April 10, 2024 • 57 mins
Ever found yourself torn between the allure of high-end makeup and the practicality of drugstore finds? This week's beauty banter is all about navigating that very puzzle, promising you insider tips on when to indulge in the luxe and when to seize the steal. Our makeup bags are a testament to the beauty that lies in balance, blending the splurges with the saves. As we share tales from a recent girls' getaway turned impromptu beauty exchange, we peel back the curtain on what really goes into the price tag of your favorite products, from ingredients to packaging and marketing.
Hold onto your highlighters as we sashay through an abundance of beauty product recommendations—think of us as your personal shoppers for all things glam. Marvel at multi-use oils and serums that promise to rejuvenate your skin, and foundations that meld with your complexion like magic. We don't stop at just our own experiences; our friends have spilled their top-shelf secrets, too, featuring stalwarts like Armani and Chanel alongside faithful finds from L'Oreal and Il Makiage. Whether it's the foundation that won't quit in the heat or the skincare that's post-menopause-approved, we've sampled and scrutinized to bring you the crème de la crème.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
welcome back to the podcast.
Today we are going to dosomething really fun a
comparison between our favoritehigh and low-end makeup and skin
care for midlife to splurge orto dupe?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
that's the question, right ellen.
That is the question tish whodoesn't just love a good dupe to
a real high-end product, right?
I get so excited when I findsomething that is as good or at
least comparable, right?
So the question becomes whenshould we splurge and when
(00:41):
should we go for that moreeconomical substitute, right?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's a great question, and
there are some must-havehigher-end products that I just
can't live without, but the moreaffordable brands are getting
better and better all the time.
I see this.
So, my makeup bag, whether it'smy big makeup bag or the one in
my purse.
Both of them have a combinationof both high and low, and I
(01:10):
think most women are like that.
What about you, Tish?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know, ellen, it sounds like your makeup bag is
like that book, the Outsiders,where the greasers and the
socias are mixing but they'reliving together.
It's scandalous.
You know, elle, I know I had toreach out to a lot of our girl
tribe and I wanted to find outmore about what they wanted or
(01:38):
what their high and lows were,and so we could share some of
their favorites as well.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Oh, I love that.
I love that.
So this week Tish just for ourlisteners, we're not calling out
individual obsessions like weusually do, but we're gonna
share a link to our special Hilostorefront on our new Amazon
store.
So it is a special pagededicated to everything that we
talk about today.
(02:04):
I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think that's going to be great, and so, as any of
our listeners are listening tothis podcast today and you're
like, oh, I got to write thisname down or this product down,
don't even worry about it, go toour storefront.
They're all going to be there,so you'll be able to go through
them.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Excellent.
So I think our listeners knowthat we went on a big girls
getaway last fall and one rightone of my favorite parts was
seeing everybody's makeup bag,what they brought and using.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I needed to sample different hair products, makeup
stuff.
I mean I felt like we were backin college again.
What kind of blush are youusing?
Can I use that?
Get hair curler?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
you know it's so true .
I love that part and let metell you I walked away with a
few nuggets from it.
I had so much fun looking atwhat you, felicia, kristen and
Kathy had in their makeup bagsand really finding out why they
had that specific product.
You know what they liked aboutit, but the thing that really
(03:18):
struck me was the mix of highand low across everyone's makeup
bag.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You know I felt like I hit the lottery when I got to
be Femi's roommate, because Iwas knee deep in all kinds of
great products.
It was like a smorgasbord offacial care.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Not only facial care.
I have to say there were a lotof hair appliances in that room
too.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I fell in love with the one that sucks in your hair
and curls it until I heard theprice tag.
But it was real fun using itwhile I was there.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
We're going to talk about that later on, because I
invested in that too, and thencut my hair and I have nothing
to suck into the very expensivehair.
I'll give you my address.
Oh my gosh.
Well, you know, for me I alwaysassumed that one of the major
differences between like adrugstore like for me it's CVS
(04:20):
and the high-end formula werethe ingredients.
But I don't think it's stillthese days only the ingredients
or just the ingredients.
For me I think a lot of timesit's the design and the
packaging and how they reallymarket it right.
Those really contribute to alarge part to me of the
(04:42):
increased price of high-endmakeup large part to me of the
increased price of high-endmakeup.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You know, some of the high-end products do have some
better maybe formulations.
Sometimes you pay more foranimal like there's no animal
cruelty involved, things likethat and those are worth it and
those are worth it.
But sometimes it's really aboutthe color palette.
Sometimes those high-end onesjust nail this amazing new
(05:12):
colors and that perfect shadethat really grabs our attention.
But I will say the dupes aregetting better and better at
copying those.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know where I grew up in New Jersey, Tish.
It was L'Oreal, and Lancome hada very big production plant
there and I was so lucky aneighbor worked there.
I had access sometime to gointo the company store and it
really struck me that a lot ofthe things they were developing
for Lancome were also being usedin L'Oreal.
(05:47):
But I always felt like therewas a difference in the color
selection, like you were saying,with the Lancome products at
that time versus the L'Oreal.
So I think it's really come along way, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I would say so too.
You know, it's, I think with,especially with, social media,
where you can.
I love when they go and do halftheir face in the high end and
half their face in the low end,so you can really see the
difference, right and but it.
(06:24):
But sometimes it's that color,sometimes it just comes down to
the color.
So you've got to make thosedecisions right.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Right Big decisions and, as I said, I'm a mix of
high and low and I love to lookat.
Allure magazine has the best ofbeauty every year.
Yes, yeah, right it's such agreat mix of high and low,
really, um, products that spanthe bank, all the mix, and so I
get a lot of my informationthere.
(06:55):
But you're right, social mediahas really just opened it up
wide for us yeah, you know, Ithink a lot of the differences
too.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
There are some differences in the formulations,
I know for me I have a reallysensitive skin to anything that
has fragrance in it, so I alwaysam looking for that fragrance
free, that that you know, um soso, because otherwise, like
almost instantly, I'll start toitch, you know so.
I can really tell thedifference.
(07:25):
So yeah, so you got to lookbetween the performance, between
the high end and low end, and Ithink we have some of our we're
going to talk about ourfavorites in both camps.
Oh, yeah, and when I reached out, when I reached out to all the
friends.
There are some like they're notbudging from their high end
(07:46):
product.
You know there's some thatthey're just.
You know that's the only thingthey use, whether it's a mascara
or a foundation, and then otherthings it's like oh no, I use
this.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, it's true.
It's true, and I'm a realsucker, as I said, for the
packaging, or the fragrance-free, or the hypoallergenic, or
sometimes they say they're doneby dermatologists or scientists.
It's so true.
What each of us has is thatlever to choose whether we go
(08:23):
high or low.
All right, I just want us thento really dive in Tish and talk
about some of our favorites andsome of our friends.
So for me, let's start low end.
I really like CeraVe and mydermatologist has recommended it
(08:43):
.
I don't know about you withthat product.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
You know I've not used that one in particular, but
I have used, like I said,facial Luberderm.
That's kind of my low end thatI always kind of go to, and
again it's about thatfragrance-free, about that
lightness, and so it doesn'tmake me itch, but yeah, I've got
to try that CeraVe as well.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Right.
Another one that actually oneof my sons turned me on to is
from a company called theOrdinary, and it is a marula oil
and this company I mean thingsare like $10, $12.
That marula oil I can use on myface because I'm trying to dry
my cuticles it's some sort ofoil that is comes in a little
(09:34):
glass bottle.
Yeah, I think it is a nut.
I should have looked that up,but um it.
I can use it in my hair, youknow where.
It's a thing you can usewherever and the Ordinary makes
a lot of different oils that youcan use kind of across your
body.
And I also use a thing calledBliss Vitamin C.
(09:57):
I think Kathy Shea from ourgirl tribe was the first one
about 10 years ago that turnedme on to using a vitamin C serum
.
So those are a few things onthe skin as far as that area
that I like.
I know you like Lubriderm,anything else, high, low.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
You know I've tried like.
I have a friend of mine whosells like home product like, so
I've tried a lot of theirproducts and stuff that I've
really liked.
You know, that leaves your skinrather glowy, um, but I seem to
always tend back to theLuperderm because it seems to do
(10:37):
the job for me right now.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, I mean, one of the higher end products I love
is a company called OC O-S-E-A.
It's out of Malibu, california.
Right there, they had me Again awhole line of kind of ocean
scented facial cleanser, butbody oil and I don't know if
(11:02):
you're like me, tish, here youknow, menopause, post-menopause,
I can't get enough moisturizeron my body at this point, but I
had a facial last year and allthe products they used were from
OC and they just smelled lightnot heavy fragrance, because I
know you don't like that, butthat's a brand that I really
(11:26):
like and I know that Kristen andKathy also had that on our
girls trips.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yes, I didn't get into Kristen's bag, and that's
one I should have gotten intoand see what she's, you know,
because she has amazingcomplexion.
You know, for somebody as fairas she is, both Kathy and um,
kathy, shea and and uh, kristen,they're so fair but yet their
complexions are just amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I know I'm going to talk about one of Kristen's
secrets a little later on fromher home state of Vermont, so we
have something from her makeupbag.
But you know, I really lovethis low-end kind of foundation
called L'Oreal Skin Match and itis a blendable powder
foundation.
I've had this problem, tish,where a tinted moisturizer is
(12:17):
too light but a foundation feelstoo heavy a lot of days.
But this L'Oreal Skin Match 34shades, shades, amazing product
again CVS all the way.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well, me personally, what?
When I do use foundation and Idon't use it all the time?
I started off with that Elmaquillage that does the perfect
color matching, you know basedon a quiz.
And I'm sure everyone has seenall the social media where it's
just like amazing and it lookslike there's nothing on your
(12:52):
face.
