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SPEAKER_00 (00:05):
I'm with my friend
Elaine Williams on International
Podcast Day.
So, for those of you that don'tknow, September 30th is
International Podcast Day, andit is really just a day to
celebrate the community ofpodcasting, the impact that
podcasting has on all of us, andhow this medium of podcasting
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has grown exponentially over thelast few years.
So I thought nothing better thangetting on Zoom and live on
YouTube with a fellow podcasterto talk all things podcasting.
Thank you for being here withme, Elaine.
SPEAKER_01 (00:44):
Thank you for having
me, Julie.
You know, I'm a big fan, and I'mso grateful because I love
podcasts.
I'm a lifelong learner, and Ialso love music.
Sometimes I'm like, Elaine, youneed to listen to some music.
You need to lighten up and dancefor a minute, honey.
But I, to me, podcasts are sucha joy because, you know, let's
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face it, I'm 57.
So much of life, there'srepetitive stuff you gotta do.
Laundry, your car, gas, errands,right?
And sometimes it's actuallydangerous to be speaking on the
phone when you're, you know.
And so I love listening topodcasts.
I feel uplifted, inspired.
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I'm always trying to learn abouthistory just so I can understand
white people, where we are.
And, you know, I have severalbusinesses and I'm caregiving.
And so I don't have as much timeto read as I would like.
And so I just, you know, eversince podcasts came around, I
was like, oh, this is kind ofcool.
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If I feel like I need a lift,I'll listen to one.
If I feel like I'm in the mood,I'll noodle on some history
stuff.
You know, there's just so manygreat things.
And then the podcast communityis really what like really steal
the dill for me.
I went to Podfest and I thoughtthese people are so cool and
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down to earth and real.
And there were people who weredying, and they were like, I
just want to give and share mystory until I go.
SPEAKER_00 (02:21):
And I was like,
Yeah, that is the power of
podcasting, right?
And even though we're doingvideo right now, you know,
really podcasting started asthat audio only.
And there is a really personalconnection when someone chooses
to play you on their car stereoor put your voice in their ears
and in headphones.
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And even though video is blowingup too, it's still that
connection.
Like you're connecting with thehost and a guest, whatever the
situation may be.
And you really get to knowpeople on this very personal
level through podcasting that Idon't even think I expected when
I first started.
And now so many of my guests Icall friends, even though we've
only ever met virtually.
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And it's such a crazy way toconnect with people all over the
world, but also connect withyour people.
I mean, I feel like I've donethat with my pet podcast, and
it's gonna have its own YouTubechannel later today, which I'm
very excited about.
But also in podcasting, like youmentioned, the community.
I mean, that's how you and I metwas at Podfest 2024, and now you
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can't get rid of me.
And we got to go to Disney Worldtwice.
Yes.
That's our bonus part, but it'sso funny because when I we went
to Podfest again this year inJanuary, I realized really what
it is, it's a family reunion.
It's all of these people that Ihave connected with through
podcasting, whether it's incommunities I'm a part of, like
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Podfest or other memberships, orit's I've been a guest on their
show, or they've been a guest onmy show, or we've gone to the
same networking event.
And we live all over the place,sometimes all over the world,
but nothing beats meeting peoplein person.
There's that power of connectionwhen you get to hang out
together in person.
SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
Yes, I think of it
as belly to belly.
And another thing, like I got togo to Fest, and then I also got
to go to podcast movement andheard some brilliant stuff and
ran into people.
And one of the things they weretalking about that the best way
to still become discoverable isshort form video.
And I always do this becausesome people are gonna go to
LinkedIn, some people Facebook.
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So short form video is stilllike the best way for people to
discover you.
And a lot of times, once peoplediscover you, they switch back
to audio so that they can listento you while they're doing their
things.
And it makes me think of thoseroad trips or pillow talk.
Like they say, when does acouple really talk?
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Pillow talk.
Then it's in the night, youknow?
