February 27, 2025 • 19 mins
What does it mean when child support becomes more than just a financial obligation? Join us in this episode of Pops and Son Conversations as Rob Malloy and Javan, tackle the intricate dynamics of child support that go beyond the numbers. We promise to shed light on how this critical issue can shape parental relationships and the bond with children. Discover the distinct perceptions mothers and fathers hold about child support and how the involvement of enforcement agencies can signal more than just a lack of financial support. This conversation encourages clear communication and fair arrangements to prevent emotional and financial strains when agreements collapse.
We dive deep into the challenges posed by legal enforcement, revealing how amicable agreements can spiral into an intrusive audit of financial privacy. We'll explore scenarios where personal arrangements fail, prompting agencies to scrutinize every financial move, and how this can affect your lifestyle. With candid insights, we aim to provide a balanced perspective on the contentious issue of child support, emphasizing understanding and cooperation for the benefit of all parties involved. Tune in to gain a comprehensive understanding of this multifaceted topic and how it impacts the lives of both parents and children.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
okay, guys, welcome back.
We have another amazing episodepops and son conversations and
of course, it's your favoritesilver fox, rob malloy.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey, what up pops amen yeah, son here, son, here,
son here.
So we got um today what wetalking about um, you know what
I think?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I think we can finish up, um, and hit that, that next
section, uh, with the childsupport man, let's, let's go
ahead and let's wrap thatconversation let's, yeah, let's
wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Um, you know, last, the last part, we got into child
support.
You know, is it enough?
And you know we really actuallygot a lot.
We covered a lot of ground, youknow.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
And.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I learned.
You put me on a few things.
I learned about the differencein the enforcement and you know
the actual just.
You know the idea of childsupport, like there's a
distinction there, the actualjust.
You know the idea of childsupport, like there's a
distinction there.
And we talked about how, youknow, mothers might see it one
way and fathers see it acompletely different way.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Okay, true that, true that you know what I like, that
, jay, let's go here.
I think, one of the things thatwe did not address, which is
equally important, because allof it is important, because it
affects everyone, right, solet's just talk about, you know
how it affects the overallrelationship of both parents and
(01:35):
how it affects the overallrelationship with the child,
because going and getting, uh,you know the agency involved
number one in my opinion and uh,to your point, it's basically
saying that, uh, somebody ain'tdoing what they need to be doing
(01:56):
from a financial standpoint.
Okay, let's, let's be veryclear from a financial
standpoint, because you can bespending a lot of time with the
kid, right, you can have itevery other week or whatever the
arrangement that you guys puttogether.
You could be doing that.
But if there is a certainnumber that is not coming into
(02:18):
the household of the one thathas the child, most often that
can be an issue.
Like you, you can't get thechild enough to where you still
got to pay something.
There has to be some moneyinvolved yeah, either way it go
right yeah, that's to be somemoney either way.
(02:38):
So the thing about it is you mayinitially have an agreement of.
You know what you know.
You know when I get paid.
You know when I get paid, babe,you know what I'm saying.
Like, you know what that man ismaking, so you know it's going
to be every paycheck I'm goingto give you $150.
And if he's out there, you knowhustling and stuff like that
(02:59):
legally, then you know it may beless, it may be more, so you
have to come up with a number.
Then you know it may be less,it may be more, so you have to
come up with a number of and ofcourse, this is uh, an agreement
this isn't paperwork, right,right.
so so you're doing that, but atthe same time, if you don't come
up with that number, uh, ifsomething happens to where you
(03:21):
guys don't see eye to eye andoutside of the child rearing
process and co-parenting process, she may feel some type of way
and be like OK, you know, youthought you was good with the
150 a week or the 300.
You know what I'm going to getthem folks and them folks is
going to basically be extremelyintrusive in your lifestyle,
(03:45):
right?
So now you got eyes.
Now you got eyes on what you do.
Now you got eyes on your taxes,your tax returns.
Now you got eyes.
They're looking in thedepartment of labor.
Okay, how much money is beingreported so we can use that.
We can look at that.
Now they send you an affidavitabout hey, you better let us
know what you got going on, bruh.
Yeah, how you signing that forDover's man.
(04:06):
And come on, that's toointrusive.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's intrusive, and then it's just.
