June 17, 2025 • 32 mins
In this episode of Pour the Wine, It’s Rom-Com Time, Garry and Amy dig deeper into the chilling murder of Clara and question whether Debbie’s poisoning is more than just coincidence. As the mystery in Fletcher’s Cove thickens, Emily and Sam must race to uncover the truth before the choir faces another deadly note.
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Amy (00:08):
Welcome to Pour the Wine.
It's rom-com time where we'llsip some wine and review all
things rom-com on the Hallmarkchannel.
I'm Amy.
Garry (00:15):
And I'm Gary and I'm about to pour the wine.
Amy (00:18):
Pour the wine we're pouring a cab Sav.
Garry (00:20):
As usual.
Amy (00:21):
Welcome back to Tinsel Tuesdays.
Yes, where we review all thingsChristmas.
Today we're reviewing episodenumber four of Mistletoe Murders
, peril of the Bells, part 2.
It originally aired on November21st 2024 on Hallmark Plus and
we did not watch it then, but weare watching it now.
Garry (00:41):
Yes, we are, yes, we are and we would love it if you
would click that follow buttonon your favorite podcast
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Amy (00:48):
Click it so you don't miss an episode.
You don't want to miss anepisode, do you?
Oh boy, You're singing.
No, you sure don't.
Garry (00:54):
No, if you listen on Apple or Spotify, you can also
leave us a review.
Amy (01:00):
A review and hopefully, it's a positive.
Oh my gosh.
Garry (01:04):
Are we going to be singing?
Amy (01:06):
all night long.
Garry (01:07):
Is this becoming a musical podcast?
I think so.
Maybe you know what we shoulddo one what?
Amy (01:11):
No, absolutely not.
That's a horrible idea.
Garry (01:14):
No, it would be fun, even though I can't sing.
Amy (01:16):
I can't sing.
Garry (01:17):
So that's what would make it fun?
Amy (01:19):
No, that would to be fun for me.
Garry (01:21):
Well, anyways, you can also find us on social media
Facebook, instagram, blue Sky Xand, of course, threads.
Amy (01:29):
Threads yes, head on over to the socials and let us know
your thoughts about MistletoeMurders.
If you watched it the first goaround, or maybe you're watching
it now.
We have Christmas in Julycoming up.
Maybe you want to get in thefestive murderous holiday spirit
, murderous Spirit.
Have a sip of wine dear.
Garry (01:49):
Have a sip.
Have a sip of wine, One sip.
Amy (01:51):
You can also email us and let us know your thoughts at
pourthewineisromcomtime atgmailcom.
Garry (01:58):
Yes.
Amy (01:59):
Shoot us an email and maybe we'll read it on the pod.
Garry (02:03):
Yes.
Amy (02:04):
Maybe We've done it once.
Garry (02:07):
We've done it before, let's do it again.
Amy (02:08):
Well, we are not going to be adding any actors to this
episode.
Okay, we covered them in partone all right.
Well, you know, and if you wantto hear the who the core actors
are, who are in all of theepisodes.
We did that during our reviewof the first episode.
Garry (02:30):
The first episode.
Yes, oh, you're putting me onthe spot.
Amy (02:32):
I'm going to put you on the spot.
Garry (02:33):
Okay, peril of the Bells, part one.
Amy (02:37):
No, not this one.
Garry (02:38):
The very first episode of Mistletoe Brothers A poison in
a pear tree.
A poison in a pear tree, partone.
Part one.
Amy (02:44):
Part one.
That was a trick question.
Garry (02:48):
It was, and I totally got tricked.
Amy (02:51):
All right, all right.
Garry (02:52):
Is it trivia time?
Amy (02:54):
Yes, I think so.
Garry (02:55):
Okay, here we go.
If you like to hear it, here wego.
Which holiday is second mostpopular for Hallmark movies
after Christmas, halloween,after Christmas Halloween.
After Christmas oh, after.
Amy (03:08):
Okay, sorry, I'm just Valentine's Day.
Garry (03:14):
Valentine's.
You heard it right hereValentine's.
Amy (03:31):
Usually it's these with the word mix-ups, but you today are
on fire I love it really,really.
Valentine's day duh gosh, giveme some wine I'm just gonna sit.
Garry (03:37):
You need to take a sip.
Yes, yes, yes, and it's time todrop the synopsis too, and
you're all like Valentine?
Amy (03:47):
Well, why don't you drop the synopsis?
Garry (03:49):
because I need a sip of wine.
Okay, drop the synopsis.
Emily and Sam work together tofind the choir killer period the
killer, the killer.
That's it.
That's the synopsis.
That's it.
Amy (04:04):
Very short and sweet, but it sums it up.
Garry (04:06):
They do find it in this episode.
That's what I need, theselittle one sentences.
Amy (04:10):
I know You're fine, you're fine.
Garry (04:12):
Well, we'll probably give away some spoilers, so if you
have not seen this yet, pleasepress pause.
Go watch the series, yes, andthen come back, listen to the
podcast and drop us an email.
Let us know how we did.
Amy (04:27):
All right, so let's talk about what happened on the
previous episode, episode numberthree.
Okay, Right where we left off.
Garry (04:35):
Yes.
Amy (04:37):
Vi, her store key disappears, yes, and she's
freaking out a little bit.
We don't know where it is.
Garry (04:43):
She's a teenager Lost air quotes.
Lost.
Amy (04:48):
Adam thought that Clara was cheating on him.
Garry (04:51):
Yes.
Amy (04:52):
Adam is missing.
Poor.
Garry (04:55):
Adam, he just can't catch a break, can he?
Amy (04:58):
Debbie was poisoned.
Garry (04:59):
Yes.
Amy (05:00):
With the spray right?
Garry (05:02):
Yes, Was that the last, the bee honey.
Amy (05:05):
Yes, the honey Sam has asked Emily to help keep her
eyes peeled on the choir membersand just keep her ears open to
hear it.
Spy, spy, spy, listen, spy.
Well, her word was spy, but hedidn't like it so much Spy With
a wee little eye.
And Emily is running a programon her computer to search for
any mention of the name chimerayes, right, I think I leave
(05:27):
anything out no, you didn't okay, okay
I think that's about where wewere.
Yeah, all right, so we want totalk about.
So the biggest revolution inthis episode is we find out who
killed clara.
Is it clara?
Yes, clara clara and who wasattempting to kill debbie right?
So we have some revelationswhich we will talk about in a
(05:49):
little bit and that'll be at theend.
We'll give the final revelationuh, yeah, the reveal of who who
killed clara and was attemptingto kill debbie?
Yes yes, so what did we findout in this episode?
So I guess, towards thebeginning, what happens.
Garry (06:07):
Emily finds someone is broken into her store yes, well,
she sees the guy coming up, shesees the guy right, right,
right.
Amy (06:14):
She sees the guy coming out right and she chases him for a
second.
Garry (06:19):
And then the next scene she's in her store and she's
just checking it out, makingsure nothing is stolen right and
she has to reluctantly outmaking sure nothing is stolen
Right and she has to reluctantlycall the police because she
doesn't want the attention onher store, but she has to.
But you know what was cool?
What?
Amy (06:39):
After the police left, she had this little Santa Claus
sitting on the shelf.
Yes, she sure did, didn't she?
That was a camera with a littleUSB.
Well, he asked her, yeah, yeah,and Sam asked her if she had a
camera.
But go ahead, sorry.
Garry (06:47):
So she pulls out this little USB drive or not USB a
little SD card, she puts it in acomputer and she watches the
whole thing unfold, where theguy comes in, and she's
narrating, thinking that hepicked the locks.
Amy (07:03):
Right, because she doesn't know yet, but we know, we know
it's a key.
Garry (07:07):
It is the key, missing, key, missing, key that Violet
had lost.
Amy (07:11):
She lost it, but we know who found it and I even guessed
it right in the last episode.
