SERE - Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape

SERE stands for Survival Evasion Resistance and Escape. Military schools with a long history rooted in WWII and Vietnam teach military personnel how to survive in the wilderness, evade enemy capture, resist their captors when taken and held by the enemy, and escape their imprisonment if possible. Izzy took SERE in the Special Forces Q Course and Cameron has been a student of survival for some time. This episode Izzy and Cam will talk about their personal experiences as well as how survival is portrayed in pop culture.

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Episode Transcript

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In time. In time, there'sa gut to follow to make it through.
Did you ever when you I meanyou joined the military on a whim,
right, it was just like aboom. Yeah, yeah, I
just forgot i'd do it. Yeah. Yeah, for me, I knew

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I wanted the joints when i'd likedrive home from I used to go to
this after school program for pups becauseI didn't pay attention in school, you
know, and so like I wasbehind in my credits. So I had
to go to like extracurricular activities afterschool. And there was this program called

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ROP, which was a Regional occupationprogram. So basically instead of teaching you
like knowledge, it taught you atrade. Because they're like, these guys
aren't going to college. They gobe the welders, the mechanics. Yeah
that's pretty cool though, man,this pace, I encourage that for a
lot of people. Oh no,no, it was honestly, looking back
on it, it was like supercool. They had Like I went to

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one, I did welding for twoyears, and then I did a graphic
design class and they also had likemechanics, so they taught you how to
like, you know, do bodyshop work and teach you how to work
on engines, and they had onefor like nursing, and then they had
one for like screen printing, likemaking apparel and clothing. So it was
really cool cool and you got acrap ton of credits for going. So

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I was like, dude, Ican totally like fail all my classes and
just go here and then pass atthe end of the year. So that's
what I did. But it waslocated in like next to the ocean,
so and during the winter time itgot really cold. So every time,
like in the winter times, Iwould drive the entire way. It took
me about forty five minutes to getthere, like an hour, and I

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would drive with my windows down andno shirt on for like an hour.
And I'm like, I'm cold weathertraded. That's good man, if only
mentally, if only to know,like to set yourself in that in that
mindset of you know, the survivalmindset, you know, even if it
wasn't as cool as it could havebeen. Yeah, it was like fifty
but it was still super uncomfortable forlike, you know, for California.

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So like I started training before Ieven left. That's good man. I
feel like you you set yourself up. I feel like anybody wanting to go
into maybe an elite unit, Rangersor anything anything where they feel like they're
gonna have to go through see yourschool or endore survival situation should start with
the mindset. You got to startwith the mindset, right, we'll talk
about it today. Man, ifyou don't have the right mindset, you're

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probably gonna die, you know exactly, Like I had. I had a
buddy I was talking to. Iwas the same Zach Aldridge. He's a
danger Ranger on YouTube has a podcastas well, and he I was on
his podcast and like we were talkingabout like what we need to prep to
prep and I told him that storyand he's like, man, I took

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away my mattress and slept on thefloor for like weeks. Because he's like,
yeah, I did the same thingwhen you like, yeah, it's
all about mindset. But well,like you said, we'll get into it.
So, folks, welcome to thisepisode of the PCFM podcast. We
haven't said it in a while,but we are sitting right in the intersection
of weapons, action, the military, end pop culture. So Izzy is

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gonna explain what today's episode in sincehe's more qualified to speak on it.
I'm no Cameron. I feel likeat the end of the episode, people
are gonna see that you are justas qualified because you are. I may
have the experience, but you havethe passion. You have the passion.
Sure, I love it. It'sSEER. It's our Seer episode, folks.
Survival, Evasion, resistance, andescape. That's what SEER stands for.

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It's it's a school in the militaryand also in the civilian world,
as you will hear, but it'sit's for anybody that it might be caught
in this situation. So it's forpilots. I did it in Special Forces
training at the Q course and uhyeah, so anybody that might be in
those kinds of situations. If youfollow Granthumb on YouTube, he's a big

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time gun tuber, he was aSEER instructor, talks about it often.
So it's a great school, it'sa great and it's a great set of
skills for anybody. Really, we'lltalk about mindset as well, kind of
once we get going, but todaywe're gonna be talking about SEER. We're
kind of kind of go back andforth between the actual kind of survival side

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of it, real out real worldsurvival stuff and then pop culture examples of
that. We've kind of had.We had previous episode where we talked about
it was just a kind of aman versus nature. We had an episode
about that. We had a survivalyou know episode previously. This one,
we're going to try to connect ita little more toward to the military,
uh, and then talk about someof our personal experiences and then maybe some

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practical stuff. I wouldn't say this. Hopefully they'll be educational for you,
but you know, don't don't listento this podcast and then go try to
live in the woods for a week. You know, you might die.
Yeah, but we didn't tell youto do that. We didn't tell you
that. So, uh, folks, survival, evasion, resistance, and
escape. Uh Cameron, what iswhat have been your survival your survival training?

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Okay, so basically most of myquote unquote survival training is all self
taught, as far as just likelike when I was in the military,
I mean I learned how to makelike lean two's and you know, real
basic stuff like if you I'm tryingto think of like I ever took like
a fire making class. No,even in ranger school. Like in the
Ranger School handbook, they have alot of like knowledge about survival, like

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plan identification, like how to skina snake, how to like trap them
and all that, but you don'tdo that in Ranger School, Like we
don't do that. Plus do youthink about the Ranger mission set, It's
like we're not you know, we'rekicking indoors, We're not trying to live
with the local populace behind enemy lines, and like you know, like Special

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Forces does, which I think iscompletely ans necessarily to put them through the
Seer pipeline. So in the Rangerpipeline, it's Sere isn't a required course.
Now we go, especially like ifyou're in the Reki Section or Recky
Platoon of Regiment. Each battalion hastheir own recon section which is separate from
Regimental Reconnaissance Company, which is ourtier one unit in the seventy fifth range

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of Regiment. But those guys goto Seer when they get there. But
it's not like a pipeline for them. It's just highly highly highly encouraged because
at the end of the day,you're behind enemy lines doing recon you need
to know how to survive. Ifyou have to break contact and you get
separated. But most of my survivalyou know, I don't have a lot

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of knowledge when it comes to resistanceand escape. So if you would kidnap
me, like I haven't gotten theeducation that you did. You know,
obviously the stories that I heard fromall my buddies that went through sir is
like you don't really hear about thesurvival part. It's like that's whatever,
Yeah, hear about like when youget captured and they begin interrogating you and

