July 31, 2025 • 43 mins
The struggle for voting rights in America forms the backbone of our democracy, yet many of us fail to exercise this hard-won privilege. In this eye-opening conversation, Rob and Jay examine why voting matters far beyond simply checking a box every four years.
Have you ever noticed how affluent neighborhoods proudly display political yard signs while other communities keep their political leanings hidden? This striking contrast reveals a fundamental understanding about collective power - when communities visibly rally behind issues and candidates, they create pressure that demands attention from leaders. The silence in other neighborhoods speaks volumes about how we've been conditioned to view political engagement.
What's particularly troubling is how we'll mobilize for consumer issues - boycotting restaurants, camping out for limited edition sneakers, or rallying against corporate policies - yet remain disengaged from the local political processes that directly impact our daily lives. Many don't even know they can vote for their local sheriff or school board members, positions that often have more immediate influence on community wellbeing than national offices.
Rob and Jay offer practical guidance for those feeling overwhelmed by politics: start by checking your voter registration status, research candidates thoroughly, and understand that your vote reflects your personal values. They emphasize that civic engagement extends beyond election day to include ongoing relationship-building with representatives and staying informed about local issues.
The conversation takes on special significance when considering the historical struggle for voting rights. Our ancestors fought and sometimes died for the opportunity to have a voice in governance. When we choose not to vote, we're not just abdicating our responsibility - we're surrendering the power they fought so hard to secure.
Ready to transform your community through civic engagement? Start by learning who represents you locally and how their decisions shape your neighborhood. Your vote isn't just a right - it's your voice in determining the future you want to see.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mic check.
Okay, welcome to anotherepisode of Pops and Son
Conversations.
It is your favorite Silver Fox,Rob Malloy.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
And it is Check three times, checking in.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
All right, welcome to another episode.
It is July.
It's one of those months ofindependence and I would say
politics, Jay.
When I think about July, Ithink of a lot of politics going
on.
What do you think about?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, yeah.
I think about the politics, thepatriotism, all that good stuff
, America, everything like that.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, homer the free and the brave, supposedly.
Look, this is what we wanted todo for you guys here in the
month of July.
We want to talk, notnecessarily politics, but we
wanted to talk about community.
We wanted to talk about youknow, the neighborhood.
(01:02):
We want to talk about what waslearned, what was taught when it
came to politics, you know, notjust the president, but your
city councilman, uh, your mayor,your governor, jay, when, when
you was in school I would say,let's say, elementary school
(01:23):
what was the temperature when itcame to talking about politics
did?
Did they talk about you know,your local councilman, or was it
just straight up?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
president, vice president nah, it was just uh,
yeah, it was just president,president, vice president,
didn't really go too deep intoanything past that.
So yeah, it was just mainly,mainly presidential election and
we actually did like a mock.
I remember doing that a fewtimes like a mock presidential
(01:57):
election, like we were voting,but of course we were too young,
but just, I guess, to kind ofencourage us to do it when we
got older.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But just, I guess, to kind of encourage us to do it
when we got older.
Yeah, I guess also to get aconsensus to see what the
influence was in the household.
So they were slick, trying tofigure out what was going on.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, I see, I didn't even think about it like that,
but you're 100% right.
Oh, yeah, yeah, it was stillsomething to talk about.
You know amongst the peers Likeoh, who you voting for and this
, that and the third.
So yeah, interesting,interesting, take little social
experiment, I guess.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, most definitely was.
So I want to go ahead and justkind of jump right in.
You know and let me put adisclaimer out here you know the
conversation that we're talkingabout is, you know, primarily
us men.
You know just kind ofdiscussing what we were taught,
what we weren't taught, whatwe've learned.
You know, just when it comes tocommunity and representation,
(02:54):
because you know it's very tabooin social media to talk
politics, but the world isrevolved or revolves around
politics, right, Like you can'teven help it.
You hear about the presidentand and the uh news, you know,
talks about what goes on in thegovernment.
(03:16):
So it can't be that taboo ifit's pushed in your face every
single day.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh yeah, right, so there's no way to get around it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So I think if we, if we get ahead of it, you know we
can encourage, you know, ourlisteners, those households and
just people in general, to get agood consensus of you know what
to expect, the expectationsthat that aren't really
discussed.
So let's do it.
(03:47):
I think we should kind of callit like beyond the ballot box or
something like that.
That's a lot of B's man Triple.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
B's Alliteration.
I like it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah.
So let's do that, man.
Let's just talk about realquick voting and what that
really means.
Like I mentioned earlier, youknow, of course we were too
young in high school and thingslike that, but there's always
been a democracy or a votingprocess in whatever institution
(04:16):
we're talking about and I'mtalking about whether it is in
the community, whether it's inthe schools, colleges, you know
the educational system, townhalls, things like that.
So we deal with voting and wedeal with elections all day long
.
So let's kind of talk about,you know, what does voting
(04:39):
really mean?
Like, is it really important?
And we'll just kind of, we'lljust navigate through this thing
here.
So let's just jump into it.
Jay, so has voting?
When you think about voting,what are some of the first
things that come to mind?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Definitely will be the presidential election.
I mean, I feel like my, myframe of reference, just just
when it comes to voting ingeneral.
You know, I came up and fun,funny enough, there was some
interesting campaigns going, uhgoing on, and not just like, uh,
you know, by the government,but also just like in hip-hop
and media, like I remember suchthing as a voter die.
(05:19):
You know, I saw that uh, a lotcoming up.
So you know you had people like, um, I saw that a lot coming up
.
So you know you have peoplelike Jeezy and Puff Daddy kind
of pushing and I guess just kindof trying to raise awareness
about voting.
So to me that was kind of thefirst time that my ears really
perked up to it.
I'm like, ok, you know what'sthis all about, but it took me a
(05:41):
good while to really understandthe gravity of it and the
importance I feel like when Iwas younger it was just like one
of those things that I feltlike I could worry about.
When I got older, you know whatI'm saying Like, okay, yeah,
y'all talking about voting this,that and the third, but how has
it affected me?
What is it going to do for me?
(06:02):
And it really didn't kick inuntil I, you know, I kind of had
to start doing my own research,learning about, you know,
different offices and differentthings that go on in the
community and how my voteactually matters Not so much or
not necessarily when it comes to, you know, the overall, the
(06:24):
presidential election and thingslike that.
