S4 BONUS: Warm Hugs (with Todd Buonopane)

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Thank you.
So today we have somethingreally special for you.
This happened very, veryquickly and was kind of a
surprise.
And you know, sometimessurprises are the best.
Actually, usually surprises arethe best.
And this one is kind of thebest.
So, Caroline, why don't youtell everybody what happened?

I would love to.
So last night we were luckyenough to be invited to see
Frozen that is currently playingat Paper Mill Playhouse in
Millburn, New Jersey.
And we had such a wonderfultime.
It is a beautiful, beautifulproduction.
It is playing through January11th at Paper Mill Playhouse.

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So if you can make the time,you should totally get there and
see it.
We loved every moment of it.
And we just like love seeingFrozen on stage.

It's so good.

It's so good on stage.
It's so good on stage.

What season is that?
Season three?

Yes, we have a perfect episode to pair with
this.
Option up.
It's a two-part episode wherewe talk about the original
Broadway cast recordings ofFrozen and The Little Mermaid.
So that would be a greatpairing with this episode.

Which is super ironic because Paper Mill
literally has produced both TheLittle Mermaid and Frozen this
year.

So yes, and I got to see that beautiful Little
Mermaid as well.
Yeah, Paper Mill.
Um, what should they do next?
We have requests.
We'll we'll be in touch.
Um, but then to make it evenbetter, today we are welcoming
Todd Buonopane to the podcast.
Todd plays Olaf in thisproduction.
And I think you're gonna be sodelighted by this interview.

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He was an absolute joy anddelight as Olaf.
I just get all the warm, fuzzyfeelings just thinking about his
performance.
And so he came on and chattedabout the show, about Disney as
we do, and we're gonna bring allof that to you.
But before we jump into theinterview, we want to give you
his bio because he is booked andbusy.

He's done, he's done some stuff.
He's done some stuff.
So Todd is currently playingOlaf in Disney's Frozen at Paper
Mill Playhouse through January11th.
Todd has appeared on Broadwayas Jean-Michel in Cinderella.
Which we love.
We love Roger in Grease, whichhey, I've done Roger in Grease
as well.

Hell yeah.

Amos in Chicago, and many characters in The 25th
Annual Putnam County SpellingBee.

He has also toured the United States in the
play that goes wrong, Godspell,and Chicago, which he has also
done in Dubai, Seoul, and Tokyo.
Hello.
His off-Broadway creditsinclude Tartuffe, which actually
just wrapped up, starring AndréDe Shields, that looked
incredible.
Uh, The Butter and Egg Man,Henry and Mudge, and the New
Yorkers at City Center Encores.
His TV credits include TheUnbreakable Kimmy Schmidt,

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Braindead, Grey's Anatomy, Lawand Order, Criminal Intent, and
30 Rock.

So, Todd, welcome to Poor Unfortunate Podcast.
It's great having you here withus.

Thanks for having me.
Oh, we're so happy you're here.
So, Todd, we actually, beforewe jump into like all the
questions we have for you aboutOlaf, we'd wanted to tell you
that we saw the show last nightand you were so wonderful.
Oh good.
I'm glad you were there.
So great.
It was so magical.
Like we just loved it.

I was like crying within the first like three
minutes of it.
I was just like, Oh my god,those two little girls.
Those little girls are so good.

They're unbelievable.

I have mutual friends with Hazel, I think her
name is, who's young Elsa,because she's from Maryland.
And so like there's theMaryland community, it's like
very, very tight.
So like we've got people whowere like, Oh my god, Conor, you
saw it?
I was like, Yes, she wasamazing.

They were incredible.

Great.
She was Annie.

Oh, that makes sense.
Oh, oh my gosh, I thought shelooked familiar.
Okay, that makes so much sense.

Todd Buonopane (05:13):
She started opposite Whoopi Goldberg in
Madison Square Garden.

So she's like, I can do anything now.
Whatever.
It's amazing.

And the other one, uh, Anjali is from like a
little Broadway dynasty family,I guess.
Because one day I said, Oh,what are you doing on your day
off?
And she goes, I'm gonna dropoff my brother.
And I said, Where?
And she goes, Broadway.
He's in MJ.
Just like a little MichaelJackson in MJ.
Oh my god.

So cute.

Incredible.

Oh gosh, to have that life.
I love that so much.
Um, so we so we just wanted totell you like you were
absolutely beaming during thebows, and it just was like, it's
just so wonderful to watch youup there.
And so we wanted to know, um,just as a little intro, how has
it been for you jumping into theworld of Frozen after just
having wrapped up your run inAndré De Shields's Tartuffe,

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which I'm sure was a verydifferent thing.
How has that been for you?

Yeah, I mean, I was playing the mean grandmother
in that show.
Um only play things very closeto me.
Um, it has been such a joybecause I mean the show is
beautiful and the people are themost fun ever.
And the second day we hadlearned all the music and we sat

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down to do our read through,and I was so excited because I
was like, oh, everybody herewants to have fun.
And I feel like Frozen is oneof those shows you see that you
want to walk out thinking, oh,that cast was having the time of
their lives.
And we are honestly having somuch fun.
My mic is not on in so manylike dance numbers where I am

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just talking up a story.
I mean, Olaf is just talking toall the dancers, encouraging
them to kick higher.
I there's one girl that I'malways like, look me in the eyes
and kick, you know, and she ohmy god.
Joy and fun is just spillingout to the audience, it's making
it more fun, I think.

They need to do one performance where they put
your mic on.
Just one mic on performance.
One mic on performance.
Oh, and I'll come back for thatone.

Yes, Olaf unedited.
Absolutely.
Oh my god.
Well, it's so obvious.
Like, you can't do that.

Yeah, no, you can tell every single person up
there is just having the time oftheir life.
It's great.
Beautiful.

And obviously, you know, we're a Disney
podcast, so we'll get more intolike the Disney of it all.
But we also wanted to take thismoment before we really get
into the Frozen stuff too.
Conor and I are both actors,we're both equity members, and
we also want to thank you foryour work as a counselor on
Actors' Equity.
So no, thank you.
And we we've like watched yourvideos, like like breaking down

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just like healthcare.
So before I get too, you know,into it, our audience has a fair
amount of theater people in it.
Um, but we also just, you know,you know, a lot of people
listening are just Disney fans.
So I was wondering if for amoment you could talk a bit
about your work in Actors'Equity for folks listening who
might not be as familiar with,you know, the actors union and
and the work that you do.

