September 7, 2023 • 51 mins
In this episode of Post Mosh Clarity, Lani and Josh discuss the album "Deadweight" by Wage War. They reflect on their initial impressions of the band and how they have changed over time. The album is explored as a journey of finding light through darkness and overcoming the weight of life's challenges. Join them as they provide insights and a fresh perspective on this impactful album.
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https://genius.com/albums/Wage-war/Deadweight
https://www.allmusic.com/album/deadweight-mw0003065963
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
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We're your host, Lonnie.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And I'm Josh.
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Life has its ups and downs.
At times, it could feel likethe weight of the world is on
your shoulders.
For some, this heavy weight anddarkness can really put a stop
to the momentum of their life.
However, the beauty in life isthat there is always going to be
a brighter side.
Our lives are really limitlessand sometimes we just need that
little something to pull us outof the darkness when life gets
(01:02):
too heavy to handle.
Today's album, Dead Weight, isabout finding the light through
the darkness.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Wait, well, yeah, what's up guys?
I just wanted to let that roll.
I'll let you guys know we'reback.
We took a little longer breakthan normal, but we're still
trying to keep it going.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yep, we're here, we're doing it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We're gonna have a good time.
Today I got a good one Dead,Weight Wage War, great album,
great stuff.
Honestly, I didn't know aboutthis band until I met you.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Really.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, I did no idea, and then you showed me them and
you're like check these guys out.
Like really, I don't know aboutthis.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Why you didn't like them at first.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
No, I just I'm biased , and if it's like a band that I
don't know, then I immediatelywrite them off.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
No, I mean I've changed quite a bit, but yeah,
no, it was, I just hadn't heardof them before.
And then, I mean, as soon asyou showed them to me and told
me to check them out, I checkedthem out I was like, oh okay,
these are pretty cool.
And then, as I kept listening,I was like wait a minute this is
really cool.
And then I was like wait,there's like more albums, too,
Like this is oh, this is great,I never heard of these guys.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Oh my gosh, so we're actually forwarding going a
decade from our previousepisodes.
Oh yeah, and I talk.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I guess we should eventually get a little more
relevant with our episodes, huh.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It seems like we're scooting a little closer.
This one was released in 2017,in August.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh yeah, I was just going to say that we got some
really good requests that I wantto work on, and it's kind of my
fault that we've been late.
I had an episode planned.
I didn't quite get it done.
So here we are and we're goingto do another one of Alana's
episodes.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh, Cheshire's a little slacker.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I'm a bit of a slacker.
I'm bad at this research.
Part of the idea.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We forgive you you must move on.
I believe you'll get better.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It's going to be a good episode though, you know,
so be excited.
Yeah, excited, woohoo I don'twant to spoil it, I don't want
to say what it is right, butit's going to be a good one and
people are going to like it.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, especially my people.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I did great, you know who you are.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Well, I guess we should just get right into it.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, we'll get to it now.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
All right.
So the band members are BrittonBonney, the lead vocal, beth
Blake, lead guitar and backingvocals, cody Quistad Rhythm
Guitar and clean vocals, chrisGaylord on the bass and backing
vocals and finally, stephenKluciner I hope I said that
(03:56):
right on the drums.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Kluciner looks pretty good, I tried.
Did everybody sing in a bandthen?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, it comes together very flawlessly in this
day.
I killed it.
So the making of Deadweight Ithought it was pretty
interesting Wage War as a banddid, a lot of episodes, a lot of
interviews about this album inparticular, and each member of
the band actually had somethingto say about the making of this
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album.
So the basis Chris wanted toshow off the progression of the
entire band in the albumDeadweight when compared to the
previous album, bluefront.
The vocalist, britton Bonne,says that this album is when
life slaps you in the face andreally just how to deal with
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that.
Okay, guitarist Cody sayswriting a lyric weren't
necessarily happy at the time orfeeling when you want to write
something positive.
It was the opposite as lettingyour negative out on a piece of
paper, because that's all youhave.
Deadweight is about finding thepositivity through the negative
(05:06):
.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I really like that.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, this whole album has a lot of really good
references and you'll see thatthey really just want people to
relate to their music.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, they do really well with that, very inspiring.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
The drummer, steven, says he had a different mindset
than recording and writing witha blueprint album, and Seth, the
backing vocals and guitarist,says that it's a darker album
and feels it would be relatableto people and help them apply it
to their situation.
So exactly what I just saidit's a darker album, so it's
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more relatable.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah.
So overall, their number onegoal was to be real and
authentic, which can be shownthroughout the entire album and
well as a little preview intoproduction.
They said they wereparticularly happy to work with
Andrew and Jeremy and saysthey're like a super team and
work well individually, but whentogether it is a powerhouse.
(06:18):
So, with that being said, weactually have a callback to our
first episode.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That I recognize.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yes.
So Andrew Wade and JeremyMcKinnon, along with Brad
Blackwood, was in the backgroundof this album with engineering,
mixing, production, masteringso really great team behind the
scenes.
So if you haven't listened toour first episode, andrew,
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Andrew Wade started playingguitar and lead vocals in a
Christian rock emo band, a Wishfor Maryland, and has produced
every wage war album to date.
Andrew says he likes howadamant the band is about their
defined vision of what they want, which helps make his job
easier to make their visionbecome a reality.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That's super cool.
They're a I mean, they're areally great band to listen to.
Just just so cool how they allkind of work together and people
that you wouldn't necessarilyexpect.
Like somebody come in from adata, remember, you wouldn't
think they would produce thisstuff.
Everybody's got their tastesand they're doing good stuff
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with it, so Right.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So I must say, like before I even knew Jeremy was
behind the making of wage war.
I thought vocalists soundedvery similar to Jeremy sometimes
and I often was like wait, isthat Jeremy McKinnon?
Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Like maybe he helped him out, like coached him a bit.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Oh, totally, yeah.
Well, speaking of JeremyMcKinnon obviously the lead
singer of a data, remember, ifyou don't know he says that when
writing lyrics and music it's alot of pressure because it's
your own work.
He feels that working with theband he can sit back and relax
and add to what the band alreadyhad in place or really just
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highlighting the segments andsongs to really stand out more.
So not only produce some of hisown albums with the data,
remember, but he producedmultiple wage war albums, like I
was saying, the ghost inside,real friends and Viara.
But that was pretty interesting.
I didn't know all that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, I didn't know that either, but I was wondering
how many albums Jeremy wasinvolved with wage war.
So multiple is a good amount.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, and then finally, Brad Blackwood, the
mastering on this album.
He started Euphonic Masters in2003.
And he also has plans such asMaroon 5, Lamb of Gone Korn and
Black Eyed Peas, just to name afew.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Quite a wide spectrum there, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But he seems pretty rad.
He has many award nominatedprojects.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Heck yeah, working with those people.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It truly was, or is a powerhouse working behind the
scenes here?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, it's a great album.
It's an awesome album.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So in another interview with KM interviews,
who KM interviews, specializeson camera interviews, drum kegms
and photography, and he'sinterviewed other bands that are
similar to Wage War.
So this interview took placethree days after the release of
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this album and Wage War is justreally excited and they strived
to have this be their best touryet and they really just wanted
to hang out with their fans andpeople at the merch table.
And when asked what it was liketo headline with Parkway Drive
and DataRemember, they said itwas awesome to play with the big
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dogs and have that realizationthat fans are there for them,
but also really stressfulbecause they want to do well.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, I mean I can't, man, that would just be the
dream, especially after havingworked with these people, and
then going out and playing withthem and getting to play your
new stuff and them likesupporting you and just
everybody being there kind offor you in a way.
It's unimaginable, it's gottabe so great.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Right and then, like you can tell, just writing this
album and putting the work intothis album that they did, they
really wanted to be relatableand to see that that's actually
coming through, that must belike such a surreal feeling.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So when asked about the meaning of Deadweight, the
band said that it's shedding theskin of past struggles and
here's a very personal record.
Honestly, it's also aboutletting go of things that hold
you back in life and being awayfrom home.
While writing this album,attributed to most of the lyrics
and what the band waspersonally going through at the
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time.
And then, off of this album,they were asked what songs they
liked to play live and they saidStitch, Justine, Johnny Cash
and Graphie and we'll go aheadand talk a little bit more, as
now we're ready to talk aboutthe track list, dive into the
fun stuff.
