October 23, 2025 • 42 mins
What does balance really look like when life gets loud? We open October with birthdays, family energy, and a grounded nod to awareness month causes, then get honest about what 31 and 50 have taught us about growth, legacy, and being present. Jay frames his early 30s as a rediscovery—testing old beliefs, owning creativity as a public craft, and building a father’s toolkit that goes beyond money into mindset and resilience. Pops answers with gratitude and focus at 50: honoring a brilliant mind without scattering it, acting on vision before doubt creeps in, and protecting relationships from the small stuff that steals irreplaceable time.
We dig into Libra season without fluff: balance as a daily practice, not a personality quiz. Charm is real, but patience is rarer. Social energy is strategic—turn it on for the room, turn it off to recharge. Our aesthetic eye catches details others miss, a gift that needs empathy to stay kind. When it comes to dating a Libra, the playbook is simple: don’t rush the process, respect solitude, and bring your real self. Quiet is not a problem to fix; it’s a place to rest and feel safe. High energy and calm can coexist when the goal is harmony, not performance.
Threaded through it all is legacy—how we use our talents, time, and presence to leave people better than we found them. We talk setting goals without shame, rolling them forward with intention, and teaching the next generation to think clearly, love deeply, and execute when purpose calls. If you’re navigating reinvention, protecting your peace, or trying to love someone more thoughtfully, this one meets you where you are and nudges you forward.
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SPEAKER_00 (01:49):
Welcome to another episode of Pops and Son
Conversations.
And yes, it is your favoritesilver fox, Ramalloyd.
SPEAKER_01 (01:58):
And yes, it is Tech Three Times, J, man here.
SPEAKER_00 (02:03):
And welcome.
Hey man, it's October, Jay.
Happy birthday, brother.
SPEAKER_01 (02:09):
Thank you, Pops.
Happy birthday.
SPEAKER_00 (02:11):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Uh so you know, we get anopportunity to show some love to
the Libra nation out there, man.
We gotta show some love to youall.
So a lot has been happening.
Uh had a birthday party, uh, hada birthday dinner with Jay.
And man, we really just uh, youknow, we've been inspired this
(02:33):
month of October to make surethat we continue to push our
agenda of, you know, making surethat the fathers and sons are
represented, man.
So we've been doing a lot, man.
We've been getting it in.
How you feeling?
SPEAKER_01 (02:45):
I'm feeling good, Pops.
You know, this is uh October isalways my favorite month.
Not just because it's mybirthday month, but you know, I
always enjoy the weather.
It's I always like some eventsand stuff going on.
So uh yeah, I'm feeling good.
I'm feeling good.
SPEAKER_00 (03:03):
Okay, uh, let's go ahead and get some things out
the way uh real quick.
So uh we want to make or put onnotice that it is breast cancer
awareness month every October,but of course every day is the
awareness and and the purpleone.
JD, do you know what the the thepurple ribbon is about?
SPEAKER_01 (03:24):
I don't.
I'm not familiar with the purpleribbon.
SPEAKER_00 (03:27):
Okay, so when you see the purple ribbon in
October, it's domestic violenceawareness month.
SPEAKER_01 (03:35):
Okay, I did not know that.
SPEAKER_00 (03:37):
Yeah, man, that's uh that's what it is.
Now it's it's a few other thingsgoing on.
I I may mention those a littlebit later in the episode, but
yeah, those are the two that wedefinitely want to make sure
that you guys understand.
Um, you know, matter of fact, umbeing a coach of special needs
kids, or I guess I'm kind oflike a retired coach now, right?
(04:00):
Um but big shout out to the Downsyndrome awareness, which is the
blue and yellow.
Um big shout out to my uh, youknow, to my kids um out there,
man.
I kind of miss coaching them andyou know, spending some time
with them, man, because uh thatwas definitely an important part
of my life where I was able tocontribute in a different way
(04:23):
than usual.
SPEAKER_01 (04:24):
Right, yeah, that's dope too.
Yeah, for sure.
Super dope.
SPEAKER_00 (04:28):
Yeah, so um, yeah, man.
So let's kind of jump into thisthing here, real quick.
We know that you guys have uhbeen excited about some of the
things that you've seen us do onsocial media, you know.
We've been participating in somedifferent events, uh, that we've
been able to uh you know have areally good time.
So it's time to get back towork.
SPEAKER_01 (04:48):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:49):
So so we're here to get back to work.
So we're gonna talk a little bitabout the Libra life and
lifestyle and lessons.
Yeah, Jay.
So we I'm gonna start with you,man.
Now you just turned 31.
SPEAKER_01 (05:03):
Just turned 31.
SPEAKER_00 (05:04):
Right.
So uh, so that that's a new erafor you, man.
So how does that feel for you?
SPEAKER_01 (05:09):
Uh if I gotta be completely honest, then this
this era for me is, you know, ina lot of ways, it's almost like
a rediscovery era for me.
You know, I I I'll harken backto when um I say like maybe like
18 and 21, it's kind of got thesame feel because it was like I
(05:33):
knew it was like a newbeginning.
It's like you know, you're 18and then 21, you know, you're
legal and everything.
But then at 30 and 31, it's likeit's it's it's just a different
air, you know what I'm saying?
I'm learning new stuff aboutmyself, I'm learning new stuff
about the world.
You know, I'm challenging someof my older views at a younger
(05:55):
age and and coming to you knowdifferent uh conclusions about
things and just how I think.
So uh I think rediscovery is ais a good a good word for how I
feel about it.
SPEAKER_00 (06:06):
I agree with you, man.
You know, uh watching yourgrowth and development, uh, you
know, as a father, as anentrepreneur, just as a young
man navigating through thisworld, you know, it's not easy,
man.
I I think back to 30 for me, andum I had a whole bunch of
responsibilities.
I ain't even gonna lie to you.
I mean, I was married at 30.
(06:28):
Um, you know, uh there werecertain things that I felt like
I needed to have.
I felt like I needed a house anda couple of cars.
I know I was never worried aboutpets, though.
That's one thing that I neverfelt that I needed to acquire,
man.
It wasn't like you know, I needa I need a Roddy in the house,
man.
I need a pity.
I need some pit bull puppies,man.
(06:51):
Never went through that phase,man, ever, ever.
But yeah, so you know,technology, uh just evolving and
you know, really wanting thebest version of yourself, man.
And not only that, building alegacy, man, it's it's a lot on
a black man's back, brother.
Yeah, it's a lot.
(07:13):
So um, you know, turning 50 waslike um it was nostalgic for me
because I it made me lookfurther back than I wanted to.
Like I'm 50, but why am Ilooking at what was going on
when I was 18?
But uh, you know, it does put alot of things in perspective
(07:34):
because it let me know thatthere's nothing that I could
have changed or nothing that Iwould have wanted to change
because I may not be here.
I may not be the man that I amnow, I may not be the father
that I am now.
And so, you know, I don't Idon't worry about what I can
change, but uh in the past, butwhat I do look at is uh you know
(07:57):
my footsteps in front of me.
So so at 50, of course, you havethis awakening of you know um
(08:45):
your aesthetics and uh your uhmental awareness and toughness
and uh you know what you canwithstand your bandwidth and
things like that, man.
So, you know, these these lastfew weeks have have been you
know really interesting and itput me in a real interesting
space, man.
(09:05):
But I'm glad of everythingthat's going on around me.
You know, I'm I'm proud to seewhat you're doing, um, and that
you're laser focused.
Uh, you know, your sisters, youknow, even looking at you know,
my parents wanting to be closerto them and making sure that
they're good.
