March 28, 2025 • 48 mins
When disaster strikes, who's already on the ground providing hot meals, hydration, and a comforting presence? Emily Mew, Director of Emergency Disaster Services for the Salvation Army in Massachusetts, takes us behind the scenes of emergency response in this compelling conversation.
Growing up watching her father serve as a firefighter and EMT, Emily developed a natural passion for helping others in crisis. Today, she orchestrates a network of mobile canteens strategically positioned across Massachusetts, ready to deploy at a moment's notice. These aren't just food trucks – they're command centers for hope when communities need it most.
The reality of disaster work isn't what most people imagine. As Emily reveals, emergencies don't politely wait for convenient timing. They strike "all the time, anytime, in the middle of the night, on holidays," requiring responders to maintain constant readiness. This unpredictability shapes everything from family dynamics to self-care practices, with Emily noting that after days of grabbing quick snacks on deployment, she often craves simple nutrition – "I just need a salad."
One of the most fascinating revelations is about "the bunker" in Framingham – an underground Cold War-era facility with curved entrance ramps designed to prevent gas penetration, massive steel doors, and even a morgue. This glimpse into disaster preparedness infrastructure highlights the decades of planning behind each emergency response.
For those inspired to help, Emily explains how volunteers can easily register through the Salvation Army's database to receive training and credentials. Whether you're interested in serving meals from a canteen or supporting behind the scenes, your contribution matters to communities facing their darkest hours.
Want to learn more about disaster response or get involved yourself? Visit the Salvation Army's website to discover how you can join Emily and her team in bringing practical help and emotional support when disaster strikes. Your hands could be the ones that make a difference when people need it most.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
all right, welcome back.
Episode number 24 plug-inpodcast.
We are in part two with ourinterview with emily mu,
director of emergency disasterservices for the salvation army
here in massachusetts.
Emily, thank you for stayingwith us.
We have a couple more questionsfor you.
How can people get involved?
So, whether it's volunteering,donating, supporting how can
(00:30):
people in Massachusetts who arelistening to this show, if they
want to get involved, what'stheir next step?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
So well they could reach out to me directly or just
go to our website, which Ishould have written down before
I came.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We'll put it on YouTube, great.
So we'll have your name.
I'll put your email address,your personal cell phone no, I'm
just kidding, I'll use it forwork, though.
No, but we can put yourinformation on the screen.
Yep, so if you're on Essay MassMusic on YouTube, we'll have
all this information for you.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So if you're listening and you do want to get
involved, check out theinformation on the screen.
Yeah, and then they can justsign up as a volunteer through
our database and then we wouldcontact them directly and get
them all credentialed and all ofthat.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Nice, great.
What's one thing that mostpeople don't realize about
disaster response work.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Hmm, oh Like how many cups of coffee.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Do you consume um, oh , oh, uh, like how?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
many cups of coffee do you consume?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
right?
Um, yeah, we do.
We make a lot of coffee and wedrink a lot of coffee.
Um, I mean, I think, I thinkanybody in disaster work
realizes this, but yeah, it doeshappen all the time, anytime
yeah in the middle of the nighton holidays.
Yeah, and it always happenswhen you're not wanting it to
happen, sure, um, yeah, I don'tknow if that's a little known
(01:53):
fact, but it is kind of thereality, yeah, yeah we have some
fun questions for you.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You guys, you guys want to go?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
yeah, all right, I'll do that.
Matt wrote this one, but it'swhy are you?
Blaming me.
No, I think it's funny I wasgiving you credits, okay?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
it says if you had lame matt, wrote it just so you
know it's preface.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
No, it says if you had to survive a zombie
apocalypse only one item from aneds canteen, what would it be?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
oh um I feel lame.
Thanks, no, I think's funny.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I think that's a funny question Bag of chips.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
One single bag of chips.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
To survive the zombie apocalypse Well.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I mean you said one item.
I mean, okay, I'll take the boxof chips.
Then, oh, there we go.
She had a literal response.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I guess I was thinking like way A coffee craft
Matt was thinking like a knife,like a weapon.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, I was thinking way more morbid, I'm going to
take like the Like Walking Deadstyle.
Yeah, I guess I didn't Like thechef's knife.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I wasn't really thinking about stabbing zombies.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
That's why.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I feel terrible.
We're staying away from them.
How do I sustain?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
myself.
How do I survive?
I love it.
One bag of chips.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
It's a Costco size bag.
It's a family size.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You got one Nate.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Sure, what's one song that always pumps you up before
heading into a big deployment.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh God, I wish you'd given me these questions ahead
of time.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Well, nate's other question for you is what is the
bunker?
Because he says he keeps.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
I've heard about this bunker and I just picture in my
mind this battleship like radarscreen and like like what he's
seen in movies like what you'rethinking like a doomsday bunker.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The situation room?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
yeah, exactly like you're launching nukes and stuff
yeah, what's the bunker allabout?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
the bunker is in framingham.
It is an underground buildingwait, is this confident?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
is this classified?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
oh no, not at all, not at all um no, it's like
built in during the cold war,was like one of I don't know how
many.
I don't know all the facts, butthere's only a couple across
the country and Massachusettshas one of them and if I had
known you were so interested init, like last year they had an
open house.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I would love to go visit, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh, I could make that happen.
Let's work this out Wow work tosound wow, personal tour.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Yeah, I mean I can't give the tour because I but
there's a morgue in the bunker.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh my gosh, this is getting better by the second you
go down.
You go down this ramp, um, andit curves.
It's like a.
You know it goes down this way,then curves this way, then
curves this way, and the reasonfor that is because, um, gas
can't take 90 degree turns soit's like a survival mechanism.
That's incredible and there'sthis like really huge steel door
(04:27):
that closes.
They don't close it, but it canbe closed.
It's pretty neat, that'sawesome.
I mean, I wouldn't want to workthere all the time because it's
underground and there's nowindows, but there are, you know
, plenty of people that work forme right up nate's alley yeah,
that are there, you know dailybat bat cave nate.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Nate often says when he he says when I retire, I want
to work for Disney so I canknow what the Disney underground
tunnels like under the MagicKingdom.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
I'm like okay buddy, you do what you want to do.
I go down YouTube, rabbit holesa lot on conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, a previous guest we had on the show was
Captain Megan Lebrecht fromBrockton but, she's from Maine
and Nate almost organized apersonal tour to see a moose.
It's like moose quest.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
We're onto something here.
He's in it for his ownendeavors here.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I have one more question for you, and then it's
going to lead into the nextsegment on our podcast.
But what is your go-to comfortfood after a long day responding
to a disaster?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I don't know Bed.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Bag of chips, bag of chips, bag of chips Probably.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Actually I do like chips.
Okay, the salt is comforting tome, but yeah, I mean something
healthy honestly is probablymore accurate because the next
segment of the podcast is notfor you, I know Well.
So I always feel unhealthy,like you go long periods of time
without eating, without eatinganything healthy.
(05:57):
You might have like tons ofgranola bars and snacks all day,
and then you know at the end ofthe day you're like, oh my God,
I feel so.
I just I need to eat a salad.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, Something of, like you know, vegetable,
something of nutrients.
That's what I was looking for.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I could probably count on both of my hands how
many times in my life I've saidthat phrase.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Oh, I can't.
I just really need a salad.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
No, it's taco salad.
I wish I could change my ways.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
All right.
Well, we are going to move intothe next segment of the podcast
, and we do want you to weigh in, Okay?
So even if you've never hadtaco before, you just have to
imagine what it tastes like.
But Nate Loretta, who's takingthis March fatness?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Nate's going to start it and I will provide context.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Yeah, yeah, do you want me to give a rundown of who
won from the first?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
round.
Yeah, yeah, we want that.
Okay, so in the first round.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
We want that yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
So we had four-fil-A number one seed versus Arby's
and unsurprisingly, Chick-fil-Adecimated that.
I think there was like twopeople.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You good with that Chick-fil-A.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
He's going to run everyone by you, because they
have salad at Chick-fil-A.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Director of Health Services.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Emily Meehls.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And Chick-fil-A.
Director of.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Health Services Emily .
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Meehl.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And then following up , that I've never eaten at
Arby's in my life.
Yeah, I have eaten atChick-fil-A.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Okay, chicken is good .
It is good.
And you said they have divinechicken because they're closed
on Sunday yeah they're closed onSunday.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Man, I mean something special about that.
All right, what's next?
And then Wendy's was facing offagainst Popeye's in our four
versus five matchup.
Wendy's moved on, but that wasa close one, right?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
That was 30 to 62%.
Oh, not as close as that.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
We had pretty decent voter turnout.
Yeah, around 50 votes,something like that.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, 50 votes consistently across, so it was
pretty cool, good.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Yep.
Then we had Taco Bell versusSubway Matt's love Taco Bell.
Taco Bell moved on to round two.
And then number two McDonald'sversus Burger King.
Mcdonald's moved on.
Pretty much the top four seedsall moved on in that region.
And then in the fast casualregion we had Chipotle versus
(08:08):
Matt's favorite Domino's Pizza.
Come on, domino's.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I heard this because I listened to the one right
before that you sent me and Iwas like what you choose?
Domino's over Chipotle.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
That has a refined palette, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I don't need to explain myself here on the
Plugin Podcast.
I'm a guy that just looks likehe enjoys some Domino's.
There used to be this joke.
So when I was getting mymaster's degree, I was doing
trombone performance and therewas this running joke that was
like so in Boston you could walkinto any Starbucks in the city
and you could find a stringquartet Like that's just like.
And they were just like.
(08:47):
Well, where do you got to go tofind a trombone quartet?
Dominoes, they were.
So that's my people.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Domino's was decimated 28 votes.
I was tempted.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Above.
So obviously I run my personalaccount and I was tempted to
vote twice with my mass musicaccount.
Sneaky.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Vote or front.
Vote or front no.
No, no, I agree he didn't.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I can confirm he did not.
I was tempted.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
But it was 82% to 18.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Move on.
Let's move on.
All right, all right.
And then the next one wasnumber four versus number five
in the fast casual Five Guysversus Jersey.
Mike's Five Guys moved on,despite the fact that it's super
expensive to go there, as wetalked about in the last podcast
, jersey.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Mike's is pretty great though.
I love Jersey Mike's I loveJersey Mike's and they make
their sandwiches.
So even I hate it when peoplemake sandwiches and that's their
job and it's like all over theplace.
Tomatoes are all on one sideand the meat is all on the other
side, or like Jersey Mike's.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
The middle is like a big, like a huge chunk of like
the meats there and like nothingon the end.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I feel that way about Chipotle, so we just talked
about Chipotle versus Domino's.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
This is his gripe.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Here we go, Just kidding.
Yeah, contents inside.
I feel like you.
I'm just like you're paid.
This is your job.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Side comment Nate's college, oh, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
My roommate in college.
He was fired from Chipotlebecause he couldn't make the
burritos fast enough.
Yeah, he got fired, but he usedto bring home like three every
day before he got fired.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
They look for speed over quality, and then the
people that do it fast rip it.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
You should have said this in the beginning.
