We Need Closure

We’ve all experienced a movie, tv show, video game or book that when we reach the end we sit back and think….IS THAT ALL?! ARE YOU FRIGGIN’ KIDDING ME?!?!?! Unsatisfying endings or endings with cliffhangers that never get resolved can stay with us for, well… long enough for one to feel the need to make a podcast episode about. So Izzy and Cam are here to lament over some of their not so favorite endings in pop culture.

A near immaculate game of "All the Closure You Can Handle" caps off this sometimes bitter episode. It's deservedly bitter! Don't give us that look!

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Episode Transcript

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In town in time, there's agun to make it through. So tell
me about the automatons. We thoughtwe had them, Cameron, I was,

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I was on holiday block leave,taking a trip to super Earth.
Tell me filled me in what happened. I mean, we thought we wiped
him out. Man, We wehad him on the run. Operation Swift
Disassembly was was it go? Wewe got it all taken care of him.
There was a moment of peace,a moment a breath of fresh air
within the universe for freedom and democracy. But then they came back with a

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vengeance. Man. They counterattacked andthey blogged there's like three sections, three
blocks of the universe. They're allsecond off now, and we got to
get it back. We only gotlike as of the as of this recording,
it's not looking too good because theyseemed I don't know if maybe I've
just like lost some skill in thepast like day or two since I played.
But they are better shots. Theyseem to explode more aggressively when you

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kill them, which which means killingyou in the process. And those fire
tornadoes, man, there's like certainplanets have different planetary conditions and those fire
tornadoes are not fun. I wasnot having a very good day today.
That's terrible to hear. I'm sorry, I totally missed the invasion. I
feel like I'm not I'm not adodger. I'm not a democracy dodger.

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Nowhere. You better get back onthat ship, man I have. If
I can start diving asap and bringbecome an asset, that's right, that's
right. But yeah, that's crazy. You know what, I appreciate it,
You know what, I appreciate it. I appreciate Yeah, I do
appreciate once a day. But uh, I really appreciate the fact that,

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like the game is ongoing and it'sit's like a joint effort. It's not
just that is the storyline. I'venever seen a game like that, have
you? Is there any games now? I feel like Destiny is the only
one that comes to mind in whichthere are events that never happen again,
and if you are a part ofthat event, then you can talk about
it, you can kind of sharethat experience with other people that were part

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of it, and then it goesaway and then you're onto the next thing.
So I think that's part of themagic of Hill Divers too, is
that there's an evolving storyline and thingsebb and flow, and if you're a
part of it at certain points,then you can be like, yeah,
I was, I was at maleveland Creek when it fell, or I
was at malevelin Creek when we liberatedit, and I'm sure it'll fall again,

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you know. So hopefully more peoplehave really seemed to have taken to
this game in such a way thatthey're making memes about it, they're making
videos about it, you know,like our little you know, stolen Valor
video that we made. Like that'sjust kind of it captures the imagination and
it lends itself to fun, creativekind of things. It's kind of it's
fun. It's cool to be apart of. Yeah, it is,

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man, it makes you feel Itdoesn't make you feel empty like some of
these TV shows, some movies we'reabout to talk about, good segue,
that's right. That is we don'tneed to ask for closure. And that's
exactly what this episode is about.Today. We're gonna talk about some movies

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and TV shows that just we couldn'tget over, you know, right,
the type of TV show movie youjust want to invite to coffee two months
later and be like I just needI just need to talk about this closure.
I need we need to I justgot I have something in my soul.
Just can't rest until we have alittle bit, until we have a
talk about what happened between us.You know, yeah, exactly. So.

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I know you've assembled an amazing listhere. I've tried to add,
but you've hit a lot of thesepoints on the head. There's a lot
of pop culture out there that hasdone you know, that has had a
terrible, terrible ending, or justdidn't really do it for you right,
no ending at all. Sometimes projects, movies, especially television shows and video
games, they will have an intentionand then for whatever reason, business reasons,

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money reasons, creativity reasons, theywon't finish the thread. They won't
finish the storyline, and you're justleft hanging all the fans of whatever.
And shows, I feel like showsare notoriously difficult to end, especially popular
shows. The most recent example wouldbe something like Game of Thrones, right
where it was this international box officeor international success. Everybody was talking about

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it, everybody was wondering what thenext episode was gonna hold, who was
gonna die, who was gonna live? And then that last season man boy,
that is a case study and howto fumble at the five yard lit
Yeah, yeah, yeah, thatis prime example. Man. So do
you know, I know we've talkedabout Game of Thrones in the past,

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but like, okay, so theguy I was under the impression, like
obviously the guy that wrote it itended up getting cancer and died. But
that was far from the actual case. Right, Wait are we talking when
we're talking about Game of Thrones ora Wheel of Time? Oh, we
were talking about Game of Thrones,right, Game of Thrones. No,
Game of Thrones. Georgia R.Martin is still alive. It's yeah,
exactly, probably never going to finishthe series because I don't know, he's

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getting old, he's he's got allthe money in the world now, he's
doing other projects. He doesn't careabout Game of Thrones. They already finished
the TV show, you know.Yeah. No, That's what I'm saying
is like I thought because I heardabout it, and they're like, oh,
there's no book like the final season. There's actually no book that they're
going off of. There's no actuallywritten anything. And I'm like, oh,
it's because the author must have diedor something tragic happened to him,

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and then I've come to find outhe's just super lazy, you know,
ultimate disrespect. Yeah. Yeah,I've told the story about I had a
friend that was that would do somepersonal assistant work for him, like go
to his house at an undisclosed locationin New Mexico and do whatever. And
I think somebody asked her one time, like his he, do you ever

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see him writing? She's like,he's never writing. I never see him
writing, And she's there like allthe time. He's not either, He's
either off doing stuff and and Idon't know. I guess partly I can
understand when you're getting old and you'veyou've had so many accomplishments in life,
and you're you're getting up there inage, you're not gonna live forever,
you kind of start thinking about whatwhat do I want to do, you
know, in my life? AndI've got all this money, I got

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all that sweet sweet Game of Thronescash, even just gonna go travel the
world and write other series and writeother projects or whatever, I don't know,
or just pick up woodworking expensive hobbythere. Yeah, I do you
do have an obligation to I thinkhe does have an obligation to finish it
when we're talking, if we're talkingabout Game of Throne, Georgia, Muda

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has an obligation to the fans andto I don't know if the publishers are
on him about it or if hehas some sort of open ended deal,
but and I and I think hehas an opportunity, a moral opportunity because
season eight was a massive, massivefailure in my opinion, it was it
was. It was so bad howthey ended it, and he he could

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like redeem it, he could endit differently the way that it's supposed to
be. He has a template onwhat not to do, and obviously he
had to give them the major plotpoints so that they could run off and
do their own thing. So George, come on, man, Yeah kill
the wheelchair as a as a personalfavorite to me, Yeah, get on

