April 1, 2025 • 48 mins
This week, we dive into the eerie and eccentric history of Long Beach, Washington—home to Marsh’s Free Museum and its most famous resident: Jake the Alligator Man! 🐊👀 We uncover the mysteries, myths, and bizarre tales surrounding Jake, from tabloid headlines to wild legends of his alleged past life as a whiskey-drinking, cigar-smoking sideshow star. Is Jake a cannibalistic cryptid, a carnival oddity, or just an elaborate piece of art?
Plus, we explore Marsh’s Free Museum, a treasure trove of taxidermy, antique arcade games, and bizarre curiosities—think shrunken heads, a two-headed calf, and even a roulette wheel from the Alaskan Gold Rush. But that’s not all! We take a spooky detour into the "Graveyard of the Pacific," where we unravel the ghostly history of the Admiral Benson shipwreck and the museum’s strange connection to the Cliff House in San Francisco.
Get ready for a weird, witty, and spine-chilling journey through Washington’s strangest seaside town. And tell us—is it Jake the Alligator-Man or Jake Man-Alligator?
🔮 Subscribe now for haunted history, paranormal lore, and true crime with a twist!
Visit our website! Find us on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Patreon, & more! If you have any true crime, paranormal, or witchy stories you'd like to share with us & possibly have them read (out loud) on an episode, email us at pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com or use this link. There are so many ways that you can support the show: BuyMeACoffee, Spreaker, or by leaving a rating & review on Apple Podcasts. Sources
Plus, we explore Marsh’s Free Museum, a treasure trove of taxidermy, antique arcade games, and bizarre curiosities—think shrunken heads, a two-headed calf, and even a roulette wheel from the Alaskan Gold Rush. But that’s not all! We take a spooky detour into the "Graveyard of the Pacific," where we unravel the ghostly history of the Admiral Benson shipwreck and the museum’s strange connection to the Cliff House in San Francisco.
Get ready for a weird, witty, and spine-chilling journey through Washington’s strangest seaside town. And tell us—is it Jake the Alligator-Man or Jake Man-Alligator?
🔮 Subscribe now for haunted history, paranormal lore, and true crime with a twist!
Visit our website! Find us on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Patreon, & more! If you have any true crime, paranormal, or witchy stories you'd like to share with us & possibly have them read (out loud) on an episode, email us at pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com or use this link. There are so many ways that you can support the show: BuyMeACoffee, Spreaker, or by leaving a rating & review on Apple Podcasts. Sources
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:00):
In 1978, Wellington Marsh senior passed away, but his museum is still in the family.
(00:08):
And Wellington must have had a soft spot for Jake too, because his likeness is carved
on his headstone.
Oh my god!
To which his granddaughter says, "Well, 100 years from now, you'll be like, 'What the hell
is that?'" and quote.
I don't think I need to wait 100 years. I feel as though my default reaction is, 'What
(00:31):
the hell is that?'
Hi, Caitlyn.
[BEEP]
[LAUGHTER]
I was like, "That would be ready to start."
I know, and I was like, "I thought I was," and then that just snuck out of there.
(00:52):
Hi, Cassie.
Was it from the Cortado?
Probably.
Coffee makes me really burpy.
Cortado cult.
Can we please do like a bleep button on the burp?
I love you so funny.
Well, this is PNW, Hanson Homicides, where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and
(01:13):
all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.
Or the PNW.
If you're in a nasty.
And hi, creepy people. We know you're nasty. I think we forgot to say hi to you after we
said hi to each other.
And there's a burp situation.
Uh-oh.
Yeah.
But we hope you stick around for the end because we're going to do a little tarot for a little
(01:36):
deeper insight into our topic, which we do in every episode.
Yeah.
Well, before we start today, I did want to mention something.
I think we kind of chatted about it last night.
But Morbid, covered crater lake.
Oh, yes, yes.
Okay.
I remember this.
Yeah.
And I just, I thought it was interesting to bring up because I, I almost like didn't listen
(01:57):
to it because I was like, oh, you know, obviously I've researched like the shit out of it.
I know every detail of the story.
Like, I've heard it a million times, you know.
Yeah.
So it's like, oh, me.
I'll just skip that one.
But I was like, no, I'm going to listen to it because like, I love the spooky episodes.
Obviously.
Yeah.
And it's just, it's so different.
And like, everyone has their own like different take on things and different commentary.
(02:20):
And so I just thought it was interesting to bring up like even if you heard a topic a million
times, like everyone does it completely differently.
I agree.
I mean, I think people just have their own personalities.
Yeah.
Their own takes.
They do?
So, I mean, some people like, we're not all those copies of each other.
Carbon copies.
But yeah, it was really funny, really entertaining for me still.
(02:44):
And yeah, so I thought I'd bring it up.
Excellent.
And I, oh, the other reason is that's kind of like why we, one of the reasons we started
a PNW podcast because I would always get excited when other pods would talk about our,
our, our, our neck of the woods, you know.
So it's still exciting when they do.
(03:05):
Yeah.
Yeah.
They know about us.
Well, today we are going to be talking about a topic from the PNW.
That we're old.
We're going to Long Beach, Washington.
Oh.
That's a long beach.
Is about three hours southwest of Seattle on the Washington coast.
(03:25):
Population, 1756 as of 2023.
Really?
That's it.
Yeah.
I mean, like a small, you know, beach town.
Yeah.
I've been there that just seems really small.
Yeah.
It's pretty small.
I'm sure it's like full of tourists though, you know.
That, yeah, that's it.
It's like, seem bigger.
Popular for its boardwalk, drive on beach and the Washington State International Kite
(03:48):
Festival.
Through.
And the archway declaring the world's longest beach.
Hmm.
Which is actually true.
I was going to ask.
Although it's technically the world's longest beach on a peninsula.
Oh.
It's at, it's 28 miles long.
And if you're wondering like me, what the longest beach of the world is, it is.
(04:11):
And I can't roll my R, so I apologize.
Praya Do Cassino and Brazil.
Brazil.
Praya.
150 miles long.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
It's so much longer.
Yeah.
I just rolled my R's pretty good.
I don't know.
That sounds fun.
I want to go to there.
Can we go?
Can we go to Brazil?
(04:31):
The quad trip.
Yeah.
Why not?
The subject of our topic today has been dubbed the Crowned Jewel.
Another crowned jewel is something.
All right.
Of a place called Marsh's Free Museum.
Hmm.
Where, quote, lies a collection as a wonderous as it is bizarre.
(04:52):
Okay.
And quote.
Sounds about right for you.
Probably.
It really actually reminds me of the museum of the weird that we went to in Austin.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
It's, that was cool.
Pretty similar to that.
Okay.
Full of oddities and taxidermy and like the two headed calf, a one-eyed lamb, an eight-legged
(05:16):
lamb or spider lamb.
If you're nasty.
Wow.
That is nasty.
I don't know.
I just called it spider lamb because like eight legs.
Well, yeah.
I mean, that makes sense.
I don't know if anyone else calls it that.
They should.
They should.
I made up a new thing.
They have things like shrunken heads, human skeletons and antiques, like a roulette wheel from
(05:42):
the Alaskan Gold Rush.
Oh.
And I am like, I don't know what's wrong with my brain.
I kept reading it as Russian roulette wheel.
Oh.
And I was like, they had just like a wheel of guns.
Like, what?
Like the gold rush was like, what does a Russian roulette wheel?
(06:03):
The gold rush.
Right.
It's a gold rush.
Like that's just brutal.
I'll tell you.
So I read it like 10 times and I was like, oh my god, it literally just says roulette wheel.
Like, I'm so dumb.
Your brain really wanted to take that to the next level.
They were just gambling.
They weren't shooting.
Well, they might have been shooting.
(06:25):
I mean, there was probably some of that too.
There could have been wheel of guns.
Who knows?
Who knows what was going on in that gold rush?
I mean, the Wild West.
Am I right?
There's antique arcade games where you can get a fortune or measure the intensity of your
romantic passions.
Ooh.
And I do have a photo.
(06:47):
Test your passion.
Passion.
Test your passion, factor, chair.
Oh, okay, say that.
Literally ever again.
Test your passion, factor, chair.
I have a chair.
I have a chair.
Oh.
Do you notice anything weird about this, chair?
The slit right there in the middle of the seat.
Why is there a hole in the seat?
Y'all.
I don't know how I feel about that, but I don't think it's positive.
(07:11):
Isn't that weird?
I assume it's just from people sitting on it through time, but it seems kind of weird that
it's like a test your passion, chair, and there's a fucking hole in it.
You know what that reminds me of?
The glory hole?
It's always sunny.
Oh.
The exercise bike that Mack makes.
Oh, my God.
We need you to describe it to us.
(07:32):
No, I'm going to need someone to get a YouTube clip of, oh, yeah, I need YouTube clip.
There are no words.
You just have to have visual already.
Moving on from the glory hole chair.
On November 9, 1993, the headline on the front page of the weekly world news was, quote,
(07:59):
half human, half alligator discovered in Florida swamp.
Okay.
Exclamation point.
I mean, the location at least makes sense.
Right.
That's all I got.
I'll show you the photo.
That looks totally real.
Yeah, it's interesting, right?
Uh-huh.
(08:19):
So the article claims this is, quote, "man's missing link, a grotesque hissing creature
with the head and upper body of a human and the dragon-like lower body of an alligator."
That's good.
Has been captured alive just miles from here in the big cypress swamp end quote.
