seems to be notime?
Lord, would you give thempatience and peace.
And, lord, would you centertheir hearts to remember, and
all of our core officers heartsto remember, the reason for this
season, and that is you, jesus.
We want to focus our hearts onyou in the midst of the busy.
We want to remember and honorand celebrate you, jesus.

(52:34):
Thank you for Megan, thank youfor her family, thank you for
honesty and thank you for thetestimony you're still writing
in her life.
We lay her before your throne.
We thank you for her.
In your name, we pray Amen.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Amen, amen.
Well, I thank you again onemore time for coming on the show
and if you are listening in theBrockton area, check out the
Brockton Salvation Army forchurch on Sunday at 11 am, 11 am
Church every Sunday in Brockton.
Well, we're going to take onemore break here on the Plugged
In Podcast and, like we saidearlier, when we come back we're
going to start our kind of bookstudy that we're working

(53:09):
through.
So, if you want to get a copyof this book, this is the
Ruthless Elimination of Hurry byJohn Mark Comer, and we're
going to start to dive into thisnext.
Thank you again, megan, andwe'll be right back on the
Plugged In Podcast, episodenumber 20.

(53:31):
All right, welcome back.
Welcome back to the Plugged InPodcast, episode number 20.
We are in part three today.
Yeah, extra long episode, thetrifecta.
Ooh, maybe I don't know.
We just had a great interviewwith Captain Megan from Brockton
.
Yes, and now we're moving on toI don't know what to call this

(53:52):
segment.
We're not doing like a whatBook review?
Book review.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
I kind of liked your book report.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Book report.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
I felt like I was fifth grade again.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
But we haven't.
We're not doing a book reviewyet because we haven't read the
whole thing.
We want to read along.
Book club, book club, book club.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Yeah, I think that's what we're looking for.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Plugged in book club.
It's hard to say, yeah,something like that book club
sounds older than millennials,like you know we whoops.
But okay, so we've plugged thisa couple times.
But this is the ruthlesselimination of hurry by john
mark comer.
It is a bright orange hardcoverbook if you're looking to buy
it online.
Uh, but nate kind of.
The basis for this book is averse in matthew.
Can you read that?

Speaker 3 (54:34):
for us sure matthew 28 through 30 says this Come to
me all who are weary andburdened, and I will give you
rest.
Take my yoke upon you and learnfrom me, for I am gentle and
humble in heart, and you willfind rest for your souls, for my
yoke is easy and my burden islight.

(55:02):
Yeah, so we came at this from acouple different avenues.
Nate, you said there is like aBible study on Right Now Media.
Can you tell us about this?
It's six different sessionsthat deal with Sabbath
simplicity and solitude, silenceand just decluttering our lives
, slowing down and creatingspace to really just rest in who

(55:23):
God is and taking on that easyyoke that he has for us.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
So I think in preparation for this, you were
looking through some of this.
I don't my way of approachingit for right now is I did like
no outside research.
I didn't know who this guy was.
I'm not familiar with him.
He could I mean so just fromthe book.
My gathering is he is a formeryeah like mega church pastor.

(55:50):
Yeah, in part of the book hewas saying at least in his
church he said this was anembarrassing problem to even
tell people about.
But his church was growing by athousand people per year for
like seven years in a row.
So the prologue of this book iscalled Autobiography of an
Epidemic and he kind of goesthrough.

(56:10):
He introduces us to thisproblem of hurry and lack of
time as it pertains to his ownlife.
Now he goes on to say, like I'mnot you, I'm not your problems,
Right?
But every single person that Ihave talked to, whether it's
CEOs, whether it's restaurantworkers, whether it's stay at
home parents, everyone who hetalks to says, oh, I'm fine, I'm

(56:33):
just busy, I'm just really busy.
People fill their lives withstuff.
So I thought, if we go aroundthe table in this prologue
Autobiography of an Epidemic, Ijust highlighted a couple of
things.
I want to read a couple of themand then you guys can do the
same.
But some of this stuff justwent straight to my heart.

