June 3, 2025 • 33 mins
In this episode of Pour the Wine, It’s Rom-Com Time, Garry and Amy unwrap the second chapter of Mistletoe Murders: Poison in a Pear Tree, Part 2! Emily’s inner detective is sleighing the game as she stumbles into a blizzard of secrets, blackmail, and identity mix-ups. Can she crack the case of Marcus’s mysterious demise before someone else gets stuffed in a stocking? Tune in now as they unravel this tinsel-wrapped whodunnit!
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Amy (00:08):
welcome to for the wine.
It's rom-com time where we'llsip some wine and review all
things rom-com on the homeworkchannel.
I'm amy and I'm gary and Ithink you should, pour the was
that a little loud in the mic.
Garry (00:24):
I'm sorry, let me back away from the mic.
You're not supposed to kiss themic, you're just supposed to
talk into it.
Oh my gosh.
Amy (00:34):
All right, sorry, that took me a little by surprise.
That was very aggressive.
Garry (00:38):
Yes, it was, I'm sorry so .
I'm going to be pouring a cabsalve, a cab salve.
Amy (00:44):
And while I'm doing, that?
Garry (00:46):
why don't you tell the people out there in podcast land
what we are going to bereviewing today?
Amy (00:52):
I don't know if I have it in me right now.
Welcome to Tinsel Tuesdays,where we review all things
Christmas.
Today we're going to bereviewing episode number two of
the popular series MistletoeMurders.
Garry (01:06):
Yes, we are Ho, ho ho.
Amy (01:08):
Ho, ho, ho.
And you know what?
What?
Garry (01:11):
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Amy (01:25):
And you have not had a thing to drink.
Garry (01:28):
Yet right, I have not.
Amy (01:30):
Oh my gosh, we are on a roll tonight, okay.
Garry (01:33):
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Amy (01:41):
Yes, go ahead and head on over there to the social media
sites and let us know what youthink about mistletoe murders.
Maybe you watched it when itaired last fall yeah, and you
already know and we're not inthe know.
Yeah, so we we're.
We don't know what's going tohappen.
And boy was I surprised by thisepisode which we're going to
talk about yes, we are.
Garry (02:02):
So today we're going to be reviewing the second episode
of mistletoe Murders Poison in aPear Tree.
Amy (02:08):
What is it with you?
Garry (02:10):
Point two, part two.
I promise we haven't had a lotto drink which, like you said,
aired November 7, 2024 onHallmark Plus.
Amy (02:22):
Yes.
Garry (02:23):
So are we adding anybody new to this particular episode?
Amy (02:26):
We are not.
You can listen to the entirecast list at the beginning of
our review of episode one.
But when we do meet newcharacters or actors along the
way which maybe we will, I don'tknow we will definitely add
them in at this point in thepodcast.
Garry (02:41):
Yeah, I think we hit them all last.
Yeah, I think we did so.
Do you want a trivia question?
Amy (02:46):
Oh gosh, it's been a night already.
Sure, let's go for it.
Okay, let's do this.
Garry (02:52):
You know this one, which Hallmark Channel series follows
the life of a woman named CaseyNightingale.
Amy (03:00):
Oh, that's the Good Witch.
Ding ding, ding ding.
I know that one is such a goodseries if you have never watched
it.
Garry (03:08):
And Bert tell her what she won.
Oh my gosh, do, do, do, do, do,do, do, do, do, do, do do.
Amy (03:15):
Oh boy, we are here all night, people, we're here all
night.
Garry (03:19):
Yes, anyhoo, you got the question right, that's good.
Amy (03:22):
I assume so Wow, but Good Witch is a really good series.
Garry (03:27):
Yes, it is Good Witch, good series.
We enjoyed it.
That's another one you got mehooked on.
Amy (03:32):
Yes, it's very.
If you've never seen it, youshould definitely go watch it,
it's on.
Hallmark Plus right now.
I'm not sure where else it'savailable, probably other places
, but you can go catch.
It's just good.
Just good tv, just enjoyable,not too heavy, some heartfelt
moments, well, lots of heartfeltmoments.
Really just smooth and easy andnice a little bit of magic and
(03:54):
a little bit of magic thrown in.
Garry (03:56):
Yeah, so it's good so is it time to drop this enough I
would say so.
Amy (04:01):
Okay, all right.
Emily continues to investigatethe tree farm murder, drawing
Sam's attention.
Garry (04:09):
Is that it?
Amy (04:10):
That's it, woo.
Short and sweet and to thepoint Wow.
Garry (04:15):
We'll probably give away some spoilers, so if you haven't
watched it yet, go watch it.
Then come back to our review.
Amy (04:23):
I am 100% certain we're going to give away spoilers in
this one.
Garry (04:26):
Well, we usually do.
Amy (04:28):
Go watch it if you don't want to know what happens and
then come back because we aregoing to be spilling the beans,
probably in this one Spillingthe beans Roll that beautiful
bean footage there's not reallya choice.
I mean really.
Garry (04:41):
No, it's not.
I mean, there was a lot goingon in this particular episode.
Amy (04:46):
So we left off in episode one.
Where did we leave off at theend?
Gordon was poisoned.
Yep Right.
Yeah, we don't know if hesurvives right at the end of
episode one.
Garry (04:57):
No, you don't know, we don't know.
Amy (04:59):
We see a flashback from four years prior of Emily
running out of a building andthen the building explodes.
Garry (05:04):
Yeah, I'm interested to find out what that is.
Amy (05:06):
Yeah, so she obviously has some sort of past that she's
running from, but we don't knowwhat Marcus was going to
purchase the farm from Gordon.
Garry (05:14):
Yep.
Amy (05:16):
We learned that in the last episode, lizzie is pregnant,
which is Marcus's ex.
Garry (05:20):
Yes.
Amy (05:24):
And Trent is the daddy allegedly.
Yes, and Trent is the daddyallegedly yes, and we also
learned that Trent used apseudonym at the tree farm for
the carriage ride.
Garry (05:31):
Yes.
Amy (05:32):
But he ends up not going on the carriage ride.
Garry (05:34):
Correct we find out.
Amy (05:35):
So I here's part of the spoiler had no idea that we were
going to get the murder wrappedup in this episode.
I know right, I did not knowthat this was a series like that
.
Garry (05:47):
So I guess it's a two-episode per murder mystery,
yes, per murder Murder.
Amy (05:55):
Yes, so after this episode, after we watched episode number
two, I went and looked at thenames of all the rest of the
episodes and there's four moreepisodes, four more, yeah, so
it's a rest of the episodes andthere's four more episodes Four
more yeah.
So it's a total of six and eachone's like a part one, part two,
so I guess there's a murder ineach one, and then I had no idea
it was like that and I guesswe'll learn more about Emily's
(06:15):
past as we go, but each murderwill be different, so maybe we
will be adding more actors, morecharacters.
I don't know.
We didn't listen to the Audibleoriginal series so I'm not sure
how that went, if it was twoepisodes per murder, per murder.
Garry (06:34):
Well, we're going to find out, right?
Amy (06:36):
I think so.
Garry (06:37):
Because I'll tell you what.
What.
Who doesn't love a secretpregnancy, a contested farm deed
?
Amy (06:46):
You're doing air quotes like people can see you.
Oh, you know what.
What are you doing?
I don't know what's wrong withme today.
Garry (06:50):
Oh Jesus, Take the wheel.
Amy (06:55):
He's doing air quotes.
I don't even know if those areappropriate there, supposedly a
poison cookie that everyone intown thinks was used to kill
Marcus.
That's right, we had the poisoncookie.
Garry (07:06):
I mean, what damage can that do to your cookie business?
Amy (07:09):
A lot, I would think, if you had a poison cookie.
Garry (07:12):
But you know what's funny , I think?
Every time Emily gets deeperinto the case, it seems like she
risks exposing the secrets fromher past.
Amy (07:26):
Yeah.
So I think that's a pretty cooltwist, right yeah that
definitely is a common threadthroughout both episodes so far,
because I think she sayssomething like at the beginning,
like getting involved is anunforced error.
Yes, and she said self-sabotage, thy name is Emily.
Garry (07:43):
That was so funny.
That line was so funny.
Amy (07:45):
Yes, yeah, so you can see she's doing things that are
going to make people think she'ssmarter than the average bear.
She's obviously into.
Garry (07:54):
Something.
Something we just don't knowwhat, and the more she picks
locks and asks questions andyeah, and what's funny is that
at the end of each episode sheseems like she gets a gift from.
Is it Ray?
Who's the furniture?
Amy (08:11):
owner.
That's at the end of this one.
Yeah, yeah.
Garry (08:12):
Because at the end of the last one, doesn't she like open
up her little cubby hole andbreaks out the case with the
laptop.
Amy (08:19):
Yeah, that's right.
Garry (08:20):
We learned she's got secrets, but we don't know
what's in this particular case,this time Right, we have to wait
she gets a case, right, right.