So now I have this like uh thisreally um patriotic feel of
(09:30):
what's going on around me, alittle bit more awareness.
So it's a really interestingspace.
SPEAKER_01 (09:36):
Yeah, nah, I love it.
You know, I um well, I I'll go.
I want to do a callback to the Idon't know if we did we already
talk about the uh the dinner,the uh the part the party.
SPEAKER_00 (09:49):
Nah, we didn't talk about the party, man.
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01 (09:51):
Yeah, I just I just because hearing you talk about
that, I just I'm just gettinglike flashes of that that scene,
you know what I'm saying?
And just, you know, you beingthere, and then you know, of
course, I did my poem orwhatever, and then um, you know,
my baby sister was there.
So it was just like it was justa different, you know.
I I had never, I guess I justnever kind of felt, you know,
(10:15):
that type of energy before.
So I just I just thought it wasreal dope.
I think maybe I'm that energythat you feeling maybe is
radiated, and I'm getting someof that too.
It's basically what I'm saying.
Just picking up on that.
SPEAKER_00 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Uh, you know, big shout out toeverybody that came out to the
party.
Uh, we had it at Timeless uhKitchen and Cocktails.
So big shout out to the ownersthere.
Um, you know, much love foreverybody that participated, and
and again, uh Jay, you had uh anamazing moment of uh I would say
(10:53):
speaking life, man.
I wouldn't even go into poetryor spoken word, man.
You were just speaking so muchlife, whether it was the
present, the future, or thepast.
Uh baby sis, you know, she sheuh enjoyed introducing you and
she's trying to get a littleshine in, right?
Like she tried to get a littlethree minutes of fame.
SPEAKER_01 (11:12):
I wasn't mad at it.
SPEAKER_00 (11:14):
I wasn't mad either, right?
Wasn't even mad.
She was looking around, like allthese people are way older than
me.
Uh yeah, baby, this is this is agrown folk business, right?
Like you wouldn't be here unlessI was here, right?
So uh yeah, so good times, man.
Thank you everybody for thegifts, for the love.
Uh, you know, also participatedin Atlanta Cigar Week.
Uh Jay came to a few uh with me,man.
(11:36):
So that was uh uh AtlantaCulture Week is actually what
it's gonna be called movingforward.
So, you know, shout out to theowners and creators of that.
Um, so just just a really goodtime.
So let's let's move forward,man.
Um, I I wanted to first makesure people understand when we
talk about Libra season, we'retalking about very specific
(11:59):
dates.
Like people really don't evenknow their uh zodiac signs, like
they just know their theirwindow, right?
They're a week before them and aweek after them.
But uh we're talking about thedates uh starting September the
23rd uh through the 22nd.
(12:19):
So that's uh that's that Libraseason that we're talking about.
So of course I land uh about aweek into it, and then you know,
after I get things cracking, Jayflies right through, you know
what I mean?
Uh about a a week and a coupleof days after.
So uh so let Jay, can you canyou actually name some of the
(12:42):
characteristics of a Libra?
Now I don't know if we need togo into male, Libra, female.
Let's not do that because we'llthat's a whole nother episode,
right?
Oh yeah, yeah right.
So just some of uh maybe some ofthe characteristics that people
are accustomed to, and thenmaybe uh that they'll be
learning from us today.
SPEAKER_01 (12:59):
Yeah, for sure.
So I um I always feel like I wasa true Libra.
You know, I always felt like Ireally exemplified that.
So I don't even really have tolook at a list to tell you, you
know what I'm saying?
Like what Libras definitelyweren't charming.
You know, we we we just we gotthat charm, you know, it's it's
(13:20):
it's just something about it.
Um Libras are naturally um likewe're kind of like naturally
social.
And we don't really like it'skind of like a twofold thing.
Like you got some Libras thatlike they turn it on and they
could turn it off, and then yougot some that's just like it's
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just like that.
Me personally, uh-huh.
I like I have it, but sometimesI ain't got it.
But like when I got it, it'slike, oh yeah, you know, you
like you know, you feel likethat guy.
It's like the charisma, yeah,the charm, it's all there.
Um a few more, uh definitely,you know, Libras are the scales,
(14:01):
that's our symbol.
So we are all about balance,harmony.
SPEAKER_00 (14:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:07):
You know, it's it's uh it's uh very diplomatic.
And then another thing too,which is also very true,
aesthetics.
Libras are really, we have areally good eye for aesthetics,
art, beauty.
Um, you know, these these arepeople that really can put you
know uh the fashion together, oryou may have some really good
(14:30):
artists, or just a good eye forart that could uh that could uh
decorate or design really well.
Um so yeah, so that's just afew, but yeah, definitely for
me, the charm sticks out, theaesthetics, I don't know.
I just have a really like forme, I it has to be a certain
way.
If it doesn't look right, to me,I'm like, this is not it.
(14:52):
I don't like it.
And I can tell like right offthe bat, I'm like, man, I'm no,
that's I don't like it.
SPEAKER_00 (14:59):
That's a good point.
Hey, hey, you know what?
That's that's a really goodpoint.
Uh when you talked about kind ofthrowing the uh in the social
setting, man, throwing it on andthrowing it off.
That's me all day, man.
You know, people ask me whenthey meet me, they're like, yo,
you be outside.
And I'm like, no, no, you onlysee me when I'm outside.
(15:22):
Like, and if you do, it's justthat one time.
I may I may post like maybe twoor three of the same scene of
that night throughout the week.
So you thinking that I done wentto about three or four events,
or I hosted three or fourevents, nah, baby, that's just
that one night, right?
SPEAKER_01 (15:42):
One night only.
SPEAKER_00 (15:44):
One night only.
But uh yeah, I definitely turnit on and turn it off, man.
I have to tell uh the folks thatI'm with sometimes.
I'm like, look, you know, I'mgonna get through this, I'm
gonna have a good time, and thenI'm done.
Like uh uh I'm through.
Like people are like, well, hey,what's what's what's next after
this?
Home.
SPEAKER_01 (16:04):
Home next.
That's what I'm saying.
I think people forget like that.
It can be it can be exhausting.
Like being in a social setting,and then especially if you're
gonna be like the light or thelife of the party or whatever
the case is, like that can drainyour energy.
Like, you can't do that nightafter night after night.
You got to you got to go homeand recoup, you gotta build that
(16:27):
back up.
SPEAKER_00 (16:28):
That's it.
Guaranteed, man.
Guaranteed.
So so I do want to do this, man,before we uh we pivot a little
bit.
Uh I want to talk about uh whenit comes to these
characteristics, man.
Uh, I'm gonna throw a few ofthem at you and let me know how
this relates to you and uh andyour lifestyle.
(16:51):
So I'm gonna run a couple by youuh real quick, man, and and then
we uh we can keep it moving.
All right.
So uh when it comes to a Libracharacteristics, uh
characteristic, do you believeor or do you agree or disagree
that uh Libras can be veryindecisive when choices are
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involved with others' feelings,like wanting everyone to be
happy?
SPEAKER_01 (17:19):
Yeah, yeah, I 100% agree with that.
I suffer from it, I agree withit.
I I mean that sounds like mylife story.
Uh that's definitely true.
I'm I'm always going over thingsin my head first, even before I,
you know what I'm saying?
I speak because I'm thinkingabout how somebody else may feel
(17:40):
or you know how my decision mayaffect them.
So yeah, yeah, 100% agree withthat one.
SPEAKER_00 (17:45):
Okay, all right.
