February 11, 2025 • 66 mins
On June 30th, 2001, in the quiet town of Hood River, locals would be saddened by the discovery of Eric Tamiyasu’s body in his rural home. But nothing could prepare them for the shocking realization that would come just a day later following his autopsy. He had been shot three times in the head, his body left undisturbed in his bed for nearly a week prior to the gruesome discovery. There were no signs of forced entry and nothing was stolen. It appeared that whoever entered his home that night had one purpose—murder. On the day his body was discovered authorities made an inexplicable decision: they burned Eric’s mattress before determining his cause of death. Whether this was an act of negligence or the intentional destruction of evidence remains a point of controversy. The case, which seemed solvable in its early days, quickly became muddled by speculation, rumors, and lost forensic opportunities.
Three main suspects emerged, though some speculate about a potential fourth. A business partner accused of embezzlement. A supposed close friend who knew more than he should have. A sheriff whose involvement in the case raised serious questions. There was even talk of a romantic rivalry, one that could have turned deadly without Eric even realizing. With each revelation, the mystery surrounding Eric’s death seemingly only deepened. Despite being featured on Unsolved Mysteries, no arrests have ever been made, and his family continues to seek justice. Was this a crime of passion, a financial dispute turned deadly, or something even more sinister? As we unravel the timeline, the evidence, and the missteps in the investigation, one thing becomes clear—someone knows the truth about what happened to Eric Tamiyasu.
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Three main suspects emerged, though some speculate about a potential fourth. A business partner accused of embezzlement. A supposed close friend who knew more than he should have. A sheriff whose involvement in the case raised serious questions. There was even talk of a romantic rivalry, one that could have turned deadly without Eric even realizing. With each revelation, the mystery surrounding Eric’s death seemingly only deepened. Despite being featured on Unsolved Mysteries, no arrests have ever been made, and his family continues to seek justice. Was this a crime of passion, a financial dispute turned deadly, or something even more sinister? As we unravel the timeline, the evidence, and the missteps in the investigation, one thing becomes clear—someone knows the truth about what happened to Eric Tamiyasu.
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Well look at that, this fucking guy, Don Dixon, after the helpful friend following his
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unfortunate discovery shared something else of interest regarding Eric's private life,
but he thought my provide illumination in the case.
He said that Eric had recently told him about a new relationship that he had struck up,
supposedly with a Polynesian woman, who happened to be married.
Oh no!
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Hi Cassie.
Hi Caitlyn.
Hi Creepy people.
Oh hello!
This is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where...
What is it that we do again?
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I'm just kidding.
We chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest.
Or the PNW.
If you're nasty.
Oh, we did that good.
That was good.
I didn't know you were joining me.
I felt I was feeling it.
I feel like that's probably about the same as when you're in one of those churches, you
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know, and people feel the spirit.
I felt your spirit, for sure, your nasty spirit.
My nice spirit.
What else do we do here?
Oh, I think we do some tarot reading at the end of every episode.
For a little deeper insight into our topic.
All right.
Should we get into it?
I...
Yeah.
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Let's do it.
I'm ready.
Let's go.
Okay, great.
Your enthusiasm is as per usual underwhelming.
Eric Tamiyasu was born November 23rd, 1959, to parents Mitsugi, who went by mits,
and Jinko Jean Kiyomura.
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Tamiyasu.
JNCO Jeans?
Isn't that like a thing?
That's...
Yeah.
It's going to take a lot to get me out of that.
Luckily, I think I'm going to refer to her as Jean, which was what she went by.
Okay.
I like the Mitsy.
What is it, Mits?
Mits.
Not Mitsy, that's a cat name.
But like...
Yeah.
Or, or, or, or, or, or, or, mitsie kind of has a little bit of a feminine air to it.
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And Mits.
Mits is.
Eric's dad.
Okay.
Mits was born and raised in Hood River, a graduate of Hood River High School in 1941.
Wow.
Yeah.
Probably not a lot of people out there in 1941.
No.
And...
Do two events?
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Sometimes there would be less people.
Do you remember anything about the '40s?
World War II?
Yes.
I'm so good.
Only because we've talked about it recently in a bunch of episodes for some reason.
We sure have.
Yeah.
I think we've discussed.
World War II is sort of like my Roman Empire sometimes.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Anyways, that one war.
During World War II, mits and his family were forcibly relocated like many other Asian Americans.
That old thing.
That old thing.
They were halted camps in both Wyoming and California.
When they were eventually released, the family returned to their family orchard in Hood River.
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Oh, an orchard.
Yeah.
Because Hood River is like the fruity place.
It's the fruit loop and stuff.
Yes.
I want to focus on the good stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well.
Yeah.
I'm coming in hot with not a lot of good stuff and I'm going to be honest.
This is I went back story and I was looking for some good, good folksy, awesome stuff and
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it's there.
And then it's also real dark.
This is also where mits met and fell in love with Jean Kiyomera who herself was an
organ native born in Portland.
Our family had also endured internment during the war at Minidoka in Idaho.
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Have we talked about that place before?
Yeah.
Okay.
That sounds really familiar.
I thought that might ring a bell.
Yeah.
Unfortunately.
Shortly after she graduated from high school and the family was released, she went to work
as a nurse for Shriners Children's Hospital in Minnesota.
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Okay.
Despite the harsh realities, they had faced during wartime.
Both were young people who seemingly went on to thrive and give much of themselves to
those around them.
Aww.
I mean, a nurse at a children's hospital.
Seriously.
Yeah.
It's unclear from my research what eventually brought her back to the state of Oregon, but
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once she made her way, the couple quickly united in a whirlwind romance.
Oh, I love a good whirlwind.
I know.
In the post-World War II era.
Oh.
Say World War II whirlwind romance.
Five times as.
I barely said it one time.
Thank you very much.
Thank you and good night.
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The pair started a family and went on to have four children.
Stan, Eric, Teresa, and Ramona.
Jean seemed to revel in their fruitful life, tending to their children as well as orchard
with her husband and some of their extended family.
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Having access to all of the finest fresh fruit one could want, led to legendary expertise
in making her own jams, jellies, and particularly pies.
I was literally thinking about like jam, jam.
She was an accomplished woman when it came to traditional endeavors and homemaking and
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child rearing, but she was also passionate about her more leisurely endeavors like Cross stitch,
playing the piano, and she was also a serious Portland Trailblazers fan.
Wow.
I know.
Super wholesome.
I know.
And it's interesting because some of her hobbies in particular reminded me so much of Chris's
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mom all across stitch the Blazers adorable.
I love it.
She also kept in touch with many friends from all over by sending letters in her beautiful
curse of handwriting.
Oh, look at good handwritten letter.
I know.
I have terrible handwriting.
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So I'll bring you a letter and I'll make it smell real nice, but it's not going to look great.
I mean, it might look great in the sense that do you enjoy gel pens?
I mean, yeah, the shimmery kind.
Oh, hell yeah.
For sure.
Mm-hmm.
If you have bad hand, or you have to write in a gel pen, it's the law.
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I think so.
Yeah.
The tone is about to shift.
And we're not even really getting to the sad sad.
Sad sad.
There's more sad than just normal sad.
There's actually just layers of sad.
Oh, yeah.
I thought, let me open this with something light.
How about a little bit of a chat about, I don't know, something casual like jams and jellies
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and, you know, the government forcibly in turning its own citizens.
Yeah, that's disgusting.
I hate it.
That's the light part.
Jean passed away at age 88 in May of 2013, just two years after her husband.
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They both seemed to have lived very full lives and both passed in May just two years and a
handful of days apart.
Though myths would live 80 of his 88 years in the very same house that he grew up in, his
life was far from doldrum.
They both died at 88 also.
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Oh, my gosh.
I know it took me a little bit as I was reading through the information about both of them
and, you know, their lives and then their passing.
And I was like, are you kidding me?
It's very notebook.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like, same month, two years apart, same age.
And I was in that strange, but it's very strange.
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First off, if nothing else, there's a bizarre synchronicity of their passing.
But myths actually died on Friday the 13th.
Wow.
A very lucky day, but we died on it, so I know.
I just think it gives real bad ass vibes, you know.
But getting back to the land of the living, myths traveled abroad extensively with his beloved
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local lions club, enjoyed foraging, fishing, and even collected antiques.
Kind of a cool gay.
Haunted antiques?
I don't think so.
Can we turn this into ghosts?
He was an active community member and a friend to many, frequently sporting a jauntie hat,
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as well as a cigar and a smile.
What is a jauntie hat?
I think it just means like he just was like very casual about how he wore it.
I'm not totally clear on that.
A jauntie hat.
Yes.
I do have some pictures of him and I think it's an apt description, but I'm picturing
one of the hats with like the helicopters on it.
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No.
I'm stuck on his head just to twirl and I think maybe a skew is a good way to describe it,
but I don't recall seeing a helicopter.
That's just what I'm thinking in my mind.
You know this little helicopter hat, you know what I'm talking about?
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
It's just a doesn't apply.
By contrast, there's on the Eric at 41 years old, though he shared his father's occupation
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as an orchardist and the general good-naturedness of both of his parents, it seemed he was more
reserved.
I think that's why at least in part, so much of the focus on this family and Eric in particular
has to do primarily with the strange circumstances surrounding his 2001 death rather than the beautiful
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tapestry of the lives that they all led.
On 25th, 2001, Eric and his longtime friend Diana Anderson have been spending the evening
together at his home, which happened to be located within a fairly isolated area of Hood
River.
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Though the two had been very good friends for some time, they had met that evening with
the intention of discussing their relationship as it seemed that they had developed romantic
feelings for each other.
Oh, they got a DTR.
Wait, what's DTR?
Define the relationship.
Oh, duh.
It looked to be the start of a new phase in life.
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One that might mean a serious relationship, though they considered that evening to be their
first official date.
Oh, yeah.
Very sweet.
Very sweet and awesome.
At first.
Well, at Eric's home that evening, the couple had heard tapping sounds outside and felt like
the sounds were emanating from the area of the front door.
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Upon inspection after the doorbell rang, no one appeared to be outside.
But there was reportedly a lone chuprint present somewhere outside.
Okay.
So tapping on the front door.
Doorbell.
Yeah, and then one chuprint.
So someone's hopping around.
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Yeah.
pogo sticking it.
This was troubling to Diana as she drove home and has no doubt continued to puzzle her
in the day's sense as the last person to see Eric alive.
Oh, no.
After he was murdered in his own home execution style, nearly a week went by before anyone
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was concerned about his absence, concerned enough that they actually went to check on him.
And even what's her name Diana?
Is that her name?
Yeah, it's kind of unusual, I think, but I mean, yeah.
What was normal for their relationship, but that seems like a while.
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There's a lot of discourse about that, to be honest.
And I think just based on the fact that it was 2001, texting wasn't really as common.
Yeah.
So it's true.
You might not hear from a friend for a week at a time and that probably wouldn't have
been all that unusual.
I think they just like DTR.
Yeah.
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You think you would be like, you cited and want to see the person every day, but.
Right.
Or like, at least hear from them.
Yeah.
So you know that it didn't get weird.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Like, who called you?
Yeah.
It's hard to be a woman.
Sure is.
On June 30, Don Dixon stopped by to check on him as no one in his life had heard from him
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recently.
Conveniently, he had a key, reportedly to the back door.
I'm not sure if this is something that's mentioned specifically because there were multiple
different keys for entry to his home or if it's some sort of weird underhanded or almost
Freudian way of insinuating something else.
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I'm not even sure what that would be exactly.
It just feels.
If I'm like, um, poking, I'm poking on that, I feel like he had the key to his back door.
That kind of thing.
I don't think so.
I don't even know that that would be.
No.
It's just weird.