But local elections, you knowcity council, like you mentioned
, the mayor, even so far as likethe school board, and you know,
I kind of got a better graspwhen you hear the gossip, you
know what I'm saying, or youhear about who's running for
this, or you start to see adcampaigns around the city and
(06:48):
you hear certain people talkabout certain people or
candidates or whatever the caseis, and so then it really kind
of got my brain working.
It's like, okay, everybody'stalking about this, this has to
be something important, and Imean the truth of the matter is
it's extremely important becausein the community, if we want to
see any type of progress,change or anything like that, we
(07:13):
have to be well for one.
We got to do that first off.
So anybody feels like voting isa waste of time.
You know it couldn't be furtherfrom the truth.
This is how we operate, youknow, as a democracy.
(07:34):
That's just how, how we're setup.
You know, we, we, we cast theseballots, we vote, and that is
how we affect change in oursurroundings and in our
environment.
So, um, you know, it doesn't,it's, it's not an
individualistic thing.
It really takes numbers andcommunity to you know, to make
change.
And yeah, that's the votingright, right.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So so, before we even dig in because you just kind of
uh, hybrid in the conversation,before we dig in too far, I
think when we talk about voting,um, it's, it's imperative that
we talk about the actual rightto vote.
Uh, we have to dig into that um, because, of course, my
(08:19):
generation I'm a 70s baby youknow and and uh, you know and
and uh, you know, my parents, ofcourse, were born in the
forties, in the forties.
So when you, when you thinkabout that, when you put that,
uh, the perspective from fromthat angle, you know, just
actually having the right tovote, uh, people of color, um,
(08:41):
women's rights, you know civilrights and things like that, I
think that's when you have toreally take a look at the
severity of understanding whatvoting is, what voting does,
because you know where we arenow, you know, like you said, I
mean, there's some people thatfeel like it's not going to make
(09:03):
a difference or not, but youhave to really look at what our
ancestors did to positionourselves to be able to vote
Right.
So you know, folks of color,again, not having to say so, of
what goes on or evenunderstanding what that process
(09:23):
is.
I think you know, when we starttalking about history lessons,
when it comes down to voting inthat process, we really have to
look at it as a community.
And when you break it down as acommunity, of course we're just
talking about our ownneighborhood.
So when you start talking abouthaving a neighborhood watch or
(09:46):
just kind of having some type ofinfrastructure within your
neighborhood, having somebodythat's going to be the main
person in the neighborhood toreport to and then empowering
the other communities andhouseholds so that we know
exactly what's going on and wehave some checks and balances,
you know, I feel like that isextremely important when we talk
(10:09):
about the importance of voting,the structure of voting and the
actual ability to vote.
So you know, even with theelection day, when you think
about that, you know it's, it'sannual, like when you talk about
the presidential, thepresidency campaign.
(10:29):
But you know we have.
What we need to understand alsois you know the mayor, the
governor, you know people indifferent districts and I really
wish that even for me, I wasmore versed in even
understanding what that lookslike and I know for a fact here
(10:52):
in 2025, ain't nobody breakingdown or if they are breaking
down, ain't nobody breaking down, or if they are breaking down,
it ain't going viral and folksain't really putting that as
priority as far as informationis needed, but I really wish
that we did a better job, jay.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, I agree it's not going to be as popular,
but you know that's.
That's just one of those thingsthat I don't know.
If it's, you know, just amatter of you know happenstance
or whatever the case is, maybepeople really aren't interested,
maybe the awareness isn't there.
But when I say that, I can'teven imagine that because, like
(11:31):
I said, I remember so manydifferent times where I was
exposed just to voting period,like the importance of it, like
I mentioned earlier, like thevoter die thing and like so
people know about voting, theyknow that there is an importance
there, but I'm not a hundredpercent sure how we could get
the you know the turnover to behigher or just to get people to
(11:54):
take it more, more seriously.
Like you said, I think a lot ofpeople look at it as something
boring, they kind of check out.
I hear a lot of people saypolitics they aren't into
politics, which is a crazy thingto say, but that's just how a
lot of people feel.
They don't care about what'sgoing on in the government,
(12:15):
what's going on in the community.
They're kind of more on theindividual uh path, which I mean
honestly, I wasn't gonna sayit's cool, but it's really not
cool because at the end of theday, it's a detriment to the
whole the, the overall community.
So, uh yeah, people just gottaget more, more in tune and want
to see better for everybody, notjust yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I tell you, what is even more interesting for me is
when you think about theinfluence or even the
conversation about how importantvoting is and the elections and
things like that.
Take a look at the communityright.
(12:58):
Certain communities have andthis is really funny.
So think about when you go pastor you go into neighborhoods
that have these huge homes andestates and things like that.
And, mark, and let me know ifI'm wrong or not but when you go
and you see those type ofneighborhoods and communities,
(13:19):
don't they have a lot of signsin their yard?
Jay.
Don't they let you know exactlywho they're voting for and who
they are who they want.
You know they want to let youknow.
Maybe the uh, not so, um, youknow.
(13:44):
When it comes to you know,money, let's just be real about
it.
When it comes to you know whatclasses maybe lower class, um,
middle class, that type of thingthey don't want no signs in
their yard.
They don't want you to know whothey're voting for.
It's a secret, right?
It's a secret about who they'revoting for.
It's a secret about you knowthe stand that they're taking,
(14:09):
right, because they associatethat candidate with every single
thing, every singlerepresentation of their
household.
Now, I don't think that there'sany candidate that you agree
100% with their policies.
It's impossible.
I'm not going to agree 100%, butI think just standing on
(14:29):
something shows unity.
It also shows that you arepositioning yourself to take a
stance, long term and short term.
I think that is so importantbecause now you start looking uh
at um other potential people inposition right, it's never just
(14:53):
x for president, x for vicepresident and the uh
superintendent.
You start seeing the mayor, youstart seeing district.
(15:15):
You know negating theimportance of voting but really
just educating on elections andhow it's going to impact our
schools, our roads.
You know, especially our roadsright, especially here in
Atlanta, man home of thepotholes, right Home of the
(15:37):
potholes, right Home of thepotholes.
man, I hate to say that, butAtlanta, city of Atlanta, home
of the potholes.
But yeah, you know, just, youknow our libraries and things
that we don't think about.
And all of a sudden, you knowwe get bent out of shape when we
see things that are coming inour community that we probably
wouldn't condone if we had tosay so.
(15:58):
All of this stuff is a part ofthe election.
