Nevada City, California: A Ghostly Gold Rush Town

Nestled in the Sierra Nevada mountains, just northeast of Sacramento, Nevada City, CA, is a historic Gold Rush town. Founded in 1849, it was one of the most important mining towns in California—though getting there wasn’t easy, as some early settlers traveled via the same treacherous route as the Donner Party.

In this episode, we explore the National Exchange Hotel, a California Historical Landmark that has hosted many notable figures during the Gold Rush Era. Present day, the hotel is known to have some ghostly guests - a glimpse into a business meeting from the past, a lady in white roaming the halls, and a ghostly child seen riding a tricycle. We also step inside Firehouse No. 1, now a museum, where flying cabinet doors, phantom footsteps, and a red-haired woman playing a haunted organ have been reported. Then, we visit the Red Castle Inn, home to the lingering spirit of the Gray Lady, a devoted nanny who still checks on guests—sometimes by gently brushing their forehead while they sleep.

Plus, we uncover some creepy history—like the Foreign Miners’ Tax, which unfairly targeted Chinese and Hispanic gold miners—and dive into the wild life of Lola Montez, a fiery performer known for her infamous Spider Dance (yes, it’s connected to tarantulas). Is Nevada City one of the most haunted places in California? Tune in for ghost stories, history, and plenty of spooky fun!

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Episode Transcript

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It made me think like what if every time we're searching for something like a piece of our soul like breaks off and just is like eternally searching for that thing?

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Okay then how do I have any soul left?
Do you?
It's like a whore crocs every time like a piece of your soul right? God, you guys! I have no soul left just based on the number of times I couldn't find my keys.
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You know what else is nasty? Well, doing tarot readings.
Oh right. I mean some people think.
And we just happen to do this in every episode for a little deeper insight into our topic.
Until that's made of federal crime.
Which, you know, which...
The way things are going.

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Any who...
Yeah, we're gonna try to keep the good energy going with this episode, but you know the world's crazy right now.
And yeah, we found out some fun things today, so we're here.
So indeed, I'm hoping that something stronger than coffee.
It is a watermelon white claw.

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Ooh.
I took your advice and I got a brown sugar cortato this morning.
Oh my god, did you love it?
Oh, so good. So good.
It is good. Absolutely addicting and I hate that I'm addicted to it.
It's life-altering. I feel as though it's the only thing keeping me sane.

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I mean, well, and you know this.
But yeah, I'm using a coffee mug because I'm classy.
Classy-cassy.
I also have something cool to show you that my aunt got me for Christmas.
Well, I guess technically kind of us.
She put our little faces and logo on a wine bottle.

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That's amazing.
So we do have some Patreon shout outs.
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We have three of the creepy people tier, which is the $1 tier.
We have, oh, I'm sorry, four. We have four.
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We have Jan, Ann-Marie, Patience and Marie.

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And Marie.
not Ann-Marie! We have an Ann Marie and a Marie. An. We have an An, a N, a Panned. The N is silent. Yes, exactly. Yeah, so Jan, I mean, Jan, did you, Jan did you join in Jan January?

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Because we talked about them because we were just, I don't, we were doing a terror reading that like just kept saying patience.

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And then it's more likely that we're going to put your name in for the shout out as we record on Saturday. Right? That's true.
Well, who knows? Well, insider tip. Well, should we get into this episode? But I have. I guess so might be a spooky one. We don't know yet.

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I really like my newly developed like how many scoots system. I think that came about just pretty recently. Like how many legs do I need to have up in the chair. So like, do you want to give it a rating or this one might be like a two or three scooter.

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Okay. So I mean, I'm not sure we haven't established the highest ranking yet, but I feel like we don't need to yet until we get there. But I'm going to call this a two or three. So like pretty mild pretty mild.
Oh, okay. We're calling two or three pretty mild because I feel like last last time you said like one and a half. It was a one. No, it was like a one one. Okay. Yeah. And you did a one. You did a one scoop. So.

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Okay. I feel like today already feels like a three scoop just before you even start. So yeah. All right. All right. Well, let's get going. All right.
Today we're talking about Nevada city, California. So it's a little bit of a trickery there. Yeah, that's not confusing at all. She's like Nevada.

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That's not P and W. I mean, we'll take her. But it is in northern California. So technically it is specific Northwest. We think it's about an hour northeast of Sacramento. Okay. Okay.
You know what's really funny. You remember last time I was like Damascus. It's yeah, it's Northwest, Northwest Southwest Southwest, deportment. I kept saying Southwest and I looked at the fucking map. And I was like, yeah, Southwest, Southwest. It was totally Southeast. Oh, no.

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I was like, my brain was just doing that left right thing where it's like I'm left like very confidently. But like I mean, right. So yeah, no, I mean, I don't like there. Yeah. Perfect. The magic editing.
And I was like, Taylin, please cut this out. So I don't look like an idiot. But this time I'm confident it is Northeast of Sacramento. It's in the Sierra Nevada mountain range.

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And did you know that Nevada means snow covered in Spanish? Really? Yeah. That is not weird. Yes, because that's not an association that I make with Nevada. Not at all. Not at all. But like it does make sense with this because Sierra Nevada means like snow covered mountain range.

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Okay. So they just named the state Nevada wrong. That's all. Yeah, I would say the town got its first settlers in 1849. And many, many more after that because it was the gold rush days.
Everyone is rushing to the West. To pan for gold. Some even got their via the same pass as the Donner party. No, no.

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So like it was not easy to get there, you know, I'm scooting. I'm not going to talk anymore about that because that's like for some reason it makes me so sad. And they were like they had some pictures. Yeah.
It's so awful. And even just like I had never seen really pictures of the Donner pass. And like I come across them. And I just like looked at it and just got like so sad. Well, yeah. I just like felt it. Like how awful.

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I mean, yeah, there's not a lot of things that you can imagine that are worse than some of that. Anyway, it's moving on.
I got really cold. I mean, need to grab a blanky. So even though it's like kind of hard to get there, everyone had to kind of migrate and a great travel really, really far.

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It was the best mining town in California. So everyone wanted to be there.
I feel like that saying something at that point. Yeah, right. Because there was a lot of them.
Oh, yeah. I think really all throughout the Pacific Northwest. California was definitely like the hotbed.
I came across an interesting tidbit. And this is the one I was kind of like hinting at to you with our conversation.

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I was like, three recording Northern California had a four in minors tax. And this was because a lot of Chinese and Hispanic people were coming to look for gold as well.
And saw the white people were like, Hey, that's not fair. That's our gold. We stole this land. Yeah. Yeah, go steal your own. Yeah, exactly. So they're like, let's, let's just tax the shit out of them.