(08:41):
Okay.
So I thought it was funny that they like said, dragon-like lower body of an alligator.
Yeah.
Just say alligator.
Just say alligator because dragons aren't real.
Yeah, I agree that that also struck me as odd.
I'm like, you could have just said alligator.
Just leave it at alligator.
If the word you're looking for is alligator, well, there it is.
(09:04):
There it is.
Just use that one.
The article goes on to say, quote, "Of course, an intense search is underway to locate
any other gator man creatures."
End quote.
Of course.
Or a hunt them down.
For the years, there was several other articles on this same gator man from the Florida swamp.
(09:26):
I'm going to read you some of them.
Oh boy.
Half alligator, half human kills Miami man and escapes from laboratory.
Laboratory.
It's alive.
Yeah.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Well, that's one of the, that's one of the, oh, okay.
It's alive.
(09:47):
Yeah.
It's alive.
Half human, half alligator captured in Florida everglades.
And then, last but not least, half alligator, half human gives birth.
Oh, okay.
They claim he had a little baby alligator man.
Okay.
Okay.
The bottom half is alligator.
(10:10):
So to me, you don't, they don't, they don't give birth.
They lay eggs.
You know, so I am not going to try to analyze the mysteries of nature here.
Okay.
I was going to say maybe that's the wrong thread to pull that.
(10:30):
I don't know.
I don't know.
Nature is miraculous.
All right.
Out there just wild and, but this is not just any old half human, half alligator.
No, this is none other than Jake, the alligator man.
Okay.
The crowned jewel of Marsh's free museum.
(10:51):
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
The picture used for these stories was actually stolen from a souvenir postcard sold
at the museum.
Oh.
Okay.
Which they've now sold over 30,000 by the way.
Oh, yeah, I bet.
But it did put Jake on the map as one of the founding fathers of Freaks right up there
(11:16):
with the Fiji mermaid.
Great.
Love that.
Yeah.
Have you seen the Fiji mermaid?
I think so.
I've heard of it.
I don't know if I've actually ever seen the original.
Oh.
Alrighty.
It's very convincing.
I'm just going to play with these wires to comfort myself because I forgot my rock.
(11:41):
So this is Jake, the alligator man at Marcia's free museum in his enclosure.
And I'll show you more pictures later.
I can't wait.
There's so many pictures.
Hopefully.
Besides the kind of obvious fact that he is a mummified, a seemingly mummified, half-man,
half-alligator, not much is known about how Jake came to be in this state.
(12:05):
You don't say.
Yeah.
Not like the state of Washington, but just like his state of being, you know, existence.
Yeah.
How did Jake come into this world?
No one really knows.
His life prior to being purchased in 1962 to be a feature of the Marsh's unique collection
(12:26):
remains a mystery, which seems to be part of Jake's allure.
Sure.
It's very mysterious man.
We all like a mysterious man, right?
A man of mystery.
But naturally, people have their theories and stories.
Sort of a chicken or the alligator, chicken or the egg.
The dinosaur, the dragon?
Yeah.
(12:47):
Yeah.
Go with that.
Some of the activities people claim that Jake was up to when he was alive, it's alive!
Are things like hanging out in New Orleans brothels, smoking cigars, drinking whiskey, performing
in carnivals, terrifying anyone who came across him in the sand dunes of Pakistan or casually
(13:09):
just being a serial cannibal?
Oh.
Some of those make me real uncomfortable.
The sand dunes in Pakistan was very specific.
Yeah.
I mean, how's he getting to Pakistan, by the way?
They think that's where he came from.
I really don't know.
Okay.
Nobody knows.
(13:30):
It's a mystery.
Sure is.
Sure is.
But the people of Long Beach embrace their weird little unofficial mascot.
Okay.
Hopefully by now everyone knows one like we say weird, it's totally a compliment.
Oh, absolutely.
I think Jake is the coolest.
This is a pretty high weirdness factor.
(13:51):
Oh yeah.
High weirdness.
They really love him in this town and you'll see I break for Jake bumper stickers.
Oh, that's cute.
I did have pictures.
I don't see an I break for Jake bumper sticker, but I see like this is one of their stickers
that they sell at the museum.
Oh my.
It's my friend Jake and it has a you know, cartoon of him Long Beach, Washington.
(14:16):
And then there's also like a shirt with his silhouette on it.
March is free museum.
It says establish in 1921.
I think we'll get there.
Honestly, I think the silhouette is more horrifying.
I think so too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause it's like what the fuck is this?
Yeah.
I think silhouettes are often more horrifying.
(14:37):
Like that's like shadow people are scary because like you can't see their features, you know?
That's true.
He's also been given a key to the city.
Where does he keep his key for the city?
In his alligator butt.
Around his neck.
I don't know.
In his little enclosure, maybe a buried in the sand.
We don't know what he Jake's up to.
They've even celebrated his birthday since 2007.
(15:00):
Oh.
Now with a weekend festival.
It used to be like just kind of like a small birthday party, but it evolved into a weekend
long festival.
It's become a whole big Shindig.
At this festival, there is live music, a vintage car show.
Okay.
And the Burlesque Bachelor party.
(15:23):
What is that exactly?
Well, yeah.
Like why does Jake need a bachelor party, you ask?
Well because after that is the bride of Jake Beauty Pageant.
Okay.
Where women compete to be Jake's bride.
Excellent.
They do say it's more of like a funny lighthearted talent show than like a beauty pageant.
(15:48):
But I do have pictures.
Oh, oh boy.
So here is Jake at one of his birthday parties.
It's called little hat on.
They take him out.
Okay, that person who is also in the shot their face is almost more horrifying than oh,
Jake with his girls.
(16:08):
No.
Jake party and drinkin.
Okay.
There's a very sexy photo of Jake and a woman on a picnic blanket.
Okay.
I was going to say this is very like weekend at Bernies, but that is just too weird.
Isn't it amazing?
And here's Jake with this key to the city around his neck.
Oh.
(16:29):
That's where you keep your key to the city.
That's right.
You don't have one.
You know what?
That's true.
That's true.
That's true.
Valid criticism.
Maybe we'll have to see if we can find an alligator or something.
Well, it's funny.
You say that.
It's because now that I have given away what's it?
(16:54):
I have.
Okay.
All right.
Alligator feeds.
From New Orleans.
How cute.
And you know, that's where Jake liked to hang out supposedly in New Orleans brothels.
So which is I have a lot of concerns.
Yeah.
Follow up questions potentially about.
I will save those for later.
(17:17):
So since no one really knows how old Jake is since they don't know when he was born, where
he came from, how long he's been around, they celebrate his 75th every year.
On or around August 1st.
So he's only oh also that's another significant date in your life.
(17:42):
Yeah.
Ruh.
I don't know.
Do people know that you're wedding date?
I think so.
I think so too.
I think we talked about it.
I think anybody cares.
Yeah.
I just don't want like out your wedding data.
Yeah.
And by the way, this was top secret before now, but I take it very don't I guess first.
So this year we can't celebrate your anniversary.
We will have to celebrate Jake's birthday party.
(18:03):
75.
I can't celebrate my first wedding anniversary.
I have to celebrate Jake.
He's turning 75 all again.
I'm sure my husband will be fine with that.
Let's go.
That would be fun.
I feel like that makes sense too.
Like with all of the attention he gets that he is a Leo.
(18:23):
Oh.
But yeah, that branding is it's it's it's on point.
Jake used to attend his birthday parties, which you saw on the photos.
But now he's actually well, some of the photos you may have seen the real Jake now he's too fragile
to attend his parties.
Yes, I see in the glass case.
(18:44):
Especially since the last party he did make an appearance at.
He ended up on the missing mangator list.
Okay, so I would assume that's a short list.
Yeah, there was it was probably one just him.
Yeah, you did get him back thankfully, but the police were involved.
(19:06):
But don't worry, there is a stunt Jake.
They call the party or excellent.
So most of those pictures I showed you was like the party or Jake.
Okay, well, that's fitting.
We're doing stuff.
Now, I know all the stories about Jake's life sounds kind of out there.
(19:28):
Obviously, it's all allegedly Jake's early life, you know, the New Orleans stuff, the brothels,
the sand dunes, Pakistan.
Yeah, I mean, it could be a little bit of a stretch, but you know what ifs.
Sorry, if you heard dog barking in the background once in a while, we'll try to get her to shut
up.
Yeah, we make no promises.
(19:51):
Could you come up here and lay down quietly?
Come on, baby.
That's what oh, she's barking at the little deer.
Oh, there's like four of them down there.
Look at their little butts.
Look at them.
There's the kids.
Oh, yeah, one just pulled.
Oh, such a magical place.
Okay, and I know today that this episode is being released happens to be that one very
(20:17):
special, tricky day of the year.
Oh, so right about now is maybe when you're expecting me to say those three little words.
April Fool's bitch.
Oh, but I actually cannot because the story's true.
(20:38):
I was like, I'm gonna have to figure out the rotation here in advance and take this episode
out of your schedule.
It was like, we're taking April Fool's off every year for ever.
No, we're not.
It's too good.
I know though that like this, like all of this, like having a bride of Jake, like beauty
(21:00):
passion, this sounds like it could be like an April Fool's joke.
It really does.
It really does.
We do a photo evidence.
So I mean, nothing is to be said about his, his before life, you know, with all that
shenanigans, obviously, you know, maybe that's, there's not a lot of truth in that, but all
(21:21):
the rest of it is true.