So me, when I go to usesomething, that's what I tend to
use and I think it's moremiddle of the road.
Yeah, but they came bursting onthe scene or scene, or at least
came to my.
You know it was during thepandemic where you couldn't go
(13:12):
out and buy stuff like that, sothat was a big thing to be able
to to do that.
But one of our friends, kitty,she absolutely loves the Armani.
This is a high-end one, theArmani Luminous Silk Glow
Foundation.
I didn't even know she wore afoundation.
(13:33):
That's how amazing her skinlooks with that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I'm telling you she is somebody who has not gone out
in the sun a lot and you canreally tell at this point.
I did get into her makeup bagbecause if you remember, her
room was directly across fromthe room I was in and she also
had a lot of Tom Ford productsthat were really, really great.
I have to confess, after wewere putting down our things to
(14:01):
do this episode, I did order asample of El Maquillage and I
took the quiz and it came and itis really nice.
And you're right, it's not ahigh or a low, it's a middle of
the road.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, but I'm going to tell you I have had that and
I, like I said, I don't use itevery day.
It just goes so far though,like I've had it for quite a
while and been using it.
Now a good friend of mine,kelly she absolutely loves Estee
Lauder and Laura Mercier isanother one.
(14:38):
Yeah, mercier, and you know asfar as their foundations.
So those were her favoritepicks.
And then another friend of minethat I was quizzing because it
was funny how many people cameback with foundations.
They had real strong opinionson foundations and my friend,
sarah, said Chanel.
(14:59):
And she said now we're downhere in the South and so in the
summertime it's hard to wearfoundations because it kind of
melts off your face and she isdefinitely out in the public all
the time, so she'll do fullfoundation and even in the
Southern heat it will last allday for her.
(15:22):
So she swears by the Chanelfoundation, and that's another
person.
I had no idea she even worefoundation and I think I think
that's what you, I think that'swhat you should go to when
you're talking about foundation.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You shouldn't know when you know to have that more
natural look, yes, I love thatnatural look and I think, as we
age, one of our biggest.
My biggest concern is, like youknow, the older lady with the
wrinkles, with the foundationstuck in.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I don't know anything about that.
How do you like my island ofdenial?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Listen, you know this , but I had to get a 20X mirror
to learn how to put thesecontacts in, and I saw things
that I had no idea were on myface prior.
Listen, ladies.
If you want to really knowwhat's out there, just get a 20X
mirror.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
What's funny is we had another vote on El Makiash
and that was from Linda.
She swears by that and againthat color match kind of sold it
for her as well.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I love that Linda is into that, and I think she came
back with a few other thingswe're going to talk about today,
so thanks, linda, for sharingthat for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So I would say the second biggest response that I
got from our friends was to talkabout favorite mascara.
First it was the foundation.
That was what most peopleresponded, but second came back
with they were serious abouttheir foundation.
Now me, I'm typically on thelow end.
I absolutely love the L'OrealBig Sky Mascara and I was always
(17:11):
a huge fan of Better Than SexMascara.
Yes, and the one time I went inthere and the store that I was
buying for they were sold out orsomething of the better than
sex, and so I picked up this oneand the girl behind the counter
said people like this onebetter than that one.
(17:31):
I said, okay, so that one shejust absolutely swears by.
I recently, you know, triedanother one and I find that it's
all over my face almost rightaway.
It's like flaking and comingoff.
(17:52):
So I'm like I think I'm goingback to big sky.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You know, I know you were going to also say I think
Kitty swears by the TrishMcElroy.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, the dramatic lash mascara.
And she said, I mean, her eyesalways look amazing.
She's got those bright blueeyes and which, and?
But she again, being fair, shehas very pale lashes, so without
mascara they kind of get lost alittle bit.
And she said, with that one,one coat for daytime, but she
(18:25):
can put on multiple coats andit's almost like she's got, you
know um, a set of lashes on.
You know it's amazing yeah,well I.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I think, though we we also tried a mascara when we
were down there called thrive,right?
Ah, that was, yeah, faley'sthrive and tubular, so it
allegedly puts a tube over yourlash and then easily can easily
come off at the end of the night, right, I asked for that for
(19:01):
Christmas from some family and Igot it, but I don't like it.
I don't love it, like I thoughtI loved it down there Very
interesting.
I'm like Linda.
I still want that tube of pinkand green, is it?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
CoverGirl or.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Maybelline, right, you know.
I like is it Maybelline I thattells you where I'm at.
I like to change my mascara allthe time, like once I feel like
it gets clumpy.
I just want to throw it out andhave a new one.
(19:38):
So I don't want to invest a lotin it.
But I have to say I wasdisappointed with the Thrive.
I know other people love it.
You know, tish, I found thisthing and I might be late to the
party by about 30 years on this, but I was always getting
mascara on my eyelids or mylower eyelashes were so long.
(20:06):
But I got this kind of thing youput over your eye and you brush
your mascara on over it andthen you take it off and any
mascara is on this.
I will put a link to it.
I know I'm probably notexplaining it.
You know it's from Tweezerman,that brand Tweezerman that makes
the best tweezers ladies, Gottago with the Tweezerman, but
(20:31):
it's, you know it's like a $4thing but it's absolutely
amazing.
I do think if you ask memascara, I would choose mascara
over foundation as the numberone beauty product.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
What I'm not saying.
It's the number one beautyproduct, foundation.
More people had very specificopinions on that, so I got more
feedback on the foundations.
The second, the second biggestresponse I had was about
mascaras.
Yeah, Like a friend of mineSarah she swears by Mary Kay,
(21:08):
and it's been years since I'veused them.
You know, I don't think I've.
You know, we all used to getinvited to all those parties and
, um, I don't even, I don't evenknow if they do those anymore,
but um, yeah, so I was like huh,maybe I gotta try that again,
but when I when Linda remindedme about the pink and green, I
thought maybe I should do thatone yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I love that one.
All right, let's move on to anarea that I think is kind of new
, at least for me.
Again, I think I'm late to theparty.
It's serums, okay, okay, andKristen, in her makeup bag had a
lot of products by a Vermontbrand.
She's from Burlington, vermont,called Ursa Major Beauty, and
(21:58):
she let me use a lot of herdifferent products that she had.
But I became addicted to thisMountain Glow Serum and this
serum has 44 clean actives,adaptogens, vitamins, b, c, e, I
mean you name it and I loveusing this serum and again, it's
(22:19):
between a high and a low, youknow it's probably like $40 a
jar and a pump and I must haveput it on a, you know a repeat
and save kind of thing, becauseI went out in front and there
was a box there and I was like,oh, my god, it's my mountain
(22:40):
glow.
Serum Ursa Major I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I love it.
Does it give you a glow?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
It's not dewy, like I think you're thinking, like
it's not the dewy, it's just,you know.
Not dewy like I think you'rethinking, like it's not the dewy
, it's just, you know to all ofthe photo, esterols and
adaptants are supposed to makeyour skin glow.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
um, in that sense right, um, but I, you know I'm
obsessed about the glow.
I'm all about the glow, always.
You are all about the glow andmy friend kelly, like her
low-end lotion was the nivialotion, but the one with the
almond oil.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
She said it just gives her a great glow wow, yeah
, I mean I think there's, um,there's the idea of like the
dewy or a little bit of theopalescent in it.
These are more the serums I'mtalking about.
They're not glowy like that,but I love the dewy glowy.
(23:38):
I also use a brand calledSkinCeuticals which has one of
the, I think in the AllureBeauty or when I look around,
it's probably one of the mostused um, uh type of serums.
But I also kathy, um kathyboggs, from our friend group.
(24:01):
She gave me some keels you knowthat brand keels um k-e-i-l-s.
It's again it's.
I would say it's a low tomedium brand.
But she gave me a serum, likean overnight serum from them.
Amazing, I think you know.
Putting it on and then puttingon a heavier moisturizer, you
(24:22):
know, before bed has been reallyum, a good thing.
Now I know our friend Ellen.
She suggested a moisturizer aswell.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I think it's called Bianca.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Bianca, that's right.
That's right.
Bianca brand yeah, and that wasone I was not familiar with
either.
Is that like a California brand.
Do you know where that one'sfrom?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I don't know where that's from but I'll look it up.
But you know Ellen has a greatmakeup bag.
She was my roommate on the trip, Ellen and Ellen in the front
bedroom there.
She had a lot of reallybeautiful products there and I
know that Yonka was somethingthat she really liked for
(25:12):
moisturizer.
You know, Tish, I have thisstuff called Wish for crepey
skin.
Do you remember that?
It's like a really a good, agood one, I think, low end, less
than $20.
And I think to use it on thecrepey arms during the summer
and the crepey legs.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Have you ever used Wish?
I have not used Wish.
I had actually used Gold Bond,that's great.
It's a really good one and Ireally feel like that one works
because it does make me a littleitchy.
And I really feel like that oneworks because it does make me a
little itchy.
So I just felt like well, theremust be something going on
(25:55):
there.
But again, faley got me ontothat For me.
I love to be in the sun, to getthat fresh sun look to you.
I think it just makes you justlook so just awake and healthy
and whatnot.
But I've been trying not toexpose my face in particular to
(26:22):
a lot of sun.
But I still want thatsun-kissed look.
So I have found just a low endthe Lumi Glotion by L'Oreal just
makes you.
It just puts this ever so slightsheen to your cheeks, like you
get when you've been out in thesun for a couple of like two
hours.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Oh, I love that.
I'm going to check that one out.
You know I have used this otherbronzer for about 30 or 40
years, the Guerlain bronzer.
It comes in a compact and youcan just kind of put it on those
high cheekbones, but I likethis idea of the Lumi Glow, so
(27:00):
it's always great to talk toother women and find out about
these products yeah, products um, yeah, absolutely so, we.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So let's kind of move on.