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And originally it was $20 a month, which is like absolutely insane for back then. It was $809 now. Wow.
They did later very kindly, very kindly lower it to about three to four dollars, which is still $121, $211 now.

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Well, and I'm assuming that because it's like a monthly tax, I'm assuming that that means we're not basing that on whether or not you're actually successfully mining right gold.
So it's like you're paying that regardless. So that that just feels particularly punitive. Yeah. I mean, it's all like just Iki. I wanted to point it out, but I feel like if anything, why wouldn't they just like take a percentage of it?

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But I think they just wanted to discourage that many people coming. Yeah, that's true. Because they feel like the percentage may have been the thing that paid better in the long run.
But it would, if you take like a monthly fee on the front end, that discourages people from even getting established. Yeah.

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So you have to, I think you do have to kind of look at like what was the motivation behind it? And it makes sense. I think that.
Yeah. And then like what did they have to do to get the money to even start like that so much money?
Exactly. Yeah. They have to like pay for room and board and food and.
And then you're in a new town like that's it's just so fucked up. Yeah, so fucked up. So we I just had to start off this episode right. Excellent.

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So this like I said was a very important town and it needed a very important place for it's very important people to stay.
So first, revisiting the national exchange hotel, which I think they some people just call it the national hotel. Oh, okay.
It just seems like an odd name. Yeah. Like the national exchange like it sounds like a like a trading post.

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Kind of. Yeah. I think though I think when they when it first opened it kind of did do a lot of stuff like I think they said it had a post office and stuff in it.
So maybe it was more of like a hub for a bunch of different things, not just a hotel. So that kind of makes sense. Maybe that makes more sense then.
And it's like the 1800s on they said weird shit back then. All that weird stuff. So opened in 1856. And the hotel is still open now.

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It's a California historical landmark and listed on the national register of historic places. How many times have I said that? I don't know. You know if I had a nickel. Yeah.
And it is like one of the oldest hotels in California. If not the oldest, I think some places said it was the oldest. Yeah.
Like one of the one of the articles that it was like the oldest on this side of the Mississippi. Oh, I love it when we get to say things are something on either side of the Mississippi. Right. Is that funny? I love that. I don't know why that it really.

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It really jazzes me up. So it's really cute on the front of their website. It says last night I dreamt I was at the national hotel. Oh, that is cute. So cute. I was like, OK, I want to stay here just because of that little quote on their website.
Yeah, it's been renovated several times. It's really old. And they found like beautiful rooms that had been boarded off for some reason, which is always really creepy when rooms are just boarded off.

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Yeah, I don't I don't care for that. I feel like that's. No. Yeah. I feel like even if it's not for like a specific reason. Like maybe they just weren't using it or whatever.
But I feel like energy just like gets trapped in there and just sit in there and it's just it gets weird. I don't know. OK, first of all, I don't buy that a particular room of a hotel is just getting boarded up for for no particular reason. Like no, no.

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Like they did a lot of rent like a lot of different render renovations. Renewed on it. Renewations. They did a lot of different renovations on it. So I don't know. I really don't know. I didn't find anything that explained, but it's just creepy. And I wanted to point that out.
That is creepy. Yeah, because they I think they said one of them was like one of the balcony rooms or like room with a veranda. What's a veranda? That's like a balcony.

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Yeah, it's like a bigger balcony typically. Yeah, so like, why would you board that off? Did someone that's you know why you know why?
But now after the most recent renovation.
Quote the property now provides guests with a luxurious day that combines contemporary comfort with Victorian charm. That's quote from the site.

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Yes, please. Yeah, this definitely Victorian era so that you're gonna hear me say Victorian era a lot. And you know, now I know what that means. So it actually means something to me.
Yes. I'm all about that. So the people staying at this hotel were businessmen, mine owners and like casually president Herbert Hoover.

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Who who who who do ver who who who who who who who who?
Is he a bad one?
Ah, I don't think he's one that's associated
Typically with like anything to Narnar. I don't know a president stayed there so like obviously it was a big deal
You know, honestly if you look hard enough any one of our presidents. You're gonna find yeah, I mean

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He's obviously like there's the Hoover Dam. So he's you know, there's an association there with job creation and
Of course, you know that that he he did the damn thing. Yeah
Exactly. Yeah, I mean job creation as a president
Typically like that does well with voters and
Speaking of job creation. It's interesting you mentioned that because they even think this is where talks of the PG&E were started

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Really in room 314
So they have like even a specific room number and that is of course the Pacific Gas and Electric Company serving millions of Northern Californians. So very important stuff
Yeah, job creation definitely definitely and you know, maybe creating some other things the bad things explosions

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Explosions fires
You know, but electricity at what cost just for aspires
Well, thank the national hotel for that
It's not their fault that these you know businessmen who were into like that kind of business

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Meth there so yeah in that same room 314
I guess woke up in the middle of the night and saw some business looking men of that era
Like that late 1800s smoking cigars and they look like they were talking excitedly about something
So you know possibly having a meeting possibly just some locker room talk. Oh, we don't know. Yeah

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Well, I'm creepy. It was in like happening in her room if I just woke up to see if I'm a man in my room I'd be freaked out
Yeah, and anything that is described as like locker room talk
I mean no one's
No one said that I was just like assuming you're at
Talking excitedly about something that doesn't mean it was something good, you know

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Yeah, not necessarily but the fact that they did have like these kind of business meetings in that room
So maybe they were just they left their impression of their you know exciting new business mentor. Yeah
That's that's an interesting thought
There is a white lady

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Of course
That's my favorite joke. I think you did it
There was a white lady and you were like
So now every time I hear that I'm like
I think it's important to distinguish between white lady and lady in white

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Right, but they do frequently call like a lady in white just they refer to it as white lady
So I just think it's so funny. I love to make that joke
Like listen these can mean a lot of different things. This can be like a frequent
reoccurring haunt this could be a Karen this could be a bride it could be a combination of all three

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So this scary Karen was not
So anyway this lady in white she roams the halls in that classic Victorian hairstyle with the classic Victorian dress
But her dress has a yellow sash which I think is like a really cute detail. Oh
Yeah, so it makes me think sometimes we think of white ladies and we think oh, they're like a ghost

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So like they're just all white and like see through
Right, right and not just like specifically wearing a white dress
But I think this is like a person just wearing a like an actual white dress with a yellow sash because the sash is yellow so
There's some little pop of color in there. I was just gonna say a little dash of color

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Besides her yellow sash people also smell her perfume
Oh, which I love when there's like a smell in the haunting
I'm realizing now I don't know if I sprayed my perfume this morning. Oh
I usually put it like some in my hair
So I stick it good
You have to remember that for when you're a ghost make sure to bring your perfume. Oh god