And now I feel like I have to prove it to you by telling you how Marsh's free museum got
started.
Okay.
So picture it long beach 1921.
The 20s.
Wellington Marsh senior opens an ice cream shop and candy shop and then a tavern and then
(21:44):
kind of giving Bob's burgers.
He opens a temporary burger stand for crowds that drew to Gawk at a shipwreck.
Oh, doesn't that sound like something like Bob's burgers would do?
Honestly, it's so 1920s of it.
I just, I can't, which then let him to open up a restaurant and bar.
Okay.
(22:05):
Well, I mean, sure.
He's like, listen, this whole temporary thing has worked out well.
What if we, what if we just, what if it was permanent made that ship permanent?
I thought the shipwreck was kind of interesting too.
Okay.
So this is the shipwreck and it was kind of giving like Titanic fire.
Yeah.
This is kind of crazy.
(22:26):
This is why I thought it was interesting.
So I'll tell you a little bit about it.
It was a 300 feet passenger liner steamship carrying 39 passengers and 65 crew members named
the Admiral Benson, which we compared the Benson hotel to the Titanic.
Oh, that is weird.
(22:47):
It's just kind of like a full circle mismatch.
Yeah.
One of those synchronized things.
It is considered one of the biggest shipwrecks in the area known as the graveyard of the Pacific.
So it was pretty big wreck.
Yeah.
It was obviously a few other wrecks to be known as the graveyard of the Pacific.
(23:10):
I would say.
So people watched it there for days because it was stuck and they couldn't get it out.
That is so crazy.
Yeah.
So that's why there was a burger stand because people were sitting there watching this thing.
But it's not still there.
I don't know.
It's not still there.
I think it either like got destroyed or they destroyed it to move it out of there.
(23:32):
Like it.
Yeah.
The beach was later named Benson Beach.
So back to Wellington's new restaurant.
This was during the Depression when people couldn't really afford their tabs so they would
pay with items of interest or as like a placeholder until they could pay their bill.
So I think that's kind of like a pawn shop or you like give them something in exchange.
(23:58):
I don't know.
I was like a placeholder.
Like you either keep this or I'll come back and call my bill.
Yeah.
That's the word I'm thinking.
Yeah.
Thank you.
So Wellington would put these items on the wall and it sort of drew people in to come and
look at like the random weird stuff on the wall that people would leave there.
And that was the start of Marsh's free museum.
Oh my God.
(24:19):
In 1935 he opened the museum and its own building next to the world's largest frying pan and
world's largest razor clam.
Okay.
And I actually have a pick of the frying pan and that's Wellington.
He's like in the frying pan.
In the frying pan and I'll read you what it says quote, "Marsh senior spread eagled in
(24:44):
front of the world where the frying pan to show its size."
I mean it is accurate.
And they do mean spread eagle like arms.
But when I think spread eagle I think legs and it's like showing its size when I think
it's funny.
But he is spread eagle with his arms.
In 1968 Wellington's children bought Jake the alligator man from a local antique dealer
(25:10):
for $750.
Today's money is $6,848.36.
So I think I'd be pretty upset.
There's a point to end nearly $7,000 on that but it's not like not a small amount.
And at first they were like this is too much and actually left.
(25:30):
But Mrs. Marsh was infatuated with Jake so she persuaded her husband to go back and buy
him.
Okay.
So I don't know Jake the lady's man.
I mean, really?
Saying something.
Wow.
Before that Jake's first known origin was the cliff house in San Francisco.
(25:52):
Which there's a lot of info on that and we will be coming back to that in the future.
Oh, I'm not going to tell you anymore about the cliff house in San Francisco right now.
Right now.
Then in 1972 they moved to a newly built location across the street from the frying pan and all
that.
(26:12):
And I think the frying pan and razor clams are still there as far as I know.
And then in 2010 thanks to a senior project they installed the world's largest chopsticks
30 feet long in front of Marsh's free museum.
Oh my gosh.
So they still got free.
They still got big old biggest things outside their museum.
(26:35):
I love that.
In 1978, Wellington Marsh senior passed away but his museum is still in the family.
And Wellington must have had a soft spot for Jake too because his likeness is carved on
his headstone.
Oh my gosh.
To which his granddaughter says, well, 100 years from now, you'll be like, what the hell is
(26:58):
that?
End quote.
I don't think I need to wait 100 years.
I feel as though my default reaction is what the hell is that?
No one really cares how Jake came to be and something it's better not to know.
Oh.
Gives him that.
The mystique.
(27:19):
But if you're a knowledge seeking bitch like me, you must know.
I need to know.
I mostly wanted to know that this wasn't like a house of a thousand corpses situation where
they turned white shrewt into fish boy.
I know you probably haven't seen this movie.
No.
And all is that sounds terrible.
(27:40):
So the rain Wilson was in this movie and they're murderers and they so they like, they make
him into a fish boy for their like oddity.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They put like tail on them.
Yeah.
It's it's gruesome.
Yeah.
I can imagine.
(28:00):
Yeah.
So yeah, I wanted to know like this wasn't like a real purse like a real head, you know.
I was concerned.
Yeah.
But it is not it is not a person or creature.
It's art.
Most people think that this might be the artwork of Homer Tate and this is someone who did
very similar artwork in the 40s and 50s.
(28:25):
He was the top supplier for tourist traps inside show attraction items.
Okay.
Okay.
Which for the record, I am a sucker for tourist trap.
And I don't think it's like a negative thing.
I think it's so fun.
Well, it just depends on what you're looking for.
Yeah.
I mean, you can take trips where you're going to go and you're going to eat it.
(28:45):
Like all of the fun, so you just risk rolls.
And then there are going to be trips where you eat like chili cheese fries and go and
see the largest frying pan or or jake gale get her man.
Yeah.
Some of the things he made were like shrunken head replicas because obviously you can't
have real like shrunken heads.
Yeah.
(29:05):
Wolf Boy, which is in season six episode two of American pickers.
And the thing which resides at the Bowen travel center in Texas Canyon, Arizona.
Okay.
Which is apparently so remote that everything is reading about it specifies that it's about
(29:28):
20 miles east of Benson, Arizona.
Oh, it's not weird.
Another fucking Benson in the story.
Yeah, that's weird.
And it's like, I just thought it was interesting.
Like it really doesn't have anything to it's not in Benson, but like it's so remote that
you have to specify where it's at.
So like that's the only way we can help give you sort of a geolocation.
(29:52):
20 miles east of Benson.
Alrighty.
So now that we've come full circle with all the Benson's.
Yeah.
Really?
That is the end of my scale detail.
But I am left with one question.
Is it Jake the alligator man or Jake the man alligator?
(30:13):
Not sure, but that's really the only question.
And it's not an April full show.
Okay.
Oh, I did want to show you.
Okay.
So this is some of the stuff that Homer Tate did.
This is him and his little workshop with his art.
(30:34):
Very odd things.
And then the thing kind of looks like what we saw in Austin with like it was like the Ice
Man or something.
It was like this.
It's like in like a concrete enclosure and you go up and look through the window, the
glass window on top.
Makes you feel like it could break out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
(30:55):
I didn't really see any pictures of it.
That's kind of the only picture I saw of it.
But I didn't like dig super deep.
I mean, you got a few threads you're pulling on.
Yeah.
A couple.
And then there is also one post I wanted to show you.
So it is Jake the alligator man and the unipyper, which the unipyper is a port like a famous Portland
(31:18):
street performer.
He does the bagpipes with flames on a unicycle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So apparently he went to the jigsworthy at one point.
And then I couldn't find it on the website, but the website said you could put your own
Jake fan club ticket.
I couldn't find where you could do that.
(31:38):
But I found a picture of one of the fan club printout on his enclosure.
I like wanted to find one of those and put our names on it.
It says, Hell yeah.
Jake the alligator man fan club.
This certifies that link is a member in good standing.
That's so cute.
Yeah.
That's the end of my Scaly tail.
(31:59):
Scaly daily.
Do you think we should do some hair over this?
Ooh.
But of course.
I think we're going to have to pause so I can go throw up.
I'm not.
Be ready.
Okay.
I brought cards little enough for you to shuffle.
Not that full.
I brought my cabinet terium deck of cards.
(32:21):
So it's like oddities.
I thought it was very appropriate.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, they're really cool looking.
Yeah, this is the most expensive deck of cards I've ever bought.
But it was so worth it.
I can't remember where I got it.
I got.
We were together, I think.
Yeah, I feel like I remember you buying these.
(32:42):
I cannot remember for the life of me either.
We probably talked about it on an episode because I know we used them like right after
a bottle.
So anyone remembers where we acquired these?
And then I go back and listen to all the episodes and see when I probably be sure to listen
to all the ads.
You know, yeah.
Maybe twice, two, three times, you know, probably.
(33:04):
You're not doing anything all of that.
Yeah, look how small these are.
It's just a regular deck of playing cards.
I know what it like compared to doing like tarot just seems like these are so tiny.
Like I can barely keep them in my hands.
They're so tiny.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think I'm about jakey alligator man's is.
I was such a fun episode to research too.
(33:27):
Oh, yeah.
When I was researching and I came across the cliff in, or was it cliff, I can't remember in
San Francisco.
And I came across that and I was like, there's so much tea here.
That's what I was like freaking out yesterday while I was researching.
I'm feeling this.
(33:48):
Oh.
This is like the chaotic alligator man man alligator.
I'm just here.
I'm just here for the ride.
Are you feeling any any areas of interest?