Amy (08:27):
Well, she didn't get that other one as a gift.
Garry (08:28):
She just opened it up from her, not a gift, but you
know, it's Some mystery box,some mystery box, mystery box.
Amy (08:37):
So I guess we should we keep saying murder yes and I was
thinking maybe we shouldexplain why we say it that way
yeah, you explain you?
You want me to explain?
Garry (08:45):
yes, because you're the one that told me about it.
Amy (08:47):
So there was.
There was a tv series calledcity confidential and it ran
from 1998 to 2023 actually, andit was a real-life crime story
documentaries, right, mostlyabout murders, so the late actor
Paul Winfield used to narrateit, and so it would crack me up,
because every episode startedlike it was a small town, the
(09:12):
kind where children playedoutside, people didn't lock
their doors until there was amurder.
Garry (09:22):
And I didn't lock their doors until there was a murder
and I didn't believe you andyou're like, okay, we're gonna
go find one of these episodes.
Amy (09:26):
I had to look it up because every episode it was like it
was a smile, a small, quaintlittle town yes, and I rolled,
laughing his voice is so perfectwhen he said it since 1998.
That is how I've been sayingmurder.
Garry (09:40):
So if you hear it, like that.
Amy (09:41):
it's like there's a murder.
Oh my goodness, All right.
So, anyway, that's just alittle.
And he passed away,unfortunately, in 2004.
So he narrated that series from1998 till his death in 2004.
And then there was anothernarrator, who I forget who it
was, but it's never the same.
Garry (09:56):
It never the same, it never the same.
Amy (09:57):
He's the icon of that series.
So City Confidential Go checkit out.
Garry (10:02):
Check it out and see what we're talking about.
You will laugh.
Amy (10:05):
All right, anywho, anywho, all right, let's get to.
Garry (10:08):
But you know what else is funny?
What's?
Amy (10:09):
that.
Garry (10:10):
Emily always gets caught at the scene.
Amy (10:13):
Oh, you know what?
Garry (10:20):
That's point.
You know, sam is alwayscatching her can you imagine
being sam going?
Amy (10:21):
oh my god, what is with this woman?
That is true because at thebeginning, um you know, gordon
was poisoned and we find out hesurvived.
Yeah, and sam is like, whatwere you doing at the tree farm?
Because she was there, right,she found, or she's the one who
called, yeah, the police, right,so you're right, she is kind of
in the wrong place at the wrongtime often.
Garry (10:40):
She is that type of person that you know she does it
and then she asks forforgiveness later.
Amy (10:46):
Well, maybe I don't know.
Garry (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, she can't help herself, she can't get out
of her own way with theinvestigation part.
Amy (10:54):
So well, let's get into some of the big revelations of
this episode.
Garry (10:58):
Okay, Some big revelations, some big
revelations, some bigrevelations.
Amy (11:00):
Again if you haven't watched it.
Spoiler alert push pause, gowatch and come back.
Garry (11:05):
Yes, please do so.
We're about to play that.
The first revelation is whatwas the first one?
Gordon survives.
Amy (11:11):
Gordon survived the poisoning.
Garry (11:13):
He's not murder.
Amy (11:14):
He's not death by cookie, yeah, that we know of.
Garry (11:18):
Yet Right, right, right Okay.
Amy (11:19):
So Gordon, gordon does survive.
Yeah, he lives to see anotherday.
Yay, trent, you want to talkabout biggest revelations with
Trent?
Yes, so we find out and Emilygoes to interview Trent.
Garry (11:33):
Yes.
Amy (11:34):
And during the course of that interview she confronts him
about knowing that he used apseudonym at the tree farm.
Garry (11:43):
Yes, joey Vaughn, joey Vaughn.
Amy (11:46):
Yes, so she knows about that and she basically wants to
know what he was doing there.
And he actually thought thatLizzie was meeting up with her
ex Marcus.
Garry (11:58):
Yes.
Amy (11:59):
So he went to look and check it out.
Garry (12:02):
Right, he made a reservation and when he?
Got there, he realized that hisinclinations were wrong.
Amy (12:09):
Correct.
Correct that it was wrong.
Garry (12:12):
Right.
Amy (12:13):
So he realized that he was wrong about that.
So he left the tree farm Right.
So that eliminates him as asuspect in the murder the murder
of marcus.
Yes, right because he left thetree farm he ran into.
He says he ran ran into anna atthe gas station right right, so
um, and then that's when emilyasks him about the ford, or
(12:36):
asking if there was a withdrawalright.
Garry (12:38):
Right am I.
Amy (12:38):
If she can see that, if she could see his account and how
much was withdrawn, and that'swhere we find out it was forty
thousand dollars forty thousanddollars but she did she.
Garry (12:52):
The reason she found out he was actually there was a the
coat from the Right.
Amy (12:58):
She was looking at social media right.
Garry (12:59):
Yeah, she was looking at the Right right, and then when
she was going to see him, shewas across the street and he was
talking to someone else and hehad the exact same coat on, and
that's when she confronted him.
She picked up on the clue.
Amy (13:10):
She recognized the coat, not him, in the pictures of the
farm that day.
Yes, on social media.
Social media will get you everytime.
Garry (13:17):
Hey.
Amy (13:18):
It gives a lot of evidence.
I'm telling you.
Garry (13:20):
You put it up there, it stays up there, yep, yep.
Amy (13:24):
So that's how she knew he was there.
Garry (13:26):
For sure, right right, you're right, so that eliminates
.
Amy (13:29):
Trent.
So that eliminates Trent.
So then we have let's seeLizzie and Marcus, lizzie and
Marcus.
The Lizzie and Marcus, lizzieand Marcus, the Lizzie and
Marcus story.
Yes, so this time the mysterycame to her.
Lizzie went to.
Garry (13:45):
Emily's shop Store.
Amy (13:47):
Or store.
Yeah, yeah, because she'scurious about the cookie, right?
I believe she's trying tofigure out where it came from do
you think?
Garry (13:53):
Yeah, I think so.
Amy (13:54):
So Lizzie goes to the store and Emily's just coming, she.
So Lizzie goes to the store andEmily's just coming.
Garry (13:58):
She's coming home.
Home, she wants to go and relax, hug her kitties, drink some
wine, take a bath.
Right when she looks over andshe actually sees Lizzie.
So she walks up to her and says, can I help you?
And Lizzie was like, yeah, I'mkind of hungry.
Amy (14:15):
Craving because I'm pregnant.
Blah, blah, blah, yep.
So they go inside the store,right, right and that's when
Emily confronts Liz about thebaby.
Garry (14:27):
Help me the baby, okay.
Amy (14:28):
Yeah, I'm like you're looking at me like I'm like the.
Are we doing charades here thatno one can see too, I know?
Garry (14:34):
right, you're right, I know right, you're right, so,
emily.
Amy (14:37):
So we find out that the baby is actually Marcus's, and
Lizzie hadn't told Trent yet,because Trent thinks it's his
baby.
Garry (14:46):
Right.
Amy (14:47):
Right, because they got together shortly after her and
Marcus split up.
And then we find out thatLizzie did tell Marcus.
Garry (14:56):
Yes.
Amy (15:01):
That he was the baby's daddy and they were trying to
figure out what to do right andhow they meet in, like the
restaurant, in the cafe, andthey, they discuss it.
And marcus is, you know, he'snot mad at lizzie, he's just
like, we'll figure it out, we'llmove forward.
And in the meantime, marcus isin love with june and he's what
engaged to her and all thisother jazz.
And then we find out that lizziewas being blackmailed right for
(15:24):
forty thousand dollars yes, shetells emily that she was being
blackmailed and that marcus wasmurdered because of her, because
she needed the money, andthat's why marcus withdrew the
cash right of $40,000 so hecould give it to Lizzie to give
to the blackmailers.
But we don't know who theblackmailers are yet.
Garry (15:45):
Did I miss anything?
Both of them were at the treefarm at the same night, on the
same ride.
Amy (15:53):
And Marcus had said I have some business to take care of,
so he was really deep down.
A good guy?
Yes, he was.
He was trying to take care ofRight, so he was really deep
down a good guy?
Garry (15:58):
Yes, he was.
He was a really good guy.
He was trying to help her out.
Amy (16:00):
Yes, and then you find out that we also find out this is an
aside that Marcus did tell June.
Yes, june didn't know and shewasn't upset.
I kind of like that you know,because Marcus and Lizzie were
together and they didn't getback together after they split
up.
But she was pregnant and youknow it happens right.
Garry (16:18):
He was an open book with her.
Amy (16:19):
Right, right, so June did know that.
Is there anything else duringthat Lizzie meeting?
Garry (16:24):
Well, we then find out that Marcus had given Lizzie a
piece of the cookie in the woods.
Amy (16:31):
Yes, that's a big part of it, thank you.
Garry (16:33):
And that's when we find out that the cookie wasn't
poisoned.