Yeah, sure.
I actually just before this, Iran, I was the chair of a
two-hour meeting on touring.
Um, you know, the actor's life,living my life all day.

Thank you for being here today.
Oh my gosh.

What are you?
Um I'm gonna go back in time.
Yeah before actors' unions, theway that actors were treated
was shocking.
So, like the a show would betrying out out of town and it
would fail.
It wasn't going well, and thenthe actors would go to work the
next day and the set would begone.

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They suddenly their hotelsweren't paid for anymore, they
couldn't get home because theproducers would cut and run.
There used to be a time when wehad to buy our own costumes if
we wanted things to wear onstage.
So I like to say if it wasn'thuman nature for the big guy to
F with the little guy, wewouldn't need unions, but it is

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and we do.
And I've worked for wonderfulpeople.
The people at Paper Mill are solovely to us, but like Actors'
Equity has really set thestandard of how to treat actors
and stage managers, and it'sstill a fight, you know, there's
still a lot that we're fightingfor, and um, you know, health

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care in this time we're in isreally important.
And I actually right before Igot on here, I just uh paid my
$300 to start my six months ofhealth care on January 1st with
the Actors' Equity HealthCongress.

Yes, honestly, congrats.
Yep, yep.

But it's hard to achieve because health
insurance is an evil.
Um, but I'm really proud of thework I've done.
I'm proud of working with thepeople that want to volunteer
for their fellow members.
And, you know, if you're in aunion and you're unhappy with
what's going on with the union,then get involved because you
are the union.
A union is only the people thatare in the union, right?

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And there's always things to befrustrated with at work.
But if you ever stop to thinkhow they would treat us if
someone wasn't creating rulesfor them to abide by, yeah, you
start to feel a little betterabout it.
But thanks for asking aboutthat.

Yeah, yeah.
No, it's just such an importantpart, I feel like, of you and
your story and like how we knowyou.
So we wanted to make sure thatit was included in here.
Yeah.
Okay.
So now we'll move on to some ofthe Disney stuff because that's
what we do.
Um, first off, what level ofDisney fan are you?
Like how, how, how extreme arewe going here?

Okay, so I will never turn down a trip to
Disney.
Great.
And I know how to get in freeat any park because I just know
people that work there.
The problem is when you get infor free, you can't do any fast
pass stuff.
Right.
Because you can't, it's not onthe app.
But I I can always usually findsomeone to walk me into a park

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because you know it is indeed aninvestment.

Indeed.

Very much so.
But like, you know, the DisneyRenaissance starting with like
The Little Mermaid, like I wasthe right age for being like,
oh, this is what a musical is,right?
And yeah, I mean, my favoriteDisney movie as a kid, though,
was The Fox and the Hound.

Who hurt you?

What a good choice.
Who hurt you?
It's so sad, but the fox's nameis Todd.
And so You know, when you're alittle, if something has the
same name as you, you're like,my favorite.
You're like, that's me.
Oh, that's it.
Yes.
But I've tried to watch itrecently and I'm like, this is
so sad.

Oh, I can't get through it at this age, I
can't get through it anymore.
That's on the shelf now.
Yeah.
Yeah.

No, when you're the best of friends, like if
that ever comes up in like ashuffle, I'm like, nope, we're
skipping, we're skipping, can'tdo that one today.

There's so much death in Disney movies.

So much.
But I think it's made Disneyfans like, I like to think like
the very like empathetic andlike sensitive people we are,
maybe, right?
Sure, sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Are well adjusted.

Uh slightly.
I don't know.

No.
Okay.

But I'm a good, I mean, I've already seen
Zootopia 2.
I'm a good Disney fan.

Oh, you're better than two of us.
You're the head of the two ofus.
So we we were too busy seeingWicked five times.

Well, I'm AMC A-list, so I see movies for
free.

Oh.
Yeah.
Great.
Great.
Oh, we're we're gonna get alongjust fine.
I miss my AMC A-list so much,so much.

Okay.
Um, so what were some of yourfirst connections to both Frozen
and Olaf?
Like, do you remember theFrozen craze of it all?

Yeah, I mean, I remember seeing that movie, and
well, Josh Gad and I workedtogether um in Spelling Bee.
And he was such a love.
We enjoyed each other so much,and he was really, really kind.
And to this day, he's always wedon't talk all the time, but if

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I when I text him or when hetexts me, we like you know, we
can like catch up with eachother.
And I think he's honest to Goda good person, and I think he is
so funny and weird.
And what's funny is he had ahard time in Spelling Bee.
The director gave him a reallyhard time, and I thought he was
so great, but like you know,it's so fun to watch someone

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that's like pulling their hairout in kind of I mean, I don't
want to say smaller because it'sBroadway, but then suddenly get
to Hollywood and be huge.
And I mean the what he did withOlaf is just unmatched, right?
And and once I I knew I wasdoing this, I was like, I'm not

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gonna watch him do it.
I know Josh, I know what hedid.
I don't want to try to soundlike him, but I don't want to
try to not sound like himbecause kids have an attachment
to Olaf, so you can't reallyinvent reinvent the wheel,
right?
So I was just I can only be myversion of what it already is.
I actually think it's kind ofwhen they try to like do

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anything with Olaf, I think it'stough for kids because they
like Olaf is their favorite.
The amount of Olaf dolls inthat audience on a nightly
basis.
Oh my god.

I mean, it the the string and the merch stand
of just Olaf, Olaf, Olaf, Olaf,Olaf.
I was like, they are prepared,but you can totally see that in
your performance.
Like you can you can see themoments of like, how do I honor,
you know, the legacy of Olaf,but also like have a have make
it your own.
So it's it's very, veryapparent in all of that.

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And you know, the way that Olafhas been realized in most
productions of Frozen, includingat Paper Mill, he's a puppet,
uh, and a full body puppet atthat.
Like it attaches to your feet.
It has like the I from lookingat it, it was like there's a
center support that goes likedown your back and like between
your legs.
Oh, yeah, and that like holdsthe middle part, and then
there's the arms, and thenthere's the head.

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So like it's pretty involved.
It hurts so bad.

Oh, I was hoping that wasn't the case.