It's a part of the localelection.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
You know, a lot of stuff is right here in plain
sight that we don't payattention to yeah, and I want to
add on to something about thethat you know, the paradox that
you mentioned about thedifference between lower income
communities and more affluentareas is about that silence,
(16:26):
right?
Look at how.
So, when you think about it,groups this is how groups work.
They have a louder voice thanindividuals, right?
So anytime a community ralliestogether around an issue, that
creates the pressure, thatbrings the attention, and it
forces those leaders to listen.
(16:46):
So what those communities aredoing by having those signs all
over the place like that, it'snot just for show, it's to let
people know yo, this communityright here stands for this, and
we're putting pressure on thesetypes of issues that we want to
see in our community.
So, uh, what's messed up aboutit, though, is that if you don't
(17:08):
, if you, if you don't do that,then basically, what you're
saying is you're beingcompletely silent and you don't
have any uh, uh, anything topoint out about the community.
You don't want anything fixed.
You don't have a leader thatyou maybe even want to vote for
or show support for that couldbring some type of fix to the
community.
So what happens is thecommunity involvement, a lot of
(17:33):
times, is even where we see thenext generation of leaders right
.
A lot of these leaders aretoday.
You know.
They may have been in their SGAin school or they may have been
an activist in their youngeryears, going to rallies and
things like that.
It's how people get theirexperience and learn how to
collaborate when it comes toleadership.
(17:56):
So, yeah, I just had to add onto that man, because when you
were saying I'm like that's agreat point, but it also just
shows, you know, it's like theproof is in the pudding.
You can't be afraid just to saywho you support.
You know what I'm saying.
That shouldn't be somethingthat's taboo.
It's the complete opposite ofwhat we should do in order to,
(18:20):
because, also, when you seethose signs, it's like those
people know, you know it's like,okay, that's Kenfolk, right
there.
You know, at the end of the day, it's like it's literal
community.
So, yeah, I just want to addthat point about it.
Yeah, I just want to add thatpoint about it.
Maybe you know, just by sayingthat, like that could spark the
(18:41):
change and maybe people startthinking differently about those
yard signs or those flags orbumper stickers or whatever the
case, like it's no shame inshowing support for a political
leader that you want to see makesome change in your community.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Right and you know, also, I kind of miss the, you
know, the community raising upthe leaders.
It's kind of like you knowthere's people that families are
in politics, like you know,started out with the great
granddad.
Maybe he was the mayor and then, and then the granddad, you
know, maybe he was the governorand then city councilman and and
the senator.
Like you know that type ofsituation and I think that you
know people of color in ourcommunity.
We are making strides when itcomes to having our feet and
(19:35):
hands in politics.
You know there's some wonderfulpoliticians, even here in
Atlanta, you know Warnock, mayorDickens, andre Dickens.
We have great representationand the important part about
(19:57):
that is really getting a chanceto know who they are Like.
We have opportunities to go toevents.
Now, one thing I'll say aboutMayor Andre Dickens he's
accessible.
Now, I ain't saying you go upthere and shake his hand without
security, you know, puttingyour arm behind your back, but
I'm saying he's in the field.
He's in the field.
(20:18):
I remember myself and mybusiness partner we had went to
I think it was a fundraiser andit kind of help you with, you
know, being stressed and being,you know, one of those
(20:47):
mechanisms that you can use to.
You know, have some type ofstress relief and things like
that.
And you know he was there, hewas mixing and mingling.
Now he got up in there, saidwhat he said and he rolled out.
But but for the most partthough, he was there and you
wouldn't think that he wouldhave been at that type of event.
But he does move around.
(21:07):
So I give him a big shout out.
He does move around in thecommunity, the city of Atlanta.
You know he's real heavy onmaking sure that he is reachable
, especially when it comes downto, you know, community issues.
So I give him that.
But I do want to just kind ofstep into the danger of of when
(21:29):
people don't vote Right, when,when you're the type this is
like my vote doesn't matter, Idon't really care, they're going
to pick whoever they want, thattype of thing.
I think, jay, that theirmindset is so far detached of
what really matters locally.
Like you can't really trip onthe presidency.
(21:52):
You understand the electoralcollege and I know that people
kind of look at that and say,okay, it's, it's already in
position.
But one thing you can do forsure is your local officials.
You can make sure that yourvoice is heard right that
there's offices that peopledon't even know about, that are
(22:14):
down the street from them, whereyou can go in.
You can file a complaint aboutwhat's going on in your
neighborhood.
You can file a complaint youknow about the sheriff's office
or the city of, or whatever youknow.
Whatever facility is going onyou can go and file a complaint
about.
You know the school district,the schools, what's going on,
(22:35):
and you know people go to liketo school.
Here's what's wild, here'swhat's going on, and you know
people go to like to school.
Here's what's wild, here'swhat's wild.
People go to the school andcomplain to the people at the
school.
That's that's what this, thesoup, you know the
superintendent's for, that'swhat the the uh board of
(22:57):
education and things like that.
Look, man, that's like youcoming to my restaurant and
telling me, hey, I don't likewhat's going on here, I want
change.
I'm like, okay, write down yourcomplaint and I'll take it and
I'll file it and we'll get ittaken care of.
Versus going to the BetterBusiness Bureau or going to your
(23:21):
local business and saying, hey,man, something may write about
this restaurant.
Look into it.
Like if you come to me and yousay there's an issue.
You know I'm just going topacify you for that time being.
You know, figuratively speaking, right, but they'll just pacify
you for that time being.
So I think it's so importantthat people understand the chain
(23:44):
of command.
You know, that's my militarycoming out right, but the chain
of command, uh, the checks andbalances of what goes on and why
voting is so significant.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Another reason is just, I meanrepresentation, right, if, if
you're not voting, you know this.
This is how I think about it.
If, if you're not voting,you're just one of those people
that are in a classroom notvoting.
You're just one of those peoplethat are in the classroom and I
don't know, you know if y'allremember this, but you know they
(24:17):
would do a vote for what wewanted for uh, for for lunch or
or whatever the case is.
And if, right, if you don'tvote, then you just getting
whatever.
You know, the majority is likeyour, your, your vote matters
because you want to see sometype of representation of
yourself and and what you wantin the overall uh policies that
(24:40):
that that are being um added.
So, people that don't vote, forone reason you, you can't go
anywhere and try to complainabout anything if.
If you didn't vote, you're apart of the.
You're literally a part of thereason you're complaining about
things that may be going on, butyou didn't do anything to try
(25:01):
to help change that right.