Amy (16:37):
It was not murder by cookie it was not, you're right.
Garry (16:42):
And she's telling Emily this in the store, right.
And then Emily is like wait aminute, you had a piece of the
cookie.
And she was like yes, and shegoes.
Well, then the cookie wasn'tpoisoned, right.
And then that's when she askedLizzie to do one more favor for
her, and that was to go to thepolice to get June off of the
(17:03):
Well to tell them to tell themthat Marcus was tell them the
whole story.
Amy (17:07):
Right, right and then that, yeah, then they realized that
June didn't do it by cookie.
Garry (17:13):
Yes, by cookie Right.
Amy (17:15):
So that the cookie wasn't wasn't Poison, because the
cookie wasn't there.
Garry (17:21):
Right, right, it was gone .
It was gone.
Just the wrapper was there.
It wasn't on the scene.
Amy (17:24):
It wasn't on the scene anymore.
The actual cookie.
Garry (17:27):
Right, so that's okay.
So that covers Lizzie andMarcus and Marcus.
So let's move on to Anna.
Amy (17:34):
Oh wait June.
Garry (17:35):
Oh, june, june is released, june is.
Amy (17:37):
And she goes and meets Emily at the cafe.
Garry (17:41):
Correct.
Amy (17:42):
And that's where Emily has another.
Oh my gosh.
Garry (17:46):
Oh, my gosh moment.
Amy (17:47):
Oh my gosh moment.
And she goes to the tree farm.
Garry (17:50):
Yes.
Amy (17:51):
To confront dun dun dun Anna.
So now we're thinking maybeAnna did it.
Garry (17:58):
Right.
Amy (17:58):
Maybe Anna killed Marcus Because she doesn't know, we
don't know.
We don't know what's going on,so she is looking for the cash
at the tree farm.
Garry (18:08):
Anna's not there yet Emily is, and Anna's not there
and Anna catches her.
Digging behind the counter.
Amy (18:12):
Digging behind the counter and looking for a bag of cash
right.
Garry (18:16):
And then she wanted to know what are you doing here?
And then that's when Anna did.
Amy (18:20):
Anna, what are you doing here?
And then that's what.
Garry (18:21):
Anna did, and I wanted to know what Emily goes into.
I know you saw Trent at the gasstation.
He told me that he told youabout the $40,000.
What I'm confused about is andshe lifts up the duffel bag,
here's the duffel bag, butthere's no $40,000.
So what did you do with it?
Right, and at first she, annatried to say it wasn't her,
(18:42):
maybe it was her dad, but Emilywasn't having any of it.
So, anna, finally confessed thatwhen she was at school, the
gamblers that or that the peoplethat he owned, that Gordon, her
dad owed money to from gamblingdebts, had come to school and
told her if you don't get us$40,000, we're going to kill
(19:03):
your dad Right Right.
So Anna comes up with this ideathat she's going to text Lizzie
saying I know that that'sMarcus' baby and if you don't
give me $40,000.
Yeah, I mean it's really complexAll these storylines going
together and we still don't knowwho did it right at that point,
(19:24):
right right so and emilyfigures that part out because
she knows that gordon is not atech guy, so she knows right, he
couldn't have sent the textmessage lizzie, because lizzie
says she got a text messageright and so she knows yeah,
emily knows that gordon doesn'teven have a cell phone right or
(19:44):
or has a flip phone or whateverthat he would not be doing the
texting.
Amy (19:48):
And that's when Anna fesses up.
Garry (19:50):
Yes.
Amy (19:50):
That she was the one blackmailing Lizzie and she gave
the money to the Gamblers orthe people he.
I guess they're probably notgamblers, but yeah, whatever, I
don't know.
Garry (20:01):
Whatever they are, they're the mafia, mafia.
Amy (20:04):
And that's who you see in the first episode that comes out
of the bar.
Garry (20:07):
Yes, yes, because they have a duffel bag and they're
getting in the car and takingoff, so that solves that
particular mystery.
Amy (20:18):
So then we have the biggest reveal of the episode, which is
who did it, who did the murder.
So Emily's in the barn, right,she's go ahead.
Garry (20:29):
So, after talking with Anna and telling her she needs
to clean up her own mess, sheleaves the store and as she's
walking down the steps she hearsthe horse in the barn.
Oh, right, and you know thehorse sounds startled, so you
know Emily being the detectivethat she is.
She goes over to the barn andshe's like hello is there
(20:49):
anybody in here?
And the thing that catches hereye is a ladder that's coming
down from the second floor tothe first floor.
Right and she's like huh, thatwasn't here before, that wasn't
here before and Gordon had saidit wasn't.
Amy (21:02):
sturdy up there Right and she's like huh, that wasn't here
before.
That wasn't here before andGordon had said it wasn't sturdy
up there.
Garry (21:06):
Right, it's not safe to go up there.
Not safe to go up there, andwhat does she do?
Amy (21:10):
She goes up there.
Yeah, would I go up there.
Garry (21:12):
No, no, hell, no, I'd be like Anna.
Amy (21:15):
Do you know what kind of have you ever?
Garry (21:19):
been in a barn.
Amy (21:20):
My grandma had a barn.
Garry (21:21):
My grandpa built a nice barn.
They had some critters, huh.
Amy (21:23):
Well, I'm just saying, going up in the loft area was
scarce, scarce.
Garry (21:28):
Yeah, I bet it was Especially as a little kid right
?
Amy (21:29):
Yeah, I wouldn't do it as an adult Are you kidding me as
little as I like bugs andthere's no lighting, that's true
.
No, thank you.
Now, the horses are great onthe lower level, but going up,
nope, no, thank you, but anywho,emily goes up there.
Yeah, because she is.
Garry (21:48):
Like a cray-cray.
Amy (21:49):
Like a cray-cray, because she is a detective and she wants
to know what's going on.
Garry (21:54):
Yes.
Amy (21:54):
So she goes up and she discovers that Rowan yes.
Rowan's stuff is up there.
Garry (22:01):
Yeah, like he's been staying there.
Amy (22:02):
And Rowan's stuff is up there, yeah, like he's been
staying there and she sees hisbackpack.
Garry (22:05):
Right, right, which she goes through, she dumps out onto
the blanket.
Amy (22:09):
And what dumps out.
Garry (22:12):
It's the.
Let me see if I can pronouncethis Pentobarbital.
Amy (22:17):
Yes, yes, so it's the anesthesia for animals, right,
but that's what was used to killMarcus.
Garry (22:25):
By accident.
Well, that's what they found inhis system Right.
That's what killed him.
Amy (22:30):
Right Was this pentobarbital?
Garry (22:33):
Right, and when she actually finds it, rowan appears
behind her with a pitchforkRight.
And Emily gets up to walk awayand, as she does, she steps on a
board and falls right throughit falls through the floor right
to the bottom floor, just likegordon said, it wasn't safe up
there right, but she didn'tlisten there, but she didn't
(22:54):
listen so right, so she getsknocked out.
She's knocked out and when shecomes to she's tied up, and she
notices that across from heranna's also tied up.
Right gordon's daughter's there?
Amy (23:03):
yeah, she's, she's tied up and she notices that across from
her anna's also tied up, rightgordon's daughter's there yeah
she's, she's tied up and and umrowan gosh, his name just
escaped me for a second.
Garry (23:11):
I thought we just said it um.
Amy (23:13):
So he's, he's basically prepping the right to murder
them the pentobarbital right,yeah however you say it, he's
prepping that because he's goingto murder them and he's going
to set it up like Anna killedher.
Garry (23:29):
Right.
Amy (23:30):
And then killed herself.
Garry (23:31):
I guess Because she couldn't take the fact that she
killed Emily.
Amy (23:36):
Right, right it was.
Yeah, it was a littleconvoluted, but in that talk
with Emily, you know, and Emilyis trying to figure out what to
do, like she's evaluating thesituation.
She's biding time.
She's trying to figure out howthey're going to get out of that
situation.
Right, you can see it in herlook.
Garry (23:53):
Right.
Amy (23:54):
She's looking around, she's trying not to and she's keeping
him engaged in conversationThings that I've learned by
watching detective movies.
Things that I've learned bywatching detective movies
Detective Detective, right.
So yeah, so she's.
So in the course of thoseconversations, you find out that
Rowan had lost his home, or he.
Garry (24:12):
I forget that part where yeah, he was staying there
because he didn't have anywhereto stay.
Amy (24:16):
Right, so basically, yeah, he didn't have anywhere to stay
and he was upset at the factthat Gordon was going to sell
the farm.
Garry (24:25):
Right.
Or sell the yeah, yeah, thetree farm, the tree farm yeah.
Amy (24:29):
And so he put the poison in a flask.
Right and because Gordon is analcoholic.
He was supposed to drink it,but who picked it up instead?
Garry (24:38):
Marcus.