When I saw the metal rod like down the back
between your legs, I was like,No, that doesn't hurt.

What hurts is manipulating the head because
puppets are usually this action.
Yes, and this is this.
So, like, um, this is great fora podcast, acting things out
like that.
But it's my we have video too.

This is great.

Kind of make a claw, and then I lift my whole
hand, and I now have like asuperhero arm and a squiggly tot
arm on the other side.
I you can't believe the musclesI have in my right arm right
now.
And makes me sad because Ialways was like, I guess I'm
just not prone to makingmuscles.
It's just how my body was made,and I'm like, oh crap.

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And I actually were actuallybeen in the gym every day.
I might have grown muscles.
Um what's your experience withpuppetry?
You know, not other than beingmaybe even more than a Disney
fan, a Muppet fan.

Oh, okay, great.

Yeah I mean, Fozzie Bear is my phone.
My Scruff name is Wocka Wocka.

Oh my god, there you go.

Yes, too much info, too much info.

On here?
Never, never too much.

Um yeah, I mean, I they they used to say when
people would audition for AvenueQ, they wouldn't even have them
learn a puppet.
They would just come in and seeif they could move their hands
and do "Purpose.
It's that little flame thatlights a fire on..." that, like
some people have that instinctand some people don't.

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And so I've always had theinstinct.
I knew how to do it.
But uh it's it's a journey, andlike the the other thing is you
can't articulate your feet.
You have to walk flat footedbecause you have these poles
with snowball feet coming out.
So like my ankles hurt all thetime.

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I'm also just old, so thathappens.

I was thinking about that too, even getting
around backstage.
It's like you've kind of gotlike you've got to have like a
clearance around you becauseyou've got the feet and
everything.
Yeah.

Yeah.
I mean, the the people havestarted to realize they gotta
give me the right of way.
Yeah.
Like hide in a corner.
I mean, Sven is worse Sventakes up-

You and you and Sven.
Yeah, I was gonna say, you andSven.
Yeah, so where did you wheredid you start with your approach
to Olaf?
Like what I know you kind oftalked about this with you know,
honoring the Josh Gad, the ideaof Olaf that kids have, but
like in terms of puttingyourself into it, where did you
start?

I mean, I think you have to think that these
little kids invented this idea,right?
And so while being like justbursting with love for these two
sisters, which he is, he's alsolike has almost the humor of a

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child, right?
And it's kind of the likebecause they invented him,
they're he's gonna be thefunniest thing a child could
come up with, right?
And so, like, that's just likeit is a child's sense of humor,
but it's weird because I feellike adults get that it's a
child's sense of humor, so theadults laugh at it too.

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Yeah, you know, sometimes yousee a kid's movie and it's just
to make kids laugh, yes, butOlaf somehow isn't that.
I I I get two very distinctkinds of laughs in the show.
I get the kid laugh and theadult laugh.
And the um, and I kind ofsometimes I like one more than
the other, you know.
Sure.
Sometimes when we do a matineeand there's a lot of kids,

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sometimes they tell them, bequiet, behave.
And I'm like, no.

Yeah, we were talking about that yesterday.
Yes, yes, I so agree.
Well, when you said when yousaid Samantha yesterday, you got
me good.
I enjoyed the hell.

I was so happy because we were like, we're
gonna gamble on this, and 60% ofthe audience won't get it.

Oh my god, how could it?
I'm kind of like, how can yoube there and not know the
Samantha joke?
But I love it.

My friend Courtney came the other night,
who's like a big Broadway star,and she and I, this is way too
old for you guys, but we havealways loved the show Who's the
Boss?

Uh-huh.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

During Tony Danza.

Yeah.

And she thought I put that in there because Tony
Danza would always go,Samantha.
And I didn't say it like that.
But she's like, I can't believeyou made a Who's the Boss joke
in the show?
And I'm like, what are youtalking about?

Incredible.
I love that it works on so manydifferent levels.
Amazing.
Oh my God.

So when you were talking about like Olaf at his
root, he's coming from these theimaginations of these two
little girls, these twochildren.
So you've got the song, youknow, um, "a little bit of you,
a little bit of me," Olaf's alittle bit of Anna, a little bit
of Elsa.
What do you think he took fromeach of them?

Well, I mean, I think I think they they both
have an enormous amount of love,but I think the Elsa that had
to kind of go away was thesister that would do anything
for her sister and just wantedto like make her sister happy.
And and then the Anna without Imean Anna's the biggest kook,

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right?
She gave me my big bouncy butt.
And like I I I I mean, I thinkthere's crossover there that
they both start to find, butlike it's weird that Else is the
love and Anna's the kook, andthen Anna's the one that like
gives up her life for hersister.
Oh my god, I'm gonna cry.
Do you guys know how much youknow it's I like cry during the

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show?
Like Todd cries, and I'm like,oh, you can't wipe your tears
when your hands in a puppet.

Oh my god, that's totally the pull quote
from this.
Yes, it's very moving.
It gets me every time.
Every time.

Um, and I honestly in the the stage
version, the stage version haswhat I always wanted the the
film version to have, which arethose like moments with Elsa
after the the freezing momentwhere Anna where Anna's frozen
that being musicalized is justlike so so so lovely to just
like sit in that for a littlebit.
Yeah, and how good are our Annaand Elsa?

Oh my god.
It is perfect, like perfection.

Yeah, it is wild.

We were like, we were like gripping each other
so hard every time you and themopened your mouths.

It's just yeah, it was the whole cast, everyone
is insane.
Like I just have Daniel asKristoff, and you have Sam
Gravitte as Hans.

It's perfect.
First time he walked intorehearsal and looked at me, I
was like, oh, I can't look himin the face.
He's too pretty.
He's too pretty.
He's too pretty.
Not fair.
Your friend Mark that playsWeselton.

That like we talked about him so much after
the show.
Yeah, born for the role.

And then he has his little music moment, and I'm
just like, sing, sing, sing,sing, go off.

He has more probably credits than anybody in
the show.
Look at his look at his bio.
Oh, we did.
He was in the original MammaMia kids.
Yeah, like whatever.

He uh just he just completely, I was like
stealing every single scene hewas in.
I was like, wow, wow, wow, wow,wow.
But okay, last thing I'll sayon this sort of like crafting
Olaf thing.
So he's got a little bit ofElsa, he's got a little bit of
Anna.
What's the little bit of Toddthat's in there?
Oh, jeez.
Um besides a possible TonyDanza joke, but not actually.

