October 26, 2023 • 56 mins
Ready to embark on a musical journey? We're peeling back the layers of August Burns Red's 2007 album 'Messengers' and you're invited to join in the exploration. This episode is all about the band's struggle with labeling themselves, their distinct sound, and the impact their work has had on the music scene. We'll even dive into the story behind the band's name and the rumors surrounding the album's title.
Ever wondered about the unique instruments used in 'Messengers'? We've got you covered! We'll discuss the use of the China instrument and how it amplifies the album's charm.
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Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right, well, next , yeah, we have a little shout
out for the homie Ryan.
We're doing August Burns RedBaby Messenger's album.
Good old, solid, just.
Oh man, this is such a goodalbum Just.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I know of it and I can picture it when you say it,
but I don't know if I'veactually sat down and listened
to it all the way through.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, I mean you can, it's one you can put on and
like let it go through, it'sheavy, it's metal, it's good old
classic, just blast beats.
And China, it's good heavystuff that you're going to enjoy
, and metalcore all the waythrough, and that's what they
(02:03):
consider it.
And I don't know.
I mean it's, is it even melodic?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I think so.
I mean, what does melodicreally mean?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Right, that's the.
That's the real question Iswhat is really melodic?
Maybe I'm an idiot and I don'tknow.
Just let me know, you guyscould tell me it.
Maybe they are melodic and I'mmissing the whole point.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But they are.
I would say they are.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I mean it's melodic.
So is that just melodies?
Like, of course they havemelodies, everybody's got
melodies, but metal melodies Iguess.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah go ahead and look it up, so I'm going to give
them a little background.
This album, messengers, cameout in June 19th of 2007 with
solid state records.
It was recorded in just about amonth, between January 29th and
March 3rd of that year.
Yeah they were ready to go.
It was produced by the band andTua Madison Madsen, a Danish
(03:04):
producer.
Notable bands that he workedwith was Meshugah, Suicide
Silence, the cleansing album.
Specifically, he helped withBlack Dollya Murders of Verminus
album, which was a later album.
Nice.
Yeah, and he began back in 1997and worked all the way through
to 2020.
(03:25):
So this guy's been around for agood time.
He retired, no, I just couldn'tfind anything after 2020.
And for sure, pretty sure he'sstill around.
But yeah he helped out with thisalbum.
I believe his name was TuaMadison.
Pretty cool, this album sold9,000 copies and it's first week
(03:46):
yeah, it went all the way to80,000.
I don't know what that timeperiod is.
I guess it's at 80,000 overall,because that just seems low.
But maybe if that's onlyphysical copies I could kind of
understand that.
But I mean, I guess that's cool.
I mean 2007, were we focusingon hard copies?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, so I mean how many?
How?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
back in.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
What did Britney do back then?
How many hard copies wasBritney selling?
Britney Spears selling backthen?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh, good one In comparison, Probably 2007,.
I want to say she was on hersecond or maybe third album.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'm just talking hard copies.
Do you have any?
You don't know any.
You don't need any numbers oflike how many copies I just I
don't know, I'm just trying tofind a comparison oh, like, sold
, yeah, because that's what I'mtalking about here.
9,000 copies were sold in thefirst week of this album coming
out and I just don't know.
That just seems like low to me.
But I guess back then thestandards were different and I
(04:52):
don't know what those standardswere.
Anyway, onto the band members.
We've got the boy, the man, thelegend.
Jake Allure's, lee Vocals, mattGreener on drums another legend
.
I mean, everybody here's alegend, come on, let's be real.
But Matt Greener, he playsdrums and piano.
(05:13):
We got JB Brubaker on leadguitar, brent Rambler on rhythm
guitar, dustin Davidson on thebass and backing vocals.
These guys were around for thisalbum specifically.
I know they've had a coupledifferent members, but I'm
pretty sure JB, matt Greener andDustin have always been in the
(05:35):
band since its inception.
Additionally, we had TroyGlesender was a mastering on
this album and then Jay Dunn,ray Clark from a band Demon
Hunter.
They had like a little bandgoing on back then, but they
were.
They later kind of gave that upand were more like scouts and
(05:58):
worked for Solid State Records,and JD especially was the artist
and repertoire, which is aninteresting job.
Basically, it's a division of arecord label or music
publishing company that isresponsible for talent scouting
and overseeing the artistic.
So I mean, the best I can sayis he basically is like hey, I
(06:18):
found these guys in a bar and Ithink they're really cool and he
like tells the record labelabout them and then helps them
prepare themselves for therecord label.
Yeah, so he works with them,he's in the scene, knows all the
cool people, knows all the onesthat might be popping, and he
kind of scouted them out in asense.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
So can you tell us the names again one more time?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Of the band members.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Of who you're just talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh, this is John Dunn and Ryan Clark.
Okay, John Dunn, specifically,thank you, jd sometimes referred
to.
He was the artist andrepertoire and he'll come up
again later.
That's why I kind of bring himup right now.
But he was just like a guy thatdid a thing for records Solid
State Records and kind of, in away, brought August Burns Red on
(07:08):
to their radar.
Oh okay Because they had onlythey had done one album, I
believe, before this one, andthey kind of got them on the on
track, but they weren't likepopping popping Okay.
So we also had Jared Nudson didthe cover photo and David Hill
did band photo, all right, so Igot an interview.
(07:34):
I found this interview.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
We love interviews.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, we like, did we like the interviews?
We want to hear what they werefeeling, what they were thinking
.
It's good information.
This is a this guy.
I found it on a Reddit.
If I will, it will get.
It was a link on Reddit to killthe musicnet.
A guy named Jordan Muller didthis interview back in 2016,
(07:58):
october 27th, about four albumsafter this album, messengers,
came out.
Yeah, he hit up JB, jb Brubaker, the lead guitarist, and did
this retrospective.
He called it so in thisinterview.
You know he just asking themquestions.
(08:20):
Band didn't have a whole lot ofexpectations for this album
when it came out.
They were just happy with thesound and glad people were
listening to it.
And a week later, john Dunn,their A&R, came around and was
like hey guys, you are 81 on thetop of Billboard 200.
Wow.
Billboard 200 top.
Wow, okay, it's called theBillboard top 200.
(08:42):
I'm so sorry.
I'm a massacre at that.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Sorry, we all do, we have our moments.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, I'm having a moment this whole time, but
thanks guys for being here in mymoment I'm happy to be here.
I'm having fun.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's a blast.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
This, this surprised them, you know, being 81 on the
top 200 Billboard, and it wasthe moment that they realized
that they were a real band.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
What?
Yeah right, they're real, areal band.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Dude ain't just no more garages and bars were real
guys.
Wow.
Jb mentions that this was thealbum that put them on the map
and how younger bands tell themit was an inspiration.
Definitely for me too, growingup.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
But alternatively he would geek out when he would go
on tours with bands like as A LeDying and Breeding Between the
Buried and Me.
It's kind of a cool little.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Deli Guterres.
Yeah this is.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
JB talking Cool.
Yeah, I mean it's kind of cool,like you know they're all just
guys.
But like, everybody hasinspirations and sometimes
meeting your heroes isn't as badas some songs make it out to be
.
So he's just kind of talkingabout how he would geek out and
like be like, oh man you guysare so great, you're such an
inspiration.
But then he would also have guyscome up to him later on in his
career and be like oh my God,your albums, your guys' earlier
(10:06):
stuff is what made me become aguitarist, and blah, blah, blah.
So it's really cool.
Yeah, just seeing both sides.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That must be really rewarding.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I'm sure when asked about the lyrics of Messengers
he said he can't imagine writinglike that anymore.
It's definitely a differentstyle that they had back then.
Matt in particular was verybiblical, had a lot of theology.
Brent had like frustrationswith societies when he was
(10:36):
writing, and then JB Are theseprevious vocalists?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Do you know what they're talking?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
about no, so they all kind of took turns like writing
songs.
Jake Lurez did not write allthe lyrics.
I don't have like a list ofexactly who wrote what.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Sure, I think that's pretty common though.
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
But they all worked together at different points to
write these songs.
