Pop Apologists

If you like chaos, congratulations, this episode is tailor-made for you. We’ve got major courtroom drama in the Blake Lively vs Justin Baldoni case, Taylor Swift blending into Travis Kelce’s family wedding, Meghan Markle twerking (?), and a manifestation debate no one asked for. Plus, the woo-woo polyamory breakdown that needs to be studied.

(00:00) 👩🏼‍⚖️ Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni - Court bombshells, conspir...

Chanler’s back from the flight from hell—complete with zero legroom, tarmac heat, and a bralette breakdown. Lauren lands from St. Barth and immediately roasts the snack box struggle. The sisters debrief their Juicy Scoop appearance, dish on Brooklyn upgrades, and dive into the latest Karen Read courtroom twists. Then it’s The Valley's most overblown scandal (a pantry tequila swig??), Blake Lively’s legal backpedaling, Tayl...

This week, Lauren and Chanler are coming to you from full LA trip prep mode. From Beyoncé's celestial performance to Mormon Wives chaos, they're breaking down the biggest stories. Expect mystery, mom drama, reality TV breakdowns, and one very bold Vogue request.

• [00:00] 🎬 Packing, filming, and a camera setup saga—plus, why Chanler is unusually zen pre-LA

• [07:46] 🎤 Beyoncé’s LA concert: iconic cameos, wardrobe wins, and...

Fresh off their Ballerina Farm pilgrimage, the girls are back—and chaos reigns. Lauren and Chanler unpack the alleged threat Blake Lively’s legal team made against Taylor Swift (yes, the one about exposing 10 years of private texts 😳). Then it’s a deep dive into the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: ketamine therapy, family betrayal, facelifts, and MomTok delusions. Plus, major developments in the Karen Read trial a...

Lauren and Chanler’s dad, a family law attorney, returns to share legal wisdom on divorce, prenups, and child support, plus wild stories like chasing stolen goods. They reflect on their LDS upbringing, raising five daughters, and pursuing dreams at any age.

⏱️ Timestamps

[00:00–02:00] 🎙️ Dad’s Return

Listener love brings Dad back.

[02:00–04:00] 💕 Deb’s Friendship

Dad cherishes his 42-year marriage.

[04:00–09:00] 👧 Rai...

The girls are back from wedding bliss and diving headfirst into hot topics—from a possible Taylor Swift pregnancy to Diddy’s disturbing trial details. Chanler dishes on an unexpected urgent care visit, while Lauren unpacks blind items about Blake Lively’s rumored fallout with Taylor. They debate the Karen Read trial, analyze Meghan and Harry’s Beyoncé date night, and break down why a 24-year-old pageant queen is outsmartin...

While Chanler is off honeymooning, Lauren is joined by one of her closest friends and the chicest blonde she knows — Elizabeth. The duo dive deep into royal chaos, from Meghan Markle's HRH mess to Prince William's fury, and break down the Walton Goggins and Amy Lou Wood drama. They also tackle the shocking story of a ring-copying sister-in-law, Jordan Hudson's PR reign over Bill Belichick, and a family feud brewing in the ...

Lauren and Chan dive into everything we know so far from Karen Read’s retrial — prosecution and defense strategy, courtroom drama, and key witness moments. It’s all on the table.

00:00 – 08:00 Wedding Week Catch-Up

08:01 – 10:59 Case Background & Legal Overview

11:00 – 12:59 Media Impact & Public Perception

13:00 – 15:59 Jury Insights & Legal Strategy

16:00 – 18:59 Key Players & Inve...

In light of Karen Read’s retrial, Lauren and Chandler revisit her first trial from 2024. They walk through the full timeline, key evidence, legal strategies, and the emerging controversies surrounding law enforcement’s role in the investigation.

00:00 – 03:00 Intro, Format & Re-Release Context

03:01 – 05:00 Who Were John O’Keefe and Karen Read?

05:01 – 07:00 The Night in Question

07:01 – 10:00 Early...

Marriage is magical… but also occasionally maddening. In this episode, we welcome licensed marriage and family therapist Aly Bullock, to spill her wisdom on making love last long after the honeymoon.