You know, I am very much a rule follower,
except when I'm not.
And he really brings out thenaughty in me.
And like, I think like I lovethat.
And I think that's part of whyI like talk through all the
dances, and I'm just talking tothe dancers.

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And there was one point wherethey do this, like in "Hygge,"
they do this dance with thecops, kind of like kind of like
Gaston and yeah, yeah.
And one of the dancers waslike, Todd, this is really hard
for me.
Can you stop talking to me?
I was like, oh sure, totally,totally.
But like, I am like there'slike a sense of naughty that it

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brings out to me.
And like the way he's like, hepicks on Kristoff a little bit.
Yeah, he does because like hiscommitment is to Anna and he
doesn't know about this guy yet.
Um I don't know.
It it feels like I am such arule follower.
I am always looking out forpeople's feelings, and I feel
like I get to get out this otherside of me with him.

I love that.

I love that.
That's fantastic.

Well, speaking of what you were talking about
earlier as well, I yourperformance was was kind of the
first time I started thinkingabout Olaf's age because of
that, like very childlike.
There was this one line, theway you delivered, Oh, you're
hugging, that made me kind ofgo, like, oh yeah, like what
where is Olaf's mind when itcomes to love?

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Like, obviously, he heunderstands love very deeply,
but is also very childlike aboutit in other ways that you made
so evident in that line.
I thought it was hilarious.

I mean, I think that's the only way to deliver
that, right?
Right?
Like, because you hear the kidsgo, they hear the kids giggle
because, like, like two peoplethat aren't related hugging,
what?
Like, that's a big oh yeah.
Um, by the way, when you said Istarted thinking about Olaf's
age, I'm like, what?
Cause I'm old.

No, not at all, not at all.
We were gonna be friends.
No, we're still gonna be.
I swear you're gonna come outof this and we're gonna be
friends.
Um, I promise.
Um, no, you because he lived inthis very because the why the
wise part of him was obvioustoo, and that I kind of always
put Olaf in like the morechildlike land, but there is

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like a wisdom to him tellingAnna what love really is that
made him be like this almostlike otherworldly, like ageless
kind of thing that I don't know,something about the way that
you were playing it reallybrought out to me.

Thanks.
I think he doesn't have thecomplications of a human life,
right?
Like he doesn't have a lot ofexperience, so he is young, but
like of course I know what loveis.

Right?

Because and it he's kind of born out of what
was in these kids' heads whenthey were little kids, and none
none of the junk that hashappened since then.
Yeah, yeah.
So, like, yeah, I feel like ashuman beings, it's good to grow
up and learn.
But like, I I mean, as actors,do you ever think about like how

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fearless you were when you werea kid?
I would just like get up andmake my fourth grade class, and
I'm like, we're gonna sing thissong.
And I just didn't know to bescared.
Yeah, you know, and as we getolder, there's so much inside of
us that tells us we that weshould be scared.
This isn't gonna work, thisisn't, you know.
And so I think the the braveryof being a kid also is is in him

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too.

Yeah.
Wow, you're kind of touchingon, we'll have a question for
you about it later, but like thedeeper themes of why we wanted
to do this podcast.
This is it's going too well.
It's going too well.

Oh no.

Am I a host now?

I think this is it.

We're just you love the Muppets, you've got,
you've got the knowledge.

We're good.
Um, I wanted to say too,speaking of the kid, the, you
know, the kids' reactions toOlaf, I think one of my favorite
character entrances in anymusical is Olaf's because it's
like everyone's kind of youforget that you're waiting for
him because the show is soentertaining and so fun.
But then there's that sense oflike somebody's missing and it's
Olaf.
And there is always, every timeI've seen it, and it happened

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last night too, there's alwaysthis like coup that goes through
the audience when Olaf finallywalks on of just like delight.
Um, and I want to know, firstof all, if you can hear, if you
can hear that when you come on.
Um, but if there are any othermoments where you've really
heard something from theaudience that like of them
responding to Olaf, probablychildren.
But I want I reacted as anadult too, so you never know.

I mean, my first performance of it, and like
sometimes I'll get like entranceapplause, and sometimes I just
get cooing too.
But um, that first performance,they like lost their minds.
And I had to stand there andlike Anna and Kristoff had to
hold, and I literally had tosay, Don't cry, don't cry, don't
cry, don't cry.

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Because like it's just like,because it's not about me.
I'm not like, they're not likeTodd's here, but they're like to
hear like an unadulterated likelove for a sweet character is
just really beautiful.
I was so moved by it.
Yeah.
I mean, the other stuff I love,and it happens rarely because

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people are told to behave, is uhwinter's a good time to stay in
and cuddle, put me in summer inAlbia.
And it's really fun when theytalk back, when the kids, you
know, and like there was one,like someone a little older went
like uh happy snowman so loudthat I almost went, That's

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right.
I have but I couldn't from likethe balcony didn't hear him, so
I'm like, I can't reallyaddress it.

So oh my god.

Oh it that stuff really gets me.

And what a perfect time of year to kind of
be having those moments too.

Just like everybody at a point in my
career where I just want to havefun.
Let me just be in the show, afun show with fun people and
make people smile.

Yeah, speaking of going back, I that's
probably why we all starteddoing it in the first place,
right?

Yeah, you know, but no, like I I had that moment
sitting there, and with theChristmas trees that are on lit
up on the side, like before theshow started, I'm like, oh, it
is so right to see Frozen rightaround Christmas time.
I'm like, this just feels itjust feels correct.

Yeah, everybody's doing it right now,
and I'm so happy because itwasn't a success on Broadway, it
didn't sell well.
I think they just spent toomuch money on it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know the ins and outs.
I I don't want any show toclose.
Yeah, but um but I'm I'm happythat it's turned into this thing
that's playing everywhere, andlike people from the Rawway team
have come to see us, and it'sbeen lovely.
Oh, that's fantastic.

So thinking about that original production of
Frozen and now this version thatyou have here at Paper Mill, so
what what do you find that isunique to this production of
Frozen?