(56:53):
When he's describing himself,he says I'm introverted and
creative and, like mostmillennials, I get bored way too
easily.
Me and a lot of meetings is aterrible idea for all involved.
Amen.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
I mean read that one out loud.
I was like, oh man, this is.
I circled that one.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
So, as he was talking about what I said a couple
episodes ago, like where am Igoing, what's next?
What are?
When I got there, it turns outsome lessons are best learned
the hard way, it turns out Idon't actually want to be the
CEO, executive director of anonprofit, slash HR expert,

(57:29):
slash strategy guru, slashleader of leaders, et cetera,
and so he's kind of asking thisinternal question who am I
becoming?
And then why am I in such a rushto become somebody that I don't
even like?
I thought that was reallyinteresting, powerful to become
somebody that I don't even like.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Yeah, I thought that was really interesting, powerful
.
There's a section in therewhere he says that I am my worst
self when I'm hurried.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Because peace, perfect peace, perfect love,
perfect joy is incompatible witha hurried life where we're
always just trying to check thebox, always trying to get things
done because we haveresponsibilities, we have
pressures.
But he's his worst self.
He recognizes that when he'sembracing this hurried life
rather than slowing down andallowing himself to dwell in the
Lord.
I was really fascinated.
This book is incredible foranybody who's in any form of

(58:16):
ministry, because it resonatesso strongly he has this line in
here that just hit me that youcan be a success as a pastor and
you can be a complete failureas an apprentice of Jesus.
You can gain a church and loseyour entire soul.
And, uh, just little context.
He like he.
He formed this mega church inPortland, oregon that was

(58:37):
experiencing explosive growthevery single year.
Multi sites he was.
He was preaching six.
He was in six meetings a day.
Six Sunday services on Sunday.
And was an in-demand speaker,traveling around the world and,
in the eyes of the world, supersuccessful, in the eyes of the
church, fruitful ministry, andstill recognized this emptiness

(58:59):
because he had given so much ofhimself without actually leaning
into the grace of God.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
He kind of painted this picture of.
There was one time that he wasgoing home and he was just like
I don't even like Kung Fu moviesbut, I was going home and all I
wanted to do I was going toturn on this Kung Fu movie, sit
on the couch by himself and,like, his wife's not there, his
kids are not there.
He's coming home late at nightfrom ministry or whatever he's
doing, and he's, like I, havebeen so, like emotionally,

(59:25):
spiritually drained by thebusyness of my life that, like
the, the remaining time left isnot valuable time spent with
family, it's not time spent withGod.
He said.
Like you know life, what islife if it's not, uh, filled
with moments?
And if you're too busy to livethose moments, then what is
actually living?
I just found some of this stufffascinating.

(59:47):
Did you have a couple, loretta?

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Well, the one that I probably one of my first
highlights man, it's like it'shard to read, but I think that
we've all we can all say ifwe're honest, we've been, we've
experienced this before, butright into that, I think it's

(01:00:12):
right after that martial artscomment, yeah, yeah, he says,
but the thing is, I feel like aghost, half alive, half dead,
more numb than anything else,flat, one-dimensional,
emotionally.
I live with an undercurrent ofnon-stop anxiety that rarely
goes away and a tinge of sadness, but mostly I just feel blah,
spiritually empty, like I feellike, I feel like we've, I feel
like everyone has reached thatpoint right where it's just like

(01:00:34):
blah, I feel empty, I feel likea ghost.
But then where do I go fromthere?
Um, and I don't know, that justresonated with me.
Um, because then he talks abouthow he's like a type, a
personality, and like he wantsto get stuff done, but there's
just still not the fulfillmentthat he expected all of these

(01:00:55):
other things to bring him um.
The worldly things are there,but he's like I.
I've done nothing with my soul,yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
And it shows how our barometer of success is so
skewed.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
In prioritizing that which, yes, are those things
important.
Yeah, they're important, butare they the most important
thing?
And so it's getting us back tothe heart of what is most
important, and as he continuesto remind us in the book, that
love, joy and peace are at theheart of Christ's mission.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
That's the gospel.
And if we?

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
are so hurried, we are not going to experience
Christ in his fullness.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
He said that love is a painfully slow process and
it's just straight upincompatible with hurry.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I keep interchanging hurry and busy, but he uses
hurry a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
The word is hurry.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah, but what you just said, nateate.
So, as he wraps up the prologue, uh he's talking about.
I found this part interesting.
Um, he says here uh, talkingabout jesus, a man whose closest
friends all said he wasanointed with the oil of joy
more than any of his companions,and then his translation he was
the happiest person alive.
Most of us don't even think tolook to jesus for advice on how

(01:02:03):
to be happy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
How to be happy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Yeah, that was very interesting and then.
So he's talking about if you'reweary, if you're tired of life
as you know it, you might bemissing the whole point.
And then what you said, nate,the metrics for success of our
culture handed you might beskewed.
They said that said successmight turn out to look a lot
like failure.
So that's just kind of thebeginning, the prologue.