So I mean, that's just one ofthe things.
And then you mentioned earlierabout how our ancestors man we
went through so much earlier,about how our ancestors.
Man, we went through so much,especially black people we went
through so much to get thisright to vote.
It makes no sense not toutilize it and not exercise that
(25:23):
right.
I mean, think about it.
They do stuff that you know.
Laws can be overturned, there'sthings that can be taken away.
There's different rights thatcan be.
You know what I'm saying.
If you aren't exercising yourright, they will literally take
(25:43):
it from you, and that'ssomething that's wild to think
about, you know.
Then you have extremists, right.
That's another side of notvoting.
If you're not voting, then thatleads way to maybe some radical
person with all these crazyideals that they're able to
(26:09):
rally up enough people to votefor them, and now they do.
I mean, you know I'm notpointing no fingers, but you
know they, they're able to rallyup enough people to vote for
them, and now they do.
I mean, you know I'm notpointing fingers, but you know
Trump, you know what I'm saying.
Like you got people that areable to to galvanize voters get
in office and start making thesedifferent changes and laws that
do not represent you whatsoeverlaws that do not represent you
(26:35):
whatsoever.
But because you sat back,because you felt like your vote
didn't count because you feltlike you know it didn't matter
and you basically going with theflow.
I mean you know you can't beupset at the outcome of that.
So, yeah, voting is tooimportant.
I mean it's understated.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I agree 1000%.
Uh, look, you know, this is oneof those conversations that we
can do, uh, over and over Um,it's one of those conversations
that never gets old.
The importance of it istimeless.
Um, before we wrap this up, jay, I do want to talk about a few
things.
I want to talk about theimportance of not only voting
(27:17):
but your voice and actually, youknow, leaving a legacy, because
when you think about it, whenyou make a decision because
that's what voting is aboutVoting is about making a
decision, standing behind it andmaking sure that you see
through the outcome.
(27:38):
Right, you don't just vote andthen just, you know, go away
Like, ok, I did my thing,hopefully it works out.
You have to continue to not onlyencourage the community to vote
, but stand for something, andeven if you don't get the
outcome of the result, thatdoesn't mean give up, that
doesn't mean that there's nohope, that doesn't mean that,
(28:01):
because who you wanted torepresent you isn't there, that
you can't make an impact in yourcommunity, your community.
And so I think that those aresome very key points that we
have to continue to encourageeach other to, you know, move
forward with and reallyunderstand and really just
encouraging that entireconversation within the family
(28:23):
Because, as we mentioned earlierin the show, it's been taboo
for centuries.
Let's not talk about politics,let's not talk about what goes
on in the news.
If you feel this way about acandidate and I feel that a
different candidate is theanswer then we're not going to
have a conversation, because wedon't want to battle, we don't
(28:46):
want to have a house that'sdivided, and you know that's the
complete opposite, because Ithink it'll challenge us to
really look at what are thebullet points, what are some of
the main factors that you feelare important, and so you take
(29:06):
those things there and then yousee if your candidate stands
behind your values, standsbehind your perspective and
really understand the communitythat you're in.
So I think that those thingsare extremely important.
So I would ask you, like youknow, what do you think one of
(29:29):
the things that listeners todaycan do more to be more engaged
in the entire process andconversation?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Definitely.
Actually, here I got you.
So number one.
If you don't know if you areregistered, I definitely would
go ahead and check that.
Make sure you are registered tovote.
That's number one and then juststart doing some research.
I mean, that's another big thingabout this.
(30:02):
Voting is 100% important, butanother aspect of it is knowing
who you're voting for and whatthey stand for and what their
policies, and you know how orhow not how well you may align
with them.
You know what I'm saying andthat's, and that's another thing
.
Yeah, we talk about thecommunity, but the individual
(30:22):
part of it is about how youpersonally feel.
Right, you don't need to justhop on a bandwagon and just do
what everybody else is doing.
That's good bandwagon and justdo what everybody else is doing,
like figure out you know whichcandidate aligns most with you,
and that's how you make makemake your decision.
But it's it's gotta be researchfor number one.
(30:42):
And then, of course, you knowyou gotta be registered.
So double, double check on thatand then.
And then, yeah, just do someresearch.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Matter of fact, check three times right, and then,
yeah, just do some research.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Matter of fact, check three times.
Right, that's right.
Check three times.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, yeah, I think that you know you made some
really good points and you knowwe also have to understand that.
You know, different generationsfeel different ways.
You know you may have somegenerations here that are like
you know what.
It doesn't really make adifference, why even try?
But then you also have tounderstand the people that
(31:17):
fought and have seen theprogress of the rights to vote.
They're like what are you doing?
What are you doing?
What are you talking about?
Like, if you look at it fromthe first level I don't want to
say the lowest level, becauseall are important but if you
look at it at the first level inyour community, do people
(31:41):
really know that you can pickwho the sheriff is, who your
sheriff is?
People aren't thinking aboutthat.
Do you know how much influenceyou can have on who the mayor is
?
A lot of times we're I don'twant to say stuck, but we
continue to have the same peoplein office because no one is
(32:05):
voting.
And it could have been acomplete 180 if you just woke up
and saw the importance ofvoting.
Like, if you don't, if youdon't like what's around you,
you can change it by being apart of it.
And and here's what's wild jay,and we're almost out of time,
right, but this is why I want toget off.
(32:25):
This is what I really want tomake sure that we go.
We will rally behind gettingshoes.
We will rally behind gettingshoes.
We will rally behind gettingconcert tickets.
We will boycott restaurants,man.
We will rally behind a clothingstore Do not come here anymore.
(32:54):
We don't like.
You know.
They said something about usand they treat us a certain way
and and said that you know wedon't take cash here.
We will rally behind that.
Go all around Facebook, all thesocial media outlets, to to try
to trash a small business.
(33:15):
Meanwhile, you're not evenvoting or you're not even taking
the time to do your duediligence or the effort to meet
who your city council person is.
Imagine being able to just makea phone call to your city
councilman, instead of yourisking your life up there.
(33:36):
Or you know they call thepolice on you because you
disturbing the peace.
When you could have actuallymade a phone call, you could
have sent a certified letter,you could have sent an email to
the proper chains of command tomake a bigger impact through the
proper chains of command tomake a bigger impact.
So instead of them banning youfrom coming to their restaurant,
now they may get investigatedon their policies with their
(34:00):
patrons.