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the open hand slaps across the faceand yes, giving them enough knowledge to
where you can google it and findthe same answer to make them think that
you are giving them like knowledge thatthey can use. But at the end
of the day, it's like superunclassified knowledge and you're just trying to appease
them to get you know, tobe able to get yourself by. So

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I know very basic knowledge when itcomes to that, But most of my
passion when it comes to this ismore survival skills. So I consider myself
an outdoorsman, you know, beingstationed in Washington, you're surrounded by the
beautiful outdoors and it's it's honestly acrime if you don't go out there and
use them. So yeah, Ireally enjoy like you know, kind of

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bushcraft stuff, so like making thingsout of nothing, fire making, shelter,
shelter making, all that stuff isuh is. I find it very
fun. It's a hobby of mine. But you have the military qualifications,
yes, well yeah, And andthe qualification for this qualification is that this

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was a long time ago. Itook Seer School in two thousand and six
is when we went through. Yeah, joined two thousand and five. Yeah,
middle of two thousand and six intotwo thousand and six, I think
is when I went through. Butyeah, I actually went through the Special
Forces Qualification course Seer School, theGreenberry Sier School. I guess they call

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it Seer Level three if you lookat my DT two fourteen. But yeah,
they take you through all those allthose different sections, the survival,
the evasion part, the resistance ofthe escape, and then of course the
famous part of it is the practicalexercise where you're evading and then you're eventually
captured and they slap you around fora couple of days. But it was

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really really valuable. And here's onething I will say, like you we've
talked about, we took like onshift fire we had we went and went
out to our buddy in the desertand we had a couple of I think
all those episodes eventually came out thewater class, water reprogation building. Chad,
Yeah, a survival survival expert orwhat did he call himself? A

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natural natural skills expert or Earth skillsexpert, skills expert, mister Chad what
was his last name? I forgetman, but yeah, but we did
all that stuff that they're all.My point was, it's perishable skills,
right if this is something that youwant to do, or maybe some tools

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for your tool bag when you arewhen you are going to Yeah, when
you're going camping and you just wantto have kind of a more base of
knowledge, you can have confidence whileyou're out there alone. Uh, it's
stuff you got to keep practicing,you know. Uh. Fortunately, last
year, at the beginning of theyear, me and the wife took a
Civilian Seer school with coin survival classes. See why any coin survived classes.

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I've spoken about them before. They'rereally good. I highly recommend any of
the classes if you're available in eitherthe southern California area or I think they
do stuff in northern California and alsoAlaska once a year they do it like
an Alaska Wilderness survival thing, butwe actually got to take They have a
Civilian Serier School, and I ifyou are the kind of person that wants
to really grow beyond yourself, toreally be pushed beyond your limits, your

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current limits, because we live ina very comfortable society, I totally recommend
it. Because going through their school, I could tell that they must have
consulted or asked people who were inthe actual Seer School, the Military Serier
School, about different strategies and thingsthat they could do to make it a
good valuable experience rather and because Icould tell there was a lot of parallels
with the things that they put usthrough the Civilian Seer school. For those

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who interested, the Coin Survival Classesschool is is it's Civilian Serier school,
and that it's being kidnapped in aforeign country is a very real possibility.
You get traveling, you know,like take in all that stuff that actually
happens, you know, people gettingkidnapped, people getting held for ransom,

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you know, all that kind ofstuff. And so that was that's kind
of the main thrust of the civilianshere school, they talk about things to
watch out for, you know,how to be a safe traveler, and
they actually have a separate class calledtravel Safe where they talk about those in
more detail, but we kind ofgot an overview. We'd talk about different
kinds of restraints that you might beencounter if you were ever kidnapped, and

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maybe how to defeat them if youever had the chance. We talked about
a little bit of survival stuff outin the woods, shelter building, counter
tracking ideas and best practices that theypassed along. And then they at the
end of the school, the lastnight and a half, kind of like
Saturday night going on into Sunday morning, is the practical exercise where they pretend

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to kidnap you. They all putmasks on and they grab you, They
throw you on the floor, theyzip tip your hands, they put a
hoodie on hood on you, andthen they kind of lead you around.
And we got to do it inthis kind of defunct camp area, like
summer camp area where that had cabinsand stuff. They're all full of spiders
and caterpillaries, and so they wouldput us in there and then everybody got

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to do an interrogation session, whichwas not fun though. They really we're
up in the woods and they woulddo a lot like they'd spray with hose
water, like with their garden hose, and you're just standing there shivering in
like thirty degree weather in the mouth. It was not it was not fun
and uh big big fun. Butit was cool, man. It was
a very very valuable experience. Ireally what I like about this stuff is

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that, like I was happy togo through it because it's always good to
challenge yourself, right, no matterwhat, even if like I did see
your school, Yeah, but Idid it thirteen years ago. I want
to keep I want to keep going. I want to keep twitching current.
Yeah exactly. But if you've neverhad any experience like this and you want
to find a way to really expandyour mind and push yourself to your physical

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limits, I think this is agood a good way to do it.
It's a very good it's a safeenvironment. They have safe words, they
have you know, there's there's guardrailsto what they're doing. There's not like
a torture session. But but it'sgood man, it's it's It made me
feel really happy to know that somethinglike this is out in the civil civilian
world and available to people because youknow, I get it. Everybody has

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their own problems. Life is toughdepending on how you look at it.
But here in America, generally speaking, we got it pretty easy, you
know. Oh yeah, man,I mean, like, like you said,
being the likelihood of you getting kidnappedin a foreign country, like it's
there. I'm not going to saylike it's completely gone here in the States
because you can't predict anything, rightright, I know, it's like it's

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better to stay you know, stayready so you don't have to get ready.
Yeah, but yeah, no,see your skills skills in general,
like butcher graft skills, everything,tracking skills, countertracting skills, which to
me are very cool. Yeah.Uh like uh, you know, as
as an infantry guy, I highlyencourage you out there if you're listening,

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Like, your job we're gonna getWe're gonna get deep here real quick.
Your job is to literally hunt downother human beings and kill them like that,
like real talk, man. Andif you don't know how to do
that, do you know a reallygood way to is learn to track?
Yeah, Like, there are somereally good pieces of doctrine from like Vietnam,

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Like the lurs teams in Vietnam ontracking and countertracking. Pick those up
because they talk about some wicked stuffand it's yeah, you know, I'm
not gonna give you like you gottago dig in for this ship people,
but uh, but yeah, lookup the old SOG manuals or the Special
Forces lurse teams or the Ranger Lurseteams manuals on tracking counter tracking, and
you will not be disappointed. They'reawesome. But yeah, so you should

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know how to do all this stuff. You should know. You should realize
because like the footprint tells a story, right, yeah, yeah, it
tells the story, and like youknow, I obviously it shows direction of
travel. By the prints of thefootprint, you can tell is this a
military force because everybody in the militarywears vibrum souls, like that is it?