(01:02:25):
He kind of lays out hispersonal story a little bit.
You want to move forward to thenext chapter?

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
So the next chapter is called Hurry, the Great Enemy
of Spiritual Life, and then hereally starts to get into what
you were just saying, nate, interms of incompatibility with
love.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Yeah, yeah.
He's very clear here in thebeginning of this second section
that if there's a secret tohappiness, it's simple and it's
being present in the moment thatGod has given you.
The more present that we areright now, the more joy we tap
into, the more we see the peoplethat we're ministering to and
the more we recognize our need,like Jesus, to draw away to a

(01:03:02):
place of solitude and spend timewith him, and so being present
in the moment instead of openingup our calendar and looking six
, seven, eight, nine, 10 monthsdown the road, which we all do
or more, but being present inevery moment, recognizing what
God desires and wills for us inthat moment and wills for the
people that he's placed underour care our children, our

(01:03:23):
spouse, the places where we haveinfluence.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Yeah, I like where he says in chapter one they're not
really chapters, but they'rebroken into little sections the
first section.
But he says Rory, I'm combining.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Rory, don't Rory through this, rory.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Rory is the root problem underneath so many of
the symptoms of toxicity in ourworld, and I think he it might
be in the prologue where hetalks about when he is in that
state of hurry that he's likewhen he's emotionally unhealthy.
He is like toxic.
What does he say?

(01:03:59):
Toxic something over all thepeople around him, all his staff
, yeah, yeah like it's the hurtpeople, hurt people idea.
But just this idea that hurryis the root problem underneath
the many symptoms of toxicity inour world.
That just stuck out to me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
I have a couple quotes highlighted here.
In the first chapter, after theprologue, he's recapping kind
of the stuff he's saying, but hesays To restate love, joy and
peace kind of the stuff he'ssaying, but he says to restate
love, joy and peace are at theheart of all.
Jesus is trying to grow in thesoil of your life, and all three
are incompatible with hurry.
And then this is a quote fromCS Lewis to walk with Jesus is

(01:04:39):
to walk with a slow, unhurriedpace.
Hurry is the death of prayerand only impedes and spoils our
work.
It never advances it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Man deep stuff.
He makes it clear that it's notthese things that we do for God
are not bad.
These are things we have beencalled to do, but he labels it
as a pathological busyness whereit's.
We aren't able to separate thedistraction or or filter the
distraction out of our life thatallows us to truly be present

(01:05:11):
where we are.
Um.
So we give priority and we givea power to those things in our
life that really are someaningless and so trivial,
right Like.
We live in a world that issuper convenient, and this kind
of leads into the next chapter.
We live in a very convenientworld where things are are made
to be quick and efficient, andwe've replaced the time that

(01:05:31):
we've saved with things thatdon't matter and we've replaced
the rest that we can only findin Christ with those things that
are actually draining us of oursoul.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Yeah, in the next chapter.
So he kind of outlines thejourney of human history and how
time has just been sped up forus.
And I think the main questionhe asks in this second chapter
is, as life got more efficient,as it got more detailed,

(01:06:01):
schedule wise, nobody paused toask if this was good for our
souls, if good for the humansoul.
So he talks about, as he's kindof outlining, this first you
have the Roman sundial.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
And even you have poets writing oh God, confound
the man.
Because, we started to segmentthe day according to the sun.
Right, confound the man, becausewe started to segment the day
according to the sun, right.
Then he says in 1370 is thefirst public clock tower that's
put up in germany.
Later he talks about thomasedison in 1879.