I always feel like kind of in the in like the center.
I feel like I'm always pulled.
(34:09):
Like kind of drawn to like the middle.
Oh, okay.
Oh.
We got like a planter kind of and it's green.
Hmm.
It could be like an alligator tail and there's a man's face on it.
Oh.
Yeah.
Actually, that is it works.
(34:29):
Yeah.
I mean, it's not totally unlike him.
I will say that.
It's the three of the pentacles.
Do we need to check clubs?
Is that clubs?
It is.
Yeah.
Oh, that's interesting.
Cardamansi, clubs symbolizes the five fingers of the hand can represent working with one's
(34:51):
hands or making something interesting like home or take making things, you know, with
his hands and that is interesting.
No.
Okay.
Are you getting a match to a suit?
I didn't look that up yet.
I just like for some reason randomly came across that like I just typed in like clubs in
(35:13):
Cardamansi to see what would come up.
What was your suit?
Okay.
So I did.
I fully thought it was pentacles.
Is it cups?
No, it's ones.
We haven't done this in a while.
So yeah.
Fully thought I would just like pick up a regular deck and remember everything, you know.
(35:35):
Diamonds are pentacle.
I was like, okay, I feel like that makes sense.
Yeah.
Okay.
One.
This is why we were drawn to look it up and not trust our judgment.
I mean, could you imagine?
We have ones.
I want to say it's a very mysterious car.
Okay.
Three of ones are keywords are creativity and skill, self-expression, growth, competence,
(36:06):
and manifestation.
I feel like all of that, especially with like Wellington, Mars, and all of his businesses.
Oh.
Yeah.
Kind of an entrepreneurial.
Yeah.
That was like one of the words they used to describe him for sure, because he like saw
the opportunity of like the shipwreck and all those people just standing there with nothing
to eat.
(36:26):
Dude, you're gonna, okay.
Read on.
Now is the time to show the world what you can do.
You've worked hard to develop your talents and have confidence in your abilities.
You feel passionately about what you do and believe you can inspire others.
(36:47):
Express yourself.
Express yourself.
Okay.
In the upright position, it says you've developed a project, business, creative endeavor,
or other venture, and now you're ready to share it with others.
Yeah.
A couple of few of them.
(37:08):
Yeah.
Maybe like a burger stand.
I don't know, whatever.
I'm casually amused.
You see them.
That's lasted till present day.
Like, yeah.
By devoting yourself fully to your goal, you can succeed.
Do what's necessary to bring your dreams to fruition.
Oh.
Like buying a $750 jake theater man.
(37:30):
It would be like almost $7,000 now.
No.
No.
No.
I don't know.
I'd buy.
I buy a lot of things I don't need.
Yeah, they're usually not $7,000 though.
No.
Just these like oddity cards that were like, you know, oh, we needed those.
(37:50):
Like $35 for the darkest time.
In a reading about money, the upright three shows increase and financial support coming
to you.
You may have to spend money to make money.
But this card promises success.
In a reading about work, this card suggests an exciting time when your efforts start to bear
(38:15):
fruit.
Ooh.
You're giving it your all, inspiring others and attracting people who are eager to help
you.
Your ideas begin to take form.
Collaboration can be beneficial.
If you ask about a relationship, the three indicates a commitment, an engagement or marriage.
(38:35):
No way.
That's crazy.
Right of jake.
Right of jake and stunning.
It is kind of a jake and stunning.
Well, and then the fact that the celebration is on the same day as my wedding day.
Yeah, that is so fun.
It's so weird.
You and a partner express passionate feelings for each other and celebrate your love.
(38:59):
They said one of the things that it could be like a talent show that the woman does to
become bright.
So she'll do like a talent or she'll like just profess her undying love for jake.
Like this.
Okay, there's a short extra excerpt.
Hidden alliances work to move you into your authentic vocation as soon as you begin to
(39:22):
commit to it.
Should I try out to be a bride of jake?
Should I join the beauty pageant?
Is that what the cards are telling me?
Sure.
I'm doing it you guys.
I'm doing it this year.
Not that's not April Fool's either.
I'm doing it.
Oh, you need a slight jacket.
(39:45):
Oh my God.
That would be me in a beauty pageant.
That's all.
That's all she wrote.
That's all folks.
I have been eyeballing this one though.
I hadn't but now I am.
There's one card sitting here and it's just like on the cord.
So I'm just curious what it is.
(40:06):
Yeah.
Oh, it's another like slightly green.
It looks like weird scissors.
Yeah.
That almost looks like a mermaid, like a fin.
Oh, like the Fiji.
And it also looks like infinity symbol.
Oh.
Eight one, baby.
Mm-hmm.
And I feel like this is in reverse because this would be afraid.
(40:30):
Oh.
I think.
Okay, so what is the space?
So, the space is sort.
Okay.
So I double check but I'm worried.
So, sure.
Yeah, sort.
So we got the four swords.
In reverse, he wears our rest recuperation, retreat, solitude, introspection and recovery.
(40:51):
That's what Jake needs because he's got to be behind that cape.
You know, I was just thinking that I owe boy.
Even the, on the original card, like the imagery kind of looks like someone who could like
be in a glass case, like just like a land there.
Yeah.
I meant like last case of emotion.
Four symbolized stability.
(41:12):
This card represents withdrawing and resting in order to get your bearings after a time of
trouble.
Went too hard on the weekend with Bernie's thing.
You know what I realized, too.
This looks like a lock of hair that it cut off.
And they did talk about like Jake's wispy, like orange hair that he has on his head.
(41:34):
And this kind of looks like it.
Roos!
That's hilarious.
Okay, let's go to the reverse.
The reverse for indicates you need to rest but aren't giving yourself the timeout you
require.
If you continue the way you're going, you could even make yourself sick.
I thought what I just did.
I was going to say that one feels a little targeted.
(41:58):
Unless you allow your mind, body and spirit a chance to recover, the situation will grow
worse.
Well, I think they're doing that at least for Jake.
I feel like maybe I need to take this advice, too.
I think you may need to have a little lie down later.
Yeah.
My therapist would agree.
I, yeah, I'm sure.
In a reading about money, the reverse for can indicate remorse about a financial matter.
(42:24):
Oh, I feel like there wasn't that with Jake, but maybe the husband was like, "Damn it."
Because the wife made him go back and buy it, so I mean there could have been some remorse.
Could be.
Perhaps you continue pushing yourself to make money, depleting your energy even though
you really need to take a break.
So maybe he just was like, "I don't want to make a museum."
(42:47):
It's interesting, too, because it's a free museum.
I mean, it's in the name.
So they're making money from their postcard selling, I assume, or maybe donations.
So I mean, I can't imagine they're making a ton of money, you know?
But it's got to be a lot of effort that goes into it.
(43:07):
Oh, yeah.
I mean, look at us.
Oh, my God.
You're going to shit.
I've already done that today.
No, this is, we literally just talked about this.
Okay.
If the reading is about your job, you have trouble dealing with the stress and demands
in your workplace, but can't see away out of the situation.
(43:29):
Your head spinning and you're running on empty.
Perhaps seeking advice from a counselor or someone you respect can give you a new perspective.
Okay, cards.
Hmm.
This was about Jake.
Not about Kathy.
That's why I was feeling drawn to that card, though, and you didn't really even notice it.
(43:50):
Yeah.
Oh, because I'm ignoring it.
I'm like, yeah, no, thank you.
I don't need to hear those messages.
No.
In a reading about love, this card can signify giving up on a relationship or giving in with
regrets.
I mean, he does have to find a new bride every year.
Yeah.
(44:10):
It's demanding is what it is.
It's a lot of work for 75 year old.
I mean, come on.
In some cases, it may mean a temporary situation so you can heal old wounds, gain clarity and work
on yourself or make burgers.
Really, I think I'm hungry.
I think that's why we keep coming back to the burgers.
(44:34):
I'm sorry.
Call about those burgers.
No extra zirps.
No.
All right.
Well, I'm going to read this little paragraph that I miss because it's so cute.
And obviously, I was like, wait a minute.
I didn't even say the cute thing that I wanted to talk about.
Okay.
And it's kind of a circle, another circle moment, too.
(44:55):
Oh.
So in 1944, Wilts' vacationing in Florida, well, I'm going to notice the successful souvenir
shell shops.
Say that fact.
I said, oh, no, I wouldn't.
Successful souvenir shell shops.
Dang it.
Shush.
So he was like, hmm, my museum's at the beach.
Maybe I should sell sea shells down by the long shore.
(45:18):
Oh.
The long beach, get it?
Although he did have to import the shells because whole shells, like whole local shells
are hard to come by.
But they apparently give customers a tiny shell glued to a card to this very day.
Oh.
It's not so fucking cute.
(45:41):
That's adorable.
And he noticed that while vacationing in Florida, and then they steal his alligator man photo
and then say it's from Florida.
So it's just like another interesting thing.
Christy.
I thought that was so cute, the little sea shells.
I want a tiny little glued shell.
I love a tiny sea shell.
And they just give shit away.
We're free.
(46:02):
Where's mine?
We got to go.
We got to go visit Jake and get our free sea shell if they still do it.
I don't know, 100% for sure.
But we're going to find out.
We are going to find out.
Long beach isn't that far away.
No, it's really not.
Yeah.
I think we're done.
It's fucking Sunday.
Let's go.
Yeah.
We're going to get back to the nothing.
Do nothing.
(46:22):
Yeah.