You know, well, it's also a half an hour
shorter.
You know, I I have a lot offriends that were in that
Broadway production, and it wasstressful.
You know, like Disney hadn'thad a hit since Aladdin, and
they were putting a lot of eggsin this basket, and I think it
was, I don't, I don't thinkanybody acted poorly, but I
think it wasn't fun.

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I have a lot of friends thatwere in it that and we from day
one were just like if we'relaughing, they're laughing.
Right?
If you found out that like TomHanks was not having fun in the
studio while recording the ToyStory movies, you'd be so upset.

Mortified.

Yeah.
So it's just I I mean, I knowit's so it's all I keep saying,
but like we get excited to dothe show every night.
Like Sammie, who plays Anna, wedid the matinee yesterday, and
I didn't see her before shestarted.
I didn't see her until I cameon, and she's like, I don't like

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this.
We gotta we gotta talk, wegotta hug before the show.
You can't just come on stageand that's the first time I see
you.
It's just I get really excitedto see the people in the
building.
And and I I I just think itmakes a big difference.
And I think the people that didit on Broadway were lovely.
I just think it wasn't, and I'mspeaking completely out of

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turn, but I think it wasn'tallowed to be joyful because it
was so stressful.

Yeah, there's a lot of pressure on it.
Yeah.
So what about the story ofFrozen?
Kind of thinking more bigpicture.
Do you think resonates withaudiences specifically now?
Like, why do you think this isgetting produced so much?
And why do you think it shouldbe getting produced?

I mean, the basic theme that we are we turn
the true love on its head, youknow, with the love of the
sisters.
No woman needs to be rescued,and like Anna finds love, and
Elsa learns to love herself, andthen they both are willing to

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sacrifice themselves for eachother, and I I just think we're
in a tricky time of the world,and to just see people that are
just willing to give ofthemselves for someone else they
love, and it's not romanticlove, it's just family love of a

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person, and I don't thinkthere's a lot of stories like
that, and uh I'm especially inkids' stories which tend to be
simplistic, and um I mean, evenseeing Zootopia 2, not to give
it away, but I'm like, those twomain characters are I think a
man and a woman, a rabbit and afox, but they're there's no

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attempt to make them romanticcounterparts.
Yeah, they're they're justfriends, they're good to each
other, and it's I don't know, Ijust think that's really low.
It's people that a lot of thestory is them struggling to
learn how to be good to eachother in both these stories, so
yeah, and the songs rock,they're so good.

The music is great, and honestly, I'm like
the music in the musical, I theadded stuff is so good.
"Dangerous to Dream" gets meevery single time.
Oh, yeah, "Monster."

I everything the ensemble gets is just so
good too.
That's what we were gonna askyou next.
It's really going, it'sperfect.
We were gonna ask you what'sthe song?
I mean, maybe it changes.
What are you like bopping alongto backstage?
Like, what can what song canyou not resist?

I to be honest, I love colder by the minute.
When they're like when like thealso our "Colder by the Minute"
is so good that like it's sogood, it dance, they are dancing
their face.

That's what I was saying.
I said I was like, everybody ispointing their damn toe.

Abby Lee Miller would be prowed, like but like,
and then the the the like uhAnna and Elsa and Kristoff and
um and Hans have all thoseinterjections, and Elsa has that
one, "Iiiiiiii caaaan't" andit's I'm like, we are making
children gay when she sings thatepisode.
Yes, so good.

Yes, I was hearing I was hearing things in
your "Colder by the Minute" thatI haven't heard when I've seen
it done other places.
Yes.
I was really hearing, and maybethis is also because I low-key
kind of missed the song, but Iwas really hearing Anna's "True
Love" parts.
Oh, yeah for the the littlebits because that's all we have
left of that song now.

Yeah, we know I miss it, but like they had to
make it shorter, yes, they did.
Make I mean somehow Lion Kingis a bit of the exception of
like turning something into whattwo and a half, three hour
musical.
And I think that just becausethere's so much artistry thrown
at that, and it's kind of itsown thing, but I don't I think

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the kids start to get bored ifwe go too long.
Sure, sure, sure.

They were all like locked this, this did feel
like the right amount of timefor them.
They were all like very lockedin to like the flow.
I felt it.
Yeah.

All right.
So thinking of Todd career now,do you have any bucket list
Disney characters that you wouldlike to play, whether they're
existing or not yet written forthe stage?

Oh, I don't do you know what part has eluded me
like crazy?
And it's not even that I'mdying to play it, but I was like
offered Cogsworth at theCogsworth.
I knew you were gonna say that.

I was gonna say it.
I was like, tell me it'sCogsworth.

I was offered Cogsworth at the Muny, and then
I couldn't do it.
I wasn't free.
And the Muny is the best jobever, if you've ever heard of
the Muny and St.
Louis.
It's the best job ever.
And I can't believe I had toturn it down.
Um, and since then, I cannotbook Cogsworth.
It's the Cogsworth course.

Okay, we have to break that for you.

We're gonna break that for you.
But like, I'm not even, I'mlike, I don't need another heavy
costume.

Fair enough.

Fair enough.
I mean, my dream, my ultimatedream would be to do something
with the Muppets.
I think I I don't know if Iwould be able to control myself.
I think I would like I havefriends that like got to do
appearances on Sesame Street,and they're like, it's really
hard to just not start crying.

Oh my god.

But when it's attached so hard to your
childhood in that way, it likeit like digs down deeper than
anything you know.
Like, I feel like I can talk toMeryl Streep, but if I run into
someone that I was a fan ofwhen I was a kid, I'm like, I
can't do anything.

That happened to me last week.
We did, I was in a MuppetChristmas Carol concert, and
Bear from Bear in the Big BlueHouse was in it.
And I just was like looking upat Bear, like I couldn't, I
could not even handle myself.
All the pictures on the colour.

There are pictures of Caroline.
Yeah, she you look like achild.
I could not believe it.
It was unbelievable.

I totally agree.
Yeah, I I mean, and and eversince you know Rob Lake closed,
I think everybody's talkingabout like the Muppets need to
be like the stars of the show.

Yeah.
Yeah, they yeah, I heard thatthe mistake.

We need them to be the star of the show.

Yeah, they weren't yeah, well, they they've
like tried things before, theydid developmental things with
the Muppets, but yeah, I'm justlooking forward to the Cole
Escola Miss Piggy movie.

Oh my god.