I mean, it's flat out, it's notfair.
And I'm not saying life is fair, but I mean what other type of
circumstance does default underlike this type of audit of your
finances?
You know what I mean like, isthere any like this?
This is this sounds crazy to me, and especially if you're going
(04:33):
to talk about how you'realready you know you in, you're
in a child's life, right, youknow, just just to think about
how that you know that couldeven occur is just's just crazy.
And one of the things we didn'ttalk about was just how it
affects the financial stabilityof the paying parent.
So even now Because I'mthinking of a scenario where
(04:57):
it's like, all right, you'redoing everything, you've got the
agreement with the parent, andmaybe the agreement was enough
to where you could still stashyou a little bit and still make
way and do the things that youneed for yourself as well as for
your child, but now, when theenforcement comes, now you don't
(05:19):
even have enough to kind of todo what you need to do you can't
even maneuver, you can't reallyyeah, you, you can't maneuver
like you need right.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Um man, that's a really good point, jay.
So to piggyback off of that,though, you also have to look at
the household is now split.
If they were together Hopefullythey were together what was
that dynamic prior to the split?
You know what I'm saying.
Maybe you got the lifestylethat you guys had.
(05:47):
Somebody had to make a littlebit more.
Maybe it was her, maybe shemade a little bit more so that
that guy, that father, can workin a specific industry.
He could be a little bit moreflexible to you know not be
corporate, you know what I'msaying or be able to make.
You know cash.
Maybe you know entrepreneurtype situation.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Right, right, cause it balances out.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right To balance it out.
And so now you know she hasthat, that structured income,
which a lot of women have, thatand need that, which is
important, especially if theyhave the child, you know, with
them the majority of the time,because there's you know,
there's programs and stuff outthere, Right, it looks great on
paper, Right, so, yeah, cool.
But again, you know thatdynamic must have been, you know
(06:37):
, he the one out there doing histhing or whatever and bringing
on that why she does that.
So now that they're busted up,he may now have to go to a more
structured situation and that'sgoing to push him back because,
yeah, he may have been makingsome, you know some great money,
whether it be cash or whateverthe way he's doing it, but now
he might have to go get a nineto five.
That really is going to set himback.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, it's going to limit him more than anything.
Yeah, so now he's limited and,like you said, he has to find a
new way to maneuver.
And I mean one of the thingsthat's kind of like a
trickle-down effect is like, doyou judge, like how do you even
quantify, whether this is abetter position for the dad to
(07:22):
be in as far as his ability toprovide for the kid?
Like, is it better for him tobe in this limited space where
he has to figure out andmaneuver and do all this?
Or, you know, was it a betteroutcome when he was, like you
said, like you know, getting hismoney as an entrepreneur?
(07:42):
Right non-traditional right,Non-traditional ways, exactly
Like I mean, these are justthings that you have to, that
you should try to account forbefore the enforcement is
involved, Because still theparent has to, you know, figure
it out, and then it's likeeverything is going to affect
(08:04):
the kid at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Everything is going to affect the kid at the end of
the day.
So when you talk about thefather because of course we're
both fathers, so our standpointis going to be let's just be
very clear this is a pops andson conversation.
This isn't a mom and sonconversation.
This isn't a mom and daughterconversation.
Ok, this is.
This is from our point of view.
(08:27):
So now you have to think abouthow can the father actually
maintain an active role in thechild's life now that he's on
this structured child supportenforcement program structured
child support enforcementprogram.
So that's why we're being veryspecific when we talk about the
child support enforcement, rightand so from let's just, let's
(08:49):
just talk about from anemotional standpoint, what does
that do to a father that hasbeen active, right, that is
doing, you know, whatever he canto make the child feel
appreciated, loved.
And I'm talking about time, I'mjust talking about time effort,
(09:10):
you know, being thereemotionally for that child,
creating milestones and memories.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Naturally.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And now you basically transactional, yeah that's
transactional for the mom yeah,it stings because, think about
it.
Now he's looking at well it,now he's looking at the
conversation of where is themoney?
(09:40):
That conversation is going toovershadow when you're going to
pick him up.
Because, think about it, if youdon't pick him up but you're
still dropping $2,500, I mean$2,500 a month she may not miss
him because that's enough moneyfor her to do what she needs to
(10:02):
do.