💥 [00:02:10] We kick it off with the most-asked question about long-term relationships—and a fresh perspective you probably haven’t heard before.

💃 [00:04:50] “Non-toxic drama”? Yes, it’s a thing—and you might just be obse...

[00:00–02:00] 🚀 Was this really a “medium news week”? The girls dive into the headline that sent them — literally — into orbit.

[02:00–06:00] 🌌 Katy Perry returns from space and says she’s “never felt more connected to love.” The commentary that follows? Unhinged perfection.

[13:00–17:00] 💇‍♀️ Dyson Airwrap: myth or miracle? Lauren enters her hair reform era, and Chanler has thoughts.

[24:00–29:00] 👠 Shoe size shame and c...

Lauren and Chan chat about the countdown to Chan’s wedding and take a stroll down memory lane (0:47). They discuss the backlash over Blake Lively’s time at a donut shop (8:51), the White Lotus finale (15:03), Lauren’s suspicions about Taylor and Travis (30:18), Sydney Sweeney’s breakup + potential new romance (32:27), Meghan Markle’s new podcast “Confessions of a Female Founder” (37:42), Erin and Abe Lichy’s new podcast “C...

Lauren and Chan are joined by Olivia Snow of Mother’s Daughter Design (@mothersdaughterdesign on Instagram) to chat about all things interior design. They dive into discussing their favorite celebrity homes, as well as a celebrity home that has them puzzled: 

Emma Chamberlain’s LA house (7:52), Gigi Hadid’s New York apartment (11:57) Emma Roberts’ LA house (15:25), Kendall Jenner’s LA house (21:14), and Gwyneth Paltrow...

Lauren and Chan chat about Kim and Kanye’s latest battle (6:27), Meghan Markle’s new podcast (14:17) as well as her St. Patrick’s Day snafu (19:45), Taylor Swift’s latest easter eggs (26:34), and Donna Kelce’s surprising Instagram post (28:40). Lauren and Chan are then joined by the one and only Arielle Lorre to share the intense amount of work that goes into her career and two shocking personal stories that you have to he...

Lauren and Chan are chatting all about the latest celebrity and reality tv happenings. They dive into Blake Lively’s Another Simple Favor premiere at SXSW (4:24), Nick Viall’s reaction to Justin Baldoni on Juicy Scoop (8:33), the newest allegations about Justin Baldoni (11:06), Blake and Ryan wanting to protect their texts (16:59), Thomas Markle’s statements about With Love, Meghan (21:45), Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chala...

Lauren and Chan are joined by Taylor Lorenz to discuss all things related to internet culture. They dive into the following: The Socialite Rank (3:32), the social media ecosystem (11:33), parasocial relationships (14:35),  aspirational content (20:18),  mommy bloggers (28:33), the birth of influencer marketing (33:04),  viral content shaping societal values (36:42), AI creators & digital clones (40:31), going from an i...

Lauren and Chan are joined by Kate Kennedy from the Be There in Five podcast to chat about all the things living rent-free in their minds. They discuss Jenny Slate’s It Ends With Us HR complaint and why Justin Baldoni’s communication style may be the issue (2:32). They dive into Ballerina Farm and which publication Lauren thinks should be featuring Hannah (10:57). They take a moment on Nara Smith’s account and content stra...

Lauren and Chan are so excited to bring you the first Pop Apologists Profile on the legend and icon Demi Moore. She’s had the kind of career that is truly one in a million, but the true story behind her life is a mix of triumph, resilience, and heartbreak. From childhood struggles to public relationships that made headlines, Demi’s journey has been anything but ordinary. Hear all about Demi’s tumultuous childhood (3:22), D...

Lauren and Chan are back with part 6 of the Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni battle. They are chatting the final portion of the timeline as well as the newest developments on the case:

Ryan and Blake trying to sabotage Justin’s career with WME (2:00), the statement of contrition that Ryan and Blake wanted Justin and Wayfarer to release (4:52), Blake’s collusion with the New York Times (13:39), Blake’s request for a gag orde...