So uh Libras um are very uh howdo you say it, very visual.
Like very when it comes to theaesthetics, man, they're very
aesthetically inclined, man.
Very, very visual.
How do you feel about that?
SPEAKER_01 (18:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
I agree with it.
Like I said, I I can telllooking at something for a few
seconds, I could tell you what'soff.
You know what I'm saying?
I could tell you which pictureis leaning to the side a little
too much.
Like, yeah, I this is a fact.
SPEAKER_00 (18:21):
Okay.
All right, so so how about likehow about in a woman though?
SPEAKER_01 (18:25):
Like how do you feel like are we just saying, like,
as oh now let me get thequestion right now.
We saying, because you saidvisual aesthetics, like are we
(20:01):
just saying, like I could, youknow, which which woman got the
package together, right?
Like who got it on?
Yeah, yeah, let's go there.
Let's go there.
SPEAKER_00 (20:08):
I mean, you know, of course we could talk about art,
you know, artists, cool, uh,arts and crafts, if you will,
but let's let's talk about thehuman anatomy.
SPEAKER_01 (20:16):
Right, right, right, right, right.
Yeah, so I definitely, you know,you definitely for me, it sticks
out the attention, like thedetails, like I'm
detail-oriented.
Okay, you know what I mean?
So I'm looking at I'm looking atthe face, I'm looking at the
hair, I'm looking at what you,you know, what you got on.
And it's not even like I want todo it per se.
(20:39):
It's like I can't get past it.
It's gonna stick out regardless.
SPEAKER_00 (20:42):
It's a gift and a curse.
SPEAKER_01 (20:43):
Yeah, I'm not even looking for, I'm just like, man,
I really noticed how uh like youknow, yeah, sometimes it's too
much though, right?
SPEAKER_00 (20:51):
Like I cannot be this detailed, like I should not
be this detailed in what I'mlooking at and noticing.
SPEAKER_01 (21:00):
Can't help it, can't help it, man.
You I almost have to draw it,like I have to draw it back and
be like, all right, the averageperson would not even be fixated
on this like so.
Let me just tell everybody hastheir flaws or whatever, like we
all humans, so don't be toocritical.
Definitely think being criticalis a is a Libra, is a Libra
(21:21):
trait for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (21:22):
It is, it is.
Okay, so uh let me let me getone more in there.
So okay, so how about umempathetic?
Like you to the point to whereyou you're almost thinking on
behalf of the other person ortaking their feelings in
consideration before they evensay anything.
SPEAKER_01 (21:44):
Yeah.
Now this one, I I do believe Iagree with that as a Libra
trait.
I do.
But I if I I you know if I'mbeing honest with me personally,
I think I may have, I don'tthink my empathy bar is at the
max.
I don't think it's at the max.
I think I could work on that.
Um I do, I do feel like this,it's it's a Libra trait.
(22:08):
Just because of what I saidearlier about how, you know,
anytime I before I do something,before I say something, I'm
always thinking about how that'sgonna affect the other person.
You know what I'm saying?
So I don't know if I'm always, Idon't know if that's like a a me
thing or if I'm like thinkingabout that person or if I'm just
trying to save face for myself.
And I'm being super honest rightnow.
(22:29):
Yeah, yeah.
But but I don't know if it'slike if it's me or if I, you
know what I'm saying?
Like it's a thin line becauseeither way it goes, it's for the
greater good of both parties,but you know, I don't know if
it's like me being selfish aboutit or if I'm really trying to be
empathetic.
But I mean, I I don't think it'sa bad thing either way, though,
because like I said, yeah,either way, I'm trying to, you
(22:53):
know, do the best, what's gonnabe best for everybody at the end
of the day.
Including myself, though.
Including yourself.
That's what I can't leave up.
SPEAKER_00 (23:02):
Yeah, I I think that that's uh I think that's cool
though.
I think uh taking that inconsideration, man, is is just
somebody who who really cares,you know, and of course it's
gonna be case by case, becauseyou know, there's there's
individuals where you willprobably curtail your feelings
and and expressions, and thenthere's others that you may
(23:22):
think a little differently.
So it's definitely case by casefor show.
For sure.
Okay, Jay.
So this is what I want to I wantto finish the show with, man.
I I want us to talk about justkind of like you said, uh life
after 30, uh, you know, yourthought process, your uh the
(23:44):
things that you, you know, mayhave took inventory of, you
know, up to this point.
And then, you know, your youknow, your future plans, like
your new goals or the goals thatyou still have that you uh want
to make sure you complete,whether it be, you know, before
the quarter's out, fourthquarter, or whether it's
something you want to make surethat you knock out before the
(24:04):
first quarter of 2026.
SPEAKER_01 (24:07):
Yeah.
Yeah, so um for sure, like Isaid before, um, you know,
turning 30, being in my 30s now,it's like that big step, that
rediscovery, and really justkind of learning myself again,
learning because I think that Ihad um, you know, I had come up
with this idea of what I wantedor who I wanted to be.
(24:32):
And, you know, I had to behonest with myself and kind of
really look again at what Ienjoy, what I like.
Because um I think it's so easyto just kind of get caught up in
and looking around and seeing,you know, what's working for
other people or what's workingjust out in the world.
(24:53):
But if it's not really makingyou happy and you're doing it,
then, you know, what are youreally doing it for?
So just kind of rediscoveringlike my my real passions, which
is of course has always beenwriting in poetry, but it's just
a difference between, you know,how they say making your
passion, your profession.
Okay, well, you know, you couldsay that, but it's a difference
(25:16):
between actually um, you know,putting that into, you know,
putting that into play andreally sticking to your guns and
making something out of it.
So that's been um a main focusnow more than ever.
Like, and and and I've I've seenthe growth and the progress
because before, you know, I'veI'm I'm I've written so, so
(25:37):
much, but actually getting infront of a crowd and and really
putting it out there or evenjust coming up with, you know,
things about current events,like writing about things that's
going on today and kind ofgiving my commentary on it,
which is you know, also addsvalue to not just the poetry,
but you know, just you know, mymy idea could spike somebody
(25:58):
else.
So um, yeah, so you know, justjust right now is just balancing
that and then just come and justcontinuing, you know, striving
towards a goal, you know, withwith my son, you know, he
getting older.
It's like the only thing I'mfocused on at this point is
making sure I got what I need sothat I could pass down, you
(26:19):
know, to him and make sure that,you know, that he's you know,
equipped, I think, with is is isthe best is the best word.
And and when you think aboutthat, it's not just a monetary
thing.
You know, I'm still learning andand and getting my info so I
could pass that down to him aswell.
So, you know, still still thelegacy vibe, still the
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entrepreneur vibes, and stillstriving towards the goals.
Now, the goals.
I I have my goals set for for2025, and I accomplished some of
them.
SPEAKER_00 (26:54):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (26:55):
So I didn't accomplish all of them, so we're
gonna roll some more over to tonext year.
I have no shame in that.
You know, the goal is the goal.
Until I until I achieve it, it'sgonna, you know, it's it's gonna
be uh pinned at the top.
So um, yeah, we still got westill got some more work to do,
but you know, I'm full steamahead, and it's really no
(27:16):
looking back at this point.
SPEAKER_00 (27:18):
That's solid.
Uh that's really solid.
Uh I'll be I'll be brief becauseI do uh believe we had you know
something that had came throughin one of our inboxes uh about
Libras.
And so being that this is prettymuch uh capping off the Libra
season, we want to get thatquestion answered.
