Pop Fiction Women
In Pop Fiction Women we deep-dive into the complicated women of books, movies and TV shows, along with the women that bring them to life behind the scenes. Think Fleabag and Phoebe Waller Bridge, Normal People and Sally Rooney, and so much more. In each episode you can expect us to: * Break down the protagonist as we ask what makes her complicated? * Identify the best scenes, which can mean sweetest, funniest, or most badass. Anything we love. * Recount the cringiest scenes. The ones that make you squirm. Sometimes it’s self-sabotage, sometimes it’s growth, but it’s always part of the process of becoming our complicated selves. * Play arm-chair therapist in What’s Your Damage, Heather? An homage to the iconic line in Winona Ryder’s Heathers, we discuss how these characters got to be the way they are. * “What She Said” - the segment where we scour every essay and interview with the women behind the scenes and share some of our favorite first person quotes. Real life is as interesting as fiction here. * Look into our crystal ball and ponder where these characters are six months later and five years later. Typically, Kate gets very real and Carinn gets buck wild. * Provide a takeaway, aka that part in the podcast where we try to sound deep. We leave you with some parting wisdom, challenge each other with thought-provoking questions inspired by the work, and urge you to “stay complicated.”
Episodes
“Made for you might not be meant for you.” With a tagline like that, and a nuanced, realistic script about the brutal nature of love, connection and personal growth, it’s no wonder that we both loved the new film All of You on AppleTV. Here’s the summary: “Laura and Simon have been best friends since college. Over the years they've realized their bond is more than platonic. Can they - and should they – risk everything to explor...
In this episode we finally deep dive into Materialists, Celine Song’s follow-up to her Oscar-nominated movie, Past Lives (which we also covered - go check that out too!). There is so much to discuss in this film: choosing love or choosing the life you want; exploring how Lucy’s wound mirrors our own but how her response to it differs; turning a realistic lens on modern dating; and why, like Celine Song, we will never tire of obsess...
In today’s Complicated Conversation, we chat with Laura Goode about her book, Pitch Craft: The Writer’s Guide to Getting Agented, Published, and Paid. This book is a must-read for both aspiring writers and seasoned authors. Listen now and discover practical advice on navigating the publishing world, understanding the psychology of overachievement, and redefining our understanding of success and competition. The vibe of this conver...
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Sidebar on L.O.V.E second chances and reversing the prophesy from Taylor Swift and TSITP
In today’s Complicated Conversations, we welcome bestselling author Samantha Downing to discuss her latest novel, Too Old For This, a story about a wickedly funny female serial killer who has to come out of retirement to protect her past.
We chat with Sam about her unforgettable heroine, Lottie Jones, who came into her mind and demanded her story be told. We discuss the themes of anger, the societal expectations placed on women (pa...
On this episode, we sidebar on the identity crisis of the rom-com, how mutual admiration is the foundation for love, sexing up Taylor Swift and covering up Pam Anderson - why we're here for both. And since we're talking about bodies, we discuss anxiety disorders vs eating disorders by way of reality TV lessons.
On today’s episode of Complicated Conversations, we welcome Cleyvis Natera to discuss her new thriller, The Grand Paloma Resort, which explores the complexities of sisterhood, the impact of tourism on local communities, and the themes of race and class in the Dominican Republic. Through the characters of Laura, Elena, and Vida, Cleyvis delves into the responsibilities and burdens of familial relationships, the healing power of comm...
In this episode, we deep dive into the soapy sapphic thriller, The Hunting Wives. Based on a book by May Cobb and led by showrunner Rebecca Cutter, this Netflix summer binge series has everyone talking - and for good reason!
At the heart of the story are two very complicated women, Sophie and Margo, played brilliantly by Brittany Snow and Malin Ackerman. Sophie, portrayed as an outsider grappling with her identity, finds herself dra...
On today’s Complicated Conversation we welcome back Karin Slaughter, the author of twenty-five instant New York Times bestselling novels, to delve into the gripping world of "We Are All Guilty Here," the first book in a thrilling new series. The story kicks off with the kidnapping of two young girls, drawing us into the life of Emmy Clifton, a determined sheriff's deputy. As Emmy navigates the complexities of her pers...
On this sidebar episode we dive into the fiery energy of Leo season, reflecting on the transition from the emotional depths of Cancer; share personal experiences, from Kate's upcoming birthday trip to Las Vegas to see the Backstreet Boys at The Sphere, to Carinn's creative breakthroughs during Cancer season. We also explore the complexities of relationships, both fictional and real, discussing the latest season of "The...
In this episode of Debut Discussions, we dive into the captivating world of Our Secrets Were Safe with author Virginia Trench. Discover the inspiration behind this thrilling novel, where two friends grapple with the aftermath of a crime they thought was long ago buried. Virginia shares her journey from a lifelong dream to be a published author, exploring themes of past secrets, privilege, the role of female rage in contemporary lit...
On this episode of Seven Questions we welcome Emily Harding to take her chance with a deck of cards that will lead us on a hi-low therapy session, putting her and the characters of her new romance novel, How Freaking Romantic, on the “couch”! Emily chats with us about her journey as a writer, the complexities of love and anger, and the importance of vulnerability in relationships. She shares insights on creating “unlikable” charact...
"What if the perfect life you see online is just a well-crafted lie? In today’s episode of Complicated Conversations, we chat with bestselling author Jo Piazza about her new thriller, Everyone Here Is Lying. We explore the world of Tradwife influencers, the curated illusions they create, and the societal implications of these online personas. Jo shares her insights on the patriarchy, the reality behind influencer culture, and how t...
On today’s Complicated Conversations, we welcome Clemence Michallon, author of international bestseller The Quiet Tenant, to discuss her new thriller, Our Last Resort. Fifteen years ago, Frida and her brother escaped a cult. Now her brother is the prime suspect in a murder investigation—and it isn’t the first time.
We chat with Clemence about sibling dynamics, whether you can ever really know someone, her obsession with cults and th...
In this episode of Debut Discussions we chat with Turner Gable Kahn to discuss The Dirty Version, a romance involving an author and an intimacy coordinator who are thrown together to write new, steamy sex scenes for a TV series based on her hit novel!
We chat with Turner about her journey as a writer, the inspiration behind her debut novel, female rage and feminism, the tropes that shape her narrative, escalating heat in a romance, ...
Sidebar on the movies that got into our bloodstreams (Kate = The Materialists, Carinn = Sinners), the Karen Read trial, losing and letting dreams come true, and Cancer season life vests for all!
On today’s episode we are joined by Lynn Harris, an award-winning journalist/novelist and founder of GOLD Comedy, to discuss My Old Ass, written and directed by Megan Park and starring Aubrey Plaza. In this coming-of-age comedy drama film, an 18th-birthday mushroom trip brings Elliott (played by Maisy Stella) face-to-face with her wisecracking 39-year-old self.
All our old asses loved this film! We chat about our favorite emotional ...
We’re back with another episode of what we like to call high-low therapy, where we let a deck of cards take us to places we never expected. On this episode, Kate is the dealer and Carinn is in the hot seat. We discuss what we're chasing, what keeps us up at night, being hangry, and how being a sheep is the Aries ram's worst fear.
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In today’s Complicated Conversation we welcome New York Times and #1 international bestselling author, Julie Clark, to discuss her new novel, The Ghostwriter, a story that skillfully blends family drama, a dark mystery, and a shocking tragedy that will keep you turning the pages twist after twist. In it, main character Olivia Dumont, is ghostwriting the book of her famous horror writer father, who was accused of murdering his own s...
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