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with it, man, yep,just kill the kid in the wheelchair.
That's what That's what you have todo. You have to do it,
you have to do it. II'm sorry. I saw a video on
somebody trying to fix it like thisis how I would have done it.
And they did a really good job. They changed the story slightly, They
had things going in a slightly differentdirection. They had John Snow be kind

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of the hero that that we kindof wanted him to be and Denari's so
they took a longer, longer timefor Denaris Targarian to fall into that darkness
because she was always it's always meantto be a cautionary tale of the savior
figure, like we're putting our trustin people, looking to them to save
us, and then she has thisturn, but she doesn't have it on

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a dime like they did it inthe show where all of a sudden she's
just evil and blasted people with fire, and uh, yeah, they don't
have the they don't have the thecripple boy become king at the end,
so well that's good. Yeah,he's just becomes He just stays there,
stays in that bundle of sticks,whatever it is, hole in the ground.

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He just stays there. But uhyeah, that wasn't even on our
list. But great way to startit off. You guys all got the
idea. So let's talk about onethat ended in such a way that I
can't believe that there hasn't been anytype of talk about a sequel or just

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you know, have you heard anythingabout a District ten or a District nine
sequel. No Man, No DistrictNine was one of those movies where it
had such good ideas in it.It was the lower budget, shaky cam
kind of thing, and I don'tknow if if it was it maybe it
was a like a love letter ornot. What is a love letter,

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but a like an audition for thisguy. He wanted to make the Halo
movie, and he did make likea Halo live action short film. If
you've never seen it, go onlineand watch it. It's really good.
It's like a live before the showcame out. It was the best thing
we had to Halo type action outthere on the internet. But yeah,

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Man District nine obviously a stand infor some sort of South African apartheid state
love the cool sci fi themes andthe guy gets, you know, he
gets infected with the virus. Hestarts turning into Charto Kobe starts turning into
an alien and they're fighting and thedude is like, I can help you.
His alien buddy's like, I canhelp you if I can get to

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the ship. And then they havea disagreement. He's like he's like,
actually I can't. I have togo back to my planet. But I'll
come back for you. And thenthey have a disagreement. In Vicker's you
know kind of his character, heturns on him, but then he kind
of has a change of heart andhe comes back to save him, and
then he ends up getting kind ofcaptured or he's in that mac suit.
Yeah, and there's just awesome,really fun action and then and then his

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buddy gets on the ship and heflies away, and then then the movie
ends. And then because vand murmurIs is an alien apparently, and that's
it, yep, and he's like, I'll be back for you. I
swear I'll be back. And thenyou just kind of see this well,
you know, it doesn't directly say, but you just kind of see this
alien because he was turning, hewas getting all these alien appendages and like

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his arm would turn into a claw. And then you just see this one
kinda at the end, shifting throughthe dirt and like walking around and you're
like, is that Ham doesn't explicitlysay it, Yeah, but yeah,
he's still an alien. And wehaven't seen or heard or anything about A
District ten because it was a Ithink it was really well done for like

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the style and the costumes and likethe imagination that went into District nine.
It's like truly I like the factthat it's not like the aliens didn't invade,
you know, they were more justlike pests. Yeah, they kind
of got there. They got therelike middle class aliens that like refugees basically,

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Yeah, yeah, they're alien refugees. Like they're not an advanced being.
They were like just a being capableof travel that like escaped their home
planet and uh yeah just ended upon Earth. And it's like what would
this be like if you know,people didn't want them there? And you
know, there was the guys thatobviously were obsessed with like the voodoo magic
that like thought they could like eattheir eat the aliens and gain their powers,

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but they didn't really have any powers. Yeah. I thought it was
a really clever, awesome sci fi. I'm a big fan of the South
African accent brew. Yeah, yes, South African is he Yeah, so
that's pretty cool. It always givesgood sermons because at least it's in the
South African accent. That's that's prettycool. Yeah, he's just afterwards,

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he's like, let's go get themblood diamonds. Show me the direct come
on, you talked, you toldme a sermon about Jesus's love for us.
Now you want to go get bloodDiamonds, come on. Yeah,
trying to screw me over. Butbut yeah, it was a great movie,
and I'm just so upset because Iwould love another one. Yeah,

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yeah, I mean that. There'sobviously Neil bloom Caamp is no stranger to
putting messaging into his movies. Inever saw a Chappie, but he did
Elysium, right, that was tooright, Yeah, and that was like
upper that was like everybody, allthe upper class white and Asian and Middle
Eastern people live in space and allthe Mexicans and Matt Damon live on Earth.

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So you know, and so yougot there's gotta be more stories that
he could tell with District nine,and I would love to. I like
Charlton Kopley. I like that characterthat he played, and maybe I don't
know if it expressly has to beabout him come, you know, getting
cured and coming back. But Idon't know. There's got to be there's
gotta be something they can do withit. But I think I think Neil

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bloom Camp, I think something tellsme he's done with that story that was
that was something that he's up andcoming. He's passionate, right, you
know, they had a thirty milliondollar budget. It made two hundred and
ten million at the box upe that'sa mass success. It put him on
the map. It put him upthere in the upper echelons of directors working.
And so now he's I don't knowif something tells me he's just kind

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of like he just doesn't care anymore. That's lame though, if you like
usually when you get something like that, like the momentum that you get,
you know, especially a movie thatmakes let's see, what would you call
that mark up that's like more thanfive percent if you ask me, yeah,

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yeah, right, at least morethan twelve. Like that movie is
a massive success, you know,almost quadrupling. I don't know what would
be like times eight o chewing thebudget, you know, but uh,
octupling maybe don't know, tupling,we'll go octupling, Yeah, octupling,
the quadrupling, arctupling the budget.Yeah, that's a mass of success.

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Why wouldn't you want more of that? And it opened it and it was
left for that, you know,it was literally a puzzle piece that was
missing and they're like, okay,said like we could totally fill something in,
but it just never happened. Yeah, I wonder. Yeah, that's
that's it. It's a shame,such a shame. District nine was a
great movie. You know what's reallya shame is uh uh he went on

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to do, uh what is it? Chappie and and and full disclosure,
I've not seen Chappie. I justheard it wasn't all that good. Oh
yeah it was. It does haveit does have Hugh Jackman in a mullet
though, which is kind of doesn'tYeah. Oh wait a wait what quick

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Google dated March sixteenth, twenty twentyfour, so about like three weeks ago,
four weeks ago. Yeah, Districtten confirmation and everything we know about
Neil Bloomken's District nine sequel. What'shere we go? I take back everything
I said. I take it back. You know, this entire past ten

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minutes of us just dragging this guycould have been completely solved if we just
took a took a slight Google pauseDistrict right now now, I'm looking to
Reddit. It's like to Neil directorNeil bloom Camp temporarily halts plans for District
nine sequel District ten. This wasseven months ago, though you said that

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they're starting back up again, right, this is as this is on screen
ramped. Okay, all right,okay, summary Disc nine was successful.
Sci Fi released twenty nine. SequelDistrict ten has been just discussed for years,
but concrete news on its development randscars mixed enthusiasm. Oh so this

(16:29):
isn't even it says confirmed. Wow, this is clickbait, clickbait, you
know what, click I take backeverything I took back, and I gave
it back again. Yeah, shame, shame, shap chips, Jim.
Now we can move on after Ispit on you. Yeah, it spits
on you. I spit on yourSo that's just clickbait. That's just conjecture.