So I'll just say, you know, forme, man, life uh at 50 is uh
(27:42):
gratitude, a lot of gratitudeand gratefulness.
You know, uh I look at justbeing around is is a big deal
because there's so muchhappening to the left and the
right of us, man.
So just being around, being in ain a solid state of mind, uh
focused, appreciative, thankful.
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Um, but what I did learn aboutmyself is that I have a
brilliant mind.
And when you have a brilliantmind, man, you really can't let
your foot off the gas becauseyou have all these ideas, you
put all these irons in the fire,and you can really get lost in
the sauce, man.
You know, you could just havetoo much going on, and so you
have to refocus, you really haveto line up your goals and and
(30:14):
attack them and accomplish them.
Like, don't leave anythingunfinished because uh God gives
you these visions and theseexperiences to implement right
away.
Like if He gives you a visionand you know that it's something
that you can literally do, likedo it, don't sit on it, don't
(30:37):
question it, damn sure don'tgive it to anybody else to try
to uh translate and create foryou, man.
You really have to you reallyhave to stand on those uh those
those ideas, those visions thatGod gives you, uh, and uh and
make it happen right away.
Um, because it's gonna be abuilding block, you know, for
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something even bigger than you.
So, you know, that was somethingthat was really near and dear to
me, and and really just to kindof love on those folks around
you.
You know, uh tomorrow's notpromised.
You you don't want to be in asituation where you have you
know unresolved issues with yourfamily members, and you know,
you not talking to somebody orsomebody not talking to you, and
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you feel like they gotta textyou first and all that.
That stuff is frivolous,especially if you don't get the
opportunity to see or spend timeor even talk to that person.
Now a text message or being madthat somebody said something to
you is dumb.
Now it's dumb, right?
Because you you lost the wholeexperience to be able to share
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with someone because they're nolonger here or you no longer
here, whatever the case is, it'sa missed opportunity.
So uh, you know, just uh beingappreciative and you know, just
continuing to have solid strongrelationships, especially those
that you know you care about andcare about you.
So that would be my thing foranybody.
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You know, definitely uh live inthe moment, but be very
intentional that uh tomorrow'snot promised, next year's not
promised, and even opportunitiesum aren't promised.
So you want to take fulladvantage.
Yeah, so all right, so let's getthis question out the way, man,
and we're gonna wrap things up.
So we have uh something thatcame through uh our DM, if you
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will, and so we'll both answeranswer these.
Uh I'll let you answer thisfirst, uh Jay.
So uh somebody asked, what is itabout Libras that you should uh
want people to know before theydate you or try to get to know
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you and and to navigate thosequote unquote Libra waters?
So uh what what would you wantpeople to know?
And you can you can speakspecifically and generally uh in
this matter, Jay.
So what do you what do you wantwhat what should people know
about Libras, man, beforegetting to know them or dating
them?
SPEAKER_01 (33:11):
Yeah, what what you should know uh first off, um I
would say that um you have to beyou have to be you you have to
be patient.
And when I say this, um what Imean is that you have to be
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patient with their patiencebecause Libras are very patient.
And for some reason, that canunnerve people.
Like if you're too patient, Idon't know what it is, but a lot
of people don't like like theywant you to be in a rush, they
want you to do things a littlebit quicker, whatever the case
is.
But um, you know, a lot ofLibras don't move like that.
(33:52):
Like we we got to, like I said,assess the situation, balance
things out, yeah, you make sureeverything makes sense, and then
we can move.
We're not going to act now andthen think later.
We're gonna think first and thenmake a good decision afterwards.
So um be patient um with yourwith your Libra and just know
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that you know it's not gonna bea uh an expeditic process.
You you may be, you know,chilling for a little bit, and
that's cool.
You know, stop and smell theflowers.
Um so yeah, I would say that.
So obviously, don't you probablyshouldn't be trying to rush
them.
That's one of my pet peeves.
I hate to be rushed.
Um so I would say that's likethe biggest thing.
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I would say that's the biggestthing, man.
Be patient and don't rush.
But um, I mean, other than that,what what you should know, like
Libras love to, we love to love,man.
Like we love, you know, we weare the romantic types, we are
the types to um, you know, we wedon't mind being in your
presence.
We we like to that quality timeand all that good stuff.
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But at the same time, we likesolitude as well.
So, you know, I I can speak formyself.
Like I I love my time, you know,day in and all that too, but I
like my me time as well.
Like I it's it's it's timeswhere I don't want to be around
anybody, you know, and Iappreciate that that that
(35:29):
solitude.
Like that's my that's my pieceright there.
So yeah, I would say them twothings the patience, and just
know that um, you know, you maybe dealing with a Libra that.
Values his solitude as well.
So don't feel any type of way.
SPEAKER_00 (35:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (35:44):
Just know that, you know, brother needs didn't need
his time sometimes.
SPEAKER_00 (35:48):
That's good, man.
You know, all I could do isreally uh second that emotion
and kind of piggyback um off ofthat.
I I feel the same way.
You know, um, I I would evenprobably add uh to the fact of
uh, you know, for me, less ismore, right?
(36:09):
Less is more.
You don't have to do a wholelot, you you don't have to
overextend yourself.
Like I'm gonna look at it thesame way, right?
I'm gonna whether you do a wholelot or or whether you whether
you uh you know you're patientum with me.
So I'm the type that you knowyou don't have to prove yourself
(36:31):
to me.
Like just be who you are.
Uh you know, you know, there's alot of folks out there, man,
that feel like they need theyneed that reinforcement and
validation.
Um, I don't need that, Jay.
Like, you know, so so certainthings that you know may make a
person feel a little bit morecomfortable and confident and
(36:55):
and wanted and things like that,you know, if you learn a little
bit more about me, you know, Idon't necessarily need those
things, you know.
So I just want a person to begenuine.
Uh, I want a person to to uh getto know me, kind of learn me,
you know, uh, because you canask a person, well, well, tell
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me what you like.
Well, I I can tell you what Idon't like, right?
It's easier if uh if I tell youwhat I don't like, because what
I do like is that I just like uhauthenticity, I just like
organic moments.
Like for me, man, there's noawkward silence because we we
don't have to talk.
(37:37):
Right.
There's no awkward silence.
You want to be quiet, cool.
I want to be quiet too.
I'm perfectly okay with with uhyou know silence.
It truly is golden.
Like I'm not tripping off ofthat.
And uh, you know, I just I justlike the process of discovering,
(37:58):
discovering what you like, uh,discovering you know what what
makes you happy, and just kindof rinsing, repeating those
things.
Doesn't have to be a wholevariety of things, or don't you
know need to have these uhinterventions and things like
that.
What works is what works.
So I would say uh to to any ladyout there that is deciding to
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get to know um, you know, to getto know uh a Libra is what you
see is what you're gonna get.
Like we're we're really big onbalance.
So if if you have uh a highenergy, it's not that we're
gonna have a low energy, it'sjust that you know what goes up
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must come down.
So there's gonna be some balanceto it.
So you know, so don't trip.
And really, man, just just enjoythose moments, man.
Cherish those moments, don'toverthink, don't overanalyze.
Allow every unique experience tobe just that, man.
Allow it to be unique.
And uh, you know, and that's allI got for them, man.
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That's that's really all I cansay.
And and just uh again, enjoyevery moment and um be who you
are, you know, to the core.
So we can love that person.
SPEAKER_01 (39:19):
Yeah.
100% agree.
100% that's all they need.
That's all they need to know.
SPEAKER_00 (39:27):
Hey, look, we enjoy uh the fact that we get an
opportunity to share ourexperiences with you.