Maybe you would have stand achance of winning.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'm just saying I would get the bowl I do too.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I never get the.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I feel really attacked right now.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
No, they don't need to do it right because I'll just
mix it all up.
No attacking.
I feel it In our.
They don't need to do it right,because I'll just mix it all up
.
Yeah, well, anyways, noattacking, no attacking.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
No I feel it, in our number three versus number six
matchup it was Raising Cane'sversus Shake Shack.
Raising Cane's advanced, okay.
And then number two versusnumber seven, panera versus
Panda Express.
Panera moved on in thatcategory as well.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Also very expensive, though.
Yes, panera just in thatcategory as well.
Also very expensive, though.
Yes, it makes me mad when I goin and I'm like what you get?
Like five bites of a salad andit's like $7.99 for the half.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
It's so expensive, it's so expensive.
But it is good, that's theproblem.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
You have to pay it's crazy that you have to pay so
much for fresh food.
It's insane, anyways.
And then we move into thesit-down restaurant category.
This was close.
Number one seed CheesecakeFactory almost got upset by
Applebee's.
What.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
It was 51% to 49%.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You were the one that pumped that up, though he did.
Nate said during college youwent to Applebee's like three
times a week which is insane,which is terrifying.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Actually, and Applebee's like three times a
week, which is insane, which isterrifying actually, and I've
gone like three times in thepast five years, ten years, okay
, All right, cheesecake is sodiversified.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's almost too much.
Yeah, you can get like anythingyou want there.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, you sit down and you're, just like I'm
overwhelmed.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yes, I agree.
I mean like the menu is like abook, well, book, well you're in
, like a palace while you'reeating there too.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Palace the setting of it is crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Applebee's, I think, wins by name.
Everybody's heard of Applebee's.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I don't know if everybody knows Cheesecake
Factory.
Well, and I think too, whatwe're dealing with is a lot of
the kids from the division thatare on Instagram.
What are they going to?
They're going to Applebee's.
Younger demographic.
Elizabeth actually wrote to me.
She's like this isn't fair.
She's like we need a teenagerbracket next year and a refined
palette bracket next year Arefined palette, and I was like
(12:22):
girl, but it was so funny, I waslike talk to Nate.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Well, she also had problems with the seeding and I
said you know what?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Chat GPT created the seeds for me DBC Elizabeth.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Okay, she's come on the show.
Bring her on.
Okay, that was a close one.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
In the number four versus number five matchup we
had Outback versus Chili's andChili's as the number five upset
Outback.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I love Outback.
That was such a shame for me.
Yeah, I love Outback as well.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
And then in number three versus number six we did
Texas Roadhouse versus numbersix, red Lobster, texas
Roadhouse versus number six, redLobster, texas Roadhouse
advanced, red Lobster barely gota vote, three votes.
Three votes.
It wasn't me, was it?
No, I don't think it was you.
No, it wasn't you.
Okay, and then in probably theit wasn't me, was it the upset
of the first round?
Number two, olive Garden, gottaken down by number seven,
(13:11):
buffalo Wild Wings.
Yeah, buffalo Wild Wings,that's what.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I'm talking about Long live wings.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I mean Buffalo Wild Wings is just subpar wings.
No, it's not subpar wings.
I reject that.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Really bad service.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
The service is unbelievably bad.
Every Buffalo Wild Wings I haveever been to.
The service is unbelievably bad, not subpar wings.
Get out, let's hang it up rightnow.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I'm not passionate about this episode.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I'm not passionate about this at all.
Um, okay.
And then in the dessert andcoffee category uh, duncan
number one seed sounsurprisingly advanced over
crumble cookie.
Uh, pretty handedly, um, but wedid have an upset number five,
dairy queen, upset number four,cinnabon, and Cinnabon, how do
you say?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
it.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Cinnabon.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Thank you.
How is it spelled?
That's how a normal person saysit.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
This is how Nate says it.
No, how is it spelled, itdoesn't matter.
It's a picture of a cinnamonbun.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
It's a play on the word.
Okay, just keep going.
What's the bun?
It's elevated.
It's a play on the word.
Just keep going.
What's the bun?
Bon, what does?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
that even mean it's not a bon, it's elevated.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It's refined.
Where's the bon coming from?
Cinnamon Bon?
I don't know.
See, if you don't have answers,you can't claim I'm going to
research this.
I'll come back next week.
Pause Are you Dunkin', dunkin'or Starbucks?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
If it really came down to it If it came down to it
, Duncan.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Okay, I'm worried.
So we said at the end of thisbracket, whatever the ultimate
winner is we're going to have onthe show for that episode.
We're all like a little bitworried.
It's going to be Duncan.
Yeah, I know, because I'd say,like most episodes would usually
have Duncan in front of us.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Anyway, I really wanted Domino's, he really
wanted a pizza.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
We're also in the Dunkin', capital of the world, I
know.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But the reason I would go with Dunkin' just
because it's easier and cheaperas opposed to Starbucks, which
is super super expensive andthey're like super snobby about
the ways they talk about theircoffees, although that
commercial, but the coffee'sbetter.
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
If you're anything like my wife, and she has the
most complicated order in theworld and then she gets mad at
me it's complicated because it'sless carbs.
Well, she gets mad at me that Ican't verbalize it properly.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I need like an education in coffee.
Wait, what are you getting?
Coffee doesn't have carbs.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
No, but like, if you get like a macchiato, I don't
want milk, I want like cream orlike, if there's.
I want like sugar free,whatever so it is complicated.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So he's right.
But also.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I'm also a moron.
When I go to the drive-thru andeverything in my mind is scared
, sorry.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Nate will say every order backwards.
He will say I would like acoffee with ice in it, a medium
with cream.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
I'm like you could have said that so much more
efficiently horrible.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I'm trying to get all the major bullet points nine
times out of ten.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Right, I'm just gonna like lean over and order for
myself, but he gets, he gets allworked up.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I do I will say the efficiency of Dunkin.
When I go through thedrive-thru I'm just like large
hot cream only and like I'm 45seconds later I'm driving away.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
They're like drive up .
Speaker 1 (16:08):
They're like drive up that always stuns me when I go
back to the Midwest and I try toorder coffee at a Dunkin' I'm
like large hot cream only, andthey're like how's your day?
Going.
Good morning I'm like no, Justgive me my coffee please.
Transaction, Transaction I usedto be this nice I'm not this
nice anymore.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I've changed.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Nice, it's like just naked.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
We'll go to the Northeast Right, right, exactly.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Sorry, I didn't mean to get into it.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yes, you did it's fine.
Keep going, though.
All right.
What was the next one Number?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
three versus number six.
Another upset Ben and Jerry'snumber six took down number
three.
Krispy Kreme.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That's considered an upset.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
That's an upset what?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I mean I wouldn't consider it.
My dad is upset, mr KrispyKreme himself he texted me no
way.
No he did Actually.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
my mom texted for him .
Okay, fair, fair hey we'relistening to the podcast Dad
loves Krispy Kreme.
It was like a real parentsmoment.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
It's amazing, it's amazing Sorry, we couldn't make
him proud.
No, I tried, I tried.
And then Starbucks number twoseed took down number seven,
rita's, which opens in threedays Wait what is Rita's?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Italian ice, italian ice.
That's kind of what I said.
It's so good, it's not my jam.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Maybe it is a-.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That looks somewhat familiar, yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
It's not like there's .
I think there's only one in thearea and it's in Walpole, and
we drove right over there oncewe learned that it was there
which took us to our Sweet 16.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
So this is the voting of.
The Sweet 16 happened yesterday, right, Yep?
So we had back to the fast foodbracket Number one.
Chick-fil-a beat Wendy's Numberfour.
It is now moving on to theElite Eight.
Okay, Taco Bell took downMcDonald's.
Thank you Good.
So now Taco.
Bell Thank you listeners.
I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Taco Bell will now be facing off against Chick-fil-A
to see who wins the fast food bya margin of one vote.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Oh, so is me.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Did you vote twice and only one person voted, can
we validate.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Do we need a?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
recount no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Just put that poison in my body.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
And so yeah, the final match, or the region
champion, will be decidedbetween Chick-fil-A and Taco
Bell.
Oh, interesting the fast casualregion Chipotle, our number one
seed was knocked off by fiveguys by five no.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I disagree with that.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Me too, me too.
Me too All right go ahead Eventhough your burritos are always
broken.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, but I would rather have my broken burrito
than spend like $25 on a juniorbacon cheeseburger with fries.
Yes, yes, yeah, that is fair.
No thanks, yep.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
And then Raising Cane's lost to Panera, so number
two Panera moves on to face offagainst Five Guys.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Okay, the winner of that region.
Yeah, I was surprised by that,yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
In the sit-down region.
Number one.
Cheesecake Factory took downChili's, so Cheesecake Factory
moves on to Elite.
Eight.
Mm-hmm moves on to lead eight.
Texas Roadhouse took down.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Buffalo Again, but that was also by one vote.
These are close.
These are really close, okay.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Texas Roadhouse number three took down Buffalo
Wild Wings, so now it's aCheesecake Factory Texas.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Roadhouse showdown.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Sorry Matt, I pour a heart.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Domino's and then yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Which leads us to an epic, epic, sweet, sorry,
whatever matchup this is Wow,you really left us hanging there
, Sorry, sorry.
So Duncan moved on againstDairy Queen, unsurprisingly, and
Starbucks moved on against BenJerry's, which leads us to a
Duncan versus Starbucks showdownfor the battle of the coffee
slash dessert region.
You're still going, duncan.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Well, so no, probably not.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Because I think ease, I would just grab a coffee at
Dunkin'.
But if I'm going to judgequality, Starbucks is way higher
than Dunkin'.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You can vote however you want.
Yeah, but the voting doesn'thave to be on quality, because
you could be voting on E's.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
If listeners out there.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
If you want to vote for Dunkin', you can't.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
But also you could vote on the app, and the Duncan
app is superior, in my mind, toany other app.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
But have you used the Starbucks app?
Because it's all so easy.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I refuse to use the Starbucks app, because they
don't understand your orders, myLanta, you sound pretty scarred
Speaker 4 (20:11):
by this.
What order did you Keep?
Speaker 5 (20:12):
going, that's it, so we have those matchups.
We keep going, keep going,that's that's it.
So we have those matchups.
Uh, we now have.
We're down to what?
The elite eight.
So we have eight left and, uh,all the voting now will
determine who is the regionwinner.
Uh, to take us to the finalfour.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Awesome yeah, crazy thanks, nate.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, good job, um emily, the.
The point of the plugged inpodcast is we try to keep people
plugged into what's happeningin the massachusetts division.
Uh, we have found that overtime, listenership has grown far
past our division.
I think I can't remember theexact stats, but something like
305 cities, 24 countries overthe two years that we've been
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doing this.
There are people that listen tothe show and so, just going
beyond kind of where we are athere, we just wanted to say
first, thank you for coming onthe show, thanks for letting the
listeners know kind of whatyou're doing to help advance the
mission of the Salvation Army.