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And it's actually the whole thing about the key is just weird and maybe that's what I'm
picking up.
We're going to, we'll talk about the key.
Okay.
Yeah.
It just feels like there's something there and.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know how say I lived in has a different key for the back door.
So I've not personally experienced that.
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Just because I just seemed odd.
Does he only want hit like is that only giving him access to a certain part of the house?
Like, what does that mean?
Maybe they didn't use the front door.
I, you know, so many questions, but obviously they someone, someone tried to do something to
the front.
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They knocked.
They bring the belt.
I.
So many questions.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe that's not that weird.
Seems weird.
But like you bring that up and you think it's like really weird and I'm like, oh yeah, last
house I lived in had a different key for the back door.
Thanks a lot, asshole.
Sorry.
It's just my life experience.
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Yeah.
Nope.
I mean, it is, that is interesting because I feel like I thought that's odd.
I don't think that's necessarily like a typical thing, but it certainly wasn't beyond
the realm of possibility.
I just was like, what does that mean?
Yeah.
Anyway.
I don't know.
Amongst other questions that can't be answered.
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Wait, I have one more question.
What?
What if it was just, it was just a key to the back door, you know that for sure?
Or was it just like he just went in the back door?
I don't even know.
That's the thing.
I'm like, what are they trying to say with this?
Like, maybe because like, maybe there was a dead bolt on the back door.
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And he only had the key that like unlocked like the bottom lock.
I don't know.
Who knows, we get stuck on the weirdest shit, but we really, yeah.
Trust me, I was real stuck on it and it's not even an interesting aspect of the case overall.
Right.
Can't choose when the hyper focus activates.
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Clearly.
Right.
Last time I learned a lot about heraldry.
We have driven back.
The nature of their relationship would be called into question later.
And I can't help but think that the rumor mill might have gone into overdrive, which is
actually the understatement of probably my week.
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Because remember what I was saying about rumors, right?
tying our two episodes together.
Yeah.
Oh boy.
Okay.
Dixon readily identified an odor upon entering the home.
And when he eventually discovered Eric's decomposing body, he quickly called 911.
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That wasn't the only call that was made.
Though it's not entirely clear which call occurred first, either to 911 or the call I'm about
to describe.
I think 911 first.
There's a lot of discrepancies or things that are unspecified.
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Eric's sister stated that in a phone conversation with Dawn at some point after he discovered her
brother Eric's body in his home, Don told her that he did not see any exit wounds on
Eric's body.
You have the benefit of knowing that he was murdered in a style that is described as
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execution style.
But she found this very odd because they didn't know he had been shot.
Who didn't know?
No one.
Right.
But no one knew he had been shot.
But this guy goes in and saw his body.
Right.
And people that saw his body couldn't tell, could not tell.
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Interesting.
Don claimed that he believed Eric had died by suicide, explaining that was why he mentioned
potential exit wounds.
Which is interesting because people can die by suicide other than shooting themselves.
Yeah.
It had not been apparent when his body was initially discovered that Eric had been killed
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by three gunshot wounds to the head.
Law enforcement could not tell.
Apparently both law enforcement and the man claiming to be a close friend of Eric, Don
Dixon had no reason to suspect foul play.
Hood County Sheriff Joe Wompler reportedly approached Don Dixon questioning whether there
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was a burn pile on the property.
Oh, that is the correct response.
It's never good.
We also would have accepted what?
What?
Or, oh hell no.
Yeah.
I don't like to hear the word like murder and burn pile in the same situation.
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The same day.
No.
No.
He intended to use the burn pet as a means of disposal for the mattress in order to spare
Eric's family the grief of having to deal with it later.
Not your job.
Dixon was said to have agreed with this course of action at the time.
Oh, but he did.
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Okay.
In the many years since Eric's death, there have been a number of stories related about how
exactly this unfolded.
Some account state it was Don Dixon's idea to burn the mattress.
It's important to note here that some source material states that the mattress alone was
burned thereafter.
While others stated it was both the bed and the linens.
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I do believe that this is clarified in statements made by the DA that I will share a bit
later, assuming that you, you know, believe public statements made by the DA.
Hmm.
Certainly you wouldn't have any reason not to.
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I don't trust your face right now.
Not a face to be trusted.
It would be weird though to like burn the mattress and not the linens if your goal is to like
get rid of it.
So no one else has to take care of it.
Yeah.
And you don't think that death is suspicious at this point.
So why would you keep the linens, right?
What they insist.
Hmm.
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I don't know.
It's hard to say.
I'd like to show me the linens.
Where are the linens?
Where are the linens?
Though Dixon was certain that Eric was dead, he was quoted as saying of the discovery.
It was like he was in bed sleeping and he was shot.
There was no struggle.
One of the sheriff's deputies who reported to the scene, detective Gary Tiffany stated,
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Gary, Jerry, not really sure.
Don't really care.
Sorry.
Jerry or Gary?
Somebody came in here for the sole purpose of killing Eric.
They didn't steal anything.
They didn't take anything.
Heels were dundin' to say, but sorry.
I feel like a dick.
I don't know why.
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Jerry/Gary didn't really do anything wrong here so far as I can tell, but I'm just so fucking
angry.
If nothing was taken from the isolated home, it stood to reason that the primary motive for
entering the home was likely the murder.
The case took on a whole new dimension with the discovery of the gunshot wounds.
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It's remember they have no fucking idea this man was shot.
And they've already found his mattress.
But alas, what could have been critical forensic evidence in the case had already been lost
forever.
Because again, already burned it.
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How did they think he died?
There's gotta be blood.
He wasn't just, right?
He had blood in his body.
He did have blood in his body.
I obviously, because you said the mattress and like, I imagine...
I don't know how someone is shot in the head three times.
And that's completely escaping.
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There's complete visual field.
I have hurtive cases where they don't realize right away that the victim was shot.
But like, obviously killed in a something happened, man, or...
I just think we just have to treat all deaths as suspicious until proven otherwise.
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Right.
Like the opposite of...
Maybe wait for the autopsy.
I don't know.
Yeah.
At least.
It's a thought.
It's just very weird to like walk in and be like, "Oh, he's dead.
There's blood everywhere.
Doesn't look that suspicious."
I think if there had been blood everywhere.
Doesn't sound like there was.
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Don't know how that's possible.
I'm not sure.
A lot of questions.
That's the least of them.
According to Eric's family, he lived a quiet life with no apparent enemies or conflicts.
Three strong suspects in the case would emerge.
So there is a fourth potential suspect that some have speculated about.
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In no particular order, the first will discuss is Eric Smith.
It sounds like an alias, but it does infect his name.
Allegedly.
It actually is his name.
Oh, okay.
I'm just an asshole today.
While Eric's family didn't believe there were any issues between him with anyone, Don
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Dixon shared a conversation that he had reportedly overheard between Eric and his business partner,
also named Eric, which is unfortunate and confusing.
The pair ran a small car sales company together.
Eric T was our victim.
Okay.
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We're going to use initials.
Supposedly accused Eric Smith of embezzling money from their joint venture.
With the tune of about $60,000.
If there were any truth to this accusation made by Don Dixon, that could certainly go to
motive for Eric Smith in the killing.
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Oh, wait, this was Don Dixon's in, Paul.
Okay.
Got you.
I'm glad you're flagging that.
I flagged it.
I've put it in that.
Yeah, that's right.
Not just a hat, rag, my friend.
However, it does not seem to have ever been substantiated.
Each of the three suspects would eventually in turn take polygraph tests.
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While it cannot be said for all three suspects, Eric did pass.
Good job, Eric Smith.
Yeah.
Also, I mean, first, so many.
It was a long time ago, right?
No, it was 2001.
2001.
Well, it was kind of a long time ago.
That was kind of 24 years ago.
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Yeah.
It's basically like when I was born.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways, so he passed the polygraph for whatever that's worth.
Eric Smith has always denied that there was any issue between them regarding their business
or personal finances.
And all ones ever pointed to anything that proves that there were any issues or financial
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misdeeds or business disagreements or even a stubbed toe.
He said they were best friends and Eric T had even been the best man at his wedding.
Aww.
I mean, that doesn't necessarily mean you can't do something bad to your friend, but true.
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It's just if there's no evidence.
Yeah.
If that's the only evidence.
I don't trust a polygraph, but knowing what I do for my research about the suspect pool,
I just don't see Eric Smith as the most viable.
Well, look at that.
This fucking guy, Don Dixon, ever the helpful friend following his unfortunate discovery shared
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something else of interest regarding Eric's private life.
But he thought might provide illumination in the case.
Keep your mouth shut, Don.
Yeah.
Shut the fuck up, Don.
We have feelings about Don.
I don't even know why yet, but I just...
But can you...
Ready?
Why are we talking so fucking much about Don?
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Yeah.
With a fucking Don, even.
He said that Eric had recently told him about a new relationship that he had struck up,
supposedly with a Polynesian woman who happened to be married.
Oh no.
Well, look at that.
This fucking guy, Don Dixon, ever the helpful friend following his unfortunate discovery shared
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something else of interest regarding Eric's private life.
But he thought might provide illumination in the case.
However, Hood River being such a small town with a total population of about 6,000 people
at the time and the Polynesian population even smaller, some came to suspect this might
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have been none other than Sheriff Wompler's wife.
Not the Sheriff's wife.
Oh shit.
If the Sheriff's wife had indeed been having an affair with Eric, which no one believes,
or can substantiate in any way, except for Don, of course.
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Then perhaps the Sheriff had a motive to murder Eric.
That pains his decision to burn potential evidence in the case in a very different light.
Which...
Is fair?
It is weird.
That being said, it does not appear that this theory has ever come even remotely close to
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being substantiated.
See what I did there?
How I said, you could see...
You could see it in my eyes.
I'm trying to force out like the nice way to say...
Yeah.
Sheriff Wompler also passed the polygraph test that he was administered.
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Okay.
It's weird.
Didn't I say that three people took polygraph tests and two of them passed?
Hmm.
Who failed?
This seems like a door of the Explorer episode, like...
Don Dixon sure had a lot of theories about who might have had a motive for killing Eric.
Was he just a trusted friend trying to help investigators?
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Or was he a cold blooded killer trying to cast his vision on anyone and everyone else
to save his own skin?
Sounds like that's the one, that last one you said.
You'll recall the unusual statement that Don Dixon made to Eric's sister when he called
to inform her of Eric's death.
At that point, it had not been discovered that Eric had died as a result of three.
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Again, yet is undiscovered, gunshot wounds to the head.
Strangely though, he told her that there were no exit wounds.
Maybe he meant something else.
What else could you mean?
Right, exactly.
I was speaking to the house.
Like no one broke it.
I don't see any broken windows for someone to get out.
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We don't actually put all those exit wounds.
We don't call those exit wounds.
No.
So the house.
I was being facetious, but I really enjoyed that you played that up with me.
Thank you.
That was fun.
That was fun for us.
Maybe he really was aware of a secret battle that Eric had been fighting with depression.
And that's why he believed that Eric had died by suicide.
It's totally reasonable.
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Yeah.
Right.
I mean, it happens.
It sure does.
But then again, though Dixon had claimed that they were very close, other family members
and friends of Eric claimed that that was not the case.
Some of them didn't even know who he was until after Eric's death.
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Don Dixon.
Who does Don Dixon?
New number.
Who died?
Don Dixon was also the one to discover Eric, dead in his home, which was only possible
as he'd entered the home using a key, which people didn't know he had, or that he existed.
It's not necessarily a crime to make someone out to have been a closer friend than they really
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were, but does seem a little suspicious.
Starting to think, did he ever produce this key?
Well, he would have, I mean, to get into the house he would have had to have had the key.
Once he picked the lock.
I don't know.
Like, did he ever give the key to the evidence collectors?