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One article too called a cheap perfume and I'm like oh
That's rude. Why would this fancy lady Victorian air lady wear cheap perfume? I just it didn't make sense to me
Also wasn't everything that wasn't literally just a bare essential
Like expensive fact that right? It's like

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Define cheap perfume. Yeah, I mean like maybe nowadays it would be considered like
Something cheaper smelling because like they have so many different sense now that are just all crazy
But I don't know. I feel like to sometimes people describe it as cheap if they
If they just don't like the smell of it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like that doesn't that doesn't mean as cheap bitch

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Yeah, I mean, I don't feel that just because you don't like something that that means you need to assign a specific
monetary value to it. Yeah
Like I've had perfume that's not expensive but smells good
Yeah, and not all expensive perfume smells good. I know
For some reason a lot of people have left rooms 208 and 209 in the middle of the night

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And I guess this is like their presidential suite. So I imagine it's like not cheap
So to be leaving in the middle of the night
Like something's going down something's going down and I couldn't find anything that specifically was saying
What was happening?
But I know there were a ton of renovations in those rooms specifically

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They did mention that so maybe it was just something was not happy with all of the change. I don't know
That would make sense. I feel like maybe you should go and stay there and just see what happens, you know
I would love to
Okay, I would love to
Write to me
There is another spirit here that kind of sounds like a child to me. Oh, I think they did

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I did find something later that does say it's a child but like this specific article I was reading
Doesn't say it's a child, but I'm going to read you what they do and you're going to be like oh, that's for sure kid
Oh, it's like kind of weird because they don't specifically say it at first. So I'm like kind of picturing an adult
Oh, okay, that's I don't know which is worse

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It would be creepier as an adult. So her name is Elizabeth and people will see her playing with a ball
Or a jump bro or writing her little tricycle
Okay, I take a fact it's way worse as an adult
Because I see like an adult on a kid's size tricycle and like the spider needs going down

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Unless it's somebody like my size and they can actually ride the tricycle comfortably
Maybe it is maybe it's just the cat-lin sized adult. I don't play with a little ball and a jump rope and writing a little tricycle
Oh my god. I don't even think I can write a tricycle comfortably. So yeah, I haven't tried it on a while

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Yeah, like I was a nanny so that's not weird for me to have tried to write a tricycle like
In my adult life, but it's been a minute
Immediately defensive take note take note
I'm just out there on the streets like stealing little kids tricycles and writing
Oh boy

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Also part of her legend is that she had passed in room 411 of the mumps
411 in room 411. Yeah, I don't know how many honestly okay
This is probably bad. I forgot to look up like how many stories in rooms this had but I'm not about to go do it right now
But it's a pretty big it's pretty big hotel. Yeah

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I am just noting that 411 because I don't know
Maybe people don't say this very much anymore, but you I
You've heard the phrase give me like the 411
Oh, yeah, yeah, the 411 is that she passed and oh
Oh, no, 411. I don't like it. I know it's really sad for me too because like a kid like passing in a hotel

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That just seems like extra sad to me
I don't know. I don't know if it's true. It's all like a legend. So I really don't know if this actually happened
Um, obviously, I don't think they were vaccinating back then
In the 1800s. Yeah, the guy on the vaccines came around, but I can imagine that not that far back
No

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So she's seen all over the hotel and even in the hotels restaurant, which is named
Lola
Ooh, and this is actually after someone very specific
The restaurant is named after Lola Montez who was a self-proclaimed Spanish dancer. Oh, I was gonna say was it Lola

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She was a show girl right? No, is that song named? I don't know if I thought song is about her
Well, let me go on with this and then we can decide if we think that song is about her not okay
But she was a self-proclaimed Spanish dancer because she was born in Ireland as Eliza Gilbert

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She had a long and interesting life
In between being born and the time that she made it over to California
But by that time she was known as Lola the Spanish dancer
Oh, okay, and she was known for doing

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You're gonna fuck you Nate this. I'm sorry. I forgot about this part and now I'm like wait this might be like a five scooter
Great. I literally can't wait. I literally can't wait. I'm so excited
So she was known for doing her spider dance
And she would basically act like spiders were crawling up her legs and she would like stop in like flinger skirts

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Around like trying to get them off of her but like in a dancing way. Oh like Emma Stone in the you know that
Yeah, she does like a spidery look and dance. Oh fuck what is that? Oh, is that the new the newer movie that she's in the weird one? Yeah
That's what I remember that part, but oh my gosh. No, I want to go watch that. I really want to watch that too

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So she would do this dance to Italian folk music called tarantella. Oh and it's like literally what you think of when you think of Italian music
Okay, let me send this to you. Okay, it's like you think of like an accordion
Yes, yeah, I'm picturing an accordion, but also at the same time it's sort of giving me like it's almost got like a Von Trap meets like

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uh
Conquista door isn't quite the right word, but they've got like the red skirt like who's the guy uh
Who's the guy that tries to get the bowls to charge
That that Matador oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what you say it. I'm like oh yeah
It looks like it looks like a costume
All of these dancers in this like example song is that they look like they're wearing like a

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A sweet dish made like a milk made type outfit, but the skirt is red like and it's giving Matador
Yeah, I feel like I'm very culturally confused right well, I feel like this like this Italian type of music and like some Spanish music are very similar
I yeah, I would imagine so there's influence because they're you know, it's kind of history

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Well, well history, but also just proximity. I thought it was interesting to that
She calls herself a Spanish dancer and then uses this like Italian song
But like has like Spanish feel vibe to it. Yeah, and I don't know specifically that she was saying like this
spider dance specifically was Spanish

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I just think she really like she kind of dressed like
She was kind of like cultural appropriating like she that was like trying to pass off
Yeah, her name with like her look
That she was actually
I'm gonna show you photo. I mean she could very easily pass as Spanish, French

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uh, I mean a lot of cultural identities in in that region. I think and obviously I don't think she meant it in like a malicious way
She just kind she like I said she had a very interesting life
So I feel like she kind of just want to like reinvent herself go do something new and fun
So like when I say she was like cultural appropriating like nowadays if like a white Irish lady were to

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Call herself Lola Montez and dress like Spanish and color herself a Spanish dancer. That would be very very different a little dice
Yeah back then you know, I mean that's what it is. That's why I'm not doing it personally
As a white baby. Yeah
Why do you think I dyed my hair bro

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Um, I'm looking at a picture of her right now that is
Like the very typical
It like I think the kids today now would say she's like snatched
I'm in it. I'm gonna send it
She's good looking
Well, and I'm talking very you'll as soon as you see this you'll you'll know exactly what I'm talking about