So to me, something very iconicabout Wage War is their iconic
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blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Good old blah blah.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So I decided to count how many times I did this
throughout the album and I meanit's not like catastrophic or
anything.
They only did it four times,but Catastrophic.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
They did four powerful, meaningful blah, blah,
blah.
Did I do it right?
Pretty close, pretty close.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That practice paid off.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, you might as well just do a just go audition
right now.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh, yikes, all right what do you got?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Okay, kicking her off First song two years.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
very short song A minute and 15 seconds to be
exact.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
The intro.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, and it actually leads quite nicely into the
second song or second track.
Two years could signify the twoyears that had gone by since
the release of the first album,Blueprint.
I mean, I could name them off.
It's pretty short.
If you'd like me to, could I?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, I mean it's like 30 words.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
No, I didn't count, but it goes as follows it's been
two years since I spilled myheart, sorry, spilled out my
heart on a blank page, so I'mthe same to think that it's art.
But I'm just trying to fight mydemons.
Always learning from mymistakes, I'm still trying to
make a difference, foreverlooking for my place.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
forgive me, yeah, I would say it signifies like two
years since their last album.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, so it sounds like they're still, I mean, with
it being their second album,and it seems like they started
to become a lot more popularthan they thought they would be
with this, so I'm sure they'rein that transition phase, I
don't know.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, maybe I mean just the line about spilling out
your heart people thinking it'sart kind of hits me, because
it's like a lot of people thatare, you know, they have this
fame or they have this ability.
They don't exactly see it as agift all the time, but some
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people would really, you know,would love to have the ability
or the renown that they do.
But I don't know.
I'm not saying he's doinganything wrong with those lyrics
, but it's just interesting howthe different, how people
interpret it different, you know, fight him the demons, but
everybody can relate to that intheir own way.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, absolutely, and it kind of relates throughout
this entire album.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, it's kind of.
It's kind of the whole theme.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, there you go the theme.
Yeah, so moving on toSouthbound being the second
track of the album.
Honestly, after reading throughthe lyrics, I assume he's
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talking about going through ahard time in the phase of life
that he's currently at at thisstage.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Oh, I kind of forgot to mention we were going to try
something new.
You might have noticed we putin some song clips to kind of
give you guys ideas of whatyou're listening to or what you
could listen to If you wanted tocheck out these songs.
(15:33):
We're going to put in littleclips for you, each song, each
track, maybe five, ten seconds,something like that.
And yeah, if that helps youguys out, let us know.
Anyway, back to the lovely ladytalking to you about the songs.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
All right.
So yeah, just going through ahard time in that phase of life,
so succeeding and being an upand coming band and having your
dreams come true but no onereally knows what goes on behind
the scenes, such as touring,writing music and being away
from your family and everythingelse that comes with that.
A lyric that really stood outto me for this song was I will
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suffer the judgment passed bythose who simply do not
understand people, notunderstanding what he's going
through internally and judginghim from the outside.
I think a lot of people canrelate to that.
You know how they say don'tjudge a book by its cover, and
that's exactly why yeah, I meanit's taken a while for people to
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not judge on outwardappearances.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Everybody goes through a lot and you really
just got to take time to get toknow people, no matter how they
look.
But I suppose, depending onwhere you are, you can kind of
tell some people you probablyshouldn't get to know.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Oh, you vibes are real.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Vibes are very, very real.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
You feel a bad vibe.
You're probably right.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Just go with that bad vibe.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Listen to yourself, all right.
So that's that about Southbound.
Moving on to track three Don'tLet Me Fade Away.
Don't Let Me Fade Away.
Right on, bring it on, right on, bring it on.
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So the singer and guitarist,brunston and Cody did an
interview about the meaning of acouple of songs.
This was one of the ones thatthey spoke about following the
release of this album.
So they said that this song,don't Let Me Fade Away, is about
internal struggles, that, I'msorry, internal struggles with
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what you believe in, not knowingall the answers sometimes.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Pretty often.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And the guitarists wanted to push in the melodic
progression of the band comparedto previous album, like I was
saying in the beginning, andthey wanted to break forth and
show the progression.
So this is one of the songsthat really showed that I think
and looking at the world and howit could help you, but feeling
hopeless.
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Honestly, this was a song whenthis album first came out I
loved.
I used to kick off my day on mydrive, my five minute, six
minute drive to work, like 6amBlasting this.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Nice little ritual.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Oh yeah, it was great , but today I must say this is
probably one of the favorites.
There's multiple favorites offthis album.
I particularly really like this.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, I can get that.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
So number four Stitch .
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The most popular song ever.
Ever, Well, I don't know aboutever, but I mean their most
popular song On Spotify.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, from this album .
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I think it's their most played song.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
From this album.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Of all time on Spotify.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Over 50 million plays Pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, so it's actually.
This song is a continuation ofthe River, which is track number
six from the first album,Blueprints.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Really yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And they have stated that this song was written about
a failed relationship and thefeeling of abandonment and
emptiness which occurs as aconsequence.
This is represented by themetaphorical phrase burn the
bridge, meaning that any pastrelationship which may have
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existed will never be reconciled.
The word whole is related tothe idea of a black hole, an
event which can occur when astar with enough mass exhausts
its fuel and collapses intoitself.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Thanks, science.
Look at that.
Isn't that beautiful, it'sawesome, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
And during this event , no light can escape making
them invisible to the outsideworld.
This could be therepresentative of the suffering
this individual endures as aconsequence of the heartbreak.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You can't even imagine.
You can't even imagine whatnon-light looks like.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Like only in your dreams.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Exactly like the erasure of light.
You can't even imagine.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I know, and then so a ripped stitch indicates that
there has already been aprevious attempt to reconcile
this relationship, and the wholewhich forms as a consequence is
due to the exhausting.
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, exhausting.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Due to the exhausting of the fuel which kept the
relationship functional.
Yeah, and to close up on thesongs of the lyrics as follows
but I guess we weren't worthsaving is a reference to their
first album.
Blueprints that read show methat I'm worth saving.
Three years after the originallyric, britain is suggesting
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they weren't worth saving afterall.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Why not?
The relationship wasn't worthsaving.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yes, the relationship I was like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So was.
Hmm, when I just wonder whatlike was Blueprints about the
relationship.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Oh well, maybe I'll do a deep dive on that album.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, we'll have to find out.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I seem to have a theme of always picking the
second album of bands so far.
What is with that?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I don't know.
They're good albums.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
They're really good.
I am probably going to go backand do a couple first, but
Sometimes they're good, but asthey, progress.
This just blur blur.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well, they're actually.
I mean, when you discoveredthem?
Did you discover them on thefirst album or did you discover
this album?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, I did actually.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You discovered the first album.
Yeah, oh, so you always knewabout this band.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I wouldn't say always , I think I just discovered them
right before the release ofthis album.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I see.
Yeah because I feel like thatsometimes will influence you,
like maybe this band had beenout for a few years but you
hadn't heard of them, and thenyou latched on to their newest
release.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Exactly that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, but their first album hits just as hard.
I mean pretty good peoplebehind the scenes as well, so
Definitely.
The ending of this song has areally good breakdown.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
We love a good breakdown.
I must admit yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
You were the light I could never see you in myself.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I went astray by you until the gates of blue.
Got to call them out.
Call some more of these seasonsOkay.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So number five is a witness.
This is a witness.
This is actually the thirdsingle that was planned for the
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record and it's one of the firstsongs that they played as a
band.
It had a vibe like nothing theyhave ever done before and
lyrically it's about goingthrough hard times and learning
from it instead of looking at itwith pity.
There is always something to begained from that situation.
The line sometimes we're tooblind to see reflects the fact
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that while an individual isgoing through a difficult time,
it can be frustrating.
However, once they got throughit, it is possible to understand
why it occurred and how to moveon from it.
The guitarist calls this a RiftFest and is one of their
favorite songs to play live.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So many notes.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Number six Deadweight Um Deadweight.
All you do is write that.
Write the way you'll do.
Write the way you'll do.
Write the way you'll do thetitle of the album right?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
But they don't always do that what?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
do you mean?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Some bands don't always use one of their songs as
the title of their album.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
No, they don't, but they really want to send a
message about.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, positivity Through the neck.
Deadweight is about letting goof what's bothering you.