And then when have you gone on aroad trip with somebody?
There's such a bubble ofintimacy and an opportunity to
go deep and share.
And you know, I love going deep.
I'm a comedian, but I'm alsovery deep, and small talk freaks
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me out, right?
SPEAKER_00 (05:09):
I hate that kind of
stuff too.
SPEAKER_01 (05:10):
What makes your
heart sing?
What are you yearning for?
What did you overcome?
Like, I I've I've been thatperson since I was a little kid.
I'd be like, what's your dream?
Why are you doing it?
And they would be like, okay,get her away from me.
One conversation can change yourlife.
SPEAKER_00 (05:27):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (05:28):
And isn't that why
we're here?
unknown (05:31):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (05:31):
And you know, it's
so funny you were talking about
that because I've said itrecently in a couple guest
interviews, or even my ownpodcast, where I'm like, you
would have told me five yearsago I have a podcast, let alone
that on these podcasts I'veshared some of the most deep
personal stories of myself.
You know, my pet podcast, Italked about losing my first
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foster kitten and how he passedaway in my hands and how hard
that was.
And it was healing for me toshare the story and kind of let
go.
And on my own podcast, I'veshared some of my really big
struggles with my health andthings I've gone through through
my life of loss, losing piecesof myself to my health journey.
And I never probably would haveever done that if I hadn't got
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into podcasting.
There's such a power in steppingin front of the mic and it being
your platform, and you get tochoose what you talk about and
how you share it and how youcreate it and all of that.
You get to choose what guestsyou have on your show and what
you talk about with them.
And there's so much power inthat.
And I think, especially aswomen, so many of us are owning
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that power because we've neverhad it in other places to be
able to speak our mind or shareour truth or tell that story
that we never thought we would,but somebody out there needs to
hear it.
SPEAKER_01 (06:45):
Oh, I love it.
Yes, yes, it's so great.
And so, you know, whether Iwould say if you're already
listening to podcasts, yay! Andit's great to explore some new
ones.
And if there is a yearning, I'ma huge fan.
Call Julie because she's gonnahelp you launch and she's very
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affordable.
Don't die with that song in yourheart.
Right.
One of the top five regrets ofpeople on their deathbed is that
they did not follow their heart,they did not live the life that
they knew they were meant to.
They lived it to please otherpeople.
And, you know, as a recoveringpeople pleaser, I have a lot of
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compassion.
There's no judgment, but youknow, that's one of my missions
is to help heal the world withlove and laughter, one joke, one
story, one video at a time.
And just to help people reclaimthat self-expression that we all
have.
SPEAKER_00 (07:42):
When we were little,
we were like, and what the
recently shared a photo.
I was going through old photosfor my mom's birthday, and I
found one of me in one of mydance outfits, and I've got my,
you know, I've got the pictureof you.
I had a signature move, youknow, it was a hip thing, and I
just like I posted it and said,like, at what point do we give
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that little girl part ofourselves up?
No, I'm still that girl, and Ihid it for a long time.
My old career, that's not howyou showed up.
You had business attire and allof that, but now I can have all
this stuff behind me and andshow up as myself because that's
what makes me happy, but alsobecause someone else out there
needs to hear it and needs to bereminded.
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And it's so funny you talkedabout the deathbed thing because
a lot of what comes up for me inpodcasting is legacy.
Like for so many of us, ourpodcast isn't just about
business or you know, makingmoney or having clients, it's
about leaving a legacy, it'sabout helping other people leave
legacies, right?
It's about sharing our story,putting ourselves out there in a
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way that we really can't do inother ways.
With podcasts, once someonefinds it, they know to go back
there every day or every week orevery month and listen.
And there's so much power inthat.
And I think so many more peopleneed to own that power and
really step into it.
And that's why we had Pitch Festjust a little while ago.
I decided since it wasInternational Podcast Day, I
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would host a live pitch fest.