I think, yes, that we did thereview right.
Garry (07:18):
Yes, you did.
Amy (07:19):
Yep, so.
So then Emily has the idea thatshe wants to invite Brooke to
lunch.
Garry (07:27):
Oh, my goodness.
Amy (07:28):
Brooke is very excited, right.
Brooke is like it's about timewe did lunch and Emily's like
yay, yes, Like realenthusiastically, sarcastically,
just about.
I thought that was cute.
Garry (07:41):
Well, what was so funny is they were sitting there and
Emily says you know, are thereany affairs going on in the
choir?
And she's like no, that'sridiculous, we would know.
And then she goes.
Well, why don't you just tellme about each one of them?
I don't know anything.
And that's when Brooke's eyeslight up and she goes.
(08:04):
Sue, two glasses of rosé and.
Sue shoots back a screw cap,cork or something else and she
goes.
Well, something and she goes,we'll do the cork.
Amy (08:18):
Yeah, yeah, because Brooke likes to chat.
Garry (08:21):
Yes.
Amy (08:21):
And gossip.
I mean, we all know people likethat.
At times in my life I've beenlike that Like, hey, let me give
you the dirt.
You know what I'm saying.
And Emily's got a front rowseat and is faking it.
Garry (08:32):
Yes, the whole time Brooke is talking.
Poor Emily the look on her face.
It was such a cute.
Yes, she loved.
Amy (08:45):
She loved.
Garry (08:46):
Yes.
Amy (08:47):
Adam.
Garry (08:47):
Adam Right.
Amy (08:48):
So we do find that out.
So that's one revelation thatwe can check off the list.
Right, there are one personthat we can eliminate as A
suspect Killing Clara.
Yeah, was not her husband.
Garry (09:01):
Was not her husband.
Amy (09:02):
Well, her husband thought that I'm sorry, clara was not
having an affair.
Garry (09:05):
Right.
Amy (09:06):
Yeah.
Garry (09:07):
But let's go ahead and jump off of that, because that
goes into when Emily confrontsLance Because she sees Lance and
Adam having an argument.
Amy (09:18):
Right, right.
That was in the last episodewhen she viewed the argument.
Garry (09:24):
So in this episode she confronts him at the choir
rehearsal Right Right, and she'shaving a talk with him.
Amy (09:35):
And she asks him about you know, are you having an affair
with?
Garry (09:37):
Claire.
Amy (09:37):
Well, she says there were rumors, doesn't she say there
are rumors that maybe you andClaire are a couple, and then he
goes.
Well, she's not my type.
Garry (09:41):
And then Emma was like hmm, and he goes.
Well, she's not my type.
And then Emily was like hmm,and he goes.
Well, let me put it to you thisway, she is not my type.
And come to find out Lance isgay.
Amy (09:54):
Right, right.
So we do find that out.
Garry (09:57):
His door swings a different way.
So he was not having an affair,no, and he explains to Emily
that Adam had come over becausehe suspected they were having an
affair.
Right right and that he wasbanging on the door and Lance
told him, because he wasembarrassed, that she was
teaching him how to write orread music.
Amy (10:17):
Read music.
That's right.
Garry (10:19):
That's right so the argument that she witnessed
Emilyily witnessed was adamasking for his forgiveness right
, and that's what he said.
Amy (10:27):
Adam kept asking him and what kept apologizing, because
adam felt badly that he accusedhim of something that he was not
doing right with adam's wife soit was kind of you know, it was
a good little saying and andyou and that gets rid of another
suspect.
Well, right, I mean, I don'tknow, does it get rid of Lance
(10:50):
as a suspect?
We just learn more about Adam.
And he didn't have the affairand that Clara didn't have an
affair and that Lance wasn't aperson she was having an affair
with, whereas we weren't surewhat was going on with Lance and
Adam, if Adam was having himspy on the choir.
Choir, that's what I thought atfirst because, he did prison
time, remember.
And then um emily has her, hasray, look into lance right,
(11:16):
isn't that?
Garry (11:17):
that's right, because sam tried and his uh lance's files
were were sealed.
Amy (11:24):
Because he was a minor right.
Garry (11:28):
No, I think he made a deal with the prosecutor to get
out of the mob family.
Amy (11:32):
Oh, that's right, he would do the time.
So then Emily's able to findout more about Lance, because
she got Ray Ray.
Right, because he was a suspectat first, because she saw his
tattoo and he was in prison,you're right.
So that's the part that kind oflets him.
I think, eliminates him as asuspect.
Garry (11:49):
Yes.
Amy (11:49):
Right, because For me at that point she finds out.
Well, no, then I think for hertoo, because she finds out the
real reason that he did changehis life.
He did get you know right andhe was kind of on the straight
and narrow so to speak.
Garry (12:06):
So good for him.
Amy (12:07):
Right, so we eliminate Lance.
And then Emily finds out thatthere was a concert going on at
the same time that Clara waskilled.
Garry (12:17):
Yes.
Amy (12:18):
And she watches a video of.
Brooke freezing up.
I guess she never does singright, so Brooke was supposed to
have a solo and Brooke is onstage at the same time that
Clara is hit, so it could nothave been Brooke.
Garry (12:35):
Right.
Amy (12:35):
Correct.
Okay, I'm trying to walkthrough this.
Garry (12:38):
But she also notices that Debbie's not there.
Amy (12:42):
Correct, so what was?
Garry (12:45):
Debbie doing.
Amy (12:46):
Right.
Garry (12:47):
Was she being a downer?
Amy (12:48):
Was she being a Debbie downer?
I don't know, I don't know, dadjoke.
Garry (12:53):
Sorry, I had to do it so then, she confronts Debbie.
Amy (12:57):
She confronts.
Well, she talks to her.
Is that where they talk at thediner?
Yes, can we just talk about adiner for a second?
I love diners.
I know this is such a sidebar,they're like cozy I know cozy
and I'm just like a 50 girls atheart even though I want happy
days I want all the things thatwomen have now only in the 50s,
because they didn't, but youknow.
That aside, I'm all about thepoodle skirts, the saddle shoes
(13:19):
and a diner.
Garry (13:20):
The jukebox at the table, the jukebox.
Yes, yes, yes yes, throw aquarter in there.
I don't have a share in that,and these shows have a.
Amy (13:26):
Everyone has a diner right.
Yes, that they go to.
Yes, anywho, that was just asidebar, all yes.
Or talking to her, not reallyconfronting her combatively,
right, just discussing casuallywhat went on?
Garry (13:42):
So what went on?
And so Debbie ends up tellingher what happened that night
Right, which was she gotpoisoned and she ended up Food
poisoning, food poisoning andended up in the hospital for
three hours, right, and thehospital actually confirmed that
.
So we find that out.
Amy (14:02):
So we find out that Debbie is also off of the suspect list.
Off of the suspect list Rightbecause she was in the hospital
at this time.
Garry (14:10):
And.
Amy (14:11):
She says that Vera took her to the hospital.
Garry (14:13):
Right.
Amy (14:14):
And was with her at the hospital.
So you presume that, vera.
Garry (14:17):
Was there with her, too, was there with her the whole
time right right so then let'sgo back to who broke into the
the mistletoe store themistletoe yeah, so um so emily's
in the store with violet underthe mistletoe.
Amy (14:35):
I was trying.
I was sitting here trying tothink about it, sorry under the
mistletoe I digress or does shecome in with her friend?
Garry (14:42):
she comes in she comes, she comes in with violet comes
in with her friend her friendhas the hat on right and emily
doesn't notice until the girlpulls her down.
Because emily says, oh, that'sa cool hat.
And she goes, yeah, it's a dualhat.
And she pulls it down and it'slike a mask and in Emily you can
see her in her the wheels areturning Right.
Amy (15:03):
She was like yeah.