So Britain, in the beginning,mentions the man he sees in the
mirror is at fault, meaninghimself.
By the end of the song, he'sletting go of the deadweight a
deadweight referring to his oldself.
It was released on August 4th2017 by Fearless Records.
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It is also the first album tohave led Britain to do clean
vocals, alongside with Cody, onthe songs Never Enough and
Gravity, the latter being thefirst power ballad of or by the
band.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's a dope song.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Britain Bond is referring to the deadweight of
whatever is holding him down.
This could be failedrelationships or imperfections
that are getting the best of him.
These lyrics are repeated onthe final track Johnny Cash,
where Britain talks aboutletting go of his failed
relationship and all the baggagethat he held from it.
Forget my name, forget my face.
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It was all just empty space.
Deadweight, no longer part ofme.
Number 7, gravity Number 8,.
Gravity.
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Another really good song on thealbum, another one that I
blasted every morning.
This chorus really spoke to me.
I was in a bad place at thetime this came out and the
lyrics read as Pull me close.
I feel the water reach aroundmy neck.
Don't let me go, just show methat there's better days ahead.
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Make me see I'm only half theperson I should be.
Pull me close and set me freefrom this gravity.
Towards the ending of the song,the lyrics are there is a light
in the tunnel, but it's distant.
On my own, I don't think I canfix this.
Set me free from this gravity.
Again, I really resonated withthis and it really just speaks
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to the theme of going through abad time and trying to find the
light and positivity.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, I remember after you showed me this band
and then whenever we'd behanging out and this band, this
song would come on.
You just always turned it up alittle bit more.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Did I really Usually.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Or it was like the first song you would put on by
them.
Wow, you were really into thissong.
You're so cute for rememberingthat, oh sure.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Alright, number eight Never Enough.
The lyrics suggest giving yourall into a relationship for it
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to feel like it was never enoughfor them.
It's honestly a great song tolisten to after a breakup and
going.
You know, when you go throughthe grief, I mean of course
you're going to be sad, thestage is a grief, right, but if
you're in that anger stage, theperfect song.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Just show it back, give it back to them.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Oh yeah, and honestly , the chorus hits hard.
It's a good song, honestlyPretty short, but it's good.
Number nine, indestructible.
This song talks a lot aboutliving in darkness and worrying
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about the unknown, ultimatelyleading to your own destruction.
And boy can that be true.
There's a lot to worry about intoday's life, I feel especially
about the unknown, anddepending on how deep you decide
to go into, that can reallylead to your destruction, right?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, you got to be careful.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, definitely, and it's possible that feeling
indestructible indicates notbeing affected by the darkness.
One of the closing lyrics ofthe song is so write this on my
stone if I don't make it home.
I tried my best, but I'm notindestructible.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I always thought it was a weird, an interesting song
to have in between all theselike songs about being like
never enough and being like oh,but they're actually talking
about not being indestructible.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Makes sense now.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, and then I like the ending lyrics, which are
even through the darkest nights,all hope is not off.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Beautiful.
Yeah, they always kind of theygot a way of bringing it back
and making you not lose all hope.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
It's tough out there, but don't give up.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Okay, two more, or actually three more songs to
talk about.
Thank you for bearing with us.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, I hope you've been enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Number 10, we have disdain.
The definition of disdain meansthe feeling that someone or
(31:19):
something is unworthy of one'srespect or consideration.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
It's a pretty tough word.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, it's pretty stabbing.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
That's rough.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, honestly, reading the lyrics, I feel like
this has to do with the state ofour world and government.
So let me read a little bit ofthe lyrics here.
Shall I Outrage?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I'll try it one more time.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yes, outrage, fed up with the system, outbreak.
Everybody is a victim, enslaved, and we think we're free.
I think it's time that we takeback what we lost, no matter the
cost.
We're branded by disdain.
There's nothing to gain.
I'm not the one to be allpolitical, but it's a problem.
When everyone's hypocritical,you can't lead.
(32:08):
If you admit you're wrong, ourinnocence is gone.
I can't read the headlines.
Another murder in the streets.
He was only nine.
God, are you listening?
And then the breakdown.
Think for yourself and nobodyelse.
We can't trust the lies we'refed over, all as good as they.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, I would agree with your assessment there.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You are correct.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You really do got to be careful about what you
believe and what you hear,especially nowadays.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, it's kind of sad.
I mean, most people don't knowwhere to get reliable
information these days.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I feel yeah, I mean, you just got to be able to make
your own decisions nowadays.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah.
So I mean it's funny youmentioned that because I feel
like the next song kind ofrelates to that as well.
So the next song, number 11, myGrave is Mine to Dig another
personal favorite.
But I really just talked aboutself-dabotage and masquerading,
(33:24):
running away from the thingsthat are good for you, and he
goes on to write he's not theman he wants to be yet, so not
being the person you want to be,and honestly I can relate to
that.
Going through your 20s, it'shonestly rough trying to figure
out who you are and what youwant to do with your life, not
to mention like I feel like yourfriends at the time are also
(33:48):
going through that.
So this is also a time whereyou really discover you true
friends are.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, and how like the people are going to back you
up on your decisions that youmake?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Right, that's a huge one.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, you have to be ready to go out there and make
the tough decisions and you know, you don't even know when
you're making them, when youhave to make them.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Especially when you're in the early 20s.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Absolutely, but that's why we go through the
things we do.
We must learn from them.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, everything makes you who you are today.
Don't live in regret.
You can always do better.
We can always get into a bettersituation.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You can do it Alright , moving on.
So this is actually reallyserious.
The lyrics go on to say Deathto self is much easier said than
done.
Pain is what has set me free.
I had to go through hell tofind what's best in me and,
honestly, like while indepression it's easy to think
(34:54):
about what it'd be like not tohave to deal with the world.
Pain is what has set me freecould relate to self harm, to
not feel so numb.
Going through hell to find thebest in you is really just
hitting rock bottom.
Either think or just swim.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, kind of a little serious.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
And so the song goes on to describe knowing he's not
alone but is desperate for aplace to call home and wanting
to change himself but not surewhere to begin.
And last but certainly notleast, johnny Cash Very, very
(35:52):
good song.
It's about a very tragicrelationship ending and this is
the song that sets it free, so Iwould say it's probably a good
conclusion of the entire album.
The song lyrics reflect thelast lyrics and the deadweight
song, as I mentioned earlier, adeadweight, no longer part of me
.
This song is from a place ofhelplessness and a way of coping
(36:15):
with it.
Interestingly, stitch River andthis song is about going
through something traumatic andfeels like most people can
relate to what they're feeling.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Do you think they're all related?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, I do.
I think they're all related.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Like the same song, universe Sure.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
That's a good way to put it.
When Cory was writing this song, he knew he wanted it to stand
out from the rest.
He listens to country music andhe chose Johnny Cash because,
no matter what he did, peoplestill looked after him.
The first thing people usuallyask about is Johnny Cash, and
Cory says this makes him excited.
Personal thoughts about thissong.
(37:03):
I really like the subtle guitarriffs in the background and
this song is also just reallygreat on their stripped version,
which is the acoustic versionnamed the Stripped Sessions.
It was actually just recentlyreleased to SN 2022.
Nice.
It includes two songs off thisalbum Gravity and Johnny Cash.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Julio.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
That includes the track list.
The Deadweight really made ahit, ranking at number 45 on
Australian albums, number 15 onthe UK Rock and Metal album and
US Billboard Top 200.
They were listed at 54.
Top Rock albums on theBillboard in the United States
(37:48):
with number eight and Top HardRock albums on the Billboard,
number two.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Heck yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
They really killed it .
That was a good year.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Definitely Well.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Good year for them.
Yeah, for them there you go.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Not bad, so wait for.
I thought it was interesting toshare a little bit about their
name.
The guitarist and cleanvocalist, cody, said it's the
worst band name ever to travelwith.
They're like, hey, we're wagewar, can we play in your country
(38:27):
?
But it's not political or armyrelated.
Our band just alludes to beingthe change you want to see.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
That's a weird thing to allude, I mean, I guess if
it's like a personal war, that'show I've been interpreting it
you want to wage war on yourself.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Cody goes on to say positivityis something that they're all
focused on.
They don't want to be dark ordepressing and they want to
leave kids with some hope at theend of the day.
