Across the next two episodes of PGAP, we will be showcasing the good work from CASSE NSW Inc (https://www.casse-nsw.org.au/)., who are advocating for the steady state economy in Australia.
For this episode, we interview Phil Jones, Treasurer and Secretary, as he shares with us the progress of government reports and inquiries into the Circular Economy. Furthermore, why it is crucial that we encourage the government to take serious action in implementing the circular economy, rather than letting their reports gather dust in Canberra.
We discuss two reports in particular:
The Circular Economy Ministerial Advisory Group (https://www.dcceew.gov.au/environment/protection/circular-economy/ministerial-advisory-group), established in 2023, and:
The Productivity Commission “Opportunities in the Circular Economy (https://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries/current/circular-economy/interim)” interim report
The circular economy is defined by Wikipepdia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_economy#Critiques_of_circular_economy_models) as: “a model of resource production and consumption in any economy that involves sharing, leasing, reusing, repairing, refurbishing, and recycling existing materials and products for as long as possible.”
Phil is positive with the potential for the rollout of the circular economy in Australia, especially in its capacity to catalyse existing initiatives such as recycling programs, repair cafes, second hand exchange initiatives, etc. However, he cautions that the circular economy is alone insufficient in achieving true sustainability unless it is coupled with the Steady State Economy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady-state_economy). That is, "an economy made up of a constant stock of physical wealth (capital) and a constant population size, which does grow over the course of time".
The episode concludes with a call to action to get some real and action in response to these reports. A good place to start is by signing the CASSE NSW INC petition (https://www.casse-nsw.org.au/post/casse-nsw-s-petition-to-parliament) to establish a Federal government inquiry into the steady state economy.
Did you like this episode and want to explore further?
You may be interested in PGAP’s first ever episode with Steady State ACT (https://pgap.fireside.fm/steadystate), or with CASSE’s international director Brian Czech (https://pgap.fireside.fm/brianczech). We also discussed the New Economy Network Australia on the episode, so you may be interested in PGAP’s coverage of the 2023 NENA conference (https://pgap.fireside.fm/nena2023) (sadly, I didn’t get around to recording Phil’s excellent talk).
You can find out more about Phil and CASSE NSW in the Sustainable Population Australia Newsletter November 2024 (https://population.org.au/newsletters/spa-newsletter-157-november-2024/). Speaking of SPA, who proudly support PGAP, please consider signing their position statement (https://population.org.au/sign-the-spa-position-statement/), calling for an end to population growth in Australia.
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All perspectives of PGAP guests, including legacy past, present and future, are exclusively theirs and do not always reflect the perspectives or working of PGAP or SPA.
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