Rest is important.
Allegedly.
We're going to go rest to like Jake and a glass case.
I just had the best idea.
We need to get replicas of ourselves the partyers that we just set out at parties.
People can put birthday hats on us.
(46:42):
I think maybe you need the rest.
I think the ideas and maybe they'll regenerate with a little rest.
All right.
If you say so.
That's a creepy ass day.
We'll see you next Tuesday.
Or we'll see you later, alligator.
You're going to say the second part of it.
(47:06):
What?
After a while, crocodile?
Oh.
You don't know that?
I was like, I don't know.
I didn't realize that was like the second half.
After a while, crocodile.
Somebody get me a goddam burger.
Oh, my head hurts.
(47:32):
Am I doing it?
Am I doing it?
Am I okay?
Yeah, I think you sound like yourself.
Okay, good.
We're going to hope that I can get the pills.
So I think we're okay.
I'm just hoping the migraine isn't contagious.
It better fucking not be.
It's the weather though, I think.
The weather did it.
It's swed away.
(47:53):
It is nice for recording those.
Not too sunny.
So we're not getting blasted from the back.
Yeah.
Nobody likes getting blasted from the back.
Unless you’re nasty.
Oh no. pnwhauntsandhomicides.com
In 1978, Wellington Marsh senior passed away, but his museum is still in the family.
(00:08):
And Wellington must have had a soft spot for Jake too, because his likeness is carved
on his headstone.
Oh my god!
To which his granddaughter says, "Well, 100 years from now, you'll be like, 'What the hell
is that?'" and quote.
I don't think I need to wait 100 years. I feel as though my default reaction is, 'What
(00:31):
the hell is that?'
Hi, Caitlyn.
[BEEP]
[LAUGHTER]
I was like, "That would be ready to start."
I know, and I was like, "I thought I was," and then that just snuck out of there.
(00:52):
Hi, Cassie.
Was it from the Cortado?
Probably.
Coffee makes me really burpy.
Cortado cult.
Can we please do like a bleep button on the burp?
I love you so funny.
Well, this is PNW, Hanson Homicides, where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and
(01:13):
all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.
Or the PNW.
If you're in a nasty.
And hi, creepy people. We know you're nasty. I think we forgot to say hi to you after we
said hi to each other.
And there's a burp situation.
Uh-oh.
Yeah.
But we hope you stick around for the end because we're going to do a little tarot for a little
(01:36):
deeper insight into our topic, which we do in every episode.
Yeah.
Well, before we start today, I did want to mention something.
I think we kind of chatted about it last night.
But Morbid, covered crater lake.
Oh, yes, yes.
Okay.
I remember this.
Yeah.
And I just, I thought it was interesting to bring up because I, I almost like didn't listen
(01:57):
to it because I was like, oh, you know, obviously I've researched like the shit out of it.
I know every detail of the story.
Like, I've heard it a million times, you know.
Yeah.
So it's like, oh, me.
I'll just skip that one.
But I was like, no, I'm going to listen to it because like, I love the spooky episodes.
Obviously.
Yeah.
And it's just, it's so different.
And like, everyone has their own like different take on things and different commentary.
(02:20):
And so I just thought it was interesting to bring up like even if you heard a topic a million
times, like everyone does it completely differently.
I agree.
I mean, I think people just have their own personalities.
Yeah.
Their own takes.
They do?
So, I mean, some people like, we're not all those copies of each other.
Carbon copies.
But yeah, it was really funny, really entertaining for me still.
(02:44):
And yeah, so I thought I'd bring it up.
Excellent.
And I, oh, the other reason is that's kind of like why we, one of the reasons we started
a PNW podcast because I would always get excited when other pods would talk about our,
our, our, our neck of the woods, you know.
So it's still exciting when they do.
(03:05):
Yeah.
Yeah.
They know about us.
Well, today we are going to be talking about a topic from the PNW.
That we're old.
We're going to Long Beach, Washington.
Oh.
That's a long beach.
Is about three hours southwest of Seattle on the Washington coast.
(03:25):
Population, 1756 as of 2023.
Really?
That's it.
Yeah.
I mean, like a small, you know, beach town.
Yeah.
I've been there that just seems really small.
Yeah.
It's pretty small.
I'm sure it's like full of tourists though, you know.
That, yeah, that's it.
It's like, seem bigger.
Popular for its boardwalk, drive on beach and the Washington State International Kite
(03:48):
Festival.
Through.
And the archway declaring the world's longest beach.
Hmm.
Which is actually true.
I was going to ask.
Although it's technically the world's longest beach on a peninsula.
Oh.
It's at, it's 28 miles long.
And if you're wondering like me, what the longest beach of the world is, it is.
(04:11):
And I can't roll my R, so I apologize.
Praya Do Cassino and Brazil.
Brazil.
Praya.
150 miles long.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
It's so much longer.
Yeah.
I just rolled my R's pretty good.
I don't know.
That sounds fun.
I want to go to there.
Can we go?
Can we go to Brazil?
(04:31):
The quad trip.
Yeah.
Why not?
The subject of our topic today has been dubbed the Crowned Jewel.
Another crowned jewel is something.
All right.
Of a place called Marsh's Free Museum.
Hmm.
Where, quote, lies a collection as a wonderous as it is bizarre.
(04:52):
Okay.
And quote.
Sounds about right for you.
Probably.
It really actually reminds me of the museum of the weird that we went to in Austin.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
It's, that was cool.
Pretty similar to that.
Okay.
Full of oddities and taxidermy and like the two headed calf, a one-eyed lamb, an eight-legged
(05:16):
lamb or spider lamb.
If you're nasty.
Wow.
That is nasty.
I don't know.
I just called it spider lamb because like eight legs.
Well, yeah.
I mean, that makes sense.
I don't know if anyone else calls it that.
They should.
They should.
I made up a new thing.
They have things like shrunken heads, human skeletons and antiques, like a roulette wheel from
(05:42):
the Alaskan Gold Rush.
Oh.
And I am like, I don't know what's wrong with my brain.
I kept reading it as Russian roulette wheel.
Oh.
And I was like, they had just like a wheel of guns.
Like, what?
Like the gold rush was like, what does a Russian roulette wheel?
(06:03):
The gold rush.
Right.
It's a gold rush.
Like that's just brutal.
I'll tell you.
So I read it like 10 times and I was like, oh my god, it literally just says roulette wheel.
Like, I'm so dumb.
Your brain really wanted to take that to the next level.
They were just gambling.
They weren't shooting.
Well, they might have been shooting.
(06:25):
I mean, there was probably some of that too.
There could have been wheel of guns.
Who knows?
Who knows what was going on in that gold rush?
I mean, the Wild West.
Am I right?
There's antique arcade games where you can get a fortune or measure the intensity of your
romantic passions.
Ooh.
And I do have a photo.
(06:47):
Test your passion.
Passion.
Test your passion, factor, chair.
Oh, okay, say that.
Literally ever again.
Test your passion, factor, chair.
I have a chair.
I have a chair.
Oh.
Do you notice anything weird about this, chair?
The slit right there in the middle of the seat.
Why is there a hole in the seat?
Y'all.
I don't know how I feel about that, but I don't think it's positive.
(07:11):
Isn't that weird?
I assume it's just from people sitting on it through time, but it seems kind of weird that
it's like a test your passion, chair, and there's a fucking hole in it.
You know what that reminds me of?
The glory hole?
It's always sunny.
Oh.
The exercise bike that Mack makes.
Oh, my God.
We need you to describe it to us.
(07:32):
No, I'm going to need someone to get a YouTube clip of, oh, yeah, I need YouTube clip.
There are no words.
You just have to have visual already.
Moving on from the glory hole chair.
On November 9, 1993, the headline on the front page of the weekly world news was, quote,
(07:59):
half human, half alligator discovered in Florida swamp.
Okay.
Exclamation point.
I mean, the location at least makes sense.
Right.
That's all I got.
I'll show you the photo.
That looks totally real.
Yeah, it's interesting, right?
Uh-huh.
(08:19):
So the article claims this is, quote, "man's missing link, a grotesque hissing creature
with the head and upper body of a human and the dragon-like lower body of an alligator."
That's good.
Has been captured alive just miles from here in the big cypress swamp end quote.
(08:41):
Okay.
So I thought it was funny that they like said, dragon-like lower body of an alligator.
Yeah.
Just say alligator.
Just say alligator because dragons aren't real.
Yeah, I agree that that also struck me as odd.
I'm like, you could have just said alligator.
Just leave it at alligator.
If the word you're looking for is alligator, well, there it is.
(09:04):
There it is.
Just use that one.
The article goes on to say, quote, "Of course, an intense search is underway to locate
any other gator man creatures."
End quote.
Of course.
Or a hunt them down.
For the years, there was several other articles on this same gator man from the Florida swamp.
(09:26):
I'm going to read you some of them.
Oh boy.
Half alligator, half human kills Miami man and escapes from laboratory.
Laboratory.
It's alive.
Yeah.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Well, that's one of the, that's one of the, oh, okay.
It's alive.
(09:47):
Yeah.
It's alive.
Half human, half alligator captured in Florida everglades.
And then, last but not least, half alligator, half human gives birth.
Oh, okay.
They claim he had a little baby alligator man.
Okay.
Okay.
The bottom half is alligator.
(10:10):
So to me, you don't, they don't, they don't give birth.
They lay eggs.
You know, so I am not going to try to analyze the mysteries of nature here.
Okay.