We should support each otherand try to live a life where you
don't tear each other down, youbuild each other up and break
through the barrier of judgmentthat comes with being younger.
(39:07):
At the end of the day, we allwant the same thing, which is
love and peace.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, that's awesome.
It's always great at the end ofthe set when they do a little
call out.
They're like hey, we love youguys.
Peace and love, Take care Seeyou next time, see you next time
.
And you're like, ok, I guessyou're just a basic human being
with amazing vocals and poundingguitar riffs, but yes, I will
(39:35):
obey you.
Obey you.
No, it's not like that, but itis cool when you see them be
normal people on stage.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, or even just in general, aside from the music.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not very good at going up to the
band after the fact I'm shy.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh my gosh.
That reminds me when we met atLola and we were waiting in.
Kurt Travis was standing rightnext to us.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, well, we weren't there to meet him.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I know we're like we don't want to check away from
the moment, but Kurt Travis islike right next to us.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
He's so busy.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
He was on his phone by himself.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
He was talking to another man about the show.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Not me.
I swear to God, no, no, but Iwas already.
I had enough for meeting AndrewWells and the rest of the band.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
So I'm sure it would have been fine if it would have
talked to Kurt real quick, butyeah, we didn't want to be rude.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Respect.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Kurt, if you ever hear this, I doubt it.
Where were we?
We were in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
The Goldfields.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Was it Goldfield?
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, the Goldfields, it was the first time there.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
actually it was at Lola meet and greet.
You were there.
I had a really big beard.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
That's what's most important.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Anyway, we're talking about wage war.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Oh, yeah, yeah, okay.
So final thoughts I reallyappreciate how the band members
and producers really cametogether and are excited and
dedicated to producing musicthat is meaningful and stands
out from the rest.
Each member of the band hasamazing talent and they all just
create such a masterpiece.
I enjoy the screamers cleanscreens.
(41:12):
I was able to see them atAftershock in 2009 and these
songs are even better live thancoming out through your speaker.
Wage war continues to progresswith their music and I look
forward to the music they keepreleasing.
I hope to see them live againand hold on.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
You saw them in Aftershock.
In what year?
Speaker 1 (41:36):
2018.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
2018.
Okay, what you might have said2009.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
You might have 2009?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that cameout of your mouth.
Why?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
We can check the tape .
Are you serious?
I did not.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
You might have.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
No way.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Maybe I was right.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Oh my God, how did I do it?
Why I don't?
Know, I literally was lookingat 2018.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Words just out your head.
Sometimes it's funny,especially numbers.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Wow, my mind is blown .
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's okay.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
I saw them in Aftershock in 2018, correction
we just did a lot of readingthere.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Well, you did, yeah, good research, oh okay.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
So, now we can conclude with our top three.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Don't sound so sad.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Well, I gotta go find the, I gotta go get my answers.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Go and get money out.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
We'll be right back, all right.
All right, we're back, we'reback.
So, yeah, we're gonna do topthree, of course, how we finish,
and this episode's topic is topthree, DGD songs, dance heaven,
dance songs, and this isn'tlike by album or it's just like
(43:06):
top three, and this one's reallyhard.
Super hard.
I mean, I'm not like the hugestfan anymore.
I'm not super impressed withtheir newest stuff.
That being said, they willalways be just a favorite band
in mind.
So picking They've been throughso much and just picking three
songs of everything they've doneis really hard.
(43:30):
So I spent a good 10, 15minutes and figured out what I
need to say.
Would you like to start?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, yes, okay.
I don't even want to say theseare in any particular order, but
these are the three songs thatI could pick if I could choose
three.
I'll just put it that way.
So Inspire the Liars.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Really good one.
It was my first song thatreally tied me in a mothership
album.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
And well, I have a tattooed on me, so Did you know
about them before that album?
Yes.
I just didn't know specificallyabout mothership because I
didn't listen to them right whenTillion came on board until
Instant Gratification.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
But I listened to them before with Kurt and Johnny
.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Interesting, Okay.
So that being said, my firstone that I kind of went to was
we Own the Night and kind of thesame reason, Like I knew about
DanceGavin Dance, but you knowthey kind of A lot of stuff
happened.
And then this guy, Tillion,showed up and I wasn't too
interested.
But we Own the Night, amazingbeautiful song, really got me
(44:49):
into Tillion.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, the whole album really did.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, it's a great album.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
You know it was a tie between we Own the Night and On
the Run and honestly, on theRun stuck out more to me.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Oh, is that your next one?
Yeah, sorry, some of my nextone off that album.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
But yeah, it was between those two songs An
awkward, I really awkward off.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Instant Gratification .
Awkward is awesome.
Yeah, I love that song.
It was just, it was cool, itwas nice.
You know they I had a weirdthing getting into them and then
I didn't like Johnny Craigstuff, so I just dropped them.
(45:32):
And then Tillion came aroundand it was breath of pressure.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah and yeah, they've been through a lot.
Yeah, a lot, a lot Over adecade.
We've listened to them.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
My second one will be Don't Tell Dave, okay, yeah, I
just it was a favorite, you know, through all the years and even
in the beginning, beforeTillion it's probably.
I mean, kurt is, I love Kurt,man, kurt is the guy and it's a
good song.
They had a different bassist onthis one but man, the bass is
(46:04):
awesome on this song.
Just a groovy, anti-socialsocial song.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
What's your life like for?
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah, so my last one is pretty typical, but it's a
good one.
It's an easy, hard way, themost.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
It was my ringtone for a long time.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
There you go, gotta be.
Yeah, you just can't avoid it,you know.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
It's a classic.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
It is a certified, it's literally the head-jurker.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah, you know, in concerts and you're waiting for
the next band to set up andthey're playing the background
music.
I guarantee you, if we're atone of these shows and this song
were to come on, there's a goodchance.
At least 50% of the crowd knowsthis song.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I would say more than that, but yeah, but I don't
know.
I guess I don't know, shoot onthe lower side there, but yeah
Well, I'm gonna finish it offwith a little unexpected one,
but Summertime Gladness.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
That's a really good one.
Maybe not as popular, but thatwas its own special release
right.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Right, so it was actually a single that they did.
They did it for they kind of doit.
Now pretty often they release asingle in between albums, yeah,
just to kind of let you guysknow, hey, we're still doing
stuff, which is cool.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I don't think enough bands would do that, but it's
interesting, you see that,because I think they literally
just released a single.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah, yeah, they did definitely.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
And I know there's a new album coming.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
But this song, yeah, it kind of rejuvenated me
because I didn't really likeMothership unfortunately it
wasn't as big on it and thissong really got me back into
them and stoked for Artificial.
Artificial dropped inArtificial is a banger and I'm
honestly surprised.
You know I want to do a coupleof runner-ups here.
(47:59):
I really thought you would pickEvaporate.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Oh, that was hard.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, I'm surprised that you didn't put that in your
top, I know.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
It's because there was classics before that song
which made Evaporate what it isto me.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, true.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Which is why I couldn't just pick it from the
top.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
True, true, but it is one of my favorites.
And then I like the othersingles, headhunter and
Bloodwolf.
Like honestly, it's weird, thesingles kind of hit a little
different than the album tracks.
The album tracks are great andthe albums always flow, but yeah
, I really like their littlesingles.
(48:36):
Well, that will do it foranother episode, episode 4.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, it sounds like we have a lot to talk about when
it comes to Dancekevin' Dance.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, who knows when we'll actually talk about that.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
To be honest, the DGD fanbase is kind of scary right
now, must admit.
Maybe it's calmed down a littlebit.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
That's going to be the episode that puts us on, and
then everybody hates on us.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I'm scared, it's my opinion.
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That was weird.
Bye.
What do you mean?
Don't look at it's a blur.
(50:20):
Oh, that was good, that wasn'tbad.
I mean, it sounded more like athrow up, but oh, no, blur.
(50:44):
Make it mean Don't look at me,I'm not looking at you.
I'm not mean I have to thinkmean Be mean I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
I have to think mean.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Be mean, be mean with it Angry throw up.
Blur, blur.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I didn't get angry enough.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
You didn't.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
I can't, you can't be angry.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
You can't be angry.
Bring out your anger Blur.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
The dog pooped in the house Blur, oh my lord.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
I mean, it just sounded like you walked, like
you stepped in it and threw upat the same time.
I give up.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
I give up, I give.