Garry (15:04):
And then it flashes back to when she sees the person
break into her, her store andthe camera catches kind of like
a closeup.
Well then, she then tell our uhViolet's friend tells her
that's her brother's hat Right?
Amy (15:18):
She says he'd kill me or something.
And he'd kill me if he knew Iwas wearing it.
So that starts the wheels inEmily's head, and this is where
we find out a little bit moreabout Emily, emily's a BA and
what she could do.
Garry (15:31):
She's a badass, yes, oh, my goodness.
So she pays a visit to Pete.
Amy (15:36):
She pays a visit.
Garry (15:39):
She doesn goodness, so she pays a visit, she pays a
visit.
Amy (15:40):
She doesn't tell the police because she says she doesn't
want.
Garry (15:43):
She doesn't want the police visiting him, yep, but
she wants to put him back on thestraight and narrow right yes,
right, so what happens?
Amy (15:49):
so she she waits for him in his car oh my goodness and uses
the seat belt to kind of pullhim back, not really strangle
him, but scares, the bejeebers,and then she you know, like
scared straight.
Remember those scared straightprograms.
They would take kids into jailsand stuff yeah I mean, I never
had to do that because I was asaint.
Garry (16:09):
But me too, not really but but yeah.
Amy (16:12):
So it reminded me of, like, scared straight where she's.
Like you will never speak ofthis and you will go to and you
will apologize.
Oh, you will apologize yeah,yeah, and return the key and
she's like you will never speakof this and you will go to and
you will apologize.
Garry (16:20):
Oh, you will apologize, yeah, yeah, and return the key
and she's like this littlepetite woman, Like how do you?
Yeah, yeah, do not make thatwoman mad.
No, no, no.
Amy (16:29):
So she literally nearly scares him to death and scares
him straight.
And what does he do?
He goes and Returns straight.
Garry (16:37):
And what does he do?
Amy (16:37):
He goes and returns.
He doesn't apologize, but hegives the key back to Violet.
Garry (16:41):
He apologizes in that he didn't.
He's sorry he didn't return thekey sooner.
Amy (16:45):
Correct.
Well, that's true, that's true.
He does say I'm sorry.
Yeah, and it was funny becauseViolet was like huh.
She's kind of like, okay, whatwas that?
Garry (16:53):
And Emily is like I don't know.
Amy (16:56):
Yeah.
Garry (16:57):
Yeah, so that kind of eliminates that part of the
story, because you think, well,maybe this has something to do
with you know what's going onwith the murder.
Amy (17:05):
Right, right.
Garry (17:06):
No, it's not so.
Pete's off the list, right.
Amy (17:09):
Right, so Pete Well yeah he's off.
I never thought he killed.
Garry (17:12):
Claire, I never did either, but you didn't know.
It was him who broke into thestore.
Amy (17:19):
Oh, right, right, Because at first Emily thinks somebody's
found her where she is, becauseshe's obviously hiding from
something.
And she thinks initially thatthe break-in was somebody that
found her.
So then Sam calls Emily to showher that he found what he found
at Adams.
Yes, what was it?
(17:39):
A murder board.
Garry (17:43):
We love a murder board.
Amy (17:44):
We love a good murder board .
Oh my gosh, Hunt a Killer.
I know we've mentioned thatbefore, but we love the game
Hunt a Killer.
We put pictures up and all theevidence that's in the game and
the yarn and all that it isreally fun.
So, yes, so we get excitedevery time we see a murder board
(18:05):
.
Garry (18:05):
And on that board there were some junkyards.
Amy (18:09):
There was a picture of.
Garry (18:10):
I think Debbie and some other things.
So they're trying to piecetogether what Adam was doing and
it looked like he was havinghis own investigation on who
killed his wife, because who?
Amy (18:22):
adam?
Oh yes, he was trying to lookinto it.
Right, right, right.
And then emily.
We didn't mention before um,before she confronts pete, she's
like it?
Maybe it's time to stretch afew old muscles yes, so then you
kind of get an indication thatshe used to do things like that
before she lived there.
Garry (18:43):
Yeah, before she showed it.
Amy (18:44):
Right Fletcher's Grove.
Before she moved to Fletcher'sGrove.
Garry (18:47):
Right.
Amy (18:48):
All right.
Garry (18:49):
So where are we in the so there was a conversation, I
think it was, with Sue who toldEmily about Clara having the RV
as a little classroom.
Was that Sue?
I think that was Sue.
Amy (19:03):
Maybe, oh maybe.
Garry (19:04):
Yeah.
Maybe, and then that's whatsends.
Emily back out to Sam andClara's house because she wanted
to get a look at this.
Amy (19:18):
Well, she thought maybe Adam was living in that little
trailer.
She went there to look thetrailer's on the property.
Garry (19:25):
Right, right right.
Amy (19:27):
And then that's where she discovers Debbie's car Right.
It's under a tarp so she has tolift the tarp up Because Debbie
had donated the car we foundout in the last episode, Right
Even though Emily wasn't sure ifshe believed her or not.
Because she couldn't rememberwhat place she donated it to, or
(19:47):
to take it away or whatever.
So she opens the trunk andthere in the trunk is Adam Adam.
Who is not living, he's dead, heis also dead.
So now we have the first murderwe've seen, right.
Yes, the second murder in thechoir, yes.
(20:09):
So now the plot thickens oh myGod does it thicken.
And Emily kind of cuts her handa little bit on the car, and ew
, because it's probably rustyand whatnot.
Yeah, when she was opening thetrunk, when she was opening the
trunk Right right, right, so shehas to call Sam.
Garry (20:24):
Yes.
Amy (20:25):
She's like you're going to be mad at me.
Garry (20:26):
But, but I had a hunch and I went out there and blah.
Amy (20:31):
And what does he say?
Did you find Adam?
And she's like let's just sayyeah, no.
Garry (20:36):
He said did you find Adam ?
Or don't confront him.
Don't confront him, you know,wait till we get there, and
she's like I don't think that'sgoing to be a problem.
Amy (20:43):
Yeah, because Adam's not going anywhere.
Garry (20:46):
Adam be dead.
Adam's not going anywhere.
That was funny.
Yeah, yeah, so, that was yeah.
So.
So then what happens Then?
Where do we go?
So then what happens Then?
Amy (20:57):
where do we go she?
Garry (21:00):
So she calls, adam Calls, and she's talking to Adam.
Amy (21:05):
Adam.
She can't call Adam.
She can't call Adam.
Garry (21:07):
Adam's dead God can you put Adam on the phone real quick
?
No, when she calls Sam, samshows up and they're sitting
there talking and she I guessthe next scene she's at the
store again, cause Violet waslike oh, I thought you were only
(21:27):
going to be gone a couple ofminutes, you were gone for three
hours or something.
And she had cut her hand Rightand she takes her gloves off.
And Violet was like ooh, what'sgoing on?
Amy (21:33):
You know you look like you're bleeding bad and I think
Does Violet say that yeah, oh, Idon't yeah, oh, I think so,
okay, yeah, because she'stalking to violet.
Garry (21:41):
I'm not sure exactly what she said she gets out a
band-aid right, she gets out aband-aid and she puts it on.
And when is it that sherealizes what happened?
Amy (21:51):
I think it might be, as she's putting the band-aid on
right she remembers that verahad a-Aid in the same exact spot
, which means that Vera was atAdam's house and did something
with the trunk.
Garry (22:06):
Yes, the junk in the trunk.
Amy (22:08):
The junk in the trunk.
Yes, so then she gets Sam.
Garry (22:13):
Yes.
Amy (22:14):
And they go to the choir practice.
Garry (22:15):
Right.
Amy (22:16):
And Sam has Vera take the.
Band-aid off.
Garry (22:21):
Yes to see, and they have identical cuts emily, because
emily takes hers off and rightthere, and then sam takes vera
to the police station and I likeit.
Amy (22:31):
And he has emily.