You can pay for a sitter, right,or you can take it to mom's or
granddad house.
Come on now, right, and thenyou can go do what you need to
do versus.
He can come every single week,two, three times a week, but if
you're not paying x amount ofdollars, then one of them days,
one of them weeks, you're tryingpaying X amount of dollars in
(10:23):
one of them days, one of themweeks, you're trying to come
through and you ain't make yourpayment.
It's like the creditor youhaven't made your payment, so we
suspending the access.
Your account is temporarilysuspended.
It's a non-payment.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
No balance, man, you got.
No, you know oh my God.
Can't see the kid man, that's.
But yeah, that's a conundrumLike it gets so complicated.
You know that's.
The only thing I know is likethere's so many different
scenarios and ways that it worksLike there's not even a a, a,
one, one, one situation.
(11:05):
You know there's a lot of waysthat it can just not be a good
look.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, you're right, man, um, you know, but, but but
we still have to, you know, tryto figure this thing out.
And I think if we go back tothe roots again, if we go back
to the roots of how thisrelationship started how did
this child get here Then I thinkthat the accountability goes on
(11:40):
both parents.
Like dude, I mean, that's stillyour child, right?
Like ma'am, that's still hischild.
Because you got to think aboutthe conversation, how it goes.
You're not coming to pick up mybaby, my baby don't need you,
I'm going to be all right, meand my baby going to be good
Every, every, every singlesituation where they're not
(12:06):
together.
In my opinion, and y'all let meknow if I'm wrong, go to all my
social medias, yeah, and let meknow if I'm wrong.
But every woman at least onetime, has said me and my baby
going to be all right To thefather of your child, even if
y'all are married.
Come on, I'm not talking abouttwo griping parents going back
(12:31):
and forth.
I'm talking about every singlemother Done said Me and my baby,
we going to be fine.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Have you ever heard that before?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Jay, yeah, I heard it before.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And I'm not even saying directly, I'm saying
indirectly yeah, all I need isthe ladies to be like you know
what I'm saying at least onetime.
Me and my baby are going to befine.
You said that to your husband.
Again, it goes to again how didthat child get here?
Did you guys plan thispregnancy?
(13:05):
And I say pregnancy first,because that's where the
relationship starts, that'swhere the relationship, the baby
, don't pop out and then you'relike, hey, man, welcome.
You should have been sayingthat when she was on swole,
right.
So that's where therelationship starts.
So now you have to think aboutDuring the pregnancy period,
(13:30):
what was the relationship like?
Did you go back?
And again we talked about?
You guys got to go back andlisten to part one when we
talked about this, because wetalked about the, the origin of
the child and the uhrelationship during the
pregnancy, during the uh, whenyou found out you was pregnant
(13:51):
oh, yeah, yeah, that yeah thetwo.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
What happened then?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
two, two different questions and reactions going on
man, they're gonna have tolisten to part one and then part
two obviously will make a wholelot more sense for you guys.
So, uh, that being said, jackman, we, we just gonna look, man
, we're just gonna put a hardstop until we get a guest.
(14:15):
We'll probably get a guest.
When we talk about we'll get a,we can get a lady.
You want to get a lady on here,man?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
yeah, I want to.
I definitely want to get amother and I want to try to find
some.
You know, some examples of thechild support where you know
father is active and payingchild support and everything is
good like I want to see thatyeah, that's a fact we got
(14:42):
because it's I mean, it's somuch negative, like it don't got
to be bad.
All right, you're paying childsupport, but you and baby moms
is good.
Y'all got child agreement orwhatever and there's no
enforcement.
Like, let's find some of that,let's try to get that in the
community.
Let's you know what I'm saying,because, hey, it don't always
work out.
We understand that, cool.
But if y'all working to makesure that the kid is seeing a
(15:05):
good example of the two parentsco-parenting, hey, man, we got
to salute that.
We got to see more of that.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I agree, hey, I agree .
Look, we going to do a hardstop.
We want you guys again to goahead and check out part one.
Even if you listen to thisfirst, it's cool, but go listen
to part one.
We talked about child support,everything, uh that encompasses
(15:33):
the relationship, uh, the, themother, the father, you know, uh
, co-parenting aspects of it.