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where we take a deep dive andprovide you with insights on
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We're your host, Lonnie.
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Life has its ups and downs.
At times, it could feel likethe weight of the world is on
your shoulders.
For some, this heavy weight anddarkness can really put a stop
to the momentum of their life.
However, the beauty in life isthat there is always going to be
a brighter side.
Our lives are really limitlessand sometimes we just need that
little something to pull us outof the darkness when life gets
(01:02):
too heavy to handle.
Today's album, Dead Weight, isabout finding the light through
the darkness.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Wait, well, yeah, what's up guys?
I just wanted to let that roll.
I'll let you guys know we'reback.
We took a little longer breakthan normal, but we're still
trying to keep it going.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yep, we're here, we're doing it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We're gonna have a good time.
Today I got a good one Dead,Weight Wage War, great album,
great stuff.
Honestly, I didn't know aboutthis band until I met you.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Really.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, I did no idea, and then you showed me them and
you're like check these guys out.
Like really, I don't know aboutthis.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Why you didn't like them at first.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
No, I just I'm biased , and if it's like a band that I
don't know, then I immediatelywrite them off.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
No, I mean I've changed quite a bit, but yeah,
no, it was, I just hadn't heardof them before.
And then, I mean, as soon asyou showed them to me and told
me to check them out, I checkedthem out I was like, oh okay,
these are pretty cool.
And then, as I kept listening,I was like wait a minute this is
really cool.
And then I was like wait,there's like more albums, too,
Like this is oh, this is great,I never heard of these guys.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Oh my gosh, so we're actually forwarding going a
decade from our previousepisodes.
Oh yeah, and I talk.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I guess we should eventually get a little more
relevant with our episodes, huh.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It seems like we're scooting a little closer.
This one was released in 2017,in August.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh yeah, I was just going to say that we got some
really good requests that I wantto work on, and it's kind of my
fault that we've been late.
I had an episode planned.
I didn't quite get it done.
So here we are and we're goingto do another one of Alana's
episodes.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh, Cheshire's a little slacker.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I'm a bit of a slacker.
I'm bad at this research.
Part of the idea.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We forgive you you must move on.
I believe you'll get better.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It's going to be a good episode though, you know,
so be excited.
Yeah, excited, woohoo I don'twant to spoil it, I don't want
to say what it is right, butit's going to be a good one and
people are going to like it.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, especially my people.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I did great, you know who you are.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Well, I guess we should just get right into it.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, we'll get to it now.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
All right.
So the band members are BrittonBonney, the lead vocal, beth
Blake, lead guitar and backingvocals, cody Quistad Rhythm
Guitar and clean vocals, chrisGaylord on the bass and backing
vocals and finally, stephenKluciner I hope I said that
(03:56):
right on the drums.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Kluciner looks pretty good, I tried.
Did everybody sing in a bandthen?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, it comes together very flawlessly in this
day.
I killed it.
So the making of Deadweight Ithought it was pretty
interesting Wage War as a banddid, a lot of episodes, a lot of
interviews about this album inparticular, and each member of
the band actually had somethingto say about the making of this
(04:25):
album.
So the basis Chris wanted toshow off the progression of the
entire band in the albumDeadweight when compared to the
previous album, bluefront.
The vocalist, britton Bonne,says that this album is when
life slaps you in the face andreally just how to deal with
(04:46):
that.
Okay, guitarist Cody sayswriting a lyric weren't
necessarily happy at the time orfeeling when you want to write
something positive.
It was the opposite as lettingyour negative out on a piece of
paper, because that's all youhave.
Deadweight is about finding thepositivity through the negative
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.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I really like that.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, this whole album has a lot of really good
references and you'll see thatthey really just want people to
relate to their music.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, they do really well with that, very inspiring.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
The drummer, steven, says he had a different mindset
than recording and writing witha blueprint album, and Seth, the
backing vocals and guitarist,says that it's a darker album
and feels it would be relatableto people and help them apply it
to their situation.
So exactly what I just saidit's a darker album, so it's
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more relatable.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah.
So overall, their number onegoal was to be real and
authentic, which can be shownthroughout the entire album and
well as a little preview intoproduction.
They said they wereparticularly happy to work with
Andrew and Jeremy and saysthey're like a super team and
work well individually, but whentogether it is a powerhouse.
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So, with that being said, weactually have a callback to our
first episode.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That I recognize.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yes.
So Andrew Wade and JeremyMcKinnon, along with Brad
Blackwood, was in the backgroundof this album with engineering,
mixing, production, masteringso really great team behind the
scenes.
So if you haven't listened toour first episode, andrew,
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Andrew Wade started playingguitar and lead vocals in a
Christian rock emo band, a Wishfor Maryland, and has produced
every wage war album to date.
Andrew says he likes howadamant the band is about their
defined vision of what they want, which helps make his job
easier to make their visionbecome a reality.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That's super cool.
They're a I mean, they're areally great band to listen to.
Just just so cool how they allkind of work together and people
that you wouldn't necessarilyexpect.
Like somebody come in from adata, remember, you wouldn't
think they would produce thisstuff.
Everybody's got their tastesand they're doing good stuff
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with it, so Right.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So I must say, like before I even knew Jeremy was
behind the making of wage war.
I thought vocalists soundedvery similar to Jeremy sometimes
and I often was like wait, isthat Jeremy McKinnon?
Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Like maybe he helped him out, like coached him a bit.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Oh, totally, yeah.
Well, speaking of JeremyMcKinnon obviously the lead
singer of a data, remember, ifyou don't know he says that when
writing lyrics and music it's alot of pressure because it's
your own work.
He feels that working with theband he can sit back and relax
and add to what the band alreadyhad in place or really just
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highlighting the segments andsongs to really stand out more.
So not only produce some of hisown albums with the data,
remember, but he producedmultiple wage war albums, like I
was saying, the ghost inside,real friends and Viara.
But that was pretty interesting.
I didn't know all that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, I didn't know that either, but I was wondering
how many albums Jeremy wasinvolved with wage war.
So multiple is a good amount.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, and then finally, Brad Blackwood, the
mastering on this album.
He started Euphonic Masters in2003.
And he also has plans such asMaroon 5, Lamb of Gone Korn and
Black Eyed Peas, just to name afew.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Quite a wide spectrum there, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But he seems pretty rad.
He has many award nominatedprojects.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Heck yeah, working with those people.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It truly was, or is a powerhouse working behind the
scenes here?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, it's a great album.
It's an awesome album.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So in another interview with KM interviews,
who KM interviews, specializeson camera interviews, drum kegms
and photography, and he'sinterviewed other bands that are
similar to Wage War.
So this interview took placethree days after the release of
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this album and Wage War is justreally excited and they strived
to have this be their best touryet and they really just wanted
to hang out with their fans andpeople at the merch table.
And when asked what it was liketo headline with Parkway Drive
and DataRemember, they said itwas awesome to play with the big
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dogs and have that realizationthat fans are there for them,
but also really stressfulbecause they want to do well.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, I mean I can't, man, that would just be the
dream, especially after havingworked with these people, and
then going out and playing withthem and getting to play your
new stuff and them likesupporting you and just
everybody being there kind offor you in a way.
It's unimaginable, it's gottabe so great.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Right and then, like you can tell, just writing this
album and putting the work intothis album that they did, they
really wanted to be relatableand to see that that's actually
coming through, that must belike such a surreal feeling.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So when asked about the meaning of Deadweight, the
band said that it's shedding theskin of past struggles and
here's a very personal record.
Honestly, it's also aboutletting go of things that hold
you back in life and being awayfrom home.
While writing this album,attributed to most of the lyrics
and what the band waspersonally going through at the
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time.
And then, off of this album,they were asked what songs they
liked to play live and they saidStitch, Justine, Johnny Cash
and Graphie and we'll go aheadand talk a little bit more, as
now we're ready to talk aboutthe track list, dive into the
fun stuff.
So to me, something very iconicabout Wage War is their iconic
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blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Good old blah blah.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So I decided to count how many times I did this
throughout the album and I meanit's not like catastrophic or
anything.
They only did it four times,but Catastrophic.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
They did four powerful, meaningful blah, blah,
blah.
Did I do it right?
Pretty close, pretty close.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That practice paid off.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, you might as well just do a just go audition
right now.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh, yikes, all right what do you got?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Okay, kicking her off First song two years.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
very short song A minute and 15 seconds to be
exact.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
The intro.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, and it actually leads quite nicely into the
second song or second track.