Amy (24:39):
Because Marcus is a good guy and he didn't want Gordon
drinking Right While he wasdriving the carriage around with
people in the back or ingeneral, right, yes, so we find
out that Marcus actually tookthe flask.
Garry (24:51):
Right and While he was waiting for whoever was
blackmailing Lizzie Right.
Amy (24:59):
He took a sip and Emily says it was because he probably
needed courage to face theseguys who were blackmailing, not
Emily Lizzie.
Garry (25:05):
Lizzie, Lizzie right.
Amy (25:08):
And so you find out that you know, okay, Marcus's murder
was a mistake, but he was stillgoing to murder somebody.
Garry (25:15):
Right right, he was going to murder Gordon.
Amy (25:17):
He was going to murder Gordon.
So in the meantime, Emily'strying.
Did I forget any otherrevelations?
Garry (25:23):
during that Well, that's when she was like.
Well, the flask wasn't on hisperson when the cops found him
and he told her or Rowan toldher that they had a search party
and he was the first one thatfound Marcus laying on the
ground.
Oh, that's right.
And he saw the flask and hepicked the flask up.
Amy (25:41):
Because he realized Marcus had drank from the flask that he
had put poison in.
Right, okay, that's right,that's right.
So then Emily is trying to gether hands on.
They're really taped together,right?
So she's trying to get themloose.
Yeah, cut and cut the tape.
And in the meantime she kind ofmotions for anna to make some
(26:04):
noise right while rowan is inthe horse stall yeah, right with
the.
I can't remember the name of thehorse oh, I don't either, but
so then anna makes no she shepushes like a shovel over or
something which hits a pail.
Yeah, and it makes a loud noiseand it startles the horse and
the horse ends up knocking Rowanout.
Yay, giving them time to getaway.
Garry (26:26):
Yes.
Amy (26:27):
And for her to call 911 and you see, sam is trying to call
her anyway.
Yes, yes.
So that was the big revelationit was Of all of that, so that
was.
That's the big revelation ofall of that, and Emily was
involved in every bit of everystoryline.
Yes, she was that sheinvestigated and she found some
things out.
You know, because you know thewell, I guess the blackmail was
part of it, but it was also likea side story, right, right and
(26:50):
the Trent thing.
That was like a side storywhere you kind of think maybe he
did it maybe he didn't.
It a side story where you kindof think maybe he did it, maybe
he didn't, it's almost likeeverybody did it.
But no, she eliminateseverybody, right, so then?
So then, at the end rowan orrowan rowan gets arrested right
for murder for murder, yeahright and.
Garry (27:10):
And then sam is sitting there talking to emily as
they're watching lizzie give orAnna give.
You know the cops, whatever.
Amy (27:19):
Right Information.
Garry (27:20):
Right and he kind of hints to Emily that he's glad
that she's okay.
Amy (27:27):
Okay, yeah, you know.
Garry (27:28):
And cause she was like so are you mad at me for you know
not calling you?
And he's like no, we'll saythat for another day.
Amy (27:35):
Right, not calling you, and he's like, no, we'll say that
for another day, right, right,and you kind of get the feeling
that he's starting to havefeelings for her Right, right
you?
can see that kind of developinga little bit.
I mean, it's kind of you know,that's the big reveal and we
haven't really talked about.
You know, emily and Samthroughout the whole thing kind
of have a good banter too.
She's got a lot of goodone-liners, like when we have
(27:56):
the Lizzie revelation and shehas Lizzie go to the police
station, right, and he's like ofcourse you were Sam's, like of
course you were involved, andshe's like you're not going to
give me credit for this, are you?
Yeah, you know, you're not evengoing to give me this one and
he's like no, no, I'm not.
No, it was really cute.
And then we also had, you know,sam and his daughter growing
(28:17):
closer and, yeah, we had somecool scenes with them and his
daughter's growing up.
And she understands now thather dad is even though he you
know they, he needed to bedivorced from her mom that he's
kind of missing the old life too, their old traditions and she's
like let's start new ones.
You know, let's.
So it was really cool to see ateenager kind of yeah, see that
(28:39):
and her dad and so not, there'sjust a lot going on, yeah yeah,
yeah, she's, and I like that.
They made her a good kid too.
Yeah, you know, I mean she'sgonna do kid things, but they
kind of made she's got a goodhead on her shoulders.
Garry (28:52):
She's kind to her dad, you know, so it's kind of cool
yeah, it was kind of funny whereat the beginning she didn't
want to do the karaoke.
Right, but in the end when shetells her dad that it's okay, we
don't have to do the familytraditions, we can make our own.
And as she's walking out of hisoffice, she turns around and
goes but we can do the karaoke.
Amy (29:12):
Well, she sees that he's a little bit sad Right, like he's
kind of looking like oh, andthen she says, hey, I know what
we can do, and it just makes himbrighten up, which is really
cool.
It's really cool.
Garry (29:23):
Yeah.
Amy (29:24):
And then I think I don't know if we mentioned this or not
how Emily gives Ray who owns?
The furniture store, ray islike her partner in crime.
Garry (29:34):
Yes, that's going to be interesting to find out what's
going on there.
Amy (29:36):
And at the end they're exchanging gifts right, yes.
And that's where she gives hima postcard that says something
like here's to keeping eachother's secrets.
So he's got some secrets thathe's hiding.
Yes, and he gives her a new box, so we're waiting to see what's
in that box.
I mean, there's a lot going oneven though a murder was solved.
Garry (29:55):
Right.
Amy (29:56):
So we still have more to go .
Garry (29:57):
Yes.
Amy (29:58):
And I'm just I don't know.
I think it's kind of a cool wayto storytell.
Garry (30:01):
Yeah, it is In two-part episodes like that.
I'm enjoying it actually.
Amy (30:03):
It's kind of like Murder.
She Wrote, only they're takingtwo episodes instead of one.
Garry (30:07):
Right, right, and then Murder, she Wr.
Amy (30:11):
we'll see what happens yeah .
Garry (30:14):
I think we will yeah, so yeah Out of five.
Amy (30:18):
Before we do that, what was your tinsel, did you?
Garry (30:22):
have a tinsel topped moment.
I.
I actually when they when shefigured out that Anna was the
one that said who Emily?
Emily found out that Anna wasthe one that text.
Amy (30:33):
Oh yeah.
Garry (30:37):
Because Gordon couldn't.
Oh yeah, yeah, because Gordoncouldn't text.
Oh yeah, that was kind of.
I thought that was a prettygood catch.
Yeah, and I didn't catch it.
Yeah, neither did I, so Ithought that was my tinsel top
moment.
What about you, your tinsel?
Amy (30:45):
top moment.
Well, we just talked about it.
In fact, you brought in thisepisode and but I just really
liked that moment.
And then she's like, hey, Ihave an idea we can go, let's go
(31:05):
to karaoke night.
And he's like, okay, andthey're just, I just thought
that, that I really liked that.
I thought that was yeah theydid.
So I thought that was cool.
That was cool.
And then you know, we're leftwith the mystery.
We don't know what's in the boxand we don't know what's going
to happen next.
Garry (31:20):
No, we don't.
So you got to stay tuned forseason one, episode three.
Amy (31:25):
That's right.
That's right.
Out of five ornaments, how manywould you hang on your tree for
this one?
Garry (31:39):
I'm going to give this a three and a half.
Amy (31:40):
Oh okay, what about you?
I'm gonna give it a four, okay,okay.
No, I thought it was good.
No, I thought it was reallygood.
I I was not expecting to wrapup the murder, this episode at
all.
Garry (31:45):
I had no idea we were gonna find out, and then I was
like oh crap, we just found outwho did it yeah, we did we found
out why.
Amy (31:52):
We found out all the information.
What is?
Garry (31:54):
happening.
What are they gonna do now?
What are they gonna next?
But they're setting up foranother murder.
Amy (32:00):
So yeah, I think it's kind of cool.
Garry (32:02):
Okay, but is that a wrap?
Amy (32:03):
That's a wrap.
Garry (32:04):
All right, well, thanks for listening.
Be sure to follow the podcastwherever you listen so you don't
miss one.
Also, follow us on social media.
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would really really appreciateyour positive review.
And if you didn't really reallylike the show, we still
appreciate your positive review.
Amy (32:24):
We would.
We would really appreciate it.
It would help us so much if youwould take the time to leave a
review and comment.
Go on our social media andcomment and we'll talk back.
Yes, we'll comment back when wecan.
Garry (32:36):
Yes.
We do have full-time jobsoutside of this, so I do comment
when we can.
Amy (32:42):
But yeah, that's right, very cool.
Join us next tinsel tuesdaywhen we review episode number
three, peril of the bells, partone, which I'm sure will be
followed by episode four, perilof the bells, part two.
You can catch the entire seasonof mistletoe murders on
Hallmark plus, so go check itout and then come back for our
(33:03):
weekly reviews.
You can also tune in onWednesdays for our Hallmark
movie reviews yes, Until then,fill up your glasses and push
play.