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Yes, yeah
I'm like she would say be saying yeah, yeah, oh my god the waist though
Oh my god, that's what I'm saying snatched and you know that's not that is all corset like that cannot be photoshop because right
All the days
So anyway back to like the song and dance thing back to the spiders

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Cuz you know I was like I need to know more about this spider thing
I was like tarantella that sounds like really close to tarantula
That's weird
Wouldn't you know it's not that weird
It totally is it does mean tarantula and
Now this dance is kind of seen as a couple of stands, but originally it was it was known as the dance of the spider

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And tarantella comes from an Italian word tarantola, which is clearly it's tarantula, right?
Oh my god a couple's dances like spiders
Yeah, it used to be so there's a really crazy reason
This song exists
Okay
In southern Italy people believed there were tarantulas that would cause a person to fall into fits of hysteria if bitten

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And it caused a strong urge to dance
And I assume I assume they mean like uncontrolled like movements
I don't think they were like waltzing or like doing like TikTok dances the fox strut
But they thought they could cure this by dancing the tarantella

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So they would have this person dance
Oh they were like wildly dancing and then they would kind of like start to follow the beat and like the rhythm of the tarantella
And then eventually they would like sweat it out or whatever and
This to my knowledge, this is something they believed this is not like actually something that the

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That it caused I don't know
Doesn't sound super scientific if I'm being honest. Yeah, so
But that's what they believed and that's why the song exists
All right, yeah, so eventually I don't know when it changed to be like a couple's type of dance, but
Then interesting. Okay, so I like I just have to talk about Miss Lola Montez a little bit longer because I just like can't leave her alone. She's so fascinating

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She was a spicy lady and
There's like two more super cool things about her. I literally couldn't help myself so
She had a lot of pets and one of them was a bear that she walked on a leash
A bear
I don't know if it was like a little cub

(32:06):
Oh like an actual bear
I mean, I have to assume
Probably not a full grown bear. I hope it was like a little cute cub
But then like what if it grew into like a big bear and she still walked on a leash. I mean, I feel like
I don't know. I have to I have to try not to look at this through like a modern lens

(32:26):
I guess because I don't think that probably a bear wants to be locked like walked on a leash like a dog
But if you find him like a little baby. I don't know. It's not it. I'm not saying it's like right
But it's so cute and interesting and we have like this weird bear theme running through our episodes

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I saw that and of course I was like okay if anything mentions a bear like I got to mention it
Yes, just a bear
Exactly. There's one more thing about Lola. I have to mention. It's like the spicy part of her. Oh
So she wrote a couple of things and I feel like I want to get this and read it for like a patreon bonus
One of the things she wrote is titled the arts of beauty

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colon or secrets of a lady's toilet with hints to gentleman on the art of fascinating
Oh my god what
I know Lola. I have to read this. I really want to know what this like I have to
I think we can buy it girl you know I'm gonna you know I'm gonna the secrets of a lady's toilet

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Coming to a patreon bonus near you
I'm so excited. I love it
Okay, so we might be hearing more from Lola in the future
Might be that sounds pretty non-committal and I am pretty committed

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Okay, so I made the spider thing better. Okay, maybe we'll see
Okay, we're gonna move on
There's a couple of other buildings in town we need to stop and visit
And the first of those is firehouse number one
Now the Nevada County Historical Society Museum
And it's said to be pretty haunted

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Stay haunted. I don't know why I said it like that
But I felt like being annoying so I did it. I mean because it's fun
because it's fun
There's only there's only so many times I can say a place is haunted
I'd got him like have some variety in my life. Okay, let's try
So the firehouse was built in 1861 and it ran for 80 years

(34:41):
It became a museum in 1947. Wow, so I'm not sure if it sat empty for those six years or if they had to like repair some things
Remodel get ready for it to become a museum. I'm not really sure. I mean, it's an old building. So I would imagine
You know fair to say it could be due for some repairs or you know bring it it up

(35:04):
To code for just like the general public
They're probably trying to like decommission the fire poles that people aren't
Slide down that yeah, they're like this is a museum. Okay
Yeah, I feel like that's that's a decent time frame to like do remodeling and to like set up an entire museum where it used to not be a museum

(35:25):
So like it like
Yeah, so I feel like that's hopefully it didn't just sit empty and creepy, but I'm gonna send you like the Google image search
So you could just like kind of see what it looks like and we're gonna talk about it. So it's really cool
I want to live there
So it's this white building and it's described as gingerbread Victorian architecture and I was like

(35:49):
Oh my god
This is the cutest thing and I was it is gingerbread architecture like a real thing. Yeah, and it total it totally is
I had no idea
So it was a popular thing in this era to decorate homes with elaborate trim like you would like kind of decorate with icing a gingerbread house
Which is that a bell tower?

(36:11):
Yeah, so the building definitely has that decorative trim and the most stunning thing about it
The bell tower
So I think it's two stories and then it has a bell tower on top
Oh my god this picture of it from like just down the street
I'm dead

(36:32):
Yeah, it's so it's so guys I'm moving to Nevada, California
Nevada city
I know I said Nevada, California, Nevada city
You know what I'm moving
She's moving, she's getting out of here
The only thing like like kind of
Interesting about it is it's a really small building and it's kind of smashed in between this row of other mismatched buildings

(36:59):
Yeah, this looks like
It looks it's it's very confusing because I feel like right next to it like you can see there's a mainstream
Antiques which I feel like is found on every mainstream in every
state in the entirety of the United States
And then it's like this looks like almost like an 1860s like general store

(37:23):
Hmm, it just smashed in there between them all smashed straight
They're all like it's this white building so sticks out like a a thore thumb a thore thumb and then the other buildings are like blue and like
And yeah, it's weird
It is beautiful and I would happily live smashed between the antique and general store

(37:47):
Hmm, I have a new dream, okay, I feel like this is me like Michael Scotting
I
This is my dream since lunch
Well, I might crush your
You're very recent dreams
or

(38:07):
According to one of the past museum directors
Haunt tanks were a very common occurrence. I mean like every day
It wouldn't be the first place I've lived
That's true
You know, I'll tell you about it and you can decide if you can handle it or not, okay
So people hear footsteps when no one is around

(38:29):
Unexplained cold spots and cabinet doors constantly opening after being closed
But it's not just like slowly creeping open. They were described as flying open. Oh, I don't love that
Okay, so I was adjusting my headphones if you're watching on like YouTube or um

(38:49):
I thought about just taking them off so that you wouldn't ruin this for me
A dream that I've had for like 10 minutes
I'm ruining it all
There's an organ in the museum that is supposedly from a brothel
And people have seen a woman in a Victorian dress with red hair playing it

(39:12):
Okay, so she seems pretty cool
She's right here
You know playing the organ
Of famously the coolest instrument to play it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool that they have an organ like I feel like those are not very common
right but like
On top of that how common is it for an organ to have been present in a brothel?