Yeah, you know, after we, youknow, start talk.
Stop talking about the face,let's.
Let's face it.
It's all about the hair, right,and we have such changes with
our hair in midlife.
You know, um, what was so funnyis our one friend.
(27:33):
She was talking, she has somuch hair and I thought, laura.
Laura said, oh, I'm losing myhair Losing.
She's got like five times muchmore hair than I have.
It's so thick and full.
But again, it's whatever you'reused to.
It's dealing with how itchanges.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, and it is all relative, you're absolutely
right.
But big fear of mine is, youknow, having being bald, being
able to see my scalp, and youknow.
The other thing I noticed, tish, is our eyebrows, as we age,
are getting shorter.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I mean it's wild.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
So, all right, share with me some of the best hair
products that you've got.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
So with the hair, and this is a funny story too.
So my friend Constance, andagain she's got a lot of hair,
but it's thinner than it used tobe for her.
So we have both gone to thisrather odd dermatologist.
He's very good, harvard MedicalSchool educated.
(28:39):
He says crazy things.
So she goes in there and shementions I feel like my hair is
is is my hair is thinning.
He starts poking around and I'mtelling you she's got a lot of
hair.
Oh yeah, I see some bald spotsin there.
(29:00):
Oh, my gosh, rogaine, rogaine.
That's what he told her and hesaid do not bother with the
female Rogaine, Go right for themale Rogaine.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It's stronger.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Oh blah.
And I said do you think it'scancerous?
And he stops and he goes yeah,of course it is Like look how
fair you are, it's cancer, it'scancer.
I was like I was so traumatizedby his reaction, because you
say that we're cancer and and itjust flips people out and yeah,
(29:51):
he was just like of course itis, of course it is.
I was like oh dear lord.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Well, you know sometimes, whether it's bald
patches or cancer, we need adirect kind of communication
he's mr direct again, um, hispeople skills, but he's really
good at what he does.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
But this idea of the thinning hair, it's really for
women.
I think hair is a symbol oftheir femininity.
Right, it's one of the biggerthings that sets us apart from
men, you know for the most part.
But there's another productthat's incredibly awesome and
(30:37):
it's bumble thickening plumpmask.
And so you know, if you're not,if you don't want to go for
that rogue game which is nowover the counter, you don't have
to go and get prescriptions forit anymore, and because that'll
run you about $50.
But you know, people swear byit, especially if you're
(30:58):
addressing it early on.
But maybe just some thickeningplump mask.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I love it.
I mean, I definitely think hairis a big issue here at Midlife.
You know, for me it's been.
Should I go gray, shouldn't Igo gray?
But being a cancer survivor andbeing in Midlife, my hair has a
different texture.
It's so much different than itwas and the curl, it's less
(31:26):
curly than it was all thoseyears.
So you know, I feel like again,it's an area every woman I know
has a little bit of stressabout here at midlife.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
It does.
Even, like we were saying withLaura, who we think has like a
bounty of hair, it's not as muchas it used to be.
So it does work on you mentally, I know.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And her hair is gorgeous.
I want to put my little plug inhere for a product I've been
using, though, with the dryerhair.
This is called K18.
And I'm going to call this ahigh end because it's $75 plus.
It's a leave-in conditioner andthere is a colorist that I
(32:14):
follow on Instagram, jack Martin, and he takes women not gray,
but silver, beautiful silverhair.
I think he did Jane Fonda and afew other celebs.
I'm blanking on her name rightnow.
She was in three weddings and afuneral, four weddings and a
(32:35):
funeral.
Allie.
Anyway, he swears by K-18 andnow the hairstylist I go to she
also does it just conditionsyour hair so beautifully you
leave it in and you only needlike a little pea size.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
So the $75 jar can last you six months, but you
know if you're not able to swingthat.
$75, wow products oh my God,I'm a huge fan of wow.
Now, it's not super cheap, butit's kind of more of that middle
range.
(33:12):
It's usually around 20 bucks,you know, 20 to $30, but they're
anti-frizz.
I have a leave-in conditionerfrom them and it's wonderful.
It never leaves my hair feelingheavier, weighed down.
You wouldn't even know thatthere was a leave-in conditioner
in it.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I love the Wow products too and I have a
compact that I keep in my bag.
That's a little gray touch-upfrom Wow and it's the first Wow
product I had ever.
Now it must be like eight ornine years ago when I had to
start touching up that gray.
But it comes with a littlebrush and you can just do the
(33:55):
best touch-ups and it really gotme into Wow products and I
think their anti-frizz is asgood, I'm going to say, as the
K18.
I've also tried Olaplex, whichis another higher end brand.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I'm not as crazy about Olaplex as I am on some of
these other things that wetalked about, but if you do have
damage to your hair, that K18is really worth the investment.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
It is, and I know our friend Ellen also.
She can't live without theMoroccan oil luminous hairspray
and I did use that in the roomwhen we were in the Caymans.
That was a great one, you know,tish.
Here's where I'm going toconfess that I talked about
buying this Dyson I think it'scalled the hair system for like
(34:46):
over a year I'm sure all of myCalifornia friends were like
shuddy uppy and just buy thedamn thing.
So I did, and it comes in agiant box with like six or seven
you know attachments.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
It is so powerful Because you need a mortgage to
purchase it.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I've even heard that you can buy refurbished ones
online.
Kathy, our friend Kathy wastelling me this.
Of course, she does, becauseshe always finds the bargains.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
She knows the deal yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Okay, this thing is so strong that it has blown the
fuse in my bathroom like 30times.
I am not kidding you.
It does dry your hair soquickly.
But about two months after Iinvested in the system, I cut my
hair.
I bobbed my hair to my ears,from way below my shoulders.
(35:44):
I can't even use the spinnythings.
There's not even enough hairfor the spinny things, oh my
gosh, I know.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
So Thaley had that system, that Dyson system, and I
was loving it and I thought I'mgetting this when I go back,
until I heard the price tag.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Maybe not.
Well next time you're heremaybe we'll trade.
I can have your L'Elange Duo,which I've used in the past,
right.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, I love the Duo because you can use it as a
straightener, you can use it tocurl and the big thing about it
and for somebody who has thinhair like I do, like soft hair
or fine hair, as you want tocall it and Liduo heats it and
(36:39):
also cools it at the same time.
So there's a fan that goes onwith the Liduo.
That's what sets it apart fromother like just regular, you
know hair stuff.
So it sets that curl in.
So for me, when I do my hairwith Liduo, it allows the curl
to stay in for a long time, forhours, where if I just use a
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curling iron it's going to fallout in like 30, 40 minutes.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Interesting.
I didn't know what the duo wasof Le Duo, but now I do.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I think Le Duo for them means it can be a
straightener or a curler.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Okay, okay, not the okay, okay, not the hot or I
don't.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I don't think that's the reason that they call it la
duo.
I think it's because it's astraightener or curler,
depending on how you push itthrough your hair, but it's.
It's that fan part of it thatallows the curl or the
straightening to set.
Got it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
All right.
Well, I know we've alreadycovered skincare a little bit,
but I think there's a few otherthings we want to talk about
before we move on to sunscreenand wrapping up.
So what do we?
Speaker 2 (37:57):
got Tish, you know, here's the thing with the.
I get lost with this one.
There's so much out there thathas to do with anti-aging and,
and a lot of these products arewhen you really go high end,
because nothing scares usmidlifers more than wrinkles, us
(38:24):
midlifers more than wrinkles,right, you know, I agree
anything to to get rid ofwrinkles and stuff.
So there's a lot of stuff outthere, um, both high end and low
end, you know.
Um, now, elastin is a productthat you're familiar with, right
?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yes, I am familiar with that one that you're
familiar with right.
Yes, I am familiar with thatone.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I really like that one that's a high-end one, right
that reduces the fine lines andwrinkles, and so that was
probably the number one that Ikept hearing about over and over
and over when you talk abouthigh-end.
But Vogue had selected the bestone for deep wrinkles, right?
(39:04):
Or at least maybe the ones thatyou've neglected to deal with
your wrinkles, right, and yougot.
It's gone a little far, buttheirs was the Rock Retinol
Corrective Deep Wrinkle Anti Imean it has such a long name
corrective deep wrinkle anti Imean it has such a long name
(39:25):
anti-aging.
It covers everything nightcream, and that one comes in at
like $13.
So like $12.99,.
Right, and they listed that asthe best one.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I'm really glad you mentioned the Rocker ROC,
because they do have greatproducts and they're across a
number of things, whether it's anight cream, a serum, um and um
.
I noticed they always come outhigh in in that type of thing.
But I'm going to say somethingmaybe a little controversial
(39:55):
here.
I had, I had a lot of skindamage from being very fair and
tanning excessively, as you knowthrough college, and I regret
every moment of band de soleilin my life.
But I think if you're feelinglike you have age spots, if you
have sun damage, if you havewrinkles, go to a dermatologist,
(40:19):
get a prescription retinol.
I use a thing from mydermatologist.
She calls it the VAT.
It's like this big tub of allof these goodies together that
you have to like start once andonly go every three or four days
and you know it really does thejob, and I just I'm going to go
(40:40):
with that as my number onerecommendation.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
The next time I come out to visit, I might need to
like book an appointment withyour dermatologist.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
You need a vat to go, you need a vat to go.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, but it was.
It was funny again.
You know Faley as a roommateand I know she has used this one
product since college.
So she every day she uses pondcold cream to remove all of her
makeup and she swears it whatit's what has left her skin so
(41:21):
soft.
And she has religiously usedponds.
I think my grandmother usedponds, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I know my mom used ponds and she would put it on
every night before bed, in bedwith, like you know, her hair
pulled back.
Yes, I somehow have like badJoan Crawford from that movie.
Mommy Dearest of her with palmsall over.