Thanks for listening.
Garry (33:12):
Cheers.
welcome to for the wine.
It's rom-com time where we'llsip some wine and review all
things rom-com on the homeworkchannel.
I'm amy and I'm gary and Ithink you should, pour the was
that a little loud in the mic.
Garry (00:24):
I'm sorry, let me back away from the mic.
You're not supposed to kiss themic, you're just supposed to
talk into it.
Oh my gosh.
Amy (00:34):
All right, sorry, that took me a little by surprise.
That was very aggressive.
Garry (00:38):
Yes, it was, I'm sorry so .
I'm going to be pouring a cabsalve, a cab salve.
Amy (00:44):
And while I'm doing, that?
Garry (00:46):
why don't you tell the people out there in podcast land
what we are going to bereviewing today?
Amy (00:52):
I don't know if I have it in me right now.
Welcome to Tinsel Tuesdays,where we review all things
Christmas.
Today we're going to bereviewing episode number two of
the popular series MistletoeMurders.
Garry (01:06):
Yes, we are Ho, ho ho.
Amy (01:08):
Ho, ho, ho.
And you know what?
What?
Garry (01:11):
We would love it if you would click that follow button
on your favorite podcastplatform so you don't miss an
episode If you listen on Appleor Spotify.
You can also leave us a review.
Hopefully it's a positive one.
Amy (01:25):
And you have not had a thing to drink.
Garry (01:28):
Yet right, I have not.
Amy (01:30):
Oh my gosh, we are on a roll tonight, okay.
Garry (01:33):
And you can also catch us on social media Facebook,
instagram, blue Sky.
X and, of course, threads.
Amy (01:41):
Yes, go ahead and head on over there to the social media
sites and let us know what youthink about mistletoe murders.
Maybe you watched it when itaired last fall yeah, and you
already know and we're not inthe know.
Yeah, so we we're.
We don't know what's going tohappen.
And boy was I surprised by thisepisode which we're going to
talk about yes, we are.
Garry (02:02):
So today we're going to be reviewing the second episode
of mistletoe Murders Poison in aPear Tree.
Amy (02:08):
What is it with you?
Garry (02:10):
Point two, part two.
I promise we haven't had a lotto drink which, like you said,
aired November 7, 2024 onHallmark Plus.
Amy (02:22):
Yes.
Garry (02:23):
So are we adding anybody new to this particular episode?
Amy (02:26):
We are not.
You can listen to the entirecast list at the beginning of
our review of episode one.
But when we do meet newcharacters or actors along the
way which maybe we will, I don'tknow we will definitely add
them in at this point in thepodcast.
Garry (02:41):
Yeah, I think we hit them all last.
Yeah, I think we did so.
Do you want a trivia question?
Amy (02:46):
Oh gosh, it's been a night already.
Sure, let's go for it.
Okay, let's do this.
Garry (02:52):
You know this one, which Hallmark Channel series follows
the life of a woman named CaseyNightingale.
Amy (03:00):
Oh, that's the Good Witch.
Ding ding, ding ding.
I know that one is such a goodseries if you have never watched
it.
Garry (03:08):
And Bert tell her what she won.
Oh my gosh, do, do, do, do, do,do, do, do, do, do, do do.
Amy (03:15):
Oh boy, we are here all night, people, we're here all
night.
Garry (03:19):
Yes, anyhoo, you got the question right, that's good.
Amy (03:22):
I assume so Wow, but Good Witch is a really good series.
Garry (03:27):
Yes, it is Good Witch, good series.
We enjoyed it.
That's another one you got mehooked on.
Amy (03:32):
Yes, it's very.
If you've never seen it, youshould definitely go watch it,
it's on.
Hallmark Plus right now.
I'm not sure where else it'savailable, probably other places
, but you can go catch.
It's just good.
Just good tv, just enjoyable,not too heavy, some heartfelt
moments, well, lots of heartfeltmoments.
Really just smooth and easy andnice a little bit of magic and
(03:54):
a little bit of magic thrown in.
Garry (03:56):
Yeah, so it's good so is it time to drop this enough I
would say so.
Amy (04:01):
Okay, all right.
Emily continues to investigatethe tree farm murder, drawing
Sam's attention.
Garry (04:09):
Is that it?
Amy (04:10):
That's it, woo.
Short and sweet and to thepoint Wow.
Garry (04:15):
We'll probably give away some spoilers, so if you haven't
watched it yet, go watch it.
Then come back to our review.
Amy (04:23):
I am 100% certain we're going to give away spoilers in
this one.
Garry (04:26):
Well, we usually do.
Amy (04:28):
Go watch it if you don't want to know what happens and
then come back because we aregoing to be spilling the beans,
probably in this one Spillingthe beans Roll that beautiful
bean footage there's not reallya choice.
I mean really.
Garry (04:41):
No, it's not.
I mean, there was a lot goingon in this particular episode.
Amy (04:46):
So we left off in episode one.
Where did we leave off at theend?
Gordon was poisoned.
Yep Right.
Yeah, we don't know if hesurvives right at the end of
episode one.
Garry (04:57):
No, you don't know, we don't know.
Amy (04:59):
We see a flashback from four years prior of Emily
running out of a building andthen the building explodes.
Garry (05:04):
Yeah, I'm interested to find out what that is.
Amy (05:06):
Yeah, so she obviously has some sort of past that she's
running from, but we don't knowwhat Marcus was going to
purchase the farm from Gordon.
Garry (05:14):
Yep.
Amy (05:16):
We learned that in the last episode, lizzie is pregnant,
which is Marcus's ex.
Garry (05:20):
Yes.
Amy (05:24):
And Trent is the daddy allegedly.
Yes, and Trent is the daddyallegedly yes, and we also
learned that Trent used apseudonym at the tree farm for
the carriage ride.
Garry (05:31):
Yes.
Amy (05:32):
But he ends up not going on the carriage ride.
Garry (05:34):
Correct we find out.
Amy (05:35):
So I here's part of the spoiler had no idea that we were
going to get the murder wrappedup in this episode.
I know right, I did not knowthat this was a series like that
.
Garry (05:47):
So I guess it's a two-episode per murder mystery,
yes, per murder Murder.
Amy (05:55):
Yes, so after this episode, after we watched episode number
two, I went and looked at thenames of all the rest of the
episodes and there's four moreepisodes, four more, yeah, so
it's a rest of the episodes andthere's four more episodes Four
more yeah.
So it's a total of six and eachone's like a part one, part two,
so I guess there's a murder ineach one, and then I had no idea
it was like that and I guesswe'll learn more about Emily's
(06:15):
past as we go, but each murderwill be different, so maybe we
will be adding more actors, morecharacters.
I don't know.
We didn't listen to the Audibleoriginal series so I'm not sure
how that went, if it was twoepisodes per murder, per murder.
Garry (06:34):
Well, we're going to find out, right?
Amy (06:36):
I think so.
Garry (06:37):
Because I'll tell you what.
What.
Who doesn't love a secretpregnancy, a contested farm deed
?
Amy (06:46):
You're doing air quotes like people can see you.
Oh, you know what.
What are you doing?
I don't know what's wrong withme today.
Garry (06:50):
Oh Jesus, Take the wheel.
Amy (06:55):
He's doing air quotes.
I don't even know if those areappropriate there, supposedly a
poison cookie that everyone intown thinks was used to kill
Marcus.
That's right, we had the poisoncookie.
Garry (07:06):
I mean, what damage can that do to your cookie business?
Amy (07:09):
A lot, I would think, if you had a poison cookie.
Garry (07:12):
But you know what's funny , I think?
Every time Emily gets deeperinto the case, it seems like she
risks exposing the secrets fromher past.
Amy (07:26):
Yeah.
So I think that's a pretty cooltwist, right yeah that
definitely is a common threadthroughout both episodes so far,
because I think she sayssomething like at the beginning,
like getting involved is anunforced error.
Yes, and she said self-sabotage, thy name is Emily.
Garry (07:43):
That was so funny.
That line was so funny.
Amy (07:45):
Yes, yeah, so you can see she's doing things that are
going to make people think she'ssmarter than the average bear.
She's obviously into.
Garry (07:54):
Something.
Something we just don't knowwhat, and the more she picks
locks and asks questions andyeah, and what's funny is that
at the end of each episode sheseems like she gets a gift from.
Is it Ray?
Who's the furniture?
Amy (08:11):
owner.
That's at the end of this one.
Yeah, yeah.
Garry (08:12):
Because at the end of the last one, doesn't she like open
up her little cubby hole andbreaks out the case with the
laptop.
Amy (08:19):
Yeah, that's right.
Garry (08:20):
We learned she's got secrets, but we don't know
what's in this particular case,this time Right, we have to wait
she gets a case, right, right.
Amy (08:27):
Well, she didn't get that other one as a gift.