He has vera that he'squestioning and he has emily
behind the glass and she knockson it and he he's like.
I invited you here as acourtesy, not an interactive
experience.
Garry (22:41):
That was funny.
That was funny, but don't youlove how she kind of manipulates
Sam into doing what she needshim to do?
Amy (22:48):
Yeah, a little bit, but she's starting to like him a
little bit more.
But now she sort of has hispermission to look into stuff
and he knows she's good andinquisitive, but he doesn't
really know her?
Garry (22:59):
yeah, because she's like play on her.
Play on her what?
Um, not emotions, but play onher.
Uh, god, what is the word I'mlooking for?
Amy (23:08):
I don't know to get her to talk.
Garry (23:09):
Well, anyways, he gets her to talk and to explain
exactly what happened.
What do you mean like themurder?
Amy (23:18):
You're talking about Vera.
Yeah, okay, I think we'retalking about Emily.
Garry (23:21):
No, I'm confused.
I lost you for a minute.
Amy (23:23):
We were on Emily.
Garry (23:25):
Well, Emily was telling Sam to I thought you were
talking about-.
Amy (23:28):
So Sam gets Vera to confess to the murder.
Garry (23:31):
Yes, that you totally-.
I don't know where that went.
That's why we're both doingthis podcast.
Amy (23:35):
I don't know where that went.
Garry (23:36):
Because you, you keep me on track, I keep you on track
and you know we have VoluntilesDay and stuff like that.
Amy (23:43):
Voluntiles.
I know You've got to bring thatup.
You've got to bring that up?
Yes, I know, I don't even knowwhat.
Garry (23:50):
I'm saying anymore.
Amy (23:52):
All right, so Vera is the murderer of both Clara and.
Adam.
The couple didn't survive.
Garry (24:01):
But what's funny is she said Adam was an accident, she
wasn't going to kill him.
Amy (24:05):
She wasn't going to kill him.
He just earned it, yeah.
Garry (24:08):
He deserved it.
Amy (24:09):
She had drugged him, clara was going to a different choir
and she wasn't having any ofthat.
Garry (24:13):
Nope Right, that was betrayal right there.
Amy (24:16):
So Clara deserved it, but Adam whoopsies, you know so, but
Adam whoopsies, you know.
Garry (24:20):
So then, going back to the murder board Murder board
Right, because Sam also found adrawing, electrical drawing
right that had a big oldtriangle in the middle Right and
Emily had asked well, what is atriangle?
And Sam didn't know, but hesaid the voltage on it was way
too high.
Amy (24:40):
That's right, that's right, yes, right.
So then Emily realizes she hasto be with the choir who's at
the lighting of the Christmastree in the town, in the town
center, yeah, and as she'swalking up.
Garry (24:52):
Yeah, light bulb goes off .
She realizes almost literallyright what the triangle is.
Amy (24:56):
That the triangle is actually.
Garry (24:59):
The tree, the tree Christmas tree.
Amy (25:00):
Right is actually the tree, the tree right.
And then she puts two and twotogether.
That adam debbie was trying.
Garry (25:08):
No well, adam was had rigged the tree, or not the tree
, but the the microphone toshock debbie.
Amy (25:15):
You know, kill debbie right when they lit the tree right,
and is it at that moment thatshe realizes adam was trying?
Was the one who was trying tokill Debbie or did they already
know that.
Garry (25:25):
They didn't know that at that point.
Amy (25:26):
It's just like she put the two and two together.
Right Just trying to Right,right, right.
So then she realizes that it'sthe microphone that's the issue.
Garry (25:34):
And it's not Debbie Right , because Debbie she couldn't
sing, she she couldn't sing.
She couldn't show up.
Well, they kicked her out ofthe choir.
Amy (25:40):
Yeah.
Yeah, she was out of the choirand it was going to be Brooke.
Garry (25:43):
Right.
Amy (25:43):
Right, so Brooke was going to be the one singing, and then
Emily tells Sam that she knowswhat it is.
What it is, and then she has togo and she runs up on the stage
.
Garry (25:56):
She runs up on the stage, knocks Brooke down just in time
before she gets shocked andthen the microphone catches on
fire.
Right, right.
Amy (26:09):
And the sad thing is, is Brooke had such a great solo I
know she finally got a solo andshe can sing.
Garry (26:14):
What happened so?
Amy (26:15):
Emily saves Brooke.
Garry (26:17):
Yes.
Amy (26:17):
And I think maybe it's going to bring Brooke and Emily
closer.
Brooke will probably want toget closer to Emily now and
Emily won't have a choice afterthat moment, which is hilarious,
right.
So this episode pretty much.
There were a couple of thingsdifferent going on, right.
We find out who was doing themurders?
Yes, or who did the murders,I'm sorry, and separately, who
(26:41):
was poisoning Debbie?
Yeah, right, so we had thatgoing on, right?
So after the chaos of the treelighting ceremony, sam walks
Emily home, right Right To herstore, and they have this moment
where, you know, he kind ofadmits that he has feelings for
her and she's like, oh, sorry,sorry, and he gets put in the
(27:03):
friend zone for like a secondright and you feel badly for him
.
He's like, oh, it's okay.
And then, and then she doesstart to open up about her past,
right, and because he starts towalk away and I thought that
was a really cool scene, youknow, because he starts to walk
away and she and she, you know,I think she wants to get close
to him, but she is scared orbecause of her past doesn't want
(27:25):
to, for whatever reason, whichwe'll find out eventually.
She's worried about gettingclose to him but doesn't want
him to be hurt.
So she starts to express whyshe has a christmas store
because he had asked her that atone point.
Right, not at that point, but,um, he had asked her why, why
christmas?
And then she said her parentswere killed on new year's eve
(27:47):
and the last, the happiest theyever were was that christmas
before right, and she's beenchasing that ever since they
were killed.
Garry (27:54):
She thinks she's found it and she's in the town right,
right, so yeah there was a lotupstairs and we're goes upstairs
and we're not done.
Not done yet.
Amy (28:04):
Right, right.
Then we have one final scene.
Garry (28:06):
And the final scene is the laptop, the laptop.
And I think Emily's past gets alittle bit closer, because on
the laptop Catches up to her andit always happens to hackers in
TV series.
They think they're all gettinginto it and everything.
And all of a sudden somebodytakes over the machine.
And what comes up on the screen?
(28:28):
I know you're there and I willfind you.
How ominous is that?
Amy (28:35):
That's like Taken right.
That's like yes, I will findyou and I will kill you.
Isn't that untaken?
That is scary it also remindsme of war games.
Yeah, do you want to play agame?
Garry (28:48):
I know we're dating ourselves there.
Yeah, that was.
Amy (28:51):
AI back then.
Yeah, it was really reallycrazy.
Garry (28:53):
I know.
Amy (28:55):
But yeah, so she gets this ominous message, she immediately
closes her computer, right.
Garry (28:58):
Yeah.
Amy (28:59):
And she realizes that would freak me out.
Garry (29:01):
It would freak me out If I was running.
Amy (29:03):
I don't know if I could live like that, always looking
over my shoulder.
You think you're in a smalltown, but are you?
And in today's day and age ofsocial media and videos and
pictures and all that stuff?
Garry (29:14):
on the internet.
One wrong picture and you'reout there.
It would be so hard to hide.
Yeah, it would be.
Amy (29:27):
It'd be really hard to hide , I would think.
Not that I'm promoting hiding,but you know so suggesting
people go and hide.
So that was all the revelations, right?
Yeah?
Garry (29:30):
I think, I think we walked through that episode and
that wraps up peril of the bells.
Right, yeah, but did you haveany tinsel top moments?
Amy (29:35):
uh, it would be the end like we talked about.
Yeah, like we just talked about.
I thought that was a reallygood scene.
I thought it showed that shehas a past and she's just
itching to get close to someoneand she really, you know, does
like him and there's potential,but she can't Right and she
doesn't want to hurt him.