Two years could signify the twoyears that had gone by since
the release of the first album,Blueprint.
I mean, I could name them off.
It's pretty short.
If you'd like me to, could I?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, I mean it's like 30 words.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
No, I didn't count, but it goes as follows it's been
two years since I spilled myheart, sorry, spilled out my
heart on a blank page, so I'mthe same to think that it's art.
But I'm just trying to fight mydemons.
Always learning from mymistakes, I'm still trying to
make a difference, foreverlooking for my place.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
forgive me, yeah, I would say it signifies like two
years since their last album.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, so it sounds like they're still, I mean, with
it being their second album,and it seems like they started
to become a lot more popularthan they thought they would be
with this, so I'm sure they'rein that transition phase, I
don't know.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, maybe I mean just the line about spilling out
your heart people thinking it'sart kind of hits me, because
it's like a lot of people thatare, you know, they have this
fame or they have this ability.
They don't exactly see it as agift all the time, but some
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people would really, you know,would love to have the ability
or the renown that they do.
But I don't know.
I'm not saying he's doinganything wrong with those lyrics
, but it's just interesting howthe different, how people
interpret it different, you know, fight him the demons, but
everybody can relate to that intheir own way.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, absolutely, and it kind of relates throughout
this entire album.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, it's kind of.
It's kind of the whole theme.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, there you go the theme.
Yeah, so moving on toSouthbound being the second
track of the album.
Honestly, after reading throughthe lyrics, I assume he's
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talking about going through ahard time in the phase of life
that he's currently at at thisstage.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Oh, I kind of forgot to mention we were going to try
something new.
You might have noticed we putin some song clips to kind of
give you guys ideas of whatyou're listening to or what you
could listen to If you wanted tocheck out these songs.
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We're going to put in littleclips for you, each song, each
track, maybe five, ten seconds,something like that.
And yeah, if that helps youguys out, let us know.
Anyway, back to the lovely ladytalking to you about the songs.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
All right.
So yeah, just going through ahard time in that phase of life,
so succeeding and being an upand coming band and having your
dreams come true but no onereally knows what goes on behind
the scenes, such as touring,writing music and being away
from your family and everythingelse that comes with that.
A lyric that really stood outto me for this song was I will
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suffer the judgment passed bythose who simply do not
understand people, notunderstanding what he's going
through internally and judginghim from the outside.
I think a lot of people canrelate to that.
You know how they say don'tjudge a book by its cover, and
that's exactly why yeah, I meanit's taken a while for people to
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not judge on outwardappearances.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Everybody goes through a lot and you really
just got to take time to get toknow people, no matter how they
look.
But I suppose, depending onwhere you are, you can kind of
tell some people you probablyshouldn't get to know.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Oh, you vibes are real.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Vibes are very, very real.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
You feel a bad vibe.
You're probably right.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Just go with that bad vibe.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Listen to yourself, all right.
So that's that about Southbound.
Moving on to track three Don'tLet Me Fade Away.
Don't Let Me Fade Away.
Right on, bring it on, right on, bring it on.
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So the singer and guitarist,brunston and Cody did an
interview about the meaning of acouple of songs.
This was one of the ones thatthey spoke about following the
release of this album.
So they said that this song,don't Let Me Fade Away, is about
internal struggles, that, I'msorry, internal struggles with
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what you believe in, not knowingall the answers sometimes.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Pretty often.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And the guitarists wanted to push in the melodic
progression of the band comparedto previous album, like I was
saying in the beginning, andthey wanted to break forth and
show the progression.
So this is one of the songsthat really showed that I think
and looking at the world and howit could help you, but feeling
hopeless.
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Honestly, this was a song whenthis album first came out I
loved.
I used to kick off my day on mydrive, my five minute, six
minute drive to work, like 6amBlasting this.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Nice little ritual.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Oh yeah, it was great , but today I must say this is
probably one of the favorites.
There's multiple favorites offthis album.
I particularly really like this.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, I can get that.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
So number four Stitch .
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The most popular song ever.
Ever, Well, I don't know aboutever, but I mean their most
popular song On Spotify.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, from this album .
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I think it's their most played song.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
From this album.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Of all time on Spotify.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Over 50 million plays Pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, so it's actually.
This song is a continuation ofthe River, which is track number
six from the first album,Blueprints.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Really yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And they have stated that this song was written about
a failed relationship and thefeeling of abandonment and
emptiness which occurs as aconsequence.
This is represented by themetaphorical phrase burn the
bridge, meaning that any pastrelationship which may have
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existed will never be reconciled.
The word whole is related tothe idea of a black hole, an
event which can occur when astar with enough mass exhausts
its fuel and collapses intoitself.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Thanks, science.
Look at that.
Isn't that beautiful, it'sawesome, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
And during this event , no light can escape making
them invisible to the outsideworld.
This could be therepresentative of the suffering
this individual endures as aconsequence of the heartbreak.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You can't even imagine.
You can't even imagine whatnon-light looks like.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Like only in your dreams.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Exactly like the erasure of light.
You can't even imagine.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I know, and then so a ripped stitch indicates that
there has already been aprevious attempt to reconcile
this relationship, and the wholewhich forms as a consequence is
due to the exhausting.
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, exhausting.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Due to the exhausting of the fuel which kept the
relationship functional.
Yeah, and to close up on thesongs of the lyrics as follows
but I guess we weren't worthsaving is a reference to their
first album.
Blueprints that read show methat I'm worth saving.
Three years after the originallyric, britain is suggesting
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they weren't worth saving afterall.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Why not?
The relationship wasn't worthsaving.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yes, the relationship I was like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So was.
Hmm, when I just wonder whatlike was Blueprints about the
relationship.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Oh well, maybe I'll do a deep dive on that album.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, we'll have to find out.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I seem to have a theme of always picking the
second album of bands so far.
What is with that?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I don't know.
They're good albums.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
They're really good.
I am probably going to go backand do a couple first, but
Sometimes they're good, but asthey, progress.
This just blur blur.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well, they're actually.
I mean, when you discoveredthem?
Did you discover them on thefirst album or did you discover
this album?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, I did actually.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You discovered the first album.
Yeah, oh, so you always knewabout this band.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I wouldn't say always , I think I just discovered them
right before the release ofthis album.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I see.
Yeah because I feel like thatsometimes will influence you,
like maybe this band had beenout for a few years but you
hadn't heard of them, and thenyou latched on to their newest
release.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Exactly that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, but their first album hits just as hard.
I mean pretty good peoplebehind the scenes as well, so
Definitely.
The ending of this song has areally good breakdown.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
We love a good breakdown.
I must admit yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
You were the light I could never see you in myself.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I went astray by you until the gates of blue.
Got to call them out.
Call some more of these seasonsOkay.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So number five is a witness.
This is a witness.
This is actually the thirdsingle that was planned for the
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record and it's one of the firstsongs that they played as a
band.
It had a vibe like nothing theyhave ever done before and
lyrically it's about goingthrough hard times and learning
from it instead of looking at itwith pity.
There is always something to begained from that situation.
The line sometimes we're tooblind to see reflects the fact
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that while an individual isgoing through a difficult time,
it can be frustrating.
However, once they got throughit, it is possible to understand
why it occurred and how to moveon from it.
The guitarist calls this a RiftFest and is one of their
favorite songs to play live.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So many notes.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Number six Deadweight Um Deadweight.
All you do is write that.
Write the way you'll do.
Write the way you'll do.
Write the way you'll do thetitle of the album right?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
But they don't always do that what?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
do you mean?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Some bands don't always use one of their songs as
the title of their album.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
No, they don't, but they really want to send a
message about.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, positivity Through the neck.
Deadweight is about letting goof what's bothering you.
So Britain, in the beginning,mentions the man he sees in the
mirror is at fault, meaninghimself.
By the end of the song, he'sletting go of the deadweight a
deadweight referring to his oldself.
It was released on August 4th2017 by Fearless Records.
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It is also the first album tohave led Britain to do clean
vocals, alongside with Cody, onthe songs Never Enough and
Gravity, the latter being thefirst power ballad of or by the
band.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's a dope song.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Britain Bond is referring to the deadweight of
whatever is holding him down.