Garry (08:28):
She just opened it up from her, not a gift, but you
know, it's Some mystery box,some mystery box, mystery box.
Amy (08:37):
So I guess we should we keep saying murder yes and I was
thinking maybe we shouldexplain why we say it that way
yeah, you explain you?
You want me to explain?
Garry (08:45):
yes, because you're the one that told me about it.
Amy (08:47):
So there was.
There was a tv series calledcity confidential and it ran
from 1998 to 2023 actually, andit was a real-life crime story
documentaries, right, mostlyabout murders, so the late actor
Paul Winfield used to narrateit, and so it would crack me up,
because every episode startedlike it was a small town, the
(09:12):
kind where children playedoutside, people didn't lock
their doors until there was amurder.
Garry (09:22):
And I didn't lock their doors until there was a murder
and I didn't believe you andyou're like, okay, we're gonna
go find one of these episodes.
Amy (09:26):
I had to look it up because every episode it was like it
was a smile, a small, quaintlittle town yes, and I rolled,
laughing his voice is so perfectwhen he said it since 1998.
That is how I've been sayingmurder.
Garry (09:40):
So if you hear it, like that.
Amy (09:41):
it's like there's a murder.
Oh my goodness, All right.
So, anyway, that's just alittle.
And he passed away,unfortunately, in 2004.
So he narrated that series from1998 till his death in 2004.
And then there was anothernarrator, who I forget who it
was, but it's never the same.
Garry (09:56):
It never the same, it never the same.
Amy (09:57):
He's the icon of that series.
So City Confidential Go checkit out.
Garry (10:02):
Check it out and see what we're talking about.
You will laugh.
Amy (10:05):
All right, anywho, anywho, all right, let's get to.
Garry (10:08):
But you know what else is funny?
What's?
Amy (10:09):
that.
Garry (10:10):
Emily always gets caught at the scene.
Amy (10:13):
Oh, you know what?
Garry (10:20):
That's point.
You know, sam is alwayscatching her can you imagine
being sam going?
Amy (10:21):
oh my god, what is with this woman?
That is true because at thebeginning, um you know, gordon
was poisoned and we find out hesurvived.
Yeah, and sam is like, whatwere you doing at the tree farm?
Because she was there, right,she found, or she's the one who
called, yeah, the police, right,so you're right, she is kind of
in the wrong place at the wrongtime often.
Garry (10:40):
She is that type of person that you know she does it
and then she asks forforgiveness later.
Amy (10:46):
Well, maybe I don't know.
Garry (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, she can't help herself, she can't get out
of her own way with theinvestigation part.
Amy (10:54):
So well, let's get into some of the big revelations of
this episode.
Garry (10:58):
Okay, Some big revelations, some big
revelations, some bigrevelations.
Amy (11:00):
Again if you haven't watched it.
Spoiler alert push pause, gowatch and come back.
Garry (11:05):
Yes, please do so.
We're about to play that.
The first revelation is whatwas the first one?
Gordon survives.
Amy (11:11):
Gordon survived the poisoning.
Garry (11:13):
He's not murder.
Amy (11:14):
He's not death by cookie, yeah, that we know of.
Garry (11:18):
Yet Right, right, right Okay.
Amy (11:19):
So Gordon, gordon does survive.
Yeah, he lives to see anotherday.
Yay, trent, you want to talkabout biggest revelations with
Trent?
Yes, so we find out and Emilygoes to interview Trent.
Garry (11:33):
Yes.
Amy (11:34):
And during the course of that interview she confronts him
about knowing that he used apseudonym at the tree farm.
Garry (11:43):
Yes, joey Vaughn, joey Vaughn.
Amy (11:46):
Yes, so she knows about that and she basically wants to
know what he was doing there.
And he actually thought thatLizzie was meeting up with her
ex Marcus.
Garry (11:58):
Yes.
Amy (11:59):
So he went to look and check it out.
Garry (12:02):
Right, he made a reservation and when he?
Got there, he realized that hisinclinations were wrong.
Amy (12:09):
Correct.
Correct that it was wrong.
Garry (12:12):
Right.
Amy (12:13):
So he realized that he was wrong about that.
So he left the tree farm Right.
So that eliminates him as asuspect in the murder the murder
of marcus.
Yes, right because he left thetree farm he ran into.
He says he ran ran into anna atthe gas station right right, so
um, and then that's when emilyasks him about the ford, or
(12:36):
asking if there was a withdrawalright.
Garry (12:38):
Right am I.
Amy (12:38):
If she can see that, if she could see his account and how
much was withdrawn, and that'swhere we find out it was forty
thousand dollars forty thousanddollars but she did she.
Garry (12:52):
The reason she found out he was actually there was a the
coat from the Right.
Amy (12:58):
She was looking at social media right.
Garry (12:59):
Yeah, she was looking at the Right right, and then when
she was going to see him, shewas across the street and he was
talking to someone else and hehad the exact same coat on, and
that's when she confronted him.
She picked up on the clue.
Amy (13:10):
She recognized the coat, not him, in the pictures of the
farm that day.
Yes, on social media.
Social media will get you everytime.
Garry (13:17):
Hey.
Amy (13:18):
It gives a lot of evidence.
I'm telling you.
Garry (13:20):
You put it up there, it stays up there, yep, yep.
Amy (13:24):
So that's how she knew he was there.
Garry (13:26):
For sure, right right, you're right, so that eliminates
.
Amy (13:29):
Trent.
So that eliminates Trent.
So then we have let's seeLizzie and Marcus, lizzie and
Marcus.
The Lizzie and Marcus, lizzieand Marcus, the Lizzie and
Marcus story.
Yes, so this time the mysterycame to her.
Lizzie went to.
Garry (13:45):
Emily's shop Store.
Amy (13:47):
Or store.
Yeah, yeah, because she'scurious about the cookie, right?
I believe she's trying tofigure out where it came from do
you think?
Garry (13:53):
Yeah, I think so.
Amy (13:54):
So Lizzie goes to the store and Emily's just coming, she.
So Lizzie goes to the store andEmily's just coming.
Garry (13:58):
She's coming home.
Home, she wants to go and relax, hug her kitties, drink some
wine, take a bath.
Right when she looks over andshe actually sees Lizzie.
So she walks up to her and says, can I help you?
And Lizzie was like, yeah, I'mkind of hungry.
Amy (14:15):
Craving because I'm pregnant.
Blah, blah, blah, yep.
So they go inside the store,right, right and that's when
Emily confronts Liz about thebaby.
Garry (14:27):
Help me the baby, okay.
Amy (14:28):
Yeah, I'm like you're looking at me like I'm like the.
Are we doing charades here thatno one can see too, I know?
Garry (14:34):
right, you're right, I know right, you're right, so,
emily.
Amy (14:37):
So we find out that the baby is actually Marcus's, and
Lizzie hadn't told Trent yet,because Trent thinks it's his
baby.
Garry (14:46):
Right.
Amy (14:47):
Right, because they got together shortly after her and
Marcus split up.
And then we find out thatLizzie did tell Marcus.
Garry (14:56):
Yes.
Amy (15:01):
That he was the baby's daddy and they were trying to
figure out what to do right andhow they meet in, like the
restaurant, in the cafe, andthey, they discuss it.
And marcus is, you know, he'snot mad at lizzie, he's just
like, we'll figure it out, we'llmove forward.
And in the meantime, marcus isin love with june and he's what
engaged to her and all thisother jazz.
And then we find out that lizziewas being blackmailed right for
(15:24):
forty thousand dollars yes, shetells emily that she was being
blackmailed and that marcus wasmurdered because of her, because
she needed the money, andthat's why marcus withdrew the
cash right of $40,000 so hecould give it to Lizzie to give
to the blackmailers.
But we don't know who theblackmailers are yet.
Garry (15:45):
Did I miss anything?
Both of them were at the treefarm at the same night, on the
same ride.
Amy (15:53):
And Marcus had said I have some business to take care of,
so he was really deep down.
A good guy?
Yes, he was.
He was trying to take care ofRight, so he was really deep
down a good guy?
Garry (15:58):
Yes, he was.
He was a really good guy.
He was trying to help her out.
Amy (16:00):
Yes, and then you find out that we also find out this is an
aside that Marcus did tell June.
Yes, june didn't know and shewasn't upset.
I kind of like that you know,because Marcus and Lizzie were
together and they didn't getback together after they split
up.
But she was pregnant and youknow it happens right.
Garry (16:18):
He was an open book with her.
Amy (16:19):
Right, right, so June did know that.
Is there anything else duringthat Lizzie meeting?
Garry (16:24):
Well, we then find out that Marcus had given Lizzie a
piece of the cookie in the woods.
Amy (16:31):
Yes, that's a big part of it, thank you.
Garry (16:33):
And that's when we find out that the cookie wasn't
poisoned.
Amy (16:37):
It was not murder by cookie it was not, you're right.
Garry (16:42):
And she's telling Emily this in the store, right.