Of course, we talked about uhLibra lifestyle and lessons, and
uh, you know, we encourage youguys to embrace every single
day.
Tomorrow's not promise.
Make sure you tell somebody thatyou love them, make sure that
you enjoy every experience andmake each one unique.
(39:49):
So, with that being said, look,man, we enjoy you guys.
We appreciate you.
We're signing off, Pops and SunConversations.
It is your favorite still FoxRob Malloy.
SPEAKER_01 (39:58):
And it's Jay.
Check three times.
We out.
SPEAKER_00 (40:02):
We gone.
Welcome to another episode of Pops and Son
Conversations.
And yes, it is your favoritesilver fox, Ramalloyd.
SPEAKER_01 (01:58):
And yes, it is Tech Three Times, J, man here.
SPEAKER_00 (02:03):
And welcome.
Hey man, it's October, Jay.
Happy birthday, brother.
SPEAKER_01 (02:09):
Thank you, Pops.
Happy birthday.
SPEAKER_00 (02:11):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Uh so you know, we get anopportunity to show some love to
the Libra nation out there, man.
We gotta show some love to youall.
So a lot has been happening.
Uh had a birthday party, uh, hada birthday dinner with Jay.
And man, we really just uh, youknow, we've been inspired this
(02:33):
month of October to make surethat we continue to push our
agenda of, you know, making surethat the fathers and sons are
represented, man.
So we've been doing a lot, man.
We've been getting it in.
How you feeling?
SPEAKER_01 (02:45):
I'm feeling good, Pops.
You know, this is uh October isalways my favorite month.
Not just because it's mybirthday month, but you know, I
always enjoy the weather.
It's I always like some eventsand stuff going on.
So uh yeah, I'm feeling good.
I'm feeling good.
SPEAKER_00 (03:03):
Okay, uh, let's go ahead and get some things out
the way uh real quick.
So uh we want to make or put onnotice that it is breast cancer
awareness month every October,but of course every day is the
awareness and and the purpleone.
JD, do you know what the the thepurple ribbon is about?
SPEAKER_01 (03:24):
I don't.
I'm not familiar with the purpleribbon.
SPEAKER_00 (03:27):
Okay, so when you see the purple ribbon in
October, it's domestic violenceawareness month.
SPEAKER_01 (03:35):
Okay, I did not know that.
SPEAKER_00 (03:37):
Yeah, man, that's uh that's what it is.
Now it's it's a few other thingsgoing on.
I I may mention those a littlebit later in the episode, but
yeah, those are the two that wedefinitely want to make sure
that you guys understand.
Um, you know, matter of fact, umbeing a coach of special needs
kids, or I guess I'm kind oflike a retired coach now, right?
(04:00):
Um but big shout out to the Downsyndrome awareness, which is the
blue and yellow.
Um big shout out to my uh, youknow, to my kids um out there,
man.
I kind of miss coaching them andyou know, spending some time
with them, man, because uh thatwas definitely an important part
of my life where I was able tocontribute in a different way
(04:23):
than usual.
SPEAKER_01 (04:24):
Right, yeah, that's dope too.
Yeah, for sure.
Super dope.
SPEAKER_00 (04:28):
Yeah, so um, yeah, man.
So let's kind of jump into thisthing here, real quick.
We know that you guys have uhbeen excited about some of the
things that you've seen us do onsocial media, you know.
We've been participating in somedifferent events, uh, that we've
been able to uh you know have areally good time.
So it's time to get back towork.
SPEAKER_01 (04:48):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:49):
So so we're here to get back to work.
So we're gonna talk a little bitabout the Libra life and
lifestyle and lessons.
Yeah, Jay.
So we I'm gonna start with you,man.
Now you just turned 31.
SPEAKER_01 (05:03):
Just turned 31.
SPEAKER_00 (05:04):
Right.
So uh, so that that's a new erafor you, man.
So how does that feel for you?
SPEAKER_01 (05:09):
Uh if I gotta be completely honest, then this
this era for me is, you know, ina lot of ways, it's almost like
a rediscovery era for me.
You know, I I I'll harken backto when um I say like maybe like
18 and 21, it's kind of got thesame feel because it was like I
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knew it was like a newbeginning.
It's like you know, you're 18and then 21, you know, you're
legal and everything.
But then at 30 and 31, it's likeit's it's it's just a different
air, you know what I'm saying?
I'm learning new stuff aboutmyself, I'm learning new stuff
about the world.
You know, I'm challenging someof my older views at a younger
(05:55):
age and and coming to you knowdifferent uh conclusions about
things and just how I think.
So uh I think rediscovery is ais a good a good word for how I
feel about it.
SPEAKER_00 (06:06):
I agree with you, man.
You know, uh watching yourgrowth and development, uh, you
know, as a father, as anentrepreneur, just as a young
man navigating through thisworld, you know, it's not easy,
man.
I I think back to 30 for me, andum I had a whole bunch of
responsibilities.
I ain't even gonna lie to you.
I mean, I was married at 30.
(06:28):
Um, you know, uh there werecertain things that I felt like
I needed to have.
I felt like I needed a house anda couple of cars.
I know I was never worried aboutpets, though.
That's one thing that I neverfelt that I needed to acquire,
man.
It wasn't like you know, I needa I need a Roddy in the house,
man.
I need a pity.
I need some pit bull puppies,man.
(06:51):
Never went through that phase,man, ever, ever.
But yeah, so you know,technology, uh just evolving and
you know, really wanting thebest version of yourself, man.
And not only that, building alegacy, man, it's it's a lot on
a black man's back, brother.
Yeah, it's a lot.
(07:13):
So um, you know, turning 50 waslike um it was nostalgic for me
because I it made me lookfurther back than I wanted to.
Like I'm 50, but why am Ilooking at what was going on
when I was 18?
But uh, you know, it does put alot of things in perspective
(07:34):
because it let me know thatthere's nothing that I could
have changed or nothing that Iwould have wanted to change
because I may not be here.
I may not be the man that I amnow, I may not be the father
that I am now.
And so, you know, I don't Idon't worry about what I can
change, but uh in the past, butwhat I do look at is uh you know
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my footsteps in front of me.
So so at 50, of course, you havethis awakening of you know um
(08:45):
your aesthetics and uh your uhmental awareness and toughness
and uh you know what you canwithstand your bandwidth and
things like that, man.
So, you know, these these lastfew weeks have have been you
know really interesting and itput me in a real interesting
space, man.
(09:05):
But I'm glad of everythingthat's going on around me.
You know, I'm I'm proud to seewhat you're doing, um, and that
you're laser focused.
Uh, you know, your sisters, youknow, even looking at you know,
my parents wanting to be closerto them and making sure that
they're good.
So now I have this like uh thisreally um patriotic feel of
(09:30):
what's going on around me, alittle bit more awareness.
So it's a really interestingspace.
SPEAKER_01 (09:36):
Yeah, nah, I love it.
You know, I um well, I I'll go.
I want to do a callback to the Idon't know if we did we already
talk about the uh the dinner,the uh the part the party.
SPEAKER_00 (09:49):
Nah, we didn't talk about the party, man.
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01 (09:51):
Yeah, I just I just because hearing you talk about
that, I just I'm just gettinglike flashes of that that scene,
you know what I'm saying?
And just, you know, you beingthere, and then you know, of
course, I did my poem orwhatever, and then um, you know,
my baby sister was there.
So it was just like it was justa different, you know.