But when we do have specialguests on the show, they're here
for a reason and we want toaffirm the work that you're
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doing and we want to, not thatyou know, our opinions are
matter or above anyone else's,but we want people to see what
you're doing, that it matters,that you're caring for people
and that this work is reallyimportant.
So we appreciate you and weappreciate the position you're
in and the work that you'redoing and putting people in the
right place.
So I just wanted to say hear itfrom us.
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Thank you for who you are andfor what you do and, if it's
okay with you, before you go, wejust want to pray for you and
the work that you do, and thenthat'll be a wrap.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, absolutely Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Thank you for saying yes on this rainy Monday day it
is really rainy.
All right, let's pray.
Lord, we just thank you for thework that you give us to do.
We thank you for the passionsof our hearts.
We thank you, lord,specifically for Emily and just
hearing a little bit about herstory and the legacy that lives
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on within her of helping andserving people.
We thank you for her dad and wethank you, lord, for just the
bravery that it takes to besomeone who runs into danger
after someone they don't know.
Lord, we just thank you forthat example and we thank you,
lord, for that selflessness.
I thank you for Emily and Ithank you that she just
continues to model this life ofserving others, getting phone
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calls in the car with her family, rearranging schedules, kind of
just living on the edge of herseat here.
Lord, I just thank you for thepassion of her heart.
I thank you for her story.
I thank you for the ways thatyou are working in her life.
I thank you for her children.
Lord, I just pray that you wouldbless the work of her hands.
Lord, I pray that you wouldbless her efforts to do good and
to meet the needs of herbrothers and sisters in her
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sphere of influence.
I pray, lord, that you wouldgive her rest.
I pray, lord, that you wouldgive her energy.
I pray you'd give her visionand, lord, I just pray that
you'd continually surround herwith a community that is going
to uplift her, that's going toencourage her and speak life
into her and lift her up onthose days where she is feeling
tired and heavy, as she does forso many others.
Lord, just bless her and keepher, and we just thank you, god,
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that for this season, for thistime, she is in this position
and we know, lord, that you areusing her for your good and we
just thank you for that.
In your name, we pray Amen.
Amen.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Thank you so much.
That was really powerful, thankyou.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Thank you, thank you Seriously.
It's a lot of these unsung heromoments, so thank you for what
you do is really just beautifulto to hear and to be enlightened
and hopefully people that hearwill learn something new about
not only you but the work thatyou are a part of doing.
So, thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Anything else you want to say?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
No, I don't think so All right.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Once again, it's been great to have Emily Mew on the
show.
We'll have her information onthe screen if you're watching on
the SA Mass Music YouTubechannel.
We're going to take a quickbreak on the Plugged In Podcast
when we come back.
If you're still with us, we'relooking at John chapter 13
through 17.
This is Jesus's farewellmessage as we're moving into the
Easter season.
We're looking at the finalthings that Jesus says to his
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disciples and, by extension, toall of us.
So, if you're still with usafter the break, we're looking
at John chapter 13 through 17.
Thanks, emily.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Thank you All right, we'll be welcome back.
Episode number 24 of thePlugged In Podcast.
It's been a packed episodealready, I know, but closing out
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today's segment, we're going tostart a new study of the Bible
as we lead into the Easterseason.
We're going to talk aboutJesus's farewell message.
Is that what it's called,farewell message?
Yeah, okay.
So before we get into this, Ithink it'd be really important.
There's a trailer on Right NowMedia If you're interested in
this study, and it's availableto all the Corps officers in
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Massachusetts Division.
We're going to play the trailer, so audio will be on the audio
podcast.
The video we'll put on YouTube,so let's go ahead and watch
that right now you Get alone.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Figure out a place where no one can get to you and
just sit and meditate on thesetruths, because there's just no
way you're going to get it.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I mean, the reason why I chose to teach John 14 to
17 is I'm just going, god.
If there's one passage I reallywant to know before I die, it's
this one.
Because you know, we think likeknowing something is like at
school or in seminary, wherethey tell you something and then
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you say, yeah, I know that andI can get it right on a test.
No, it's about some miraclehappening where the core of who
you are, god strengthens you,and now you know these truths.
So I'm begging you, don't justbreeze through these passages.
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Figure out a place where youcan go, where no one can get to
you.
It's just you and God, and youimagine being in that upper room
and Jesus saying these words toyou.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Nate's going to lead us into this, but this is Jesus'
final message to his disciples,right before he's going to be
executed, and he knows it'scoming yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Francis.
He starts with this question.
He said if you knew that youonly had a few hours left to
live, wouldn't you make surethat your words mattered?
That's what Jesus is doing herein John chapter 13 through 17.
He's giving us his heart beforehe goes to the cross.
And this beautiful setting.
This is one verse prior, or onechapter prior to the start of
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the actual study.
It's kind of like the preambleto setting the stage for what
the disciples are going toexperience in this last week
leading up to Jesus going to thecross.
But we read there in Johnchapter 13, as it starts out
Before the Passover celebration,jesus knew that his hour had
come to leave the world andreturn to the.
Father Jesus knew that his hourhad come to leave the world and
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return to the father.
He had loved his disciplesduring his ministry on earth and
now he loved them to the veryend the very end.
It's a beautiful, that's abeautiful passage there, right
Jesus.
Here's Jesus in the room withhis disciples, who he knows
intimately because he had justspent over three years together
with them, in close quarters,doing everything across Galilee,
right and knowing exactlywhat's to come, knowing that
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Judas had already agreed tobetray him, knowing that Peter
was going to deny him threetimes, knowing that after Jesus
went to the cross, knowing thathis disciples would be holed up
and scared and scattered and inhiding.
Jesus knows all these thingsthat are coming, and yet he
loves his disciples to the veryend.
He does not allow any of thatto affect his intimacy and this
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connection, this communion thathe shares with them.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
If you watch the video, the Francis Chan does the
one thing that really stuck outto me.
So when he talks about like.
There's multiple times in thevideo where he says, like don't
just gloss over this verse.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yeah, when.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Jesus says that he loves you.
Stop, pause and try to evenunderstand what that means.
And he's talking about like theGod, the power that created the
heavens and the earth and theuniverse and spoke earth into
existence, the fact that hewould even have anything to do
with you, let alone love youLike Jesus loved, like can you,
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can you like feel that weight?
He talks about that in thevideo and I just like I found
that very powerful and it kindof led into what happens next.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, no, like it's it's.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
It's incredible to wrap our minds around this piece
of the power, of theincarnation right, which makes.
Jesus, so much greater than anyother God that God would
willingly enter into communitywith you and have personal
intimacy with you, the God ofheaven and earth right, who is
so far beyond and aboveeverything that we experience.
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And yet he experienced it, helived it, he shared it and
because of that he knows uscompletely.
And so Jesus embodies thishumility, he embodies this love,
he embodies this servantapproach to his disciples.
And it says after the meal wasover and they're reclining right
, he grabs a towel, he grabs abasin and he gets dirty.
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He gets down in the dirt rightand he starts to wash their feet
.
Yeah.
And we can really just read thatand be like, okay, jesus washed
his disciples feet, but like tounderstand that the God, who
existed before we did, loved usenough to wash this stinky,
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dirty part of our bodies todemonstrate just how he's
willing to just surrender andhumble himself for you out of
love and out of sacrifice and ofdevotion.
Um, can we wrap our mindsaround that?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I, I, uh, I feel like .
So that in verse six I feellike, uh, simon peter, when
jesus came to simon peter, petersaid to him lord, are you going
to wash my feet?
I can can feel the like.
Are you for real right now?
And Jesus' reply.
This is amazing.
You don't understand now what Iam doing, but someday you will,
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yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
I think I read something probably years ago but
just how quickly we can glossover even just like the loving
God loving us, jesus loving us,how quickly we can gloss over
even just like the you know,loving god, loving us, jesus
loving us, how quickly we cangloss over these things.
But like, if you think aboutthe feet of the disciples, you
know what I mean.
Not only did they only wearsandals, they walked on like
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dirt roads.
They probably stepped in likecamel turds, right like like,
think about the stuff that wason their feet.
They were probably well, theywere.
They were probably very like,very, very dirty.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
There's no way they bathed like as often, not as
regular.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
No, and this would have been, like you know, one of
the dirtiest parts is the feetbecause it just touches the
ground.
And I remember at camp a coupleof summers ago I think it was
Kristen Kristen's day formorning disco and she brought
Sydney up at that time.
I can see this picture in myhead, but was talking about
washing the disciples' feet andshe sat on the stage and Kristen
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, as she was giving her message,she washed Sydney's feet and
again, you can't compare ourfeet today to the scenario of
Jesus' day, of, of you know,jesus's day, but the visual of
someone bending down, loweringthemselves to do an act of love,
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like an act of service forsomeone else, um, it's just a
beautiful visual and I alwayssee it as I'm reading this and
thinking about man, the contextof the like, their stanky feet
well, and rewind back to what wesaid earlier this is his final
hour right so whatever he isdoing must be of the ultimate
importance and he says um, Ican't find it now.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Um, I have given you an example to follow yeah, since
I your lord and teacher havewashed your feet.
You ought to wash each other'sfeet.
I have given you an example tofollow.
Do as I have done to you.
That goes right back into.
I mean, we just wrapped up thebook.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Study that we've done , but living like Jesus lived,
and just think of the culturalimplications of this.
Like this is a.
This is an act reserved forslaves.
Like that's how it was in thesedays.
Only slaves wash the feet ofhouse guests.
And so Jesus, using somethingthat they don't understand, but
someday later they will hesubmits himself fully to the
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Father's will.
But also he submits himself inhumble, loving service to his
disciples, and it's interestinghow the ones who are enslaved by
sin and bondage his disciples.
he became a slave to set themfree, and so it's this beautiful
like yeah it's at play and youcan easily miss it if you're not
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looking deep into the text andunderstanding the context and
everything that's going on inthat room.
And so from that theytransition and Jesus talks about
the significance of the breadand the wine in this last meal
that they share together.
Right, and this Greek word forthis fellowship and this
intimacy that's created calledkoinonia, right, and it's not
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just hanging out, but it's inthe breaking of bread, in the
drinking of the wine, in thisholy, sacred moment, God's
presence is there.
And so when he says do this inremembrance of me, when you
gather and you break breadtogether and you celebrate the
sacrifice that I gave, you'regoing to be remembering that you
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were dead, you were lost inyour sin, but I came to become
the bread of life.
My blood was poured out andshed for you out of my great
love that comes from the Father.
And so Jesus is providing thesevisual representations that
point to the goodness and to theheart and to the nature of God,
and he says pass this on, dothis in remembrance of me, pass
this on to the next generation.
May this not just be a trivialmoment, but may this be
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something that informs andshapes the way that you live out
your witness and your testimonyand share my salvation with the
world.
And so what we see?
There's a lot of deep, deepthings at play here, and it
speaks back again to the pointthat the disciples didn't fully
understand in that moment whatwas happening.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Well, I think it's funny because we often, like,
can easily rag on the disciplesfor not getting it.