We're doing great.
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The police.
The investigators.
Yeah.
Did the investigators like ask him, like, "Hey, show me this key that you used."
I don't know.
It's unclear that that was ever like fact-checked, substantiated.
Or he found like the high to key or something.
I don't know.
I'm starting to feel what you're feeling.
Yeah.
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A lot of questions.
Yeah.
Okay.
Don Dixon's test results from an independently administered polygraph were inconclusive.
According to the Sheriff's Department, they couldn't even establish a baseline, which
is not great.
Yeah, so like a...
I read like somebody who might be trying to obfuscate the test, but I've never seen...
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Oh, God, what is the name of that movie?
I'm just asking questions.
Hmm.
I don't know.
Sounds like something you say a lot though.
Chris and I say that to each other all the time because it's this movie.
Oh, my God.
I'm going to have to pull up a clip.
Okay.
I forget what it's called, but she's a really funny actress and comedian.
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And she's playing like this super tropey, like Fox News, fucking type of character.
And she'll do...
She'll like ask these questions that are like so clearly inflammatory or like just ridiculous.
And then she'll be like, I'm just asking questions.
Right.
It's so good.
It's so good.
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It's so good.
Oh.
With as much confounding evidence or perhaps more accurately lack thereof and conflicting
statements being made as rumors world, it's no wonder that the case garnered some intense
interest both from the public and also some pretty serious media attention.
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The case was featured on unsolved mysteries after crime victim advocate Jackie Hansen helped
the family draft letters requesting the show's assistance by spotlighting the case.
Holy guacamole.
That's right.
That's really cool.
I might have seen this.
Good.
You know the funny thing is this was I was so fucking mad and Chris got involved and then
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he was like, I'm fucking mad.
What?
So there's like eight thousand episodes, not literally, but there's a lot.
You know which one you can't, you can't watch anymore just ceases to exist on God's greener
than the internet.
This one.
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Mm-hmm.
They link to it.
You know what comes up?
Totally different fucking episode.
What?
We both tried it from multiple devices multiple different times.
They link the wrong apps.
Oh, good.
There's no way to just like search the name and unsolved mysteries and have it
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tell you what episode it is.
Oh my god.
Why didn't I think of that?
No, I'm saying I literally went to the unsolved mysteries catalog.
Multiple different catalogs in fact with the episode number and the episode that shows
up the one that's there.
It's not the right one.
Oh no.
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It has this name in the episode description.
Oh, that's odd.
If anybody finds it, I'd be.
I'm sure like to watch it.
Can you write like write them an email?
Yeah.
Everyone email unsolved mysteries.
Where is this episode?
The Hood River district attorney made statements that he was pleased that the case would
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receive high profile exposure.
Because what the fuck else do you say?
You sure about that?
Yeah.
Sure about that.
They're going to see all your fuck ups.
Yeah.
And technically he hadn't fucked up yet.
He just gets to be the public face of the botched investigation.
Right.
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Exactly.
Like you were taking, you're the face.
You're responsible.
Yeah.
In most jurisdictions, DA and Sheriff are elected positions.
So it's not a great look.
Yeah.
Let's talk about the fourth suspect.
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Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
Who seems far less frequently discussed?
Which actually makes him more interesting.
Hmm.
Through the course of the investigation, it came to light that Diana Anderson had an ex-boyfriend
with a history of stalking behavior.
She was the last person to have seen Erica live.
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And though obviously she was cleared of any involvement, she was at his home late into
the night when they heard some odd noises.
They even believed her and Eric that night thought somebody.
It seems like somebody is trying to mess with us.
Yeah.
I mean, it seems like if someone's clearly tapping on the door, ringing the bell, like that's
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not just a branch, you know?
Yep.
Is it possible that a jealous, perhaps even deeply disturbed ex-boyfriend, might have decided
to take out a romantic rival?
I mean, sure.
Almost anything seems plausible at this point, really.
He told me aliens did it.
I'd say they don't have enough evidence to prove that they didn't.
I mean, he could have just been there stalking them and then someone else came and murdered
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that Eric later.
I mean, super unlucky.
Yeah.
It would make more sense for that type of person to be ringing the bell and disappearing
in an attempt to disrupt their evening that night than a typical teenage prankster,
just given the remoteness of the home.
Because I don't think that Ding Dong ditching when your neighbor lives like a mile down the
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road is kind of a weird choice, but I guess not a lot to do in a small town.
There's not very much information available pertaining to this theory.
If one enforcement has looked into this as you would hope, they've kept that information
close.
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I'm not even sure that we know the name of the ex-boyfriend.
Oh wow.
Like the public.
I'm sure the police do.
Right.
Maybe.
Who knows?
It's hard to say what they know and don't know at this point.
Oh, God.
Initially, Tamiyasu family offered up a $5,000 reward for information in the case, eventually
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upping it to $10,000, but still the case has remained unsolved.
Given that fact, it can come as no surprise that the Tamiyasu family has been vocal about
their frustration of how the case was handled from the very beginning.
After learning that the bed where her brother, Eric, died, had been burned, Ramona questioned
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what she felt was a hasty move, very possibly resulting in important clues literally going
up in flames.
The DA has stated confidently that the crime scene was processed correctly enough—exquise
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me—correctly enough for a case to stand up in court.
Despite the loss of potential evidence and the delays in processing that Sheriff Wompler
pointed to budget cuts to explain, only the delays in processing forensic evidence.
The budget cuts weren't responsible for the burning of the mattress.
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I can't believe that they said enough.
Correctly enough.
That's what I want.
If my family member is murdered, if I'm murdered—correctly enough to do.
I can go to court.
Do we have enough evidence to do anything?
Maybe.
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I just—yeah.
These are things that men said out loud to other people.
I also had a thought too, like what if he had had like hidden money in his mattress or
like family heirlooms because I don't know, people do that.
Yeah.
That's not your property to be destroying.
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Hold that thought.
Okay.
Furthermore, Suol, who is—that's the name of the DA, Suol.
That's his last name.
Suol.
Okay.
The DA stated that all forensic evidence was gathered, including the bedding prior to
the mattress itself being burned, despite the fact that given the condition of the body
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law enforcement would not be aware Eric had been shot until roughly a day and a half later,
it's like they collected all of the evidence.
Except the mattress.
Why would they— technically they did collect it.
Okay.
They just incinerated it after they collected it.
Or they were saying that it was nothing suspicious, so why were they collecting evidence even if
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they didn't think anything was suspicious?
Because it's death.
Okay.
And they do that, but they don't.
Because you're supposed to presume until—
It's like they did, but they didn't, but they didn't.
Yeah.
Quite literally.
It's unclear what, if any, professional repercussions, Sheriff Wompler faced related to mistakes made in
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the case, though he did express his regrets repeatedly.
Ramona filed complaints regarding the destruction of private property and the Sheriff's office paid
for a replacement bed.
Wompler stating, "I take full responsibility for getting rid of the mattress, and it is a
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practice this office will not do again."
Alternately he was quoted as saying, "I probably wouldn't do that again."
I'm like, "Wait.
You just said we won't do it again."
Is this the same guy who said good enough?
No.
Oh, different guy.
That's still.
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Yeah.
But still, like, why are these people just like, like, non-challantly talking about this?
Yeah.
They probably wouldn't do that again.
It's good enough.
Yeah.
I mean, to be fair, sometimes he says, "I take full responsibility and it is a practice
this office will not do again."
Okay.
Unless he says the other thing where he's like, "Probably wouldn't maybe, props us.
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Props us."
Additionally, as you might imagine, the rumors that hit his world about an affair took
a toll on his personal relationships as well.
How could it not?
The complar was also quoted as saying, "The last rumor has been the hardest because it
has caused embarrassment and hurt for my wife when she has done nothing to deserve those
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aspersions."
Which, fair, detective, Gary, Jerry, Tiffany, detective, Jerry, Tiffany, sorry, Jerry, and
DA Soule have independently stated that most of the rumors surrounding the case can be
traced back to, I guess, Don Dixie.
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Himself a person of interest in the case, somewhere in the course of the investigation,
as too often happens, the story has become honestly more about opposing suspects in the case
than about the actual victim.
It's far too easy a trap to set and snap.
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Maybe while Alice mere mortals are left chasing her tails, just gonna throw this out there.
Okay, picture it.
Eric's spirit is perched up on a beautiful tree, enjoying the fruits of generations of the
family's labor.
What began as a strawberry and asparagus farm eventually became an orchard.
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The first fruit trees planted by Eric's grandfather in the 1930s.
The orchard is now run by Eric's sister Ramona and her husband.
This case fucking sucks.
But I'm just gonna say the cheesy thing that I put in my notes.
Maybe there's still room for growth if we learn at least one thing from this story.
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Not to burn the mattress.
Jesus Christ.
Don't burn the fucking mattress.
Leave it alone.
But even then, would they have cared enough to even solve it if there were evidence in the
mattress or whatever?
I mean, it didn't seem like they cared a whole lot.
I mean, I think the problem is that beyond the mattress, there wasn't a lot that they could
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point to in terms of forensic evidence and a lot of...
There was just so much finger pointing.
You know, and I think whoever did this did a good enough job of not leaving enough of
a trail and then the focus just went to trying to identify who the best suspect was.
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And there's just...
Who knows?
I mean, I feel like there's more than one fairly reasonable theory, but I don't know
if we'll ever know.
And maybe the mattress didn't have any real probative value.
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I don't know.
That's a point.
Yeah, we don't know.
We don't know.
It's just...
Let's just all not burn anything from what I'm seeing.
Yeah.
Just in case.
Yep.
Let's do better than good enough.
Look at that.
We learned one thing.
We did.
We did learn.
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We learned a lot of things from you, but I feel like that's one of the most important.
Yeah.
I just...
It's so infuriating.
That and don't trust anyone named Don Dixon.
I felt like that without saying, "Did you need me to say that?"
Well, I don't know.
Should we do some tarot?
Yeah, let's do some tarot.
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Okay.
I really want to go to an orchard.
I know.
Just like hang out.
I feel like if we can do a trip out this way, it's not that far of a drive for us someday.
Do we go find a orchard?
Do we look orchard?
Oh, yeah.
And they still...
I have a little bit of information about the families, orchards and stuff.
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So I don't know.
We have a couple of Patreon mini-sodes to get through, but I don't know.
I feel like it would be fun to just kind of...
I want to tell you more things.
Okay.
Yeah.
So hopefully we can knock that bad boy out.
We'll do that someday.
Yeah.
Maybe we do some things that we say we're going to do.
All right.
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Let's do it.
Okay.
Let's do tarot.
Okay.
Wait.
Before we do tarot, you got to open your little gifty.
I just wanted to start by saying that we realized this episode was coming out Valentine's
week.
Yeah.
Happy V-Day.
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Yes.
Sad.
Very sad.
I know.
What a topic to have chosen.
But it kind of fit because we talked about the beginning how they were DTR-ing, you know,
defining the relationship.
True.
Yeah.
I thought there was a connection there, but since it was so sad, I just wanted to make us feel
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a little better, make Killing feel a little better because she brings us sad topics and she
knows you do all the research and you see, we talked about it before you filter for us
and you see like the worst of the worst.
I want to make you feel better.
And thank you for torturing us every other week-ish.
You're welcome.
Shall we cheer?
Yeah.
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Let's cheer and open your little gifty.
I got you.
Okay.
Okay.
Torturing her because she's like unbelievably afraid to have something happen with these
glasses or the electronics from the liquid in the glasses.
So I'm famously not good with the long stem.
I'm shaking.
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Actually did have a cortado today.
So oh.
And you have my last time, yeah.
I had one yesterday.
Oh, they're so good.
They're really good.
I heard the brown sugar.