But yeah, when we deal withchild support, of course course
you know there's differentaspects, but we dealt with what
y'all wanted us to deal with themoney, the money.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
The money.
That's what matters, man.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
So look, man, hey, we appreciate you guys supporting
everything Pops and Sonconversations.
We're going to keep doing it.
We're going to keep giving youeverything that you need.
It's your favorite show Fox,rob and Lloyd.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
All right, y'all meet us here at the same time next
week.
Do not miss it.
We out, we gone.
okay, guys, welcome back.
We have another amazing episodepops and son conversations and
of course, it's your favoritesilver fox, rob malloy.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey, what up pops amen yeah, son here, son, here,
son here.
So we got um today what wetalking about um, you know what
I think?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I think we can finish up, um, and hit that, that next
section, uh, with the childsupport man, let's, let's go
ahead and let's wrap thatconversation let's, yeah, let's
wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Um, you know, last, the last part, we got into child
support.
You know, is it enough?
And you know we really actuallygot a lot.
We covered a lot of ground, youknow.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
And.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I learned.
You put me on a few things.
I learned about the differencein the enforcement and you know
the actual just.
You know the idea of childsupport, like there's a
distinction there, the actualjust.
You know the idea of childsupport, like there's a
distinction there.
And we talked about how, youknow, mothers might see it one
way and fathers see it acompletely different way.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Okay, true that, true that you know what I like, that
, jay, let's go here.
I think, one of the things thatwe did not address, which is
equally important, because allof it is important, because it
affects everyone, right, solet's just talk about, you know
how it affects the overallrelationship of both parents and
(01:35):
how it affects the overallrelationship with the child,
because going and getting, uh,you know the agency involved
number one in my opinion and uh,to your point, it's basically
saying that, uh, somebody ain'tdoing what they need to be doing
(01:56):
from a financial standpoint.
Okay, let's, let's be veryclear from a financial
standpoint, because you can bespending a lot of time with the
kid, right, you can have itevery other week or whatever the
arrangement that you guys puttogether.
You could be doing that.
But if there is a certainnumber that is not coming into
(02:18):
the household of the one thathas the child, most often that
can be an issue.
Like you, you can't get thechild enough to where you still
got to pay something.
There has to be some moneyinvolved yeah, either way it go
right yeah, that's to be somemoney either way.
(02:38):
So the thing about it is you mayinitially have an agreement of.
You know what you know.
You know when I get paid.
You know when I get paid, babe,you know what I'm saying.
Like, you know what that man ismaking, so you know it's going
to be every paycheck I'm goingto give you $150.
And if he's out there, you knowhustling and stuff like that
(02:59):
legally, then you know it may beless, it may be more, so you
have to come up with a number.
Then you know it may be less,it may be more, so you have to
come up with a number of and ofcourse, this is uh, an agreement
this isn't paperwork, right,right.
so so you're doing that, but atthe same time, if you don't come
up with that number, uh, ifsomething happens to where you
(03:21):
guys don't see eye to eye andoutside of the child rearing
process and co-parenting process, she may feel some type of way
and be like OK, you know, youthought you was good with the
150 a week or the 300.
You know what I'm going to getthem folks and them folks is
going to basically be extremelyintrusive in your lifestyle,
(03:45):
right?
So now you got eyes.
Now you got eyes on what you do.
Now you got eyes on your taxes,your tax returns.
Now you got eyes.
They're looking in thedepartment of labor.
Okay, how much money is beingreported so we can use that.
We can look at that.
Now they send you an affidavitabout hey, you better let us
know what you got going on, bruh.
Yeah, how you signing that forDover's man.
(04:06):
And come on, that's toointrusive.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's intrusive, and then it's just.
I mean, it's flat out, it's notfair.
And I'm not saying life is fair, but I mean what other type of
circumstance does default underlike this type of audit of your
finances?
You know what I mean like, isthere any like this?
This is this sounds crazy to me, and especially if you're going
(04:33):
to talk about how you'realready you know you in, you're
in a child's life, right, youknow, just just to think about
how that you know that couldeven occur is just's just crazy.
And one of the things we didn'ttalk about was just how it
affects the financial stabilityof the paying parent.