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Now click bait. So we takeback everything. I take back everything
that I took back. That's right. So now we're back. Now we're
back fully give it once again.Okay. So, speaking of unsatisfying endings,
I got to jump into the videogame round because this is a legendary
This is a legendary series that hasyet to be ultimately resolved. It's kind

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of a meme. Now us allwaiting for Half Life three, The Half
Live series legendary. I'm so gladthat I've gotten a chance to play it
more recently on my stream. Itwas suggested to me it's kind of one
of those games that a lot ofpeople have grown up playing, especially I
didn't. I didn't have a PCgrowing up. It was all console stuff,
so I didn't catch the Half Lifeseries when it first came out.

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But let's see half Life. Whendid half Life one? Half Life game?
Half Life it's half Life source twothousand and four. Oh yeah,
anyway, No, no, twothousand and Half Life ninety nine, ninety

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eight. That was the first one, okay, and then there's a two
thousand and four, right, Andit always ends on a cliffhanger. The
first one in on a cliffhanger.The second one brought the hero back Gordon
Freeman, and he's with Alex GordonFreeman attention camera. Sorry, but Valves

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one of those companies. I guessmaybe they always want to innovate, they
always want to push things forward,and so a lot of the stuff they
did in Half Life and then HalfLife two was really innovative, and it's
kind of stuff that we take forgranted in terms of maybe combat or physics
in the game or I don't knowthat kind of stuff, But back then

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it was kind of innovative. AndHalf Life two came out in two thousand
and four, and then nothing butsome you know, I guess they got
some DLCs or some little like addon kind of stuff. Half Line one
episode, half Life two episode one, Half Life two episode two, two
thousand and six, two and seven, and then waiting, waiting, waiting
and waiting for Half Live three.All these other things have been kind of

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like little add ons, little kindof even Half Life Alex I think is
more of like a like a inbetween cool kind of thing. It takes
place before the event, in betweenthe events of half Life one and half
Life two, and then butt endsinto half Life two and then kind of
continues the end of half Life twobecause half Life two, you're fighting,

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you're going along, and you Ithink her like Alex's father dies, she's
another character. Her father dies,and then she gets captured. That's the
end of half Life two. Soyou can imagine being a player of that
game in two thousand and four andbeing like, oh my god, what
an epic cliffhanger of an ending.And then nothing new comes out, but

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pretty much ever again. Half LifeAlex was a great game, was VR.
I haven't played about her gets veryhigh March. You play as Alex,
not Gordon Freeman, and more elementsand kind of other kind of aspects
so the story are introduced. There'sg Man, who's kind of this alien
character, inter dimensional being who manipulatesyou and manipulates the events of the game

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against the combine, who are themain antagonists. But I mean, can
you imagine like I feel? Ifeel your pain, folks. I'm so
glad I didn't play him until recently, because then I would have been waiting
literally twenty years plus for Half Livethree to come out. And it's just
kind of a joke at this pointbecause I don't think it'll ever really happen.

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Maybe Valve is waiting to find someway to innovate once again some aspect
of gameplay, and then they'll makethat the Half Life three storyline. But
I don't know, man, Ithink we have We're still We're still going
to be waiting. I think that'sone of the most epic not satisfied with
the ending kind of things, becauseit's not just that they ended the story

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and the story wasn't satisfying. Itwas this. They obviously made it a
cliffhanger, and it's been decades we'veseen anything brand new. Half Life alex
Ish kind of introduced some other elements, but it didn't as far as I
know, it didn't take place afterthe events of Half Life two. It
took place in between the events ofHalf Life one and then a little bit
during two, and then it's kindof like, then it's set it up

(21:15):
for more storyline, but it's that'salmost worse. You just rehash some stuff
in a in the setting that peopleare already familiar with. Then you end
it right around the events of theending of Half Life two, and you
explain some stuff, right you youyou kind of tease some things more mystery,

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and then you end it. Soit's like it's just like reopening an
old wound for all these all theseplayers out there. And I don't know,
I don't know what Valve was thinkingdoing that, but so so sad,
so disappointing. Half Life, whata sad thing that is. It
sounds like you're very passionate about this. I feel like you've been personally robbed.
I feel I feel hurt, Ifeel like I am the avatar for

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the sadness and frustration and angst ofan entire generation of gamers. Okay,
so that's not an easy burden tocarry, Cameron. Okay, yeah,
dude, your your spine must beso messed up, all that weight on
your shoulders. So you get toyou get together. Hey listen, valve
as a personal favorite to me.Hey, get it together? Okay,

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wow o, man put a lotof favors today. Let me ask you
something, Cameron, just in thevein of what we're talking about, why
is it that you think? Why? Why care about stuff like this?
Like you're watching a story and there'ssomething about it that is great, but

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then you see the ending or youexperience the ending, and like the endings
are important? Like what do youthink of? Why do you think this
conversation has any kind of merit foryou? Why do you care? I
feel? So, let's deep dive. I feel. Tell me your feelings.
I feel? What do I feel? Do you feel? Lack?