So he's just speaking about howthey all have different writing
topics and then so yeah, soMatt was really biblical.
Brent had frustrations withsociety, and then JB wrote
Backburner, talking about yourconvictions and living in the
(11:18):
moment.
So Jamie was single at the timeand living with his parents.
His whole life was all about abr and touring.
I mean, it's just like a dream,you know.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I don't know how old he was at the time.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Oh man, that's a great question.
I Don't have it in my notes.
Okay, I want to say he wasyoung.
I mean he had to have been highschool, if not like really well
, maybe not high school andmaybe like, maybe like just
graduated, living with hisparents.
(11:58):
But he wasn't even worriedabout having a relationship, he
just put it all into the band.
It's awesome.
This is awesome dude.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I am.
I saw that throughout mybrother's band experience.
He's been in a lot of bands andyou can definitely tell the
different Individuals who tookit seriously and those who
didn't right and the ones whodid take it seriously are still
playing music today.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, it stinks because I mean, we all have
responsibilities and things thatcome our way and Things that we
don't plan for, that we have tohandle, but it's awesome to see
people keep pushing through andalways making music.
You know, music is a thing tolive for and I'm glad that we
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have the music we have and we'rehere to talk about it.
And yeah, I mean that's kind ofthe last point of this
interview was just the impact.
They couldn't imagine what itwould have on the community and
it just makes a lot of sense.
When you do your best work andyou put out great music, people
will enjoy it and that's all itreally takes sometimes.
Yeah, so you know, people thinkthere's a lot of stuff and a
(13:08):
lot of behind the scenes and whoyou know.
But if you've got the talentand you've got the people that
put the heart into it, you can.
You can make it happen.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You can literally do anything you put your mind to.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Absolutely.
But we really do have the powerand I got power, we got the
power, got a couple facts foryou guys.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh, I love you guys like facts.
Be to do the bunch.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Dang it.
She's smart.
I'm not as smart as her guys.
That's why it took me a month toresearch all this, but we're
here.
We made it, I'm sorry.
So there was a rumor about howthis band name came about.
Mm-hmm, they did an interviewin 2007, right after this album
(14:01):
came out.
You know, okay, as a way toAdvertise, oh, you put.
Oh, brent, the other guitarist,brent, he, he had a story.
So there was a guy named JohnHershey, the original vocalist,
(14:21):
I guess, the guy who made thisband pretty much along with the
rest of the members.
So, original members.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Hershey must be an awesome last name.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
You think so I don't like it.
I mean, I like Hershey, butlike the chocolate.
But I wouldn't want my name tobe Hershey, unless I had all of
that chocolate money, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I don't think this guy had chocolate money.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
No, no chocolate money.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Nope, not for this man, because he was dating a
woman named August, won't youknow?
And Supposedly they broke upand she was not happy.
So she came to his house andlit his dog red on fire.
That was what they told in this2007 interview.
They kind of made a joke aboutit, and then you know they
(15:05):
decided to name their bandAugust Prince Red, which was
originally with two D's.
They were pretty elaborate withthis whole thing, so I was not
expecting that.
Yeah, neither was I, so Iwanted to give that out, but it
was also debunked, and I'm right, you said it was a rumor.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
In a 2012 radio interview, the drummer, matt,
came in with some realinformation and said now we just
came up with a name to come upwith a name.
I guess back in 2007 they werejust having fun and making up
stuff, but yeah, they just cameup with it to come up with it
(15:45):
good old dog name read yeah,with two D's.
August Prince Red.
If you know this band, youprobably have an idea that they
are pretty Christian and.
I didn't want to get super intoit, but they, they have
evertones, they all have theirown own style of belief and I
kind of got into some researchand found that they actually, as
(16:08):
a band, struggled withcancelling themselves Christian
metal or just metal Because theydidn't want people to confuse
their music with other Christianinfluencers that actually
spread real word.
Gospel yeah they're morefocused on just making cool
music.
They are Christian people.
They are Christian people butnot their music.
(16:29):
Does that make sense?
Like they're not gonna be likemean and gross and
anti-Christian in their music,but they don't necessarily write
about huh just their personalbeliefs.
Sometimes they do write aboutthat, but they don't make their
music solely for that purpose.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
(16:51):
Um, so yeah, they wanted tomaybe talk about not being
Christian labeling, but theykept it in the long run.
I see yeah and then my favoritepart about this album and.
Abr in general is just the useof the China this album, just
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any song and Check it out.
Breakdowns and other rhythms.
I mean the China just rings andit is amazing it got me to get
a China.
I had to have one when I wasplaying drums and I loved using
it, and it's probably why Ican't hear as well out of my
Right ear anymore.
But hey, it was worth it.
(17:34):
I had a good time and itsounded awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, great China sound dope.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I love China.
They are Get yourself a Chinadrummers if you.
If you're a drummer, just do it, go for it.
It is also worth noting thatthey did a remixed version of
this album in 2016.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Oh really.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, it was like re-recorded and remastered after
they did the anniversary tour.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Oh nice.
Yeah, I think a lot of bands dothat, at least back then.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Um, I mean, not as many bands make it as long as
them, but the ones that do have,I believe yeah yeah, like
Pierce the veil and A dataremember nice.
All right on to the song list.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Whoo.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, good of the song list, get excited.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
It's the fun part best part, for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So we got number one.
Truth of a liar.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Mean what it is.
What's about?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
well, I couldn't find too much on this one At least
on the website that I checkedout Like about what it's what
the song is about, but I want tosay that it is a hard core song
to start off the album with.
It really sets the tone,definitely in all-time favorite.
(19:33):
I think it's got one of themost listens of all their songs
ever.
So yeah, great song for thebeginning of the album.
Anyway, I think this song mypersonal like interpretation
would be that it's about ego.
So you know.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That makes sense.
It kind of ties to the title.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, going so far as to believe that you know more
than other people.
You know and, like you're, youthink you're perfect, but you're
not.
That's just the world that welive in, and you really
shouldn't let ignorance controlyou.
Face the truth and don't livein denial.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
For sure you heard it here first.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I Hope you didn't hear it here first.
That's something you shouldalready know.
You.
Huh, so we got next up againstthe road.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Is that related to like pirates and stuff or no?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I always interpreted it as like boxing.
So when you're in like a boxingring and they got the ropes
around it and like someone'spushed you into a corner and Now
you're like on the ropes, soyou better Shape up and fight
back or you're gonna.
You're gonna be done.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yikes.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah scary but the this song isn't quite about that
.
I've found that it's aboutChristian faith and you know
you've got somebody that is Notas Into it as you are, so you're
trying to like help them, butthey just really don't want to
listen.
They would rather suffer inthis distance.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Do you mean like they're not really into the
religion?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
No, it's just.
They Don't want to hear it likethey don't.
They believe right, they'redoing fine and when, when really
they could be living a betterlife if they listen to this
friend, or so the friend istrying to tell them.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Hmm, I see.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, they may be saying things.
The person that Doesn't want tolisten is like you know, only
the strong and the fortunatewill survive.
I don't need to hear about thisfaith, but when they go home
and they think about themselvesand they look inside, they can
see that there is a lot ofproblem and they are actually
suffering in a dark time.
(22:43):
That hits deep, yeah, yeah.
So you know, you might want tolive a little better, but they
just continue to not live sowell and in the end we're all
dead.
So who really cares?
Right, at least that's what'spresented into this song, yeah,
but we have to remember that weare forgiven, so we can forgive
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ourselves and live on.
I will live on, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I don't know what that was.
It was just fitting, was it?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Came out of me.
I just started singing Cool.
Okay, we got number threebackburner Starting right off on
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the song, we got theconvictions of the backburner.
You know, when you're puttingsomething on the backburner, it
usually means you're notthinking about it, and that's
the problem in this song.
We know that there is something, but we don't really pay
attention to it.
That could make everythingbetter, right, but we decide to
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start buying things andmaterials and seeking all kinds
of other things that will bringus joy.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But they say that money can't buy happiness.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Who says that?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I don't know man.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I mean people say that and it's probably true.
It's not a true happiness.
Sure.