But my goodness, how many timeshave I needed to be knocked
upside the head to get something?
But I think even with Judas hegets such a bad rap, and I mean
rightly so.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
He only betrayed you, he only betrayed him.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
But I love how Francis puts it when he's
talking about like he betrayedhim for these 30 pieces of
silver and then after herealizes the magnitude of what
he's done, that silver isworthless but it was worth
everything for the betrayal.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
But then after the fact, it was interesting thing
that Francis Chan said so inchapters 14 through 17.
So this is mostly jesusspeaking right and the the
promises that jesus makes andthe things that he said, that
he's saying are so mind-blowingand kind of I mean, for me
difficult to comprehend.
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Yeah, um, when you come backback and look at Judas's
betrayal in context Judas leftthe room, yeah, before.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Any of it, he was able to hear any of that yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
It wasn't for him.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
And I mean just kind of like I don't know the magnet,
I don't know if I've everreally read these chapters in
this frame of mind.
Yeah, in this frame of mind,yeah, so just kind of, what the
author is allowing me to do iskind of like really, pause,
really go slow.
Yeah, look at these what Jesusis saying, verse by verse.
But do you want to move us intochapter 14?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, Well, I just wanted to point back to like the
emotional highs, right.
Like they go from like notunderstanding what's happening
with the washing of the feet tobreaking bread together, sharing
a meal, and the fellowship andthe intimacy, and then, all of a
sudden, like Jesus drops hisbombshell, that like one of you
is going to betray me.
And the disciples are lookingaround and they're like what are
you talking?
about we spend every wakingmoment with you.
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We've given up our lives foryou.
And they're looking at eachother and like how could this be
?
How could this be?
Imagine, like, like how thatcuts like a knife to, to hear
those words coming from the Lordthat you've, like, dedicated
your life to serve and then kindof moving into the the
uncertainty surrounding that, asas Judas abruptly leaves the
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room and it's like emotions arehigh.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Emotions are high.
Yeah, I mean it says in thescripture.
I mean the fact that theydidn't suspect Judas.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Like when Jesus says I tell you the truth, one of you
will betray me.
The disciples looked at eachother wondering whom he could
mean.
Right, the disciple Jesus lovedwas sitting next to Jesus at
the table.
I think that's John Simon Petermotioned to him to ask who's he
talking about?
So I mean, I'm just imaginingthe commotion in the room, but
that's just like telling that,after spending three, three and
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a half years together in closequarters, no one was like yeah,
judas has been a little shady.
I mean, it might be that guy.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Like no, there was no hint of suspicion.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
That's really interesting too, yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
And so Jesus takes.
When you move into chapter 14,which we're the next session
picks up on, jesus takes all ofthis emotion and he says like
this this is happening, butdon't let your hearts be
troubled.
Don't let your hearts betroubled.
And so Jesus immediately calmstheir fears.
He calms their uncertainty bysaying don't let your hearts be
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troubled.
And so Jesus immediately calmstheir fears.
He calms their uncertainty bysaying don't let your hearts be
troubled.
You believe in God.
Believe also in me.
My father's house has manyrooms.
If that were not so, would Ihave told you that I'm going
there to prepare a place for you.
And if I go and prepare a placefor you, I will come back and
take you to be with me, that youalso may be where I am.
You know the way to the placewhere I am going.
And so Jesus reminds them, likeeverything that you have
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experienced up to this point waspreparation, and it was
pointing to the fact that,because you are in relationship
with me and I am in relationshipwith the father, there is a
place for you in my kingdom.
And so, because you know theway and because you've been
prepared, you're going to have arole in preparing this kingdom,
or how this kingdom is revealedin the world.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I like the realism of the moment.
I mean, so you just said, andyou know the way to where I'm
going.
And Thomas pipes in no, wedon't, lord, we have no idea
where you're going.
So how can we know the way?
And then you get this bombshellverse of all time.
One of the all timers.
Jesus told him I am the way,the truth and the life.
No one can come to the Fatherexcept through me.
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If you had really known me, youwould know who my Father is
From now on.
You do know him and have seenhim.
And then Philip, again withthis realism Lord, show us the
father and that'll be enough.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, we'll be satisfied.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
And Jesus says have I been with you all this time,
philip, and yet you still don'tknow who I am.
Right, anyone who has seen mehas seen the father.
And in the Bible study in thevideo again, francis, kind of
all.
They know like we.
We kind of look at it throughthe lens of, like you know, we
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see God, we see Jesus, we we seethe picture, yeah.
In their perspective is like ifyou touch the Ark of the
covenant, you die.
If you touch the mountain thatMoses is on, you die.
If you walk into the wrong, theHoly of Holies like you die.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
You can't see of god.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, so they're like no, I haven't seen the father.
And jesus says if you've seenme, yeah, right and again.
It's that like if you'reassociating god with this
enormous amount of of power andperfection and and just uh, hard
to comprehend yes and thensomeone says no, you have seen
him.
Yeah, you have seen him, andjust yeah and just the
gentleness that I mean.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
We just continually read about how jesus's response
to the disciples' questions overand over again.
He's so gentle, you know what Imean.
I just think I think often inmy life and how you know, I can
be so easily bothered by youknow let's call it incompetence,
right Like they're just likeasking these questions, they've
seen these miracles, they'veseen him do these things, and
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that they still have thesequestions and it would just be
like like I want to shake himand be like have you seen what
I've done?
You know what I mean.
But jesus is so gentle in hisresponse and he's so like it's
me.
I am like you've seen this,you've I've done this.
It isn't.
Is that how you?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
met.
I mean, so, I'm like.
So this is just purelyspeculative, but like, how do
you imagine this scenario, thescene, like, like, how, like the
volume of his voice, the tone,um late, I'm getting a little
bit ahead.
Uh, we will talk about this inthe next uh podcast but, there
is one moment where hisdisciples uh say at last you are
speaking plainly and notfiguratively.
Now we understand that you knoweverything and there's no need
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to question, no more riddles.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Now we know who you are.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I mean once we get more into these chapters.
There is some stuff that I'mjust like I don't even I'm not
sure what that means.
There's a moment where Jesussays anyone who believes in me
will do the works that I havedone and greater.
And I think, like once we getinto this study, that's like.
What does that look like?
What's the vibe?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
of the room.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Well, I mean, like, am I capable of raising people
from the dead, like anyone whobelieves?
I mean, these are like and inthe, the study, francis says
like, don't try to explain theseverses away, yeah, yeah, I
think that's like really, it'sreally interesting.
Again, I just I don't know ifI've read these chapters before
with this kind of like weight tothe moment so we can easily
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gloss over.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
Well his response to Philip like it resonates with me
a hundred percent when he'slike don't you know me, philip?
even after I've been among youfor such a long time and I think
of just you know how immersedmy life has been, Praise God,
Like.
I was raised in the church, Ispent time in church, I spent
time in church, I spent timeworking at camp and my whole
life has been, you know, kind ofbuilt and shaped around my
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involvement in faith and and andchurch and and all those things
.
But how many times have I seenhim at work among me and still
had doubts?
or or written it off, or fearsor insecurities that I just
couldn't, for some reason in myhumanness, couldn't trust him
with't trust him with or justallow him to reign supremely in
that situation.
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And maybe God is saying to youtoday, even after you've been
around me for all this time, howdo you not see me?
And so the challenge for us,maybe, is God, I want to see you
and I want to trust you, and Iwant to know that your will and
your way is best, even when it'sdifficult to.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I may not understand it now, but someday I will, as
you said, yeah, well, I thinkwe're going to do one more
podcast segment and we're goingto wrap up this Bible study.
So, because today's the firstday that we've introduced it,
we'll put a pause there forright now.
But I want to encourage ourlisteners as we move into the
Easter season open your Bible,get into these verses.
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Yeah, if you have access toRight Now Media, I really
recommend watching the videos.
They also come with studyguides.
I said at the top like I liketo think cinematically, I like
to think like on the epic side.
Yeah, and these videos withFrancis Chan, I mean he's like
literally recording.
I mean it must be in like Utahor like the mountains.
He's like, on the precipice oflike of everything and nothing
(44:23):
at the same time, and uh, but Imean there's just like a uh.
I keep on using the word weightand heavy but, there is like a
seriousness and um, uh, I don'tknow sense of presence sense of
presence to what he's saying.
Uh, so can.
Before the next podcast drops,take your Bible, read John
chapter 13 through 17.
(44:45):
These are the moments leadingup to before he's ultimately
executed but then brought backto life.
Spoiler alert oh yeah, couldn'tget that out.
The best spoiler of alleternity, right?
Yeah, couldn't get that out.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
The best spoiler of all eternity.
Right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
So, yeah, if you need access to Right Now Media, you
can contact any of us here inthe Salvation Army Massachusetts
division.
There's a lot of people thatcan get you access to that, but
I encourage you to join us alongthis journey as we head towards
Easter.
Yeah, any final thoughts onthis section for today?
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Well, if you're doing that with a group, there's a
convenient discussion guidesthat come along with that and
printable things that you cansend, and so it really just
helps facilitate theconversation for you and your
group as you're studying thispart of John together.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Yeah, I just say, just as Matt has already alluded
, to, take your time in it, sitwith it, don't rush through it
Like you're reading a book, kindof just let each verse speak to
you, as the lord intends for itto, and see what, and see
what's revealed, see what, seewhat's revealed in your heart in
those moments, and I, I want tosay um I think what has helped
me allow yourself this the thespace to not understand
(45:54):
everything yeah I think that'shard.
It's hard, but it's true.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, allow yourself the grace, the space, the room
to read this and to get some ofit and maybe not get some of it.
I think that's part of thejourney and everyone's starting
from a different place andeveryone's starting a different
relationship with God and it'svery individual and so, anyways,
that's my overall encouragementtoday is to get into your word,
(46:19):
into the word.
So, all right, very good, good,the next podcast that drops,
we'll be wrapping up that andheading into Easter.
You guys have any finalthoughts for today's show?
It's a long show.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Long show, good show.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Good show.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
As we were recapping this and talking about Jesus
washing his disciples' feetserving people, I just thought,
wow, what a beautiful tie intosome of the stuff we heard from.
Emily and beautiful connectionabout others and serving others,
and you know what a practicalway to show God's love.
So show God's love this week insome new way.
But yeah, be kind to others.
(46:57):
Be kind to others.
I like that Spring's comingthis week in some new way.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
Um, but yeah, be kind to others.
Be kind to others.
Yeah, I like that Springscoming this week which means
well, this week we wererecording.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
By the time this drops, it'll be spring, which
means spring.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
Everyone youth councils is coming.
Mark your calendar.
May 16th to the 18th.
The theme is I don't know ifyou can see this on the camera
everything, everything.
We'll throw up the graphic.
Everything.
Love the Lord, your God, withall your heart, soul, mind and
strength, and love your neighboras yourself.
Uh, really looking forward tojust the planning that's coming
together for that Registrationwill be.
Probably, by the time thisvideo is out, registration will
(47:28):
already be ongoing.