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We do? Yeah? No?I feel like so in general, when
pop not only pop culture I'm talkingabout like movies, TV shows, their
entire existence is to make us feelright. Otherwise, why the hell would
we watch it like, you know, i'd watch paint dry if that's if

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that was the case of you know, all this stuff lacked emotion or trying
to make me feel a specific way, you know, whether that's scared by
watching a horror movie, whether that'sfeel love watching a romance, whether I
feel like a badass watching an actionmovie, et cetera, et cetera.
Like they create different movies, differentgenres, create different feelings. And when

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you're watching these and it doesn't makeyou feel the way you wanted it to,
I feel like you feel like yougot cheated, feel like you wasted
your time. You actually get upsetbecause you feel robbed. I think that's,
you know, a big thing.I think you get so invested into

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it. Right when you're watching it, you're committing time, which time is
precious, you know, whether that'sthirty minutes for a TV show or three
hours for a movie. You know, and you're giving something up and then
when you're not getting something in return, I feel like that's when it becomes

(24:37):
personal. Nice. Yeah, yeah, there's definitely something there, man,
No, I totally agree. Ithink it's tougher when the movie when the
piece of pop culture video game book, whatever is good and the ending doesn't
satisfy, it can almost ruin theentire experience. Yeah, it can make

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you want a murder like in misery. Yeah. See, yeah, it
don't mess with that's with the bookfans, man, there you go the
book. Yeah, no, it'sit's true, man, there is an
investment there and there's a hope,like you're talking about when you're investing yourself
into story. Maybe if it's evenif you know, a lot of times

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we're fans of these things, fansof video games, fans of sci fi,
fantasy or drama, and there's anexpectation of the kind of journey that
we're going to go on. Andwhen you reach the end and you don't
have that satisfaction, like there's somethingincogrus, there's something that doesn't fit,
there's something that doesn't line up,or there's something that's just not there,
that's absent, and uh yeah,to the level of investment that you had

(25:44):
in watching the story, you're gonnabe more and more disappointed. Yeah,
I think pisses you off. Yeahthat makes sense, man, that's I
mean. But sometimes they like overdoit. I feel like sometimes they want
to give you more when they shouldgive you less in a way, which
that's how I felt with like theHobbit. Everybody knows. Everybody knows I'm

(26:10):
a huge Lord of the Rings fan, and you know, I was thoroughly
disappointed with the Hobbit and continued forall three movies. I thought they'd get
better. I thought they'd you know, do it justice, because the Hobbit
is this is the precursor to theLord of the Rings, right, this
is supposed to be the beginning thebook. There's only you know, there's

(26:33):
only one book. But they decidedto take this one book and split it
into three movies. I don't knowif they were getting greedy. They probably
were, because they didn't want topay all those actors to play ors they'd
rather cgi. That was just abig disappointment, right, I was disappointed
three times over. And that washard to deal with because they like did
good makeup and effects with the Dwarves, meaning they had all these characters in

(26:57):
a full makeup and makeup and likeall crazy kooky, and you know,
they had fat suits galore. Butthen when it came to like, you
know, I think what's made theLord of the Rings trilogy, which was
earlier and probably harder to make.They completely dropped the ball with the practical

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effects and like actually doing dedicating timeto makeup and like putting actors into orc
costume, and like, I thinkthat's what made that series so successful is
just the attention to detail in thepractical FX versus this hobbit that they tried
to go. You know, itdoes not even compete hold weight against Lord
of the Rings, right, andyou know, they tried to cut corners

(27:38):
and but give us more of it, And I think it was a huge
mistake. I felt cheated that way. Like I would rather instead of you
know, getting three movies, Iwould just prefer one really good one.
Yeah, you know, yep,yeah, I mean that was the I
think that's your first problem, rightthere is the original Hobbit is only like
two three hundred pages. It's notlong at all. They added a bunch

(28:02):
of stuff they tried to likely yeah, think a bunch of appendices stuff.
Yeah, they tried to milk it. Yeah, they tried to milk it.
They should have just stuck to thestory and just did it. Put
all their eggs in one basket insteadof you know, trying to spread twelve
Eggs and three. Yeah, thisis I think I sensed new line.
I sense a big company wanting anothertrilogy, and we know that there was.

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This was kind of an embattled seriestoo, because after Peter Jackson's Lord
of the Rings, which was amassive worldwide earth shattering success, uh what
it wasn't Garble de Toro I thinkwas originally going to be a part of
it, and they were going todo it together. But something happened.

(28:47):
I heard that he walked away fora little bit and then came back.
So I don't know the whole story. Maybe there's a YouTube video documentary series
out there that can tell us howwhat actually happened, but you can tell,
yeah, you could tell the wholetime. There's all these like little
side adventures. There's all these charactersthat maybe they aren't even mentioned in the
books, or maybe they got justlike one sentence or two and they're totally

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filled out, and they totally givethem so much more screen time. And
then those of course characters I don'tthink is Legolis even in the Hobbit?
Is he in the Hobbit? Thesecond one? He's in the second Okay,
all right, he definitely looks likehe has a lot of CGI going
on. Well, yeah, he'swhat it's like, what ten fifteen years
later for that actor. Yeah,Leglis Orlando Bloom, Orlando Bloom. Yeah,

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there you go. Well, here'sa great example. Literally headline and
this is according to the Guardian dotCom said Peter Jackson, quote I didn't
know what the hell I was doingwhen I made the Hobbit, and he
says Oscar winning director admits he wasquote unquote winging it and was making up
as I went along for much ofthe Fantasy Trilogy's chaotic shoot. That is,
there's an entire Guardian interview with PeterJackson where he's just like, yep,

(30:02):
I just I didn't know what Iwas doing. Oh man, that
is not a good sign, notPeter Jackson, because yeah, if you
trust anybody to handle the material,well he's proven it with Lord of Wings
trilogy, you would have high expectations. So I find out that he was
just winging it as that doesn't inspireme with confidence. Yeah, I mean,
I mean, here's a good exampleright here, he said in the

(30:25):
remarkably candid behind the scenes featurette fromthe Battle of the Five Armies, the
Oscar winning New Zealander details a radicalshift in preparation time between the previous Tolkien
trilogy, The Lord of the Rings, which had three and a half years
to prepare, and its sequel,Saga. Jackson took over directing duties in
twenty ten following the departure of Mexicandirector Gilmr Del Toro. Kah all right,

(30:47):
yeah, and, according to hiscomments in the new video, had
almost no time to prepare his visionbefore shooting began. He found himself plunged
in twenty one hour days. Sothis was just like, we need to
make this movie. I'm taking overfor we're Giarmo, and uh I guess,
I guess we're doing this. Youknow. I even heard a rumor
that it was supposed to be twomovies originally and they made it into three.