I I had never, I guess I justnever kind of felt, you know,
(10:15):
that type of energy before.
So I just I just thought it wasreal dope.
I think maybe I'm that energythat you feeling maybe is
radiated, and I'm getting someof that too.
It's basically what I'm saying.
Just picking up on that.
SPEAKER_00 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Uh, you know, big shout out toeverybody that came out to the
party.
Uh, we had it at Timeless uhKitchen and Cocktails.
So big shout out to the ownersthere.
Um, you know, much love foreverybody that participated, and
and again, uh Jay, you had uh anamazing moment of uh I would say
(10:53):
speaking life, man.
I wouldn't even go into poetryor spoken word, man.
You were just speaking so muchlife, whether it was the
present, the future, or thepast.
Uh baby sis, you know, she sheuh enjoyed introducing you and
she's trying to get a littleshine in, right?
Like she tried to get a littlethree minutes of fame.
SPEAKER_01 (11:12):
I wasn't mad at it.
SPEAKER_00 (11:14):
I wasn't mad either, right?
Wasn't even mad.
She was looking around, like allthese people are way older than
me.
Uh yeah, baby, this is this is agrown folk business, right?
Like you wouldn't be here unlessI was here, right?
So uh yeah, so good times, man.
Thank you everybody for thegifts, for the love.
Uh, you know, also participatedin Atlanta Cigar Week.
Uh Jay came to a few uh with me,man.
(11:36):
So that was uh uh AtlantaCulture Week is actually what
it's gonna be called movingforward.
So, you know, shout out to theowners and creators of that.
Um, so just just a really goodtime.
So let's let's move forward,man.
Um, I I wanted to first makesure people understand when we
talk about Libra season, we'retalking about very specific
(11:59):
dates.
Like people really don't evenknow their uh zodiac signs, like
they just know their theirwindow, right?
They're a week before them and aweek after them.
But uh we're talking about thedates uh starting September the
23rd uh through the 22nd.
(12:19):
So that's uh that's that Libraseason that we're talking about.
So of course I land uh about aweek into it, and then you know,
after I get things cracking, Jayflies right through, you know
what I mean?
Uh about a a week and a coupleof days after.
So uh so let Jay, can you canyou actually name some of the
(12:42):
characteristics of a Libra?
Now I don't know if we need togo into male, Libra, female.
Let's not do that because we'llthat's a whole nother episode,
right?
Oh yeah, yeah right.
So just some of uh maybe some ofthe characteristics that people
are accustomed to, and thenmaybe uh that they'll be
learning from us today.
SPEAKER_01 (12:59):
Yeah, for sure.
So I um I always feel like I wasa true Libra.
You know, I always felt like Ireally exemplified that.
So I don't even really have tolook at a list to tell you, you
know what I'm saying?
Like what Libras definitelyweren't charming.
You know, we we we just we gotthat charm, you know, it's it's
(13:20):
it's just something about it.
Um Libras are naturally um likewe're kind of like naturally
social.
And we don't really like it'skind of like a twofold thing.
Like you got some Libras thatlike they turn it on and they
could turn it off, and then yougot some that's just like it's
(13:40):
just like that.
Me personally, uh-huh.
I like I have it, but sometimesI ain't got it.
But like when I got it, it'slike, oh yeah, you know, you
like you know, you feel likethat guy.
It's like the charisma, yeah,the charm, it's all there.
Um a few more, uh definitely,you know, Libras are the scales,
(14:01):
that's our symbol.
So we are all about balance,harmony.
SPEAKER_00 (14:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:07):
You know, it's it's uh it's uh very diplomatic.
And then another thing too,which is also very true,
aesthetics.
Libras are really, we have areally good eye for aesthetics,
art, beauty.
Um, you know, these these arepeople that really can put you
know uh the fashion together, oryou may have some really good
(14:30):
artists, or just a good eye forart that could uh that could uh
decorate or design really well.
Um so yeah, so that's just afew, but yeah, definitely for
me, the charm sticks out, theaesthetics, I don't know.
I just have a really like forme, I it has to be a certain
way.
If it doesn't look right, to me,I'm like, this is not it.
(14:52):
I don't like it.
And I can tell like right offthe bat, I'm like, man, I'm no,
that's I don't like it.
SPEAKER_00 (14:59):
That's a good point.
Hey, hey, you know what?
That's that's a really goodpoint.
Uh when you talked about kind ofthrowing the uh in the social
setting, man, throwing it on andthrowing it off.
That's me all day, man.
You know, people ask me whenthey meet me, they're like, yo,
you be outside.
And I'm like, no, no, you onlysee me when I'm outside.
(15:22):
Like, and if you do, it's justthat one time.
I may I may post like maybe twoor three of the same scene of
that night throughout the week.
So you thinking that I done wentto about three or four events,
or I hosted three or fourevents, nah, baby, that's just
that one night, right?
SPEAKER_01 (15:42):
One night only.
SPEAKER_00 (15:44):
One night only.
But uh yeah, I definitely turnit on and turn it off, man.
I have to tell uh the folks thatI'm with sometimes.
I'm like, look, you know, I'mgonna get through this, I'm
gonna have a good time, and thenI'm done.
Like uh uh I'm through.
Like people are like, well, hey,what's what's what's next after
this?
Home.
SPEAKER_01 (16:04):
Home next.
That's what I'm saying.
I think people forget like that.
It can be it can be exhausting.
Like being in a social setting,and then especially if you're
gonna be like the light or thelife of the party or whatever
the case is, like that can drainyour energy.
Like, you can't do that nightafter night after night.
You got to you got to go homeand recoup, you gotta build that
(16:27):
back up.
SPEAKER_00 (16:28):
That's it.
Guaranteed, man.
Guaranteed.
So so I do want to do this, man,before we uh we pivot a little
bit.
Uh I want to talk about uh whenit comes to these
characteristics, man.
Uh, I'm gonna throw a few ofthem at you and let me know how
this relates to you and uh andyour lifestyle.
(16:51):
So I'm gonna run a couple by youuh real quick, man, and and then
we uh we can keep it moving.
All right.
So uh when it comes to a Libracharacteristics, uh
characteristic, do you believeor or do you agree or disagree
that uh Libras can be veryindecisive when choices are
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involved with others' feelings,like wanting everyone to be
happy?
SPEAKER_01 (17:19):
Yeah, yeah, I 100% agree with that.
I suffer from it, I agree withit.
I I mean that sounds like mylife story.
Uh that's definitely true.
I'm I'm always going over thingsin my head first, even before I,
you know what I'm saying?
I speak because I'm thinkingabout how somebody else may feel
(17:40):
or you know how my decision mayaffect them.
So yeah, yeah, 100% agree withthat one.
SPEAKER_00 (17:45):
Okay, all right.
So uh Libras um are very uh howdo you say it, very visual.
Like very when it comes to theaesthetics, man, they're very
aesthetically inclined, man.
Very, very visual.
How do you feel about that?
SPEAKER_01 (18:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
I agree with it.
Like I said, I I can telllooking at something for a few
seconds, I could tell you what'soff.
You know what I'm saying?
I could tell you which pictureis leaning to the side a little
too much.
Like, yeah, I this is a fact.
SPEAKER_00 (18:21):
Okay.
All right, so so how about likehow about in a woman though?
SPEAKER_01 (18:25):
Like how do you feel like are we just saying, like,
as oh now let me get thequestion right now.
We saying, because you saidvisual aesthetics, like are we
(20:01):
just saying, like I could, youknow, which which woman got the
package together, right?
Like who got it on?