(39:39):
Yeah, I don't know like did the brothel double as if you're home
It's I was it's funny because I was thinking the same thing really and then another another article
Though also referred to it as just a piano. So I'm like, well, was it a piano or was it an organ?
But that article didn't seem like it had legit info in it. So I don't know

(40:00):
So I called it an organ
But it could be maybe we'll have to call the museum because they'll know
Oh
Okay, okay, so do you have an organ or a piano?
Is there any way that we can text or email them? You know how I feel about making phone calls
Yeah, we might I might be able to okay. I like to do the

(40:23):
Doing the phone call though for that kind of thing because it's like well
They have the option to not email you back but if I'm a phone. That's true. You know
Unless they just hang up on you which I
Hope they would never listen. They they run a museum in a gingerbread house
I would hope they would never hang up on anyone. They probably wouldn't they probably they would probably love to answer questions

(40:47):
They have a historical museum. So I feel like if anyone's interested in the historical items
They would like be down to answer questions, but I don't know. Maybe I'll call some day. We'll see stay tuned. All right
I'll be here
Uh, so they've also seen this woman with the red hair standing in the second floor window like peering out as well

(41:09):
Oh
I think people see her from like the outside so they they'll like see her up in the window. Yeah
There is another woman described with the same type of clothing
They don't specifically say she has red hair, but she likes to go through the cabinets
And I also don't know if it's the same one that would make the cabinets fly open

(41:32):
I was if she's like
Going through them and someone close them. She's like hey, how's going through those? What are you doing? I'm in here
busy
Trying to get supper ready
Yeah, so also it made me think of like this really weird
thought

(41:54):
and
Go on
We've heard this a couple of times where I think it was like when we stayed at the lighthouse
There was a woman that went through like the cabinets and stuff there. I think that was one of the things that happened
That sounds vaguely familiar. Yeah, it made me think like what if every time we're searching for something like a piece of our soul like breaks off

(42:16):
And just as like eternally searching for that thing
Okay, then how do I have any soul left?
Do you mean
It's like a whore crook so every time like a piece of your soul right?
God you guys I have no soul left just based on the number of times I couldn't find my keys

(42:36):
I mean it makes sense to me. I feel like when I'm looking for something
I'm in a like a like an altered state
Yes, I were meditating or something. Yeah
So like very interesting like panic meditation. Yeah
And I feel like I have a lot of dreams too. We're just like in that state like where you're like looking like the panic meditation

(42:56):
We just like feel like you're looking for something that you can't find
So I feel like what if I'm dreaming about that but like a piece of my soul is actually still doing that and then like a hundred years from now
Someone is gonna see me looking for something
Oh my god, I'm gonna be such a creepy bitch. What is time?
Can you imagine the number of places that my ADHD ass has just been like

(43:25):
It also makes me think of too like when someone walks into a room and like forgets why they walked in there
Like what if because there's a lot of ghost stories where like a ghost will just like walk into a room and disappear or something random like that like what if those are just like pieces of us lingering

(43:46):
Okay, well now I feel like you're specifically targeting me
It's me too. I get it. That's why I bring it up. So I understand it
That's yeah, that's an interesting thought
Do you have any idea how many times that's already happened to me today?
Yeah, probably a lot

(44:06):
I also love home like that was an interesting thought and it was like my own thought
Hey listen, we're not above being intrigued by our own shower thoughts, okay?
I'm the most interesting person I know I have a running list of those shower thoughts. Oh thank god

(44:26):
We're gonna need them. They're gonna be fun when they come out because they're very weird
So then there's this old lady who sits in a rocking chair and I know how you feel about old ladies and rocking chairs as well
I don't
I don't I don't love it. I don't love it

(44:48):
But she is described as pleasant
so
I think she's just chilling. She's just living her best afterlife
um
Has anyone considered asking her to relocate to a less creepy chair?

(45:09):
I wouldn't want to ask an old lady to relocate anywhere. That is just you just you just leave them be let them
lie where they lie
Okay, just let her just let her be in a rocking chair
So if you lived then that would be something you would have to deal with right yeah

(45:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, or if you were already scooted so far back up into your chair that there was there was no more
Goudage room
Then then you might be at sort of an impasse
I don't know this might be your limit though that might not even
scotch the surface
Last and maybe littlest but not least

(45:55):
a boy with a boy with blonde hair frequency building with
Sense of bay rome cologne and talcum powder accompanying him
I'm sorry. Did you say bay rum? I said bay rum cologne and that's a very specific like as in drinking

(46:15):
rum down on the dock of the bay I
I don't think so this is actually so I
Bay rum it's spelled like bay rum two separate words and
I asked google. I was like okay. I've never heard of this what does bay rum cologne smell like and this is what the AI told me oh

(46:36):
All right, bay rum cologne typically smells like spicy warm and slightly sweet blend of herbs and spices
With prominent notes of west Indian bay leaf clothes cinnamon and sometimes citrus giving off a distinctly masculine and tropical vibe
often associated with classic barber shops. It is not actually like the smell of rum itself

(46:59):
But rather the essence of bay leaf combined with other aromac ingredients
Okay, so I was gonna say it's giving old spice
Hmm and it did say it's different from old spice. I did she want one thing that was like it is no
Well no old spice doesn't even like old spice has like 87 different scents now. Yeah

(47:22):
So I think the the biggest thing is like the the west Indian bay leaf is in like the clove and citrus and stuff
Also, I said aromac and I meant to say aromatic aromatic aromatic. I think I said aromac, which is not a word but aromatic
Allegedly, but I thought that was a pretty good description of like what a the AI came up with is like what this cologne

(47:45):
No, it's like okay. Thank you because that's a very specific smell. It is I feel like that description
tells you everything you need to know
Yeah, and now I'm deeply deeply afraid
And why is this little boy though wearing cologne, but he also smells like like baby powder. That's what talcum powder is right
Ah, I mean

(48:07):
It's not anymore, but I think right. I think those things used to be yes at largely interchangeable
And I assume it had a scent
Because like if it was unscented, why would they even say it smelled like talcum powder so
Right. Yeah, things that are unscented then describing them as having a scent. Yeah

(48:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I assume like baby powder-ish smell
But that also kind of makes sense is there there's this like random cast of characters in this one building
Because it's a museum with like a lot of different antiques, so I don't think these people came with the building
I think they came with like the museum antiques
Oh

(48:50):
Like they're like attached to the specific like artifacts, you mean?
I think so yeah, okay, that makes sense
Because like the old lady in a rocking chair, the woman playing this organ supposedly from a brothel
The little boy, I'm not sure where he came from it could have been anything
But I also didn't see that there was any like fireman spirits around and there totally could be I just and that's a damn shame

(49:15):
I know right
I'm like can we get some firemen up in you?
Like a firehouse. Can you imagine an old tiny fireman?
I just picture them with an axe
Oh, because I'm like all old firemen used to carry axes, right?
I mean presumably I'm just trying to like put the lumberjack image on that
She's like listen, we said we were nasty at the top, so we warned you

(49:41):
We have another gingerbread house in town
It is called the red castle in and it was built in 1860
Isn't it the cutest? I want you to scroll and you're gonna look at some of the pics and then
Does it have a dollhouse of itself?