I mean it can be.
It would definitely help mostpeople.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Let's be real.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, no matter what, though, the empty feeling
doesn't really go away.
So what do we do?
A lot of people keep lookingaround in the wrong places, and
they just can't find thatmissing piece.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They need Jesus.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Is that that?
Yeah, I think that's whatthey're saying.
So, but those people becomecold and they don't know what to
look for.
They just keep looking aroundand can't find it.
They just can't do it Till theyfinally hit the rock bottom,
and then maybe they can wake upand take a new trail and live on
(25:36):
as long as they're notdestroyed by the reality of it
all.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
One can hope.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I mean, this is metal , right, it's so metal, it's so
metal.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Gets me right in the feelers.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
In the metal feelers.
Number four the Blinding Light.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Alright, the weekend, let's go.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Oh did he did?
Oh no, even Kanye had like ablinding lights thing.
Anyway, this one seems a littlemore straightforward as it's
about oppressive government.
Nice, right, kind of timeless.
Everybody could talk about someoppressive government here and
(26:56):
there, but you know they startoff with inciting fear and
causing people to look aroundand just ask too many questions.
Sounds a little familiar.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Just a bit.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You know they want to keep people inside, keep them
safe, because there's too muchfilth out in the world.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Wait, wait, wait, whoa.
Okay, when was this album?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
This was written in 2006.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, A little foreshadowing, or I guess it's
always just been a problem.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I don't know if it's a foreshadow, so to speak.
I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I think it's fitting in every timeline, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
It's happening all over, it happens in all the time
.
So, like I said, it's timeless.
You could always talk aboutthis situation, but there are
those that are born with asilver spoon in their mouth, and
those are the ones that have tobe protected, or that's what
the government is trying to tellus without telling us.
So they will do whatever theycan and take all life away to
(27:54):
protect those on top.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
That's brutal.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It is, it's scary.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's hard to think about.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And they got it all planned out and they don't need
individuality, we don't need tolisten to anything else, we just
need to stay home and they willfigure it all out for us.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Boring.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
But if they take their eyes off us, we can rise
up and take them down.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Alright, that's how it ends.
Now we're being tracked.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Oh, I've been on a watchlist.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Oh, have you.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Hmm, how would you ever know?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
With the feds come knocking on our doors Nah.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Okay, on to my favorite song Composer.
Check it out, pick yourself upand sing.
Your life fell apart again.
You got the scars.
So proud men.
It's not the first time.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Revealing the form.
Oh, it's a good one.
Oh, it's a good one.
Oh, tell the truth.
Don't be the same on your own.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Number five yes, super heavy.
I mean, I don't know if I heardthis one first or truth of a
liar, but they were just,they're just so good All time
probably all time top three song.
Right here I just forever,forever favorite song and it is
(29:45):
pretty much about keeping yourcomposure.
You know it's a hard thing todo sometimes, but when we go
through hardships it makes usbetter in life.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
There's always something to learn.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Things can fall apart on us, you know, and we all
have scars, physical and mental,to show for that.
Society tends to say that wejust need to pull ourselves
together and not show that pain,even as it gets deeper.
If you heard my dog, excuse him, we love him, but he's loud and
(30:20):
annoying.
Oh hello, his name is AleericIsn't that cool guys?
We have a dog named Lyric, andnow he's sitting on our lap,
anyway.
Um so, even though society,yeah, tells us and we sink
(30:44):
deeper, so our demeanor startsto change and we sink into
ourselves and, you know, we'rejust not the people that we used
to be and our, the things thatwe cared about, don't seem to be
as important.
We continue to get pulled underand everyone feels like it's
just so overwhelming, but wehave crutches that have always
(31:07):
been there our God and ourfamily and our community so we
can move away from the past andlead a great life, because we
don't have to do it all alone.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I love that.
Yeah, it's so true.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
It's a great song, heavy song.
Don't don't get the lyricswrong.
It's super metal.
All right, number six vitalsigns.
So this song seems to be kindof interesting.
(32:23):
I never knew this until Ilooked it up for this episode,
but it's something like to dowith a false preacher
controlling a church and, youknow, just corrupted.
And these people come to churchand they don't even really
understand it.
They're just leading andlistening to this because guy
who's saying all these nice andpretty things?
(32:45):
And this can happen more oftenthan not, whether the people
realize it on their own or don't.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
It's unfortunate you know some people.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Some people interpret the wrong way of the Bible and
then they get Confused and mixedup and this kind of stuff.
Yeah, you know, more and morepeople keep coming in and this,
this church, starts to crumble,but they just shake each other's
hands and it's all meaningless.
And then there's a really coolbuildup.
(33:17):
It gets really nice and heavytowards the end of this song.
Yeah, it gets like nice and yeahthey just come to a big end and
there's just nothing less stuff.
This poor church and it's allskin and bones and Faith is
ruined by the false prophet.
Wow, yeah, it's a prettyintense album.
You know I'm not looking reallylooking into it.
(33:40):
There's a.
There's a lot of heavy.
It's a pretty intense album.
You know I'm not looking reallylooking into it, really looking
into it.
There's a.
There's a lot of heavy hittingtopics.
Yeah but it's just all composedso well, such a pun intended.
Yes, all right.
(34:02):
Number seven, the 11th hourTrue, a heavy metal masterpiece
(34:43):
Just keeps.
This album just keeps pushingthem and you know, you just got
to listen, you got to keep goingall the way through they
deliver.
Yeah, one person believed thissong to be addressed to atheists
.
I don't think it's thatdramatic of a song, kind of like
you know the idea of in your11th hour You'll give it all up
(35:07):
and now you don't.
Now you see the truth beforeyou.
So, like people that don'tbelieve in God will have their
11th hour and be shown the truthCould be what it's talking
about never heard that, but thatsounds absurd.
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I don't know.
Well whatever you just said.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I just meaning like You've never heard of the 11th
hour.
No oh, it's just a way oftalking about like a Like your
final moments.
So like a warrior's 11th hourwould be like their last battle,
like they know they're notgonna survive, but they have to
go out and fight this battle forwhatever reason.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
So that's, I had a different idea, sorry.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, it's just a.
It's just a way to romanticizedeath and departure, I guess.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yikes, okay, continue .
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Okay, I Plan to.
We got to get through the restof this.
Yes somehow, but anyway, in the11th hour Everybody will come
to bend the knee to Jesus Christ, and whether you go to heaven
or hell is up to you, right.
That's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Dang it.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I didn't want to do that, but you did it for me.
Thank you, wife.
Number eight the balance.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Pretty straightforward song here.
Society or the government,doesn't want us thinking too
much, so they give us medicineto stop the false symptoms.
They try to manipulate us.
Once we are dosed up, as longas you listen to them, you will
have no identity and be perfect.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Isn't that?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
isn't that great.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Just where's the balance.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
That is the balance, is that everybody is the same
and you don't change, you don'tbreak free of any abnormality.
You're just plain Jane, doingit for your.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Oh boring.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah Well, I mean, there are people out there that
would have us normal, non-crazyrich people, I guess, is a way
to put it.
I don't know.
I hate to bring it back to likemoney, but it just seems like
there's a 1% and they want tocontrol everything.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Nope, not anymore.
We all know it Okay.
This is a really fun episode,huh, guys.
Yes yeah, we're going onvacation, so after this.
So hopefully we'll have a nicerefresher.
(38:45):
We'll come back and have somenew stuff for you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Boy, do we need it?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
We all need it.
Oh, so anyway, we got numbernine black sheep.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Another another pretty simple one are you
laughing because you're thinkingof the lullaby?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Is there Bob?
No no, but I mean, but I cansee you were thinking of it.
Yeah, the drums have alwaysstood out for me in this song.
(40:36):
Matt Grainer really just has away of weaving the beat in and
out flowing the time signaturesfor this song yeah, pretty much,
but I think this was like oneof the first ones right that
they recorded and Really justset that whole tone for their
music.
(40:57):
So the song, staying true to itstitle, seems to be about some,
but that's straight from theirfaith.
So a black sheep is somebodythat is a different, not quite
what they were supposed to be orwhat their Family was hoping
they would be.