Yeah, and so talk to your cop,core officer, um, and reach out
to us if you have any questions.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, I think the weekend after this podcast drops
will be the Yam Overnighter.
So on our next episode.
That's crazy.
We'll have a recap of how thatwent, but I have every
anticipation that it's going tobe a great weekend.
But yeah, yam, overnighter,youth Council, star Search.
It's all coming up, beautifulthings, all right, that's a wrap
(47:55):
for today.
On the Plugged In Podcast,episode number 24, with our
special guest, director ofdisaster services, emily Mew.
Uh, hopefully you're watchingon the essay mass music YouTube
channel or listening to whereveryou get your podcasts.
Uh, until next time, oh no.
Wow, why am I so bad at this?
All right, we will see you nexttime, you.
all right, welcome back.
Episode number 24 plug-inpodcast.
We are in part two with ourinterview with emily mu,
director of emergency disasterservices for the salvation army
here in massachusetts.
Emily, thank you for stayingwith us.
We have a couple more questionsfor you.
How can people get involved?
So, whether it's volunteering,donating, supporting how can
(00:30):
people in Massachusetts who arelistening to this show, if they
want to get involved, what'stheir next step?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
So well they could reach out to me directly or just
go to our website, which Ishould have written down before
I came.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We'll put it on YouTube, great.
So we'll have your name.
I'll put your email address,your personal cell phone no, I'm
just kidding, I'll use it forwork, though.
No, but we can put yourinformation on the screen.
Yep, so if you're on Essay MassMusic on YouTube, we'll have
all this information for you.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So if you're listening and you do want to get
involved, check out theinformation on the screen.
Yeah, and then they can justsign up as a volunteer through
our database and then we wouldcontact them directly and get
them all credentialed and all ofthat.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Nice, great.
What's one thing that mostpeople don't realize about
disaster response work.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Hmm, oh Like how many cups of coffee.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Do you consume um, oh , oh, uh, like how?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
many cups of coffee do you consume?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
right?
Um, yeah, we do.
We make a lot of coffee and wedrink a lot of coffee.
Um, I mean, I think, I thinkanybody in disaster work
realizes this, but yeah, it doeshappen all the time, anytime
yeah in the middle of the nighton holidays.
Yeah, and it always happenswhen you're not wanting it to
happen, sure, um, yeah, I don'tknow if that's a little known
(01:53):
fact, but it is kind of thereality, yeah, yeah we have some
fun questions for you.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You guys, you guys want to go?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
yeah, all right, I'll do that.
Matt wrote this one, but it'swhy are you?
Blaming me.
No, I think it's funny I wasgiving you credits, okay?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
it says if you had lame matt, wrote it just so you
know it's preface.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
No, it says if you had to survive a zombie
apocalypse only one item from aneds canteen, what would it be?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
oh um I feel lame.
Thanks, no, I think's funny.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I think that's a funny question Bag of chips.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
One single bag of chips.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
To survive the zombie apocalypse Well.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I mean you said one item.
I mean, okay, I'll take the boxof chips.
Then, oh, there we go.
She had a literal response.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I guess I was thinking like way A coffee craft
Matt was thinking like a knife,like a weapon.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, I was thinking way more morbid, I'm going to
take like the Like Walking Deadstyle.
Yeah, I guess I didn't Like thechef's knife.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I wasn't really thinking about stabbing zombies.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
That's why.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I feel terrible.
We're staying away from them.
How do I sustain?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
myself.
How do I survive?
I love it.
One bag of chips.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
It's a Costco size bag.
It's a family size.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You got one Nate.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Sure, what's one song that always pumps you up before
heading into a big deployment.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh God, I wish you'd given me these questions ahead
of time.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Well, nate's other question for you is what is the
bunker?
Because he says he keeps.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
I've heard about this bunker and I just picture in my
mind this battleship like radarscreen and like like what he's
seen in movies like what you'rethinking like a doomsday bunker.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The situation room?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
yeah, exactly like you're launching nukes and stuff
yeah, what's the bunker allabout?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
the bunker is in framingham.
It is an underground buildingwait, is this confident?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
is this classified?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
oh no, not at all, not at all um no, it's like
built in during the cold war,was like one of I don't know how
many.
I don't know all the facts, butthere's only a couple across
the country and Massachusettshas one of them and if I had
known you were so interested init, like last year they had an
open house.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I would love to go visit, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh, I could make that happen.
Let's work this out Wow work tosound wow, personal tour.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Yeah, I mean I can't give the tour because I but
there's a morgue in the bunker.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh my gosh, this is getting better by the second you
go down.
You go down this ramp, um, andit curves.
It's like a.
You know it goes down this way,then curves this way, then
curves this way, and the reasonfor that is because, um, gas
can't take 90 degree turns soit's like a survival mechanism.
That's incredible and there'sthis like really huge steel door
(04:27):
that closes.
They don't close it, but it canbe closed.
It's pretty neat, that'sawesome.
I mean, I wouldn't want to workthere all the time because it's
underground and there's nowindows, but there are, you know
, plenty of people that work forme right up nate's alley yeah,
that are there, you know dailybat bat cave nate.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Nate often says when he he says when I retire, I want
to work for Disney so I canknow what the Disney underground
tunnels like under the MagicKingdom.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
I'm like okay buddy, you do what you want to do.
I go down YouTube, rabbit holesa lot on conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, a previous guest we had on the show was
Captain Megan Lebrecht fromBrockton but, she's from Maine
and Nate almost organized apersonal tour to see a moose.
It's like moose quest.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
We're onto something here.
He's in it for his ownendeavors here.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I have one more question for you, and then it's
going to lead into the nextsegment on our podcast.
But what is your go-to comfortfood after a long day responding
to a disaster?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I don't know Bed.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Bag of chips, bag of chips, bag of chips Probably.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Actually I do like chips.
Okay, the salt is comforting tome, but yeah, I mean something
healthy honestly is probablymore accurate because the next
segment of the podcast is notfor you, I know Well.
So I always feel unhealthy,like you go long periods of time
without eating, without eatinganything healthy.
(05:57):
You might have like tons ofgranola bars and snacks all day,
and then you know at the end ofthe day you're like, oh my God,
I feel so.
I just I need to eat a salad.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, Something of, like you know, vegetable,
something of nutrients.
That's what I was looking for.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I could probably count on both of my hands how
many times in my life I've saidthat phrase.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Oh, I can't.
I just really need a salad.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
No, it's taco salad.
I wish I could change my ways.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
All right.
Well, we are going to move intothe next segment of the podcast
, and we do want you to weigh in, Okay?
So even if you've never hadtaco before, you just have to
imagine what it tastes like.
But Nate Loretta, who's takingthis March fatness?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Nate's going to start it and I will provide context.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Yeah, yeah, do you want me to give a rundown of who
won from the first?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
round.
Yeah, yeah, we want that.
Okay, so in the first round.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
We want that yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
So we had four-fil-A number one seed versus Arby's
and unsurprisingly, Chick-fil-Adecimated that.
I think there was like twopeople.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You good with that Chick-fil-A.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
He's going to run everyone by you, because they
have salad at Chick-fil-A.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Director of Health Services.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Emily Meehls.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And Chick-fil-A.
Director of.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Health Services Emily .
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Meehl.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And then following up , that I've never eaten at
Arby's in my life.
Yeah, I have eaten atChick-fil-A.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Okay, chicken is good .
It is good.
And you said they have divinechicken because they're closed
on Sunday yeah they're closed onSunday.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Man, I mean something special about that.
All right, what's next?
And then Wendy's was facing offagainst Popeye's in our four
versus five matchup.
Wendy's moved on, but that wasa close one, right?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
That was 30 to 62%.
Oh, not as close as that.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
We had pretty decent voter turnout.
Yeah, around 50 votes,something like that.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, 50 votes consistently across, so it was
pretty cool, good.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Yep.
Then we had Taco Bell versusSubway Matt's love Taco Bell.
Taco Bell moved on to round two.
And then number two McDonald'sversus Burger King.
Mcdonald's moved on.
Pretty much the top four seedsall moved on in that region.
And then in the fast casualregion we had Chipotle versus
(08:08):
Matt's favorite Domino's Pizza.
Come on, domino's.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I heard this because I listened to the one right
before that you sent me and Iwas like what you choose?
Domino's over Chipotle.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
That has a refined palette, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I don't need to explain myself here on the
Plugin Podcast.
I'm a guy that just looks likehe enjoys some Domino's.
There used to be this joke.
So when I was getting mymaster's degree, I was doing
trombone performance and therewas this running joke that was
like so in Boston you could walkinto any Starbucks in the city
and you could find a stringquartet Like that's just like.
And they were just like.
(08:47):
Well, where do you got to go tofind a trombone quartet?
Dominoes, they were.
So that's my people.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Domino's was decimated 28 votes.
I was tempted.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Above.
So obviously I run my personalaccount and I was tempted to
vote twice with my mass musicaccount.
Sneaky.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Vote or front.
Vote or front no.
No, no, I agree he didn't.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I can confirm he did not.
I was tempted.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
But it was 82% to 18.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Move on.
Let's move on.
All right, all right.
And then the next one wasnumber four versus number five
in the fast casual Five Guysversus Jersey.
Mike's Five Guys moved on,despite the fact that it's super
expensive to go there, as wetalked about in the last podcast
, jersey.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Mike's is pretty great though.
I love Jersey Mike's I loveJersey Mike's and they make
their sandwiches.
So even I hate it when peoplemake sandwiches and that's their
job and it's like all over theplace.
Tomatoes are all on one sideand the meat is all on the other
side, or like Jersey Mike's.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
The middle is like a big, like a huge chunk of like
the meats there and like nothingon the end.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I feel that way about Chipotle, so we just talked
about Chipotle versus Domino's.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
This is his gripe.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Here we go, Just kidding.
Yeah, contents inside.
I feel like you.
I'm just like you're paid.
This is your job.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Side comment Nate's college, oh, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
My roommate in college.
He was fired from Chipotlebecause he couldn't make the
burritos fast enough.
Yeah, he got fired, but he usedto bring home like three every
day before he got fired.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
They look for speed over quality, and then the
people that do it fast rip it.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
You should have said this in the beginning.
Maybe you would have stand achance of winning.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'm just saying I would get the bowl I do too.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I never get the.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I feel really attacked right now.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
No, they don't need to do it right because I'll just
mix it all up.
No attacking.
I feel it In our.
They don't need to do it right,because I'll just mix it all up
.
Yeah, well, anyways, noattacking, no attacking.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
No I feel it, in our number three versus number six
matchup it was Raising Cane'sversus Shake Shack.
Raising Cane's advanced, okay.
And then number two versusnumber seven, panera versus
Panda Express.
Panera moved on in thatcategory as well.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Also very expensive, though.
Yes, panera just in thatcategory as well.
Also very expensive, though.
Yes, it makes me mad when I goin and I'm like what you get?
Like five bites of a salad andit's like $7.99 for the half.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
It's so expensive, it's so expensive.