Yeah, so when we talk about that, that's what we mean, I don't
know, we may circle back, Idon't know, jay but listen we
want everyone to be encouragedto take part in your community,
you know, find out what's goingon first, your neighborhood,
(34:23):
your mom's neighborhood, youraunt, your baby mama or your
baby daddy.
These things are trulyimportant because that's how
you'll be affected first.
That will be how you areaffected first.
What goes on in yourneighborhood that you didn't
know about, that you could haveknown about.
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So we just want to encourageyou guys Do you do diligence,
open-minded, and really looktowards the future and see how
you can make an impact now,because every vote counts, every
individual counts, and so hey,look, hey, we love you guys, we
appreciate your support.
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Hey, and keep voting for us.
That's right, pops and son.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
All right, welcome to another episode.
It is July.
It's one of those months ofindependence and I would say
politics, Jay.
When I think about July, Ithink of a lot of politics going
on.
What do you think about?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, yeah.
I think about the politics, thepatriotism, all that good stuff
, America, everything like that.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, homer the free and the brave, supposedly.
Look, this is what we wanted todo for you guys here in the
month of July.
We want to talk, notnecessarily politics, but we
wanted to talk about community.
We wanted to talk about youknow, the neighborhood.
(01:02):
We want to talk about what waslearned, what was taught when it
came to politics, you know, notjust the president, but your
city councilman, uh, your mayor,your governor, jay, when, when
you was in school I would say,let's say, elementary school
(01:23):
what was the temperature when itcame to talking about politics
did?
Did they talk about you know,your local councilman, or was it
just straight up?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
president, vice president nah, it was just uh,
yeah, it was just president,president, vice president,
didn't really go too deep intoanything past that.
So yeah, it was just mainly,mainly presidential election and
we actually did like a mock.
I remember doing that a fewtimes like a mock presidential
(01:57):
election, like we were voting,but of course we were too young,
but just, I guess, to kind ofencourage us to do it when we
got older.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But just, I guess, to kind of encourage us to do it
when we got older.
Yeah, I guess also to get aconsensus to see what the
influence was in the household.
So they were slick, trying tofigure out what was going on.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, I see, I didn't even think about it like that,
but you're 100% right.
Oh, yeah, yeah, it was stillsomething to talk about.
You know amongst the peers Likeoh, who you voting for and this
, that and the third.
So yeah, interesting,interesting, take little social
experiment, I guess.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, most definitely was.
So I want to go ahead and justkind of jump right in.
You know and let me put adisclaimer out here you know the
conversation that we're talkingabout is, you know, primarily
us men.
You know just kind ofdiscussing what we were taught,
what we weren't taught, whatwe've learned.
You know, just when it comes tocommunity and representation,
(02:54):
because you know it's very tabooin social media to talk
politics, but the world isrevolved or revolves around
politics, right, Like you can'teven help it.
You hear about the presidentand and the uh news, you know,
talks about what goes on in thegovernment.
(03:16):
So it can't be that taboo ifit's pushed in your face every
single day.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh yeah, right, so there's no way to get around it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So I think if we, if we get ahead of it, you know we
can encourage, you know, ourlisteners, those households and
just people in general, to get agood consensus of you know what
to expect, the expectationsthat that aren't really
discussed.
So let's do it.
(03:47):
I think we should kind of callit like beyond the ballot box or
something like that.
That's a lot of B's man Triple.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
B's Alliteration.
I like it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah.
So let's do that, man.
Let's just talk about realquick voting and what that
really means.
Like I mentioned earlier, youknow, of course we were too
young in high school and thingslike that, but there's always
been a democracy or a votingprocess in whatever institution
(04:16):
we're talking about and I'mtalking about whether it is in
the community, whether it's inthe schools, colleges, you know
the educational system, townhalls, things like that.
So we deal with voting and wedeal with elections all day long
.
So let's kind of talk about,you know, what does voting
(04:39):
really mean?
Like, is it really important?
And we'll just kind of, we'lljust navigate through this thing
here.
So let's just jump into it.
Jay, so has voting?
When you think about voting,what are some of the first
things that come to mind?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Definitely will be the presidential election.
I mean, I feel like my, myframe of reference, just just
when it comes to voting ingeneral.
You know, I came up and fun,funny enough, there was some
interesting campaigns going, uhgoing on, and not just like, uh,
you know, by the government,but also just like in hip-hop
and media, like I remember suchthing as a voter die.
(05:19):
You know, I saw that uh, a lotcoming up.
So you know you had people like, um, I saw that a lot coming up
.
So you know you have peoplelike Jeezy and Puff Daddy kind
of pushing and I guess just kindof trying to raise awareness
about voting.
So to me that was kind of thefirst time that my ears really
perked up to it.
I'm like, ok, you know what'sthis all about, but it took me a
(05:41):
good while to really understandthe gravity of it and the
importance I feel like when Iwas younger it was just like one
of those things that I feltlike I could worry about.
When I got older, you know whatI'm saying Like, okay, yeah,
y'all talking about voting this,that and the third, but how has
it affected me?
What is it going to do for me?
(06:02):
And it really didn't kick inuntil I, you know, I kind of had
to start doing my own research,learning about, you know,
different offices and differentthings that go on in the
community and how my voteactually matters Not so much or
not necessarily when it comes to, you know, the overall, the
(06:24):
presidential election and thingslike that.
But local elections, you knowcity council, like you mentioned
, the mayor, even so far as likethe school board, and you know,
I kind of got a better graspwhen you hear the gossip, you
know what I'm saying, or youhear about who's running for
this, or you start to see adcampaigns around the city and
(06:48):
you hear certain people talkabout certain people or
candidates or whatever the caseis, and so then it really kind
of got my brain working.
It's like, okay, everybody'stalking about this, this has to
be something important, and Imean the truth of the matter is
it's extremely important becausein the community, if we want to
see any type of progress,change or anything like that, we
(07:13):
have to be well for one.
We got to do that first off.
So anybody feels like voting isa waste of time.
You know it couldn't be furtherfrom the truth.
This is how we operate, youknow, as a democracy.
(07:34):
That's just how, how we're setup.
You know, we, we, we cast theseballots, we vote, and that is
how we affect change in oursurroundings and in our
environment.
So, um, you know, it doesn't,it's, it's not an
individualistic thing.
It really takes numbers andcommunity to you know, to make
change.
And yeah, that's the votingright, right.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So so, before we even dig in because you just kind of
uh, hybrid in the conversation,before we dig in too far, I
think when we talk about voting,um, it's, it's imperative that
we talk about the actual rightto vote.
