John Clarke on care, the commons, and if we can really compare capitalism with Joan Rivers

The discussion in this episode focuses on how we can imagine different types of economy that prioritize things that are more important than growth, such as caring for each other, building stronger communities, and new ways of making decisions together. Our guest is John Clarke, an Emeritus Professor as the Open University in the UK. We talk about everything from Ronald Reagan to GDP, the idea of the commons, and whether modern capitalism can really be described as being similar to late-stage Joan Rivers.