I was going to say maybe that's the wrong thread to pull that.
(10:30):
I don't know.
I don't know.
Nature is miraculous.
All right.
Out there just wild and, but this is not just any old half human, half alligator.
No, this is none other than Jake, the alligator man.
Okay.
The crowned jewel of Marsh's free museum.
(10:51):
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
The picture used for these stories was actually stolen from a souvenir postcard sold
at the museum.
Oh.
Okay.
Which they've now sold over 30,000 by the way.
Oh, yeah, I bet.
But it did put Jake on the map as one of the founding fathers of Freaks right up there
(11:16):
with the Fiji mermaid.
Great.
Love that.
Yeah.
Have you seen the Fiji mermaid?
I think so.
I've heard of it.
I don't know if I've actually ever seen the original.
Oh.
Alrighty.
It's very convincing.
I'm just going to play with these wires to comfort myself because I forgot my rock.
(11:41):
So this is Jake, the alligator man at Marcia's free museum in his enclosure.
And I'll show you more pictures later.
I can't wait.
There's so many pictures.
Hopefully.
Besides the kind of obvious fact that he is a mummified, a seemingly mummified, half-man,
half-alligator, not much is known about how Jake came to be in this state.
(12:05):
You don't say.
Yeah.
Not like the state of Washington, but just like his state of being, you know, existence.
Yeah.
How did Jake come into this world?
No one really knows.
His life prior to being purchased in 1962 to be a feature of the Marsh's unique collection
(12:26):
remains a mystery, which seems to be part of Jake's allure.
Sure.
It's very mysterious man.
We all like a mysterious man, right?
A man of mystery.
But naturally, people have their theories and stories.
Sort of a chicken or the alligator, chicken or the egg.
The dinosaur, the dragon?
Yeah.
(12:47):
Yeah.
Go with that.
Some of the activities people claim that Jake was up to when he was alive, it's alive!
Are things like hanging out in New Orleans brothels, smoking cigars, drinking whiskey, performing
in carnivals, terrifying anyone who came across him in the sand dunes of Pakistan or casually
(13:09):
just being a serial cannibal?
Oh.
Some of those make me real uncomfortable.
The sand dunes in Pakistan was very specific.
Yeah.
I mean, how's he getting to Pakistan, by the way?
They think that's where he came from.
I really don't know.
Okay.
Nobody knows.
(13:30):
It's a mystery.
Sure is.
Sure is.
But the people of Long Beach embrace their weird little unofficial mascot.
Okay.
Hopefully by now everyone knows one like we say weird, it's totally a compliment.
Oh, absolutely.
I think Jake is the coolest.
This is a pretty high weirdness factor.
(13:51):
Oh yeah.
High weirdness.
They really love him in this town and you'll see I break for Jake bumper stickers.
Oh, that's cute.
I did have pictures.
I don't see an I break for Jake bumper sticker, but I see like this is one of their stickers
that they sell at the museum.
Oh my.
It's my friend Jake and it has a you know, cartoon of him Long Beach, Washington.
(14:16):
And then there's also like a shirt with his silhouette on it.
March is free museum.
It says establish in 1921.
I think we'll get there.
Honestly, I think the silhouette is more horrifying.
I think so too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause it's like what the fuck is this?
Yeah.
I think silhouettes are often more horrifying.
(14:37):
Like that's like shadow people are scary because like you can't see their features, you know?
That's true.
He's also been given a key to the city.
Where does he keep his key for the city?
In his alligator butt.
Around his neck.
I don't know.
In his little enclosure, maybe a buried in the sand.
We don't know what he Jake's up to.
They've even celebrated his birthday since 2007.
(15:00):
Oh.
Now with a weekend festival.
It used to be like just kind of like a small birthday party, but it evolved into a weekend
long festival.
It's become a whole big Shindig.
At this festival, there is live music, a vintage car show.
Okay.
And the Burlesque Bachelor party.
(15:23):
What is that exactly?
Well, yeah.
Like why does Jake need a bachelor party, you ask?
Well because after that is the bride of Jake Beauty Pageant.
Okay.
Where women compete to be Jake's bride.
Excellent.
They do say it's more of like a funny lighthearted talent show than like a beauty pageant.
(15:48):
But I do have pictures.
Oh, oh boy.
So here is Jake at one of his birthday parties.
It's called little hat on.
They take him out.
Okay, that person who is also in the shot their face is almost more horrifying than oh,
Jake with his girls.
(16:08):
No.
Jake party and drinkin.
Okay.
There's a very sexy photo of Jake and a woman on a picnic blanket.
Okay.
I was going to say this is very like weekend at Bernies, but that is just too weird.
Isn't it amazing?
And here's Jake with this key to the city around his neck.
Oh.
(16:29):
That's where you keep your key to the city.
That's right.
You don't have one.
You know what?
That's true.
That's true.
That's true.
Valid criticism.
Maybe we'll have to see if we can find an alligator or something.
Well, it's funny.
You say that.
It's because now that I have given away what's it?
(16:54):
I have.
Okay.
All right.
Alligator feeds.
From New Orleans.
How cute.
And you know, that's where Jake liked to hang out supposedly in New Orleans brothels.
So which is I have a lot of concerns.
Yeah.
Follow up questions potentially about.
I will save those for later.
(17:17):
So since no one really knows how old Jake is since they don't know when he was born, where
he came from, how long he's been around, they celebrate his 75th every year.
On or around August 1st.
So he's only oh also that's another significant date in your life.
(17:42):
Yeah.
Ruh.
I don't know.
Do people know that you're wedding date?
I think so.
I think so too.
I think we talked about it.
I think anybody cares.
Yeah.
I just don't want like out your wedding data.
Yeah.
And by the way, this was top secret before now, but I take it very don't I guess first.
So this year we can't celebrate your anniversary.
We will have to celebrate Jake's birthday party.
(18:03):
75.
I can't celebrate my first wedding anniversary.
I have to celebrate Jake.
He's turning 75 all again.
I'm sure my husband will be fine with that.
Let's go.
That would be fun.
I feel like that makes sense too.
Like with all of the attention he gets that he is a Leo.
(18:23):
Oh.
But yeah, that branding is it's it's it's on point.
Jake used to attend his birthday parties, which you saw on the photos.
But now he's actually well, some of the photos you may have seen the real Jake now he's too fragile
to attend his parties.
Yes, I see in the glass case.
(18:44):
Especially since the last party he did make an appearance at.
He ended up on the missing mangator list.
Okay, so I would assume that's a short list.
Yeah, there was it was probably one just him.
Yeah, you did get him back thankfully, but the police were involved.
(19:06):
But don't worry, there is a stunt Jake.
They call the party or excellent.
So most of those pictures I showed you was like the party or Jake.
Okay, well, that's fitting.
We're doing stuff.
Now, I know all the stories about Jake's life sounds kind of out there.
(19:28):
Obviously, it's all allegedly Jake's early life, you know, the New Orleans stuff, the brothels,
the sand dunes, Pakistan.
Yeah, I mean, it could be a little bit of a stretch, but you know what ifs.
Sorry, if you heard dog barking in the background once in a while, we'll try to get her to shut
up.
Yeah, we make no promises.
(19:51):
Could you come up here and lay down quietly?
Come on, baby.
That's what oh, she's barking at the little deer.
Oh, there's like four of them down there.
Look at their little butts.
Look at them.
There's the kids.
Oh, yeah, one just pulled.
Oh, such a magical place.
Okay, and I know today that this episode is being released happens to be that one very
(20:17):
special, tricky day of the year.
Oh, so right about now is maybe when you're expecting me to say those three little words.
April Fool's bitch.
Oh, but I actually cannot because the story's true.
(20:38):
I was like, I'm gonna have to figure out the rotation here in advance and take this episode
out of your schedule.
It was like, we're taking April Fool's off every year for ever.
No, we're not.
It's too good.
I know though that like this, like all of this, like having a bride of Jake, like beauty
(21:00):
passion, this sounds like it could be like an April Fool's joke.
It really does.
It really does.
We do a photo evidence.
So I mean, nothing is to be said about his, his before life, you know, with all that
shenanigans, obviously, you know, maybe that's, there's not a lot of truth in that, but all
(21:21):
the rest of it is true.
And now I feel like I have to prove it to you by telling you how Marsh's free museum got
started.
Okay.
So picture it long beach 1921.
The 20s.
Wellington Marsh senior opens an ice cream shop and candy shop and then a tavern and then
(21:44):
kind of giving Bob's burgers.
He opens a temporary burger stand for crowds that drew to Gawk at a shipwreck.
Oh, doesn't that sound like something like Bob's burgers would do?
Honestly, it's so 1920s of it.
I just, I can't, which then let him to open up a restaurant and bar.
Okay.
(22:05):
Well, I mean, sure.
He's like, listen, this whole temporary thing has worked out well.
What if we, what if we just, what if it was permanent made that ship permanent?
I thought the shipwreck was kind of interesting too.
Okay.
So this is the shipwreck and it was kind of giving like Titanic fire.
Yeah.
This is kind of crazy.
(22:26):
This is why I thought it was interesting.
So I'll tell you a little bit about it.
It was a 300 feet passenger liner steamship carrying 39 passengers and 65 crew members named
the Admiral Benson, which we compared the Benson hotel to the Titanic.
Oh, that is weird.
(22:47):
It's just kind of like a full circle mismatch.
Yeah.
One of those synchronized things.