So even now Because I'mthinking of a scenario where
(04:57):
it's like, all right, you'redoing everything, you've got the
agreement with the parent, andmaybe the agreement was enough
to where you could still stashyou a little bit and still make
way and do the things that youneed for yourself as well as for
your child, but now, when theenforcement comes, now you don't
(05:19):
even have enough to kind of todo what you need to do you can't
even maneuver, you can't reallyyeah, you, you can't maneuver
like you need right.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Um man, that's a really good point, jay.
So to piggyback off of that,though, you also have to look at
the household is now split.
If they were together Hopefullythey were together what was
that dynamic prior to the split?
You know what I'm saying.
Maybe you got the lifestylethat you guys had.
(05:47):
Somebody had to make a littlebit more.
Maybe it was her, maybe shemade a little bit more so that
that guy, that father, can workin a specific industry.
He could be a little bit moreflexible to you know not be
corporate, you know what I'msaying or be able to make.
You know cash.
Maybe you know entrepreneurtype situation.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Right, right, cause it balances out.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right To balance it out.
And so now you know she hasthat, that structured income,
which a lot of women have, thatand need that, which is
important, especially if theyhave the child, you know, with
them the majority of the time,because there's you know,
there's programs and stuff outthere, Right, it looks great on
paper, Right, so, yeah, cool.
But again, you know thatdynamic must have been, you know
(06:37):
, he the one out there doing histhing or whatever and bringing
on that why she does that.
So now that they're busted up,he may now have to go to a more
structured situation and that'sgoing to push him back because,
yeah, he may have been makingsome, you know some great money,
whether it be cash or whateverthe way he's doing it, but now
he might have to go get a nineto five.
That really is going to set himback.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, it's going to limit him more than anything.
Yeah, so now he's limited and,like you said, he has to find a
new way to maneuver.
And I mean one of the thingsthat's kind of like a
trickle-down effect is like, doyou judge, like how do you even
quantify, whether this is abetter position for the dad to
(07:22):
be in as far as his ability toprovide for the kid?
Like, is it better for him tobe in this limited space where
he has to figure out andmaneuver and do all this?
Or, you know, was it a betteroutcome when he was, like you
said, like you know, getting hismoney as an entrepreneur?
(07:42):
Right non-traditional right,Non-traditional ways, exactly
Like I mean, these are justthings that you have to, that
you should try to account forbefore the enforcement is
involved, Because still theparent has to, you know, figure
it out, and then it's likeeverything is going to affect
(08:04):
the kid at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Everything is going to affect the kid at the end of
the day.
So when you talk about thefather because of course we're
both fathers, so our standpointis going to be let's just be
very clear this is a pops andson conversation.
This isn't a mom and sonconversation.
This isn't a mom and daughterconversation.
Ok, this is.
This is from our point of view.
(08:27):
So now you have to think abouthow can the father actually
maintain an active role in thechild's life now that he's on
this structured child supportenforcement program structured
child support enforcementprogram.
So that's why we're being veryspecific when we talk about the
child support enforcement, rightand so from let's just, let's
(08:49):
just talk about from anemotional standpoint, what does
that do to a father that hasbeen active, right, that is
doing, you know, whatever he canto make the child feel
appreciated, loved.
And I'm talking about time, I'mjust talking about time effort,
(09:10):
you know, being thereemotionally for that child,
creating milestones and memories.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Naturally.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And now you basically transactional, yeah that's
transactional for the mom yeah,it stings because, think about
it.
Now he's looking at well it,now he's looking at the
conversation of where is themoney?
(09:40):
That conversation is going toovershadow when you're going to
pick him up.
Because, think about it, if youdon't pick him up but you're
still dropping $2,500, I mean$2,500 a month she may not miss
him because that's enough moneyfor her to do what she needs to
(10:02):
do.
You can pay for a sitter, right,or you can take it to mom's or
granddad house.
Come on now, right, and thenyou can go do what you need to
do versus.
He can come every single week,two, three times a week, but if
you're not paying x amount ofdollars, then one of them days,
one of them weeks, you're tryingpaying X amount of dollars in
(10:23):
one of them days, one of themweeks, you're trying to come
through and you ain't make yourpayment.
It's like the creditor youhaven't made your payment, so we
suspending the access.