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So like you can tell what avibrum soul looks like. Sometimes if
it's a good imprint, you caneven see the vibrum logo. So you're
like, oh, these there's peoplewearing you know, hiking boots or military
boot out here, so you're likeall military force. You can see how
fast they're moving based on how farthe the the footprints are apart. If
they're moving super fast they're striding itout, they're pretty far. If they're
moving slow, they're pretty close together. Direction of travel, like you can

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tell kind of you get a roughestimate how many there are if they're loaded
down with the sustaining equipment, basedon how heavy they are deep in the
ground. Like, there are somany tells from just a footprint. So
if you can you know, learnto read them, you know how to
defeat them as well with counter tracking. So that's another story. But yeah,
all this stuff is super cool,man. Yeah, it totally,

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it totally, uh peaks my interestjust because I'm like super autistic when it
comes to this stuff. For somereason, I have like such a fascination
with it. But yeah, Ithink these skills are you know, what
everybody should kind of look into.And when I say everybody, I mean
there's people out there regardless that justdon't care. Yeah, you know,

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they they like they they live alife of you know, comfort, and
they live and they're perfectly okay doingso. They wear rose colored glasses like
they don't think anything's going to happento them. And I don't care about
those people, but I do careabout the people that like showed like have
a genuine concern, because if youhave a genuine concern, we have something
in common. So yeah, definitelylearn you know this stuff because it could

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save your life. It could sayyour life, or it could save the
life of someone else. And that'sthat's why we're here. But yeah,
we got some we got some moviesthat we want to talk about. Yeah,
that you know, involve some ofthe seer thing. And the cool
thing about Year is, you know, it's not just survival. You know,

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there's the escape and the resistance part, which is huge. So we
have some that you know, featurethat some that are just survival and we've
had that survival episodes. We're goingto try to mesh them together. But
we got a long list and I'mexcited to talk about them because, yeah,
stuff's cool. Yeah. The firstone I want to bring up is
Rescue Dawn. It's two thousand andsix, director by Werner Hertzog, star

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of The Mandalorian season one, andChristian Bale. I don't think it's a
true story, but it's basically abouta US fighter pilot and he gets Christian
Bale, he gets shot down.It's Vietnam. He gets shot down during
a bombing run, and then heis in the woods and then eventually he
gets captured by the Vietnamese and isa base hunter story. Okay, yeah,

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Theater Dengler Dieter Dangler. Okay,that's right, but really really good
because I feel like there are parallelshis his kind of situation and how he
conducted himself to stuff that you actuallydo learn in the military Seer school.

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Like I'll just I won't. Iwon't give away the game. I know
it's a lot. I always strugglewith this man because I know there's a
lot of green Berets out there.There's a lot of military people that don't
want you to talk about what iswhat Seer school entails. Uh And and
I respect that, I really do, and so I want to kind of
like cause it's they say, it'slike, listen, this is something that

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only people who go through the trainingcan experience and should know. Are not
just should know, but like,yeah, there's like the ins and outs
and what exactly they do. It'slike and if you want to, if
you want that experience, go gotry to be a green break. Go
try to go through the Q course, challenge yourself in that way, and
then you could have that that experience. But one thing I will say is

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there's a moment in the movie Iforgets captured by the North Vietnamese and there's
they say, hey, bait,you know you see this in other uh
in other movies as well that we'lltell talk about. But they hit an
opportunity. They're like, listen,if you sign this paper, all you
got to do is sign this paperand we'll let you go. We'll put
you on a truck, we'll putyou back, and we'll take you across
the lines. You'll be back.All you have to do is sign this

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paper. Well, what it isis it's something that's like propaganda. It's
like, I realize, I confessthat I've done war crimes. You know
that America is a bad country.And it's like, you know, it's
basically propaganda for the enemy. Sothey could use it later on. And
he won't sign. He's like I'msorry, He's like, I will not
sign. Well, I'm not goingto sign. They're like, listen,
we're going to put you back inprison if you don't sign it. He's
like, I'm not going to signit, you know, And that's really

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like a thing that you know thatthese whether it's old world communist countries or
different countries and people get captured thatthey try to use that psychological warfare where
they're like, hey, listen,if you just sign this thing, man,
all you gotta do is a andthen he's like no, and they're
like, all right, back toprison with you. Get back to jail
with you, Bud. I mean, yeah, that's a super important thing.
I think it needs to be harpdone again. Is like the op

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sick Well, first of all,like there's things that happened in the military
that we just don't want to talkabout. And it's not like the whole
mystique of being in special operations.It's like, now, if if we
told you that this this podcast isopen platform, you know, I'm sure
if they had a cell phone andyou know, North Korea and they just
googled PCFM podcasts, that this wouldpop up and then something, yeah,

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right, we don't want to shareeverything. But I think it's you know,
I think it's very important, likewhat you said as far as just
like if you want the experience,uh, you become become a Green Beret,
go to see your school if youwant to know. Plus, I
don't, I don't see the advantageof like you're going through this training to
give you a taste of something youcan't predict. Right, So this is
a controlled environment, that's uh thatyou're put through and you know there's right

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answers, there's wrong answers. Butin real life you don't. You know,
training is just as you know youyou you what's the word I'm looking
for? You go? You alwaysfall down to your lowest level of train
Yeah, in a high stress environment. Right, So if you throw yourself,
if you try to war game theseschools, if you try to plan
what you're going to do or whatyou're going to say, there's a big

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chance when it actually happens and youdon't expect that you won't you won't perform
the way you did. So ifyou throw yourself into this training without any
preparation other than the will to survive, m h, you're you know it's
not it's not gonna be beneficial.That's the same thing with like all these
guys that I'm sure you get askedlike, oh, I want to go

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to the Q course like what canI do to prepare? Or like,
you know, guys hit me upand they're like, I want to go
to RASP. What should I doto prepare? And like when we went
through, damn sure, when youwent through, there was no answers.
Yeah, you know there was noanswers. You know there is. You
couldn't google how do I pass RASP. Now there's all these programs and everything
that prepare you. Yeah, there'slike YouTubers that talk about like how I've

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been prepared for selection, which ispretty cool. Yeah, which is awesome.
And you know it's physical fitness folks, that's it literally just being shape
again, guy's that's it being shape, be a guy. Just whatever they
throw out, you do it.That's literally it. And and you know
when we went through, we didn'thave that. It was just like all
unpredictable. So we got this fullexperience, you know. So I think

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when it comes down to like seeror or this crazy these crazy scenarios like
featured and rescue, don just youwant to throw yourself into the lines den
and see how you come out insteadof war gaming it and planning everything to
where when it does happen and you'renot prepared for it. You know,
you have nothing to fall back on, you have no experiences to fall back

(22:33):
on, and you want to havestuff like this, why I would recommend
survival classes or or that civilian cervicecolI previously mentioned. Uh, you want
to fail in that environment, youknow what I mean? You want you
want to fail and have the wrongreaction or get pushed beyond your limits in
that safe, structured environment before itactually happens, you know what I mean?