It is considered one of the biggest shipwrecks in the area known as the graveyard of the Pacific.
So it was pretty big wreck.
Yeah.
It was obviously a few other wrecks to be known as the graveyard of the Pacific.
(23:10):
I would say.
So people watched it there for days because it was stuck and they couldn't get it out.
That is so crazy.
Yeah.
So that's why there was a burger stand because people were sitting there watching this thing.
But it's not still there.
I don't know.
It's not still there.
I think it either like got destroyed or they destroyed it to move it out of there.
(23:32):
Like it.
Yeah.
The beach was later named Benson Beach.
So back to Wellington's new restaurant.
This was during the Depression when people couldn't really afford their tabs so they would
pay with items of interest or as like a placeholder until they could pay their bill.
So I think that's kind of like a pawn shop or you like give them something in exchange.
(23:58):
I don't know.
I was like a placeholder.
Like you either keep this or I'll come back and call my bill.
Yeah.
That's the word I'm thinking.
Yeah.
Thank you.
So Wellington would put these items on the wall and it sort of drew people in to come and
look at like the random weird stuff on the wall that people would leave there.
And that was the start of Marsh's free museum.
Oh my God.
(24:19):
In 1935 he opened the museum and its own building next to the world's largest frying pan and
world's largest razor clam.
Okay.
And I actually have a pick of the frying pan and that's Wellington.
He's like in the frying pan.
In the frying pan and I'll read you what it says quote, "Marsh senior spread eagled in
(24:44):
front of the world where the frying pan to show its size."
I mean it is accurate.
And they do mean spread eagle like arms.
But when I think spread eagle I think legs and it's like showing its size when I think
it's funny.
But he is spread eagle with his arms.
In 1968 Wellington's children bought Jake the alligator man from a local antique dealer
(25:10):
for $750.
Today's money is $6,848.36.
So I think I'd be pretty upset.
There's a point to end nearly $7,000 on that but it's not like not a small amount.
And at first they were like this is too much and actually left.
(25:30):
But Mrs. Marsh was infatuated with Jake so she persuaded her husband to go back and buy
him.
Okay.
So I don't know Jake the lady's man.
I mean, really?
Saying something.
Wow.
Before that Jake's first known origin was the cliff house in San Francisco.
(25:52):
Which there's a lot of info on that and we will be coming back to that in the future.
Oh, I'm not going to tell you anymore about the cliff house in San Francisco right now.
Right now.
Then in 1972 they moved to a newly built location across the street from the frying pan and all
that.
(26:12):
And I think the frying pan and razor clams are still there as far as I know.
And then in 2010 thanks to a senior project they installed the world's largest chopsticks
30 feet long in front of Marsh's free museum.
Oh my gosh.
So they still got free.
They still got big old biggest things outside their museum.
(26:35):
I love that.
In 1978, Wellington Marsh senior passed away but his museum is still in the family.
And Wellington must have had a soft spot for Jake too because his likeness is carved on
his headstone.
Oh my gosh.
To which his granddaughter says, well, 100 years from now, you'll be like, what the hell is
(26:58):
that?
End quote.
I don't think I need to wait 100 years.
I feel as though my default reaction is what the hell is that?
No one really cares how Jake came to be and something it's better not to know.
Oh.
Gives him that.
The mystique.
(27:19):
But if you're a knowledge seeking bitch like me, you must know.
I need to know.
I mostly wanted to know that this wasn't like a house of a thousand corpses situation where
they turned white shrewt into fish boy.
I know you probably haven't seen this movie.
No.
And all is that sounds terrible.
(27:40):
So the rain Wilson was in this movie and they're murderers and they so they like, they make
him into a fish boy for their like oddity.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They put like tail on them.
Yeah.
It's it's gruesome.
Yeah.
I can imagine.
(28:00):
Yeah.
So yeah, I wanted to know like this wasn't like a real purse like a real head, you know.
I was concerned.
Yeah.
But it is not it is not a person or creature.
It's art.
Most people think that this might be the artwork of Homer Tate and this is someone who did
very similar artwork in the 40s and 50s.
(28:25):
He was the top supplier for tourist traps inside show attraction items.
Okay.
Okay.
Which for the record, I am a sucker for tourist trap.
And I don't think it's like a negative thing.
I think it's so fun.
Well, it just depends on what you're looking for.
Yeah.
I mean, you can take trips where you're going to go and you're going to eat it.
(28:45):
Like all of the fun, so you just risk rolls.
And then there are going to be trips where you eat like chili cheese fries and go and
see the largest frying pan or or jake gale get her man.
Yeah.
Some of the things he made were like shrunken head replicas because obviously you can't
have real like shrunken heads.
Yeah.
(29:05):
Wolf Boy, which is in season six episode two of American pickers.
And the thing which resides at the Bowen travel center in Texas Canyon, Arizona.
Okay.
Which is apparently so remote that everything is reading about it specifies that it's about
(29:28):
20 miles east of Benson, Arizona.
Oh, it's not weird.
Another fucking Benson in the story.
Yeah, that's weird.
And it's like, I just thought it was interesting.
Like it really doesn't have anything to it's not in Benson, but like it's so remote that
you have to specify where it's at.
So like that's the only way we can help give you sort of a geolocation.
(29:52):
20 miles east of Benson.
Alrighty.
So now that we've come full circle with all the Benson's.
Yeah.
Really?
That is the end of my scale detail.
But I am left with one question.
Is it Jake the alligator man or Jake the man alligator?
(30:13):
Not sure, but that's really the only question.
And it's not an April full show.
Okay.
Oh, I did want to show you.
Okay.
So this is some of the stuff that Homer Tate did.
This is him and his little workshop with his art.
(30:34):
Very odd things.
And then the thing kind of looks like what we saw in Austin with like it was like the Ice
Man or something.
It was like this.
It's like in like a concrete enclosure and you go up and look through the window, the
glass window on top.
Makes you feel like it could break out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
(30:55):
I didn't really see any pictures of it.
That's kind of the only picture I saw of it.
But I didn't like dig super deep.
I mean, you got a few threads you're pulling on.
Yeah.
A couple.
And then there is also one post I wanted to show you.
So it is Jake the alligator man and the unipyper, which the unipyper is a port like a famous Portland
(31:18):
street performer.
He does the bagpipes with flames on a unicycle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So apparently he went to the jigsworthy at one point.
And then I couldn't find it on the website, but the website said you could put your own
Jake fan club ticket.
I couldn't find where you could do that.
(31:38):
But I found a picture of one of the fan club printout on his enclosure.
I like wanted to find one of those and put our names on it.
It says, Hell yeah.
Jake the alligator man fan club.
This certifies that link is a member in good standing.
That's so cute.
Yeah.
That's the end of my Scaly tail.
(31:59):
Scaly daily.
Do you think we should do some hair over this?
Ooh.
But of course.
I think we're going to have to pause so I can go throw up.
I'm not.
Be ready.
Okay.
I brought cards little enough for you to shuffle.
Not that full.
I brought my cabinet terium deck of cards.
(32:21):
So it's like oddities.
I thought it was very appropriate.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, they're really cool looking.
Yeah, this is the most expensive deck of cards I've ever bought.
But it was so worth it.
I can't remember where I got it.
I got.
We were together, I think.
Yeah, I feel like I remember you buying these.
(32:42):
I cannot remember for the life of me either.
We probably talked about it on an episode because I know we used them like right after
a bottle.
So anyone remembers where we acquired these?
And then I go back and listen to all the episodes and see when I probably be sure to listen
to all the ads.
You know, yeah.
Maybe twice, two, three times, you know, probably.
(33:04):
You're not doing anything all of that.
Yeah, look how small these are.
It's just a regular deck of playing cards.
I know what it like compared to doing like tarot just seems like these are so tiny.
Like I can barely keep them in my hands.
They're so tiny.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think I'm about jakey alligator man's is.
I was such a fun episode to research too.
(33:27):
Oh, yeah.
When I was researching and I came across the cliff in, or was it cliff, I can't remember in
San Francisco.
And I came across that and I was like, there's so much tea here.
That's what I was like freaking out yesterday while I was researching.
I'm feeling this.
(33:48):
Oh.
This is like the chaotic alligator man man alligator.
I'm just here.
I'm just here for the ride.
Are you feeling any any areas of interest?
I always feel like kind of in the in like the center.
I feel like I'm always pulled.
(34:09):
Like kind of drawn to like the middle.
Oh, okay.
Oh.
We got like a planter kind of and it's green.
Hmm.
It could be like an alligator tail and there's a man's face on it.
Oh.
Yeah.
Actually, that is it works.
(34:29):
Yeah.
I mean, it's not totally unlike him.
I will say that.
It's the three of the pentacles.
Do we need to check clubs?
Is that clubs?
It is.
Yeah.
Oh, that's interesting.
Cardamansi, clubs symbolizes the five fingers of the hand can represent working with one's
(34:51):
hands or making something interesting like home or take making things, you know, with
his hands and that is interesting.
No.
Okay.
Are you getting a match to a suit?
I didn't look that up yet.
I just like for some reason randomly came across that like I just typed in like clubs in
(35:13):
Cardamansi to see what would come up.
What was your suit?
Okay.
So I did.
I fully thought it was pentacles.
Is it cups?
No, it's ones.
We haven't done this in a while.
So yeah.
Fully thought I would just like pick up a regular deck and remember everything, you know.
(35:35):
Diamonds are pentacle.
I was like, okay, I feel like that makes sense.
Yeah.