(31:11):
I don't know if that's true,but you know, yeah, that's
too bad, man, It istoo bad because anything that's when you have
something that great, you think you'dwant to like hold that standard. Yeah,
yeah, Like there is so muchfan there. There was a reason
why there's like a Lord of theRings cult, right, It's because that

(31:33):
trilogy is so good and if youput anything on that name cough, cough
rings of power, like you youhave to deliver or you get it all
out uprising. Yeah, like,no one's ever gonna want to touch this
again because you're just like soiling it. But uh, let me and I
want to call out to anybody listeningor watching, if you liked the Hobbit

(31:56):
trilogy, you got to tell uswhy. We're not gonna pudge you.
We're not going to shun you.We love you, we love everybody.
Everybody has their own taste. Butyou know, I just got to know.
I love hearing people's reasons, especiallyin the rom of pop culture,
because I think there's to some extentit's subjective. I think there's objective quality,
yeah, objectively good and bad qualitymovies and pop culture. But sometimes

(32:19):
it's just a matter of opinion.So if you have an opinion and you're
like, the Hobbit is great,you gotta tell you, gotta tell me
why. I'm so curious. Yeah, and I'm ready to tell you why
you're wrong. But moving on,Yes, you gotta a little do a
couple more here. What do yougot? I know you have a couple
on this list. You haven't gotto yet. What do you got easy?
It's hard, man, it's tough. Listen, I'm gonna give a

(32:40):
shout out, just an honorable mentionto all my Star Wars Republic Commando frans.
I played that more recently, Frans, my friend fans, my fan
friends, my friends. I playedthem more recently on stream. I'm glad
I did it. It was asuggestion from the community. It was a
great tactical first person shooter team basedtactics. You have to utilize your Special

(33:02):
Forces. Republic Commando. Clone Troopersis great, so awesome. Intentionally obviously
stops the game stops at the halfwaypoint in the story, right was You're
one of your buddies is cut offand surrounded by bad guys. You want
to go to him, but thenYoda calls you away. It's in the
middle of the Clone Wars and thenbam nothing. That was two thousand and

(33:23):
five. That was almost twenty yearsago. We've had that game. And
so anyway, that's my honorable mentionto Star Wars Republic Commando. It should
They shouldn't have done them like that. They did them dirty, and they
need to fix that. But whatI will say this is something interesting,
because this is not something that Thisis not a movie that I was disappointed
with. This is actually a moviethat I love. Big Tromal, Little

(33:44):
China is one of those movies thatI could watch over and over and over
again and never get tired of.I don't know if you have a movie
like that in your life, whereif you just have it on the background,
you can watch it anytime. Youcould even have it on your phone,
maybe in the seat right next toyou as you're driving. I'm not
saying to do that, but I'msaying, hypothetically, if you're going to
have a movie in your car,Big Trouble, Little China. I love

(34:05):
that movie. And at the endof the movie, if you haven't seen
it, and you should spoilers,he's in his car he saved the day.
He's in his semi track truck rollingdown the road and it kind of
pans to the back and the rainand the storm. Then the a monster
kind of creeps up. It's likeon the back part of the tractor trailer,
like creeping towards him. And that'sthe end of the movie. We
never find out. It's like kindof just like it's not over yet.

(34:29):
Kind of thing I would love tosee. I would love to see a
Big Trouble in Little China, butmaybe if they had had a chance to
make it a couple of years afterthe first one came out, because I
do not want to see any propertiesthat I love be remade or any sequels
today, because the environment in Hollywoodis just not the same storytelling environment as
it used to be. Their prioritiesare much different. You know. Jack

(34:52):
Burton would be I mean it's it'syou know, uh maker or chick and
maker gay kind of thing like theywould do They would do that too,
ur you know, they would dothat to Jack Burton. He would be
emasculated. They'd have a strong femalecharacter that is better at him than everything
that would always put him down.He'd be a And here's the thing in
Big Trouble Little China. He isa bit of a He is kind of
incompetent. He is a bit ofa He's not the sharpest tool in the

(35:15):
shed in the midst of his thecharacters that are surrounding him. But he's
got it where it counts, youknow. And that's what's that's the matter,
is his character uh and and andfreaking uh uh. Jack Burton played
by Kurt Russell. He's he's sogreat, He's got that charm and he
still looks good man. He couldstill I would love to see them do

(35:36):
something in the fantasy Hollywood. Inmy mind, I would like them to
make a sequel to Big Trouble LittleChina. But we all know that it's
just that just can't get made today. There's there'd be too many people up
in arms. There'd be too likecultural appropriation or not handling Chinese culture.
Well, it would never get fundedbecause most of our studios are funded by
Chinese companies. Anyway. Yeah,yeah, this wastional disgrace. When it

(36:00):
came out, you know, Chinawas like take it down. They were
like North Korea when the interview camedown. Yeah, well, actually,
you know I heard if you listento the commentary on the movie, apparently
not many people were totally offended inthe Chinese you know, like it was
it wasn't like the Chinese community wasoffended. It was like other people being

(36:22):
offended on behalf of the Chinese community. Oh yeah, I like, oh,
we didn't care, you know.Yeah, I'm completely joking. That
seems to be the case with anything. You ever see that video of the
kid on the street and he's like, he dresses up, he puts a
fake mustache on. He's a whitekid. He puts this fake mustache on,
a sombrero and a poncho, andhe goes to a college campo and
he's like, does this offend you? And everybody's like yeah. They're like,

(36:44):
are you Mexican? He's like no, and then he goes to like
straight up like Little Mexico and talksall the Mexicans and they're like nice botcho
Ah, Yeah, dude, Yeah, everybody's everybody sucks. Yeah, getting
offended on behalf of the groups iskind of a national pastime these days.
So yeah, it's crazy, butyeah, I do you want to know

(37:04):
a dirty little secret. Oh I'venever seen Big Oh seen this movie?
Tell me that, Cameron. Ohmy gosh. Well here's the thing,
man. I I could tell youto watch it because I am such a
big fan. But I saw itwhen it came out in theaters I was
a little kid. It just blewmy mind with fantasy and stuff. It's
a John Carpenter classic. I thinkit's right up there with the Thing in

(37:28):
terms of his best movies of alltime. And like I said, it's
got everything. It's one of thosethings. It was Rush hour before Rush
Hours was around. It was theblending of Eastern and Western action. It
had kung Fu action in it andit had American you know, bang bang
kind of western action in it.And they did a lot of good stuff
with it. Man. Jack Burton'sa great character. And uh so if

(37:51):
you if you put it on yourlist, you put it low on your
list, man, because I don'tknow if you're going to be affected by
it the same way that I wasbecause I saw I saw when I was
a kid. I mean, hey, I like to watch things, so
I will be watching this one justbecause I got to you. Yeah,
let's do We'll do like one moreeach, I think. But honorable mention.

(38:14):
Since you did an honorable mention,I would like to say, especially
for closure, you know a TVshow that ends almost we're talking to a
TV show that's been on for likealmost two decades now or two decades,
uh, Law and Order SVU SpecialVictims Unit. I just have to shout

(38:34):
it out because I've been I've beenrewatching it all with with Sydney and basically
every episode is a cliffhanger. Youget like zero closure every episode, like
they have this crazy build up characterdevelopment. Uh, you know, obviously
a crazy The SVU, the SpecialVictims Units, is a unit within the

(38:55):
NYPD that deals with sexual crimes toomuch, like rapes and kidnappings and all
that stuff. So you know,there's a lot of emotional attachment to this,
to these characters because they are doingthe job that nobody else wants to
do. Right. If you're workingin homicide, you're just working with you
know, your victims are all dead. But in SVU, you're working with

(39:15):
live victims, you know, peoplethat are there, living and breathing.
So it's pretty hard. But likeall the time they go like they always
finish in the courthouse, and mostof the time it just doesn't go the
way you want or it just ends. Like for example, I'm gonna get
real specific here, season six,episode eight. Just watched it last night
and it's been on my brain becausethere is this big there, big scandal.