Uh, we have to dig into that um, because, of course, my
(08:19):
generation I'm a 70s baby youknow and and uh, you know and
and uh, you know, my parents, ofcourse, were born in the
forties, in the forties.
So when you, when you thinkabout that, when you put that,
uh, the perspective from fromthat angle, you know, just
actually having the right tovote, uh, people of color, um,
(08:41):
women's rights, you know civilrights and things like that, I
think that's when you have toreally take a look at the
severity of understanding whatvoting is, what voting does,
because you know where we arenow, you know, like you said, I
mean, there's some people thatfeel like it's not going to make
(09:03):
a difference or not, but youhave to really look at what our
ancestors did to positionourselves to be able to vote
Right.
So you know, folks of color,again, not having to say so, of
what goes on or evenunderstanding what that process
(09:23):
is.
I think you know, when we starttalking about history lessons,
when it comes down to voting inthat process, we really have to
look at it as a community.
And when you break it down as acommunity, of course we're just
talking about our ownneighborhood.
So when you start talking abouthaving a neighborhood watch or
(09:46):
just kind of having some type ofinfrastructure within your
neighborhood, having somebodythat's going to be the main
person in the neighborhood toreport to and then empowering
the other communities andhouseholds so that we know
exactly what's going on and wehave some checks and balances,
you know, I feel like that isextremely important when we talk
(10:09):
about the importance of voting,the structure of voting and the
actual ability to vote.
So you know, even with theelection day, when you think
about that, you know it's, it'sannual, like when you talk about
the presidential, thepresidency campaign.
(10:29):
But you know we have.
What we need to understand alsois you know the mayor, the
governor, you know people indifferent districts and I really
wish that even for me, I wasmore versed in even
understanding what that lookslike and I know for a fact here
(10:52):
in 2025, ain't nobody breakingdown or if they are breaking
down, ain't nobody breaking down, or if they are breaking down,
it ain't going viral and folksain't really putting that as
priority as far as informationis needed, but I really wish
that we did a better job, jay.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, I agree it's not going to be as popular,
but you know that's.
That's just one of those thingsthat I don't know.
If it's, you know, just amatter of you know happenstance
or whatever the case is, maybepeople really aren't interested,
maybe the awareness isn't there.
But when I say that, I can'teven imagine that because, like
(11:31):
I said, I remember so manydifferent times where I was
exposed just to voting period,like the importance of it, like
I mentioned earlier, like thevoter die thing and like so
people know about voting, theyknow that there is an importance
there, but I'm not a hundredpercent sure how we could get
the you know the turnover to behigher or just to get people to
(11:54):
take it more, more seriously.
Like you said, I think a lot ofpeople look at it as something
boring, they kind of check out.
I hear a lot of people saypolitics they aren't into
politics, which is a crazy thingto say, but that's just how a
lot of people feel.
They don't care about what'sgoing on in the government,
(12:15):
what's going on in the community.
They're kind of more on theindividual uh path, which I mean
honestly, I wasn't gonna sayit's cool, but it's really not
cool because at the end of theday, it's a detriment to the
whole the, the overall community.
So, uh yeah, people just gottaget more, more in tune and want
to see better for everybody, notjust yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I tell you, what is even more interesting for me is
when you think about theinfluence or even the
conversation about how importantvoting is and the elections and
things like that.
Take a look at the communityright.
(12:58):
Certain communities have andthis is really funny.
So think about when you go pastor you go into neighborhoods
that have these huge homes andestates and things like that.
And, mark, and let me know ifI'm wrong or not but when you go
and you see those type ofneighborhoods and communities,
(13:19):
don't they have a lot of signsin their yard?
Jay.
Don't they let you know exactlywho they're voting for and who
they are who they want.
You know they want to let youknow.
Maybe the uh, not so, um, youknow.
(13:44):
When it comes to you know,money, let's just be real about
it.
When it comes to you know whatclasses maybe lower class, um,
middle class, that type of thingthey don't want no signs in
their yard.
They don't want you to know whothey're voting for.
It's a secret, right?
It's a secret about who they'revoting for.
It's a secret about you knowthe stand that they're taking,
(14:09):
right, because they associatethat candidate with every single
thing, every singlerepresentation of their
household.
Now, I don't think that there'sany candidate that you agree
100% with their policies.
It's impossible.
I'm not going to agree 100%, butI think just standing on
(14:29):
something shows unity.
It also shows that you arepositioning yourself to take a
stance, long term and short term.
I think that is so importantbecause now you start looking uh
at um other potential people inposition right, it's never just
(14:53):
x for president, x for vicepresident and the uh
superintendent.
You start seeing the mayor, youstart seeing district.
(15:15):
You know negating theimportance of voting but really
just educating on elections andhow it's going to impact our
schools, our roads.
You know, especially our roadsright, especially here in
Atlanta, man home of thepotholes, right Home of the
(15:37):
potholes, right Home of thepotholes.
man, I hate to say that, butAtlanta, city of Atlanta, home
of the potholes.
But yeah, you know, just, youknow our libraries and things
that we don't think about.
And all of a sudden, you knowwe get bent out of shape when we
see things that are coming inour community that we probably
wouldn't condone if we had tosay so.
(15:58):
All of this stuff is a part ofthe election.
It's a part of the localelection.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
You know, a lot of stuff is right here in plain
sight that we don't payattention to yeah, and I want to
add on to something about thethat you know, the paradox that
you mentioned about thedifference between lower income
communities and more affluentareas is about that silence,
(16:26):
right?
Look at how.
So, when you think about it,groups this is how groups work.
They have a louder voice thanindividuals, right?
So anytime a community ralliestogether around an issue, that
creates the pressure, thatbrings the attention, and it
forces those leaders to listen.
(16:46):
So what those communities aredoing by having those signs all
over the place like that, it'snot just for show, it's to let
people know yo, this communityright here stands for this, and
we're putting pressure on thesetypes of issues that we want to
see in our community.
So, uh, what's messed up aboutit, though, is that if you don't
(17:08):
, if you, if you don't do that,then basically, what you're
saying is you're beingcompletely silent and you don't
have any uh, uh, anything topoint out about the community.
You don't want anything fixed.
You don't have a leader thatyou maybe even want to vote for
or show support for that couldbring some type of fix to the
community.
So what happens is thecommunity involvement, a lot of
(17:33):
times, is even where we see thenext generation of leaders right
.