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And uh uh, you know,I'm not I think everybody should do
it. I was gonna say,I'm I'm not sure. I don't think
everybody should do it, but likeeverybody should do it because if you don't.
One thing, if it happens toyou, then there's a chance it
could save your life. The otherthing, even if it never happens to
you, it's it's you know,struggle, man. Struggle and suffering are

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two things that we can really learna lot from. It's really been these
can be beneficial things in our lives. And for somebody that lives a fairly
comfortable life, you have to putyourself purposefully in those situations, you know,
Uh yeah, because because otherwise there'sjust not gonna happen in real life,
unless something actually does happen, inwhich case you're pretty much screwed because

(23:38):
you never fathomed that you could everbe in the situation. She's just gonna
revert to like your animalistic you know, you don't know her, You're gonna
react, you know. Yeah,So put yourself out there, put yourself
in situations. Because the best teacherin life is failure. Yeah. You
learn the most when you fail.So okay, so down, back to

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going down. Yeah, back torescue dome, back to rescue down.
Now our tangents are over. Yeah. Yeah. Rescue Down is a really
good example of like, uh,just the horrors of a pow camp,
not only in life, but justin general. The conditions, the man,
the conditions, how they treat you. Yeah, yeah, man,

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and and and the rescue don isfun because it goes through I think all
of them. It's you've got thesurvival aspect on both sides. Before he
gets captured and after he gets afterhe and then you got evasion when he
escapes. You've got resistance when he'sin the pow camp. Uh, and
and he obviously escapes, so it'sall in there. Uh and and it's
and it really it's based on itbased on a true story, which is

(24:42):
super cool. You know, it'ssuper Another piece of pop culture that's based
on a true story that is oneof my favorite like pow movies ever created
is Unbroken. Oh oh man,so good man that movie because not just
one survival scenario. It's it's notjust one. Yes, they literally survive

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forty seven days in a floating craft. Sound. I don't know if this
is how true this is, butlike the scene where they're just there's ginormous
sharks surrounding them, yeah, andthey're this inflatable raft and like when the
Japanese plane comes in and you cansee the sharks just yeah, going around
their boat in close proximity, andthe Japanese plane comes in and start shooting

(25:25):
at them. Yeah, a junkin the water yep, yeah dude,
and they're like, you know,he's swimming and the shark comes up and
he hits the shark, yeah foot, and he doesn't even realize, Oh
my god, I shit my pantswhen I saw that. Yeah dude,
that movie. And then so that'sjust part one. That's survival number one.
And then they get rescued and ohmy god, it's the Japanese.

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Yeah, oh in the Japanese Man, it's Louis Zamperin. Is World War
two based on a true story.Uh, he's actually from Torrance, California.
Yeah, my buddy was lived inthe same neighborhood that Louise Zamporini grew
up in. And there's a plaqueon his house that said this is the
home of Louise Zamporini. Ah.Man, that's so cool. But what
I was gonna say is the Japaneseare not known, or rather they are

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known for how harshly they treated liketheir prisoners of war man, and like
people that they captured were talking likechopping heads off and like just doing the
most abhorrent stuff to anybody they conquered. Man. Back in the day,
Japanese man, they weren't all aboutlike anime naughty tentacles, you know.
AKA. They were imperialists with acapital I man. They the emperor was

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God and they were going to stretchtheir hand across the world and be in
charge, you know. And that'sthe attitude they had when they went into
World War two. And so Ithink he spent what Louis Amperini spent two
years in captivity before before the waractually ended, I think was when he
finally got out. But the coolthing. The thing I like about this

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one is another thing that is spokenof often in a capture situation is the
you gotta insulate, not ice.You got to when you're with other people,
you got to help each other out, you know. I feel like
they did a good job of thatin the movie. There's a lot of
great there's a great cast of otherofficers, other people that were captured along

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with him, and uh, they'reall grimy and grungy and just like dirty
all the time, but they stillare They're still have a network like everybody
knows whoever each other is. Theyhelp each other out, they insulate each
other, they lift each other upand try to encourage one another. And
yeah, that was like, thatwas something that was very touching in the

(27:38):
film. You know too, whenthey're going through this stuff and they're still
they're still being human to each otherand they're not like it it's not like
every man for himself. Yeah,dude, there's so many moments in that
movie where you think he's gonna geta break then Yeah, yeah, yeah,
like the bird, the uh,the the guy that's in charge of

(28:00):
the camp that everybody hates. Yes, he's like, why do you make
me do this to you? Whyare they call him the bird? That's
what he's known now, Yeah,the bird? And like he gets reassigned
and everyone's like great, and thenLouie gets shifted to another camp and guess
who's in charge of that one?Yeah that part where when he gets to
the second camp and he's they're alllined up, they're like, get ready

(28:22):
for your commander to come out,and they all like write attention and Louis
like looks up and sees it's thebird coming down and he like faints a
little bit and the guy has tolike no, yeah, oh man,
because there's that one part in thefirst camp where I don't even know what
he did. Like the bird justhad it in for him, Like he
would just focus all of his aggressionon Louis Zamporini because he's an Olympic because

(28:47):
he was an Olympic athlete, that'sright, he was a that's right.
Yeah, So like he had atarget on his back because when they heard
they had an Olympic athlete, theymade him race. Yes, but he's
all now nourished and yeah, likecaptivity for months and he just gets and
he's like, you think you're betterthan me? Yeah, he has all
the dudes. It was at thebar where he has all the dudes the