This could be failedrelationships or imperfections
that are getting the best of him.
These lyrics are repeated onthe final track Johnny Cash,
where Britain talks aboutletting go of his failed
relationship and all the baggagethat he held from it.
Forget my name, forget my face.
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It was all just empty space.
Deadweight, no longer part ofme.
Number 7, gravity Number 8,.
Gravity.
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Another really good song on thealbum, another one that I
blasted every morning.
This chorus really spoke to me.
I was in a bad place at thetime this came out and the
lyrics read as Pull me close.
I feel the water reach aroundmy neck.
Don't let me go, just show methat there's better days ahead.
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Make me see I'm only half theperson I should be.
Pull me close and set me freefrom this gravity.
Towards the ending of the song,the lyrics are there is a light
in the tunnel, but it's distant.
On my own, I don't think I canfix this.
Set me free from this gravity.
Again, I really resonated withthis and it really just speaks
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to the theme of going through abad time and trying to find the
light and positivity.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, I remember after you showed me this band
and then whenever we'd behanging out and this band, this
song would come on.
You just always turned it up alittle bit more.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Did I really Usually.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Or it was like the first song you would put on by
them.
Wow, you were really into thissong.
You're so cute for rememberingthat, oh sure.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Alright, number eight Never Enough.
The lyrics suggest giving yourall into a relationship for it
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to feel like it was never enoughfor them.
It's honestly a great song tolisten to after a breakup and
going.
You know, when you go throughthe grief, I mean of course
you're going to be sad, thestage is a grief, right, but if
you're in that anger stage, theperfect song.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Just show it back, give it back to them.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Oh yeah, and honestly , the chorus hits hard.
It's a good song, honestlyPretty short, but it's good.
Number nine, indestructible.
This song talks a lot aboutliving in darkness and worrying
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about the unknown, ultimatelyleading to your own destruction.
And boy can that be true.
There's a lot to worry about intoday's life, I feel especially
about the unknown, anddepending on how deep you decide
to go into, that can reallylead to your destruction, right?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, you got to be careful.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, definitely, and it's possible that feeling
indestructible indicates notbeing affected by the darkness.
One of the closing lyrics ofthe song is so write this on my
stone if I don't make it home.
I tried my best, but I'm notindestructible.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I always thought it was a weird, an interesting song
to have in between all theselike songs about being like
never enough and being like oh,but they're actually talking
about not being indestructible.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Makes sense now.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, and then I like the ending lyrics, which are
even through the darkest nights,all hope is not off.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Beautiful.
Yeah, they always kind of theygot a way of bringing it back
and making you not lose all hope.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
It's tough out there, but don't give up.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Okay, two more, or actually three more songs to
talk about.
Thank you for bearing with us.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, I hope you've been enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Number 10, we have disdain.
The definition of disdain meansthe feeling that someone or
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something is unworthy of one'srespect or consideration.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
It's a pretty tough word.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, it's pretty stabbing.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
That's rough.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, honestly, reading the lyrics, I feel like
this has to do with the state ofour world and government.
So let me read a little bit ofthe lyrics here.
Shall I Outrage?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I'll try it one more time.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yes, outrage, fed up with the system, outbreak.
Everybody is a victim, enslaved, and we think we're free.
I think it's time that we takeback what we lost, no matter the
cost.
We're branded by disdain.
There's nothing to gain.
I'm not the one to be allpolitical, but it's a problem.
When everyone's hypocritical,you can't lead.
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If you admit you're wrong, ourinnocence is gone.
I can't read the headlines.
Another murder in the streets.
He was only nine.
God, are you listening?
And then the breakdown.
Think for yourself and nobodyelse.
We can't trust the lies we'refed over, all as good as they.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, I would agree with your assessment there.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You are correct.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You really do got to be careful about what you
believe and what you hear,especially nowadays.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, it's kind of sad.
I mean, most people don't knowwhere to get reliable
information these days.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I feel yeah, I mean, you just got to be able to make
your own decisions nowadays.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah.
So I mean it's funny youmentioned that because I feel
like the next song kind ofrelates to that as well.
So the next song, number 11, myGrave is Mine to Dig another
personal favorite.
But I really just talked aboutself-dabotage and masquerading,
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running away from the thingsthat are good for you, and he
goes on to write he's not theman he wants to be yet, so not
being the person you want to be,and honestly I can relate to
that.
Going through your 20s, it'shonestly rough trying to figure
out who you are and what youwant to do with your life, not
to mention like I feel like yourfriends at the time are also
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going through that.
So this is also a time whereyou really discover you true
friends are.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, and how like the people are going to back you
up on your decisions that youmake?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Right, that's a huge one.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, you have to be ready to go out there and make
the tough decisions and you know, you don't even know when
you're making them, when youhave to make them.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Especially when you're in the early 20s.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Absolutely, but that's why we go through the
things we do.
We must learn from them.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, everything makes you who you are today.
Don't live in regret.
You can always do better.
We can always get into a bettersituation.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You can do it Alright , moving on.
So this is actually reallyserious.
The lyrics go on to say Deathto self is much easier said than
done.
Pain is what has set me free.
I had to go through hell tofind what's best in me and,
honestly, like while indepression it's easy to think
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about what it'd be like not tohave to deal with the world.
Pain is what has set me freecould relate to self harm, to
not feel so numb.
Going through hell to find thebest in you is really just
hitting rock bottom.
Either think or just swim.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, kind of a little serious.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
And so the song goes on to describe knowing he's not
alone but is desperate for aplace to call home and wanting
to change himself but not surewhere to begin.
And last but certainly notleast, johnny Cash Very, very
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good song.
It's about a very tragicrelationship ending and this is
the song that sets it free, so Iwould say it's probably a good
conclusion of the entire album.
The song lyrics reflect thelast lyrics and the deadweight
song, as I mentioned earlier, adeadweight, no longer part of me
.
This song is from a place ofhelplessness and a way of coping
(36:15):
with it.
Interestingly, stitch River andthis song is about going
through something traumatic andfeels like most people can
relate to what they're feeling.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Do you think they're all related?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, I do.
I think they're all related.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Like the same song, universe Sure.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
That's a good way to put it.
When Cory was writing this song, he knew he wanted it to stand
out from the rest.
He listens to country music andhe chose Johnny Cash because,
no matter what he did, peoplestill looked after him.
The first thing people usuallyask about is Johnny Cash, and
Cory says this makes him excited.
Personal thoughts about thissong.
(37:03):
I really like the subtle guitarriffs in the background and
this song is also just reallygreat on their stripped version,
which is the acoustic versionnamed the Stripped Sessions.
It was actually just recentlyreleased to SN 2022.
Nice.
It includes two songs off thisalbum Gravity and Johnny Cash.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Julio.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
That includes the track list.
The Deadweight really made ahit, ranking at number 45 on
Australian albums, number 15 onthe UK Rock and Metal album and
US Billboard Top 200.
They were listed at 54.
Top Rock albums on theBillboard in the United States
(37:48):
with number eight and Top HardRock albums on the Billboard,
number two.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Heck yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
They really killed it .
That was a good year.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Definitely Well.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Good year for them.
Yeah, for them there you go.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Not bad, so wait for.
I thought it was interesting toshare a little bit about their
name.
The guitarist and cleanvocalist, cody, said it's the
worst band name ever to travelwith.
They're like, hey, we're wagewar, can we play in your country
(38:27):
?
But it's not political or armyrelated.
Our band just alludes to beingthe change you want to see.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
That's a weird thing to allude, I mean, I guess if
it's like a personal war, that'show I've been interpreting it
you want to wage war on yourself.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Cody goes on to say positivityis something that they're all
focused on.
They don't want to be dark ordepressing and they want to
leave kids with some hope at theend of the day.
We should support each otherand try to live a life where you
don't tear each other down, youbuild each other up and break
through the barrier of judgmentthat comes with being younger.
(39:07):
At the end of the day, we allwant the same thing, which is
love and peace.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, that's awesome.
It's always great at the end ofthe set when they do a little
call out.
They're like hey, we love youguys.
Peace and love, Take care Seeyou next time, see you next time
.
And you're like, ok, I guessyou're just a basic human being
with amazing vocals and poundingguitar riffs, but yes, I will
(39:35):
obey you.
Obey you.