Yeah, yeah, let's go there.
Let's go there.
SPEAKER_00 (20:08):
I mean, you know, of course we could talk about art,
you know, artists, cool, uh,arts and crafts, if you will,
but let's let's talk about thehuman anatomy.
SPEAKER_01 (20:16):
Right, right, right, right, right.
Yeah, so I definitely, you know,you definitely for me, it sticks
out the attention, like thedetails, like I'm
detail-oriented.
Okay, you know what I mean?
So I'm looking at I'm looking atthe face, I'm looking at the
hair, I'm looking at what you,you know, what you got on.
And it's not even like I want todo it per se.
(20:39):
It's like I can't get past it.
It's gonna stick out regardless.
SPEAKER_00 (20:42):
It's a gift and a curse.
SPEAKER_01 (20:43):
Yeah, I'm not even looking for, I'm just like, man,
I really noticed how uh like youknow, yeah, sometimes it's too
much though, right?
SPEAKER_00 (20:51):
Like I cannot be this detailed, like I should not
be this detailed in what I'mlooking at and noticing.
SPEAKER_01 (21:00):
Can't help it, can't help it, man.
You I almost have to draw it,like I have to draw it back and
be like, all right, the averageperson would not even be fixated
on this like so.
Let me just tell everybody hastheir flaws or whatever, like we
all humans, so don't be toocritical.
Definitely think being criticalis a is a Libra, is a Libra
(21:21):
trait for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (21:22):
It is, it is.
Okay, so uh let me let me getone more in there.
So okay, so how about umempathetic?
Like you to the point to whereyou you're almost thinking on
behalf of the other person ortaking their feelings in
consideration before they evensay anything.
SPEAKER_01 (21:44):
Yeah.
Now this one, I I do believe Iagree with that as a Libra
trait.
I do.
But I if I I you know if I'mbeing honest with me personally,
I think I may have, I don'tthink my empathy bar is at the
max.
I don't think it's at the max.
I think I could work on that.
Um I do, I do feel like this,it's it's a Libra trait.
(22:08):
Just because of what I saidearlier about how, you know,
anytime I before I do something,before I say something, I'm
always thinking about how that'sgonna affect the other person.
You know what I'm saying?
So I don't know if I'm always, Idon't know if that's like a a me
thing or if I'm like thinkingabout that person or if I'm just
trying to save face for myself.
And I'm being super honest rightnow.
(22:29):
Yeah, yeah.
But but I don't know if it'slike if it's me or if I, you
know what I'm saying?
Like it's a thin line becauseeither way it goes, it's for the
greater good of both parties,but you know, I don't know if
it's like me being selfish aboutit or if I'm really trying to be
empathetic.
But I mean, I I don't think it'sa bad thing either way, though,
because like I said, yeah,either way, I'm trying to, you
(22:53):
know, do the best, what's gonnabe best for everybody at the end
of the day.
Including myself, though.
Including yourself.
That's what I can't leave up.
SPEAKER_00 (23:02):
Yeah, I I think that that's uh I think that's cool
though.
I think uh taking that inconsideration, man, is is just
somebody who who really cares,you know, and of course it's
gonna be case by case, becauseyou know, there's there's
individuals where you willprobably curtail your feelings
and and expressions, and thenthere's others that you may
(23:22):
think a little differently.
So it's definitely case by casefor show.
For sure.
Okay, Jay.
So this is what I want to I wantto finish the show with, man.
I I want us to talk about justkind of like you said, uh life
after 30, uh, you know, yourthought process, your uh the
(23:44):
things that you, you know, mayhave took inventory of, you
know, up to this point.
And then, you know, your youknow, your future plans, like
your new goals or the goals thatyou still have that you uh want
to make sure you complete,whether it be, you know, before
the quarter's out, fourthquarter, or whether it's
something you want to make surethat you knock out before the
(24:04):
first quarter of 2026.
SPEAKER_01 (24:07):
Yeah.
Yeah, so um for sure, like Isaid before, um, you know,
turning 30, being in my 30s now,it's like that big step, that
rediscovery, and really justkind of learning myself again,
learning because I think that Ihad um, you know, I had come up
with this idea of what I wantedor who I wanted to be.
(24:32):
And, you know, I had to behonest with myself and kind of
really look again at what Ienjoy, what I like.
Because um I think it's so easyto just kind of get caught up in
and looking around and seeing,you know, what's working for
other people or what's workingjust out in the world.
(24:53):
But if it's not really makingyou happy and you're doing it,
then, you know, what are youreally doing it for?
So just kind of rediscoveringlike my my real passions, which
is of course has always beenwriting in poetry, but it's just
a difference between, you know,how they say making your
passion, your profession.
Okay, well, you know, you couldsay that, but it's a difference
(25:16):
between actually um, you know,putting that into, you know,
putting that into play andreally sticking to your guns and
making something out of it.
So that's been um a main focusnow more than ever.
Like, and and and I've I've seenthe growth and the progress
because before, you know, I'veI'm I'm I've written so, so
(25:37):
much, but actually getting infront of a crowd and and really
putting it out there or evenjust coming up with, you know,
things about current events,like writing about things that's
going on today and kind ofgiving my commentary on it,
which is you know, also addsvalue to not just the poetry,
but you know, just you know, mymy idea could spike somebody
(25:58):
else.
So um, yeah, so you know, justjust right now is just balancing
that and then just come and justcontinuing, you know, striving
towards a goal, you know, withwith my son, you know, he
getting older.
It's like the only thing I'mfocused on at this point is
making sure I got what I need sothat I could pass down, you
(26:19):
know, to him and make sure that,you know, that he's you know,
equipped, I think, with is is isthe best is the best word.
And and when you think aboutthat, it's not just a monetary
thing.
You know, I'm still learning andand and getting my info so I
could pass that down to him aswell.
So, you know, still still thelegacy vibe, still the
(26:42):
entrepreneur vibes, and stillstriving towards the goals.
Now, the goals.
I I have my goals set for for2025, and I accomplished some of
them.
SPEAKER_00 (26:54):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (26:55):
So I didn't accomplish all of them, so we're
gonna roll some more over to tonext year.
I have no shame in that.
You know, the goal is the goal.
Until I until I achieve it, it'sgonna, you know, it's it's gonna
be uh pinned at the top.
So um, yeah, we still got westill got some more work to do,
but you know, I'm full steamahead, and it's really no
(27:16):
looking back at this point.
SPEAKER_00 (27:18):
That's solid.
Uh that's really solid.
Uh I'll be I'll be brief becauseI do uh believe we had you know
something that had came throughin one of our inboxes uh about
Libras.
And so being that this is prettymuch uh capping off the Libra
season, we want to get thatquestion answered.
So I'll just say, you know, forme, man, life uh at 50 is uh
(27:42):
gratitude, a lot of gratitudeand gratefulness.
You know, uh I look at justbeing around is is a big deal
because there's so muchhappening to the left and the
right of us, man.
So just being around, being in ain a solid state of mind, uh
focused, appreciative, thankful.
(29:51):
Um, but what I did learn aboutmyself is that I have a
brilliant mind.
And when you have a brilliantmind, man, you really can't let
your foot off the gas becauseyou have all these ideas, you
put all these irons in the fire,and you can really get lost in
the sauce, man.
You know, you could just havetoo much going on, and so you
have to refocus, you really haveto line up your goals and and
(30:14):
attack them and accomplish them.
Like, don't leave anythingunfinished because uh God gives
you these visions and theseexperiences to implement right
away.