You know, if you've gotsiblings and you're kind of the
weird one you might be, a blacksheep doesn't necessarily mean
(41:19):
anything.
What's wrong with you?
Just a hug.
You're a little odd.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Odd people are my favorite people.
Yeah they make life fun.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Mm-hmm, but in this song they try to get others to
join them.
So they're not the black sheep,but the other people won't
listen because they know thatthe black sheep is a problem and
will only bring about ruin forthe rest of them.
And this person, the blacksheep, just gets caught up in
(41:52):
all of their stuff and, you know, has a life in a jail cell,
basically because they don'twant to.
Like conform.
Well, conform.
But so I kind of set it up in aweird way, like it's more like
somebody that has Lost theirfaith and is trying to get other
people to follow them in theunrighteous path.
(42:17):
Right.
But nobody will follow them.
And then that person, the blacksheep, is in a lifeless Joseph.
Yes, so number 10, an Americandream.
That's not what this song'sabout the title.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, okay, right off .
Speaker 1 (43:09):
They got you.
I Didn't really like this songwhen I first got into the album.
First of all, it was towardsthe end.
So you know I would just repeatthe album because the cool
songs were at the beginning.
Yeah, and you know my youngeryears, I didn't like Politics.
I was annoyed whenever ourpolitics was brought up.
(43:31):
Yeah mm-hmm, but I've grown oldand I've seen too much.
I'm 30 now, dang it, but Ithink this song is aged pretty
well, considering the Americandream that we're all faced with
(43:53):
now.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Just like you.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I'm not an American dream but you aged very well.
Oh, da, da, da, ba, da ba bawe're having fun.
We're really having fun.
Hope you guys are enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
So we are.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
So but this song kind of points out how the younger
generation it's kind ofbrainwashed and they don't
really get to see how life wasbefore everything and the
Government and society can usethat to push their agendas.
And really just the problem isvanity, guys.
(44:41):
Vanity is a problem.
You know, don't, don't buy nicecool things, don't be
materialistic, give it all upand Then live the American dream
and then yeah, what's the?
Speaker 2 (44:55):
American dream.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Well, that's the problem because society tells
you it's materials, right, right, it's being perfect having the
best body, having the most stuff, the best cars.
But what they're trying to sayin this song is you don't need
it all, so it's all vanity.
Just give it all up.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, I mean, I guess the true American dream is just
living in freedom.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
The American dream has changed, and that's the
problem.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yep, the idea All right.
Finally, if you've made it thisfar, thank you so much.
We've got number 11, redcommission.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
With a heart in three , four hands.
I am a heart in three, two.
I am just a man With a heart inthree, four hands.
I am a heart in three, two.
Lord, show me the way.
Let my words be your words.
(46:23):
Let my thoughts be your light.
Let my words be your light.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Lord, show me the way .
Speaker 2 (47:03):
That's a final conclusion.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Problems and being a victim of our sins, and hoping
that you will show us the way.
Beautiful.
It's wonderful.
All right, guys, that is thealbum messengers by August Burns
Red, and hope you enjoyed it.
Hope you had a good time.
Glad you checked us out.
(47:52):
Yeah, no, I know we're not done.
We got a top three, so we'llhit you with that.
Cool, all right.
So we got Cool.
So we got that done.
Yeah, we did it, yep, and nowwe got our top three for this
(48:22):
week.
We decided this time we'regoing to do it live.
So we got a little website.
We're going to spin a littlewheel.
We got like eight topics onhere and we're going to see what
we land on and then we'll takea break and we'll come back and
tell you about the results.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Heck, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Okay, let's go.
Don't mind the music Too much.
Oh man, oh my gosh, all right.
That's cool.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
Yay.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
We only get to pick three.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, so okay, we're going to do top three 90s artist
.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Okay, is this specifically like a genre just
in general, over overall 90s?
Speaker 1 (49:08):
I think it's just anybody from the 90s.
You can make a list of threeand if you guys made it this far
and you're still listening,send us some top three topics.
What are some that you wouldlike to hear?
We, like I said, we got a wheel.
We can always add, we're goingto remove the ones we do and,
yeah, we'll keep doing yourrequests and we can make this
(49:31):
kind of fun for everybody.
So, yeah, we will be back withour answers and you won't even
know that we were gone.
All right, we're back.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Hi hey.
And we're back with the topthree artists of 90s or from the
90s.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, you can go first.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yeah, you can go first so okay, I got the
smashing pumpkins on my list.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Really, you listen to them.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, I just saw them .
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
With my cousin, like at the end of August, I think.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
With Stone Temple Pilots.
It was so good.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
That sounds really cool.
My first one.
These aren't really in an order.
I think we say that all thetime, but yeah, be sure to.
I'm going to start it off withGreen Day.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
I knew it I knew you would do that.
That's why I didn't.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
It's on mine, yeah it was either them or another one
that I won't mention becausemaybe it's on your list, but
yeah, they doubt it.
You probably won't see thiscoming yeah we'll have some
runner ups, but they had somecool stuff.
They were fun.
I remember playing their musicon my CDs, my little headsets.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Right on.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Next for you.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Oh, I'm sorry.
Next on my list is AlonisMorissette.
Who.
Alonis Morissette.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
I don't know that person Group.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Wow, yeah, you do.
She has that song iconic.
It's like rain.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Oh, okay, okay, Well, that's cool.
I mean, okay, if you're goingto go like so, are you thinking
more like what you werelistening to in the 90s?
Like what?
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Well, I was only like in the 90s for a short amount
of time, okay.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
So, let's say, in the 2000s, whatever when you
started listening to music andyou started and you picked up a
couple of 90s artists, was thatwhat influenced your picks?
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, I would say so Absolutely.
I still listen to them today.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Okay, cool, so I think we're on my second one.
I mean, and if that's kind ofwhere you're going, well, I
won't go there.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Honestly, I don't know if I ever say her name
right.
Can I just say that real quick.
I don't know if it's Alonis orAlanis Morissette, I hear it
both ways.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
I mean Alonis looks right to me.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
But see, I might be biased because Again sounds
right to me.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Okay, so my second one, right Second one yes.
Yeah, it's going to be rageagainst the machine.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Really.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah.
Wow.
I just I really I thought theywere really cool.
I mean, when I finally did Ididn't find them in the 90s,
clearly, but when I did comeupon them I really enjoyed their
stuff and they were cool.
They were fun.
Like I didn't really like punkmusic but they were more trashy
and against the establishment,it was fun.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
I know I'm surprised they're on your list, yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
All right, so your final one.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
It's really hard.
I wish I can pick more thanjust three, because there's a
lot of really good artists tochoose from, but I just saw I
just can't.
I just had to put them on thelist over everybody else.
Matchbox 20.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Wow Okay.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
I love them.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
That's cool.
So my biggest thing was fromthem was they were in a lot of
like early sport video games.
Like I remember hearing theirmusic and like I want to say
Tony Hawks and like SSX, thesnowboarding game.
So that's cool.
I like that pick.
Yeah.
My final pick is going to beSystem of a Down.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
They were great.
I mean, I actually rememberlistening to them in like fifth,
sixth grade when I was showingthem.
I think it was like barely 2000.
And I was listening to them andit really changed my mind about
music and what I had seen andheard about music.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
They were same for me .
They were actually my firstconcert and I was 11.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
So, to say the least, they definitely influenced my
music taste and I definitelyhave in the future to go over a
few of their albums, so lookingforward to that, but seeing them
live, it's so awesome.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Yeah, I bet they have a great show.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Like the light show and everything Heck yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, runner up and a bit of a shout out here, mom, I
do like the Backstreet Boys.
I won't listen to them anymore,but they were a good 90s band.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Yeah, wasn't that your first concert technically?
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Well, we just put that out there.
Yes, I was taken to aBackstreet Boys concert.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Against your will.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
I was not old enough to decide against and I had fun.
I'm not saying I didn't enjoyit, but it wasn't my choice.
Like I said, when I found othermusic, I enjoyed it more.
I'm not to mom yes, you'rewelcome.