(39:42):
You have not your favorite actress fromThe Knight's Tale, what's her name
that plays, oh, Shannon Salzman, Yeah, she's in it. And
not to mention the people that arein If you watch the old SVUS,
so many actors so many in theirbeginning. Yeah, yeah, you're like,
oh my god, there's so andso. In the next episode you're

(40:02):
like, oh my god, there'sso and so. Everybody has been an
s for you. Plus, Idon't understand how this is not turning into
an ONTO prevention, So I mightas well dismiss it off because not to
mention is like you get to seeall these you know, actors before they
got big or you you know.I always in my mind think about like

(40:22):
the eight your agent. Right,imagine you're you're in Hollywood and you're trying
to make it big, or you'rein and you're in New York and you
want to be an actor, andyou got an agent. He gives you
a call and he's like, boyson, I got the role of a
lifetime for you to get you started. He's like, oh, thanks,
Tony or whatever his name is,and he's like, what am I playing.

(40:43):
He's like, Okay, you're gonnareport to You're gonna report the Fox
studios and you are playing a pedophilerapist who has schizophrenia and is a transgender
and you're like, oh man,that's the role of a lifetime. Like
could you imagine you're like, howa lot of these things because they're terrible,
They're terrible roles, and you're justlike, yeah, play that play

(41:04):
anytime you want. I mean,you know, as a performer, man,
you're a performer too. Like foran actor, somebody who really loves
sinking their teeth into a role andsomething that a role that has depth and
stuff. I can see that beingvery appealing for an actor, you know,
not just like how are people goingto see me? Yeah? But
it's like, oh wow, thishas so many layers to it. I
got to understand this and that andthe other thing. So you know,

(41:27):
that's another way to look at it. I like, how specific it?
Yeah, I mean you can getit. But anyways, this episode,
she's a six episode eight, right, and you have that actress and you
have this guy, and she's astudent and he's a college professor, and
I guess they have an appropriate intimaterelationship. And she's known as a little
bit of a Jezebel, right,and then she's also a little bit of

(41:47):
a drunken But then also he's anolder man that tends to date younger chicks
and students. So here's irresponsible.She's irresponsible. You don't know what happens.
They're both covered in bruises and scratches. She's wasted, cries rape.
He's like it was consensual. Shejust likes it rough because she's a you
know, freak, she's a freakazoid. And then it goes you know,

(42:09):
people take both sides, and youknow, he loses all his job,
but then her reputation's tarnessed and itgets to the courthouse, and you know
it, the detectives are flip floppingbecause they're like, she's a liar,
but he's you know, doing this, sending death threats and sending whatever.
And then it gets to the courthouseand the judge is like, how do
you put it? Or she's like, has a jury come to a verdict

(42:30):
and they're like, we have yourhonor, We find the defendant cuts the
credits, like dude, are youkid? After like forty minute forty forty
five minutes of like you'd going backand forth or you and you take a
side in the right in the beginning, you take side right based on your
experience, but like yeah, youand it's emotional because you're like, oh,

(42:52):
dude, I just kept looking atSidney every time she would mess up
because I took the guy's side inthe beginning because I'm just like, she
threw a champagne bottle through a windsbecause she was wasted. And then the
cops came and she was about tobe arrested because the taxi drivers like arrested
woman, Yeah, she's crazy.And then she's like, don't arrest me.
I've been raped. And I wasjust like, oh, she's copping

(43:12):
out. She don't want to goto Jill. And then but then yeah,
it was just, you know,it is super I wish they wouldn't
do that. I wish they'd justbe a normal TV show and like,
just finish a blot. That's funny, man. I was doing a little
research while you were talking. Apparentlythey had a voting thing where they let
the audience vote on whether or notthey thought he was guilty, and most
people thought he was innocent. Ithought he was innocent. I totally thought

(43:35):
he's innocent. I don't like her, yeah, because Shannon Salisman is not
a good performer, so I wouldn'tbelieve her anything. I know, you
didn't like her at Nights Tale,you don't like her today. I don't
like her and anything, and I'msure she's a nice lady. But yeah,
my final entry into this epic episodewill be the ending of Lost Man.
Lost was another one of those popularshows. Man, it was worldwide.

(43:55):
I remember getting together with friends everyweekend or every week to watch the
latest episode. People are always talkingabout. This was before the kind of
the internet really caught on, Soit was it was wild Man and that
last season apparently it was rushed.Apparently they maybe thought they were gonna get
another season or two and they hadto wrap things up. And so like
the original and there were the originalinhabitants on the island that never got to

(44:19):
be fleshed out. There was stuffthat happened super quick, and things you
know, change over, and charactersdying left and right and and yeah and
Jack dies and and some people getoff and so anyway, I I would
I feel like Lost was such agreat show because it was all about the
mystery. What's gonna happen next,what's around the corner, what's over here?
Who are these people they were?I thought they were pretty good at

(44:42):
rolling out the mystery slowly. Uh, And I would love to see a
sequel series to that. It's sameuniverse same, maybe not the same,
maybe the same island, but likewhat other aspects of the island do we
not understand. Are there people thatgo back to the island and try to
discover rediscover it, you know,or maybe there's a corporation or a national
entity that tries to get in thereand some people are lost again and they

(45:04):
you know. I feel like there'sa lot more secrets that the island could
hold. Hugo ended up being thecaretaker. If you don't know, he
was one of the characters on theshow. He ended up being kind of
the caretaker of the island at theend. What happened to him? Did
he pass it on to somebody else? I feel like they if they did
it right, which you know,who knows if they did it right.
I feel like that could have acool uh could have a cool follow on.