(29:07):
other POW's I want everybody here topunch him in the face. And he
just has to stand there and getpunched in the face. There's like a
hundred guys lined up to punch himin the face and like, oh man,
yeah, and it's not like itwasn't like a soft tap, Like
they had to actually hit him inthe face. Yeah, yeah, otherwise
they'd get punished. Yeah, yeah, everybody would get punished. Man.
That movie. You know, Icould talk about that movie for a long

(29:30):
time, but there are no noyou say you do you give me two
or three more things you love aboutthis movie because I love this movie too.
Man. It'll bring a tearny reye. Oh it will make a
full grown man cry. Yeah.First of all, the like this movie.
It's called unbroken. It could alsobe called resilience. Like it literally

(29:52):
like, if you think your lifesucks, you know, watch this movie
and realize how much of a bitchyou all I can't. I don't know,
man, it's just such in inspiring, like Louis Zamprini's story, like
how you know he was he comesfrom an Italian you know family in a

(30:14):
time when like you know, youknow, racism wasn't just towards African Americans.
Oh man, the Italians when theyfirst immigrated to the to the States.
Yeah, you know, you hadWorld War two where they were an
enemy and now they're all coming overto the States, Like, dude,
like that was bad. And thenthe Irish, the Irish coming over,
Oh, they were they were justdestroyed when they got off the boat.

(30:37):
Everybody got everybody got a little bitof it, everybody. Yeah, so,
you know, he had to dealwith racism growing up. He you
know, got into running, became, you know, broke broke records,
high school records, went on torace in the Olympics, didn't win,
but still to be able to makeit to the Olympics is an achievement on
its own. Joining the Air Force, becoming a pilot flying in World War

(31:02):
Two, really surviving forty seven dayson an Erica on a on a raft,
keeping everybody alive with minimal rations,yep. Uh. Then get then
surviving in an encampment, two encampments, and then just and then finally getting
out like his dude, like ifyou're if you think your life sucks,
you have no idea what's going on. It's just his story. It's just

(31:23):
absolutely amazing. Like I just it'sresilience one O one, resiliency one O
one. It will make you cry. It's Yeah, it's one of my
favorite stories of all time. Yeah, all right, all right now I'm
satisfied. Now we can move on. That is that answer your question?
Is that at least you Yeah,But there's another military film that has to

(31:45):
do with like escape and evasion thatis fairly new. Wasn't my favorite of
all time, but I think thestory itself is a really good story.
The Covenant twenty twenty three. Yeah, man, yeah, a good lesson,
I would. They are good.The message of the story is worth
telling. You know. It's theyou know, it's the short version is

(32:07):
Jake Jonhall. He's a he's aGreen Beret in Afghanistan working with a new
interpreter who's a you know, kindof a bit of an upstart. He's
a bit of a strong willed kindof guy. And they end up creating
this friendship and then Jake Jonhall's Odiahis team gets totally wiped out and he

(32:30):
gets injured in the process, buthis interpreter ends up putting him on a
cart and taking him out of there, and he's like for like a one
hundred days or something like that,ninety days it takes him to get back
to an American base and he saveshim, and then they get separated and
Jake Jonhall goes back to the Statesand then the rest of the movie is

(32:51):
him trying to get this guy outof the country. And the basic thrust
is is, you know, guyRitchie he heard about or he saw documentary
about the relationships that a lot ofsoldiers had with their interpreters, the people
they worked with in Afghanistan, becausewe were there for twenty years, twenty
plus years, yeah, man,and yeah, yeah, and and so

(33:12):
it's about that. It's like wemade cup we made a covenant with these
guys. We made an agreement withthese guys that uh that we are good,
that they you know, a lotof them had promises for visas and
and you know all that kind ofstuff, and we just left we just
left him there, you know,yeah, and uh Tonant Yeah. Yeah,

(33:34):
so the yeah, like you said, the movie, the movie has
its problems, you know, andit was actually a bomb. It actually
did not make any money unfortunately,which is too bad because for the message
and what it is. Yeah,it's I really appreciated the effort that they
went through, the guy Richie andevery what he went through. But all
that to say, the big partof it when as it connects up to
see her is going to be thepart where they're evading basically after their team,

(34:00):
after Jake Joenhole's team gets wiped out. They're evading, then he gets
injured, and then Dar Salem actuallyis the actor's name he plays on med
uh he and then them kind ofgoing through the countryside uh and and evading
people. The cool thing about that, how that spin on the whole evasion,
escape and invasion part is one he'sgot his butt, He's got somebody

(34:23):
with him who's injured, you know, Jake Jon Hall. At one point
he hides him. He's in atruck and he hides him. He covers
him up with a bunch of rugs, and then he gets stopped by uh
yeah Talban and they're like sitting inthe truck on the back on top of
Jake joll Yeah, and then,uh, the cool thing about is that

(34:45):
he knows he knows the country obviously, he's been there, yeah, or
he lives there. He's a local, and so he meets with other locals
and he's able to barter with themand trade, and he knows which way
to go, which way the Talibanare less likely to be and uh,
and so he really uses his skillof the culture, which is something that's

(35:07):
often talked about in special forces,knowing the culture and building rapport and all
kind of stuff. But that's heuses that to great effect obviously because he's
from there, because he knows theculture, and that's how he's able to
bring Jake, Joe and haall throughwith with this guy like a head injuries,
unconscious most of the time. Yeah, give him some opium at one

(35:27):
point, Yeah, to kind ofknock him out a little bit. Yeah,
used it as a pain killer.But yeah, the message. You
know, there's some advising things inthe movie that I wasn't so keen on
or in the costume department, whichyou know, as an elitist veteran that
you know, seems to be myidentity and I can't just enjoy I can't
just enjoy movies. Yeah, alot in life like regular people. But

(35:49):
yeah, the message, like yousaid, was awesome. I enjoy seeing
the relationship, like because everybody thinks, like you know, typical American military,
we go somewhere and we just destroyeverything, right, we don't care
about anybody who's there. But it'sthe farthest thing from the truth. Right.
You form these relationships with the peopleyou're working with and you're trying to
help them, you know, liberatetheir city because they're going, you know,

(36:12):
it's their home. They're more impactedthan we are because we're foreigners.
We're from a distant land and wedon't have to worry about you know,
what's going on there happening where weare. So you know, it's it's
the bonds that get created, areare you know, second to none other
than you know, compared to thebonds you make with the guys you're fighting
with. I would argue to say, like the bonds with the bonds made

(36:35):
with some interpreters and US forces arethe same, you know that I made
to guys in my tea, inmy own team. Yeah, so yeah,
you would do anything for those dudes, So why wouldn't you do it
for you know, the guys thatare unfairly left there during a very terrible
time. But yeah, Covenant wasa great example of that escape in evasion