(50:02):
Well hold on we're gonna talk about that in a minute
So
First off, it's it's called the red castle in so like the building is a bread
But it has the white like gingerbread trim so it really looks like it's frosting
It really does
Like frosting trim and it's kind of like on the on the roof it kind of like dripping down to like you would do

(50:25):
Like icicles yeah, it's so freaking cute
Oh and like just the shape of the windows
I love this place
We're going through these about do you see the one?
So we're looking at the inside down the inside is like very interesting the walls look pink
I'm not sure if they're red or if they're supposed to be pink
They're definitely like a pinkish color that was of the time for sure

(50:48):
There's one that looks like the window is like below part of the room
Do you see that picture it looks so weird to me?
I don't understand and I can't you can't really like make it bigger bigger
I guess we just have to go to my new house
Well actually it's closed which is very sad

(51:11):
I feel like you're taking me on the worst zelo tour
I know I was really sad when I found out that this one was closed because it's so beautiful
And I'll talk I'll talk about it in a little bit too
I'll talk more about it but is it closed because they're preparing for me to move in?
Yeah

(51:33):
I don't know I really don't know why they're actually closed
It's a pity
You did scroll down and you did mention what looks like a dollhouse
Yes
And I have some information on this so in this little blog post that we're looking at
They have amazing pictures. It was called gold country girls
They do like blogs

(51:54):
They do like blogs
We can cut that part out
No leave it I'll do like a playground care flip
I don't know why I said it like that but um
So this is called it's a little like replica of the red castle in
And in this blog post they called it ghost ghost house

(52:16):
Which I thought was like interesting and I was like what's a ghost house I look it up
So these are miniature wooden rec replicas of real historic houses
And they're made by Sheila Thompson in the 90s
And this is like the 1990s not the 1890s because I know we were talking about like the 1800s
So don't get confused

(52:36):
Okay, I mean I was but now I'm good
So if you go to that site I sent you
It just shows like kind of better photos of what these things actually are
So they're really really small and
So cute
Yeah, they're just like little wooden kind of they're kind of like 3D almost
But not quite and they actually all of them have like little hidden skeleton keys

(52:59):
Like in the artwork
That's how you know it's like an original because she would hide like little keys and in all of them
Are you seeing like the other ones? They're so cute. Oh my god
Oh, I was like it's like a wears Waldo type of thing
I must have it
And then written on the back of these is all kinds of the info about the
The house that it was

(53:20):
Representing or the house. It was ghosting
This one this one looks like um
Um, oh god
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the one we went to with Christina that was on ghost
Other man rasa. Yes
It could be it looks like the man rasa
It could be they they had one of like the Winchester mystery house. Oh

(53:43):
Yeah, there's a bunch of cool ones and I don't they're like on eBay still now
I don't think they're that expensive
I guess it might depend on like which house it is
But so we should like get one of each all of them
We should we should look I really it makes me want to go and teaking because I found
So many cool like old weird antique things just like doing research for the podcast and I'm like it makes me feel like

(54:07):
I would be like a better antique or because I would go and like
Look at something I'm like, oh, I know what this is
Oh my god, I want them all I need them really can find out why they were called ghost houses though
And I mean like maybe for like the obvious reason because it was like kind of like a shadow of the home
Like it's just like a little piece of it's a little piece of the house's soul

(54:29):
Ah, I don't think it a bad way. I don't think that would but I don't think it has to be in a bad way
But anyway, so that was cool like why are they called ghost houses though? I want to know and it took me forever to get
Search it because I searched
Ghost houses and it was like
All these haunted houses paranormal hot and like that's not what I'm looking for
Are you sure though?

(54:53):
So yeah, so this place is now sadly closed and I don't know what they plan to do with it
I
I can look it up. I didn't because I just like didn't have time to keep going into stuff. I'm on page nine
So my gosh
But I do know it's closed and
It is a historical house too. It's like the oldest brick home in Nevada city

(55:14):
So I feel like it has and it's gorgeous like why would you I hope they do something with it
She's beautiful. Maybe it's just a private residence now
It could be I actually I didn't I really didn't google it because I was like I there's more stuff
I need to talk about but
This is a paranormal podcast. I don't need to keep going into who owns homes here like I did last episode

(55:36):
I know probably some other nerd egg you want about that. I don't know whatever. I mean I I do want to know
But I did watch a YouTube story
There's like a new story about it and it was posted on YouTube 15 years ago
But the footage looks really old so it looks like it could be older than 15 years old like it ran as a new story

(55:59):
Oh, and in it the the owners are in it and they look really old so my assumption is they just like passed away and the house changed
Oh, and that like they no longer because they ran the end for a little while
and
Uh
So the owners at the time are in this new story and

(56:20):
He says it's a husband and wife and so the husband says when they first got the building
They would just get like kind of odd feelings about it like not bad just kind of like weird
Okay, oh probably like ooh like something watching me or yeah, just like that kind of feeling
And escalated into like a bunch of stuff being misplaced like they would leave something somewhere

(56:45):
And all the sudden it would be like in a different spot
Which is very common for hauntings too. Okay. I feel like that is one of the cruelest ways to haunt someone
It's like gaslighting. Yeah, I feel like we've talked about this
Yes, that's exactly what I was gonna say. I literally feel completely crazy. I'm like is it a ghost?