That was amazing.
SPEAKER_01 (09:12):
Julie was great.
SPEAKER_00 (09:14):
We had 10 women show
up live and pitch themselves as
guests, and there was such avariety in what people talk
about and their stories.
I think we also saw this stringof similarity and everything
people were saying, like thestories they're sharing, how
they help people get out oftheir heads, over get over
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overwhelming, or step into moreconfidence and all these things
that everybody kind of shared indifferent perspectives.
It was really interesting tokind of see that line kind of
weave through everybody as theyspoke about what they do and
what they talk about as apodcast guest.
What do you think, Elaine?
SPEAKER_01 (09:52):
Yeah.
I was very inspired, and it tookcopious notes, and I was like,
oh, I want her and her and heron my podcast, and I want to be
on their podcast.
One of the things as a coach,I'm a speaker coach, a speaker,
short form video expert, as wellas a podcast and comedian.
And so many times I help womentap back into their power, and
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so many times one of the blocksis oh, well, everybody knows
that.
Or um, well, Elaine, you have agood story, and I do.
I have some great stories, andpeople need to hear your story
because nobody does it like you.
And just I'm a middle-aged whitelady, so you know, not
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everybody's gonna be able torelate to me, right?
And so if you have thatyearning, and then you have the
ego or identity going, oh no,no, that's dangerous, don't be
vulnerable.
You know, I encourage peoplelike you never know your story
could be somebody else'slifeline, and you just never
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know how sharing something canbe the exact thing somebody
needed to hear.
And you know, I'll just share.
Like, I was traveling inPortugal with my partner at the
time, and we had had a bigkerfuffle, and I was feeling I
hadn't slept, I was veryemotional, I was feeling very
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like, and I, you know, I'm inrecovery, and luckily I was
like, okay, I can't get, youknow, we're driving in Portugal,
the door opened, but I was like,I can listen to a podcast, and
like I want to cross, and likeit really helped me calm down
and get grounded and decide tostay and continue the trip, you
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know.
And like there's a podcast thatthey play about recovery and
that's in like all the prisons,and even the people who are in
solitary confinement.
And I'm not condoning any of youknow crime, but so many who are
in prison, you know, they'reblack and brown, they didn't
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have money, and or a lot oftimes they do stuff when they're
under the influence, and thenunfortunately, for whatever
reason, they're in solitaryconfinement, which I think is
inhumane, but I'm not gonna takethat battle on.
But like to be able to be thatlife, what do you call it?
The life ring, whatever you callthose things, life raft, like
life raft, like you just neverknow.
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Like that's so powerful, andthose people are saving lives,
and it's human to connect, andif you'll see me connected, and
you know, and so I just I'mclearly passionate, and at some
point I'll probably have fivepodcasts if I know me, but right
now I just have the one.
SPEAKER_00 (12:48):
But you just never
know, and your our job is right
who needs to hear from you, whoneeds to hear some little thing
you're gonna say that's gonnaresonate.
And I know as a woman, there'sso many podcasts I listen to for
a laugh or for inspiration for ahappy story, but also like
hearing what they're goingthrough with menopause or
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hearing what they're goingthrough with mental health.
You know, those are the oneswhere I hear someone else say
their struggle and how they'regetting through.
It's like, okay, I'm not alone,I'm not crazy.
The world is literally insaneright now, and it can be
overwhelming to even go onsocial media.
I think podcasts are that liferaft or that place where you can
go and you feel safe because youget to know the host, you get to
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know the people talking to you,you get to know the people
through their stories.
And so, if nothing else, this isyour signal to whoever's seeing
this to keep doing it if you'realready doing it, to put
yourself out there as a guest todo it more, to create the
podcast you've been thinkingabout, because it's never gonna
be perfect and ready.
You have to start.
We both learn by doing.
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We put ourselves out there andrealize this is good, this
isn't.
I'm gonna change that.
That's the power of podcasting.