Oh, no, one.
Oh, I think I just got a plane.
I think I might have just gotten a plane one.
I'm out of plane.
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She good.
But the brown sugar.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm going to have to try that.
And our wine is like an orange wine.
Oh, anyway.
Open your present.
Oh, right.
Okay.
Okay.
Oh.
This is how you know someone loves you.
Seriously.
Whenever Chris brings these home, I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm married that man.
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Fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
Okay.
They're Valentine nerd clusters.
Nerds for a nerd.
Am I right?
So I knew those would make you feel better.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay.
Well, we have to get through this year.
Oh, reading because I got to go eat a case of dillar.
And now, like what is today?
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I don't know.
Just food being put in front of me right before a microphone.
Maybe we should start a mukbang.
Okay.
No comments.
That would have to definitely be charged for.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's not free.
That's paid a play.
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My dude.
Okay.
All right.
Ooh, she purred it.
Okay.
So I'll flip it right side up just so that everybody can see it.
Oh, the moon.
Right in front of my face.
Did you kiss it?
I feel like I made kind of a duck sound as I was doing the, because if you can't see it,
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it's a duck on the card.
I realize recently we've been kind of bad about describing what we're doing.
Do you want me to set it?
Oh, sure.
We've been kind of bad about describing what we're doing because we are on video now.
So it's like, we can see it.
And then we kind of forget other people can't.
Yeah, we forgot where we came from.
You know, it's an audio medium.
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You said reverse, right?
Yes.
Okay.
I feel like everything is in reverse for me.
My brain is still not really braining.
I have a fun little story of what we did last night.
And in hindsight, considering how much my brain was just not braining, it's a little
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bit scary that I did it.
Okay.
Wow.
Okay.
I tried turning to page 18 because it's the 18th card.
And I was like, what the shit?
That's not the right page.
Okay.
Now we're on the right page.
Okay.
All right.
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Well, here we go.
Yeah.
No, I'm telling you, my brain is really having a tough time.
Minus, too.
Yeah.
I'll explain later.
All right.
Keywords for the moon.
The moon.
The moon.
Intuition, the unconscious mystery, illusion and secrets.
Well, there was certainly a lot of that happening in this story.
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Yeah.
Okay.
I am going to kind of skip through.
I know we've read a lot about the, in this first section of our interpretation book,
it usually talks a lot about the writer, Wait Smith.
When we've read this card several times, I'm going to skip it because it does, I don't
think it really applies.
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We're using a non-traditional deck.
So I'm going to get into the tail end here and then we'll read the interpretation.
Unless something like really specific jumps out like about the imagery, then we don't
really need to like read the description of the card.
Yeah.
Sometimes it does though.
Yeah.
Trying to pick and choose a little bit.
And this is our P&W deck.
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So it's, you know, I'll look up what kind of duck it is afterwards.
Yes.
Way most.
The water suggests the moon's link with the emotions and the unconscious realm.
The moon urges you to pay more attention to your inner self, your lunar self.
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The light of the sun enables us to see the world around us.
But the moon allows us to illuminate what springs naturally from inside us.
Okay.
There's some extra excerpts in here.
So we'll decide if we want to read those or not.
I think it's kind of funny that the moon is like emotions and feelings and then you put
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the sign out.
This is ask me about my feelings and we literally got like the feelings card.
Well, and as you were showing me the different options for the sign, I read it as don't ask
me about my feelings, which is sounds like it.
Well, it's like that thing where if letters are reversed in a word, your brain will still
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fill in and you can read things oftentimes that are misspelled.
If it's like close enough, that's what my brain did.
It was like close enough.
The moon card is sometimes linked with deceit and self deception, disappointment and undoing.
Usually because you weren't listening to that still small voice within.
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When this card appears reversed, it may advise you to tie up loose ends connected to the past,
especially to your mother or other women.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, very interesting.
The first part of that though, like tying ends from your past reminds me you said that she
had a boyfriend that was like possibly stalking them.
Yeah, yeah, the ex boyfriend.
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Yeah, I definitely, that's kind of the energy that I was picking up as well.
And like, we don't know when it happened.
Or maybe we do.
What?
I just assumed it happened like at night time.
Oh, yes.
No, it was night time.
Yeah.
We got the moon.
Yeah.
The moon.
In a reading about money, you may feel incapable of handling a financial matter.
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It's because you can't see what's really going on or you're too emotionally involved in
this situation to be objective.
This isn't the best time to make a major decision.
Ups and downs are likely now.
Try not to let them throw you into a panic.
Hmm.
Hmm.
This card can also indicate buying stuff as a way to pinch hit or genuine emotion or happiness.
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It's interesting.
Okay.
If the reading is about your job, a secret or hidden situation may come to light.
Interesting.
Oh, the scandal.
Yes.
The scandal alleged.
Yes.
One of the many alleged scandals.
Yes.
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This card can also point to an emotional, uncertain, changing work environment where nothing
is clear.
Perhaps you've let the pressures of the outside world throw you off balance and you feel disconnected
from your true self.
That kind of reminds me of like letting Don Dixon convince you to burn a mattress.
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Oh, that is a really good point.
My head didn't really go there, but I feel like that fits.
That's interesting.
In a reading about love, you've probably deluded yourself about a partner or relationship.
Okay.
I'm getting next boyfriend vibes again.
Or you may be attempting to cast yourself in an unreal light in order to win someone's
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affection.
Things are not what they seem.
Deceit, manipulation or inconsistency may cause problems.
Hmm.
That's interesting.
Like all of Don's stories and how.
Deceit, manipulation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause there's no problems.
I mean, he certainly has not been charged with a crime in relation to Eric's death, but
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so much of what he said that kind of had investigators looking at, oh, is this a possible
motive?
Is this a possible suspect?
None of that could be verified.
Yeah.
It just seemed like a very manipulative.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, maybe it's a coincidence, but.
Yes.
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There is an extra excerpt.
I don't feel as though it has a tie in and there are two other ones that I want to skim through
to see if there's something we should read.
But this extra excerpt at the end of the reverse interpretation is the triple goddess.
And remember, there's kind of, I would say, like the long, held, potential suspects.
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There's three of them.
Oh.
I don't know.
They're not goddesses, though.
No, certainly not.
Oh, it's a Pacific loon.
Oh, okay.
Duck loons.
I mean, that makes sense for like nighttime because aren't loons, nighttime ducks.
Nighttime ducks.
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Loons.
Let's just say it in loons.
Nighttime ducks.
Night.
And.
Oh.
I thought.
Loons sound like that.
Oh.
Do they?
I mean, they make like a crying sound, like a moaning cry.
I did not know this.
We should look up the sound of a loon.
Oh.
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Okay, there is, I'll read this when looking for adventure in a dark and deserted landscape.
Okay.
I realize as I'm saying it out loud, that feels a little connected.
Dark.
But it's, I wouldn't say deserted more rural, rural, rural.
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We should only ask for the light of the moon.
Then our imaginations can create more exotic explanations for the rustling in the undergrowth
or the dark parentheses, bottomless question mark voids, which open up ahead of us.
Ooh.
Okay.
It just reminds me of whoever was like speaking out.
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Yeah.
Like around the house and they like from that footprint, right?
Yes.
The one foot.
The one foot.
We comfort ourselves too much with light.
Sometimes we must wander in the dark so that our other senses can find their full expression.
And we hear more clearly the message of the night, the wilderness and the strange creatures
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that inhabit the unseen spaces.
Wow.
Like a loon.
Like a loon.
They just get almost like when they're putting together like these special tarot decks, like
they really put a lot of thought into like what animal goes on it.
Because they get a lot of them completely so connected with even though it's not a traditional
imagery on the deck, like just the word A is so connected with whatever animal.
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I can cut.
Which it's, I like that.
I love that.
Yeah.
Someone get my modicle.
Oh, this is interesting.
Most of the keywords are the same, but there's one in here that says vagueness and misconceptions.
Okay.
Instability, anxiety and security.
Yeah.
I mean, those all make sense.
Yeah, totally.
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I don't know.
I think sometimes it's like we will look at a glance at the keywords and say, oh, you know,
they're basically the same or whatever.
But I think sometimes words that are synonymous, they're not exactly the same.
They have kind of different connotations.
I feel like I'm always glad when we kind of read through and find something that maybe
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it expands a little bit.
Yeah.
I don't think your vagueness was like, no, it just reminded me of like, oh, good enough.
Well, and they feel like there's something about like where it's talking about sort of mystery
and darkness that implies sort of like a murky or, you know, vagueness.
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But yeah, just really screamed like just, yeah, we did a good enough job collecting the evidence.
That was what they said, right?
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm hard to forget that, turn of frames.
Okay.
This is very short.
Okay.
It's breeding season.
And the moon lays her two eggs, two gray, green, speckled orbs, each a perfect image of
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the other.
Her nest floats upon the mirror of the lake.
Oh, they're nest float.
That is, that's like, I was starting to think about that.
That's why I got thrown off.
That's very interesting.
Okay.
Her nest floats upon the mirror of the lake, a surface identical in color to the night sky.
That's pretty cool.
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Yeah.
Looking deeper, dipping her head below and then back above, then below again, the moon
dies into the gray, green glow of the moon reflected.
The gray, green, green, the light.
I can't even say it again.
No, never again.
She resurfaces with her catch and floats on the veil midway between two luminous speckled
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orbs, each the perfect image of the other.
Hmm.
You know what that makes me think of?
I mean, it's a little bit, it kind of is, I don't know, it's all interpretation.
So I guess, take it for what it is.
But that kind of makes me think of, like, these are two, like, really good friends, right,
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that have sort of, like, just, I don't know, in a weird way, it just reminds me of, like,
sort of their bond and how it started off as, you know, a friendship and now it's like,
become more romantic.
I don't know.
That makes any sense.
Or kind of, it made me kind of also think of, like, his family that had, like, the farm
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and, yeah, you talked about his family, right?
Yeah.
I don't know why, just like the mother with her eggs and, like, I don't know.
There's definitely really strong feminine energy that it seems like plays into this card
and into the reading.
So that's interesting.
The moon, yes, very feminine.
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It makes sense because there were multiple women that were involved, even just tangentially,
because I was going to say part of the interpretation also reminded me of, like, speaking of shit
that Dawn said that may or may not be true.
Like, think about the sheriff's wife.
It's like, I mean, yeah, I would reverse a small place.
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I'm sure she had met Eric, but like, wow, to just have this rumor start.
That was, you know, one thing that the sheriff said, like, yeah, that was kind of the, one
of the difficult aspects of, and like, the most difficult of the rumors for him to kind
of, like, process and deal with.
Because it's like, well, yeah, I mean, if she wasn't doing anything, you know, nefarious,
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then, you know, it's just, that shitty.
You're just drawn into this?
And it's, I don't know.
It goes back to what I was saying about, like, this is a personal tragedy, you know, that
Eric has passed and for his family.
And then to have that sort of just become about these other characters that, like, maybe
didn't, you know, like small town, but like, she, I'm sure she knew him, but maybe not
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even that well.
Yeah.
And suddenly we're talking about her.
Like, yeah, not, not any fault of her own that, you know, that we know of, but, you
know, yeah.
Yeah, probably not.
Like, oh, wow.
Well, that was cool.
Yeah.
I really like to that it's like Hood River, and then we got like a water card.
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Yeah.
Should we do that thing?
Yeah, let's do it.
We hope everyone has like a really good Valentine's Day.
Obviously, whether you celebrate or not, you can have a gallon times.
You could just, I was just going to say, Valentine's, Galantines, nothing at all.
Valentine's Day.
Yeah.
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Actually, creepy Valentine's Day.
Yeah, maybe don't.
Be safe.
Yeah.
Give your friends your location if you're going on a date.