Okay.
One.
This is why we were drawn to look it up and not trust our judgment.
I mean, could you imagine?
We have ones.
I want to say it's a very mysterious car.
Okay.
Three of ones are keywords are creativity and skill, self-expression, growth, competence,
(36:06):
and manifestation.
I feel like all of that, especially with like Wellington, Mars, and all of his businesses.
Oh.
Yeah.
Kind of an entrepreneurial.
Yeah.
That was like one of the words they used to describe him for sure, because he like saw
the opportunity of like the shipwreck and all those people just standing there with nothing
to eat.
(36:26):
Dude, you're gonna, okay.
Read on.
Now is the time to show the world what you can do.
You've worked hard to develop your talents and have confidence in your abilities.
You feel passionately about what you do and believe you can inspire others.
(36:47):
Express yourself.
Express yourself.
Okay.
In the upright position, it says you've developed a project, business, creative endeavor,
or other venture, and now you're ready to share it with others.
Yeah.
A couple of few of them.
(37:08):
Yeah.
Maybe like a burger stand.
I don't know, whatever.
I'm casually amused.
You see them.
That's lasted till present day.
Like, yeah.
By devoting yourself fully to your goal, you can succeed.
Do what's necessary to bring your dreams to fruition.
Oh.
Like buying a $750 jake theater man.
(37:30):
It would be like almost $7,000 now.
No.
No.
No.
I don't know.
I'd buy.
I buy a lot of things I don't need.
Yeah, they're usually not $7,000 though.
No.
Just these like oddity cards that were like, you know, oh, we needed those.
(37:50):
Like $35 for the darkest time.
In a reading about money, the upright three shows increase and financial support coming
to you.
You may have to spend money to make money.
But this card promises success.
In a reading about work, this card suggests an exciting time when your efforts start to bear
(38:15):
fruit.
Ooh.
You're giving it your all, inspiring others and attracting people who are eager to help
you.
Your ideas begin to take form.
Collaboration can be beneficial.
If you ask about a relationship, the three indicates a commitment, an engagement or marriage.
(38:35):
No way.
That's crazy.
Right of jake.
Right of jake and stunning.
It is kind of a jake and stunning.
Well, and then the fact that the celebration is on the same day as my wedding day.
Yeah, that is so fun.
It's so weird.
You and a partner express passionate feelings for each other and celebrate your love.
(38:59):
They said one of the things that it could be like a talent show that the woman does to
become bright.
So she'll do like a talent or she'll like just profess her undying love for jake.
Like this.
Okay, there's a short extra excerpt.
Hidden alliances work to move you into your authentic vocation as soon as you begin to
(39:22):
commit to it.
Should I try out to be a bride of jake?
Should I join the beauty pageant?
Is that what the cards are telling me?
Sure.
I'm doing it you guys.
I'm doing it this year.
Not that's not April Fool's either.
I'm doing it.
Oh, you need a slight jacket.
(39:45):
Oh my God.
That would be me in a beauty pageant.
That's all.
That's all she wrote.
That's all folks.
I have been eyeballing this one though.
I hadn't but now I am.
There's one card sitting here and it's just like on the cord.
So I'm just curious what it is.
(40:06):
Yeah.
Oh, it's another like slightly green.
It looks like weird scissors.
Yeah.
That almost looks like a mermaid, like a fin.
Oh, like the Fiji.
And it also looks like infinity symbol.
Oh.
Eight one, baby.
Mm-hmm.
And I feel like this is in reverse because this would be afraid.
(40:30):
Oh.
I think.
Okay, so what is the space?
So, the space is sort.
Okay.
So I double check but I'm worried.
So, sure.
Yeah, sort.
So we got the four swords.
In reverse, he wears our rest recuperation, retreat, solitude, introspection and recovery.
(40:51):
That's what Jake needs because he's got to be behind that cape.
You know, I was just thinking that I owe boy.
Even the, on the original card, like the imagery kind of looks like someone who could like
be in a glass case, like just like a land there.
Yeah.
I meant like last case of emotion.
Four symbolized stability.
(41:12):
This card represents withdrawing and resting in order to get your bearings after a time of
trouble.
Went too hard on the weekend with Bernie's thing.
You know what I realized, too.
This looks like a lock of hair that it cut off.
And they did talk about like Jake's wispy, like orange hair that he has on his head.
(41:34):
And this kind of looks like it.
Roos!
That's hilarious.
Okay, let's go to the reverse.
The reverse for indicates you need to rest but aren't giving yourself the timeout you
require.
If you continue the way you're going, you could even make yourself sick.
I thought what I just did.
I was going to say that one feels a little targeted.
(41:58):
Unless you allow your mind, body and spirit a chance to recover, the situation will grow
worse.
Well, I think they're doing that at least for Jake.
I feel like maybe I need to take this advice, too.
I think you may need to have a little lie down later.
Yeah.
My therapist would agree.
I, yeah, I'm sure.
In a reading about money, the reverse for can indicate remorse about a financial matter.
(42:24):
Oh, I feel like there wasn't that with Jake, but maybe the husband was like, "Damn it."
Because the wife made him go back and buy it, so I mean there could have been some remorse.
Could be.
Perhaps you continue pushing yourself to make money, depleting your energy even though
you really need to take a break.
So maybe he just was like, "I don't want to make a museum."
(42:47):
It's interesting, too, because it's a free museum.
I mean, it's in the name.
So they're making money from their postcard selling, I assume, or maybe donations.
So I mean, I can't imagine they're making a ton of money, you know?
But it's got to be a lot of effort that goes into it.
(43:07):
Oh, yeah.
I mean, look at us.
Oh, my God.
You're going to shit.
I've already done that today.
No, this is, we literally just talked about this.
Okay.
If the reading is about your job, you have trouble dealing with the stress and demands
in your workplace, but can't see away out of the situation.
(43:29):
Your head spinning and you're running on empty.
Perhaps seeking advice from a counselor or someone you respect can give you a new perspective.
Okay, cards.
Hmm.
This was about Jake.
Not about Kathy.
That's why I was feeling drawn to that card, though, and you didn't really even notice it.
(43:50):
Yeah.
Oh, because I'm ignoring it.
I'm like, yeah, no, thank you.
I don't need to hear those messages.
No.
In a reading about love, this card can signify giving up on a relationship or giving in with
regrets.
I mean, he does have to find a new bride every year.
Yeah.
(44:10):
It's demanding is what it is.
It's a lot of work for 75 year old.
I mean, come on.
In some cases, it may mean a temporary situation so you can heal old wounds, gain clarity and work
on yourself or make burgers.
Really, I think I'm hungry.
I think that's why we keep coming back to the burgers.
(44:34):
I'm sorry.
Call about those burgers.
No extra zirps.
No.
All right.
Well, I'm going to read this little paragraph that I miss because it's so cute.
And obviously, I was like, wait a minute.
I didn't even say the cute thing that I wanted to talk about.
Okay.
And it's kind of a circle, another circle moment, too.
(44:55):
Oh.
So in 1944, Wilts' vacationing in Florida, well, I'm going to notice the successful souvenir
shell shops.
Say that fact.
I said, oh, no, I wouldn't.
Successful souvenir shell shops.
Dang it.
Shush.
So he was like, hmm, my museum's at the beach.
Maybe I should sell sea shells down by the long shore.
(45:18):
Oh.
The long beach, get it?
Although he did have to import the shells because whole shells, like whole local shells
are hard to come by.
But they apparently give customers a tiny shell glued to a card to this very day.
Oh.
It's not so fucking cute.
(45:41):
That's adorable.
And he noticed that while vacationing in Florida, and then they steal his alligator man photo
and then say it's from Florida.
So it's just like another interesting thing.
Christy.
I thought that was so cute, the little sea shells.
I want a tiny little glued shell.
I love a tiny sea shell.
And they just give shit away.
We're free.
(46:02):
Where's mine?
We got to go.
We got to go visit Jake and get our free sea shell if they still do it.
I don't know, 100% for sure.
But we're going to find out.
We are going to find out.
Long beach isn't that far away.
No, it's really not.
Yeah.
I think we're done.
It's fucking Sunday.
Let's go.
Yeah.
We're going to get back to the nothing.
Do nothing.
(46:22):
Yeah.
Rest is important.
Allegedly.
We're going to go rest to like Jake and a glass case.
I just had the best idea.
We need to get replicas of ourselves the partyers that we just set out at parties.
People can put birthday hats on us.
(46:42):
I think maybe you need the rest.
I think the ideas and maybe they'll regenerate with a little rest.
All right.
If you say so.
That's a creepy ass day.
We'll see you next Tuesday.
Or we'll see you later, alligator.
You're going to say the second part of it.
(47:06):
What?
After a while, crocodile?
Oh.
You don't know that?
I was like, I don't know.
I didn't realize that was like the second half.
After a while, crocodile.
Somebody get me a goddam burger.
Oh, my head hurts.
(47:32):
Am I doing it?
Am I doing it?
Am I okay?
Yeah, I think you sound like yourself.
Okay, good.
We're going to hope that I can get the pills.
So I think we're okay.
I'm just hoping the migraine isn't contagious.
It better fucking not be.
It's the weather though, I think.
The weather did it.
It's swed away.
(47:53):
It is nice for recording those.
Not too sunny.
So we're not getting blasted from the back.
Yeah.
Nobody likes getting blasted from the back.
Unless you’re nasty.
Oh no. pnwhauntsandhomicides.com
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!