(45:27):
And I don't mind. I don'tthink it's like sacred like some things
are where I wouldn't mind seeing asequel to the Lost show. Well that's
a good point, man. Ihaven't seen I started Lost. I've seen
like the first season, but Iyeah, I know that it was a
big thing when it was when itwas out, I remember it was like
every Friday or thursday'd come on TV. Yeah. First of all, do

(45:50):
you just remember when like that wasthe thing? Yeah? Man, he
used to wait, he used towait a yeah for Thursday PM on CBS.
Yeah. Yeah. You couldn't juststream it whenever you want. You
had to show up at a certaintime. Yeah. TV crazy, so
crazy times, oh times. Andyou couldn't record it, you know,
before that. But yeah, no, I remember when the I I was

(46:14):
super young, but I remember peoplelike coming up in arms about like some
of the twists and loss and someof the deaths in the final season or
something like that. But that's areally good one. I gotta I actually
I haven't finished it, so Ihave to do that, all right or
right knocked out? It's the world. It's worth the journey you take,
you know. Yeah, the eventhough the last season last season was not

(46:35):
it's not as abysmal. It doesn'treach Game of Thrones season eight level,
but it was kind of disappointing.It was like it felt rushed. Okay,
that's unfortunate, but good, goodway to end our little, our
little debate here. But let's moveon to our fan qustion that comes to
us from Dylan via email, andremember if you guys got questions for us,

(46:57):
sen us a email at the Pieceto the PCF podcast at gmail dot
com. We love seeing what yougot and there's a chance it might be
featured on emisode. Just like Dylan'squestion here, which he wonders what weapons,
in your opinions, are the mostoverhyped weapons in military, video games
and movies. Good question, yep, my answer. My answer is the

(47:17):
crossbow. I don't understand why anybodylikes this, especially if video games specifically
like Hell Divers too coming out witha cross explosive tip crossbow. I just
don't get what the unless there's somesort of actual noise advantage, like you
can't get discovered or they can't pickup on your location as easily. It's
just get a grenade launcher or getsome other explosive tipped or explosive projectile weapon

(47:40):
like a grenade launcher or whatever,and just do that. I don't there's
some mistique about it. Maybe we'reall big Daryl Dickson fans from The Walker
Yeah, I'm Walking Dead. Ijust I don't know. It's it looks
cool, but I think it's totallyimpractical. Yeah, I mean I agree
with you, man, like you, first of all, you need a
very powerful crossbow to get any typeof distance I feel like, and then

(48:02):
crossbow bolts versus arrows typically and correctme if I'm wrong. Crossbow people out
there, but like, crossbow boltsare much shorter. I'm assuming this effects
your trajectory. They are quiet,though, so that might be the thing,
but you also have to be kindof close. It's not like you
can take a two hundred meters crossbowshot. I have it, you know,

(48:22):
and have it be like super deadly. But no, that's a good
one man crossbows I have. LikeI think chainsaws are super stupid, and
you're a Gears War fan. Ilove Gears of War. Awesome video game
concept, but like, I don'tthink they're practical at all. They're super
loud, you know what happens ifyou're chaining breaks Like whenever I see like,

(48:45):
first of all, really cool sceneslike great features and movies. I
mean, you have some iconic sceneslike Evil Dead using chainsaws. You know,
obviously chainsaw massacre is a big thing, but also like you have it
that crazy chainsaw fight in Mandy.Yeah, like that's just cool. To
watch, but I think it's superimpractical. Like wielding a chainsaw, I

(49:07):
don't think is effective. The chainscan break and after they break, like
they're useless. So like imagine ifI'm pretty sure if you like use chainsaw
on a metal object, like thechain will just snap. Yeah, Like
it's not practical. They're super loud, they run out of gas, like,
I don't think they're practical. Butalso honorable mention to flamethrowers I think

(49:27):
are super overhyped just because I meanthey look super cool, like seeing a
super flamethrower go off amazing. Iwould hate to get covered in flamethrower.
It's instant death, but the rangeisn't that long. You have a giant
gas tank on your back, youare like way wider and you are a
target immediately. Yes, and youwill die. That is the thing.

(49:51):
There's a crazy little fact that inWorld War Two the average life expectancy of
a flamethrower was five minutes once theyhit the beach. Flamethrower operator just yeah,
you're the guy. Man. You'relike, you're the guy oh man,
Yeah yeah, you're just like,Okay, I guess I lost the
lottery here because you were your life. You're no shit. Your life expensity

(50:14):
was five minutes once like in Okinetor in Japan, like during the Pacific.
Yeah, their life expensity was fiveminutes. They all died. I
know. There was one interview withthis old guy that somehow survived and he
was just like I was the onlyone. That's all man, super crazy.

(50:34):
That's my answer, good answer,man. All right, cam gam
cam with the gams yep at thestart of the game, my friend and
this one right, what do yougot, oh mine? I got a
game for you called All the Closureyou Can Handle. I will give you
the name of a character and youtell me if they died or lived in
a specific movie, game, orTV show. That's it. You got
a fifty to fifty chance to getit right. You don't even need to

(50:55):
tell me how they died or howthey lived their lives after they lived.
Let's just see where your cheeks take. Okay, So all I have to
do is tell you what universe theyare in. No, you just have
to tell me if they live ordie. Oh oh okay, I misunderstood
that. Yeah, No, Iyou just tell me like this is the
warm up. Tony Stark Infinity War. Oh, he dies. He lives

(51:16):
in Infinity War. Oh, inthe movie specifically, not in like the
entire Oh, I see what you'resaying. Okay, but endgame. Yes,
he does die Infinity War, helives. I see, okay,
I understand now, yeah, allright. Next one, first official question?
Ready and Ellen Ripley Sigourney Weaver fromAlien three, Alien three. I

(51:38):
believe she dies. That is correct. She does dies. Do you know
how she dies? For bonus points? She kills herself right to kill the
alien. She's pregnant, she gota queen and side of her and I
don't specifically remember. Does she diveinto hot lava? She dives into hot

(52:00):
lava? Yeah, molten steel,I think specifically, but yeah, I'll
give it to you. Yeah,hot mac rat magrit, hot Magma death,
Magma death. Good stuff, man, All right. Number two,
Private Reeban. This is Ed Burns'scharacter in Saving Private Ryan. Edward burns
character. Can I look up whathe looks like, just so I know

(52:22):
who it is? Look up EdwardBurns. Yeah, I'm looking at ed
Burns. Don't don't type in edBurns. Oh, Yeah, okay,
he's I remember, Uh, he'sthe one with the bar. He has
the Browning automatic rifle all the time. Does he survive. I want to

(52:44):
say he survives, good instincts.Cam he does live. He's one of
the guys again that does live.Uh said, Private Ryan lives. Obviously
he lives. I think there's maybeUpham lives. There's only like one or
there's only three or four of themthat live out of the whole crew.
Yeah. No, it's a brutalfinal battle scene. Yeah, it is.
Man. Max Martini is in that. He's one of the guys on

(53:05):
Matt Damon's unit. I just likethat actor. He's done a lot of
good military role Max Martinez. Ohyeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway he
plays, he plays in Thirteen Hours. Yeah yeah, good Yeah, good
actor, good dude, good actThere's a lot of he likes. Those
are a lot of veterans stuff tosee him at VM the events. But
uh, is he a veteran.No, he's not. He's just a
supporter. Yeah. He has agreat movie called Sergeant Something where it's like