Just, yeah.
I don't care how long you've known them.
If you're married, I don't care.
Give your friends your fucking location because like, the husband probably didn't.
I mean, let's face it.
What has been to that, you know, I guess that goes from men too.
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If you're a man too, give your friends your location.
No one is safe.
Yeah.
Nothing and no one is safe or should ever be trusted.
Okay, bye.
Bye.
I love you.
I'm surprised.
We can be trusted.
Right.
Okay.
I'm going to be under my blankie here.
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Hopefully I don't have to take my hands out.
I, yeah, I don't know.
We'll see.
What do you need my hands for?
Couldn't tell you.
They're busy under my blanket.
Let me know.
Alrighty.
Well, maybe we'll just have an impromptu hand check, shall we?
Hand check.
They're just cold, you guys.
They're just cold.
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She's so cold.
That's why you made me a blanket.
That's true.
It's quite literally true.
once. Quite literally true. (pnwhauntsandhomicides.com)
Well look at that, this fucking guy, Don Dixon, after the helpful friend following his
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unfortunate discovery shared something else of interest regarding Eric's private life,
but he thought my provide illumination in the case.
He said that Eric had recently told him about a new relationship that he had struck up,
supposedly with a Polynesian woman, who happened to be married.
Oh no!
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Hi Cassie.
Hi Caitlyn.
Hi Creepy people.
Oh hello!
This is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where...
What is it that we do again?
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I'm just kidding.
We chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest.
Or the PNW.
If you're nasty.
Oh, we did that good.
That was good.
I didn't know you were joining me.
I felt I was feeling it.
I feel like that's probably about the same as when you're in one of those churches, you
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know, and people feel the spirit.
I felt your spirit, for sure, your nasty spirit.
My nice spirit.
What else do we do here?
Oh, I think we do some tarot reading at the end of every episode.
For a little deeper insight into our topic.
All right.
Should we get into it?
I...
Yeah.
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Let's do it.
I'm ready.
Let's go.
Okay, great.
Your enthusiasm is as per usual underwhelming.
Eric Tamiyasu was born November 23rd, 1959, to parents Mitsugi, who went by mits,
and Jinko Jean Kiyomura.
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Tamiyasu.
JNCO Jeans?
Isn't that like a thing?
That's...
Yeah.
It's going to take a lot to get me out of that.
Luckily, I think I'm going to refer to her as Jean, which was what she went by.
Okay.
I like the Mitsy.
What is it, Mits?
Mits.
Not Mitsy, that's a cat name.
But like...
Yeah.
Or, or, or, or, or, or, or, mitsie kind of has a little bit of a feminine air to it.
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And Mits.
Mits is.
Eric's dad.
Okay.
Mits was born and raised in Hood River, a graduate of Hood River High School in 1941.
Wow.
Yeah.
Probably not a lot of people out there in 1941.
No.
And...
Do two events?
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Sometimes there would be less people.
Do you remember anything about the '40s?
World War II?
Yes.
I'm so good.
Only because we've talked about it recently in a bunch of episodes for some reason.
We sure have.
Yeah.
I think we've discussed.
World War II is sort of like my Roman Empire sometimes.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Anyways, that one war.
During World War II, mits and his family were forcibly relocated like many other Asian Americans.
That old thing.
That old thing.
They were halted camps in both Wyoming and California.
When they were eventually released, the family returned to their family orchard in Hood River.
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Oh, an orchard.
Yeah.
Because Hood River is like the fruity place.
It's the fruit loop and stuff.
Yes.
I want to focus on the good stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well.
Yeah.
I'm coming in hot with not a lot of good stuff and I'm going to be honest.
This is I went back story and I was looking for some good, good folksy, awesome stuff and
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it's there.
And then it's also real dark.
This is also where mits met and fell in love with Jean Kiyomera who herself was an
organ native born in Portland.
Our family had also endured internment during the war at Minidoka in Idaho.
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Have we talked about that place before?
Yeah.
Okay.
That sounds really familiar.
I thought that might ring a bell.
Yeah.
Unfortunately.
Shortly after she graduated from high school and the family was released, she went to work
as a nurse for Shriners Children's Hospital in Minnesota.
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Okay.
Despite the harsh realities, they had faced during wartime.
Both were young people who seemingly went on to thrive and give much of themselves to
those around them.
Aww.
I mean, a nurse at a children's hospital.
Seriously.
Yeah.
It's unclear from my research what eventually brought her back to the state of Oregon, but
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once she made her way, the couple quickly united in a whirlwind romance.
Oh, I love a good whirlwind.
I know.
In the post-World War II era.
Oh.
Say World War II whirlwind romance.
Five times as.
I barely said it one time.
Thank you very much.
Thank you and good night.
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The pair started a family and went on to have four children.
Stan, Eric, Teresa, and Ramona.
Jean seemed to revel in their fruitful life, tending to their children as well as orchard
with her husband and some of their extended family.
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Having access to all of the finest fresh fruit one could want, led to legendary expertise
in making her own jams, jellies, and particularly pies.
I was literally thinking about like jam, jam.
She was an accomplished woman when it came to traditional endeavors and homemaking and
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child rearing, but she was also passionate about her more leisurely endeavors like Cross stitch,
playing the piano, and she was also a serious Portland Trailblazers fan.
Wow.
I know.
Super wholesome.
I know.
And it's interesting because some of her hobbies in particular reminded me so much of Chris's
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mom all across stitch the Blazers adorable.
I love it.
She also kept in touch with many friends from all over by sending letters in her beautiful
curse of handwriting.
Oh, look at good handwritten letter.
I know.
I have terrible handwriting.
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So I'll bring you a letter and I'll make it smell real nice, but it's not going to look great.
I mean, it might look great in the sense that do you enjoy gel pens?
I mean, yeah, the shimmery kind.
Oh, hell yeah.
For sure.
Mm-hmm.
If you have bad hand, or you have to write in a gel pen, it's the law.
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I think so.
Yeah.
The tone is about to shift.
And we're not even really getting to the sad sad.
Sad sad.
There's more sad than just normal sad.
There's actually just layers of sad.
Oh, yeah.
I thought, let me open this with something light.
How about a little bit of a chat about, I don't know, something casual like jams and jellies
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and, you know, the government forcibly in turning its own citizens.
Yeah, that's disgusting.
I hate it.
That's the light part.
Jean passed away at age 88 in May of 2013, just two years after her husband.
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They both seemed to have lived very full lives and both passed in May just two years and a
handful of days apart.
Though myths would live 80 of his 88 years in the very same house that he grew up in, his
life was far from doldrum.
They both died at 88 also.
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Oh, my gosh.
I know it took me a little bit as I was reading through the information about both of them
and, you know, their lives and then their passing.
And I was like, are you kidding me?
It's very notebook.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like, same month, two years apart, same age.
And I was in that strange, but it's very strange.
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First off, if nothing else, there's a bizarre synchronicity of their passing.
But myths actually died on Friday the 13th.
Wow.
A very lucky day, but we died on it, so I know.
I just think it gives real bad ass vibes, you know.
But getting back to the land of the living, myths traveled abroad extensively with his beloved
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local lions club, enjoyed foraging, fishing, and even collected antiques.
Kind of a cool gay.
Haunted antiques?
I don't think so.
Can we turn this into ghosts?
He was an active community member and a friend to many, frequently sporting a jauntie hat,
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as well as a cigar and a smile.
What is a jauntie hat?
I think it just means like he just was like very casual about how he wore it.
I'm not totally clear on that.
A jauntie hat.
Yes.
I do have some pictures of him and I think it's an apt description, but I'm picturing
one of the hats with like the helicopters on it.
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No.
I'm stuck on his head just to twirl and I think maybe a skew is a good way to describe it,
but I don't recall seeing a helicopter.
That's just what I'm thinking in my mind.
You know this little helicopter hat, you know what I'm talking about?
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
It's just a doesn't apply.
By contrast, there's on the Eric at 41 years old, though he shared his father's occupation
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as an orchardist and the general good-naturedness of both of his parents, it seemed he was more
reserved.
I think that's why at least in part, so much of the focus on this family and Eric in particular
has to do primarily with the strange circumstances surrounding his 2001 death rather than the beautiful
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tapestry of the lives that they all led.
On 25th, 2001, Eric and his longtime friend Diana Anderson have been spending the evening
together at his home, which happened to be located within a fairly isolated area of Hood
River.
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Though the two had been very good friends for some time, they had met that evening with
the intention of discussing their relationship as it seemed that they had developed romantic
feelings for each other.
Oh, they got a DTR.
Wait, what's DTR?
Define the relationship.
Oh, duh.
It looked to be the start of a new phase in life.
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One that might mean a serious relationship, though they considered that evening to be their
first official date.
Oh, yeah.
Very sweet.
Very sweet and awesome.
At first.
Well, at Eric's home that evening, the couple had heard tapping sounds outside and felt like
the sounds were emanating from the area of the front door.
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Upon inspection after the doorbell rang, no one appeared to be outside.
But there was reportedly a lone chuprint present somewhere outside.
Okay.
So tapping on the front door.
Doorbell.
Yeah, and then one chuprint.
So someone's hopping around.
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Yeah.
pogo sticking it.
This was troubling to Diana as she drove home and has no doubt continued to puzzle her
in the day's sense as the last person to see Eric alive.
Oh, no.
After he was murdered in his own home execution style, nearly a week went by before anyone
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was concerned about his absence, concerned enough that they actually went to check on him.
And even what's her name Diana?
Is that her name?
Yeah, it's kind of unusual, I think, but I mean, yeah.
What was normal for their relationship, but that seems like a while.
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There's a lot of discourse about that, to be honest.
And I think just based on the fact that it was 2001, texting wasn't really as common.
Yeah.
So it's true.
You might not hear from a friend for a week at a time and that probably wouldn't have
been all that unusual.
I think they just like DTR.
Yeah.
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You think you would be like, you cited and want to see the person every day, but.
Right.
Or like, at least hear from them.
Yeah.
So you know that it didn't get weird.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Like, who called you?
Yeah.
It's hard to be a woman.
Sure is.
On June 30, Don Dixon stopped by to check on him as no one in his life had heard from him
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recently.
Conveniently, he had a key, reportedly to the back door.
I'm not sure if this is something that's mentioned specifically because there were multiple
different keys for entry to his home or if it's some sort of weird underhanded or almost
Freudian way of insinuating something else.
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I'm not even sure what that would be exactly.
It just feels.
If I'm like, um, poking, I'm poking on that, I feel like he had the key to his back door.
That kind of thing.
I don't think so.
I don't even know that that would be.
No.
It's just weird.
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And it's actually the whole thing about the key is just weird and maybe that's what I'm
picking up.
We're going to, we'll talk about the key.
Okay.
Yeah.
It just feels like there's something there and.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know how say I lived in has a different key for the back door.
So I've not personally experienced that.
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Just because I just seemed odd.
Does he only want hit like is that only giving him access to a certain part of the house?
Like, what does that mean?
Maybe they didn't use the front door.
I, you know, so many questions, but obviously they someone, someone tried to do something to
the front.
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They knocked.
They bring the belt.
I.
So many questions.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe that's not that weird.
Seems weird.
But like you bring that up and you think it's like really weird and I'm like, oh yeah, last
house I lived in had a different key for the back door.
Thanks a lot, asshole.
Sorry.
It's just my life experience.
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Yeah.
Nope.
I mean, it is, that is interesting because I feel like I thought that's odd.
I don't think that's necessarily like a typical thing, but it certainly wasn't beyond
the realm of possibility.
I just was like, what does that mean?
Yeah.
Anyway.
I don't know.
Amongst other questions that can't be answered.
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Wait, I have one more question.
What?