A lot of these leaders aretoday.
You know.
They may have been in their SGAin school or they may have been
an activist in their youngeryears, going to rallies and
things like that.
It's how people get theirexperience and learn how to
collaborate when it comes toleadership.
(17:56):
So, yeah, I just had to add onto that man, because when you
were saying I'm like that's agreat point, but it also just
shows, you know, it's like theproof is in the pudding.
You can't be afraid just to saywho you support.
You know what I'm saying.
That shouldn't be somethingthat's taboo.
It's the complete opposite ofwhat we should do in order to,
(18:20):
because, also, when you seethose signs, it's like those
people know, you know it's like,okay, that's Kenfolk, right
there.
You know, at the end of the day, it's like it's literal
community.
So, yeah, I just want to addthat point about it.
Yeah, I just want to add thatpoint about it.
Maybe you know, just by sayingthat, like that could spark the
(18:41):
change and maybe people startthinking differently about those
yard signs or those flags orbumper stickers or whatever the
case, like it's no shame inshowing support for a political
leader that you want to see makesome change in your community.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Right and you know, also, I kind of miss the, you
know, the community raising upthe leaders.
It's kind of like you knowthere's people that families are
in politics, like you know,started out with the great
granddad.
Maybe he was the mayor and then, and then the granddad, you
know, maybe he was the governorand then city councilman and and
the senator.
Like you know that type ofsituation and I think that you
know people of color in ourcommunity.
We are making strides when itcomes to having our feet and
(19:35):
hands in politics.
You know there's some wonderfulpoliticians, even here in
Atlanta, you know Warnock, mayorDickens, andre Dickens.
We have great representationand the important part about
(19:57):
that is really getting a chanceto know who they are Like.
We have opportunities to go toevents.
Now, one thing I'll say aboutMayor Andre Dickens he's
accessible.
Now, I ain't saying you go upthere and shake his hand without
security, you know, puttingyour arm behind your back, but
I'm saying he's in the field.
He's in the field.
(20:18):
I remember myself and mybusiness partner we had went to
I think it was a fundraiser andit kind of help you with, you
know, being stressed and being,you know, one of those
(20:47):
mechanisms that you can use to.
You know, have some type ofstress relief and things like
that.
And you know he was there, hewas mixing and mingling.
Now he got up in there, saidwhat he said and he rolled out.
But but for the most partthough, he was there and you
wouldn't think that he wouldhave been at that type of event.
But he does move around.
(21:07):
So I give him a big shout out.
He does move around in thecommunity, the city of Atlanta.
You know he's real heavy onmaking sure that he is reachable
, especially when it comes downto, you know, community issues.
So I give him that.
But I do want to just kind ofstep into the danger of of when
(21:29):
people don't vote Right, when,when you're the type this is
like my vote doesn't matter, Idon't really care, they're going
to pick whoever they want, thattype of thing.
I think, jay, that theirmindset is so far detached of
what really matters locally.
Like you can't really trip onthe presidency.
(21:52):
You understand the electoralcollege and I know that people
kind of look at that and say,okay, it's, it's already in
position.
But one thing you can do forsure is your local officials.
You can make sure that yourvoice is heard right that
there's offices that peopledon't even know about, that are
(22:14):
down the street from them, whereyou can go in.
You can file a complaint aboutwhat's going on in your
neighborhood.
You can file a complaint youknow about the sheriff's office
or the city of, or whatever youknow.
Whatever facility is going onyou can go and file a complaint
about.
You know the school district,the schools, what's going on,
(22:35):
and you know people go to liketo school.
Here's what's wild, here'swhat's going on, and you know
people go to like to school.
Here's what's wild, here'swhat's wild.
People go to the school andcomplain to the people at the
school.
That's that's what this, thesoup, you know the
superintendent's for, that'swhat the the uh board of
(22:57):
education and things like that.
Look, man, that's like youcoming to my restaurant and
telling me, hey, I don't likewhat's going on here, I want
change.
I'm like, okay, write down yourcomplaint and I'll take it and
I'll file it and we'll get ittaken care of.
Versus going to the BetterBusiness Bureau or going to your
(23:21):
local business and saying, hey,man, something may write about
this restaurant.
Look into it.
Like if you come to me and yousay there's an issue.
You know I'm just going topacify you for that time being.
You know, figuratively speaking, right, but they'll just pacify
you for that time being.
So I think it's so importantthat people understand the chain
(23:44):
of command.
You know, that's my militarycoming out right, but the chain
of command, uh, the checks andbalances of what goes on and why
voting is so significant.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Another reason is just, I meanrepresentation, right, if, if
you're not voting, you know this.
This is how I think about it.
If, if you're not voting,you're just one of those people
that are in a classroom notvoting.
You're just one of those peoplethat are in the classroom and I
don't know, you know if y'allremember this, but you know they
(24:17):
would do a vote for what wewanted for uh, for for lunch or
or whatever the case is.
And if, right, if you don'tvote, then you just getting
whatever.
You know, the majority is likeyour, your, your vote matters
because you want to see sometype of representation of
yourself and and what you wantin the overall uh policies that
(24:40):
that that are being um added.
So, people that don't vote, forone reason you, you can't go
anywhere and try to complainabout anything if.
If you didn't vote, you're apart of the.
You're literally a part of thereason you're complaining about
things that may be going on, butyou didn't do anything to try
(25:01):
to help change that right.
So I mean, that's just one ofthe things.
And then you mentioned earlierabout how our ancestors man we
went through so much earlier,about how our ancestors.
Man, we went through so much,especially black people we went
through so much to get thisright to vote.
It makes no sense not toutilize it and not exercise that
(25:23):
right.
I mean, think about it.
They do stuff that you know.
Laws can be overturned, there'sthings that can be taken away.
There's different rights thatcan be.
You know what I'm saying.
If you aren't exercising yourright, they will literally take
(25:43):
it from you, and that'ssomething that's wild to think
about, you know.
Then you have extremists, right.
That's another side of notvoting.
If you're not voting, then thatleads way to maybe some radical
person with all these crazyideals that they're able to
(26:09):
rally up enough people to votefor them, and now they do.
I mean, you know I'm notpointing no fingers, but you
know they, they're able to rallyup enough people to vote for
them, and now they do.
I mean, you know I'm notpointing fingers, but you know
Trump, you know what I'm saying.