I don't even think she listens,but I might have her listen to
(55:05):
this one.
All right, guys, thanks again.
We love you.
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Speaker 2 (01:14):
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Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right, well, next , yeah, we have a little shout
out for the homie Ryan.
We're doing August Burns RedBaby Messenger's album.
Good old, solid, just.
Oh man, this is such a goodalbum Just.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I know of it and I can picture it when you say it,
but I don't know if I'veactually sat down and listened
to it all the way through.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, I mean you can, it's one you can put on and
like let it go through, it'sheavy, it's metal, it's good old
classic, just blast beats.
And China, it's good heavystuff that you're going to enjoy
, and metalcore all the waythrough, and that's what they
(02:03):
consider it.
And I don't know.
I mean it's, is it even melodic?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I think so.
I mean, what does melodicreally mean?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Right, that's the.
That's the real question Iswhat is really melodic?
Maybe I'm an idiot and I don'tknow.
Just let me know, you guyscould tell me it.
Maybe they are melodic and I'mmissing the whole point.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But they are.
I would say they are.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I mean it's melodic.
So is that just melodies?
Like, of course they havemelodies, everybody's got
melodies, but metal melodies Iguess.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah go ahead and look it up, so I'm going to give
them a little background.
This album, messengers, cameout in June 19th of 2007 with
solid state records.
It was recorded in just about amonth, between January 29th and
March 3rd of that year.
Yeah they were ready to go.
It was produced by the band andTua Madison Madsen, a Danish
(03:04):
producer.
Notable bands that he workedwith was Meshugah, Suicide
Silence, the cleansing album.
Specifically, he helped withBlack Dollya Murders of Verminus
album, which was a later album.
Nice.
Yeah, and he began back in 1997and worked all the way through
to 2020.
(03:25):
So this guy's been around for agood time.
He retired, no, I just couldn'tfind anything after 2020.
And for sure, pretty sure he'sstill around.
But yeah he helped out with thisalbum.
I believe his name was TuaMadison.
Pretty cool, this album sold9,000 copies and it's first week
(03:46):
yeah, it went all the way to80,000.
I don't know what that timeperiod is.
I guess it's at 80,000 overall,because that just seems low.
But maybe if that's onlyphysical copies I could kind of
understand that.
But I mean, I guess that's cool.
I mean 2007, were we focusingon hard copies?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, so I mean how many?
How?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
back in.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
What did Britney do back then?
How many hard copies wasBritney selling?
Britney Spears selling backthen?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh, good one In comparison, Probably 2007,.
I want to say she was on hersecond or maybe third album.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'm just talking hard copies.
Do you have any?
You don't know any.
You don't need any numbers oflike how many copies I just I
don't know, I'm just trying tofind a comparison oh, like, sold
, yeah, because that's what I'mtalking about here.
9,000 copies were sold in thefirst week of this album coming
out and I just don't know.
That just seems like low to me.
But I guess back then thestandards were different and I
(04:52):
don't know what those standardswere.
Anyway, onto the band members.
We've got the boy, the man, thelegend.
Jake Allure's, lee Vocals, mattGreener on drums another legend
.
I mean, everybody here's alegend, come on, let's be real.
But Matt Greener, he playsdrums and piano.
(05:13):
We got JB Brubaker on leadguitar, brent Rambler on rhythm
guitar, dustin Davidson on thebass and backing vocals.
These guys were around for thisalbum specifically.
I know they've had a coupledifferent members, but I'm
pretty sure JB, matt Greener andDustin have always been in the
(05:35):
band since its inception.
Additionally, we had TroyGlesender was a mastering on
this album and then Jay Dunn,ray Clark from a band Demon
Hunter.
They had like a little bandgoing on back then, but they
were.
They later kind of gave that upand were more like scouts and
(05:58):
worked for Solid State Records,and JD especially was the artist
and repertoire, which is aninteresting job.
Basically, it's a division of arecord label or music
publishing company that isresponsible for talent scouting
and overseeing the artistic.
So I mean, the best I can sayis he basically is like hey, I
(06:18):
found these guys in a bar and Ithink they're really cool and he
like tells the record labelabout them and then helps them
prepare themselves for therecord label.
Yeah, so he works with them,he's in the scene, knows all the
cool people, knows all the onesthat might be popping, and he
kind of scouted them out in asense.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
So can you tell us the names again one more time?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Of the band members.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Of who you're just talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh, this is John Dunn and Ryan Clark.
Okay, John Dunn, specifically,thank you, jd sometimes referred
to.
He was the artist andrepertoire and he'll come up
again later.
That's why I kind of bring himup right now.
But he was just like a guy thatdid a thing for records Solid
State Records and kind of, in away, brought August Burns Red on
(07:08):
to their radar.
Oh okay Because they had onlythey had done one album, I
believe, before this one, andthey kind of got them on the on
track, but they weren't likepopping popping Okay.
So we also had Jared Nudson didthe cover photo and David Hill
did band photo, all right, so Igot an interview.
(07:34):
I found this interview.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
We love interviews.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, we like, did we like the interviews?
We want to hear what they werefeeling, what they were thinking
.
It's good information.
This is a this guy.
I found it on a Reddit.
If I will, it will get.
It was a link on Reddit to killthe musicnet.
A guy named Jordan Muller didthis interview back in 2016,
(07:58):
october 27th, about four albumsafter this album, messengers,
came out.
Yeah, he hit up JB, jb Brubaker, the lead guitarist, and did
this retrospective.
He called it so in thisinterview.
You know he just asking themquestions.
(08:20):
Band didn't have a whole lot ofexpectations for this album
when it came out.
They were just happy with thesound and glad people were
listening to it.
And a week later, john Dunn,their A&R, came around and was
like hey guys, you are 81 on thetop of Billboard 200.
Wow.
Billboard 200 top.
Wow, okay, it's called theBillboard top 200.
(08:42):
I'm so sorry.
I'm a massacre at that.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Sorry, we all do, we have our moments.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, I'm having a moment this whole time, but
thanks guys for being here in mymoment I'm happy to be here.
I'm having fun.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's a blast.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
This, this surprised them, you know, being 81 on the
top 200 Billboard, and it wasthe moment that they realized
that they were a real band.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
What?
Yeah right, they're real, areal band.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Dude ain't just no more garages and bars were real
guys.
Wow.
Jb mentions that this was thealbum that put them on the map
and how younger bands tell themit was an inspiration.
Definitely for me too, growingup.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
But alternatively he would geek out when he would go
on tours with bands like as A LeDying and Breeding Between the
Buried and Me.
It's kind of a cool little.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Deli Guterres.
Yeah this is.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
JB talking Cool.
Yeah, I mean it's kind of cool,like you know they're all just
guys.
But like, everybody hasinspirations and sometimes
meeting your heroes isn't as badas some songs make it out to be
.
So he's just kind of talkingabout how he would geek out and
like be like, oh man you guysare so great, you're such an
inspiration.
But then he would also have guyscome up to him later on in his
career and be like oh my God,your albums, your guys' earlier
(10:06):
stuff is what made me become aguitarist, and blah, blah, blah.
So it's really cool.
Yeah, just seeing both sides.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That must be really rewarding.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I'm sure when asked about the lyrics of Messengers
he said he can't imagine writinglike that anymore.
It's definitely a differentstyle that they had back then.
Matt in particular was verybiblical, had a lot of theology.
Brent had like frustrationswith societies when he was
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writing, and then JB Are theseprevious vocalists?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Do you know what they're talking?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
about no, so they all kind of took turns like writing
songs.
Jake Lurez did not write allthe lyrics.
I don't have like a list ofexactly who wrote what.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Sure, I think that's pretty common though.
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
But they all worked together at different points to
write these songs.
So he's just speaking about howthey all have different writing
topics and then so yeah, soMatt was really biblical.
Brent had frustrations withsociety, and then JB wrote
Backburner, talking about yourconvictions and living in the
(11:18):
moment.
So Jamie was single at the timeand living with his parents.
His whole life was all about abr and touring.
I mean, it's just like a dream,you know.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I don't know how old he was at the time.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Oh man, that's a great question.