What if it was just, it was just a key to the back door, you know that for sure?
Or was it just like he just went in the back door?
I don't even know.
That's the thing.
I'm like, what are they trying to say with this?
Like, maybe because like, maybe there was a dead bolt on the back door.
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And he only had the key that like unlocked like the bottom lock.
I don't know.
Who knows, we get stuck on the weirdest shit, but we really, yeah.
Trust me, I was real stuck on it and it's not even an interesting aspect of the case overall.
Right.
Can't choose when the hyper focus activates.
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Clearly.
Right.
Last time I learned a lot about heraldry.
We have driven back.
The nature of their relationship would be called into question later.
And I can't help but think that the rumor mill might have gone into overdrive, which is
actually the understatement of probably my week.
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Because remember what I was saying about rumors, right?
tying our two episodes together.
Yeah.
Oh boy.
Okay.
Dixon readily identified an odor upon entering the home.
And when he eventually discovered Eric's decomposing body, he quickly called 911.
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That wasn't the only call that was made.
Though it's not entirely clear which call occurred first, either to 911 or the call I'm about
to describe.
I think 911 first.
There's a lot of discrepancies or things that are unspecified.
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Eric's sister stated that in a phone conversation with Dawn at some point after he discovered her
brother Eric's body in his home, Don told her that he did not see any exit wounds on
Eric's body.
You have the benefit of knowing that he was murdered in a style that is described as
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execution style.
But she found this very odd because they didn't know he had been shot.
Who didn't know?
No one.
Right.
But no one knew he had been shot.
But this guy goes in and saw his body.
Right.
And people that saw his body couldn't tell, could not tell.
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Interesting.
Don claimed that he believed Eric had died by suicide, explaining that was why he mentioned
potential exit wounds.
Which is interesting because people can die by suicide other than shooting themselves.
Yeah.
It had not been apparent when his body was initially discovered that Eric had been killed
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by three gunshot wounds to the head.
Law enforcement could not tell.
Apparently both law enforcement and the man claiming to be a close friend of Eric, Don
Dixon had no reason to suspect foul play.
Hood County Sheriff Joe Wompler reportedly approached Don Dixon questioning whether there
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was a burn pile on the property.
Oh, that is the correct response.
It's never good.
We also would have accepted what?
What?
Or, oh hell no.
Yeah.
I don't like to hear the word like murder and burn pile in the same situation.
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The same day.
No.
No.
He intended to use the burn pet as a means of disposal for the mattress in order to spare
Eric's family the grief of having to deal with it later.
Not your job.
Dixon was said to have agreed with this course of action at the time.
Oh, but he did.
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Okay.
In the many years since Eric's death, there have been a number of stories related about how
exactly this unfolded.
Some account state it was Don Dixon's idea to burn the mattress.
It's important to note here that some source material states that the mattress alone was
burned thereafter.
While others stated it was both the bed and the linens.
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I do believe that this is clarified in statements made by the DA that I will share a bit
later, assuming that you, you know, believe public statements made by the DA.
Hmm.
Certainly you wouldn't have any reason not to.
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I don't trust your face right now.
Not a face to be trusted.
It would be weird though to like burn the mattress and not the linens if your goal is to like
get rid of it.
So no one else has to take care of it.
Yeah.
And you don't think that death is suspicious at this point.
So why would you keep the linens, right?
What they insist.
Hmm.
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I don't know.
It's hard to say.
I'd like to show me the linens.
Where are the linens?
Where are the linens?
Though Dixon was certain that Eric was dead, he was quoted as saying of the discovery.
It was like he was in bed sleeping and he was shot.
There was no struggle.
One of the sheriff's deputies who reported to the scene, detective Gary Tiffany stated,
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Gary, Jerry, not really sure.
Don't really care.
Sorry.
Jerry or Gary?
Somebody came in here for the sole purpose of killing Eric.
They didn't steal anything.
They didn't take anything.
Heels were dundin' to say, but sorry.
I feel like a dick.
I don't know why.
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Jerry/Gary didn't really do anything wrong here so far as I can tell, but I'm just so fucking
angry.
If nothing was taken from the isolated home, it stood to reason that the primary motive for
entering the home was likely the murder.
The case took on a whole new dimension with the discovery of the gunshot wounds.
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It's remember they have no fucking idea this man was shot.
And they've already found his mattress.
But alas, what could have been critical forensic evidence in the case had already been lost
forever.
Because again, already burned it.
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How did they think he died?
There's gotta be blood.
He wasn't just, right?
He had blood in his body.
He did have blood in his body.
I obviously, because you said the mattress and like, I imagine...
I don't know how someone is shot in the head three times.
And that's completely escaping.
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There's complete visual field.
I have hurtive cases where they don't realize right away that the victim was shot.
But like, obviously killed in a something happened, man, or...
I just think we just have to treat all deaths as suspicious until proven otherwise.
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Right.
Like the opposite of...
Maybe wait for the autopsy.
I don't know.
Yeah.
At least.
It's a thought.
It's just very weird to like walk in and be like, "Oh, he's dead.
There's blood everywhere.
Doesn't look that suspicious."
I think if there had been blood everywhere.
Doesn't sound like there was.
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Don't know how that's possible.
I'm not sure.
A lot of questions.
That's the least of them.
According to Eric's family, he lived a quiet life with no apparent enemies or conflicts.
Three strong suspects in the case would emerge.
So there is a fourth potential suspect that some have speculated about.
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In no particular order, the first will discuss is Eric Smith.
It sounds like an alias, but it does infect his name.
Allegedly.
It actually is his name.
Oh, okay.
I'm just an asshole today.
While Eric's family didn't believe there were any issues between him with anyone, Don
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Dixon shared a conversation that he had reportedly overheard between Eric and his business partner,
also named Eric, which is unfortunate and confusing.
The pair ran a small car sales company together.
Eric T was our victim.
Okay.
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We're going to use initials.
Supposedly accused Eric Smith of embezzling money from their joint venture.
With the tune of about $60,000.
If there were any truth to this accusation made by Don Dixon, that could certainly go to
motive for Eric Smith in the killing.
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Oh, wait, this was Don Dixon's in, Paul.
Okay.
Got you.
I'm glad you're flagging that.
I flagged it.
I've put it in that.
Yeah, that's right.
Not just a hat, rag, my friend.
However, it does not seem to have ever been substantiated.
Each of the three suspects would eventually in turn take polygraph tests.
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While it cannot be said for all three suspects, Eric did pass.
Good job, Eric Smith.
Yeah.
Also, I mean, first, so many.
It was a long time ago, right?
No, it was 2001.
2001.
Well, it was kind of a long time ago.
That was kind of 24 years ago.
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Yeah.
It's basically like when I was born.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways, so he passed the polygraph for whatever that's worth.
Eric Smith has always denied that there was any issue between them regarding their business
or personal finances.
And all ones ever pointed to anything that proves that there were any issues or financial
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misdeeds or business disagreements or even a stubbed toe.
He said they were best friends and Eric T had even been the best man at his wedding.
Aww.
I mean, that doesn't necessarily mean you can't do something bad to your friend, but true.
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It's just if there's no evidence.
Yeah.
If that's the only evidence.
I don't trust a polygraph, but knowing what I do for my research about the suspect pool,
I just don't see Eric Smith as the most viable.
Well, look at that.
This fucking guy, Don Dixon, ever the helpful friend following his unfortunate discovery shared
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something else of interest regarding Eric's private life.
But he thought might provide illumination in the case.
Keep your mouth shut, Don.
Yeah.
Shut the fuck up, Don.
We have feelings about Don.
I don't even know why yet, but I just...
But can you...
Ready?
Why are we talking so fucking much about Don?
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Yeah.
With a fucking Don, even.
He said that Eric had recently told him about a new relationship that he had struck up,
supposedly with a Polynesian woman who happened to be married.
Oh no.
Well, look at that.
This fucking guy, Don Dixon, ever the helpful friend following his unfortunate discovery shared
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something else of interest regarding Eric's private life.
But he thought might provide illumination in the case.
However, Hood River being such a small town with a total population of about 6,000 people
at the time and the Polynesian population even smaller, some came to suspect this might
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have been none other than Sheriff Wompler's wife.
Not the Sheriff's wife.
Oh shit.
If the Sheriff's wife had indeed been having an affair with Eric, which no one believes,
or can substantiate in any way, except for Don, of course.
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Then perhaps the Sheriff had a motive to murder Eric.
That pains his decision to burn potential evidence in the case in a very different light.
Which...
Is fair?
It is weird.
That being said, it does not appear that this theory has ever come even remotely close to
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being substantiated.
See what I did there?
How I said, you could see...
You could see it in my eyes.
I'm trying to force out like the nice way to say...
Yeah.
Sheriff Wompler also passed the polygraph test that he was administered.
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Okay.
It's weird.
Didn't I say that three people took polygraph tests and two of them passed?
Hmm.
Who failed?
This seems like a door of the Explorer episode, like...
Don Dixon sure had a lot of theories about who might have had a motive for killing Eric.
Was he just a trusted friend trying to help investigators?
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Or was he a cold blooded killer trying to cast his vision on anyone and everyone else
to save his own skin?
Sounds like that's the one, that last one you said.
You'll recall the unusual statement that Don Dixon made to Eric's sister when he called
to inform her of Eric's death.
At that point, it had not been discovered that Eric had died as a result of three.
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Again, yet is undiscovered, gunshot wounds to the head.
Strangely though, he told her that there were no exit wounds.
Maybe he meant something else.
What else could you mean?
Right, exactly.
I was speaking to the house.
Like no one broke it.
I don't see any broken windows for someone to get out.
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We don't actually put all those exit wounds.
We don't call those exit wounds.
No.
So the house.
I was being facetious, but I really enjoyed that you played that up with me.
Thank you.
That was fun.
That was fun for us.
Maybe he really was aware of a secret battle that Eric had been fighting with depression.
And that's why he believed that Eric had died by suicide.
It's totally reasonable.
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Yeah.
Right.
I mean, it happens.
It sure does.
But then again, though Dixon had claimed that they were very close, other family members
and friends of Eric claimed that that was not the case.
Some of them didn't even know who he was until after Eric's death.
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Don Dixon.
Who does Don Dixon?
New number.
Who died?
Don Dixon was also the one to discover Eric, dead in his home, which was only possible
as he'd entered the home using a key, which people didn't know he had, or that he existed.
It's not necessarily a crime to make someone out to have been a closer friend than they really
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were, but does seem a little suspicious.
Starting to think, did he ever produce this key?
Well, he would have, I mean, to get into the house he would have had to have had the key.
Once he picked the lock.
I don't know.
Like, did he ever give the key to the evidence collectors?
We're doing great.
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The police.
The investigators.
Yeah.
Did the investigators like ask him, like, "Hey, show me this key that you used."
I don't know.
It's unclear that that was ever like fact-checked, substantiated.
Or he found like the high to key or something.
I don't know.
I'm starting to feel what you're feeling.
Yeah.
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A lot of questions.
Yeah.
Okay.
Don Dixon's test results from an independently administered polygraph were inconclusive.
According to the Sheriff's Department, they couldn't even establish a baseline, which
is not great.
Yeah, so like a...
I read like somebody who might be trying to obfuscate the test, but I've never seen...
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Oh, God, what is the name of that movie?
I'm just asking questions.
Hmm.
I don't know.
Sounds like something you say a lot though.
Chris and I say that to each other all the time because it's this movie.
Oh, my God.
I'm going to have to pull up a clip.
Okay.
I forget what it's called, but she's a really funny actress and comedian.
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And she's playing like this super tropey, like Fox News, fucking type of character.
And she'll do...
She'll like ask these questions that are like so clearly inflammatory or like just ridiculous.