So I thought all of thatwrapped up in that scene, that
(29:56):
would be my tinsel topped moment.
How about you?
Garry (30:00):
I still like the scene with Brooke and and emily in the
diner.
Amy (30:02):
Yes, it was so cute, and emily was so good too, because
she's like yay let's get closer.
You know, she really doesn'twant to.
And brooke's like okay, youknow, and just as giddy to
gossip and everything.
Yeah, that scene, that's yourtinsel top moment.
Yeah, that was mine.
All right, cool.
Well, how many ornaments wouldyou hang out of five?
Garry (30:24):
I'm going to give this one a strong four.
Same.
I really enjoyed it, same, andI can't wait for the next two.
Amy (30:32):
Four ornaments for me too, and I will be curious what the
next mystery is.
I know I have no idea, but I'mreally digging the two episode.
Garry (30:40):
Yes.
Amy (30:40):
Like a start and a finish, you know.
I mean I guess like Murder.
She Wrote used to wrap it up inone episode but this is kind of
cool, yeah, I like the twoepisode you know it's like a
Hallmark two-hour movie split upyou know.
Well, I guess.
Yeah, I mean I guess Because inthe movies they have the
beginning, middle and end youare correct.
You are correct.
Garry (31:00):
So is that a wrap?
Amy (31:01):
That is a wrap.
Garry (31:02):
Alright, Thanks for listening.
Be sure to follow the podcastwherever you listen so you don't
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Don't miss one, Nope.
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Amy (31:18):
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You can also email us.
Garry (31:22):
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We would really reallyappreciate it.
You can also email us yes Atpour the wine, it's rom-com time
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Yeah, shoot us an email, let us know what you're thinking
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Talk to us on the socials.
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Yeah, and you know what.
We'll follow you.
Garry (31:38):
And you know what?
We'll follow you.
We'll follow you back.
We'll follow you back 100%.
Amy (31:42):
Be sure to join us next Tuesday when we review episode
number five Death of a Humbug,part one.
You can catch the entire seasonof Mistletoe Murders on
Hallmark Plus right now.
So no matter what time of yearit is, go check it out and then
come on back for our weeklyreviews.
Garry (32:00):
Yes.
Amy (32:01):
Also tune in on Wednesdays for our drops of Hallmark movie
reviews.
Until then, fill up yourglasses and push play.
Thanks for listening, cheers.
Welcome to Pour the Wine.
It's rom-com time where we'llsip some wine and review all
things rom-com on the Hallmarkchannel.
I'm Amy.
Garry (00:15):
And I'm Gary and I'm about to pour the wine.
Amy (00:18):
Pour the wine we're pouring a cab Sav.
Garry (00:20):
As usual.
Amy (00:21):
Welcome back to Tinsel Tuesdays.
Yes, where we review all thingsChristmas.
Today we're reviewing episodenumber four of Mistletoe Murders
, peril of the Bells, part 2.
It originally aired on November21st 2024 on Hallmark Plus and
we did not watch it then, but weare watching it now.
Garry (00:41):
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would click that follow buttonon your favorite podcast
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Amy (00:48):
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You don't want to miss anepisode, do you?
Oh boy, You're singing.
No, you sure don't.
Garry (00:54):
No, if you listen on Apple or Spotify, you can also
leave us a review.
Amy (01:00):
A review and hopefully, it's a positive.
Oh my gosh.
Garry (01:04):
Are we going to be singing?
Amy (01:06):
all night long.
Garry (01:07):
Is this becoming a musical podcast?
I think so.
Maybe you know what we shoulddo one what?
Amy (01:11):
No, absolutely not.
That's a horrible idea.
Garry (01:14):
No, it would be fun, even though I can't sing.
Amy (01:16):
I can't sing.
Garry (01:17):
So that's what would make it fun?
Amy (01:19):
No, that would to be fun for me.
Garry (01:21):
Well, anyways, you can also find us on social media
Facebook, instagram, blue Sky Xand, of course, threads.
Amy (01:29):
Threads yes, head on over to the socials and let us know
your thoughts about MistletoeMurders.
If you watched it the first goaround, or maybe you're watching
it now.
We have Christmas in Julycoming up.
Maybe you want to get in thefestive murderous holiday spirit
, murderous Spirit.
Have a sip of wine dear.
Garry (01:49):
Have a sip.
Have a sip of wine, One sip.
Amy (01:51):
You can also email us and let us know your thoughts at
pourthewineisromcomtime atgmailcom.
Garry (01:58):
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Amy (01:59):
Shoot us an email and maybe we'll read it on the pod.
Garry (02:03):
Yes.
Amy (02:04):
Maybe We've done it once.
Garry (02:07):
We've done it before, let's do it again.
Amy (02:08):
Well, we are not going to be adding any actors to this
episode.
Okay, we covered them in partone all right.
Well, you know, and if you wantto hear the who the core actors
are, who are in all of theepisodes.
We did that during our reviewof the first episode.
Garry (02:30):
The first episode.
Yes, oh, you're putting me onthe spot.
Amy (02:32):
I'm going to put you on the spot.
Garry (02:33):
Okay, peril of the Bells, part one.
Amy (02:37):
No, not this one.
Garry (02:38):
The very first episode of Mistletoe Brothers A poison in
a pear tree.
A poison in a pear tree, partone.
Part one.
Amy (02:44):
Part one.
That was a trick question.
Garry (02:48):
It was, and I totally got tricked.
Amy (02:51):
All right, all right.
Garry (02:52):
Is it trivia time?
Amy (02:54):
Yes, I think so.
Garry (02:55):
Okay, here we go.
If you like to hear it, here wego.
Which holiday is second mostpopular for Hallmark movies
after Christmas, halloween,after Christmas Halloween.
After Christmas oh, after.
Amy (03:08):
Okay, sorry, I'm just Valentine's Day.
Garry (03:14):
Valentine's.
You heard it right hereValentine's.
Amy (03:31):
Usually it's these with the word mix-ups, but you today are
on fire I love it really,really.
Valentine's day duh gosh, giveme some wine I'm just gonna sit.
Garry (03:37):
You need to take a sip.
Yes, yes, yes, and it's time todrop the synopsis too, and
you're all like Valentine?
Amy (03:47):
Well, why don't you drop the synopsis?
Garry (03:49):
because I need a sip of wine.
Okay, drop the synopsis.
Emily and Sam work together tofind the choir killer period the
killer, the killer.
That's it.
That's the synopsis.
That's it.
Amy (04:04):
Very short and sweet, but it sums it up.
Garry (04:06):
They do find it in this episode.
That's what I need, theselittle one sentences.
Amy (04:10):
I know You're fine, you're fine.
Garry (04:12):
Well, we'll probably give away some spoilers, so if you
have not seen this yet, pleasepress pause.
Go watch the series, yes, andthen come back, listen to the
podcast and drop us an email.
Let us know how we did.
Amy (04:27):
All right, so let's talk about what happened on the
previous episode, episode numberthree.
Okay, Right where we left off.
Garry (04:35):
Yes.
Amy (04:37):
Vi, her store key disappears, yes, and she's
freaking out a little bit.
We don't know where it is.
Garry (04:43):
She's a teenager Lost air quotes.
Lost.
Amy (04:48):
Adam thought that Clara was cheating on him.
Garry (04:51):
Yes.
Amy (04:52):
Adam is missing.
Poor.
Garry (04:55):
Adam, he just can't catch a break, can he?
Amy (04:58):
Debbie was poisoned.
Garry (04:59):
Yes.
Amy (05:00):
With the spray right?
Garry (05:02):
Yes, Was that the last, the bee honey.
Amy (05:05):
Yes, the honey Sam has asked Emily to help keep her
eyes peeled on the choir membersand just keep her ears open to
hear it.