And then Emily is like wait aminute, you had a piece of the
cookie.
And she was like yes, and shegoes.
Well, then the cookie wasn'tpoisoned, right.
And then that's when she askedLizzie to do one more favor for
her, and that was to go to thepolice to get June off of the
(17:03):
Well to tell them to tell themthat Marcus was tell them the
whole story.
Amy (17:07):
Right, right and then that, yeah, then they realized that
June didn't do it by cookie.
Garry (17:13):
Yes, by cookie Right.
Amy (17:15):
So that the cookie wasn't wasn't Poison, because the
cookie wasn't there.
Garry (17:21):
Right, right, it was gone .
It was gone.
Just the wrapper was there.
It wasn't on the scene.
Amy (17:24):
It wasn't on the scene anymore.
The actual cookie.
Garry (17:27):
Right, so that's okay.
So that covers Lizzie andMarcus and Marcus.
So let's move on to Anna.
Amy (17:34):
Oh wait June.
Garry (17:35):
Oh, june, june is released, june is.
Amy (17:37):
And she goes and meets Emily at the cafe.
Garry (17:41):
Correct.
Amy (17:42):
And that's where Emily has another.
Oh my gosh.
Garry (17:46):
Oh, my gosh moment.
Amy (17:47):
Oh my gosh moment.
And she goes to the tree farm.
Garry (17:50):
Yes.
Amy (17:51):
To confront dun dun dun Anna.
So now we're thinking maybeAnna did it.
Garry (17:58):
Right.
Amy (17:58):
Maybe Anna killed Marcus Because she doesn't know, we
don't know.
We don't know what's going on,so she is looking for the cash
at the tree farm.
Garry (18:08):
Anna's not there yet Emily is, and Anna's not there
and Anna catches her.
Digging behind the counter.
Amy (18:12):
Digging behind the counter and looking for a bag of cash
right.
Garry (18:16):
And then she wanted to know what are you doing here?
And then that's when Anna did.
Amy (18:20):
Anna, what are you doing here?
And then that's what.
Garry (18:21):
Anna did, and I wanted to know what Emily goes into.
I know you saw Trent at the gasstation.
He told me that he told youabout the $40,000.
What I'm confused about is andshe lifts up the duffel bag,
here's the duffel bag, butthere's no $40,000.
So what did you do with it?
Right, and at first she, annatried to say it wasn't her,
(18:42):
maybe it was her dad, but Emilywasn't having any of it.
So, anna, finally confessed thatwhen she was at school, the
gamblers that or that the peoplethat he owned, that Gordon, her
dad owed money to from gamblingdebts, had come to school and
told her if you don't get us$40,000, we're going to kill
(19:03):
your dad Right Right.
So Anna comes up with this ideathat she's going to text Lizzie
saying I know that that'sMarcus' baby and if you don't
give me $40,000.
Yeah, I mean it's really complexAll these storylines going
together and we still don't knowwho did it right at that point,
(19:24):
right right so and emilyfigures that part out because
she knows that gordon is not atech guy, so she knows right, he
couldn't have sent the textmessage lizzie, because lizzie
says she got a text messageright and so she knows yeah,
emily knows that gordon doesn'teven have a cell phone right or
(19:44):
or has a flip phone or whateverthat he would not be doing the
texting.
Amy (19:48):
And that's when Anna fesses up.
Garry (19:50):
Yes.
Amy (19:50):
That she was the one blackmailing Lizzie and she gave
the money to the Gamblers orthe people he.
I guess they're probably notgamblers, but yeah, whatever, I
don't know.
Garry (20:01):
Whatever they are, they're the mafia, mafia.
Amy (20:04):
And that's who you see in the first episode that comes out
of the bar.
Garry (20:07):
Yes, yes, because they have a duffel bag and they're
getting in the car and takingoff, so that solves that
particular mystery.
Amy (20:18):
So then we have the biggest reveal of the episode, which is
who did it, who did the murder.
So Emily's in the barn, right,she's go ahead.
Garry (20:29):
So, after talking with Anna and telling her she needs
to clean up her own mess, sheleaves the store and as she's
walking down the steps she hearsthe horse in the barn.
Oh, right, and you know thehorse sounds startled, so you
know Emily being the detectivethat she is.
She goes over to the barn andshe's like hello is there
(20:49):
anybody in here?
And the thing that catches hereye is a ladder that's coming
down from the second floor tothe first floor.
Right and she's like huh, thatwasn't here before, that wasn't
here before and Gordon had saidit wasn't.
Amy (21:02):
sturdy up there Right and she's like huh, that wasn't here
before.
That wasn't here before andGordon had said it wasn't sturdy
up there.
Garry (21:06):
Right, it's not safe to go up there.
Not safe to go up there, andwhat does she do?
Amy (21:10):
She goes up there.
Yeah, would I go up there.
Garry (21:12):
No, no, hell, no, I'd be like Anna.
Amy (21:15):
Do you know what kind of have you ever?
Garry (21:19):
been in a barn.
Amy (21:20):
My grandma had a barn.
Garry (21:21):
My grandpa built a nice barn.
They had some critters, huh.
Amy (21:23):
Well, I'm just saying, going up in the loft area was
scarce, scarce.
Garry (21:28):
Yeah, I bet it was Especially as a little kid right
?
Amy (21:29):
Yeah, I wouldn't do it as an adult Are you kidding me as
little as I like bugs andthere's no lighting, that's true
.
No, thank you.
Now, the horses are great onthe lower level, but going up,
nope, no, thank you, but anywho,emily goes up there.
Yeah, because she is.
Garry (21:48):
Like a cray-cray.
Amy (21:49):
Like a cray-cray, because she is a detective and she wants
to know what's going on.
Garry (21:54):
Yes.
Amy (21:54):
So she goes up and she discovers that Rowan yes.
Rowan's stuff is up there.
Garry (22:01):
Yeah, like he's been staying there.
Amy (22:02):
And Rowan's stuff is up there, yeah, like he's been
staying there and she sees hisbackpack.
Garry (22:05):
Right, right, which she goes through, she dumps out onto
the blanket.
Amy (22:09):
And what dumps out.
Garry (22:12):
It's the.
Let me see if I can pronouncethis Pentobarbital.
Amy (22:17):
Yes, yes, so it's the anesthesia for animals, right,
but that's what was used to killMarcus.
Garry (22:25):
By accident.
Well, that's what they found inhis system Right.
That's what killed him.
Amy (22:30):
Right Was this pentobarbital?
Garry (22:33):
Right, and when she actually finds it, rowan appears
behind her with a pitchforkRight.
And Emily gets up to walk awayand, as she does, she steps on a
board and falls right throughit falls through the floor right
to the bottom floor, just likegordon said, it wasn't safe up
there right, but she didn'tlisten there, but she didn't
(22:54):
listen so right, so she getsknocked out.
She's knocked out and when shecomes to she's tied up, and she
notices that across from heranna's also tied up.
Right gordon's daughter's there?
Amy (23:03):
yeah, she's, she's tied up and she notices that across from
her anna's also tied up, rightgordon's daughter's there yeah
she's, she's tied up and and umrowan gosh, his name just
escaped me for a second.
Garry (23:11):
I thought we just said it um.
Amy (23:13):
So he's, he's basically prepping the right to murder
them the pentobarbital right,yeah however you say it, he's
prepping that because he's goingto murder them and he's going
to set it up like Anna killedher.
Garry (23:29):
Right.
Amy (23:30):
And then killed herself.
Garry (23:31):
I guess Because she couldn't take the fact that she
killed Emily.
Amy (23:36):
Right, right it was.
Yeah, it was a littleconvoluted, but in that talk
with Emily, you know, and Emilyis trying to figure out what to
do, like she's evaluating thesituation.
She's biding time.
She's trying to figure out howthey're going to get out of that
situation.
Right, you can see it in herlook.
Garry (23:53):
Right.
Amy (23:54):
She's looking around, she's trying not to and she's keeping
him engaged in conversationThings that I've learned by
watching detective movies.
Things that I've learned bywatching detective movies
Detective Detective, right.
So yeah, so she's.
So in the course of thoseconversations, you find out that
Rowan had lost his home, or he.
Garry (24:12):
I forget that part where yeah, he was staying there
because he didn't have anywhereto stay.
Amy (24:16):
Right, so basically, yeah, he didn't have anywhere to stay
and he was upset at the factthat Gordon was going to sell
the farm.
Garry (24:25):
Right.
Or sell the yeah, yeah, thetree farm, the tree farm yeah.
Amy (24:29):
And so he put the poison in a flask.
Right and because Gordon is analcoholic.
He was supposed to drink it,but who picked it up instead?
Garry (24:38):
Marcus.
Amy (24:39):
Because Marcus is a good guy and he didn't want Gordon
drinking Right While he wasdriving the carriage around with
people in the back or ingeneral, right, yes, so we find
out that Marcus actually tookthe flask.