But it is good, that's theproblem.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
You have to pay it's crazy that you have to pay so
much for fresh food.
It's insane, anyways.
And then we move into thesit-down restaurant category.
This was close.
Number one seed CheesecakeFactory almost got upset by
Applebee's.
What.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
It was 51% to 49%.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You were the one that pumped that up, though he did.
Nate said during college youwent to Applebee's like three
times a week which is insane,which is terrifying.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Actually, and Applebee's like three times a
week, which is insane, which isterrifying actually, and I've
gone like three times in thepast five years, ten years, okay
, All right, cheesecake is sodiversified.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's almost too much.
Yeah, you can get like anythingyou want there.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, you sit down and you're, just like I'm
overwhelmed.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yes, I agree.
I mean like the menu is like abook, well, book, well you're in
, like a palace while you'reeating there too.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Palace the setting of it is crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Applebee's, I think, wins by name.
Everybody's heard of Applebee's.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I don't know if everybody knows Cheesecake
Factory.
Well, and I think too, whatwe're dealing with is a lot of
the kids from the division thatare on Instagram.
What are they going to?
They're going to Applebee's.
Younger demographic.
Elizabeth actually wrote to me.
She's like this isn't fair.
She's like we need a teenagerbracket next year and a refined
palette bracket next year Arefined palette, and I was like
(12:22):
girl, but it was so funny, I waslike talk to Nate.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Well, she also had problems with the seeding and I
said you know what?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Chat GPT created the seeds for me DBC Elizabeth.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Okay, she's come on the show.
Bring her on.
Okay, that was a close one.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
In the number four versus number five matchup we
had Outback versus Chili's andChili's as the number five upset
Outback.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I love Outback.
That was such a shame for me.
Yeah, I love Outback as well.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
And then in number three versus number six we did
Texas Roadhouse versus numbersix, red Lobster, texas
Roadhouse versus number six, redLobster, texas Roadhouse
advanced, red Lobster barely gota vote, three votes.
Three votes.
It wasn't me, was it?
No, I don't think it was you.
No, it wasn't you.
Okay, and then in probably theit wasn't me, was it the upset
of the first round?
Number two, olive Garden, gottaken down by number seven,
(13:11):
buffalo Wild Wings.
Yeah, buffalo Wild Wings,that's what.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I'm talking about Long live wings.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I mean Buffalo Wild Wings is just subpar wings.
No, it's not subpar wings.
I reject that.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Really bad service.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
The service is unbelievably bad.
Every Buffalo Wild Wings I haveever been to.
The service is unbelievably bad, not subpar wings.
Get out, let's hang it up rightnow.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I'm not passionate about this episode.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I'm not passionate about this at all.
Um, okay.
And then in the dessert andcoffee category uh, duncan
number one seed sounsurprisingly advanced over
crumble cookie.
Uh, pretty handedly, um, but wedid have an upset number five,
dairy queen, upset number four,cinnabon, and Cinnabon, how do
you say?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
it.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Cinnabon.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Thank you.
How is it spelled?
That's how a normal person saysit.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
This is how Nate says it.
No, how is it spelled, itdoesn't matter.
It's a picture of a cinnamonbun.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
It's a play on the word.
Okay, just keep going.
What's the bun?
It's elevated.
It's a play on the word.
Just keep going.
What's the bun?
Bon, what does?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
that even mean it's not a bon, it's elevated.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It's refined.
Where's the bon coming from?
Cinnamon Bon?
I don't know.
See, if you don't have answers,you can't claim I'm going to
research this.
I'll come back next week.
Pause Are you Dunkin', dunkin'or Starbucks?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
If it really came down to it If it came down to it
, Duncan.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Okay, I'm worried.
So we said at the end of thisbracket, whatever the ultimate
winner is we're going to have onthe show for that episode.
We're all like a little bitworried.
It's going to be Duncan.
Yeah, I know, because I'd say,like most episodes would usually
have Duncan in front of us.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Anyway, I really wanted Domino's, he really
wanted a pizza.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
We're also in the Dunkin', capital of the world, I
know.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But the reason I would go with Dunkin' just
because it's easier and cheaperas opposed to Starbucks, which
is super super expensive andthey're like super snobby about
the ways they talk about theircoffees, although that
commercial, but the coffee'sbetter.
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
If you're anything like my wife, and she has the
most complicated order in theworld and then she gets mad at
me it's complicated because it'sless carbs.
Well, she gets mad at me that Ican't verbalize it properly.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I need like an education in coffee.
Wait, what are you getting?
Coffee doesn't have carbs.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
No, but like, if you get like a macchiato, I don't
want milk, I want like cream orlike, if there's.
I want like sugar free,whatever so it is complicated.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So he's right.
But also.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I'm also a moron.
When I go to the drive-thru andeverything in my mind is scared
, sorry.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Nate will say every order backwards.
He will say I would like acoffee with ice in it, a medium
with cream.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
I'm like you could have said that so much more
efficiently horrible.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I'm trying to get all the major bullet points nine
times out of ten.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Right, I'm just gonna like lean over and order for
myself, but he gets, he gets allworked up.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I do I will say the efficiency of Dunkin.
When I go through thedrive-thru I'm just like large
hot cream only and like I'm 45seconds later I'm driving away.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
They're like drive up .
Speaker 1 (16:08):
They're like drive up that always stuns me when I go
back to the Midwest and I try toorder coffee at a Dunkin' I'm
like large hot cream only, andthey're like how's your day?
Going.
Good morning I'm like no, Justgive me my coffee please.
Transaction, Transaction I usedto be this nice I'm not this
nice anymore.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I've changed.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Nice, it's like just naked.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
We'll go to the Northeast Right, right, exactly.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Sorry, I didn't mean to get into it.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yes, you did it's fine.
Keep going, though.
All right.
What was the next one Number?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
three versus number six.
Another upset Ben and Jerry'snumber six took down number
three.
Krispy Kreme.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That's considered an upset.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
That's an upset what?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I mean I wouldn't consider it.
My dad is upset, mr KrispyKreme himself he texted me no
way.
No he did Actually.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
my mom texted for him .
Okay, fair, fair hey we'relistening to the podcast Dad
loves Krispy Kreme.
It was like a real parentsmoment.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
It's amazing, it's amazing Sorry, we couldn't make
him proud.
No, I tried, I tried.
And then Starbucks number twoseed took down number seven,
rita's, which opens in threedays Wait what is Rita's?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Italian ice, italian ice.
That's kind of what I said.
It's so good, it's not my jam.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Maybe it is a-.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That looks somewhat familiar, yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
It's not like there's .
I think there's only one in thearea and it's in Walpole, and
we drove right over there oncewe learned that it was there
which took us to our Sweet 16.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
So this is the voting of.
The Sweet 16 happened yesterday, right, Yep?
So we had back to the fast foodbracket Number one.
Chick-fil-a beat Wendy's Numberfour.
It is now moving on to theElite Eight.
Okay, Taco Bell took downMcDonald's.
Thank you Good.
So now Taco.
Bell Thank you listeners.
I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Taco Bell will now be facing off against Chick-fil-A
to see who wins the fast food bya margin of one vote.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Oh, so is me.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Did you vote twice and only one person voted, can
we validate.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Do we need a?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
recount no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Just put that poison in my body.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
And so yeah, the final match, or the region
champion, will be decidedbetween Chick-fil-A and Taco
Bell.
Oh, interesting the fast casualregion Chipotle, our number one
seed was knocked off by fiveguys by five no.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I disagree with that.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Me too, me too.
Me too All right go ahead Eventhough your burritos are always
broken.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, but I would rather have my broken burrito
than spend like $25 on a juniorbacon cheeseburger with fries.
Yes, yes, yeah, that is fair.
No thanks, yep.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
And then Raising Cane's lost to Panera, so number
two Panera moves on to face offagainst Five Guys.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Okay, the winner of that region.
Yeah, I was surprised by that,yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
In the sit-down region.
Number one.
Cheesecake Factory took downChili's, so Cheesecake Factory
moves on to Elite.
Eight.
Mm-hmm moves on to lead eight.
Texas Roadhouse took down.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Buffalo Again, but that was also by one vote.
These are close.
These are really close, okay.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Texas Roadhouse number three took down Buffalo
Wild Wings, so now it's aCheesecake Factory Texas.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Roadhouse showdown.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Sorry Matt, I pour a heart.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Domino's and then yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Which leads us to an epic, epic, sweet, sorry,
whatever matchup this is Wow,you really left us hanging there
, Sorry, sorry.
So Duncan moved on againstDairy Queen, unsurprisingly, and
Starbucks moved on against BenJerry's, which leads us to a
Duncan versus Starbucks showdownfor the battle of the coffee
slash dessert region.
You're still going, duncan.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Well, so no, probably not.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Because I think ease, I would just grab a coffee at
Dunkin'.
But if I'm going to judgequality, Starbucks is way higher
than Dunkin'.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You can vote however you want.
Yeah, but the voting doesn'thave to be on quality, because
you could be voting on E's.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
If listeners out there.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
If you want to vote for Dunkin', you can't.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
But also you could vote on the app, and the Duncan
app is superior, in my mind, toany other app.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
But have you used the Starbucks app?
Because it's all so easy.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I refuse to use the Starbucks app, because they
don't understand your orders, myLanta, you sound pretty scarred
Speaker 4 (20:11):
by this.
What order did you Keep?
Speaker 5 (20:12):
going, that's it, so we have those matchups.
We keep going, keep going,that's that's it.
So we have those matchups.
Uh, we now have.
We're down to what?
The elite eight.
So we have eight left and, uh,all the voting now will
determine who is the regionwinner.
Uh, to take us to the finalfour.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Awesome yeah, crazy thanks, nate.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, good job, um emily, the.
The point of the plugged inpodcast is we try to keep people
plugged into what's happeningin the massachusetts division.
Uh, we have found that overtime, listenership has grown far
past our division.
I think I can't remember theexact stats, but something like
305 cities, 24 countries overthe two years that we've been
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doing this.
There are people that listen tothe show and so, just going
beyond kind of where we are athere, we just wanted to say
first, thank you for coming onthe show, thanks for letting the
listeners know kind of whatyou're doing to help advance the
mission of the Salvation Army.
But when we do have specialguests on the show, they're here
for a reason and we want toaffirm the work that you're
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doing and we want to, not thatyou know, our opinions are
matter or above anyone else's,but we want people to see what
you're doing, that it matters,that you're caring for people
and that this work is reallyimportant.
So we appreciate you and weappreciate the position you're
in and the work that you'redoing and putting people in the
right place.
So I just wanted to say hear itfrom us.
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Thank you for who you are andfor what you do and, if it's
okay with you, before you go, wejust want to pray for you and
the work that you do, and thenthat'll be a wrap.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, absolutely Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Thank you for saying yes on this rainy Monday day it
is really rainy.
All right, let's pray.
Lord, we just thank you for thework that you give us to do.
We thank you for the passionsof our hearts.
We thank you, lord,specifically for Emily and just
hearing a little bit about herstory and the legacy that lives
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on within her of helping andserving people.