Spy, spy, spy, listen, spy.
Well, her word was spy, but hedidn't like it so much Spy With
a wee little eye.
And Emily is running a programon her computer to search for
any mention of the name chimerayes, right, I think I leave
(05:27):
anything out no, you didn't okay, okay
I think that's about where wewere.
Yeah, all right, so we want totalk about.
So the biggest revolution inthis episode is we find out who
killed clara.
Is it clara?
Yes, clara clara and who wasattempting to kill debbie right?
So we have some revelationswhich we will talk about in a
(05:49):
little bit and that'll be at theend.
We'll give the final revelationuh, yeah, the reveal of who who
killed clara and was attemptingto kill debbie?
Yes yes, so what did we findout in this episode?
So I guess, towards thebeginning, what happens.
Garry (06:07):
Emily finds someone is broken into her store yes, well,
she sees the guy coming up, shesees the guy right, right,
right.
Amy (06:14):
She sees the guy coming out right and she chases him for a
second.
Garry (06:19):
And then the next scene she's in her store and she's
just checking it out, makingsure nothing is stolen right and
she has to reluctantly outmaking sure nothing is stolen
Right and she has to reluctantlycall the police because she
doesn't want the attention onher store, but she has to.
But you know what was cool?
What?
Amy (06:39):
After the police left, she had this little Santa Claus
sitting on the shelf.
Yes, she sure did, didn't she?
That was a camera with a littleUSB.
Well, he asked her, yeah, yeah,and Sam asked her if she had a
camera.
But go ahead, sorry.
Garry (06:47):
So she pulls out this little USB drive or not USB a
little SD card, she puts it in acomputer and she watches the
whole thing unfold, where theguy comes in, and she's
narrating, thinking that hepicked the locks.
Amy (07:03):
Right, because she doesn't know yet, but we know, we know
it's a key.
Garry (07:07):
It is the key, missing, key, missing, key that Violet
had lost.
Amy (07:11):
She lost it, but we know who found it and I even guessed
it right in the last episode.
I think, yes, that we did thereview right.
Garry (07:18):
Yes, you did.
Amy (07:19):
Yep, so.
So then Emily has the idea thatshe wants to invite Brooke to
lunch.
Garry (07:27):
Oh, my goodness.
Amy (07:28):
Brooke is very excited, right.
Brooke is like it's about timewe did lunch and Emily's like
yay, yes, Like realenthusiastically, sarcastically,
just about.
I thought that was cute.
Garry (07:41):
Well, what was so funny is they were sitting there and
Emily says you know, are thereany affairs going on in the
choir?
And she's like no, that'sridiculous, we would know.
And then she goes.
Well, why don't you just tellme about each one of them?
I don't know anything.
And that's when Brooke's eyeslight up and she goes.
(08:04):
Sue, two glasses of rosé and.
Sue shoots back a screw cap,cork or something else and she
goes.
Well, something and she goes,we'll do the cork.
Amy (08:18):
Yeah, yeah, because Brooke likes to chat.
Garry (08:21):
Yes.
Amy (08:21):
And gossip.
I mean, we all know people likethat.
At times in my life I've beenlike that Like, hey, let me give
you the dirt.
You know what I'm saying.
And Emily's got a front rowseat and is faking it.
Garry (08:32):
Yes, the whole time Brooke is talking.
Poor Emily the look on her face.
It was such a cute.
Yes, she loved.
Amy (08:45):
She loved.
Garry (08:46):
Yes.
Amy (08:47):
Adam.
Garry (08:47):
Adam Right.
Amy (08:48):
So we do find that out.
So that's one revelation thatwe can check off the list.
Right, there are one personthat we can eliminate as A
suspect Killing Clara.
Yeah, was not her husband.
Garry (09:01):
Was not her husband.
Amy (09:02):
Well, her husband thought that I'm sorry, clara was not
having an affair.
Garry (09:05):
Right.
Amy (09:06):
Yeah.
Garry (09:07):
But let's go ahead and jump off of that, because that
goes into when Emily confrontsLance Because she sees Lance and
Adam having an argument.
Amy (09:18):
Right, right.
That was in the last episodewhen she viewed the argument.
Garry (09:24):
So in this episode she confronts him at the choir
rehearsal Right Right, and she'shaving a talk with him.
Amy (09:35):
And she asks him about you know, are you having an affair
with?
Garry (09:37):
Claire.
Amy (09:37):
Well, she says there were rumors, doesn't she say there
are rumors that maybe you andClaire are a couple, and then he
goes.
Well, she's not my type.
Garry (09:41):
And then Emma was like hmm, and he goes.
Well, she's not my type.
And then Emily was like hmm,and he goes.
Well, let me put it to you thisway, she is not my type.
And come to find out Lance isgay.
Amy (09:54):
Right, right.
So we do find that out.
Garry (09:57):
His door swings a different way.
So he was not having an affair,no, and he explains to Emily
that Adam had come over becausehe suspected they were having an
affair.
Right right and that he wasbanging on the door and Lance
told him, because he wasembarrassed, that she was
teaching him how to write orread music.
Amy (10:17):
Read music.
That's right.
Garry (10:19):
That's right so the argument that she witnessed
Emilyily witnessed was adamasking for his forgiveness right
, and that's what he said.
Amy (10:27):
Adam kept asking him and what kept apologizing, because
adam felt badly that he accusedhim of something that he was not
doing right with adam's wife soit was kind of you know, it was
a good little saying and andyou and that gets rid of another
suspect.
Well, right, I mean, I don'tknow, does it get rid of Lance
(10:50):
as a suspect?
We just learn more about Adam.
And he didn't have the affairand that Clara didn't have an
affair and that Lance wasn't aperson she was having an affair
with, whereas we weren't surewhat was going on with Lance and
Adam, if Adam was having himspy on the choir.
Choir, that's what I thought atfirst because, he did prison
time, remember.
And then um emily has her, hasray, look into lance right,
(11:16):
isn't that?
Garry (11:17):
that's right, because sam tried and his uh lance's files
were were sealed.
Amy (11:24):
Because he was a minor right.
Garry (11:28):
No, I think he made a deal with the prosecutor to get
out of the mob family.
Amy (11:32):
Oh, that's right, he would do the time.
So then Emily's able to findout more about Lance, because
she got Ray Ray.
Right, because he was a suspectat first, because she saw his
tattoo and he was in prison,you're right.
So that's the part that kind oflets him.
I think, eliminates him as asuspect.
Garry (11:49):
Yes.
Amy (11:49):
Right, because For me at that point she finds out.
Well, no, then I think for hertoo, because she finds out the
real reason that he did changehis life.
He did get you know right andhe was kind of on the straight
and narrow so to speak.
Garry (12:06):
So good for him.
Amy (12:07):
Right, so we eliminate Lance.
And then Emily finds out thatthere was a concert going on at
the same time that Clara waskilled.
Garry (12:17):
Yes.
Amy (12:18):
And she watches a video of.
Brooke freezing up.
I guess she never does singright, so Brooke was supposed to
have a solo and Brooke is onstage at the same time that
Clara is hit, so it could nothave been Brooke.
Garry (12:35):
Right.
Amy (12:35):
Correct.
Okay, I'm trying to walkthrough this.
Garry (12:38):
But she also notices that Debbie's not there.
Amy (12:42):
Correct, so what was?
Garry (12:45):
Debbie doing.
Amy (12:46):
Right.
Garry (12:47):
Was she being a downer?
Amy (12:48):
Was she being a Debbie downer?
I don't know, I don't know, dadjoke.
Garry (12:53):
Sorry, I had to do it so then, she confronts Debbie.
Amy (12:57):
She confronts.
Well, she talks to her.
Is that where they talk at thediner?
Yes, can we just talk about adiner for a second?
I love diners.