(01:06:35):
So now light bulbs are invented, right?
So before you had humans wakeup with the sun, they go to
sleep, you know when the sundown.
Now you have the ability tostay up and be productive past
the setting of the sun and thenfast forward all the way to
2007,.
And he really talks about how,when history looks back, 2007

(01:06:57):
and the birth of the iPhone, andthen eventually, following it,
the explosion of social mediaand now present day, we're right
on the cusp of AI beingeverywhere, everything.
So he kind of really tracksthis course through human
history.
I found it very interesting,well.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
I was fascinated.
I know that I touch my phoneway too often, but it said in
here the average iPhone usertouches their phone over 2,600
times a day.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
And he said another study on millennials put the
number at twice that.
Twice that.
So you're talking about 5,000times a day.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
I mean, that's us, that is us, that is you and I.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Millennial shaming, yeah right right Millennial
shaming.
Yeah, right, right, no.
But then he said that studiesshowed that before all of this,
that people slept an average of11 hours a night Amen.
I don't know, in my life ifI've ever had 11, but because it

(01:07:59):
was a natural cycle to the moonand the sun, it's the Acadian
rhythm and it was just like.
That's the way it was 11 hours.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Well, he said, you know.
So humans woke up when theirbody was rested.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Yes, was ready.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Now we have told machines to wake us up when we
need to be woken up Exactly.
Because there's stuff to do.
There's stuff to do, a littleflip yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
So we're constantly running on fumes if we're not
making a priority to spend timein God's presence.
I'm reminded of a quote thatCommissioner Samuel Logan
Brangle once said.
Someone came to him and saidCommissioner Brangle, you're a
wonderful teacher on holiness.
You're obviously anointed bythe Lord, but what has been your

(01:08:41):
greatest temptation in ministry?

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
And Samuel.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Logan Brangle.
He paused, he thought aboutthis and he said you know, my
greatest temptation in ministryis to try to do something for
God without first spending timewith God are just all consuming
and the things we have to getdone just need to get done.
And people need us and ourbosses need us and we say to
ourselves you know, I'm justgoing to go on autopilot and get
it done yeah and think of howmany times we've trudged through
life running on fumes beforeresting in the presence of god

(01:09:19):
yeah, so at the end of thissecond chapter.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
So he hasn't really gotten to like the there's not
solution oriented like text, yethe's setting the stage, yeah
he's setting the stage.
We're learning the problem Right.
So we're not there yet in termsof the solution oriented
language, but he just says atthe very end, to summarize after
millennia of slow, gradualacceleration, in recent decades

(01:09:45):
the sheer velocity of ourculture has reached an
exponential fever pitch.
My question is simple what isall this distraction, addiction
and pace of life doing to oursouls?
Yeah, so, um nate, you said onright now media, there was just
kind of like some uh, I want tosay a way to like wrap this, but

(01:10:07):
kind of like some, there weresome questions, or maybe I'm
wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Maybe I'm wrong, no, you're right, you're right.
Yeah, no.
On Right Now Media, there is asupplement that goes along with
it, and the first sectionfocuses on Mary and Martha and
just the busyness where Jesus isjust saying like hey, slow down
, I'm here, be present with me.

(01:10:31):
And so the challenge is how canwe find intentional space to be
present with Christ in oureveryday?
Because the things have tohappen right.
The kids need to get changedand off to school, the
extracurricular activities theyhappen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
We're not, yeah, yeah , I was just saying this.
I'm thinking like he's layingout all these problems.
We're not going backwards.
No, we're not.
Yeah, yeah.
As you're saying this, I'mthinking like he's laying out
all these problems.
We're not going backwards.
No, we're not going back to thesundial.
We're not saying everyonebecome Amish and just eliminate
you know, cut everything out ofyour life.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
We're not saying that there is a simplicity that God
calls us to, but what we'retalking about is in the midst of
the chaos, how are you beingpresent with Christ?
How are you drawing rest andshalom that wholeness from him
and allowing joy and love andpeace, the things that Christ

(01:11:13):
perfectly embodied?
How is that spilling over intoyour everyday life?
Because you have found ways tonot just eliminate hurry or cut
a piece of hurry out of yourlife, but to prioritize that
which is most important, Ourconnection to the Father, and in
that it allows our connectionto others to really thrive.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Intentionality over mindlessness.
Yeah, how can we be moreintentional with our time?