Your account is temporarilysuspended.
It's a non-payment.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
No balance, man, you got.
No, you know oh my God.
Can't see the kid man, that's.
But yeah, that's a conundrumLike it gets so complicated.
You know that's.
The only thing I know is likethere's so many different
scenarios and ways that it worksLike there's not even a a, a,
one, one, one situation.
(11:05):
You know there's a lot of waysthat it can just not be a good
look.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, you're right, man, um, you know, but, but but
we still have to, you know, tryto figure this thing out.
And I think if we go back tothe roots again, if we go back
to the roots of how thisrelationship started how did
this child get here Then I thinkthat the accountability goes on
(11:40):
both parents.
Like dude, I mean, that's stillyour child, right?
Like ma'am, that's still hischild.
Because you got to think aboutthe conversation, how it goes.
You're not coming to pick up mybaby, my baby don't need you,
I'm going to be all right, meand my baby going to be good
Every, every, every singlesituation where they're not
(12:06):
together.
In my opinion, and y'all let meknow if I'm wrong, go to all my
social medias, yeah, and let meknow if I'm wrong.
But every woman at least onetime, has said me and my baby
going to be all right To thefather of your child, even if
y'all are married.
Come on, I'm not talking abouttwo griping parents going back
(12:31):
and forth.
I'm talking about every singlemother Done said Me and my baby,
we going to be fine.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Have you ever heard that before?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Jay, yeah, I heard it before.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And I'm not even saying directly, I'm saying
indirectly yeah, all I need isthe ladies to be like you know
what I'm saying at least onetime.
Me and my baby are going to befine.
You said that to your husband.
Again, it goes to again how didthat child get here?
Did you guys plan thispregnancy?
(13:05):
And I say pregnancy first,because that's where the
relationship starts, that'swhere the relationship, the baby
, don't pop out and then you'relike, hey, man, welcome.
You should have been sayingthat when she was on swole,
right.
So that's where therelationship starts.
So now you have to think aboutDuring the pregnancy period,
(13:30):
what was the relationship like?
Did you go back?
And again we talked about?
You guys got to go back andlisten to part one when we
talked about this, because wetalked about the, the origin of
the child and the uhrelationship during the
pregnancy, during the uh, whenyou found out you was pregnant
(13:51):
oh, yeah, yeah, that yeah thetwo.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
What happened then?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
two, two different questions and reactions going on
man, they're gonna have tolisten to part one and then part
two obviously will make a wholelot more sense for you guys.
So, uh, that being said, jackman, we, we just gonna look, man
, we're just gonna put a hardstop until we get a guest.
(14:15):
We'll probably get a guest.
When we talk about we'll get a,we can get a lady.
You want to get a lady on here,man?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
yeah, I want to.
I definitely want to get amother and I want to try to find
some.
You know, some examples of thechild support where you know
father is active and payingchild support and everything is
good like I want to see thatyeah, that's a fact we got
(14:42):
because it's I mean, it's somuch negative, like it don't got
to be bad.
All right, you're paying childsupport, but you and baby moms
is good.
Y'all got child agreement orwhatever and there's no
enforcement.
Like, let's find some of that,let's try to get that in the
community.
Let's you know what I'm saying,because, hey, it don't always
work out.
We understand that, cool.
But if y'all working to makesure that the kid is seeing a
(15:05):
good example of the two parentsco-parenting, hey, man, we got
to salute that.
We got to see more of that.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I agree, hey, I agree .
Look, we going to do a hardstop.
We want you guys again to goahead and check out part one.
Even if you listen to thisfirst, it's cool, but go listen
to part one.
We talked about child support,everything, uh that encompasses
(15:33):
the relationship, uh, the, themother, the father, you know, uh
, co-parenting aspects of it.
But yeah, when we deal withchild support, of course course
you know there's differentaspects, but we dealt with what
y'all wanted us to deal with themoney, the money.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
The money.
That's what matters, man.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
So look, man, hey, we appreciate you guys supporting
everything Pops and Sonconversations.
We're going to keep doing it.
We're going to keep giving youeverything that you need.
It's your favorite show Fox,rob and Lloyd.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
All right, y'all meet us here at the same time next
week.
Do not miss it.
We out, we gone.
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