And then she'll be like, I'm just asking questions.
Right.
It's so good.
It's so good.
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It's so good.
Oh.
With as much confounding evidence or perhaps more accurately lack thereof and conflicting
statements being made as rumors world, it's no wonder that the case garnered some intense
interest both from the public and also some pretty serious media attention.
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The case was featured on unsolved mysteries after crime victim advocate Jackie Hansen helped
the family draft letters requesting the show's assistance by spotlighting the case.
Holy guacamole.
That's right.
That's really cool.
I might have seen this.
Good.
You know the funny thing is this was I was so fucking mad and Chris got involved and then
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he was like, I'm fucking mad.
What?
So there's like eight thousand episodes, not literally, but there's a lot.
You know which one you can't, you can't watch anymore just ceases to exist on God's greener
than the internet.
This one.
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Mm-hmm.
They link to it.
You know what comes up?
Totally different fucking episode.
What?
We both tried it from multiple devices multiple different times.
They link the wrong apps.
Oh, good.
There's no way to just like search the name and unsolved mysteries and have it
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tell you what episode it is.
Oh my god.
Why didn't I think of that?
No, I'm saying I literally went to the unsolved mysteries catalog.
Multiple different catalogs in fact with the episode number and the episode that shows
up the one that's there.
It's not the right one.
Oh no.
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It has this name in the episode description.
Oh, that's odd.
If anybody finds it, I'd be.
I'm sure like to watch it.
Can you write like write them an email?
Yeah.
Everyone email unsolved mysteries.
Where is this episode?
The Hood River district attorney made statements that he was pleased that the case would
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receive high profile exposure.
Because what the fuck else do you say?
You sure about that?
Yeah.
Sure about that.
They're going to see all your fuck ups.
Yeah.
And technically he hadn't fucked up yet.
He just gets to be the public face of the botched investigation.
Right.
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Exactly.
Like you were taking, you're the face.
You're responsible.
Yeah.
In most jurisdictions, DA and Sheriff are elected positions.
So it's not a great look.
Yeah.
Let's talk about the fourth suspect.
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Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
Who seems far less frequently discussed?
Which actually makes him more interesting.
Hmm.
Through the course of the investigation, it came to light that Diana Anderson had an ex-boyfriend
with a history of stalking behavior.
She was the last person to have seen Erica live.
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And though obviously she was cleared of any involvement, she was at his home late into
the night when they heard some odd noises.
They even believed her and Eric that night thought somebody.
It seems like somebody is trying to mess with us.
Yeah.
I mean, it seems like if someone's clearly tapping on the door, ringing the bell, like that's
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not just a branch, you know?
Yep.
Is it possible that a jealous, perhaps even deeply disturbed ex-boyfriend, might have decided
to take out a romantic rival?
I mean, sure.
Almost anything seems plausible at this point, really.
He told me aliens did it.
I'd say they don't have enough evidence to prove that they didn't.
I mean, he could have just been there stalking them and then someone else came and murdered
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that Eric later.
I mean, super unlucky.
Yeah.
It would make more sense for that type of person to be ringing the bell and disappearing
in an attempt to disrupt their evening that night than a typical teenage prankster,
just given the remoteness of the home.
Because I don't think that Ding Dong ditching when your neighbor lives like a mile down the
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road is kind of a weird choice, but I guess not a lot to do in a small town.
There's not very much information available pertaining to this theory.
If one enforcement has looked into this as you would hope, they've kept that information
close.
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I'm not even sure that we know the name of the ex-boyfriend.
Oh wow.
Like the public.
I'm sure the police do.
Right.
Maybe.
Who knows?
It's hard to say what they know and don't know at this point.
Oh, God.
Initially, Tamiyasu family offered up a $5,000 reward for information in the case, eventually
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upping it to $10,000, but still the case has remained unsolved.
Given that fact, it can come as no surprise that the Tamiyasu family has been vocal about
their frustration of how the case was handled from the very beginning.
After learning that the bed where her brother, Eric, died, had been burned, Ramona questioned
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what she felt was a hasty move, very possibly resulting in important clues literally going
up in flames.
The DA has stated confidently that the crime scene was processed correctly enough—exquise
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me—correctly enough for a case to stand up in court.
Despite the loss of potential evidence and the delays in processing that Sheriff Wompler
pointed to budget cuts to explain, only the delays in processing forensic evidence.
The budget cuts weren't responsible for the burning of the mattress.
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I can't believe that they said enough.
Correctly enough.
That's what I want.
If my family member is murdered, if I'm murdered—correctly enough to do.
I can go to court.
Do we have enough evidence to do anything?
Maybe.
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I just—yeah.
These are things that men said out loud to other people.
I also had a thought too, like what if he had had like hidden money in his mattress or
like family heirlooms because I don't know, people do that.
Yeah.
That's not your property to be destroying.
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Hold that thought.
Okay.
Furthermore, Suol, who is—that's the name of the DA, Suol.
That's his last name.
Suol.
Okay.
The DA stated that all forensic evidence was gathered, including the bedding prior to
the mattress itself being burned, despite the fact that given the condition of the body
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law enforcement would not be aware Eric had been shot until roughly a day and a half later,
it's like they collected all of the evidence.
Except the mattress.
Why would they— technically they did collect it.
Okay.
They just incinerated it after they collected it.
Or they were saying that it was nothing suspicious, so why were they collecting evidence even if
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they didn't think anything was suspicious?
Because it's death.
Okay.
And they do that, but they don't.
Because you're supposed to presume until—
It's like they did, but they didn't, but they didn't.
Yeah.
Quite literally.
It's unclear what, if any, professional repercussions, Sheriff Wompler faced related to mistakes made in
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the case, though he did express his regrets repeatedly.
Ramona filed complaints regarding the destruction of private property and the Sheriff's office paid
for a replacement bed.
Wompler stating, "I take full responsibility for getting rid of the mattress, and it is a
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practice this office will not do again."
Alternately he was quoted as saying, "I probably wouldn't do that again."
I'm like, "Wait.
You just said we won't do it again."
Is this the same guy who said good enough?
No.
Oh, different guy.
That's still.
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Yeah.
But still, like, why are these people just like, like, non-challantly talking about this?
Yeah.
They probably wouldn't do that again.
It's good enough.
Yeah.
I mean, to be fair, sometimes he says, "I take full responsibility and it is a practice
this office will not do again."
Okay.
Unless he says the other thing where he's like, "Probably wouldn't maybe, props us.
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Props us."
Additionally, as you might imagine, the rumors that hit his world about an affair took
a toll on his personal relationships as well.
How could it not?
The complar was also quoted as saying, "The last rumor has been the hardest because it
has caused embarrassment and hurt for my wife when she has done nothing to deserve those
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aspersions."
Which, fair, detective, Gary, Jerry, Tiffany, detective, Jerry, Tiffany, sorry, Jerry, and
DA Soule have independently stated that most of the rumors surrounding the case can be
traced back to, I guess, Don Dixie.
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Himself a person of interest in the case, somewhere in the course of the investigation,
as too often happens, the story has become honestly more about opposing suspects in the case
than about the actual victim.
It's far too easy a trap to set and snap.
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Maybe while Alice mere mortals are left chasing her tails, just gonna throw this out there.
Okay, picture it.
Eric's spirit is perched up on a beautiful tree, enjoying the fruits of generations of the
family's labor.
What began as a strawberry and asparagus farm eventually became an orchard.
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The first fruit trees planted by Eric's grandfather in the 1930s.
The orchard is now run by Eric's sister Ramona and her husband.
This case fucking sucks.
But I'm just gonna say the cheesy thing that I put in my notes.
Maybe there's still room for growth if we learn at least one thing from this story.
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Not to burn the mattress.
Jesus Christ.
Don't burn the fucking mattress.
Leave it alone.
But even then, would they have cared enough to even solve it if there were evidence in the
mattress or whatever?
I mean, it didn't seem like they cared a whole lot.
I mean, I think the problem is that beyond the mattress, there wasn't a lot that they could
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point to in terms of forensic evidence and a lot of...
There was just so much finger pointing.
You know, and I think whoever did this did a good enough job of not leaving enough of
a trail and then the focus just went to trying to identify who the best suspect was.
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And there's just...
Who knows?
I mean, I feel like there's more than one fairly reasonable theory, but I don't know
if we'll ever know.
And maybe the mattress didn't have any real probative value.
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I don't know.
That's a point.
Yeah, we don't know.
We don't know.
It's just...
Let's just all not burn anything from what I'm seeing.
Yeah.
Just in case.
Yep.
Let's do better than good enough.
Look at that.
We learned one thing.
We did.
We did learn.
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We learned a lot of things from you, but I feel like that's one of the most important.
Yeah.
I just...
It's so infuriating.
That and don't trust anyone named Don Dixon.
I felt like that without saying, "Did you need me to say that?"
Well, I don't know.
Should we do some tarot?
Yeah, let's do some tarot.
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Okay.
I really want to go to an orchard.
I know.
Just like hang out.
I feel like if we can do a trip out this way, it's not that far of a drive for us someday.
Do we go find a orchard?
Do we look orchard?
Oh, yeah.
And they still...
I have a little bit of information about the families, orchards and stuff.
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So I don't know.
We have a couple of Patreon mini-sodes to get through, but I don't know.
I feel like it would be fun to just kind of...
I want to tell you more things.
Okay.
Yeah.
So hopefully we can knock that bad boy out.
We'll do that someday.
Yeah.
Maybe we do some things that we say we're going to do.
All right.
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Let's do it.
Okay.
Let's do tarot.
Okay.
Wait.
Before we do tarot, you got to open your little gifty.
I just wanted to start by saying that we realized this episode was coming out Valentine's
week.
Yeah.
Happy V-Day.
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Yes.
Sad.
Very sad.
I know.
What a topic to have chosen.
But it kind of fit because we talked about the beginning how they were DTR-ing, you know,
defining the relationship.
True.
Yeah.
I thought there was a connection there, but since it was so sad, I just wanted to make us feel
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a little better, make Killing feel a little better because she brings us sad topics and she
knows you do all the research and you see, we talked about it before you filter for us
and you see like the worst of the worst.
I want to make you feel better.
And thank you for torturing us every other week-ish.
You're welcome.
Shall we cheer?
Yeah.
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Let's cheer and open your little gifty.
I got you.
Okay.
Okay.
Torturing her because she's like unbelievably afraid to have something happen with these
glasses or the electronics from the liquid in the glasses.
So I'm famously not good with the long stem.
I'm shaking.
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Actually did have a cortado today.
So oh.
And you have my last time, yeah.
I had one yesterday.
Oh, they're so good.
They're really good.
I heard the brown sugar.
Oh, no, one.
Oh, I think I just got a plane.
I think I might have just gotten a plane one.
I'm out of plane.
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She good.
But the brown sugar.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm going to have to try that.
And our wine is like an orange wine.
Oh, anyway.
Open your present.
Oh, right.
Okay.
Okay.
Oh.
This is how you know someone loves you.
Seriously.
Whenever Chris brings these home, I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm married that man.
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Fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
Okay.
They're Valentine nerd clusters.
Nerds for a nerd.
Am I right?
So I knew those would make you feel better.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay.
Well, we have to get through this year.
Oh, reading because I got to go eat a case of dillar.
And now, like what is today?
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I don't know.
Just food being put in front of me right before a microphone.
Maybe we should start a mukbang.
Okay.
No comments.
That would have to definitely be charged for.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's not free.
That's paid a play.
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My dude.
Okay.
All right.
Ooh, she purred it.
Okay.
So I'll flip it right side up just so that everybody can see it.
Oh, the moon.
Right in front of my face.
Did you kiss it?
I feel like I made kind of a duck sound as I was doing the, because if you can't see it,
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it's a duck on the card.