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Well, if we were to take a real inventory of our day
, we would see just how much ofour time is wasted.
I mean the iPhone actuallyhelps us with this.
Well, if we were to take a realinventory of our day, we would
see just how much of our time iswasted.
Yeah, I mean, the iPhoneactually helps us with this in
giving us our weekly rundown ofhow many average hours we spend.
It's a shaming.
So thank you, Apple for shamingme today.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
It's a rough way to start a Sunday morning, yeah
it's interesting If you reallywere to add it up, the Instagram
scrolls, the TikTok scrolls,like it really adds up and did
you really gain anything?
Yeah, yeah, like the what didyou say?
The soil of your life, like, isthat really being fertilized
with something that's useful bythose scrolls?
I don't know if you found now,but even now, social media, the

(01:12:20):
capitalization of all of it.
I just find, even scrollingFacebook or Instagram, I'm not
even you know it's mostly adsnow, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you're not even seeing,mostly your friends or your
people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
You're getting fed uh ads sponsored ads, but also
groups, and like it's justmostly irrelevant.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
And he says somewhere in the end of that chapter too,
that how our attention span isdropping.
Like in 2000 our attention spanwas like 12 seconds.
Yeah, he says, now we're downto eight.
And you know what a goldfish iswhat?

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
nine we're losing to a goldfish love it love it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
I mean, that's just like it's again, that's just
like hurried life yeah and Ithink the great danger is that
being lulled into this spiritualoblivion, as he puts it.
Yeah, it's, it's we don't evenrecognize it sometimes.
You know, it's not this blatantrenouncing of our faith.
He says this is not usrenouncing our faith, it's we're
becoming so distracted andrushed and preoccupied that

(01:13:14):
we're okay with a mediocreversion of our faith.
That we'll keep Jesus at anarm's length and we'll just do
the bare minimum when it comesto tending to our spiritual life
, because everything else has totake priority and precedence.
But we look at the gospels andJesus calls us to an abundant
life.
So what does it mean to live anabundant life in Christ?
And I think that it's prettyobvious, as we're going to move

(01:13:36):
into these other sections, thatit's finding ways to find
solitude, to make space for that, to make space for simplicity
and to ask the Lord to just kindof reorient and reframe our
motivation each and every day.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Yeah, boom, awesome.
Well, we're off to a good startIf you want to join us, if
you're listening to the PluginPodcast, episode number 20 today
, and you want to join in on ourbook club.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Yeah, I like that we should get stickers.
Okay, did you do?
Book it when you were inelementary school and you got?

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
free pan pizza from Pizza Hut oh yeah, you read all
the books.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Can we get pizza after this?

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Yeah, and where I was from we got the pan pizza, but
I feel like we also got vouchersto St Louis Cardinals games
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Okay, now you're bragging.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
I'm just saying I hated the Cardinals Couldn't
wait to go Trying to get someoneinto the stadium.
So if you want to join us onthe PluggedIn Podcast, this is
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Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
I wish yeah right.

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today, all right?
Well, we're about to wrap hereon the PluggedIn Podcast.
I think this episode, like Isaid, is dropping on November
1st and, if I'm correct, thatmeans Yam is right around the
corner.
It's going to be our finalrehearsal of the fall season,
and then, as we're kind ofhurtling towards the month of
December, we have the Sounds ofChristmas coming up.

(01:14:57):
On Sunday, december 8th, that's6 o'clock at the Boston Kroc
Center Really looking forward toit.
Last year kind of exploded theexpectation of the program and
the number of performers, andwe'll be doing the same thing
this year, so it's going to be areally great time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
You look like you're saying something.
Can I do a quick plug for someyoung adult?

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
things coming up, of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
November 15th we have our next Young Adult Bible
Study at our house in SharonMassachusetts.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Just started that last on friday last week, uh,
last weekend a couple days ago,yeah, a beautiful study on the
book of acts.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
A great group always have good food and good
conversation.
So november 15th at seveno'clock at our house, is that?
And then, uh, november 23rd, uh, young adult friendsgiving.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
Everyone loves some good food and some good
fellowships high competitionsome potatoes relax everyone,
everyone relax, blanched covered, and Everyone loves some good
food and some good fellowshipand pie competition.
Some potatoes Relax everyone,everyone relax.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Blanched, covered and smothered.
You know what that means.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
All right, everyone.
Well, thank you for joining ustoday on the Plugged In Podcast.
Plugged In Podcast, the Pugcastis what I said.
Plugged In Podcast episodenumber 20.
Thank you for being here.
We will see you next time.
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