We thank you for her dad and wethank you, lord, for just the
bravery that it takes to besomeone who runs into danger
after someone they don't know.
Lord, we just thank you forthat example and we thank you,
lord, for that selflessness.
I thank you for Emily and Ithank you that she just
continues to model this life ofserving others, getting phone
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calls in the car with her family, rearranging schedules, kind of
just living on the edge of herseat here.
Lord, I just thank you for thepassion of her heart.
I thank you for her story.
I thank you for the ways thatyou are working in her life.
I thank you for her children.
Lord, I just pray that you wouldbless the work of her hands.
Lord, I pray that you wouldbless her efforts to do good and
to meet the needs of herbrothers and sisters in her
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sphere of influence.
I pray, lord, that you wouldgive her rest.
I pray, lord, that you wouldgive her energy.
I pray you'd give her visionand, lord, I just pray that
you'd continually surround herwith a community that is going
to uplift her, that's going toencourage her and speak life
into her and lift her up onthose days where she is feeling
tired and heavy, as she does forso many others.
Lord, just bless her and keepher, and we just thank you, god,
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that for this season, for thistime, she is in this position
and we know, lord, that you areusing her for your good and we
just thank you for that.
In your name, we pray Amen.
Amen.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Thank you so much.
That was really powerful, thankyou.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Thank you, thank you Seriously.
It's a lot of these unsung heromoments, so thank you for what
you do is really just beautifulto to hear and to be enlightened
and hopefully people that hearwill learn something new about
not only you but the work thatyou are a part of doing.
So, thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Anything else you want to say?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
No, I don't think so All right.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Once again, it's been great to have Emily Mew on the
show.
We'll have her information onthe screen if you're watching on
the SA Mass Music YouTubechannel.
We're going to take a quickbreak on the Plugged In Podcast
when we come back.
If you're still with us, we'relooking at John chapter 13
through 17.
This is Jesus's farewellmessage as we're moving into the
Easter season.
We're looking at the finalthings that Jesus says to his
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disciples and, by extension, toall of us.
So, if you're still with usafter the break, we're looking
at John chapter 13 through 17.
Thanks, emily.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Thank you All right, we'll be welcome back.
Episode number 24 of thePlugged In Podcast.
It's been a packed episodealready, I know, but closing out
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today's segment, we're going tostart a new study of the Bible
as we lead into the Easterseason.
We're going to talk aboutJesus's farewell message.
Is that what it's called,farewell message?
Yeah, okay.
So before we get into this, Ithink it'd be really important.
There's a trailer on Right NowMedia If you're interested in
this study, and it's availableto all the Corps officers in
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Massachusetts Division.
We're going to play the trailer, so audio will be on the audio
podcast.
The video we'll put on YouTube,so let's go ahead and watch
that right now you Get alone.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Figure out a place where no one can get to you and
just sit and meditate on thesetruths, because there's just no
way you're going to get it.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I mean, the reason why I chose to teach John 14 to
17 is I'm just going, god.
If there's one passage I reallywant to know before I die, it's
this one.
Because you know, we think likeknowing something is like at
school or in seminary, wherethey tell you something and then
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you say, yeah, I know that andI can get it right on a test.
No, it's about some miraclehappening where the core of who
you are, god strengthens you,and now you know these truths.
So I'm begging you, don't justbreeze through these passages.
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Figure out a place where youcan go, where no one can get to
you.
It's just you and God, and youimagine being in that upper room
and Jesus saying these words toyou.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Nate's going to lead us into this, but this is Jesus'
final message to his disciples,right before he's going to be
executed, and he knows it'scoming yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Francis.
He starts with this question.
He said if you knew that youonly had a few hours left to
live, wouldn't you make surethat your words mattered?
That's what Jesus is doing herein John chapter 13 through 17.
He's giving us his heart beforehe goes to the cross.
And this beautiful setting.
This is one verse prior, or onechapter prior to the start of
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the actual study.
It's kind of like the preambleto setting the stage for what
the disciples are going toexperience in this last week
leading up to Jesus going to thecross.
But we read there in Johnchapter 13, as it starts out
Before the Passover celebration,jesus knew that his hour had
come to leave the world andreturn to the.
Father Jesus knew that his hourhad come to leave the world and
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return to the father.
He had loved his disciplesduring his ministry on earth and
now he loved them to the veryend the very end.
It's a beautiful, that's abeautiful passage there, right
Jesus.
Here's Jesus in the room withhis disciples, who he knows
intimately because he had justspent over three years together
with them, in close quarters,doing everything across Galilee,
right and knowing exactlywhat's to come, knowing that
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Judas had already agreed tobetray him, knowing that Peter
was going to deny him threetimes, knowing that after Jesus
went to the cross, knowing thathis disciples would be holed up
and scared and scattered and inhiding.
Jesus knows all these thingsthat are coming, and yet he
loves his disciples to the veryend.
He does not allow any of thatto affect his intimacy and this
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connection, this communion thathe shares with them.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
If you watch the video, the Francis Chan does the
one thing that really stuck outto me.
So when he talks about like.
There's multiple times in thevideo where he says, like don't
just gloss over this verse.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yeah, when.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Jesus says that he loves you.
Stop, pause and try to evenunderstand what that means.
And he's talking about like theGod, the power that created the
heavens and the earth and theuniverse and spoke earth into
existence, the fact that hewould even have anything to do
with you, let alone love youLike Jesus loved, like can you,
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can you like feel that weight?
He talks about that in thevideo and I just like I found
that very powerful and it kindof led into what happens next.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, no, like it's it's.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
It's incredible to wrap our minds around this piece
of the power, of theincarnation right, which makes.
Jesus, so much greater than anyother God that God would
willingly enter into communitywith you and have personal
intimacy with you, the God ofheaven and earth right, who is
so far beyond and aboveeverything that we experience.
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And yet he experienced it, helived it, he shared it and
because of that he knows uscompletely.
And so Jesus embodies thishumility, he embodies this love,
he embodies this servantapproach to his disciples.
And it says after the meal wasover and they're reclining right
, he grabs a towel, he grabs abasin and he gets dirty.
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He gets down in the dirt rightand he starts to wash their feet
.
Yeah.
And we can really just read thatand be like, okay, jesus washed
his disciples feet, but like tounderstand that the God, who
existed before we did, loved usenough to wash this stinky,
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dirty part of our bodies todemonstrate just how he's
willing to just surrender andhumble himself for you out of
love and out of sacrifice and ofdevotion.
Um, can we wrap our mindsaround that?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I, I, uh, I feel like .
So that in verse six I feellike, uh, simon peter, when
jesus came to simon peter, petersaid to him lord, are you going
to wash my feet?
I can can feel the like.
Are you for real right now?
And Jesus' reply.
This is amazing.
You don't understand now what Iam doing, but someday you will,
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yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
I think I read something probably years ago but
just how quickly we can glossover even just like the loving
God loving us, jesus loving us,how quickly we can gloss over
even just like the you know,loving god, loving us, jesus
loving us, how quickly we cangloss over these things.
But like, if you think aboutthe feet of the disciples, you
know what I mean.
Not only did they only wearsandals, they walked on like
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dirt roads.
They probably stepped in likecamel turds, right like like,
think about the stuff that wason their feet.
They were probably well, theywere.
They were probably very like,very, very dirty.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
There's no way they bathed like as often, not as
regular.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
No, and this would have been, like you know, one of
the dirtiest parts is the feetbecause it just touches the
ground.
And I remember at camp a coupleof summers ago I think it was
Kristen Kristen's day formorning disco and she brought
Sydney up at that time.
I can see this picture in myhead, but was talking about
washing the disciples' feet andshe sat on the stage and Kristen
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, as she was giving her message,she washed Sydney's feet and
again, you can't compare ourfeet today to the scenario of
Jesus' day, of, of you know,jesus's day, but the visual of
someone bending down, loweringthemselves to do an act of love,
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like an act of service forsomeone else, um, it's just a
beautiful visual and I alwayssee it as I'm reading this and
thinking about man, the contextof the like, their stanky feet
well, and rewind back to what wesaid earlier this is his final
hour right so whatever he isdoing must be of the ultimate
importance and he says um, Ican't find it now.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Um, I have given you an example to follow yeah, since
I your lord and teacher havewashed your feet.
You ought to wash each other'sfeet.
I have given you an example tofollow.
Do as I have done to you.
That goes right back into.
I mean, we just wrapped up thebook.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Study that we've done , but living like Jesus lived,
and just think of the culturalimplications of this.
Like this is a.
This is an act reserved forslaves.
Like that's how it was in thesedays.
Only slaves wash the feet ofhouse guests.
And so Jesus, using somethingthat they don't understand, but
someday later they will hesubmits himself fully to the
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Father's will.
But also he submits himself inhumble, loving service to his
disciples, and it's interestinghow the ones who are enslaved by
sin and bondage his disciples.
he became a slave to set themfree, and so it's this beautiful
like yeah it's at play and youcan easily miss it if you're not
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looking deep into the text andunderstanding the context and
everything that's going on inthat room.
And so from that theytransition and Jesus talks about
the significance of the breadand the wine in this last meal
that they share together.
Right, and this Greek word forthis fellowship and this
intimacy that's created calledkoinonia, right, and it's not
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just hanging out, but it's inthe breaking of bread, in the
drinking of the wine, in thisholy, sacred moment, God's
presence is there.
And so when he says do this inremembrance of me, when you
gather and you break breadtogether and you celebrate the
sacrifice that I gave, you'regoing to be remembering that you
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were dead, you were lost inyour sin, but I came to become
the bread of life.
My blood was poured out andshed for you out of my great
love that comes from the Father.
And so Jesus is providing thesevisual representations that
point to the goodness and to theheart and to the nature of God,
and he says pass this on, dothis in remembrance of me, pass
this on to the next generation.
May this not just be a trivialmoment, but may this be
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something that informs andshapes the way that you live out
your witness and your testimonyand share my salvation with the
world.
And so what we see?
There's a lot of deep, deepthings at play here, and it
speaks back again to the pointthat the disciples didn't fully
understand in that moment whatwas happening.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Well, I think it's funny because we often, like,
can easily rag on the disciplesfor not getting it.
But my goodness, how many timeshave I needed to be knocked
upside the head to get something?
But I think even with Judas hegets such a bad rap, and I mean
rightly so.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
He only betrayed you, he only betrayed him.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
But I love how Francis puts it when he's
talking about like he betrayedhim for these 30 pieces of
silver and then after herealizes the magnitude of what
he's done, that silver isworthless but it was worth
everything for the betrayal.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
But then after the fact, it was interesting thing
that Francis Chan said so inchapters 14 through 17.
So this is mostly jesusspeaking right and the the
promises that jesus makes andthe things that he said, that
he's saying are so mind-blowingand kind of I mean, for me
difficult to comprehend.
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Yeah, um, when you come backback and look at Judas's
betrayal in context Judas leftthe room, yeah, before.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Any of it, he was able to hear any of that yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
It wasn't for him.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
And I mean just kind of like I don't know the magnet,
I don't know if I've everreally read these chapters in
this frame of mind.