You can change tomorrow, yourtopic, your cover, your title.
It's all about getting startedand figuring it out where you
need to be in the world, right?
And so, where Elaine needs to bein the world is helping people
with being a speaker, being moreconfident on camera.
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So, Elaine, tell everybody aboutyour podcast.
SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
Oh, well, thank you,
Julie.
So, my podcast is Captivate theMai.
I did another one a few yearsago during COVID called Still
Human that's still out there.
Great life coach hacking tip.
So I wanted to make one aboutthe power of speaking, whether
you're on camera or speaking infront of live people or even
podcast guesting.
And I wanted it to be fun andentertaining and also giving
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tips.
I have had some amazing peopleto interview on my podcast.
And then I also give little tipsevery once in a while.
It's just gonna stay on its own.
But I want people to walk awaylistening and like, oh, that was
really great.
Or you know what?
I'm gonna go write that downright now.
The power of the pause.
I forgot.
And so it's called Captivate theMic.
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Please subscribe, rate, andreview because that's how it
gets pushed out to other things.
I've had some amazing speakerson there, like Peter Samuelson,
who is a 27-time Hollywoodproducer, who now just says
philanthropy.
He has seven charities.
And when I was listening to hisbook in preparation, I kept
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crying because he's one of themost inspiring human beings I've
ever had the privilege ofknowing.
I need to get you to come be onmy podcast, Julia.
And we'll do that.
It's not about being perfect.
My father passed away a fewmonths ago.
So, my, you know, my I have notbeen totally consistent.
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You know, if you've started apodcast and you want to get back
to it, like it's okay.
Just get back and it's, youknow, like it's not nothing is
perfect.
It Julie and I are both queensof like imperfect action because
you know, you can sit and try tosteer a car if it's in park, or
you can get going, and then youmight have to do a U-turn or a
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left turn, but it's gonna be wayeasier to steer if you're
actually like moving.
SPEAKER_00 (16:10):
Like, why is it
moving?
Oh, I guess I should take thebreak off.
I think, and so many of us,especially women, I think we get
in our head, we talk ourselvesout of things, nobody cares,
nobody needs to hear it.
And even in podcasting, like Iput stuff out and it's is anyone
listening?
Is this resonating?
You like you just all don'talways know, but you have to
keep doing it because there's areason you're doing it, there's
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a reason Elaine is doing herpodcast and she's connecting
with these amazing peoplebecause she's a vessel to kind
of share that for people.
And you know, my podcast, Istarted it a year and a half
ago, put out five episodes, andpaused it for over a year
because I wasn't clear on whatmy business direction was and
what I was doing and what Iwanted to share.
And that's okay.
That's what you get to do, youget to make those decisions.
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And the story of my pet, whichI've had for three and a half
years, gets paused all the timebecause it's my passion project,
but it's not directly a part ofmy business.
People still listen, like it'scharting on eight different
countries right now, and Ihaven't put a new episode out in
two months.
But that's because I I've doneit and I've kept doing it, and
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people who enjoy it are comingback, and new people are
discovering it.
So you just never know.
No, I don't have tens ofthousands of downloads, but I
know people are listening everyday, and that makes it worth it.
If you've been waiting to getstarted, whatever it is,
speaking, guesting, podcasting,this is your sign from Elaine
and our.
SPEAKER_01 (17:54):
Join.
SPEAKER_00 (17:55):
And because really,
what I found my purpose is is in
is supporting other women likeElaine and myself to just do it
and to learn as you go and togrow and to share your story
because somebody needs to hearit.
So I think that's the bestmessage to have on International
Podcast Day is share your story.
Somebody needs to hear it now.
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Being here with me, I reallyappreciate your support, but
also just your energy.
You always bring me up when I'mdown.
And so hopefully somebody elseis getting uplifted by us right
now.
SPEAKER_01 (18:27):
Okay, thank you so
much.
Bye, everybody.