Gonna be unreal.
Yeah, it's so incredible.
I don't know how to live up towhat I want it to be, but I
think it will.

I think it cut.
Oh my god.

It truly will.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.

Um, we have another overall career question
for you, kind of zooming out alittle bit.
Do you think there is any, youknow, speaking of your character
you just played in in Tartuffeas well, do you think there's
any kind of through lineconnecting the characters you've
played?
Or if they like, you know, ifthey all sat down and had dinner
together, what do you thinkthey would be talking about?
What would that be like?
Jeez, wow.

Um, I will say most of what I play are amiable
people.
You know, I'll play like aNicely Nicely in Guys and Dolls,
uh done that a ton, and hisname's Nicely Nicely.
I'll do like a Marcellus in TheMusic Man.
I do a lot of people that maybenot always the sharpest tools,

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but like they are there's acertain joy they carry with
them.
What was fun about Tartuffe isI never get to play mean.
I'm and when I lived in LA, Iwould go in for like gay
assistant, snarky gay assistant,and they're like, you're too
nice for that.
And you put a tiara on me andcall me grandma, and suddenly
I'm a real bitch.

Um, okay, we have an explicit rating.

And um, I don't know.
I mean, that was really fun.
I mean, but even this summer, Iplayed someone who was a
murderer, but he was the nicestguy in town.
And so, like, I have the kindof face that everybody walks up
to me and asks me fordirections.

Yeah.

I'm the safest looking person to them, and they
will just I'll be in anothercountry and people will push by
to ask me.
And I'm like, I don't speakthis language.
Um, so I don't know.
I think I I think I've played alot of like amiable people in
people that like to make jokesor people that are the butt of

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the joke.
You know, um, yeah.
I don't know.

No, no, that's a great answer.
That's a question.
No, you were cooking there.
No, I like that.
That's a great answer.
What a question.

Right.

I love that tonight.
You can come back and you cangive us your final answer if you
think of something else.

Uh, so one of the things that we talk about a lot
on our podcast is uh the sortof like grown up magic and
connecting back to the thingsthat brought us joy when we were
younger, uh, or anything thatjust makes us feel like magic is
real.
So, like we just did a wholeepisode about wicked for good

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and how much that just was Ifelt like so much magic was
happening there.
Both of us really did.
And so I'm I'm wondering foryou, like what.
Where do you find grown-upmagic now?
Where do you find places thathearken back to something that
where you were younger orsomething that is just like

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special and beyond words?

I mean it's what I do for a living, right?
I I think I I dress up and Iplay pretend.
And I think that's why I dothat.
I always say that like the whenI figured out I couldn't catch
a ball, my mom let me auditionfor like the children's theater

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performing troupe.
And you walk in and you'relike, oh, these are my people.
I went to um theater campgrowing up, Stage Door Manor in
the Catskills.

Oh yeah, baby.

Seven summers, baby.

Oh yes.

Back then the owners used to say that they
would have the staff like raidthe costume storage and like
dress up like people and standaround pianos and just do
sing-alongs the day all of thecampers were arriving.
Because this is to give away myage a little bit, before the
internet.
And the we theater dorks didn'tknow how to find each other.

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And they said when we got tolike walk into like the main
area and people were just likestanding around singing all
these musical theater songs,they would say you could see
kids really take their firstbreath, you know, because they
just feel safe and they'reamongst people that get them.
And so I I mean, it's one ofthe greatest joys of being of

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doing what I do is all of mybest friends are people I met
doing this.
You know, even if they're notactors, you know, my best
friend's a company manager, mybest friend's a stage manager,
and we're all just kind of inthis world of making silly
little plays.
And uh, you know, it means wedon't totally ever have to grow

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up.

Yeah.

But we still need insurance.

Yeah, that always puts a damper on it a
little.
But that that made me reallyemotional.
I love thank you for sharingthat story.

Yeah, I definitely felt like there were
a lot of I don't know.
I felt like there were somekids who like, you know, took
that breath last night, likewhen we were there.
There was this little girl whowas behind us, and God bless
her, she was all decked out inher outfit, and "Let it Go"
started, and she began to singcompletely on pitch the whole

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time.
On pitch the whole time.
She had it, she was confident,and she sang the whole thing,
and it was just like such asurreal experience where I'm
just like, this is incredible tosee Mary Kate Morrissey, who is
like technique for days, andthis this little girl behind us,
and she's just they're justvibing.

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Something unlocked, and thisgirl little girl is just no
inhibitions whatsoever.
She is just here in the moment.
Like it was really, reallyspecial.

Can I tell you something special about "Let It
Go?" Um, the ensemble has thesebackup vocals that they sing
backstage, and we very quicklythey all have to like stand
around like uh a conductor'smonitor where they can see the
conductor and it's off stageleft, and none of the principals

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sing.
But we all come out at thatmoment and do what we call the
"Let it Go" rave, where they allwe all just like dance around
while the and like I'm in my40s, right?
So I'm like, but I'm like, it'sjust because we want to have
fun.
And like I'm like, I keepsaying to myself, I'm like,

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every every once in a while, I'mlike, I'm tired, I'm gonna stay
in my dressing room.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
Keeping something fun is achoice.
So that's another pool quote.

That's another pull quote.

Yes, oh my god, my God, we're gonna have to
turn these into t-shirts.
Also, yeah, you're like, oh,I'm bopping to "Colder by the
Minute." Meanwhile, there's a"Let it Go" rave happening every
night.
Oh my God.
I'm so glad I know that now.

Yeah, at my funeral, there needs to be a
"Let it Go" rave.

"Let it Go" rave.

It's required.

Um, so we're going to wrap up this little
interview portion of this.
We're gonna play a little gamewith you after.
Don't worry, it's a simple, youcan't get the game wrong.
Um, but we always like to askeverybody a few rapid fire basic
Disney questions.
You already told us yourfavorite movie.
Are you submitting The Fox andthe Hound as your favorite
Disney movie?
And that can be the answer fortoday.
This is these are today'sanswers.
Great.

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Yes, yeah, yeah.
Okay, excellent choice.
Favorite Disney princess.