I Don't have it in my notes.
Okay, I want to say he wasyoung.
I mean he had to have been highschool, if not like really well
, maybe not high school andmaybe like, maybe like just
graduated, living with hisparents.
(11:58):
But he wasn't even worriedabout having a relationship, he
just put it all into the band.
It's awesome.
This is awesome dude.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I am.
I saw that throughout mybrother's band experience.
He's been in a lot of bands andyou can definitely tell the
different Individuals who tookit seriously and those who
didn't right and the ones whodid take it seriously are still
playing music today.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, it stinks because I mean, we all have
responsibilities and things thatcome our way and Things that we
don't plan for, that we have tohandle, but it's awesome to see
people keep pushing through andalways making music.
You know, music is a thing tolive for and I'm glad that we
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have the music we have and we'rehere to talk about it.
And yeah, I mean that's kind ofthe last point of this
interview was just the impact.
They couldn't imagine what itwould have on the community and
it just makes a lot of sense.
When you do your best work andyou put out great music, people
will enjoy it and that's all itreally takes sometimes.
Yeah, so you know, people thinkthere's a lot of stuff and a
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lot of behind the scenes and whoyou know.
But if you've got the talentand you've got the people that
put the heart into it, you can.
You can make it happen.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You can literally do anything you put your mind to.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Absolutely.
But we really do have the powerand I got power, we got the
power, got a couple facts foryou guys.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh, I love you guys like facts.
Be to do the bunch.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Dang it.
She's smart.
I'm not as smart as her guys.
That's why it took me a month toresearch all this, but we're
here.
We made it, I'm sorry.
So there was a rumor about howthis band name came about.
Mm-hmm, they did an interviewin 2007, right after this album
(14:01):
came out.
You know, okay, as a way toAdvertise, oh, you put.
Oh, brent, the other guitarist,brent, he, he had a story.
So there was a guy named JohnHershey, the original vocalist,
(14:21):
I guess, the guy who made thisband pretty much along with the
rest of the members.
So, original members.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Hershey must be an awesome last name.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
You think so I don't like it.
I mean, I like Hershey, butlike the chocolate.
But I wouldn't want my name tobe Hershey, unless I had all of
that chocolate money, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I don't think this guy had chocolate money.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
No, no chocolate money.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Nope, not for this man, because he was dating a
woman named August, won't youknow?
And Supposedly they broke upand she was not happy.
So she came to his house andlit his dog red on fire.
That was what they told in this2007 interview.
They kind of made a joke aboutit, and then you know they
(15:05):
decided to name their bandAugust Prince Red, which was
originally with two D's.
They were pretty elaborate withthis whole thing, so I was not
expecting that.
Yeah, neither was I, so Iwanted to give that out, but it
was also debunked, and I'm right, you said it was a rumor.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
In a 2012 radio interview, the drummer, matt,
came in with some realinformation and said now we just
came up with a name to come upwith a name.
I guess back in 2007 they werejust having fun and making up
stuff, but yeah, they just cameup with it to come up with it
(15:45):
good old dog name read yeah,with two D's.
August Prince Red.
If you know this band, youprobably have an idea that they
are pretty Christian and.
I didn't want to get super intoit, but they, they have
evertones, they all have theirown own style of belief and I
kind of got into some researchand found that they actually, as
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a band, struggled withcancelling themselves Christian
metal or just metal Because theydidn't want people to confuse
their music with other Christianinfluencers that actually
spread real word.
Gospel yeah they're morefocused on just making cool
music.
They are Christian people.
They are Christian people butnot their music.
(16:29):
Does that make sense?
Like they're not gonna be likemean and gross and
anti-Christian in their music,but they don't necessarily write
about huh just their personalbeliefs.
Sometimes they do write aboutthat, but they don't make their
music solely for that purpose.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
(16:51):
Um, so yeah, they wanted tomaybe talk about not being
Christian labeling, but theykept it in the long run.
I see yeah and then my favoritepart about this album and.
Abr in general is just the useof the China this album, just
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any song and Check it out.
Breakdowns and other rhythms.
I mean the China just rings andit is amazing it got me to get
a China.
I had to have one when I wasplaying drums and I loved using
it, and it's probably why Ican't hear as well out of my
Right ear anymore.
But hey, it was worth it.
(17:34):
I had a good time and itsounded awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, great China sound dope.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I love China.
They are Get yourself a Chinadrummers if you.
If you're a drummer, just do it, go for it.
It is also worth noting thatthey did a remixed version of
this album in 2016.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Oh really.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, it was like re-recorded and remastered after
they did the anniversary tour.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Oh nice.
Yeah, I think a lot of bands dothat, at least back then.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Um, I mean, not as many bands make it as long as
them, but the ones that do have,I believe yeah yeah, like
Pierce the veil and A dataremember nice.
All right on to the song list.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Whoo.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, good of the song list, get excited.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
It's the fun part best part, for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So we got number one.
Truth of a liar.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Mean what it is.
What's about?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
well, I couldn't find too much on this one At least
on the website that I checkedout Like about what it's what
the song is about, but I want tosay that it is a hard core song
to start off the album with.
It really sets the tone,definitely in all-time favorite.
(19:33):
I think it's got one of themost listens of all their songs
ever.
So yeah, great song for thebeginning of the album.
Anyway, I think this song mypersonal like interpretation
would be that it's about ego.
So you know.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That makes sense.
It kind of ties to the title.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, going so far as to believe that you know more
than other people.
You know and, like you're, youthink you're perfect, but you're
not.
That's just the world that welive in, and you really
shouldn't let ignorance controlyou.
Face the truth and don't livein denial.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
For sure you heard it here first.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I Hope you didn't hear it here first.
That's something you shouldalready know.
You.
Huh, so we got next up againstthe road.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Is that related to like pirates and stuff or no?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I always interpreted it as like boxing.
So when you're in like a boxingring and they got the ropes
around it and like someone'spushed you into a corner and Now
you're like on the ropes, soyou better Shape up and fight
back or you're gonna.
You're gonna be done.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yikes.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah scary but the this song isn't quite about that
.
I've found that it's aboutChristian faith and you know
you've got somebody that is Notas Into it as you are, so you're
trying to like help them, butthey just really don't want to
listen.
They would rather suffer inthis distance.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Do you mean like they're not really into the
religion?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
No, it's just.
They Don't want to hear it likethey don't.
They believe right, they'redoing fine and when, when really
they could be living a betterlife if they listen to this
friend, or so the friend istrying to tell them.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Hmm, I see.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, they may be saying things.
The person that Doesn't want tolisten is like you know, only
the strong and the fortunatewill survive.
I don't need to hear about thisfaith, but when they go home
and they think about themselvesand they look inside, they can
see that there is a lot ofproblem and they are actually
suffering in a dark time.
(22:43):
That hits deep, yeah, yeah.
So you know, you might want tolive a little better, but they
just continue to not live sowell and in the end we're all
dead.
So who really cares?
Right, at least that's what'spresented into this song, yeah,
but we have to remember that weare forgiven, so we can forgive
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ourselves and live on.
I will live on, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I don't know what that was.
It was just fitting, was it?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Came out of me.
I just started singing Cool.
Okay, we got number threebackburner Starting right off on
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the song, we got theconvictions of the backburner.
You know, when you're puttingsomething on the backburner, it
usually means you're notthinking about it, and that's
the problem in this song.
We know that there is something, but we don't really pay
attention to it.
That could make everythingbetter, right, but we decide to
(24:27):
start buying things andmaterials and seeking all kinds
of other things that will bringus joy.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But they say that money can't buy happiness.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Who says that?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I don't know man.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I mean people say that and it's probably true.
It's not a true happiness.
Sure.
I mean it can be.
It would definitely help mostpeople.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Let's be real.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, no matter what, though, the empty feeling
doesn't really go away.
So what do we do?
A lot of people keep lookingaround in the wrong places, and
they just can't find thatmissing piece.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They need Jesus.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Is that that?
Yeah, I think that's whatthey're saying.
So, but those people becomecold and they don't know what to
look for.
They just keep looking aroundand can't find it.