(57:07):
Am I throwing my own belongings away?
Yeah
And how can you know to like exactly? It's
Unknowable and I know a thing
I hear a noble thing. I hate everything that's unknowable
And they have this super cute courtyard. It's like a little like garden

(57:30):
They call it the garden area, but looks like a little courtyard like it has a couple benches
And he said he was out there one night and he heard a bugle being played from inside the house
Which is like I had to look up what a bugle was. It's a brass instrument similar to a
Trumpet a trumpet. Yeah, I was trying to say tunnel and I don't know why

(57:54):
A brass instrument similar to a trumpet and
So he was hearing that yeah
He was hearing that coming from like inside the house and that's like I think it said one of the instruments they use for like military stuff
I was doing trumpet things. I don't know what I mean
The rusty trombone

(58:16):
Don't earn a dictionary that kids
So anyway, here's this rusty trombone playing from inside the house and he's like what the fuck?
I mean the bugle
Oh, it's all like the chip that you put on your fingers the bugles

(58:36):
Yeah, bugles are yeah, it's that why it's called like a bugle
Is why what I know because of like the instrument. I don't know because it look it has like that horn it that horn shape. Oh
maybe
shower thoughts
But he's like okay, no one inside is like playing a bugle like what is happening but he goes and looks anyway and like nobody's there

(59:02):
And then he hears a story later about how the original owner son like to play his bugle up on the balcony
I was gonna say was he a bugle boy
He was a bugle boy and he liked they said
How did they put it in the video?
He liked to
I don't know how they put it a really weird way in the video like he liked to put on the town or something like that

(59:28):
And they meant like he'd like to like go up and like serenade the town with those bugle because he would do it on the balcony
Well, yeah, I mean if you you know if you're doing it out on your balcony and it's a fucking bugle so yeah
This is weird is it was weird the way they worded it though
Yeah, I wish I could remember the specific I don't have the YouTube video right in front of me now so that's neither here nor there

(59:56):
Oh neither here nor there
But then he says one time he saw someone with a long gray skirt
Kind of like walking into another room so he was like in a room
I think he saw out of like the corner of his eye
He said he saw like the flash of
Someone's skirt like going into different room
Okay, so he called out to his wife thinking it was her

(01:00:18):
And she answered from the floor above
So it's clearly she was not on the same floor as him and did not just walk into the other room. Do they have a daughter?
No
Yeah, and I think if they had had guests or whatever they would have maybe mentioned that but yeah, I think no nobody was there

(01:00:40):
Maybe they forgot maybe maybe they forgot
Totally totally
Totally the small town with probably not a lot of guests in the hotel these two people taking care of the inn
They forget about a guest right
I'm so cold and itchy right now

(01:01:00):
I'm just
It was kind of like a bed and breakfast so like they would know I think if they had guests
probably probably
Not like a standard like hotel where there's just like a bunch of guests and you don't know you know
You don't know who's who this is like a smaller type deal
So this is apparently known as the gray lady

(01:01:24):
And they think she is a nanny that used to look after the original owners 11 kids
Jesus Christ that's
It's a lot of kids seven of them were adopted
So like it's still a lot of kids, but like at least you know, she wasn't pushing 11 of them out or cooter, you know

(01:01:47):
I just yeah, that's that's a lot. I don't like your odds
Um in this era of like surviving childbirth 11 times. Yeah. Yeah
So only four four
Yeah, four of them were that's still a lot
That's a lot

(01:02:09):
My dad is one of eight
So many it does kind of make sense though like why they built because this was originally built as a family home
So now it like kind of makes sense why they needed such a big house with so many rooms that now it can be an in yeah
Uh

(01:02:30):
Because they have a literal gaggle of children
Yeah, so like 13 people theoretically like plus a nanny and like whoever who knows how many other like
Mades and stuff I mean had so I would hope you have a live in nanny with a live in children
So they did but sadly the nanny passed away very suddenly and they think that she like might not have wanted to leave the kids

(01:02:56):
Because they were all very close. I know it's really sad
Um they they said that they all loved each other
Well, that's so sad
Yeah, I know so she like stuck around to like kind of look after them
But now obviously all the kids are gone. It's decade what is it decades later? Yeah, how long is the decade? I don't know 10 years

(01:03:20):
Okay, yeah, it's decades later. Famously 10 years long
Uh, not just a hat right
Now she'll like kind of well back before it was closed obviously this was when it was running as an in but she would kind of check on and care for the guests as if they were the children

(01:03:42):
Oh, that's so so
It is very sweet so she would come and like you know middle of the night like sit on the end of your bed
Okay, well, that's over over you watching you sleep
No, I could she might even
gently brush a hand over your forehead as if she's like

(01:04:02):
Checking for a fever. Maybe she's just you know like all so cute
Bitch unless that gets rid of wrinkles you better get your cold dead hands off me
She's just trying to you know be there is comfort sweet stuff sweet stuff
I knew I would get you with that I

(01:04:24):
I do think the intentions are sweet, but it is creepy to have someone come and sit on the end of your bed
I mean or have her over you or touch your forehead in the night
I listen
You know how I feel about unsolicited touch
Yeah
Yeah
But she's manny she just her

(01:04:45):
Her goal in life and afterlife is to care for other people so you get it even my mom will tell you
If you're gonna go in for the hog you better say I'm I'm gonna hug you
I always go are you a hugger? I'm a hugger. Are you a hugger if you're not you're telling me right now because I'm coming in
And I'm like hey, I'm not normally like a super huggy person, but when somebody's like I'm a hogger

(01:05:12):
Do you want a hog and I'm like
Okay
You can't say no
No, I usually get excited because I'm like it's nice of people to ask if you're a hugger to ask and then I'm like that hug has a good vibes
And now I want the hug
That makes sense. Yeah, it's kind of like a reverse psychology

(01:05:32):
One guest was staying in the nanny's old room and woke up at the witching hour 3 a.m
And looked out the window to that cute little courtyard
And saw a woman in a Victorian dress
And she woke up her husband and was like come look at this
But she disappeared before the husband could go witness it

(01:05:56):
But I'm like she's since they're in her room. I was like was she just like wandering around like oh there's people in my room
Like I'll go to the courtyard
Maybe maybe
I wonder she'd checked on them too. That makes me wonder yeah, it was her room. So maybe she wouldn't have checked on them
Oh, yeah, maybe yeah

(01:06:17):
She's like you're not children
Yeah, or maybe if she was like she made her rounds checking the kids at 3 a.m
She's like oh, I gotta go like have a sig down at the courtyard
I feel like relatable. I don't know
So I think there is still ghost tours you can go on in this town and they have like a self-guided audio tour for purchase

(01:06:44):
I think it was like after 2020 they started doing the self-guided ones
So I'm not sure if they do like the actual guided tours anymore
The guy who started at all Mike Leon, he wrote a book
And it was all about like the hauntings in these two like neighboring towns and it's called haunted Nevada City and grass Valley

(01:07:06):
Oh
And we are definitely revisiting grass Valley at some point
Oh
Okay, that sounds really familiar and I feel like from my
Research and oh, I can't put my finger on why so now I'm really intrigued
I don't either because I kind of skimmed and I was like oh, and I'm gonna save this for like some something different

(01:07:32):
So yeah, we'll come back to that city, but there's also a ton about Nevada City that I like a ton that I didn't even touch on
So we might have to revisit that again too. I might have to get the book, but it was like 20 bucks and I was like well
$20 for this little book right now. Maybe not
See