(36:57):
you know, directly correlates to see. Yeah, the tactics, even though
I don't think he went through seerschool, you know, the interpreter did,
but he did a damn good jobof just knowing the land and no
knowing when when to hit the gasand when to kind of use his brain
instead of just you know, bruteforce. So this movie is about survival

(37:19):
and this was also based off ofa true story that I was. This
one actually made me cry at theend. It made me ball at the
end. Have you ever seen TheWay Back? Never heard of it?
Oh? Here we go? Maybethat? Yeah finally, Okay, so
this one actually has a killer cast. In surprise, you haven't heard of
it, but it came out intwenty ten. It's called The Way Back

(37:43):
and it features Ed Harris, I'mlooking at Colin farrell Sorceronan Okay, cool,
Jim Surgeon. Yeah, yeah,so it has it has some big
names in there, and it's essentiallybased off of a true true events and
there were during World War Two orduring the German occupation, you know,

(38:04):
stalin times of Russia, like everybodywas imprisoned that you know, went against
communition essentially. So they had thisPolish guy who was arrested and put in
this internment camp and it was inSerbia. And in the beginning of the
movie, they're like, these thesefences, this barbed wire is not your
jailer. The Serbian wilderness is.This is what will keep you here because

(38:29):
you will die if you try torun. He's like, the nature will
kill you. And he's like,and if the nature doesn't kill you,
the locals will because there is youknow, bounties on all escaped fugitives,
so everybody's gonna get you. Soanyways, this this Polish guy just you
know, he's a little bit ofan outdoorsman, and he gets a group
of guys together and makes it escapeand they escape from the camp and they

(38:52):
end up they end up walking overfour thousand miles from Serbia to India.
They walk. What It's incredible.And they start out with story based off
true events. Okay, so basedoff true events, but three men ended

(39:14):
up making it four thousand mile journeyto India and pretty much it just shows
the trows and tribulations of like youwant to talk about like unbroken, like
that's the will to survive. Likethere were so many moments in this movie
that you're like, there's no waythese guys are gonna make it, Like
they are starved, and this isback in like the forties where you don't

(39:34):
have any technology, Like he's usingyou know what he knows. He uses
like the sun dial method with likethe pine cones and the stick to do
shadow to show the where his asthmuthis and like, oh, it's just
amazing movie. And at the veryend they finally make it, and like
the makeup is amazing because like hiseyes are just sunken in. He looks

(39:58):
like absolute Like he looks like aguy that just walked four thousand miles.
It took him years, Like itprobably took them a year to do this
of just walking. They never hada they never had a vehicle, they
never had anything. They walked theentire way. And at the end,
Oh, it made me, itmade me absolute tear because in the beginning
his wife is tortured and that's whatgives. That's what puts him in prison

(40:22):
because they torture his wife into basicallysaying that like he is a spy,
and he gets arrested. So thenhe like throughout the movie, he like
he goes crazy because there's multiple timeshe almost dies from starvation or just you
know, from exhaustion, and healways envisions like his house in front of
him, like he's going home.And at the end, he finally goes

(40:42):
home and he's like thirty years olderand he like hugs his wife and they're
all old and dude, it's aphenomenal movie. But my favorite character is
definitely Colin Farrell's character. He playsa Russian, like a professional Russian criminal,

(41:08):
and it's just he's just an absoluteanimal. You should check out the
movie. It's great. I thinkit's it's free on Pluto or it's if
you have like a Visio TV,like a smart TV. It's free.
Okay, Oh, it's a greatmovie, dude. You know what's funny,
Man, I'm looking at the director, man Peter Weir. He directed
Dead Poet, Society, Truman,show Master, Commander of the Far Side

(41:30):
of the World, and like hedidn't he didn't direct anything until this movie
in twenty ten, like two thousandand three was Master and Commander, and
then nothing on his IMDb except forlike some short film collections until the way
back in twenty ten, and thenhe hasn't directed anything since. I don't
think he probably broke him like prettywild man. Maybe he's got other stuff

(41:52):
going on, But that's pretty cool, man. I appreciate that. That's
just that you don't understand it.It's sometimes it just doesn't impact you.
The the strength of the human spirit, you know, the will to survive,
and until you hear true stories aboutyou know, true instance of people
surviving, just stuff that you're likemost people be like, oh yeah,

(42:14):
i'd be done. I never Inever survived. But then something inside you
call it calls to you, somethingdeep call. You're like, yeah,
I survive every Yeah, I don'tcare who you are. You're capable of
so much more. Yep, yeah, totally, Like that's why you got
to keep doing hard stuff. Yeah, Like you gotta do hard stuff to
prove to yourself like, hey Iam unbreakable. I am Yeah you are,

(42:37):
so you're capable of so much morethan you think you are. Let
me tell you. But yeah,this this movie The Way Back Is is
a great example of like what thewhat humans can endure. There's specifically one
scene where like when they first escape, they're making their way to a lake,
and this is like a large geoglike a large geographical kind of way

(43:00):
point in their mind because they know, like, if we get to this
lake and we go to the southend, we're going to hit this train
track and then we're gonna keep thatsouth. So basically they start in Serbia
until they hit Mongolia, and theywalk all the way through Mongolia into China,
and then they walk into China tothe Tibetan Peninsula until they hit until
they hit the Himalayan Mountains, andthen they walk over the Himalayan Mountains,

(43:22):
Oh my god, into India towhere their final journey is that four thousand
miles and like they cross over theGreat Wall of China and it's all on
foot, which just sticks, youknow, it's absolutely crazy. But there's
like a point where they're looking forthe lake in the beginning and they're like
how long is it to the lake? And the main guy in charge is

(43:42):
he's like two to three weeks.I just heard that and I was like,
could you imagine just walking for threeweeks straight to know that you're like
not even close. Wow. Solike there's a point where they're like stopped
and they're literally fighting wolves for halfeaten deer and they're like eating the deer

(44:04):
raw after they're like scaring the wolvesaway because like they're in full survival mode.
Just guys are getting picked off leftand right from the from the nature
and the weather, and like theguy in charge is like, you gotta
stay here. I'm gonna go seeif I can find the lake. And
he basically goes off on his ownfor three days in the Serbian winter,
like surviving rain, just on allhands and knees, just like crawling up

(44:27):
this hill and he finally makes itback like barely, and he's like the
week is three days March and thenhe collapses and they like they kind of
bring him back to health by likebecause he's freezing cold, and they like
heat up rocks to warm him andgive him some food and like, oh,
it's incredible. The movie is incredible. Dang man, Okay. Inspired
by the memoir of Slavo mirror rockrock Rowitz, Vavitz Ravits depicts from schoolag