Oh wow.
(41:49):
Well, I mean, we've touched onsunscreen a little bit here,
tish and I know again, this toois all over the place, from
like-end to high high-end.
I know that La Mer, which is abrand I always aspired to use
when I was younger, and Icouldn't afford it.
They have the Blanc de Mer SPF50 protecting fluid and
(42:17):
allegedly it has cell-renewingenergies and miracle broth.
I just want to know what the Fmiracle broth is.
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
But you know, I will say that a lot of the magazines
swear by this particular formulaas, yes, invest in this one.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I know.
Now for me, again, again.
This is from failey.
She had a glow screen, thesuper goop right, which is an
spf 40 um, so it's a skin, um,it's a glowy skin.
Oh, but it also had has hydrohydro.
(43:02):
I'm so bad at these names.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Hydrolonic hydro hydro yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Vitamin B5, you know so.
It has all this stuff in it.
It comes in kind of mid range,you know so you're talking mid.
You know 30s $30 for this one,right.
You know 30s uh, 30 dollars forthis one, right.
But in a comparison, you know,like a sun balm, they have some
(43:30):
great ones.
La roche pose, they have somegreat ones too.
Um, I would say, though, youknow, you should really expect
to spend at least a good $25 forgood sunscreen.
It's worth the investment tonot have to go to crazy
dermatologist, not to have to goget a bath, right.
So, after we've done all thiswonderful stuff to our skin, we
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need to make sure we'remaintaining it.
And so you want to make surethat you really have a good
sunscreen right, listen, my galsays repair, so repair the
damage and protect.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
It's all about a UPF hat and great sunscreen after
you repair all the damage you'vedone.
But you know, let's move on tolips Tish, because I know we've
got to wrap up soon and we bothhave some great ideas around
this.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
What do you think, can I, before we do that, you
had mentioned the eyebrows and Ithink that's really important.
Oh, you're right, you're right,you know, and I just I just
want to grab that, because thatagain is one of the youthful
pieces that makes a bigdifference on your face.
And so you know, the high endof, you know, solution to it is
(44:45):
microblading.
Don't go cheap on themicroblader.
Because if you go to a cheapplace that's like too good to be
true.
You're going to end up lookingcrazy.
You want somebody that can doit and make it look natural and
work with your eyes.
You know, definitely getrecommendations from friends for
(45:07):
microblading.
Would you get microblading done?
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Absolutely, in a hot minute, absolutely, and.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I do think my eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
You know I'm very bummed that they're getting to
be less and less.
But I do think that there aresome great brands.
I use Benefit.
It has a great eyebrow.
It's like a little tube, it'sliquid.
But a friend just recommendedLady Gaga has a makeup brand
called House Labs H-A-U-S.
(45:44):
This is from my friend, ourfriend Pookie.
Okay, a lot of high-end brandsand she swears by this eyebrow
pencil that makes like littlestrokes.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Oh, I love those yeah .
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, yeah, so we'll put a link to that there, but
yes, definitely.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
But if that's too rich for your blood, Elf has an
awesome one.
It's a brow lift and hasspecial applicator and stuff.
So if you're doing all thiswork, eyebrows do make you look
younger they do.
So it's definitely something toconsider.
You know, if you can affordmicroblading, go for it All
(46:24):
right.
Now let's go to the lips.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
All right, let's go to the lips.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Well, I think you have to start.
So, as we get older, our lipsget dry.
We have a lot of dry skinaround that we have.
So I think it's reallyimportant to use a scrub to
remove the dry skin to startwith.
Right, and a nice sugar scrubum, I know that, um, as far as a
(46:50):
high-end one, there's onecalled sugar lip, um polish
exfoliator, um, what wouldgently kind of, you know, uh, do
this treatment and then youknow, if you put lipstick on dry
lips, it's just gonna look amess, right.
So you gotta prep them and thenkeep them hydrated and stuff.
(47:13):
But if you can't, you know, and, and that's a high end at 18.
So it's not super high end, no,but Revlon has one and it's
called Kiss Sugar ScrubExfoliator and that's only like
$5.
So make sure you're starting itoff with, just like you would
(47:33):
your face with cleansing itproperly and treating it
properly.
Get in there with a good lipscrub.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
You know, I'm going to admit that I had no idea
there were lip scrubs, I think,for me, because chap lips are
not my thing, knock on wood.
Unless I'm up in the mountainsor something, I don't really
think about it too much.
I mean, I am a user of, like aBurt's Bees lip balm
(48:02):
occasionally, but this is allnew for me.
I'm going to have to try.
Maybe you know the Revlon lipscrub bomb, because I'm not
going to go high end on this.
Consider I've made it all theseyears and not used it.
But I am intrigued by this idea, you know, tish.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
So, once we have these, these soft lips, what are
we going to put on them?
Right, that's the question.
So hit me with your choices forlipstick.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Okay, well, I am, of course I know I've talked about
this before a lover of theClinique Black Honey.
I'm going to call it iconic.
It's iconic yeah, it looks goodon everyone.
I am also into Tom Ford.
He has an amazing lipstick andit's a breast cancer fundraiser.
(48:54):
And again, it's a very neutralcolor that looks good on
everyone.
And my new favorite is by abrand and again this is high-end
brand called Westman Atelier,and I believe that it's someone
named Gucci Westman who makesthis.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
And this is called Lip Suede.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
I mean who doesn't want lip suede?
Lip suede, I mean who doesn'twant lip suede?
And it has the cutest I'mshowing Tish because she can see
this, just the cutest packaging.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Great applicator, yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
And it has a magnet.
The top goes back on with amagnet.
Anyway, those are my three bigcolors.
I don't really have a lot ofother ones.
I do use a nude lip pencilagain that Pookie gave me and I
do like the idea of putting on alip pencil.
Again, I do not have dry lipsand I think a lot of ladies may
(49:52):
not like the lip pencil for that.
What about you?
I know your signature lipstick,but let's hear it Tish.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I have, over the years, tried different colors,
different brands.
I always go back to my lovefrom college Silver City, revlon
, silver City Pink yes, it isjust me, that's my signature
lipstick.
(50:21):
And then I do have some smalllines around my lips right now
in the silver city, you don'tsee it because it's a.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
It's a shinier lip, it's not a shiny and it's a very
light pink.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
when it goes on it's shiny, so you don't get that.
When I put on, say, a matte,that's darker, you can start to
see where it starts bleedinginto my little lines.
I don't like that.
So I think I'm going to thegrave with Silver City Pink,
sorry, well.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
I'm going to say the 1983, 1984, 1985 versions of the
two of us.
I was wearing black honey andyou were wearing silver city
pink.
I love it we have.
I think now we really want totalk about this balance, right
Tish, we want to talk aboutfinding that balance.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, I think too.
You know, sometimes you don'teven want to have lipstick on,
but I still think it's importantthat you go out with a good lip
balm, you know, and there's somany great ones out there.
What are some of your favorites?
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Well, I think I mentioned I do really like that
Burt's Bees brand and it's got.
I put them in stockings.
They make stocking stuffers.
Easter basket just little gifts.
Pink grapefruit coconut I'venever met a coconut product I
don't like in my life.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Oh yeah, they have a coconut pear one.
That is yummy, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
And they have just lip moisturizer, a lot of
beeswax.
It's tint free, it's natural,and so I really like that.
And you know what?
Again, like you can't take theseventies or the eighties out of
the girl, but give me achapstick, classic medicated lip
balm, right, the old chapstick.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
So it was so funny because my kids growing up would
lick their lips so much thatthey would have like huge red
marks around their mouth right.
Yeah the big chap.
The only thing that would getthem cleared up and fast was the
light blue.
It's in the light blue one, thechapstick, classic medicated
(52:39):
lip balm.
And I even remember seeinganother little boy and his were
so red and raw and they it.
You know it hurts them.
And they and I went over to themother and I said look I said
my kids do the same thing.
This is what you have to get.
But today, even if I'm, likeyou know, during you know
(53:01):
different seasons where my lipsdry out, or you know I, you know
I'll go back to that, I'llrevert back to that and it seems
to put my lips in a bettercondition.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
So, yeah, I love that .
I think maybe that's where it'scolder than here.
Um, I don't feel that, thatthat but it's so good to know
that when you need somethingthat's really, really strong,
that's a good one to go to.
But as we wrap up- I was goingto say.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
We've talked a lot about when to go high, when to
go low.
I really think it's aboutfinding that balance between the
two and staying within yourpersonal preferences, your
personal budget.
There's no sense in going brokeor putting yourself in that
situation just to have some nameproducts.
(53:51):
There's too many good dupes outthere.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
I agree Absolutely, and it's all about
self-expression, confidence,authenticity here at Midlife.
Knowing and understanding yourpersonal style goes into your
personal beauty routine as well.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
For everyone listening.
We're going to have a lot ofthese products posted on our
Amazon storefront, so if there'ssomething that you heard that
you want to try, or whatever,definitely visit us on our store
.
That one stop and you can pickup all these products.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Absolutely so.
As we wrap up today, I hopethat our listeners that you've
gained insight into high-end,low-end beauty products that we
think work for women at midlife.
And remember it's not about theprice tag at all, but how that
product makes you feel and whatworks for you.
(54:54):
Like for me, finding a cleanproduct like the Ursa Major
brand really works for me, andnot high-end.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Right, and I just want to give a big shout out to
some of our new listeners inPark Ridge, Illinois, and
Detroit Lakes, Minnesota, WhiteHouse Station, New Jersey and
even Sterling Virginia.
Thank you for joining us onthis podcast, you know.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yeah, welcome, I love it.
Right, so you know just this isjust one of the topics that I
think a lot of friends talkabout so much, so stay tuned for
more empowering discussions onnavigating midlife with style,
with grace, with confidence.