No, it's not like that, but itis cool when you see them be
normal people on stage.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, or even just in general, aside from the music.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not very good at going up to the
band after the fact I'm shy.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh my gosh.
That reminds me when we met atLola and we were waiting in.
Kurt Travis was standing rightnext to us.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, well, we weren't there to meet him.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I know we're like we don't want to check away from
the moment, but Kurt Travis islike right next to us.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
He's so busy.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
He was on his phone by himself.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
He was talking to another man about the show.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Not me.
I swear to God, no, no, but Iwas already.
I had enough for meeting AndrewWells and the rest of the band.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
So I'm sure it would have been fine if it would have
talked to Kurt real quick, butyeah, we didn't want to be rude.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Respect.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Kurt, if you ever hear this, I doubt it.
Where were we?
We were in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
The Goldfields.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Was it Goldfield?
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, the Goldfields, it was the first time there.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
actually it was at Lola meet and greet.
You were there.
I had a really big beard.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
That's what's most important.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Anyway, we're talking about wage war.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Oh, yeah, yeah, okay.
So final thoughts I reallyappreciate how the band members
and producers really cametogether and are excited and
dedicated to producing musicthat is meaningful and stands
out from the rest.
Each member of the band hasamazing talent and they all just
create such a masterpiece.
I enjoy the screamers cleanscreens.
(41:12):
I was able to see them atAftershock in 2009 and these
songs are even better live thancoming out through your speaker.
Wage war continues to progresswith their music and I look
forward to the music they keepreleasing.
I hope to see them live againand hold on.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
You saw them in Aftershock.
In what year?
Speaker 1 (41:36):
2018.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
2018.
Okay, what you might have said2009.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
You might have 2009?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that cameout of your mouth.
Why?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
We can check the tape .
Are you serious?
I did not.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
You might have.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
No way.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Maybe I was right.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Oh my God, how did I do it?
Why I don't?
Know, I literally was lookingat 2018.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Words just out your head.
Sometimes it's funny,especially numbers.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Wow, my mind is blown .
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's okay.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
I saw them in Aftershock in 2018, correction
we just did a lot of readingthere.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Well, you did, yeah, good research, oh okay.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
So, now we can conclude with our top three.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Don't sound so sad.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Well, I gotta go find the, I gotta go get my answers.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Go and get money out.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
We'll be right back, all right.
All right, we're back, we'reback.
So, yeah, we're gonna do topthree, of course, how we finish,
and this episode's topic is topthree, DGD songs, dance heaven,
dance songs, and this isn'tlike by album or it's just like
(43:06):
top three, and this one's reallyhard.
Super hard.
I mean, I'm not like the hugestfan anymore.
I'm not super impressed withtheir newest stuff.
That being said, they willalways be just a favorite band
in mind.
So picking They've been throughso much and just picking three
songs of everything they've doneis really hard.
(43:30):
So I spent a good 10, 15minutes and figured out what I
need to say.
Would you like to start?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, yes, okay.
I don't even want to say theseare in any particular order, but
these are the three songs thatI could pick if I could choose
three.
I'll just put it that way.
So Inspire the Liars.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Really good one.
It was my first song thatreally tied me in a mothership
album.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
And well, I have a tattooed on me, so Did you know
about them before that album?
Yes.
I just didn't know specificallyabout mothership because I
didn't listen to them right whenTillion came on board until
Instant Gratification.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
But I listened to them before with Kurt and Johnny
.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Interesting, Okay.
So that being said, my firstone that I kind of went to was
we Own the Night and kind of thesame reason, Like I knew about
DanceGavin Dance, but you knowthey kind of A lot of stuff
happened.
And then this guy, Tillion,showed up and I wasn't too
interested.
But we Own the Night, amazingbeautiful song, really got me
(44:49):
into Tillion.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, the whole album really did.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, it's a great album.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
You know it was a tie between we Own the Night and On
the Run and honestly, on theRun stuck out more to me.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Oh, is that your next one?
Yeah, sorry, some of my nextone off that album.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
But yeah, it was between those two songs An
awkward, I really awkward off.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Instant Gratification .
Awkward is awesome.
Yeah, I love that song.
It was just, it was cool, itwas nice.
You know they I had a weirdthing getting into them and then
I didn't like Johnny Craigstuff, so I just dropped them.
(45:32):
And then Tillion came aroundand it was breath of pressure.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah and yeah, they've been through a lot.
Yeah, a lot, a lot Over adecade.
We've listened to them.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
My second one will be Don't Tell Dave, okay, yeah, I
just it was a favorite, you know, through all the years and even
in the beginning, beforeTillion it's probably.
I mean, kurt is, I love Kurt,man, kurt is the guy and it's a
good song.
They had a different bassist onthis one but man, the bass is
(46:04):
awesome on this song.
Just a groovy, anti-socialsocial song.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
What's your life like for?
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah, so my last one is pretty typical, but it's a
good one.
It's an easy, hard way, themost.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
It was my ringtone for a long time.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
There you go, gotta be.
Yeah, you just can't avoid it,you know.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
It's a classic.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
It is a certified, it's literally the head-jurker.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah, you know, in concerts and you're waiting for
the next band to set up andthey're playing the background
music.
I guarantee you, if we're atone of these shows and this song
were to come on, there's a goodchance.
At least 50% of the crowd knowsthis song.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I would say more than that, but yeah, but I don't
know.
I guess I don't know, shoot onthe lower side there, but yeah
Well, I'm gonna finish it offwith a little unexpected one,
but Summertime Gladness.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
That's a really good one.
Maybe not as popular, but thatwas its own special release
right.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Right, so it was actually a single that they did.
They did it for they kind of doit.
Now pretty often they release asingle in between albums, yeah,
just to kind of let you guysknow, hey, we're still doing
stuff, which is cool.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I don't think enough bands would do that, but it's
interesting, you see that,because I think they literally
just released a single.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah, yeah, they did definitely.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
And I know there's a new album coming.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
But this song, yeah, it kind of rejuvenated me
because I didn't really likeMothership unfortunately it
wasn't as big on it and thissong really got me back into
them and stoked for Artificial.
Artificial dropped inArtificial is a banger and I'm
honestly surprised.
You know I want to do a coupleof runner-ups here.
(47:59):
I really thought you would pickEvaporate.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Oh, that was hard.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, I'm surprised that you didn't put that in your
top, I know.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
It's because there was classics before that song
which made Evaporate what it isto me.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, true.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Which is why I couldn't just pick it from the
top.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
True, true, but it is one of my favorites.
And then I like the othersingles, headhunter and
Bloodwolf.
Like honestly, it's weird, thesingles kind of hit a little
different than the album tracks.
The album tracks are great andthe albums always flow, but yeah
, I really like their littlesingles.
(48:36):
Well, that will do it foranother episode, episode 4.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, it sounds like we have a lot to talk about when
it comes to Dancekevin' Dance.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, who knows when we'll actually talk about that.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
To be honest, the DGD fanbase is kind of scary right
now, must admit.
Maybe it's calmed down a littlebit.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
That's going to be the episode that puts us on, and
then everybody hates on us.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I'm scared, it's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, we're just having a good time.
We appreciate you guyslistening and following along
with us.
Share it, tell some people, ifyou want, if they think that
they'll resonate with it.
That'd be great.
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We got Instagram.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
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Speaker 2 (49:27):
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Speaker (49:28):
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Speaker 2 (49:30):
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There's an email.
You can send us some requests,you can make some suggestions,
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Speaker 1 (49:44):
And let us know what you think of our addition of
adding the clips.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Oh yeah, we got a suggestion from some good
friends and we hope that youguys like that.
So let us know what you thinkand keep your ears open and
ready.
That was weird.
Bye.
What do you mean?
Don't look at it's a blur.
(50:20):
Oh, that was good, that wasn'tbad.
I mean, it sounded more like athrow up, but oh, no, blur.
(50:44):
Make it mean Don't look at me,I'm not looking at you.
I'm not mean I have to thinkmean Be mean I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
I have to think mean.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Be mean, be mean with it Angry throw up.
Blur, blur.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I didn't get angry enough.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
You didn't.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
I can't, you can't be angry.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
You can't be angry.
Bring out your anger Blur.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
The dog pooped in the house Blur, oh my lord.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
I mean, it just sounded like you walked, like
you stepped in it and threw upat the same time.
I give up.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
I give up, I give.
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