(53:30):
he's a he's a homeless vet whogoes on kind of a road trip across
America on a motorcycle and steal themotorcycle. He does steal the motorcycle.
Yeah, I know what you're talkingabout. It very sad, sad,
sad sad. That yeah, verysad. But uh yeah, I know
it's about all right, okay thesidebar, but let's get on with it.
Next one. You got these,both of these, right, So
the next one Glenn Ree played byStevenyun and the Walking Dead Glenn terrible death,

(53:55):
brutal death. Yeah, yeah,this was like this was actually gave
me PTSD how bad he was killed, Like he was such a good character.
I remember Sydney and I watched WalkingDead religiously and I knew it was
coming because I because I remember,I knew it was coming, but I

(54:17):
never actually saw the scene and itis. It is brutal. Oh man,
Yeah, like it is scarring,like you feel like you just lost
a friend. Dang, dude,speaking, I should have brought this up,
like closure talking about closure endings,Cliffhangers, Walking Dead, I should
have mentioned that the whole series arejust parts of it. Like Rick Rick

(54:42):
Rick, which Rick from Walking Deadwas played. H Yeah, he's Rick
Rhymes played by Andrew Lincoln. Theyjust kill him off randomly. The most
they take him away, they takehim away, doesn't get into a hell
because he's got a show coming out. Yeah, they take him away in
a helicopter and they're like, you'regoing to bring you back. No,

(55:04):
he never does ever. He neverever ever comes back. It is the
and it's out of nowhere too.There's no like build up to it.
It's just like, oh, dude, that was actually the most pissed off
I've ever been. You want totalk about like feeling robbed? Well,
are you going to watch the nextthe spinoff series with him and Michelle?
Yeah? I probably will the onesyeah if he Yeah, if they run

(55:25):
into each other, I'll be sohappy. I thought he was going to
come back because they had the DarrylDixon spin off. Yeah, he's in
London, He's in England and uh, he literally or he's in France.
Yeah, I think he's in France. Yeah, but anyways, he's in
France and like he says, somebody'she's looking for someone at the end of

(55:45):
Darryl Dixon, and like, Ithought it was going to be Rick.
I thought I was gonna be ifit was Rick, I was going to
lose my mind. Yeah, butit wasn't, and I was thoroughly disappointed.
But anyways, yeah, walking Dad, that's my insert in the game.
Let's play good good insert man,good unresolved issues, all right.

(56:06):
Next one, John Marston from RedDead Redemption. I've never played the game,
so this is going to be afifty to fifty. I'm gonna say
he dies. Good instincts, man, he does die at the end of
Red Red Redemption. I've actually onlyever played Red Dead Redemption two and he
it's a prequel, so he's alivethrough that whole thing and it kind of

(56:29):
dovetails into the events of Red DeadRedemption one, which takes place after the
events of Red de Redemption two,which is very confusing. But good character.
I know he's a big piece offan favorite, but you got a
right man. He does live.Yeah, didn't play the odds on that
one, all right. Next theworld famous blockbuster, absolutely totally successful film,

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Battleship Admiral Shane, which is playedby Liam Neeson in Battleship. This
is the one with Rihanna in it. Right, I actually didn't mind this
movie. I thought it was gonnaI didn't mind it either. I thought
it was kind of fun with likethe little boats that came out Yeah,
they got the old guys to bringthe old battleship out of mothballs. Yeah,

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you know they're not gonna sing thisbattleship. Yeah. I don't remember
how it ends. I do not, but I'm just gonna fifty to fifty.
I'm gonna say he he dies.Oh, your first mistake, Cameron.
He does live. Admiral Shane liamNeeson. Yeah, you don't kill

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off liam Neeson. I don't killnot even in the Gray, not even
in the Gray. Apparently maybe Idon't know. Yeah, we don't know.
There's another one. Yeah that wason the that was on the list.
I just didn't get to it.So yeah, see he does live.
Uh. I think one of theScars guards who plays his brother dies
in it. But it's probably thebest. Okay, next one, we

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got two more, two more,let's knock them out. Chris Mannix played
by Walton Goggins in The Hateful Eight. Chris mannis Walter Goggins. Can I
look up the actors? Walton WaltonGoggins. He's going to be a new
Netflix or the new new Sheriff.Yeah. Uh, I haven't seen the

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Oh you haven't I have. It'sit's very good. There's actually a good
story in it. Okay, Ican Alton Gouggins. He lives, he
lives, all right here, you'reright, he does live. Man,
good for you. There's a bigshootout at the end. It's a big
twist. You should watch it.There's actually a story about this. So
you ever heard of the guitar companyMartin. Yeah, this is where they

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have the Martin Guitars guitar guitar.Yeah, my dad works for Martin.
So yeah, it was this forthe listeners that don't know. They had
this guitar on set that Martin letthem use for a prop. And there's
this scene where Kurt Russell's character hashe's a he's a bounty hunter. He's

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they call him the hangman, andhe brings in this one woman that he's
gonna hang and she's sitting there andshe's playing guitar and they have this priceless
This thing was like one of thefirst Martin's made. It could sell for
millions and millions of dollars. Andin the in the uh in the script,
Kurt Russell was gonna take the guitarfrom her and smash it to bits.

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But they were supposed to switch theguitars out, but Quentin Tarantino apparently
knew that they never switched him outand wanted a real reaction from the character.
So nobody told Kurt that they didn'tswitch it out. So he in
the scene, he grabs this pricelessguitar that Martin lent them and smashes it

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to pieces multimillion dollar guitar. Andthe actress that was playing, you know,
obviously was there. He wanted areal authentic reaction out of her,
which I think is a douche move. That's a douche move. Yeah,
I would, I would. Iwould expect Kate Quentin Tarantito to do something
like that. Yeah. So KurtRussell smashed a multimillion dollar guitar, and
then Martin was like, we arenever doing this ever again. Yeah,

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you've just broken our trust in allof Yeah, in all of Hollywood's never
getting a guitar. Oh man,Well you're doing good, man, that's
a good story. By the way, you're doing good. You only got
one wrong, You got one moreleft, Okay. Commander Shepherd in Mass
Effect too. Oh, I haven'tplayed Mass Effect too, but I'm pretty

(01:00:35):
sure you've talked about it enough,but I don't remember some I's gonna send
one in the dark. He CommanderShepherd. He's going to live. He
does live. He lives until thethird movie, where he either sacrifices himself,
chooses to transcend or destroys the bigmachine at the end. I don't
know. Yeah, but he's themain character of the of the main of

(01:00:58):
the of the show. The story. Basically, I got a game.
Rather Okay, that was a fungame, dude. It was a good
game. Man. You didn't reallywant to get one wrong. Okay,
Well, when it's fifty to fifty, I better, you know, I
mean, I don't know, it'sfifty fifty nooks. Gods, we're in
your favorite man. Thank you forspending all this time with us. Thank
you Izzy for the excellent game andthe excellent conversation. We hope you enjoyed

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