The stories, the wisdom, theinsights that we explore are not
(55:46):
really meant to be kept toourselves, but by sharing this
podcast with other women atmidlife, you're not just
spreading the knowledge orwhatever, but you're sparking
some inspiration, you'refostering connections and you're
building a community that'sfocused on support and
empowerment.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
Well said, tish.
I don't even know if I can topthat.
I really don't.
But you know, share with yourfriends, share the podcast,
share good news, share beauty,product right.
Really just share and buildyour community and this can be a
(56:28):
catalyst for someone else'stransformation, for igniting a
new perspective and for buildingthat community.
So what do we say till nextweek?
Midlifers, till next weekmidlifers Till next week.
welcome back to the podcast.
Today we are going to dosomething really fun a
comparison between our favoritehigh and low-end makeup and skin
care for midlife to splurge orto dupe?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
that's the question, right ellen.
That is the question tish whodoesn't just love a good dupe to
a real high-end product, right?
I get so excited when I findsomething that is as good or at
least comparable, right?
So the question becomes whenshould we splurge and when
(00:41):
should we go for that moreeconomical substitute, right?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's a great question, and
there are some must-havehigher-end products that I just
can't live without, but the moreaffordable brands are getting
better and better all the time.
I see this.
So, my makeup bag, whether it'smy big makeup bag or the one in
my purse.
Both of them have a combinationof both high and low, and I
(01:10):
think most women are like that.
What about you, Tish?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know, ellen, it sounds like your makeup bag is
like that book, the Outsiders,where the greasers and the
socias are mixing but they'reliving together.
It's scandalous.
You know, elle, I know I had toreach out to a lot of our girl
tribe and I wanted to find outmore about what they wanted or
(01:38):
what their high and lows were,and so we could share some of
their favorites as well.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Oh, I love that.
I love that.
So this week Tish just for ourlisteners, we're not calling out
individual obsessions like weusually do, but we're gonna
share a link to our special Hilostorefront on our new Amazon
store.
So it is a special pagededicated to everything that we
talk about today.
(02:04):
I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think that's going to be great, and so, as any of
our listeners are listening tothis podcast today and you're
like, oh, I got to write thisname down or this product down,
don't even worry about it, go toour storefront.
They're all going to be there,so you'll be able to go through
them.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Excellent.
So I think our listeners knowthat we went on a big girls
getaway last fall and one rightone of my favorite parts was
seeing everybody's makeup bag,what they brought and using.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I needed to sample different hair products, makeup
stuff.
I mean I felt like we were backin college again.
What kind of blush are youusing?
Can I use that?
Get hair curler?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
you know it's so true .
I love that part and let metell you I walked away with a
few nuggets from it.
I had so much fun looking atwhat you, felicia, kristen and
Kathy had in their makeup bagsand really finding out why they
had that specific product.
You know what they liked aboutit, but the thing that really
(03:18):
struck me was the mix of highand low across everyone's makeup
bag.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You know I felt like I hit the lottery when I got to
be Femi's roommate, because Iwas knee deep in all kinds of
great products.
It was like a smorgasbord offacial care.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Not only facial care.
I have to say there were a lotof hair appliances in that room
too.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I fell in love with the one that sucks in your hair
and curls it until I heard theprice tag.
But it was real fun using itwhile I was there.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
We're going to talk about that later on, because I
invested in that too, and thencut my hair and I have nothing
to suck into the very expensivehair.
I'll give you my address.
Oh my gosh.
Well, you know, for me I alwaysassumed that one of the major
differences between like adrugstore like for me it's CVS
(04:20):
and the high-end formula werethe ingredients.
But I don't think it's stillthese days only the ingredients
or just the ingredients.
For me I think a lot of timesit's the design and the
packaging and how they reallymarket it right.
Those really contribute to alarge part to me of the
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increased price of high-endmakeup large part to me of the
increased price of high-endmakeup.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You know, some of the high-end products do have some
better maybe formulations.
Sometimes you pay more foranimal like there's no animal
cruelty involved, things likethat and those are worth it and
those are worth it.
But sometimes it's really aboutthe color palette.
Sometimes those high-end onesjust nail this amazing new
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colors and that perfect shadethat really grabs our attention.
But I will say the dupes aregetting better and better at
copying those.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know where I grew up in New Jersey, Tish.
It was L'Oreal, and Lancome hada very big production plant
there and I was so lucky aneighbor worked there.
I had access sometime to gointo the company store and it
really struck me that a lot ofthe things they were developing
for Lancome were also being usedin L'Oreal.
(05:47):
But I always felt like therewas a difference in the color
selection, like you were saying,with the Lancome products at
that time versus the L'Oreal.
So I think it's really come along way, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I would say so too.
You know, it's, I think with,especially with, social media,
where you can.
I love when they go and do halftheir face in the high end and
half their face in the low end,so you can really see the
difference, right and but it.
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But sometimes it's that color,sometimes it just comes down to
the color.
So you've got to make thosedecisions right.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Right Big decisions and, as I said, I'm a mix of
high and low and I love to lookat.
Allure magazine has the best ofbeauty every year.
Yes, yeah, right it's such agreat mix of high and low,
really, um, products that spanthe bank, all the mix, and so I
get a lot of my informationthere.
(06:55):
But you're right, social mediahas really just opened it up
wide for us yeah, you know, Ithink a lot of the differences
too.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
There are some differences in the formulations,
I know for me I have a reallysensitive skin to anything that
has fragrance in it, so I alwaysam looking for that fragrance
free, that that you know, um soso, because otherwise, like
almost instantly, I'll start toitch, you know so.
I can really tell thedifference.
(07:25):
So yeah, so you got to lookbetween the performance, between
the high end and low end, and Ithink we have some of our we're
going to talk about ourfavorites in both camps.
Oh, yeah, and when I reached out, when I reached out to all the
friends.
There are some like they're notbudging from their high end
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product.
You know there's some thatthey're just.
You know that's the only thingthey use, whether it's a mascara
or a foundation, and then otherthings it's like oh no, I use
this.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, it's true.
It's true, and I'm a realsucker, as I said, for the
packaging, or the fragrance-free, or the hypoallergenic, or
sometimes they say they're doneby dermatologists or scientists.
It's so true.
What each of us has is thatlever to choose whether we go
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high or low.
All right, I just want us thento really dive in Tish and talk
about some of our favorites andsome of our friends.
So for me, let's start low end.
I really like CeraVe and mydermatologist has recommended it
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.
I don't know about you withthat product.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
You know I've not used that one in particular, but
I have used, like I said,facial Luberderm.
That's kind of my low end thatI always kind of go to, and
again it's about thatfragrance-free, about that
lightness, and so it doesn'tmake me itch, but yeah, I've got
to try that CeraVe as well.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Right.
Another one that actually oneof my sons turned me on to is
from a company called theOrdinary, and it is a marula oil
and this company I mean thingsare like $10, $12.
That marula oil I can use on myface because I'm trying to dry
my cuticles it's some sort ofoil that is comes in a little
(09:34):
glass bottle.
Yeah, I think it is a nut.
I should have looked that up,but um it.
I can use it in my hair, youknow where.
It's a thing you can usewherever and the Ordinary makes
a lot of different oils that youcan use kind of across your
body.
And I also use a thing calledBliss Vitamin C.
(09:57):
I think Kathy Shea from ourgirl tribe was the first one
about 10 years ago that turnedme on to using a vitamin C serum
.
So those are a few things onthe skin as far as that area
that I like.
I know you like Lubriderm,anything else, high, low.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
You know I've tried like.
I have a friend of mine whosells like home product like, so
I've tried a lot of theirproducts and stuff that I've
really liked.
You know, that leaves your skinrather glowy, um, but I seem to
always tend back to theLuperderm because it seems to do
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the job for me right now.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, I mean, one of the higher end products I love
is a company called OC O-S-E-A.
It's out of Malibu, california.
Right there, they had me Again awhole line of kind of ocean
scented facial cleanser, butbody oil and I don't know if
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you're like me, tish, here youknow, menopause, post-menopause,
I can't get enough moisturizeron my body at this point, but I
had a facial last year and allthe products they used were from
OC and they just smelled lightnot heavy fragrance, because I
know you don't like that, butthat's a brand that I really
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like and I know that Kristen andKathy also had that on our
girls trips.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yes, I didn't get into Kristen's bag, and that's
one I should have gotten intoand see what she's, you know,
because she has amazingcomplexion.
You know, for somebody as fairas she is, both Kathy and um,
kathy, shea and and uh, kristen,they're so fair but yet their
complexions are just amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I know I'm going to talk about one of Kristen's
secrets a little later on fromher home state of Vermont, so we
have something from her makeupbag.
But you know, I really lovethis low-end kind of foundation
called L'Oreal Skin Match and itis a blendable powder
foundation.
I've had this problem, tish,where a tinted moisturizer is
(12:17):
too light but a foundation feelstoo heavy a lot of days.
But this L'Oreal Skin Match 34shades, shades, amazing product
again CVS all the way.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well, me personally, what?
When I do use foundation and Idon't use it all the time?
I started off with that Elmaquillage that does the perfect
color matching, you know basedon a quiz.
And I'm sure everyone has seenall the social media where it's
just like amazing and it lookslike there's nothing on your
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face.
So me, when I go to usesomething, that's what I tend to
use and I think it's moremiddle of the road.
Yeah, but they came bursting onthe scene or scene, or at least
came to my.
You know it was during thepandemic where you couldn't go
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out and buy stuff like that, sothat was a big thing to be able
to to do that.
But one of our friends, kitty,she absolutely loves the Armani.
This is a high-end one, theArmani Luminous Silk Glow
Foundation.
I didn't even know she wore afoundation.
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That's how amazing her skinlooks with that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I'm telling you she is somebody who has not gone out
in the sun a lot and you canreally tell at this point.