Garry (24:51):
Right and While he was waiting for whoever was
blackmailing Lizzie Right.
Amy (24:59):
He took a sip and Emily says it was because he probably
needed courage to face theseguys who were blackmailing, not
Emily Lizzie.
Garry (25:05):
Lizzie, Lizzie right.
Amy (25:08):
And so you find out that you know, okay, Marcus's murder
was a mistake, but he was stillgoing to murder somebody.
Garry (25:15):
Right right, he was going to murder Gordon.
Amy (25:17):
He was going to murder Gordon.
So in the meantime, Emily'strying.
Did I forget any otherrevelations?
Garry (25:23):
during that Well, that's when she was like.
Well, the flask wasn't on hisperson when the cops found him
and he told her or Rowan toldher that they had a search party
and he was the first one thatfound Marcus laying on the
ground.
Oh, that's right.
And he saw the flask and hepicked the flask up.
Amy (25:41):
Because he realized Marcus had drank from the flask that he
had put poison in.
Right, okay, that's right,that's right.
So then Emily is trying to gether hands on.
They're really taped together,right?
So she's trying to get themloose.
Yeah, cut and cut the tape.
And in the meantime she kind ofmotions for anna to make some
(26:04):
noise right while rowan is inthe horse stall yeah, right with
the.
I can't remember the name of thehorse oh, I don't either, but
so then anna makes no she shepushes like a shovel over or
something which hits a pail.
Yeah, and it makes a loud noiseand it startles the horse and
the horse ends up knocking Rowanout.
Yay, giving them time to getaway.
Garry (26:26):
Yes.
Amy (26:27):
And for her to call 911 and you see, sam is trying to call
her anyway.
Yes, yes.
So that was the big revelationit was Of all of that, so that
was.
That's the big revelation ofall of that, and Emily was
involved in every bit of everystoryline.
Yes, she was that sheinvestigated and she found some
things out.
You know, because you know thewell, I guess the blackmail was
part of it, but it was also likea side story, right, right and
(26:50):
the Trent thing.
That was like a side storywhere you kind of think maybe he
did it maybe he didn't.
It a side story where you kindof think maybe he did it, maybe
he didn't, it's almost likeeverybody did it.
But no, she eliminateseverybody, right, so then?
So then, at the end rowan orrowan rowan gets arrested right
for murder for murder, yeahright and.
Garry (27:10):
And then sam is sitting there talking to emily as
they're watching lizzie give orAnna give.
You know the cops, whatever.
Amy (27:19):
Right Information.
Garry (27:20):
Right and he kind of hints to Emily that he's glad
that she's okay.
Amy (27:27):
Okay, yeah, you know.
Garry (27:28):
And cause she was like so are you mad at me for you know
not calling you?
And he's like no, we'll saythat for another day.
Amy (27:35):
Right, not calling you, and he's like, no, we'll say that
for another day, right, right,and you kind of get the feeling
that he's starting to havefeelings for her Right, right
you?
can see that kind of developinga little bit.
I mean, it's kind of you know,that's the big reveal and we
haven't really talked about.
You know, emily and Samthroughout the whole thing kind
of have a good banter too.
She's got a lot of goodone-liners, like when we have
(27:56):
the Lizzie revelation and shehas Lizzie go to the police
station, right, and he's like ofcourse you were Sam's, like of
course you were involved, andshe's like you're not going to
give me credit for this, are you?
Yeah, you know, you're not evengoing to give me this one and
he's like no, no, I'm not.
No, it was really cute.
And then we also had, you know,sam and his daughter growing
(28:17):
closer and, yeah, we had somecool scenes with them and his
daughter's growing up.
And she understands now thather dad is even though he you
know they, he needed to bedivorced from her mom that he's
kind of missing the old life too, their old traditions and she's
like let's start new ones.
You know, let's.
So it was really cool to see ateenager kind of yeah, see that
(28:39):
and her dad and so not, there'sjust a lot going on, yeah yeah,
yeah, she's, and I like that.
They made her a good kid too.
Yeah, you know, I mean she'sgonna do kid things, but they
kind of made she's got a goodhead on her shoulders.
Garry (28:52):
She's kind to her dad, you know, so it's kind of cool
yeah, it was kind of funny whereat the beginning she didn't
want to do the karaoke.
Right, but in the end when shetells her dad that it's okay, we
don't have to do the familytraditions, we can make our own.
And as she's walking out of hisoffice, she turns around and
goes but we can do the karaoke.
Amy (29:12):
Well, she sees that he's a little bit sad Right, like he's
kind of looking like oh, andthen she says, hey, I know what
we can do, and it just makes himbrighten up, which is really
cool.
It's really cool.
Garry (29:23):
Yeah.
Amy (29:24):
And then I think I don't know if we mentioned this or not
how Emily gives Ray who owns?
The furniture store, ray islike her partner in crime.
Garry (29:34):
Yes, that's going to be interesting to find out what's
going on there.
Amy (29:36):
And at the end they're exchanging gifts right, yes.
And that's where she gives hima postcard that says something
like here's to keeping eachother's secrets.
So he's got some secrets thathe's hiding.
Yes, and he gives her a new box, so we're waiting to see what's
in that box.
I mean, there's a lot going oneven though a murder was solved.
Garry (29:55):
Right.
Amy (29:56):
So we still have more to go .
Garry (29:57):
Yes.
Amy (29:58):
And I'm just I don't know.
I think it's kind of a cool wayto storytell.
Garry (30:01):
Yeah, it is In two-part episodes like that.
I'm enjoying it actually.
Amy (30:03):
It's kind of like Murder.
She Wrote, only they're takingtwo episodes instead of one.
Garry (30:07):
Right, right, and then Murder, she Wr.
Amy (30:11):
we'll see what happens yeah .
Garry (30:14):
I think we will yeah, so yeah Out of five.
Amy (30:18):
Before we do that, what was your tinsel, did you?
Garry (30:22):
have a tinsel topped moment.
I.
I actually when they when shefigured out that Anna was the
one that said who Emily?
Emily found out that Anna wasthe one that text.
Amy (30:33):
Oh yeah.
Garry (30:37):
Because Gordon couldn't.
Oh yeah, yeah, because Gordoncouldn't text.
Oh yeah, that was kind of.
I thought that was a prettygood catch.
Yeah, and I didn't catch it.
Yeah, neither did I, so Ithought that was my tinsel top
moment.
What about you, your tinsel?
Amy (30:45):
top moment.
Well, we just talked about it.
In fact, you brought in thisepisode and but I just really
liked that moment.
And then she's like, hey, Ihave an idea we can go, let's go
(31:05):
to karaoke night.
And he's like, okay, andthey're just, I just thought
that, that I really liked that.
I thought that was yeah theydid.
So I thought that was cool.
That was cool.
And then you know, we're leftwith the mystery.
We don't know what's in the boxand we don't know what's going
to happen next.
Garry (31:20):
No, we don't.
So you got to stay tuned forseason one, episode three.
Amy (31:25):
That's right.
That's right.
Out of five ornaments, how manywould you hang on your tree for
this one?
Garry (31:39):
I'm going to give this a three and a half.
Amy (31:40):
Oh okay, what about you?
I'm gonna give it a four, okay,okay.
No, I thought it was good.
No, I thought it was reallygood.
I I was not expecting to wrapup the murder, this episode at
all.
Garry (31:45):
I had no idea we were gonna find out, and then I was
like oh crap, we just found outwho did it yeah, we did we found
out why.
Amy (31:52):
We found out all the information.
What is?
Garry (31:54):
happening.
What are they gonna do now?
What are they gonna next?
But they're setting up foranother murder.
Amy (32:00):
So yeah, I think it's kind of cool.
Garry (32:02):
Okay, but is that a wrap?
Amy (32:03):
That's a wrap.
Garry (32:04):
All right, well, thanks for listening.
Be sure to follow the podcastwherever you listen so you don't
miss one.
Also, follow us on social media.
If show and are listening onApple Podcasts or Spotify, we
would really really appreciateyour positive review.
And if you didn't really reallylike the show, we still
appreciate your positive review.
Amy (32:24):
We would.
We would really appreciate it.
It would help us so much if youwould take the time to leave a
review and comment.
Go on our social media andcomment and we'll talk back.
Yes, we'll comment back when wecan.
Garry (32:36):
Yes.
We do have full-time jobsoutside of this, so I do comment
when we can.
Amy (32:42):
But yeah, that's right, very cool.
Join us next tinsel tuesdaywhen we review episode number
three, peril of the bells, partone, which I'm sure will be
followed by episode four, perilof the bells, part two.
You can catch the entire seasonof mistletoe murders on
Hallmark plus, so go check itout and then come back for our
(33:03):
weekly reviews.
You can also tune in onWednesdays for our Hallmark
movie reviews yes, Until then,fill up your glasses and push
play.
Thanks for listening.
Garry (33:12):
Cheers.
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