They just can't do it Till theyfinally hit the rock bottom,
and then maybe they can wake upand take a new trail and live on
(25:36):
as long as they're notdestroyed by the reality of it
all.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
One can hope.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I mean, this is metal , right, it's so metal, it's so
metal.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Gets me right in the feelers.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
In the metal feelers.
Number four the Blinding Light.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Alright, the weekend, let's go.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Oh did he did?
Oh no, even Kanye had like ablinding lights thing.
Anyway, this one seems a littlemore straightforward as it's
about oppressive government.
Nice, right, kind of timeless.
Everybody could talk about someoppressive government here and
(26:56):
there, but you know they startoff with inciting fear and
causing people to look aroundand just ask too many questions.
Sounds a little familiar.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Just a bit.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You know they want to keep people inside, keep them
safe, because there's too muchfilth out in the world.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Wait, wait, wait, whoa.
Okay, when was this album?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
This was written in 2006.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, A little foreshadowing, or I guess it's
always just been a problem.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I don't know if it's a foreshadow, so to speak.
I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I think it's fitting in every timeline, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
It's happening all over, it happens in all the time
.
So, like I said, it's timeless.
You could always talk aboutthis situation, but there are
those that are born with asilver spoon in their mouth, and
those are the ones that have tobe protected, or that's what
the government is trying to tellus without telling us.
So they will do whatever theycan and take all life away to
(27:54):
protect those on top.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
That's brutal.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It is, it's scary.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's hard to think about.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And they got it all planned out and they don't need
individuality, we don't need tolisten to anything else, we just
need to stay home and they willfigure it all out for us.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Boring.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
But if they take their eyes off us, we can rise
up and take them down.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Alright, that's how it ends.
Now we're being tracked.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Oh, I've been on a watchlist.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Oh, have you.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Hmm, how would you ever know?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
With the feds come knocking on our doors Nah.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Okay, on to my favorite song Composer.
Check it out, pick yourself upand sing.
Your life fell apart again.
You got the scars.
So proud men.
It's not the first time.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Revealing the form.
Oh, it's a good one.
Oh, it's a good one.
Oh, tell the truth.
Don't be the same on your own.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Number five yes, super heavy.
I mean, I don't know if I heardthis one first or truth of a
liar, but they were just,they're just so good All time
probably all time top three song.
Right here I just forever,forever favorite song and it is
(29:45):
pretty much about keeping yourcomposure.
You know it's a hard thing todo sometimes, but when we go
through hardships it makes usbetter in life.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
There's always something to learn.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Things can fall apart on us, you know, and we all
have scars, physical and mental,to show for that.
Society tends to say that wejust need to pull ourselves
together and not show that pain,even as it gets deeper.
If you heard my dog, excuse him, we love him, but he's loud and
(30:20):
annoying.
Oh hello, his name is AleericIsn't that cool guys?
We have a dog named Lyric, andnow he's sitting on our lap,
anyway.
Um so, even though society,yeah, tells us and we sink
(30:44):
deeper, so our demeanor startsto change and we sink into
ourselves and, you know, we'rejust not the people that we used
to be and our, the things thatwe cared about, don't seem to be
as important.
We continue to get pulled underand everyone feels like it's
just so overwhelming, but wehave crutches that have always
(31:07):
been there our God and ourfamily and our community so we
can move away from the past andlead a great life, because we
don't have to do it all alone.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I love that.
Yeah, it's so true.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
It's a great song, heavy song.
Don't don't get the lyricswrong.
It's super metal.
All right, number six vitalsigns.
So this song seems to be kindof interesting.
(32:23):
I never knew this until Ilooked it up for this episode,
but it's something like to dowith a false preacher
controlling a church and, youknow, just corrupted.
And these people come to churchand they don't even really
understand it.
They're just leading andlistening to this because guy
who's saying all these nice andpretty things?
(32:45):
And this can happen more oftenthan not, whether the people
realize it on their own or don't.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
It's unfortunate you know some people.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Some people interpret the wrong way of the Bible and
then they get Confused and mixedup and this kind of stuff.
Yeah, you know, more and morepeople keep coming in and this,
this church, starts to crumble,but they just shake each other's
hands and it's all meaningless.
And then there's a really coolbuildup.
(33:17):
It gets really nice and heavytowards the end of this song.
Yeah, it gets like nice and yeahthey just come to a big end and
there's just nothing less stuff.
This poor church and it's allskin and bones and Faith is
ruined by the false prophet.
Wow, yeah, it's a prettyintense album.
You know I'm not looking reallylooking into it.
(33:40):
There's a.
There's a lot of heavy.
It's a pretty intense album.
You know I'm not looking reallylooking into it, really looking
into it.
There's a.
There's a lot of heavy hittingtopics.
Yeah but it's just all composedso well, such a pun intended.
Yes, all right.
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Number seven, the 11th hourTrue, a heavy metal masterpiece
(34:43):
Just keeps.
This album just keeps pushingthem and you know, you just got
to listen, you got to keep goingall the way through they
deliver.
Yeah, one person believed thissong to be addressed to atheists
.
I don't think it's thatdramatic of a song, kind of like
you know the idea of in your11th hour You'll give it all up
(35:07):
and now you don't.
Now you see the truth beforeyou.
So, like people that don'tbelieve in God will have their
11th hour and be shown the truthCould be what it's talking
about never heard that, but thatsounds absurd.
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I don't know.
Well whatever you just said.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I just meaning like You've never heard of the 11th
hour.
No oh, it's just a way oftalking about like a Like your
final moments.
So like a warrior's 11th hourwould be like their last battle,
like they know they're notgonna survive, but they have to
go out and fight this battle forwhatever reason.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
So that's, I had a different idea, sorry.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, it's just a.
It's just a way to romanticizedeath and departure, I guess.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yikes, okay, continue .
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Okay, I Plan to.
We got to get through the restof this.
Yes somehow, but anyway, in the11th hour Everybody will come
to bend the knee to Jesus Christ, and whether you go to heaven
or hell is up to you, right.
That's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Dang it.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I didn't want to do that, but you did it for me.
Thank you, wife.
Number eight the balance.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Pretty straightforward song here.
Society or the government,doesn't want us thinking too
much, so they give us medicineto stop the false symptoms.
They try to manipulate us.
Once we are dosed up, as longas you listen to them, you will
have no identity and be perfect.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Isn't that?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
isn't that great.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Just where's the balance.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
That is the balance, is that everybody is the same
and you don't change, you don'tbreak free of any abnormality.
You're just plain Jane, doingit for your.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Oh boring.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah Well, I mean, there are people out there that
would have us normal, non-crazyrich people, I guess, is a way
to put it.
I don't know.
I hate to bring it back to likemoney, but it just seems like
there's a 1% and they want tocontrol everything.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Nope, not anymore.
We all know it Okay.
This is a really fun episode,huh, guys.
Yes yeah, we're going onvacation, so after this.
So hopefully we'll have a nicerefresher.
(38:45):
We'll come back and have somenew stuff for you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Boy, do we need it?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
We all need it.
Oh, so anyway, we got numbernine black sheep.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Another another pretty simple one are you
laughing because you're thinkingof the lullaby?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Is there Bob?
No no, but I mean, but I cansee you were thinking of it.
Yeah, the drums have alwaysstood out for me in this song.
(40:36):
Matt Grainer really just has away of weaving the beat in and
out flowing the time signaturesfor this song yeah, pretty much,
but I think this was like oneof the first ones right that
they recorded and Really justset that whole tone for their
music.
(40:57):
So the song, staying true to itstitle, seems to be about some,
but that's straight from theirfaith.
So a black sheep is somebodythat is a different, not quite
what they were supposed to be orwhat their Family was hoping
they would be.
You know, if you've gotsiblings and you're kind of the
weird one you might be, a blacksheep doesn't necessarily mean
(41:19):
anything.
What's wrong with you?
Just a hug.
You're a little odd.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Odd people are my favorite people.
Yeah they make life fun.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Mm-hmm, but in this song they try to get others to
join them.