Like if He gives you a visionand you know that it's something
that you can literally do, likedo it, don't sit on it, don't
(30:37):
question it, damn sure don'tgive it to anybody else to try
to uh translate and create foryou, man.
You really have to you reallyhave to stand on those uh those
those ideas, those visions thatGod gives you, uh, and uh and
make it happen right away.
Um, because it's gonna be abuilding block, you know, for
(30:58):
something even bigger than you.
So, you know, that was somethingthat was really near and dear to
me, and and really just to kindof love on those folks around
you.
You know, uh tomorrow's notpromised.
You you don't want to be in asituation where you have you
know unresolved issues with yourfamily members, and you know,
you not talking to somebody orsomebody not talking to you, and
(31:21):
you feel like they gotta textyou first and all that.
That stuff is frivolous,especially if you don't get the
opportunity to see or spend timeor even talk to that person.
Now a text message or being madthat somebody said something to
you is dumb.
Now it's dumb, right?
Because you you lost the wholeexperience to be able to share
(31:43):
with someone because they're nolonger here or you no longer
here, whatever the case is, it'sa missed opportunity.
So uh, you know, just uh beingappreciative and you know, just
continuing to have solid strongrelationships, especially those
that you know you care about andcare about you.
So that would be my thing foranybody.
(32:04):
You know, definitely uh live inthe moment, but be very
intentional that uh tomorrow'snot promised, next year's not
promised, and even opportunitiesum aren't promised.
So you want to take fulladvantage.
Yeah, so all right, so let's getthis question out the way, man,
and we're gonna wrap things up.
So we have uh something thatcame through uh our DM, if you
(32:28):
will, and so we'll both answeranswer these.
Uh I'll let you answer thisfirst, uh Jay.
So uh somebody asked, what is itabout Libras that you should uh
want people to know before theydate you or try to get to know
(32:51):
you and and to navigate thosequote unquote Libra waters?
So uh what what would you wantpeople to know?
And you can you can speakspecifically and generally uh in
this matter, Jay.
So what do you what do you wantwhat what should people know
about Libras, man, beforegetting to know them or dating
them?
SPEAKER_01 (33:11):
Yeah, what what you should know uh first off, um I
would say that um you have to beyou have to be you you have to
be patient.
And when I say this, um what Imean is that you have to be
(33:31):
patient with their patiencebecause Libras are very patient.
And for some reason, that canunnerve people.
Like if you're too patient, Idon't know what it is, but a lot
of people don't like like theywant you to be in a rush, they
want you to do things a littlebit quicker, whatever the case
is.
But um, you know, a lot ofLibras don't move like that.
(33:52):
Like we we got to, like I said,assess the situation, balance
things out, yeah, you make sureeverything makes sense, and then
we can move.
We're not going to act now andthen think later.
We're gonna think first and thenmake a good decision afterwards.
So um be patient um with yourwith your Libra and just know
(34:16):
that you know it's not gonna bea uh an expeditic process.
You you may be, you know,chilling for a little bit, and
that's cool.
You know, stop and smell theflowers.
Um so yeah, I would say that.
So obviously, don't you probablyshouldn't be trying to rush
them.
That's one of my pet peeves.
I hate to be rushed.
Um so I would say that's likethe biggest thing.
(34:43):
I would say that's the biggestthing, man.
Be patient and don't rush.
But um, I mean, other than that,what what you should know, like
Libras love to, we love to love,man.
Like we love, you know, we weare the romantic types, we are
the types to um, you know, we wedon't mind being in your
presence.
We we like to that quality timeand all that good stuff.
(35:06):
But at the same time, we likesolitude as well.
So, you know, I I can speak formyself.
Like I I love my time, you know,day in and all that too, but I
like my me time as well.
Like I it's it's it's timeswhere I don't want to be around
anybody, you know, and Iappreciate that that that
(35:29):
solitude.
Like that's my that's my pieceright there.
So yeah, I would say them twothings the patience, and just
know that um, you know, you maybe dealing with a Libra that.
Values his solitude as well.
So don't feel any type of way.
SPEAKER_00 (35:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (35:44):
Just know that, you know, brother needs didn't need
his time sometimes.
SPEAKER_00 (35:48):
That's good, man.
You know, all I could do isreally uh second that emotion
and kind of piggyback um off ofthat.
I I feel the same way.
You know, um, I I would evenprobably add uh to the fact of
uh, you know, for me, less ismore, right?
(36:09):
Less is more.
You don't have to do a wholelot, you you don't have to
overextend yourself.
Like I'm gonna look at it thesame way, right?
I'm gonna whether you do a wholelot or or whether you whether
you uh you know you're patientum with me.
So I'm the type that you knowyou don't have to prove yourself
(36:31):
to me.
Like just be who you are.
Uh you know, you know, there's alot of folks out there, man,
that feel like they need theyneed that reinforcement and
validation.
Um, I don't need that, Jay.
Like, you know, so so certainthings that you know may make a
person feel a little bit morecomfortable and confident and
(36:55):
and wanted and things like that,you know, if you learn a little
bit more about me, you know, Idon't necessarily need those
things, you know.
So I just want a person to begenuine.
Uh, I want a person to to uh getto know me, kind of learn me,
you know, uh, because you canask a person, well, well, tell
(37:17):
me what you like.
Well, I I can tell you what Idon't like, right?
It's easier if uh if I tell youwhat I don't like, because what
I do like is that I just like uhauthenticity, I just like
organic moments.
Like for me, man, there's noawkward silence because we we
don't have to talk.
(37:37):
Right.
There's no awkward silence.
You want to be quiet, cool.
I want to be quiet too.
I'm perfectly okay with with uhyou know silence.
It truly is golden.
Like I'm not tripping off ofthat.
And uh, you know, I just I justlike the process of discovering,
(37:58):
discovering what you like, uh,discovering you know what what
makes you happy, and just kindof rinsing, repeating those
things.
Doesn't have to be a wholevariety of things, or don't you
know need to have these uhinterventions and things like
that.
What works is what works.
So I would say uh to to any ladyout there that is deciding to
(38:22):
get to know um, you know, to getto know uh a Libra is what you
see is what you're gonna get.
Like we're we're really big onbalance.
So if if you have uh a highenergy, it's not that we're
gonna have a low energy, it'sjust that you know what goes up
(38:45):
must come down.
So there's gonna be some balanceto it.
So you know, so don't trip.
And really, man, just just enjoythose moments, man.
Cherish those moments, don'toverthink, don't overanalyze.
Allow every unique experience tobe just that, man.
Allow it to be unique.
And uh, you know, and that's allI got for them, man.
(39:05):
That's that's really all I cansay.
And and just uh again, enjoyevery moment and um be who you
are, you know, to the core.
So we can love that person.
SPEAKER_01 (39:19):
Yeah.
100% agree.
100% that's all they need.
That's all they need to know.
SPEAKER_00 (39:27):
Hey, look, we enjoy uh the fact that we get an
opportunity to share ourexperiences with you.
Of course, we talked about uhLibra lifestyle and lessons, and
uh, you know, we encourage youguys to embrace every single
day.
Tomorrow's not promise.
Make sure you tell somebody thatyou love them, make sure that
you enjoy every experience andmake each one unique.
(39:49):
So, with that being said, look,man, we enjoy you guys.
We appreciate you.
We're signing off, Pops and SunConversations.
It is your favorite still FoxRob Malloy.
SPEAKER_01 (39:58):
And it's Jay.
Check three times.
We out.
SPEAKER_00 (40:02):
We gone.
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