I did get into her makeup bagbecause if you remember, her
room was directly across fromthe room I was in and she also
had a lot of Tom Ford productsthat were really, really great.
I have to confess, after wewere putting down our things to
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do this episode, I did order asample of El Maquillage and I
took the quiz and it came and itis really nice.
And you're right, it's not ahigh or a low, it's a middle of
the road.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, but I'm going to tell you I have had that and
I, like I said, I don't use itevery day.
It just goes so far though,like I've had it for quite a
while and been using it.
Now a good friend of mine,kelly she absolutely loves Estee
Lauder and Laura Mercier isanother one.
(14:38):
Yeah, mercier, and you know asfar as their foundations.
So those were her favoritepicks.
And then another friend of minethat I was quizzing because it
was funny how many people cameback with foundations.
They had real strong opinionson foundations and my friend,
sarah, said Chanel.
(14:59):
And she said now we're downhere in the South and so in the
summertime it's hard to wearfoundations because it kind of
melts off your face and she isdefinitely out in the public all
the time, so she'll do fullfoundation and even in the
Southern heat it will last allday for her.
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So she swears by the Chanelfoundation, and that's another
person.
I had no idea she even worefoundation and I think I think
that's what you, I think that'swhat you should go to when
you're talking about foundation.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You shouldn't know when you know to have that more
natural look, yes, I love thatnatural look and I think, as we
age, one of our biggest.
My biggest concern is, like youknow, the older lady with the
wrinkles, with the foundationstuck in.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I don't know anything about that.
How do you like my island ofdenial?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Listen, you know this , but I had to get a 20X mirror
to learn how to put thesecontacts in, and I saw things
that I had no idea were on myface prior.
Listen, ladies.
If you want to really knowwhat's out there, just get a 20X
mirror.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
What's funny is we had another vote on El Makiash
and that was from Linda.
She swears by that and againthat color match kind of sold it
for her as well.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I love that Linda is into that, and I think she came
back with a few other thingswe're going to talk about today,
so thanks, linda, for sharingthat for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So I would say the second biggest response that I
got from our friends was to talkabout favorite mascara.
First it was the foundation.
That was what most peopleresponded, but second came back
with they were serious abouttheir foundation.
Now me, I'm typically on thelow end.
I absolutely love the L'OrealBig Sky Mascara and I was always
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a huge fan of Better Than SexMascara.
Yes, and the one time I went inthere and the store that I was
buying for they were sold out orsomething of the better than
sex, and so I picked up this oneand the girl behind the counter
said people like this onebetter than that one.
(17:31):
I said, okay, so that one shejust absolutely swears by.
I recently, you know, triedanother one and I find that it's
all over my face almost rightaway.
It's like flaking and comingoff.
(17:52):
So I'm like I think I'm goingback to big sky.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You know, I know you were going to also say I think
Kitty swears by the TrishMcElroy.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, the dramatic lash mascara.
And she said, I mean, her eyesalways look amazing.
She's got those bright blueeyes and which, and?
But she again, being fair, shehas very pale lashes, so without
mascara they kind of get lost alittle bit.
And she said, with that one,one coat for daytime, but she
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can put on multiple coats andit's almost like she's got, you
know um, a set of lashes on.
You know it's amazing yeah,well I.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I think, though we we also tried a mascara when we
were down there called thrive,right?
Ah, that was, yeah, faley'sthrive and tubular, so it
allegedly puts a tube over yourlash and then easily can easily
come off at the end of the night, right, I asked for that for
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Christmas from some family and Igot it, but I don't like it.
I don't love it, like I thoughtI loved it down there Very
interesting.
I'm like Linda.
I still want that tube of pinkand green, is it?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
CoverGirl or.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Maybelline, right, you know.
I like is it Maybelline I thattells you where I'm at.
I like to change my mascara allthe time, like once I feel like
it gets clumpy.
I just want to throw it out andhave a new one.
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So I don't want to invest a lotin it.
But I have to say I wasdisappointed with the Thrive.
I know other people love it.
You know, tish, I found thisthing and I might be late to the
party by about 30 years on this, but I was always getting
mascara on my eyelids or mylower eyelashes were so long.
(20:06):
But I got this kind of thing youput over your eye and you brush
your mascara on over it andthen you take it off and any
mascara is on this.
I will put a link to it.
I know I'm probably notexplaining it.
You know it's from Tweezerman,that brand Tweezerman that makes
the best tweezers ladies, Gottago with the Tweezerman, but
(20:31):
it's, you know it's like a $4thing but it's absolutely
amazing.
I do think if you ask memascara, I would choose mascara
over foundation as the numberone beauty product.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
What I'm not saying.
It's the number one beautyproduct, foundation.
More people had very specificopinions on that, so I got more
feedback on the foundations.
The second, the second biggestresponse I had was about
mascaras.
Yeah, Like a friend of mineSarah she swears by Mary Kay,
(21:08):
and it's been years since I'veused them.
You know, I don't think I've.
You know, we all used to getinvited to all those parties and
, um, I don't even, I don't evenknow if they do those anymore,
but um, yeah, so I was like huh,maybe I gotta try that again,
but when I when Linda remindedme about the pink and green, I
thought maybe I should do thatone yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I love that one.
All right, let's move on to anarea that I think is kind of new
, at least for me.
Again, I think I'm late to theparty.
It's serums, okay, okay, andKristen, in her makeup bag had a
lot of products by a Vermontbrand.
She's from Burlington, vermont,called Ursa Major Beauty, and
(21:58):
she let me use a lot of herdifferent products that she had.
But I became addicted to thisMountain Glow Serum and this
serum has 44 clean actives,adaptogens, vitamins, b, c, e, I
mean you name it and I loveusing this serum and again, it's
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between a high and a low, youknow it's probably like $40 a
jar and a pump and I must haveput it on a, you know a repeat
and save kind of thing, becauseI went out in front and there
was a box there and I was like,oh, my god, it's my mountain
(22:40):
glow.
Serum Ursa Major I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I love it.
Does it give you a glow?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
It's not dewy, like I think you're thinking, like
it's not the dewy, it's just,you know.
Not dewy like I think you'rethinking, like it's not the dewy
, it's just, you know to all ofthe photo, esterols and
adaptants are supposed to makeyour skin glow.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
um, in that sense right, um, but I, you know I'm
obsessed about the glow.
I'm all about the glow, always.
You are all about the glow andmy friend kelly, like her
low-end lotion was the nivialotion, but the one with the
almond oil.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
She said it just gives her a great glow wow, yeah
, I mean I think there's, um,there's the idea of like the
dewy or a little bit of theopalescent in it.
These are more the serums I'mtalking about.
They're not glowy like that,but I love the dewy glowy.
(23:38):
I also use a brand calledSkinCeuticals which has one of
the, I think in the AllureBeauty or when I look around,
it's probably one of the mostused um, uh type of serums.
But I also kathy, um kathyboggs, from our friend group.
(24:01):
She gave me some keels you knowthat brand keels um k-e-i-l-s.
It's again it's.
I would say it's a low tomedium brand.
But she gave me a serum, likean overnight serum from them.
Amazing, I think you know.
Putting it on and then puttingon a heavier moisturizer, you
(24:22):
know, before bed has been reallyum, a good thing.
Now I know our friend Ellen.
She suggested a moisturizer aswell.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I think it's called Bianca.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Bianca, that's right.
That's right.
Bianca brand yeah, and that wasone I was not familiar with
either.
Is that like a California brand.
Do you know where that one'sfrom?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I don't know where that's from but I'll look it up.
But you know Ellen has a greatmakeup bag.
She was my roommate on the trip, Ellen and Ellen in the front
bedroom there.
She had a lot of reallybeautiful products there and I
know that Yonka was somethingthat she really liked for
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moisturizer.
You know, Tish, I have thisstuff called Wish for crepey
skin.
Do you remember that?
It's like a really a good, agood one, I think, low end, less
than $20.
And I think to use it on thecrepey arms during the summer
and the crepey legs.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Have you ever used Wish?
I have not used Wish.
I had actually used Gold Bond,that's great.
It's a really good one and Ireally feel like that one works
because it does make me a littleitchy.
And I really feel like that oneworks because it does make me a
little itchy.
So I just felt like well, theremust be something going on
(25:55):
there.
But again, faley got me ontothat For me.
I love to be in the sun, to getthat fresh sun look to you.
I think it just makes you justlook so just awake and healthy
and whatnot.
But I've been trying not toexpose my face in particular to
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a lot of sun.
But I still want thatsun-kissed look.
So I have found just a low endthe Lumi Glotion by L'Oreal just
makes you.
It just puts this ever so slightsheen to your cheeks, like you
get when you've been out in thesun for a couple of like two
hours.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Oh, I love that.
I'm going to check that one out.
You know I have used this otherbronzer for about 30 or 40
years, the Guerlain bronzer.
It comes in a compact and youcan just kind of put it on those
high cheekbones, but I likethis idea of the Lumi Glow, so
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it's always great to talk toother women and find out about
these products yeah, products um, yeah, absolutely so, we.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So let's kind of move on.
Yeah, you know, after we, youknow, start talk.
Stop talking about the face,let's.
Let's face it.
It's all about the hair, right,and we have such changes with
our hair in midlife.
You know, um, what was so funnyis our one friend.
(27:33):
She was talking, she has somuch hair and I thought, laura.
Laura said, oh, I'm losing myhair Losing.
She's got like five times muchmore hair than I have.
It's so thick and full.
But again, it's whatever you'reused to.
It's dealing with how itchanges.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, and it is all relative, you're absolutely
right.
But big fear of mine is, youknow, having being bald, being
able to see my scalp, and youknow.