I'm gonna say Rapunzel because I think Tangled
does not get it does not.
We're all about crazy deserved,it does not.
And and I think she's like, Ilove that the princesses got
weirder in recent years, and Ithink she's a bit of a weirdo.
And I'm sorry, when she cutsthat hair short, I'm like, oh,

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you figured it out.
Yeah, it's your look.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

You know how much I wanted to chop my hair
after I saw that movie?
I was like, this has gotta bemy look too.
Absolutely.
That's a great I love theweirdo princesses too.
Okay, favorite today, Disneysong.

Oh I think it has to be something that Howard
Ashman wrote with Alan Mencken.
Um I'm just gonna say "Belle,"the opening of Beauty and the
Beast.
Can't go wrong with it.
I mean can't go wrong withthat.
I just think that like theythey gave us Little Mermaid, and
then they were like, we'regonna give you a sophisticated

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Broadway opening.
Yeah, a Broadway musical.
Yeah, yeah.
Where we meet a bunch of thecharacters, we know how how
everyone feels about the maincharacter.
It is sophisticated andthrilling.
And "Marie, the Baguettes,hurry up," you know.

"I need six eggs, too expensive." "Those fish,
they smell."

Oh my god.
The what the line that nobodyever realizes is there is "those
fish, they smell" "those fish,they smell."

That's one of my favorite ones.

What's that?

It's it's almost it's at the very, very, very end
where all of the layers arehappening.
So, like when Gaston's singingand Belle's there, there's
there's like "those fish, theysmell." It's fantastic.

I want to be that I want to be those fish
they smell.

I want to be, I want to be those fish they
smell, and I want to be thelittle nightstand that has the
baseball bat in the fight sceneuh in the film.

They do feel like they would be all one
track.
Speaking through lines, like,yeah, those are all one track,
yeah.
Great.
Okay, favorite Disney villain.
Ursula, correct.
Yeah, great.
You passed the episode.

Well, she is the gayest, and like you want your
villains to be fun and not too,too scary.
I I take a I don't quite likehow scary she gets at the end of
the movie, but like but like,you know, like Scar gets too

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scary for me, and likeMaleficent gets too scary for
me, you know.
But there is a little bit of aa drag to Ursula that I'm like,
okay, I'm more comfortable withit.

Yeah, there's a level of fabulousness where
you're just like kind of like Iwonder if she did get her way.
Would the world really be sobad?

Yes, yeah.
So she's having so much funthat like how bad could it
really go, right?
Bad.

I mean, but let's be honest, the best
villain song in terms of musicaltheater, which was completely
inappropriate for us aschildren, was "Hellfire" in
Hunchback.

I basically done an entire episode on that.

How dare they put that in a cartoon?

With some of those visuals hopping out of the
fire, I don't know what wasgoing on, but I mean I love it.
Yeah, yes.

We grew up fast, watching that.

Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And great.
Our final, our final of thisrapid fire, now that we know
that you are experienced withthe parks, what's your favorite
parks attraction?

Oh.
I I'm just gonna say what Ialways loved as a kid was Mr.
Toad's Wild Ride.
Go straight to the water.
Speaking of hell, yeah,speaking of hell.
You go to hell.

You go to hell, baby.

But like I, you know, my sister would be like,
let's go here.
I'm like, we gotta do Mr.
Toad's.
But the first time I ever wentto Disney, I was eight years
old, and we walked in just atthe beginning of the day, and I
said, Well, we gotta see a show.
And they're like, Well, there'sno show for a while.
And I um and I said, Well,where's the show gonna be?

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And they're like, It's behindthe castle.
And I sat on the ground forthree hours until the show
started.
Because I was like, I've gottasee a show.

Oh, we all would have understood each other
as children, and we all wouldhave understood each other so
well as kids.

The other thing I must tell you is that back in
the day, I sat in the audienceof the new Mickey Mouse Club.

Oh my gosh.

You know, like Britney and Justin.
Justin?
Yeah.
And it was when it was the MGMStudios, you could like, it was
connected to there, and youcould like there was no like
online.
You had literally had to go andsay, like, are there tickets?
And there were.
And I found out I got tickets,and I made my mom tech take me
back, I think I was 12, take meback to the hotel because I

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wanted to wear my stage doort-shirt on.

Because I was gonna ask you, did you want,
were you watching, like, why amI not up there?
Why am I not in the MickeyMouse Club?

I mean, I never thought I was cool, and those
people are cool.
But um, but the the and part ofit is I was such a good
laughter, and the camera caughtme laughing so many times that
they would play me in episodesfor the rest of the run,
laughing, and all the kids inschool would be like, How many

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times you go to the Mickey MouseClub?
I'm like, I was just thereonce.

That's iconic.

That is funny for me.
Yeah.

Honestly, they should have like done sort of
like the Friends situation withuh with what's his name?
The the Barista.
What's his name?
Oh, where um all of a sudden hebecame like a featured thing.
Gunther, yes, Gunther.
Yes.
Like you were you're theGunther of Gunther of Mickey
Mouse Club Mickey Mouse Club.

Oh my god.

That's goals.

Featured laugher.
That should be on your resume.
Yes.

Is that that's that should be in special
skills.

Featured laugher.

Yeah, there you go.
I mean, meanwhile, also inviteme when you're in a show because
I'm the best audience member.

Oh my god, great to know.
Oh my god.

I do laugh.
All right.
So in our last couple minutesthat we have you, we're gonna
play a quick little game, andthis is a little superlative
game.
So it's who's most likely toblank.
Okay.

So we will give you who's most likely to do
this, and you tell us whichcharacter from Frozen would be
the most likely to do thisthing.
Okay.

There's no wrong answers on this one either.
So like no pressure.
Okay, I'm still nervous.

It's whatever your soul tells you.
Yep.

Here, we can take a group breath real quick,
ready?

We're here to have fun.
Yeah.

Fun is a choice.
Having fun is a choice.

Thank you.

I'm literally putting that on a wisdom I have
injected into your pocket.

I'm I'm telling the oh my god, we don't
we're gonna be like, we don'teven have to look for anything
to pull.
Thank God.
This is gonna be so easy.

All right.
So which character from Frozenis most likely to clap when the
plane lands?

The things we make people do on this podcast.
I think Anna.

Yeah.
Yeah, that's a clapper.

That feels right.
Yes.

And I think she cheers people on.

Absolutely.
Yes.

Yes, yes, supportive.

Excellent.
Which Frozen character is mostlikely to be late for their own
birthday party?

Anna.