Like you got people that areable to to galvanize voters get
in office and start making thesedifferent changes and laws that
do not represent you whatsoeverlaws that do not represent you
(26:35):
whatsoever.
But because you sat back,because you felt like your vote
didn't count because you feltlike you know it didn't matter
and you basically going with theflow.
I mean you know you can't beupset at the outcome of that.
So, yeah, voting is tooimportant.
I mean it's understated.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I agree 1000%.
Uh, look, you know, this is oneof those conversations that we
can do, uh, over and over Um,it's one of those conversations
that never gets old.
The importance of it istimeless.
Um, before we wrap this up, jay, I do want to talk about a few
things.
I want to talk about theimportance of not only voting
(27:17):
but your voice and actually, youknow, leaving a legacy, because
when you think about it, whenyou make a decision because
that's what voting is aboutVoting is about making a
decision, standing behind it andmaking sure that you see
through the outcome.
(27:38):
Right, you don't just vote andthen just, you know, go away
Like, ok, I did my thing,hopefully it works out.
You have to continue to not onlyencourage the community to vote
, but stand for something, andeven if you don't get the
outcome of the result, thatdoesn't mean give up, that
doesn't mean that there's nohope, that doesn't mean that,
(28:01):
because who you wanted torepresent you isn't there, that
you can't make an impact in yourcommunity, your community.
And so I think that those aresome very key points that we
have to continue to encourageeach other to, you know, move
forward with and reallyunderstand and really just
encouraging that entireconversation within the family
(28:23):
Because, as we mentioned earlierin the show, it's been taboo
for centuries.
Let's not talk about politics,let's not talk about what goes
on in the news.
If you feel this way about acandidate and I feel that a
different candidate is theanswer then we're not going to
have a conversation, because wedon't want to battle, we don't
(28:46):
want to have a house that'sdivided, and you know that's the
complete opposite, because Ithink it'll challenge us to
really look at what are thebullet points, what are some of
the main factors that you feelare important, and so you take
(29:06):
those things there and then yousee if your candidate stands
behind your values, standsbehind your perspective and
really understand the communitythat you're in.
So I think that those thingsare extremely important.
So I would ask you, like youknow, what do you think one of
(29:29):
the things that listeners todaycan do more to be more engaged
in the entire process andconversation?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Definitely.
Actually, here I got you.
So number one.
If you don't know if you areregistered, I definitely would
go ahead and check that.
Make sure you are registered tovote.
That's number one and then juststart doing some research.
I mean, that's another big thingabout this.
(30:02):
Voting is 100% important, butanother aspect of it is knowing
who you're voting for and whatthey stand for and what their
policies, and you know how orhow not how well you may align
with them.
You know what I'm saying andthat's, and that's another thing
.
Yeah, we talk about thecommunity, but the individual
(30:22):
part of it is about how youpersonally feel.
Right, you don't need to justhop on a bandwagon and just do
what everybody else is doing.
That's good bandwagon and justdo what everybody else is doing,
like figure out you know whichcandidate aligns most with you,
and that's how you make makemake your decision.
But it's it's gotta be researchfor number one.
(30:42):
And then, of course, you knowyou gotta be registered.
So double, double check on thatand then.
And then, yeah, just do someresearch.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Matter of fact, check three times right, and then,
yeah, just do some research.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Matter of fact, check three times.
Right, that's right.
Check three times.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, yeah, I think that you know you made some
really good points and you knowwe also have to understand that.
You know, different generationsfeel different ways.
You know you may have somegenerations here that are like
you know what.
It doesn't really make adifference, why even try?
But then you also have tounderstand the people that
(31:17):
fought and have seen theprogress of the rights to vote.
They're like what are you doing?
What are you doing?
What are you talking about?
Like, if you look at it fromthe first level I don't want to
say the lowest level, becauseall are important but if you
look at it at the first level inyour community, do people
(31:41):
really know that you can pickwho the sheriff is, who your
sheriff is?
People aren't thinking aboutthat.
Do you know how much influenceyou can have on who the mayor is
?
A lot of times we're I don'twant to say stuck, but we
continue to have the same peoplein office because no one is
(32:05):
voting.
And it could have been acomplete 180 if you just woke up
and saw the importance ofvoting.
Like, if you don't, if youdon't like what's around you,
you can change it by being apart of it.
And and here's what's wild jay,and we're almost out of time,
right, but this is why I want toget off.
(32:25):
This is what I really want tomake sure that we go.
We will rally behind gettingshoes.
We will rally behind gettingshoes.
We will rally behind gettingconcert tickets.
We will boycott restaurants,man.
We will rally behind a clothingstore Do not come here anymore.
(32:54):
We don't like.
You know.
They said something about usand they treat us a certain way
and and said that you know wedon't take cash here.
We will rally behind that.
Go all around Facebook, all thesocial media outlets, to to try
to trash a small business.
(33:15):
Meanwhile, you're not evenvoting or you're not even taking
the time to do your duediligence or the effort to meet
who your city council person is.
Imagine being able to just makea phone call to your city
councilman, instead of yourisking your life up there.
(33:36):
Or you know they call thepolice on you because you
disturbing the peace.
When you could have actuallymade a phone call, you could
have sent a certified letter,you could have sent an email to
the proper chains of command tomake a bigger impact through the
proper chains of command tomake a bigger impact.
So instead of them banning youfrom coming to their restaurant,
now they may get investigatedon their policies with their
(34:00):
patrons.
Yeah, so when we talk about that, that's what we mean, I don't
know, we may circle back, Idon't know, jay but listen we
want everyone to be encouragedto take part in your community,
you know, find out what's goingon first, your neighborhood,
(34:23):
your mom's neighborhood, youraunt, your baby mama or your
baby daddy.
These things are trulyimportant because that's how
you'll be affected first.
That will be how you areaffected first.
What goes on in yourneighborhood that you didn't
know about, that you could haveknown about.
(34:43):
So we just want to encourageyou guys Do you do diligence,
open-minded, and really looktowards the future and see how
you can make an impact now,because every vote counts, every
individual counts, and so hey,look, hey, we love you guys, we
appreciate your support.
(35:03):
Hey, and keep voting for us.
That's right, pops and son.
So hey, look, we're signing out.
Check us every episode, butmake sure, if you didn't hear us
last episode, go ahead and hitthat button, listen to the
previous episode and we'll seeyou guys next time.
It's your favorite self.
Fox, rob and Roy.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
And I'm double checking, check again, check
three times baby.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Pops and Son conversations.
See you guys next time.
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