The other thing I noticed, tish, is our eyebrows, as we age,
are getting shorter.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I mean it's wild.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
So, all right, share with me some of the best hair
products that you've got.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
So with the hair, and this is a funny story too.
So my friend Constance, andagain she's got a lot of hair,
but it's thinner than it used tobe for her.
So we have both gone to thisrather odd dermatologist.
He's very good, harvard MedicalSchool educated.
(28:39):
He says crazy things.
So she goes in there and shementions I feel like my hair is
is is my hair is thinning.
He starts poking around and I'mtelling you she's got a lot of
hair.
Oh yeah, I see some bald spotsin there.
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Oh, my gosh, rogaine, rogaine.
That's what he told her and hesaid do not bother with the
female Rogaine, Go right for themale Rogaine.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It's stronger.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Oh blah.
And I said do you think it'scancerous?
And he stops and he goes yeah,of course it is Like look how
fair you are, it's cancer, it'scancer.
I was like I was so traumatizedby his reaction, because you
say that we're cancer and and itjust flips people out and yeah,
(29:51):
he was just like of course itis, of course it is.
I was like oh dear lord.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Well, you know sometimes, whether it's bald
patches or cancer, we need adirect kind of communication
he's mr direct again, um, hispeople skills, but he's really
good at what he does.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
But this idea of the thinning hair, it's really for
women.
I think hair is a symbol oftheir femininity.
Right, it's one of the biggerthings that sets us apart from
men, you know for the most part.
But there's another productthat's incredibly awesome and
(30:37):
it's bumble thickening plumpmask.
And so you know, if you're not,if you don't want to go for
that rogue game which is nowover the counter, you don't have
to go and get prescriptions forit anymore, and because that'll
run you about $50.
But you know, people swear byit, especially if you're
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addressing it early on.
But maybe just some thickeningplump mask.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I love it.
I mean, I definitely think hairis a big issue here at Midlife.
You know, for me it's been.
Should I go gray, shouldn't Igo gray?
But being a cancer survivor andbeing in Midlife, my hair has a
different texture.
It's so much different than itwas and the curl, it's less
(31:26):
curly than it was all thoseyears.
So you know, I feel like again,it's an area every woman I know
has a little bit of stressabout here at midlife.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
It does.
Even, like we were saying withLaura, who we think has like a
bounty of hair, it's not as muchas it used to be.
So it does work on you mentally, I know.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And her hair is gorgeous.
I want to put my little plug inhere for a product I've been
using, though, with the dryerhair.
This is called K18.
And I'm going to call this ahigh end because it's $75 plus.
It's a leave-in conditioner andthere is a colorist that I
(32:14):
follow on Instagram, jack Martin, and he takes women not gray,
but silver, beautiful silverhair.
I think he did Jane Fonda and afew other celebs.
I'm blanking on her name rightnow.
She was in three weddings and afuneral, four weddings and a
(32:35):
funeral.
Allie.
Anyway, he swears by K-18 andnow the hairstylist I go to she
also does it just conditionsyour hair so beautifully you
leave it in and you only needlike a little pea size.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
So the $75 jar can last you six months, but you
know if you're not able to swingthat.
$75, wow products oh my God,I'm a huge fan of wow.
Now, it's not super cheap, butit's kind of more of that middle
range.
(33:12):
It's usually around 20 bucks,you know, 20 to $30, but they're
anti-frizz.
I have a leave-in conditionerfrom them and it's wonderful.
It never leaves my hair feelingheavier, weighed down.
You wouldn't even know thatthere was a leave-in conditioner
in it.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I love the Wow products too and I have a
compact that I keep in my bag.
That's a little gray touch-upfrom Wow and it's the first Wow
product I had ever.
Now it must be like eight ornine years ago when I had to
start touching up that gray.
But it comes with a littlebrush and you can just do the
(33:55):
best touch-ups and it really gotme into Wow products and I
think their anti-frizz is asgood, I'm going to say, as the
K18.
I've also tried Olaplex, whichis another higher end brand.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I'm not as crazy about Olaplex as I am on some of
these other things that wetalked about, but if you do have
damage to your hair, that K18is really worth the investment.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
It is, and I know our friend Ellen also.
She can't live without theMoroccan oil luminous hairspray
and I did use that in the roomwhen we were in the Caymans.
That was a great one, you know,tish.
Here's where I'm going toconfess that I talked about
buying this Dyson I think it'scalled the hair system for like
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over a year I'm sure all of myCalifornia friends were like
shuddy uppy and just buy thedamn thing.
So I did, and it comes in agiant box with like six or seven
you know attachments.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
It is so powerful Because you need a mortgage to
purchase it.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I've even heard that you can buy refurbished ones
online.
Kathy, our friend Kathy wastelling me this.
Of course, she does, becauseshe always finds the bargains.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
She knows the deal yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Okay, this thing is so strong that it has blown the
fuse in my bathroom like 30times.
I am not kidding you.
It does dry your hair soquickly.
But about two months after Iinvested in the system, I cut my
hair.
I bobbed my hair to my ears,from way below my shoulders.
(35:44):
I can't even use the spinnythings.
There's not even enough hairfor the spinny things, oh my
gosh, I know.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
So Thaley had that system, that Dyson system, and I
was loving it and I thought I'mgetting this when I go back,
until I heard the price tag.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Maybe not.
Well next time you're heremaybe we'll trade.
I can have your L'Elange Duo,which I've used in the past,
right.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, I love the Duo because you can use it as a
straightener, you can use it tocurl and the big thing about it
and for somebody who has thinhair like I do, like soft hair
or fine hair, as you want tocall it and Liduo heats it and
(36:39):
also cools it at the same time.
So there's a fan that goes onwith the Liduo.
That's what sets it apart fromother like just regular, you
know hair stuff.
So it sets that curl in.
So for me, when I do my hairwith Liduo, it allows the curl
to stay in for a long time, forhours, where if I just use a
(37:04):
curling iron it's going to fallout in like 30, 40 minutes.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Interesting.
I didn't know what the duo wasof Le Duo, but now I do.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I think Le Duo for them means it can be a
straightener or a curler.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Okay, okay, not the okay, okay, not the hot or I
don't.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I don't think that's the reason that they call it la
duo.
I think it's because it's astraightener or curler,
depending on how you push itthrough your hair, but it's.
It's that fan part of it thatallows the curl or the
straightening to set.
Got it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
All right.
Well, I know we've alreadycovered skincare a little bit,
but I think there's a few otherthings we want to talk about
before we move on to sunscreenand wrapping up.
So what do we?
Speaker 2 (37:57):
got Tish, you know, here's the thing with the.
I get lost with this one.
There's so much out there thathas to do with anti-aging and,
and a lot of these products arewhen you really go high end,
because nothing scares usmidlifers more than wrinkles, us
(38:24):
midlifers more than wrinkles,right, you know, I agree
anything to to get rid ofwrinkles and stuff.
So there's a lot of stuff outthere, um, both high end and low
end, you know.
Um, now, elastin is a productthat you're familiar with, right
?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yes, I am familiar with that one that you're
familiar with right.
Yes, I am familiar with thatone.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I really like that one that's a high-end one, right
that reduces the fine lines andwrinkles, and so that was
probably the number one that Ikept hearing about over and over
and over when you talk abouthigh-end.
But Vogue had selected the bestone for deep wrinkles, right?
(39:04):
Or at least maybe the ones thatyou've neglected to deal with
your wrinkles, right, and yougot.
It's gone a little far, buttheirs was the Rock Retinol
Corrective Deep Wrinkle Anti Imean it has such a long name
corrective deep wrinkle anti Imean it has such a long name
(39:25):
anti-aging.
It covers everything nightcream, and that one comes in at
like $13.
So like $12.99,.
Right, and they listed that asthe best one.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I'm really glad you mentioned the Rocker ROC,
because they do have greatproducts and they're across a
number of things, whether it's anight cream, a serum, um and um
.
I noticed they always come outhigh in in that type of thing.
But I'm going to say somethingmaybe a little controversial
(39:55):
here.
I had, I had a lot of skindamage from being very fair and
tanning excessively, as you knowthrough college, and I regret
every moment of band de soleilin my life.
But I think if you're feelinglike you have age spots, if you
have sun damage, if you havewrinkles, go to a dermatologist,
(40:19):
get a prescription retinol.
I use a thing from mydermatologist.
She calls it the VAT.
It's like this big tub of allof these goodies together that
you have to like start once andonly go every three or four days
and you know it really does thejob, and I just I'm going to go
(40:40):
with that as my number onerecommendation.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
The next time I come out to visit, I might need to
like book an appointment withyour dermatologist.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
You need a vat to go, you need a vat to go.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, but it was.
It was funny again.
You know Faley as a roommateand I know she has used this one
product since college.
So she every day she uses pondcold cream to remove all of her
makeup and she swears it whatit's what has left her skin so
(41:21):
soft.
And she has religiously usedponds.
I think my grandmother usedponds, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I know my mom used ponds and she would put it on
every night before bed, in bedwith, like you know, her hair
pulled back.
Yes, I somehow have like badJoan Crawford from that movie.
Mommy Dearest of her with palmsall over.
Oh wow.
(41:49):
Well, I mean, we've touched onsunscreen a little bit here,
tish and I know again, this toois all over the place, from
like-end to high high-end.
I know that La Mer, which is abrand I always aspired to use
when I was younger, and Icouldn't afford it.
They have the Blanc de Mer SPF50 protecting fluid and
(42:17):
allegedly it has cell-renewingenergies and miracle broth.
I just want to know what the Fmiracle broth is.
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
But you know, I will say that a lot of the magazines
swear by this particular formulaas, yes, invest in this one.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I know.
Now for me, again, again.
This is from failey.
She had a glow screen, thesuper goop right, which is an
spf 40 um, so it's a skin, um,it's a glowy skin.