Yeah, I kind of had that thought too.

I kind of had that thought too.
She's late for the coronation.
Right, right, right.

Which character from Frozen is most likely to
write a memoir?

Oh.
I'm gonna say, I think thatlike in an attempt to like
redeem himself, he would write alike what I've learned that
Hans would like write like howhe became the person he was, and
now how he's better.

Oh, yeah.
The cover would totally be him,like it would be him, like you
know, like.

I almost thought you were gonna say Olaf, and I
was like, Olaf writing a memoirwould be wild.

Yeah, it would be wild.

Best selling.

I don't remember much, and then I was
here basically.
Like I was disappeared.

There's no way I could operate the hands to have
him hold the pen anywhere.
There you go.

Right.
Okay, which character fromFrozen is most likely to have
the highest screen time?
Who's scrolling?

Oh.
Oh.
Well, I mean, let's be honest.
If you gave Olaf a screen, hewould never look away.
Yeah.
He'd be one of the things thatI'm gonna do.
He could be an iPad kid.

Yeah, yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.

survive a zombie apocalypse?
Elsa.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's true.

She'd freeze him.

Yeah, yeah.
I know we said there are nocorrect answers, but some of
these there are.

Yeah, that's correct.

Yep.
Okay.
Which character from Frozenwould be most active in the
group chat?
Oh.
Yes.
Yep.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.

forget to mute themselves in aZoom meeting?

Um okay.
I'm gonna throw in, I'll throwin a I'll throw in a weird one.
Weselton.

Yes.

Yes.
Because I think he'd be in themeeting and then he'd be like, I
hate this guy.
And oh, and not realize hedidn't mute him when he was
talking to him.

Yes.
And I feel like he usuallywould have somebody to do that
for him.
So he wouldn't really know.
Yeah, he would know how to doit.
Yep.
It's great.
And this is the last one.
Okay.
I promise.
This is the end.
Uh, which character from Frozenwould be the most awkward gift
opener?
What does that mean?
Like, you know what?
Everybody's watching you openyour gift.
That's hilarious.

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You know what?
It's maybe it's a me thing.
I think it might be a good one.
You know, everybody's watchingyou open your gift, and you're
like, you have to react and likebe like, oh, I loved it.
And who is just souncomfortable with everybody
watching them?

Oh, right.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, then I think it's Ithink, and we haven't said him
yet.
Let's say Kristoff.
Yes.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yes.
Because he's like a bit of alike he's a like strapping,
lovely, wonderful man, but he'slike a socially a little bit
off.

Absolutely.

He has a little bit more trouble than some.

Yes, that's so true.

That's very true.

Yeah.
Wow.
Thank you for indulging us withthat.
Yeah, thank you.

We we we love doing like little games and
things like that.

So have you ever heard the the cut song uh from
Kristoff in Frozen 2?
"Gotta Get This Right?"

Yes.
Yes.
That's so good.
Why did they that should havebeen it?
A lot of the cuts.
I'm very into the cut stufffrom Frozen 2.
Very into that.
Yes.

I'm also just generally into Frozen 2 so so
much.
Yeah.
So so much.
Okay.
Like that's also like why welove the Samantha call out.
That's one of the reasons why Iloved like I grabbed Caroline
when we saw Elsa's "Let it Go"costume.
I was like, oh my gosh, I lovehow much white is in this as
opposed to like the teal becauseit's it feels like it gives a
little bit of the the fifthspirit in Frozen 2 moment.

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I was like, I'm like, this isthis is feeling super fun.
So I any anything Frozen two,I'm like, I'm there for it.
I'm there for it.
What about Frozen 3 coming?

Oh my god.
Frozen four.
Yeah.

Oh, really?
There's gonna be two more atleast.

They said okay, good.
Yeah, yeah.

Look out, James Cameron.
This is gonna be the newAvatar.

Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's another thing.
Todd, thank you so much.
Especially knowing you're inthe middle of the show, but
knowing everything else you'redoing with Equity, thank you so
much for taking the time duringthis holiday season and all of
this run to do this with us.
We loved the show so much.
We loved you in the show somuch.

(56:31):
To everybody watching andlistening, you can see Frozen at
Paper Mill Playhouse throughJanuary 11th.
And we really hope that you do,because it is a delight.

And Todd, how should people stay in touch with
you or find you or find whatyou have going on?
Oh, what a question.

I had a wonderful Instagram, and then
Meta decided I did somethingwrong and wouldn't tell me what
it was, and took my Instagramand Facebook away, and I filed
an appeal, and they said itwould take 24 hours, and that
was six months ago.
And so I don't know how to getmy social media back.

Okay, listeners, this is what we're gonna do.
We are going to at AdamMosseri, we're gonna at all of
these people, and we are goingto get Todd's Instagram back.

Oh my God.
Do you feel free in any way?
Do you feel good because ofsocial media?

Yes.
Like I pick up my phone and I'mlike, oh, I guess I'll just do
a New York Times game instead.

Wow.
Um better for my brain.

Or I just look at Scruff.
There you go.
There you go.

Absolutely freaking Lulley.
Well, we we also we found yourwebsite.
So we'll also link your websitefor everybody if they want to.
Yep, yep, yep.
So we'll do that.
And we will um, whatever we doto the Meta gods, which I don't
even want to call them that, butyeah, crazy.
It's crazy, right?
Oh my gosh.

Yeah, and I I'm way off Twitter, so we ain't
doing anything.

Yeah, yep, us as well.
Fabulous.

Yeah, you guys are such a joy.
This was really fun.
Thank you.
So glad you for doing it.

Oh, yes, you're the best.
Thank you.

All right, take care.

Have a good rest of the day.
Have a good show.

Thanks.

Bye.

Alrighty.
Well, that's gonna do it for usfor this episode.
Thank you so much for joiningus, and thank you once again,
Todd.
Thank you, Todd.

That was so much fun.
What a delay.

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That would be a great gift.
Yeah.

That would be a great holiday gift.

Listen, last minute holiday gift, like just
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Caroline Aimetti (01:01:04):
Yes.

Alrighty.
So we will be back soon withanother episode.
I'm not saying what it isbecause every single time I say
what it is, it's the holidays,right?

Caroline Aimetti (01:01:13):
The next one's a grab bag.
You'll just have to stay tunedand follow us to find out.

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