I know this is such a sidebar,they're like cozy I know cozy
and I'm just like a 50 girls atheart even though I want happy
days I want all the things thatwomen have now only in the 50s,
because they didn't, but youknow.
That aside, I'm all about thepoodle skirts, the saddle shoes
(13:19):
and a diner.
Garry (13:20):
The jukebox at the table, the jukebox.
Yes, yes, yes yes, throw aquarter in there.
I don't have a share in that,and these shows have a.
Amy (13:26):
Everyone has a diner right.
Yes, that they go to.
Yes, anywho, that was just asidebar, all yes.
Or talking to her, not reallyconfronting her combatively,
right, just discussing casuallywhat went on?
Garry (13:42):
So what went on?
And so Debbie ends up tellingher what happened that night
Right, which was she gotpoisoned and she ended up Food
poisoning, food poisoning andended up in the hospital for
three hours, right, and thehospital actually confirmed that
.
So we find that out.
Amy (14:02):
So we find out that Debbie is also off of the suspect list.
Off of the suspect list Rightbecause she was in the hospital
at this time.
Garry (14:10):
And.
Amy (14:11):
She says that Vera took her to the hospital.
Garry (14:13):
Right.
Amy (14:14):
And was with her at the hospital.
So you presume that, vera.
Garry (14:17):
Was there with her, too, was there with her the whole
time right right so then let'sgo back to who broke into the
the mistletoe store themistletoe yeah, so um so emily's
in the store with violet underthe mistletoe.
Amy (14:35):
I was trying.
I was sitting here trying tothink about it, sorry under the
mistletoe I digress or does shecome in with her friend?
Garry (14:42):
she comes in she comes, she comes in with violet comes
in with her friend her friendhas the hat on right and emily
doesn't notice until the girlpulls her down.
Because emily says, oh, that'sa cool hat.
And she goes, yeah, it's a dualhat.
And she pulls it down and it'slike a mask and in Emily you can
see her in her the wheels areturning Right.
Amy (15:03):
She was like yeah.
Garry (15:04):
And then it flashes back to when she sees the person
break into her, her store andthe camera catches kind of like
a closeup.
Well then, she then tell our uhViolet's friend tells her
that's her brother's hat Right?
Amy (15:18):
She says he'd kill me or something.
And he'd kill me if he knew Iwas wearing it.
So that starts the wheels inEmily's head, and this is where
we find out a little bit moreabout Emily, emily's a BA and
what she could do.
Garry (15:31):
She's a badass, yes, oh, my goodness.
So she pays a visit to Pete.
Amy (15:36):
She pays a visit.
Garry (15:39):
She doesn goodness, so she pays a visit, she pays a
visit.
Amy (15:40):
She doesn't tell the police because she says she doesn't
want.
Garry (15:43):
She doesn't want the police visiting him, yep, but
she wants to put him back on thestraight and narrow right yes,
right, so what happens?
Amy (15:49):
so she she waits for him in his car oh my goodness and uses
the seat belt to kind of pullhim back, not really strangle
him, but scares, the bejeebers,and then she you know, like
scared straight.
Remember those scared straightprograms.
They would take kids into jailsand stuff yeah I mean, I never
had to do that because I was asaint.
Garry (16:09):
But me too, not really but but yeah.
Amy (16:12):
So it reminded me of, like, scared straight where she's.
Like you will never speak ofthis and you will go to and you
will apologize.
Oh, you will apologize yeah,yeah, and return the key and
she's like you will never speakof this and you will go to and
you will apologize.
Garry (16:20):
Oh, you will apologize, yeah, yeah, and return the key
and she's like this littlepetite woman, Like how do you?
Yeah, yeah, do not make thatwoman mad.
No, no, no.
Amy (16:29):
So she literally nearly scares him to death and scares
him straight.
And what does he do?
He goes and Returns straight.
Garry (16:37):
And what does he do?
Amy (16:37):
He goes and returns.
He doesn't apologize, but hegives the key back to Violet.
Garry (16:41):
He apologizes in that he didn't.
He's sorry he didn't return thekey sooner.
Amy (16:45):
Correct.
Well, that's true, that's true.
He does say I'm sorry.
Yeah, and it was funny becauseViolet was like huh.
She's kind of like, okay, whatwas that?
Garry (16:53):
And Emily is like I don't know.
Amy (16:56):
Yeah.
Garry (16:57):
Yeah, so that kind of eliminates that part of the
story, because you think, well,maybe this has something to do
with you know what's going onwith the murder.
Amy (17:05):
Right, right.
Garry (17:06):
No, it's not so.
Pete's off the list, right.
Amy (17:09):
Right, so Pete Well yeah he's off.
I never thought he killed.
Garry (17:12):
Claire, I never did either, but you didn't know.
It was him who broke into thestore.
Amy (17:19):
Oh, right, right, Because at first Emily thinks somebody's
found her where she is, becauseshe's obviously hiding from
something.
And she thinks initially thatthe break-in was somebody that
found her.
So then Sam calls Emily to showher that he found what he found
at Adams.
Yes, what was it?
(17:39):
A murder board.
Garry (17:43):
We love a murder board.
Amy (17:44):
We love a good murder board .
Oh my gosh, Hunt a Killer.
I know we've mentioned thatbefore, but we love the game
Hunt a Killer.
We put pictures up and all theevidence that's in the game and
the yarn and all that it isreally fun.
So, yes, so we get excitedevery time we see a murder board
(18:05):
.
Garry (18:05):
And on that board there were some junkyards.
Amy (18:09):
There was a picture of.
Garry (18:10):
I think Debbie and some other things.
So they're trying to piecetogether what Adam was doing and
it looked like he was havinghis own investigation on who
killed his wife, because who?
Amy (18:22):
adam?
Oh yes, he was trying to lookinto it.
Right, right, right.
And then emily.
We didn't mention before um,before she confronts pete, she's
like it?
Maybe it's time to stretch afew old muscles yes, so then you
kind of get an indication thatshe used to do things like that
before she lived there.
Garry (18:43):
Yeah, before she showed it.
Amy (18:44):
Right Fletcher's Grove.
Before she moved to Fletcher'sGrove.
Garry (18:47):
Right.
Amy (18:48):
All right.
Garry (18:49):
So where are we in the so there was a conversation, I
think it was, with Sue who toldEmily about Clara having the RV
as a little classroom.
Was that Sue?
I think that was Sue.
Amy (19:03):
Maybe, oh maybe.
Garry (19:04):
Yeah.
Maybe, and then that's whatsends.
Emily back out to Sam andClara's house because she wanted
to get a look at this.
Amy (19:18):
Well, she thought maybe Adam was living in that little
trailer.
She went there to look thetrailer's on the property.
Garry (19:25):
Right, right right.
Amy (19:27):
And then that's where she discovers Debbie's car Right.
It's under a tarp so she has tolift the tarp up Because Debbie
had donated the car we foundout in the last episode, Right
Even though Emily wasn't sure ifshe believed her or not.
Because she couldn't rememberwhat place she donated it to, or
(19:47):
to take it away or whatever.
So she opens the trunk andthere in the trunk is Adam Adam.
Who is not living, he's dead, heis also dead.
So now we have the first murderwe've seen, right.
Yes, the second murder in thechoir, yes.
(20:09):
So now the plot thickens oh myGod does it thicken.
And Emily kind of cuts her handa little bit on the car, and ew
, because it's probably rustyand whatnot.
Yeah, when she was opening thetrunk, when she was opening the
trunk Right right, right, so shehas to call Sam.
Garry (20:24):
Yes.
Amy (20:25):
She's like you're going to be mad at me.
Garry (20:26):
But, but I had a hunch and I went out there and blah.
Amy (20:31):
And what does he say?
Did you find Adam?
And she's like let's just sayyeah, no.
Garry (20:36):
He said did you find Adam ?
Or don't confront him.
Don't confront him, you know,wait till we get there, and
she's like I don't think that'sgoing to be a problem.