Oh, but it also had has hydrohydro.
(43:02):
I'm so bad at these names.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Hydrolonic hydro hydro yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Vitamin B5, you know so.
It has all this stuff in it.
It comes in kind of mid range,you know so you're talking mid.
You know 30s $30 for this one,right.
You know 30s uh, 30 dollars forthis one, right.
But in a comparison, you know,like a sun balm, they have some
(43:30):
great ones.
La roche pose, they have somegreat ones too.
Um, I would say, though, youknow, you should really expect
to spend at least a good $25 forgood sunscreen.
It's worth the investment tonot have to go to crazy
dermatologist, not to have to goget a bath, right.
So, after we've done all thiswonderful stuff to our skin, we
(43:55):
need to make sure we'remaintaining it.
And so you want to make surethat you really have a good
sunscreen right, listen, my galsays repair, so repair the
damage and protect.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
It's all about a UPF hat and great sunscreen after
you repair all the damage you'vedone.
But you know, let's move on tolips Tish, because I know we've
got to wrap up soon and we bothhave some great ideas around
this.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
What do you think, can I, before we do that, you
had mentioned the eyebrows and Ithink that's really important.
Oh, you're right, you're right,you know, and I just I just
want to grab that, because thatagain is one of the youthful
pieces that makes a bigdifference on your face.
And so you know, the high endof, you know, solution to it is
(44:45):
microblading.
Don't go cheap on themicroblader.
Because if you go to a cheapplace that's like too good to be
true.
You're going to end up lookingcrazy.
You want somebody that can doit and make it look natural and
work with your eyes.
You know, definitely getrecommendations from friends for
(45:07):
microblading.
Would you get microblading done?
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Absolutely, in a hot minute, absolutely, and.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I do think my eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
You know I'm very bummed that they're getting to
be less and less.
But I do think that there aresome great brands.
I use Benefit.
It has a great eyebrow.
It's like a little tube, it'sliquid.
But a friend just recommendedLady Gaga has a makeup brand
called House Labs H-A-U-S.
(45:44):
This is from my friend, ourfriend Pookie.
Okay, a lot of high-end brandsand she swears by this eyebrow
pencil that makes like littlestrokes.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Oh, I love those yeah .
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, yeah, so we'll put a link to that there, but
yes, definitely.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
But if that's too rich for your blood, Elf has an
awesome one.
It's a brow lift and hasspecial applicator and stuff.
So if you're doing all thiswork, eyebrows do make you look
younger they do.
So it's definitely something toconsider.
You know, if you can affordmicroblading, go for it All
(46:24):
right.
Now let's go to the lips.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
All right, let's go to the lips.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Well, I think you have to start.
So, as we get older, our lipsget dry.
We have a lot of dry skinaround that we have.
So I think it's reallyimportant to use a scrub to
remove the dry skin to startwith.
Right, and a nice sugar scrubum, I know that, um, as far as a
(46:50):
high-end one, there's onecalled sugar lip, um polish
exfoliator, um, what wouldgently kind of, you know, uh, do
this treatment and then youknow, if you put lipstick on dry
lips, it's just gonna look amess, right.
So you gotta prep them and thenkeep them hydrated and stuff.
(47:13):
But if you can't, you know, and, and that's a high end at 18.
So it's not super high end, no,but Revlon has one and it's
called Kiss Sugar ScrubExfoliator and that's only like
$5.
So make sure you're starting itoff with, just like you would
(47:33):
your face with cleansing itproperly and treating it
properly.
Get in there with a good lipscrub.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
You know, I'm going to admit that I had no idea
there were lip scrubs, I think,for me, because chap lips are
not my thing, knock on wood.
Unless I'm up in the mountainsor something, I don't really
think about it too much.
I mean, I am a user of, like aBurt's Bees lip balm
(48:02):
occasionally, but this is allnew for me.
I'm going to have to try.
Maybe you know the Revlon lipscrub bomb, because I'm not
going to go high end on this.
Consider I've made it all theseyears and not used it.
But I am intrigued by this idea, you know, tish.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
So, once we have these, these soft lips, what are
we going to put on them?
Right, that's the question.
So hit me with your choices forlipstick.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Okay, well, I am, of course I know I've talked about
this before a lover of theClinique Black Honey.
I'm going to call it iconic.
It's iconic yeah, it looks goodon everyone.
I am also into Tom Ford.
He has an amazing lipstick andit's a breast cancer fundraiser.
(48:54):
And again, it's a very neutralcolor that looks good on
everyone.
And my new favorite is by abrand and again this is high-end
brand called Westman Atelier,and I believe that it's someone
named Gucci Westman who makesthis.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
And this is called Lip Suede.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
I mean who doesn't want lip suede?
Lip suede, I mean who doesn'twant lip suede?
And it has the cutest I'mshowing Tish because she can see
this, just the cutest packaging.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Great applicator, yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
And it has a magnet.
The top goes back on with amagnet.
Anyway, those are my three bigcolors.
I don't really have a lot ofother ones.
I do use a nude lip pencilagain that Pookie gave me and I
do like the idea of putting on alip pencil.
Again, I do not have dry lipsand I think a lot of ladies may
(49:52):
not like the lip pencil for that.
What about you?
I know your signature lipstick,but let's hear it Tish.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I have, over the years, tried different colors,
different brands.
I always go back to my lovefrom college Silver City, revlon
, silver City Pink yes, it isjust me, that's my signature
lipstick.
(50:21):
And then I do have some smalllines around my lips right now
in the silver city, you don'tsee it because it's a.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
It's a shinier lip, it's not a shiny and it's a very
light pink.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
when it goes on it's shiny, so you don't get that.
When I put on, say, a matte,that's darker, you can start to
see where it starts bleedinginto my little lines.
I don't like that.
So I think I'm going to thegrave with Silver City Pink,
sorry, well.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
I'm going to say the 1983, 1984, 1985 versions of the
two of us.
I was wearing black honey andyou were wearing silver city
pink.
I love it we have.
I think now we really want totalk about this balance, right
Tish, we want to talk aboutfinding that balance.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, I think too.
You know, sometimes you don'teven want to have lipstick on,
but I still think it's importantthat you go out with a good lip
balm, you know, and there's somany great ones out there.
What are some of your favorites?
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Well, I think I mentioned I do really like that
Burt's Bees brand and it's got.
I put them in stockings.
They make stocking stuffers.
Easter basket just little gifts.
Pink grapefruit coconut I'venever met a coconut product I
don't like in my life.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Oh yeah, they have a coconut pear one.
That is yummy, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
And they have just lip moisturizer, a lot of
beeswax.
It's tint free, it's natural,and so I really like that.
And you know what?
Again, like you can't take theseventies or the eighties out of
the girl, but give me achapstick, classic medicated lip
balm, right, the old chapstick.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
So it was so funny because my kids growing up would
lick their lips so much thatthey would have like huge red
marks around their mouth right.
Yeah the big chap.
The only thing that would getthem cleared up and fast was the
light blue.
It's in the light blue one, thechapstick, classic medicated
(52:39):
lip balm.
And I even remember seeinganother little boy and his were
so red and raw and they it.
You know it hurts them.
And they and I went over to themother and I said look I said
my kids do the same thing.
This is what you have to get.
But today, even if I'm, likeyou know, during you know
(53:01):
different seasons where my lipsdry out, or you know I, you know
I'll go back to that, I'llrevert back to that and it seems
to put my lips in a bettercondition.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
So, yeah, I love that .
I think maybe that's where it'scolder than here.
Um, I don't feel that, thatthat but it's so good to know
that when you need somethingthat's really, really strong,
that's a good one to go to.
But as we wrap up- I was goingto say.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
We've talked a lot about when to go high, when to
go low.
I really think it's aboutfinding that balance between the
two and staying within yourpersonal preferences, your
personal budget.
There's no sense in going brokeor putting yourself in that
situation just to have some nameproducts.
(53:51):
There's too many good dupes outthere.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
I agree Absolutely, and it's all about
self-expression, confidence,authenticity here at Midlife.
Knowing and understanding yourpersonal style goes into your
personal beauty routine as well.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
For everyone listening.
We're going to have a lot ofthese products posted on our
Amazon storefront, so if there'ssomething that you heard that
you want to try, or whatever,definitely visit us on our store
.
That one stop and you can pickup all these products.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Absolutely so.
As we wrap up today, I hopethat our listeners that you've
gained insight into high-end,low-end beauty products that we
think work for women at midlife.
And remember it's not about theprice tag at all, but how that
product makes you feel and whatworks for you.
(54:54):
Like for me, finding a cleanproduct like the Ursa Major
brand really works for me, andnot high-end.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Right, and I just want to give a big shout out to
some of our new listeners inPark Ridge, Illinois, and
Detroit Lakes, Minnesota, WhiteHouse Station, New Jersey and
even Sterling Virginia.
Thank you for joining us onthis podcast, you know.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yeah, welcome, I love it.
Right, so you know just this isjust one of the topics that I
think a lot of friends talkabout so much, so stay tuned for
more empowering discussions onnavigating midlife with style,
with grace, with confidence.
The stories, the wisdom, theinsights that we explore are not
(55:46):
really meant to be kept toourselves, but by sharing this
podcast with other women atmidlife, you're not just
spreading the knowledge orwhatever, but you're sparking
some inspiration, you'refostering connections and you're
building a community that'sfocused on support and
empowerment.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
Well said, tish.
I don't even know if I can topthat.
I really don't.
But you know, share with yourfriends, share the podcast,
share good news, share beauty,product right.
Really just share and buildyour community and this can be a
(56:28):
catalyst for someone else'stransformation, for igniting a
new perspective and for buildingthat community.
So what do we say till nextweek?
Midlifers, till next weekmidlifers Till next week.
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