(44:54):
Yeah and subsequent four thousand mile Walkto Freedom in India. G was golly.
I just it just blows my mind, man, Like, yeah,
it just blows my mind, dude. Yeah, oh yeah. It's an
incredible movie. You should if youhaven't seen it, definitely check it out.
Good cast, great directing. Andyeah, that ending just and I

(45:15):
usually don't cry at ending, youknow, I'm a pretty tough guy,
but like right when he opens thedoor, like I don't, it felt
like I got punched in the stomach. Like, dude, it hits so
hard. It's good. Many yougot a heart, man, you got
a heart? Yeah? Yeah,yeah, I had empty claws its way

(45:35):
out sometimes. Well, man,that's good. Examples of survival, evasion,
resistance, and escape. We havea fan question and then we can
jump into our uh I jump intoour game, and which will be a
hard one for you, I think, yeah, before we do. Before
we do, folks, I justwant to make mention if you like all
of this content, if you likewhat Cameron and I are about, we

(45:57):
got tons of more stuff on ourpop Culture Field Manual podcast YouTube. Please
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(46:20):
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YouTube. That's my channel where Iplay through some of the scariest games and

(46:45):
it's a good time. We gotsome skits in there, we make fun
of them and we have a goodtime. So anyway, onto our fan
question. This is from Fonsi FonziVerada, good dude, former military guy.
He's on the He's on our mytwitch channel quite often. It's on
our Patreon two and that's right,Fonzarellies. He asks, just saw the

(47:07):
millsim West twenty twenty two video?You guys can check that out on the
pop Culture Field Manual podcast YouTube aswell. We did a Millsim West event
back in twenty twenty two. Cameron'sactually done one since then, but this
one was just released from this onefrom last year or two years ago actually,
and it was awesome. Would youguys be willing to do a video
on what kit you were using forthe event, from your rock to your

(47:30):
rifle? I want to go toan event here in the East Coast and
read that the tack ops and Ifelt like I was overthinking for my own
military experiences and don't have any airsoftexperience. Looking forward to the next MILSIM
video you guys do, should youchoose to do a much love you guys.
Side note, It's a poncho liner, not a whoopee what. First
of all that I read that,and you know, I love you,

(47:52):
Fonsie, and this is why Ifeel like I can say this to you.
Fuck you man. It's called awoo be okay, I pod show
liner on paper, but it iscalled a woodie And I don't know how
can do it in the Navy.But yeah, yeah, I mean you
got maybe you guys a little more, Maybe you guys a little more squared,
you know, like left right,left in the navy. You know,

(48:12):
yeah, use slang. Yeah,you guys don't have slang? Yeah,
but whatever, No, Yeah,I uh you know, as milsomb
West goes. I think you knowthat was Easy's first game, if I'm
correct, Ye, it was myfirst time doing that. Yeah. I've
done a couple of them, andI actually everyone I've done, I've been
one of the cadre for it.So yeah, I actually made a video
for my last one of like whatI pack. But I I can do

(48:35):
that and I'll throw it up foryou on the Patreon. But I think
you're over You're definitely overthinking it.Yeah, man, yeah, totally.
Like it's three days. Just bringfood and stuff to shoot and like something
to be comfortable in. Yeah,yeah, yeah, if you want to,
I would say, like, forme, just because I'm I'm a
softie, I wore like long underwearunderneath or some extra padding because you're gonna

(48:59):
get with the bbies and they cansting a little bit. Don't worry.
You wear some extra petting. You'llstill feel it, it just won't sting
as much because those things hurt.Man. Oh my god, you're such
a baby. I got shot inthe face one time so hard, like
it was not cool. I tooklike a full burst and I don't wear
I just wear glasses. I don'twear any face protectors. But I took

(49:20):
a full, like six round burstto the face from like ten feet away
and I literally had to pop aBB out of my skin because it hurts
so bad. I was actually escapingand evading because we did this seer,
we did this hit like getting anHBT, and like it just went to
shit and everybody started escaping and likeI'm running through buildings and all of a

(49:42):
sudden, I turned this corner andit's at night time, so I'm running
under nods and I guess they calledlike their QRF who are the quote unquote
Russians, And they came in thearea that I didn't know that they were
coming from, and I turned acorner and I just see this flashlight turn
on and just immediate pain in myface and like hit the ground and saw
it. But I have a pictureof that. It literally my entire set

(50:02):
of the face like blew up.Oh my god. But yeah, I
think you're over you're overthinking it,Fonsie. But I yeah, I'll post
a video of what I typically bring. But yeah, if you just follow
the taxop and like kind of justuse your own military experience of what you
like to bring out to the fieldto make things more comfortable, because it
also depends on, like, youknow, where the venue is. Like,

(50:22):
some venues you walk a lot,so you want to be more comfortable.
Some venues your static more often,so you want to bring more warm
clothes. Some venues rain a lot, some venues don't. So it really
depends where you're going and what you'redoing. But yeah, yeah, I'll
make a video for you and postit sometime in the future. Stuff man,
good stuff, all right. Timefor the game team, And this

(50:44):
game is beginning to be run byme, and this game is for Cameron,
and I'm very glad about that becausethis game is going to be hard.
Yeah, I know, we gotto. I got a text from
Chris saying games are in Seer.Game is really hard, but I think
you'll have a good time. Sosee, let's find out, Chris if
you are. Because this game's alittle different. It's called how Good is

(51:06):
Your Memory. Part of the coreof survival training for soldiers is to know
the code of the United States FightingForce, which is consists of six articles.
What are those six articles? Feelfree to paraphrase anyway? Is this
a question? This is the question. I've got six different articles here,

(51:28):
and you can tell me, ifyou can, what those six are.
I remember looking at these things.I remember this, but it's been literally
decades since I've had to call eastto mind. Let me just get by
article. Is this like AR sixseventy dash one? Is that like an
article and different? Six different?Like it's like the Ranger creed. It's

(51:50):
like six different paragraphs about what itmeans to be the army, like a
United States soldier? Oh my god, is this a soldier's creed? No?
Well, is it the soldier CERs? Okay, I'm an American soldier.
Yeah, I'm an American fighting inthe forces which guard my I'm gonna
give you the first one. I'man American fighting in the forces which guard
my country, in our way oflife. I'm prepared to get my life
for their defense. I've never heardof this before. Really, I've heard