So they're not the black sheep,but the other people won't
listen because they know thatthe black sheep is a problem and
will only bring about ruin forthe rest of them.
And this person, the blacksheep, just gets caught up in
(41:52):
all of their stuff and, you know, has a life in a jail cell,
basically because they don'twant to.
Like conform.
Well, conform.
But so I kind of set it up in aweird way, like it's more like
somebody that has Lost theirfaith and is trying to get other
people to follow them in theunrighteous path.
(42:17):
Right.
But nobody will follow them.
And then that person, the blacksheep, is in a lifeless Joseph.
Yes, so number 10, an Americandream.
That's not what this song'sabout the title.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, okay, right off .
Speaker 1 (43:09):
They got you.
I Didn't really like this songwhen I first got into the album.
First of all, it was towardsthe end.
So you know I would just repeatthe album because the cool
songs were at the beginning.
Yeah, and you know my youngeryears, I didn't like Politics.
I was annoyed whenever ourpolitics was brought up.
(43:31):
Yeah mm-hmm, but I've grown oldand I've seen too much.
I'm 30 now, dang it, but Ithink this song is aged pretty
well, considering the Americandream that we're all faced with
(43:53):
now.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Just like you.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I'm not an American dream but you aged very well.
Oh, da, da, da, ba, da ba bawe're having fun.
We're really having fun.
Hope you guys are enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
So we are.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
So but this song kind of points out how the younger
generation it's kind ofbrainwashed and they don't
really get to see how life wasbefore everything and the
Government and society can usethat to push their agendas.
And really just the problem isvanity, guys.
(44:41):
Vanity is a problem.
You know, don't, don't buy nicecool things, don't be
materialistic, give it all upand Then live the American dream
and then yeah, what's the?
Speaker 2 (44:55):
American dream.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Well, that's the problem because society tells
you it's materials, right, right, it's being perfect having the
best body, having the most stuff, the best cars.
But what they're trying to sayin this song is you don't need
it all, so it's all vanity.
Just give it all up.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, I mean, I guess the true American dream is just
living in freedom.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
The American dream has changed, and that's the
problem.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yep, the idea All right.
Finally, if you've made it thisfar, thank you so much.
We've got number 11, redcommission.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
With a heart in three , four hands.
I am a heart in three, two.
I am just a man With a heart inthree, four hands.
I am a heart in three, two.
Lord, show me the way.
Let my words be your words.
(46:23):
Let my thoughts be your light.
Let my words be your light.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Lord, show me the way .
Speaker 2 (47:03):
That's a final conclusion.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Problems and being a victim of our sins, and hoping
that you will show us the way.
Beautiful.
It's wonderful.
All right, guys, that is thealbum messengers by August Burns
Red, and hope you enjoyed it.
Hope you had a good time.
Glad you checked us out.
(47:52):
Yeah, no, I know we're not done.
We got a top three, so we'llhit you with that.
Cool, all right.
So we got Cool.
So we got that done.
Yeah, we did it, yep, and nowwe got our top three for this
(48:22):
week.
We decided this time we'regoing to do it live.
So we got a little website.
We're going to spin a littlewheel.
We got like eight topics onhere and we're going to see what
we land on and then we'll takea break and we'll come back and
tell you about the results.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Heck, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Okay, let's go.
Don't mind the music Too much.
Oh man, oh my gosh, all right.
That's cool.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
Yay.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
We only get to pick three.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, so okay, we're going to do top three 90s artist
.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Okay, is this specifically like a genre just
in general, over overall 90s?
Speaker 1 (49:08):
I think it's just anybody from the 90s.
You can make a list of threeand if you guys made it this far
and you're still listening,send us some top three topics.
What are some that you wouldlike to hear?
We, like I said, we got a wheel.
We can always add, we're goingto remove the ones we do and,
yeah, we'll keep doing yourrequests and we can make this
(49:31):
kind of fun for everybody.
So, yeah, we will be back withour answers and you won't even
know that we were gone.
All right, we're back.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Hi hey.
And we're back with the topthree artists of 90s or from the
90s.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, you can go first.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yeah, you can go first so okay, I got the
smashing pumpkins on my list.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Really, you listen to them.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, I just saw them .
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
With my cousin, like at the end of August, I think.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
With Stone Temple Pilots.
It was so good.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
That sounds really cool.
My first one.
These aren't really in an order.
I think we say that all thetime, but yeah, be sure to.
I'm going to start it off withGreen Day.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
I knew it I knew you would do that.
That's why I didn't.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
It's on mine, yeah it was either them or another one
that I won't mention becausemaybe it's on your list, but
yeah, they doubt it.
You probably won't see thiscoming yeah we'll have some
runner ups, but they had somecool stuff.
They were fun.
I remember playing their musicon my CDs, my little headsets.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Right on.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Next for you.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Oh, I'm sorry.
Next on my list is AlonisMorissette.
Who.
Alonis Morissette.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
I don't know that person Group.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Wow, yeah, you do.
She has that song iconic.
It's like rain.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Oh, okay, okay, Well, that's cool.
I mean, okay, if you're goingto go like so, are you thinking
more like what you werelistening to in the 90s?
Like what?
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Well, I was only like in the 90s for a short amount
of time, okay.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
So, let's say, in the 2000s, whatever when you
started listening to music andyou started and you picked up a
couple of 90s artists, was thatwhat influenced your picks?
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, I would say so Absolutely.
I still listen to them today.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Okay, cool, so I think we're on my second one.
I mean, and if that's kind ofwhere you're going, well, I
won't go there.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Honestly, I don't know if I ever say her name
right.
Can I just say that real quick.
I don't know if it's Alonis orAlanis Morissette, I hear it
both ways.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
I mean Alonis looks right to me.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
But see, I might be biased because Again sounds
right to me.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Okay, so my second one, right Second one yes.
Yeah, it's going to be rageagainst the machine.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Really.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah.
Wow.
I just I really I thought theywere really cool.
I mean, when I finally did Ididn't find them in the 90s,
clearly, but when I did comeupon them I really enjoyed their
stuff and they were cool.
They were fun.
Like I didn't really like punkmusic but they were more trashy
and against the establishment,it was fun.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
I know I'm surprised they're on your list, yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
All right, so your final one.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
It's really hard.
I wish I can pick more thanjust three, because there's a
lot of really good artists tochoose from, but I just saw I
just can't.
I just had to put them on thelist over everybody else.
Matchbox 20.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Wow Okay.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
I love them.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
That's cool.
So my biggest thing was fromthem was they were in a lot of
like early sport video games.
Like I remember hearing theirmusic and like I want to say
Tony Hawks and like SSX, thesnowboarding game.
So that's cool.
I like that pick.
Yeah.
My final pick is going to beSystem of a Down.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
They were great.
I mean, I actually rememberlistening to them in like fifth,
sixth grade when I was showingthem.
I think it was like barely 2000.
And I was listening to them andit really changed my mind about
music and what I had seen andheard about music.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
They were same for me .
They were actually my firstconcert and I was 11.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
So, to say the least, they definitely influenced my
music taste and I definitelyhave in the future to go over a
few of their albums, so lookingforward to that, but seeing them
live, it's so awesome.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Yeah, I bet they have a great show.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Like the light show and everything Heck yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, runner up and a bit of a shout out here, mom, I
do like the Backstreet Boys.
I won't listen to them anymore,but they were a good 90s band.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Yeah, wasn't that your first concert technically?
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Well, we just put that out there.
Yes, I was taken to aBackstreet Boys concert.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Against your will.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
I was not old enough to decide against and I had fun.
I'm not saying I didn't enjoyit, but it wasn't my choice.
Like I said, when I found othermusic, I enjoyed it more.
I'm not to mom yes, you'rewelcome.
I don't even think she listens,but I might have her listen to
(55:05):
this one.
All right, guys, thanks again.
We love you.
Let us know what you think.
We're on Instagram at oh, ourdogs outside.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
I gotta go Postmoshpod at on IG.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Right and our email is you know what?
Speaker 2 (55:29):
Postmosh clarity on Instagram and postmoshpod at
gmailcom.
Gotta go get my dog Bye.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
All right you.
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