Yeah, in this frame of mind,yeah, so just kind of, what the
author is allowing me to do iskind of like really, pause,
really go slow.
Yeah, look at these what Jesusis saying, verse by verse.
But do you want to move us intochapter 14?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, Well, I just wanted to point back to like the
emotional highs, right.
Like they go from like notunderstanding what's happening
with the washing of the feet tobreaking bread together, sharing
a meal, and the fellowship andthe intimacy, and then, all of a
sudden, like Jesus drops hisbombshell, that like one of you
is going to betray me.
And the disciples are lookingaround and they're like what are
you talking?
about we spend every wakingmoment with you.
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We've given up our lives foryou.
And they're looking at eachother and like how could this be
?
How could this be?
Imagine, like, like how thatcuts like a knife to, to hear
those words coming from the Lordthat you've, like, dedicated
your life to serve and then kindof moving into the the
uncertainty surrounding that, asas Judas abruptly leaves the
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room and it's like emotions arehigh.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Emotions are high.
Yeah, I mean it says in thescripture.
I mean the fact that theydidn't suspect Judas.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Like when Jesus says I tell you the truth, one of you
will betray me.
The disciples looked at eachother wondering whom he could
mean.
Right, the disciple Jesus lovedwas sitting next to Jesus at
the table.
I think that's John Simon Petermotioned to him to ask who's he
talking about?
So I mean, I'm just imaginingthe commotion in the room, but
that's just like telling that,after spending three, three and
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a half years together in closequarters, no one was like yeah,
judas has been a little shady.
I mean, it might be that guy.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Like no, there was no hint of suspicion.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
That's really interesting too, yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
And so Jesus takes.
When you move into chapter 14,which we're the next session
picks up on, jesus takes all ofthis emotion and he says like
this this is happening, butdon't let your hearts be
troubled.
Don't let your hearts betroubled.
And so Jesus immediately calmstheir fears.
He calms their uncertainty bysaying don't let your hearts be
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troubled.
And so Jesus immediately calmstheir fears.
He calms their uncertainty bysaying don't let your hearts be
troubled.
You believe in God.
Believe also in me.
My father's house has manyrooms.
If that were not so, would Ihave told you that I'm going
there to prepare a place for you.
And if I go and prepare a placefor you, I will come back and
take you to be with me, that youalso may be where I am.
You know the way to the placewhere I am going.
And so Jesus reminds them, likeeverything that you have
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experienced up to this point waspreparation, and it was
pointing to the fact that,because you are in relationship
with me and I am in relationshipwith the father, there is a
place for you in my kingdom.
And so, because you know theway and because you've been
prepared, you're going to have arole in preparing this kingdom,
or how this kingdom is revealedin the world.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I like the realism of the moment.
I mean, so you just said, andyou know the way to where I'm
going.
And Thomas pipes in no, wedon't, lord, we have no idea
where you're going.
So how can we know the way?
And then you get this bombshellverse of all time.
One of the all timers.
Jesus told him I am the way,the truth and the life.
No one can come to the Fatherexcept through me.
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If you had really known me, youwould know who my Father is
From now on.
You do know him and have seenhim.
And then Philip, again withthis realism Lord, show us the
father and that'll be enough.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, we'll be satisfied.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
And Jesus says have I been with you all this time,
philip, and yet you still don'tknow who I am.
Right, anyone who has seen mehas seen the father.
And in the Bible study in thevideo again, francis, kind of
all.
They know like we.
We kind of look at it throughthe lens of, like you know, we
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see God, we see Jesus, we we seethe picture, yeah.
In their perspective is like ifyou touch the Ark of the
covenant, you die.
If you touch the mountain thatMoses is on, you die.
If you walk into the wrong, theHoly of Holies like you die.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
You can't see of god.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, so they're like no, I haven't seen the father.
And jesus says if you've seenme, yeah, right and again.
It's that like if you'reassociating god with this
enormous amount of of power andperfection and and just uh, hard
to comprehend yes and thensomeone says no, you have seen
him.
Yeah, you have seen him, andjust yeah and just the
gentleness that I mean.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
We just continually read about how jesus's response
to the disciples' questions overand over again.
He's so gentle, you know what Imean.
I just think I think often inmy life and how you know, I can
be so easily bothered by youknow let's call it incompetence,
right Like they're just likeasking these questions, they've
seen these miracles, they'veseen him do these things, and
(41:17):
that they still have thesequestions and it would just be
like like I want to shake himand be like have you seen what
I've done?
You know what I mean.
But jesus is so gentle in hisresponse and he's so like it's
me.
I am like you've seen this,you've I've done this.
It isn't.
Is that how you?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
met.
I mean, so, I'm like.
So this is just purelyspeculative, but like, how do
you imagine this scenario, thescene, like, like, how, like the
volume of his voice, the tone,um late, I'm getting a little
bit ahead.
Uh, we will talk about this inthe next uh podcast but, there
is one moment where hisdisciples uh say at last you are
speaking plainly and notfiguratively.
Now we understand that you knoweverything and there's no need
(41:53):
to question, no more riddles.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Now we know who you are.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I mean once we get more into these chapters.
There is some stuff that I'mjust like I don't even I'm not
sure what that means.
There's a moment where Jesussays anyone who believes in me
will do the works that I havedone and greater.
And I think, like once we getinto this study, that's like.
What does that look like?
What's the vibe?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
of the room.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Well, I mean, like, am I capable of raising people
from the dead, like anyone whobelieves?
I mean, these are like and inthe, the study, francis says
like, don't try to explain theseverses away, yeah, yeah, I
think that's like really, it'sreally interesting.
Again, I just I don't know ifI've read these chapters before
with this kind of like weight tothe moment so we can easily
(42:40):
gloss over.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
Well his response to Philip like it resonates with me
a hundred percent when he'slike don't you know me, philip?
even after I've been among youfor such a long time and I think
of just you know how immersedmy life has been, Praise God,
Like.
I was raised in the church, Ispent time in church, I spent
time in church, I spent timeworking at camp and my whole
life has been, you know, kind ofbuilt and shaped around my
(43:02):
involvement in faith and and andchurch and and all those things
.
But how many times have I seenhim at work among me and still
had doubts?
or or written it off, or fearsor insecurities that I just
couldn't, for some reason in myhumanness, couldn't trust him
with't trust him with or justallow him to reign supremely in
that situation.
(43:22):
And maybe God is saying to youtoday, even after you've been
around me for all this time, howdo you not see me?
And so the challenge for us,maybe, is God, I want to see you
and I want to trust you, and Iwant to know that your will and
your way is best, even when it'sdifficult to.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I may not understand it now, but someday I will, as
you said, yeah, well, I thinkwe're going to do one more
podcast segment and we're goingto wrap up this Bible study.
So, because today's the firstday that we've introduced it,
we'll put a pause there forright now.
But I want to encourage ourlisteners as we move into the
Easter season open your Bible,get into these verses.
(44:00):
Yeah, if you have access toRight Now Media, I really
recommend watching the videos.
They also come with studyguides.
I said at the top like I liketo think cinematically, I like
to think like on the epic side.
Yeah, and these videos withFrancis Chan, I mean he's like
literally recording.
I mean it must be in like Utahor like the mountains.
He's like, on the precipice oflike of everything and nothing
(44:23):
at the same time, and uh, but Imean there's just like a uh.
I keep on using the word weightand heavy but, there is like a
seriousness and um, uh, I don'tknow sense of presence sense of
presence to what he's saying.
Uh, so can.
Before the next podcast drops,take your Bible, read John
chapter 13 through 17.
(44:45):
These are the moments leadingup to before he's ultimately
executed but then brought backto life.
Spoiler alert oh yeah, couldn'tget that out.
The best spoiler of alleternity, right?
Yeah, couldn't get that out.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
The best spoiler of all eternity.
Right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
So, yeah, if you need access to Right Now Media, you
can contact any of us here inthe Salvation Army Massachusetts
division.
There's a lot of people thatcan get you access to that, but
I encourage you to join us alongthis journey as we head towards
Easter.
Yeah, any final thoughts onthis section for today?
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Well, if you're doing that with a group, there's a
convenient discussion guidesthat come along with that and
printable things that you cansend, and so it really just
helps facilitate theconversation for you and your
group as you're studying thispart of John together.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Yeah, I just say, just as Matt has already alluded
, to, take your time in it, sitwith it, don't rush through it
Like you're reading a book, kindof just let each verse speak to
you, as the lord intends for itto, and see what, and see
what's revealed, see what, seewhat's revealed in your heart in
those moments, and I, I want tosay um I think what has helped
me allow yourself this the thespace to not understand
(45:54):
everything yeah I think that'shard.
It's hard, but it's true.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, allow yourself the grace, the space, the room
to read this and to get some ofit and maybe not get some of it.
I think that's part of thejourney and everyone's starting
from a different place andeveryone's starting a different
relationship with God and it'svery individual and so, anyways,
that's my overall encouragementtoday is to get into your word,
(46:19):
into the word.
So, all right, very good, good,the next podcast that drops,
we'll be wrapping up that andheading into Easter.
You guys have any finalthoughts for today's show?
It's a long show.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Long show, good show.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Good show.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
As we were recapping this and talking about Jesus
washing his disciples' feetserving people, I just thought,
wow, what a beautiful tie intosome of the stuff we heard from.
Emily and beautiful connectionabout others and serving others,
and you know what a practicalway to show God's love.
So show God's love this week insome new way.
But yeah, be kind to others.
(46:57):
Be kind to others.
I like that Spring's comingthis week in some new way.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
Um, but yeah, be kind to others.
Be kind to others.
Yeah, I like that Springscoming this week which means
well, this week we wererecording.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
By the time this drops, it'll be spring, which
means spring.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
Everyone youth councils is coming.
Mark your calendar.
May 16th to the 18th.
The theme is I don't know ifyou can see this on the camera
everything, everything.
We'll throw up the graphic.
Everything.
Love the Lord, your God, withall your heart, soul, mind and
strength, and love your neighboras yourself.
Uh, really looking forward tojust the planning that's coming
together for that Registrationwill be.
Probably, by the time thisvideo is out, registration will
(47:28):
already be ongoing.
Yeah, and so talk to your cop,core officer, um, and reach out
to us if you have any questions.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, I think the weekend after this podcast drops
will be the Yam Overnighter.
So on our next episode.
That's crazy.
We'll have a recap of how thatwent, but I have every
anticipation that it's going tobe a great weekend.
But yeah, yam, overnighter,youth Council, star Search.
It's all coming up, beautifulthings, all right, that's a wrap
(47:55):
for today.
On the Plugged In Podcast,episode number 24, with our
special guest, director ofdisaster services, emily Mew.
Uh, hopefully you're watchingon the essay mass music YouTube
channel or listening to whereveryou get your podcasts.
Uh, until next time, oh no.
Wow, why am I so bad at this?
All right, we will see you nexttime, you.
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