(01:07:53):
Maybe someday
Well, that was all I had for Nevada City for now
For now
But should we do some tarot about it? Yeah
We're doing tarot for Nevada City obviously it's a different day. Yeah
Um
And I'm different out the

(01:08:14):
Also, we wanted to be together to do the tarot and then uh, hi, it's me sick again. So I'm stuck in my bedroom
Yeah, so anyway, we are using the tattoo deck because it remind it gave us Lola vibes

(01:08:35):
Lola the spider dancer Spanish dancer
Italian spider
Trenchla. Dancer.
We're thinking Nevada City we're thinking I have to sneeze all of a sudden I don't know
Um
Yeah, oh we talked about the the firehouse and the gen it was like gingerbread style

(01:08:57):
Yes, there was that red castle in that was gingerbread style
So pretty
Lola okay, I'm sending you all the vines
Hopefully you have more vives than me because we know what happens when we get sick. Oh yeah
I'm doing my best at least I'm not pulling the card
Oh god

(01:09:17):
So how do you want me to to pick this? I've just done like a real like 52 card pickup situation down here
Feel or just put your hands and all over it get in there touch them all feel it out. I've chosen
Oh
What do we get? Okay, I'm gonna flip it right tight up
Okay, I can't see it. Can you see it?

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Oh, is it a dancing woman? Oh, I guess she's not dancing, but she could be honestly
She kind of looks like she is it's sort of a drop it low kind of a twerking. She's yeah, she's working
She's got those spiders out of her hoo ha. Oh
Oh, I don't like that for us. She's queuing the spiders out
I think I'm in a fever dream right now

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Yeah
I need to sip of my medicine ball
Oh boy
Okay, so we got the star, but in the reverse
We got the star too. Oh my gosh. This is just such a low level vibes
I think so in that song doesn't it say something about yellow feathers in our hair and we were talking about that song

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Yeah
Were they yellow? I'll look up the lyrics. Yeah, you do your thing. Okay
I was like
So I have our keywords
Happiness, hope, light at the end of the tunnel and good fortune
This lovely card often portrays a nude female figure in or beside a pool of water

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In some decks she pours water from two jugs or chalices
In the writer wait Smith deck she pours the contents of one pitcher into a stream and the other onto the ground
Showing the connection between the two feminine elements water and earth
Stars shine in the background sometimes in a circle or a halo-like formation around her

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She represents truth and purity
The jugs contain the waters of life. We see shooting stars as harbingers of good luck
We wish upon the star where the star is a universal symbol of hope
Getting this card is like looking up at the bright starry sky on a clear night and seeing all of the magnificence of the universe

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Ah
This is a time of fulfillment
Good fortune creative inspiration and spiritual growth
When you receive help from unseen forces and wishes come true
I'm it's starting to remind me too. I think of the first story that we talked about the uh
The national hotel where it was like

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It was like last night. I dreamt I was at the national hotel
And then we got like the stars that just reminds me of like starry dream land
But if I'm recalling
So we did talk about quite a few females in this episode we talked about the
That the firehouse there that's now a museum. There's a piano or an organ that used to be from a brothel and they've seen a woman playing it

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There's like the gray lady
There's a lot of ladies in this one so
Interesting we got a lady on the card. I think so
Okay, I'm going to read you the interpretation
trust life and its processes and yourself
The reverse star can mean you're following your path in a private way instead of shining your light into the outer world

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The blessings you receive may be spiritual rather than material
Which I hope I don't I don't want to interpret that as
That means I'm not going to get to live in the firehouse
I mean, I don't know it's a museum now
Perhaps you feel devitalized uninspired or low on self-esteem at this time

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After you attune yourself to what your soul needs you'll feel more energized and in harmony with who you truly are
Inner reading about money you may feel disappointed because a hoped for payment or payoff gets delayed
Even though you're trying hard your efforts don't bear much fruit the time may not be right yet. Don't give up

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Well that red castle in you know was we were talking about it closed and how sad it was because it's like a historic
It's like one of the only brick
Or the oldest brick
Building in that town, so it's like a pretty historic place, but it's closed and like we have no clue what they're gonna be doing with it
So yeah, I have hope still that they'll do something with it like let me move in

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Yeah
If the reading is about your job you may be hiding your light under a bushel
Perhaps you don't realize your true abilities and thus aren't getting ahead as quickly as you could
The star reversed can also represent disillusionment
disenchantment or lack of inspiration makes me think of like Lola's earlier life too because she like

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I we I didn't really go into it
But she like totally reinvented herself into this new thing
That kind of makes sense then
Like I feel like maybe she was feeling this way and then like had to totally reinvent herself to like get out of this feeling
Yeah, that makes sense though that
Hmm
In a reading about love this card can mean your expectations are unrealistic

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You're searching for perfection which can never be attained or it can indicate you aren't seeing your partner or your relationship clearly
That gives me like the nanny vibes like she's still wandering around trying to be this perfect nanny and like take care of all the kids
But she's not seeing it for what it is like she's not here anymore, so she's just stuck

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Going through those motions
Wow
Yeah, like was taking care of the guests when all the kids were long gone and
hmm
Interesting, I don't know my brain's doing something hopefully
I think so I think so
I know you're doing your best and then I'm gonna

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Totally ruin your day
As we record my next episode, so you know
I know
Oh, so I did look up the lyrics and it was yellow feathers in her hair, so and they were like can I see the card again?
Oh, yeah, is she like wrapped in the snake or is that the water?

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Uh, it looks like a ribbon. Oh, okay, and it does look like there's like yellow in her hair
Do you see that oh cool? Yeah, it almost looks like a crown, but I think it's like one of the stars
It's just funny because like that wasn't part of the story at all the yellow hair

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But like then we associated it with that low-ass song and then like ended up pulling
It's all connected me
What can I say? Well, I feel like that totally worked out. I feel like every time we end. I'm like wow that really worked out
Weird
All right, should we do the thing?

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Have a creepy ass day. I hope we'll see you next Tuesday
No, we'll be here. We'll be okay. We missed you already her name is Lola
She was a showgirl with yellow feathers in her hair and a dress
And a dress cut down to there. (Cassie mumbling wrong lyrics)

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It didn't even rhyme
Yeah, because it's her dress cut down to there
I was trying to
Make it funny and it didn't happen. This is improv Caitlyn. "Yes, and" me. I thought I was doing that.
Oh, derriere. I was trying to make a derriere joke. Oh, I was like I know

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There is something that rhymes with that and I can make it butt related because I know how you feel about butts right now
All about the butts
All about that booty. Okay, we yeah, should we stop? Yeah, we're done now