(52:15):
of this. But uh, maybewe can, like, maybe we can
turn it instead of turning into agame, maybe can turn into like a
learning experience. You know, well, I'd love to learn this first one
because like, I've never heard ofarticles of blah blah blah that must be
old. I feel like it mustbe kind of uh older doctrine because I'm

(52:36):
like I said, uh, it'sbeen a long time since even I have
thought of this. Here what I'llsend it to you real quick, man.
I just shared it with you inthe dock. You can look in
on it for yourself. And Iremember this stuff. It's just like,
I don't think it's the Ranger.I don't think it's like the soldier's creed
or something like that. I thinkit's like a general. I feel like

(52:57):
everybody has a creed these days.Soldiers have a created green rays of a
greed Ranger. I think the Ranger. I feel like the Ranger creed is
like the OG creed. Yeah,I know the er, the actual creed,
but Unite Code of the United StatesFighting Force. I've never seen this
before. I've never heard of thisbefore. Yeah. So the second one

(53:20):
is I will never surrender of myown free will if in command, I
will never surrender the members of mycommand while they still have the means to
resist. I remember this. Thisis sounding familiar. I just can't remember.
I think it was like basic training. Was the last time I actually
was exposed to this soldiers? Isit it's like code of conduct or something
like that. This seems like itis great code of conduct. Yeah,

(53:44):
the United Yeah, code of conduct. I'm an American. Yeah, that's
what it is. AR three fiftydash thirty covers code of conduct to all
members of the US Armed Forces.Oh really interesting? Oh wow? But
yeah, okay, well yeah,let's go three six of them and let's
learn something because yeah, I've neverheard of this. It seems like,

(54:04):
I mean, just quickly glancing overthem, it looks like this has to
do if you're like that. Youneed to know this if you're like captured
right right, like these are thelike this looks like it's the rules of
like being a pow. Yeah.Maybe maybe I've maybe I was exposed to
this in seriously and I just forgotbecause I don't this, Like I said,
I've seen this before. I justcan't can't place where I've seen it.

(54:25):
I mean obviously in the army,but yeah, the last time I
saw it. Yeah, okay,let's go number one. I'm an American
fighting in the forces which guard mycountry in our way of life. I'm
prepared to give my life in theirdefense. Okay, pretty straightforward. You
know you can die and you shouldbe willing to if you, you know,
are in that situation. Mm hmm. No cowards alive. No,

(54:47):
uh, no, cowards allowed.It's cowards allowed. General. This is
even more general than like soldier likesyou know us. It leads sorry,
no leadership, loyal to duty,respect, self as service, honor,
integers. Yeah, I will neversurrender of my own free will. If
in command, I will never surrenderthe members of my command while they still

(55:08):
have the means to resist. Likewhen do you stop? When do you
give up? Or when do youstop? You don't you that? That's
kind of crazy because like thinking backto uh, you know, the Siege
of Yachattville that movie, Like obviouslythey were irish, but uh that didn't
follow number two. Yeah, helike surrendered, So this says you will

(55:30):
die. Well, it says Iwill never surrender the members of my command
while they still have the means toresistance. I will never surrender of my
own free will. That's mean,while I will if I get injured or
I don't have the means to fightanymore. That is acceptable to like I
see it. Okay, Well,Siege of Jadeville. They ran out of
AMMO. Yeah, like they don'thave the means to resist anymore. Yeah,

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so like, okay, that makessense, all right. Number three.
If I am captured, I willcontinue to resist by all means available.
I will make every effort to escape, to aid others to escape.
I will never accept neither parole norspecial favors from the enemy. Yeah.
That's like yeah, like Unbroken andthen Rescue Dawn. They both get opportunities

(56:14):
to get special favors and receive lessharsh treatment, but they both refuse eat
shit. Yeah, that's good.I like that one. You want to
read. Number four? Yeah,Number four is if I become a prisoner
of war, I will keep faithwith my fellow prisoners. I will give
no information nor take part in anyaction which might be harmful to my comrades.
If I'm senior, I will takecommand. If not, I will

(56:37):
obey the lawful orders of those appointedover me and will back them up in
every way. That's like, that'slike Unbroken as well. They have they
keep their command structure, yeah,which is super interesting. Yeah. Yeah,
like the officers are like separated withthe enlisted in like a pow setting.
That's super interesting that, like theystill keep the military rank structure.
Yeah, the expect them to actaccordingly. Yeah, and that was Yeah,

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that's something that has definitely emphasized andit's a way to keep things organized
and to keep people feeling like they'restill a part of something and they're to
not give up, to not feellike they're alone, you know. Yeah,
ooh, here's a good one.This is what we were talking about
with Rescue Down. When questioned shouldI become a prisoner of war, I'm
required to give name, rank,service number, and date of birth.

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I will evade answering further questions tothe utmost of my ability. I will
make no oral or written statements disloyalto my country and its allies, or
harmful to their cause. So yeah, they want you to sign anything or
in Unbroken they wanted him to doa radio broadcast to say certain things,

(57:43):
and they even had him in thecafeteria and he looks over he's like,
you could be like those guys,and they were American servicemen in their uniforms
eating good stuff. Like those guysdid the radio broadcast. Why do you
want to do it, you know, And he's like, because these things
aren't true. These things are sayingthat America is bad. Yeah yeah,
yeah, all right, last one, go ahead and read it. I
will never forget that I'm an Americanfighting for freedom, responsible for my actions

(58:06):
and dedicated to the principles which mademy country free. I will trust in
my God and in the United Statesof America. Nice. Yeah, that's
that idea. Cool? Yeah,yeah, this is the hell was this
when I was in Huh? Thisis general I guess this is just general
code of conduct. It says ARthree fifty dash thirty. I can't remember

(58:27):
the exact Uh, I don't rememberthat, but yeah, I remember this
kind of stuff. So it's codeof conduct and it's under the Seer regulation.
So what you do if you're ifyou're captured, this is the rules
you will live by. Yeah,that makes sense. That's probably why I
never learned it, because I neverdid any seer in the military. Yeah,
thanks Chris, thanks for asking.Thanks Chris for this educational game that

(58:52):
turned into just uh, just ajust a wrap session, just talking about
the code of conduct. Yeah.Well it's perfect timing because my background light
just went out, so that mustmisteen. That must mean it's time to
wrap up the episode. Perfect timing. Well, folks, thank you so
much for joining us on this episodeof the pop Culture Field Manual podcast.
We hope you enjoyed and maybe learneda little something about what it takes to

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