I realize recently we've been kind of bad about describing what we're doing.
Do you want me to set it?
Oh, sure.
We've been kind of bad about describing what we're doing because we are on video now.
So it's like, we can see it.
And then we kind of forget other people can't.
Yeah, we forgot where we came from.
You know, it's an audio medium.
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You said reverse, right?
Yes.
Okay.
I feel like everything is in reverse for me.
My brain is still not really braining.
I have a fun little story of what we did last night.
And in hindsight, considering how much my brain was just not braining, it's a little
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bit scary that I did it.
Okay.
Wow.
Okay.
I tried turning to page 18 because it's the 18th card.
And I was like, what the shit?
That's not the right page.
Okay.
Now we're on the right page.
Okay.
All right.
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Well, here we go.
Yeah.
No, I'm telling you, my brain is really having a tough time.
Minus, too.
Yeah.
I'll explain later.
All right.
Keywords for the moon.
The moon.
The moon.
Intuition, the unconscious mystery, illusion and secrets.
Well, there was certainly a lot of that happening in this story.
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Yeah.
Okay.
I am going to kind of skip through.
I know we've read a lot about the, in this first section of our interpretation book,
it usually talks a lot about the writer, Wait Smith.
When we've read this card several times, I'm going to skip it because it does, I don't
think it really applies.
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We're using a non-traditional deck.
So I'm going to get into the tail end here and then we'll read the interpretation.
Unless something like really specific jumps out like about the imagery, then we don't
really need to like read the description of the card.
Yeah.
Sometimes it does though.
Yeah.
Trying to pick and choose a little bit.
And this is our P&W deck.
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So it's, you know, I'll look up what kind of duck it is afterwards.
Yes.
Way most.
The water suggests the moon's link with the emotions and the unconscious realm.
The moon urges you to pay more attention to your inner self, your lunar self.
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The light of the sun enables us to see the world around us.
But the moon allows us to illuminate what springs naturally from inside us.
Okay.
There's some extra excerpts in here.
So we'll decide if we want to read those or not.
I think it's kind of funny that the moon is like emotions and feelings and then you put
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the sign out.
This is ask me about my feelings and we literally got like the feelings card.
Well, and as you were showing me the different options for the sign, I read it as don't ask
me about my feelings, which is sounds like it.
Well, it's like that thing where if letters are reversed in a word, your brain will still
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fill in and you can read things oftentimes that are misspelled.
If it's like close enough, that's what my brain did.
It was like close enough.
The moon card is sometimes linked with deceit and self deception, disappointment and undoing.
Usually because you weren't listening to that still small voice within.
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When this card appears reversed, it may advise you to tie up loose ends connected to the past,
especially to your mother or other women.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, very interesting.
The first part of that though, like tying ends from your past reminds me you said that she
had a boyfriend that was like possibly stalking them.
Yeah, yeah, the ex boyfriend.
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Yeah, I definitely, that's kind of the energy that I was picking up as well.
And like, we don't know when it happened.
Or maybe we do.
What?
I just assumed it happened like at night time.
Oh, yes.
No, it was night time.
Yeah.
We got the moon.
Yeah.
The moon.
In a reading about money, you may feel incapable of handling a financial matter.
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It's because you can't see what's really going on or you're too emotionally involved in
this situation to be objective.
This isn't the best time to make a major decision.
Ups and downs are likely now.
Try not to let them throw you into a panic.
Hmm.
Hmm.
This card can also indicate buying stuff as a way to pinch hit or genuine emotion or happiness.
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It's interesting.
Okay.
If the reading is about your job, a secret or hidden situation may come to light.
Interesting.
Oh, the scandal.
Yes.
The scandal alleged.
Yes.
One of the many alleged scandals.
Yes.
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This card can also point to an emotional, uncertain, changing work environment where nothing
is clear.
Perhaps you've let the pressures of the outside world throw you off balance and you feel disconnected
from your true self.
That kind of reminds me of like letting Don Dixon convince you to burn a mattress.
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Oh, that is a really good point.
My head didn't really go there, but I feel like that fits.
That's interesting.
In a reading about love, you've probably deluded yourself about a partner or relationship.
Okay.
I'm getting next boyfriend vibes again.
Or you may be attempting to cast yourself in an unreal light in order to win someone's
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affection.
Things are not what they seem.
Deceit, manipulation or inconsistency may cause problems.
Hmm.
That's interesting.
Like all of Don's stories and how.
Deceit, manipulation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause there's no problems.
I mean, he certainly has not been charged with a crime in relation to Eric's death, but
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so much of what he said that kind of had investigators looking at, oh, is this a possible
motive?
Is this a possible suspect?
None of that could be verified.
Yeah.
It just seemed like a very manipulative.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, maybe it's a coincidence, but.
Yes.
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There is an extra excerpt.
I don't feel as though it has a tie in and there are two other ones that I want to skim through
to see if there's something we should read.
But this extra excerpt at the end of the reverse interpretation is the triple goddess.
And remember, there's kind of, I would say, like the long, held, potential suspects.
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There's three of them.
Oh.
I don't know.
They're not goddesses, though.
No, certainly not.
Oh, it's a Pacific loon.
Oh, okay.
Duck loons.
I mean, that makes sense for like nighttime because aren't loons, nighttime ducks.
Nighttime ducks.
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Loons.
Let's just say it in loons.
Nighttime ducks.
Night.
And.
Oh.
I thought.
Loons sound like that.
Oh.
Do they?
I mean, they make like a crying sound, like a moaning cry.
I did not know this.
We should look up the sound of a loon.
Oh.
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Okay, there is, I'll read this when looking for adventure in a dark and deserted landscape.
Okay.
I realize as I'm saying it out loud, that feels a little connected.
Dark.
But it's, I wouldn't say deserted more rural, rural, rural.
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We should only ask for the light of the moon.
Then our imaginations can create more exotic explanations for the rustling in the undergrowth
or the dark parentheses, bottomless question mark voids, which open up ahead of us.
Ooh.
Okay.
It just reminds me of whoever was like speaking out.
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Yeah.
Like around the house and they like from that footprint, right?
Yes.
The one foot.
The one foot.
We comfort ourselves too much with light.
Sometimes we must wander in the dark so that our other senses can find their full expression.
And we hear more clearly the message of the night, the wilderness and the strange creatures
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that inhabit the unseen spaces.
Wow.
Like a loon.
Like a loon.
They just get almost like when they're putting together like these special tarot decks, like
they really put a lot of thought into like what animal goes on it.
Because they get a lot of them completely so connected with even though it's not a traditional
imagery on the deck, like just the word A is so connected with whatever animal.
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I can cut.
Which it's, I like that.
I love that.
Yeah.
Someone get my modicle.
Oh, this is interesting.
Most of the keywords are the same, but there's one in here that says vagueness and misconceptions.
Okay.
Instability, anxiety and security.
Yeah.
I mean, those all make sense.
Yeah, totally.
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I don't know.
I think sometimes it's like we will look at a glance at the keywords and say, oh, you know,
they're basically the same or whatever.
But I think sometimes words that are synonymous, they're not exactly the same.
They have kind of different connotations.
I feel like I'm always glad when we kind of read through and find something that maybe
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it expands a little bit.
Yeah.
I don't think your vagueness was like, no, it just reminded me of like, oh, good enough.
Well, and they feel like there's something about like where it's talking about sort of mystery
and darkness that implies sort of like a murky or, you know, vagueness.
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But yeah, just really screamed like just, yeah, we did a good enough job collecting the evidence.
That was what they said, right?
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm hard to forget that, turn of frames.
Okay.
This is very short.
Okay.
It's breeding season.
And the moon lays her two eggs, two gray, green, speckled orbs, each a perfect image of
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the other.
Her nest floats upon the mirror of the lake.
Oh, they're nest float.
That is, that's like, I was starting to think about that.
That's why I got thrown off.
That's very interesting.
Okay.
Her nest floats upon the mirror of the lake, a surface identical in color to the night sky.
That's pretty cool.
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Yeah.
Looking deeper, dipping her head below and then back above, then below again, the moon
dies into the gray, green glow of the moon reflected.
The gray, green, green, the light.
I can't even say it again.
No, never again.
She resurfaces with her catch and floats on the veil midway between two luminous speckled
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orbs, each the perfect image of the other.
Hmm.
You know what that makes me think of?
I mean, it's a little bit, it kind of is, I don't know, it's all interpretation.
So I guess, take it for what it is.
But that kind of makes me think of, like, these are two, like, really good friends, right,
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that have sort of, like, just, I don't know, in a weird way, it just reminds me of, like,
sort of their bond and how it started off as, you know, a friendship and now it's like,
become more romantic.
I don't know.
That makes any sense.
Or kind of, it made me kind of also think of, like, his family that had, like, the farm
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and, yeah, you talked about his family, right?
Yeah.
I don't know why, just like the mother with her eggs and, like, I don't know.
There's definitely really strong feminine energy that it seems like plays into this card
and into the reading.
So that's interesting.
The moon, yes, very feminine.
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It makes sense because there were multiple women that were involved, even just tangentially,
because I was going to say part of the interpretation also reminded me of, like, speaking of shit
that Dawn said that may or may not be true.
Like, think about the sheriff's wife.
It's like, I mean, yeah, I would reverse a small place.
(01:03:21):
I'm sure she had met Eric, but like, wow, to just have this rumor start.
That was, you know, one thing that the sheriff said, like, yeah, that was kind of the, one
of the difficult aspects of, and like, the most difficult of the rumors for him to kind
of, like, process and deal with.
Because it's like, well, yeah, I mean, if she wasn't doing anything, you know, nefarious,
(01:03:48):
then, you know, it's just, that shitty.
You're just drawn into this?
And it's, I don't know.
It goes back to what I was saying about, like, this is a personal tragedy, you know, that
Eric has passed and for his family.
And then to have that sort of just become about these other characters that, like, maybe
didn't, you know, like small town, but like, she, I'm sure she knew him, but maybe not
(01:04:12):
even that well.
Yeah.
And suddenly we're talking about her.
Like, yeah, not, not any fault of her own that, you know, that we know of, but, you
know, yeah.
Yeah, probably not.
Like, oh, wow.
Well, that was cool.
Yeah.
I really like to that it's like Hood River, and then we got like a water card.
(01:04:35):
Yeah.
Should we do that thing?
Yeah, let's do it.
We hope everyone has like a really good Valentine's Day.
Obviously, whether you celebrate or not, you can have a gallon times.
You could just, I was just going to say, Valentine's, Galantines, nothing at all.
Valentine's Day.
Yeah.
(01:04:55):
Actually, creepy Valentine's Day.
Yeah, maybe don't.
Be safe.
Yeah.
Give your friends your location if you're going on a date.
Just, yeah.
I don't care how long you've known them.
If you're married, I don't care.
Give your friends your fucking location because like, the husband probably didn't.
I mean, let's face it.
What has been to that, you know, I guess that goes from men too.
(01:05:16):
If you're a man too, give your friends your location.
No one is safe.
Yeah.
Nothing and no one is safe or should ever be trusted.
Okay, bye.
Bye.
I love you.
I'm surprised.
We can be trusted.
Right.
Okay.
I'm going to be under my blankie here.
(01:05:37):
Hopefully I don't have to take my hands out.
I, yeah, I don't know.
We'll see.
What do you need my hands for?
Couldn't tell you.
They're busy under my blanket.
Let me know.
Alrighty.
Well, maybe we'll just have an impromptu hand check, shall we?
Hand check.
They're just cold, you guys.
They're just cold.
(01:05:58):
She's so cold.
That's why you made me a blanket.
That's true.
It's quite literally true.
once. Quite literally true. (pnwhauntsandhomicides.com)
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