Amy (20:43):
Yeah, because Adam's not going anywhere.
Garry (20:46):
Adam be dead.
Adam's not going anywhere.
That was funny.
Yeah, yeah, so, that was yeah.
So.
So then what happens Then?
Where do we go?
So then what happens Then?
Amy (20:57):
where do we go she?
Garry (21:00):
So she calls, adam Calls, and she's talking to Adam.
Amy (21:05):
Adam.
She can't call Adam.
She can't call Adam.
Garry (21:07):
Adam's dead God can you put Adam on the phone real quick
?
No, when she calls Sam, samshows up and they're sitting
there talking and she I guessthe next scene she's at the
store again, cause Violet waslike oh, I thought you were only
(21:27):
going to be gone a couple ofminutes, you were gone for three
hours or something.
And she had cut her hand Rightand she takes her gloves off.
And Violet was like ooh, what'sgoing on?
Amy (21:33):
You know you look like you're bleeding bad and I think
Does Violet say that yeah, oh, Idon't yeah, oh, I think so,
okay, yeah, because she'stalking to violet.
Garry (21:41):
I'm not sure exactly what she said she gets out a
band-aid right, she gets out aband-aid and she puts it on.
And when is it that sherealizes what happened?
Amy (21:51):
I think it might be, as she's putting the band-aid on
right she remembers that verahad a-Aid in the same exact spot
, which means that Vera was atAdam's house and did something
with the trunk.
Garry (22:06):
Yes, the junk in the trunk.
Amy (22:08):
The junk in the trunk.
Yes, so then she gets Sam.
Garry (22:13):
Yes.
Amy (22:14):
And they go to the choir practice.
Garry (22:15):
Right.
Amy (22:16):
And Sam has Vera take the.
Band-aid off.
Garry (22:21):
Yes to see, and they have identical cuts emily, because
emily takes hers off and rightthere, and then sam takes vera
to the police station and I likeit.
Amy (22:31):
And he has emily.
He has vera that he'squestioning and he has emily
behind the glass and she knockson it and he he's like.
I invited you here as acourtesy, not an interactive
experience.
Garry (22:41):
That was funny.
That was funny, but don't youlove how she kind of manipulates
Sam into doing what she needshim to do?
Amy (22:48):
Yeah, a little bit, but she's starting to like him a
little bit more.
But now she sort of has hispermission to look into stuff
and he knows she's good andinquisitive, but he doesn't
really know her?
Garry (22:59):
yeah, because she's like play on her.
Play on her what?
Um, not emotions, but play onher.
Uh, god, what is the word I'mlooking for?
Amy (23:08):
I don't know to get her to talk.
Garry (23:09):
Well, anyways, he gets her to talk and to explain
exactly what happened.
What do you mean like themurder?
Amy (23:18):
You're talking about Vera.
Yeah, okay, I think we'retalking about Emily.
Garry (23:21):
No, I'm confused.
I lost you for a minute.
Amy (23:23):
We were on Emily.
Garry (23:25):
Well, Emily was telling Sam to I thought you were
talking about-.
Amy (23:28):
So Sam gets Vera to confess to the murder.
Garry (23:31):
Yes, that you totally-.
I don't know where that went.
That's why we're both doingthis podcast.
Amy (23:35):
I don't know where that went.
Garry (23:36):
Because you, you keep me on track, I keep you on track
and you know we have VoluntilesDay and stuff like that.
Amy (23:43):
Voluntiles.
I know You've got to bring thatup.
You've got to bring that up?
Yes, I know, I don't even knowwhat.
Garry (23:50):
I'm saying anymore.
Amy (23:52):
All right, so Vera is the murderer of both Clara and.
Adam.
The couple didn't survive.
Garry (24:01):
But what's funny is she said Adam was an accident, she
wasn't going to kill him.
Amy (24:05):
She wasn't going to kill him.
He just earned it, yeah.
Garry (24:08):
He deserved it.
Amy (24:09):
She had drugged him, clara was going to a different choir
and she wasn't having any ofthat.
Garry (24:13):
Nope Right, that was betrayal right there.
Amy (24:16):
So Clara deserved it, but Adam whoopsies, you know so, but
Adam whoopsies, you know.
Garry (24:20):
So then, going back to the murder board Murder board
Right, because Sam also found adrawing, electrical drawing
right that had a big oldtriangle in the middle Right and
Emily had asked well, what is atriangle?
And Sam didn't know, but hesaid the voltage on it was way
too high.
Amy (24:40):
That's right, that's right, yes, right.
So then Emily realizes she hasto be with the choir who's at
the lighting of the Christmastree in the town, in the town
center, yeah, and as she'swalking up.
Garry (24:52):
Yeah, light bulb goes off .
She realizes almost literallyright what the triangle is.
Amy (24:56):
That the triangle is actually.
Garry (24:59):
The tree, the tree Christmas tree.
Amy (25:00):
Right is actually the tree, the tree right.
And then she puts two and twotogether.
That adam debbie was trying.
Garry (25:08):
No well, adam was had rigged the tree, or not the tree
, but the the microphone toshock debbie.
Amy (25:15):
You know, kill debbie right when they lit the tree right,
and is it at that moment thatshe realizes adam was trying?
Was the one who was trying tokill Debbie or did they already
know that.
Garry (25:25):
They didn't know that at that point.
Amy (25:26):
It's just like she put the two and two together.
Right Just trying to Right,right, right.
So then she realizes that it'sthe microphone that's the issue.
Garry (25:34):
And it's not Debbie Right , because Debbie she couldn't
sing, she she couldn't sing.
She couldn't show up.
Well, they kicked her out ofthe choir.
Amy (25:40):
Yeah.
Yeah, she was out of the choirand it was going to be Brooke.
Garry (25:43):
Right.
Amy (25:43):
Right, so Brooke was going to be the one singing, and then
Emily tells Sam that she knowswhat it is.
What it is, and then she has togo and she runs up on the stage
.
Garry (25:56):
She runs up on the stage, knocks Brooke down just in time
before she gets shocked andthen the microphone catches on
fire.
Right, right.
Amy (26:09):
And the sad thing is, is Brooke had such a great solo I
know she finally got a solo andshe can sing.
Garry (26:14):
What happened so?
Amy (26:15):
Emily saves Brooke.
Garry (26:17):
Yes.
Amy (26:17):
And I think maybe it's going to bring Brooke and Emily
closer.
Brooke will probably want toget closer to Emily now and
Emily won't have a choice afterthat moment, which is hilarious,
right.
So this episode pretty much.
There were a couple of thingsdifferent going on, right.
We find out who was doing themurders?
Yes, or who did the murders,I'm sorry, and separately, who
(26:41):
was poisoning Debbie?
Yeah, right, so we had thatgoing on, right?
So after the chaos of the treelighting ceremony, sam walks
Emily home, right Right To herstore, and they have this moment
where, you know, he kind ofadmits that he has feelings for
her and she's like, oh, sorry,sorry, and he gets put in the
(27:03):
friend zone for like a secondright and you feel badly for him
.
He's like, oh, it's okay.
And then, and then she doesstart to open up about her past,
right, and because he starts towalk away and I thought that
was a really cool scene, youknow, because he starts to walk
away and she and she, you know,I think she wants to get close
to him, but she is scared orbecause of her past doesn't want
(27:25):
to, for whatever reason, whichwe'll find out eventually.
She's worried about gettingclose to him but doesn't want
him to be hurt.
So she starts to express whyshe has a christmas store
because he had asked her that atone point.
Right, not at that point, but,um, he had asked her why, why
christmas?
And then she said her parentswere killed on new year's eve
(27:47):
and the last, the happiest theyever were was that christmas
before right, and she's beenchasing that ever since they
were killed.
Garry (27:54):
She thinks she's found it and she's in the town right,
right, so yeah there was a lotupstairs and we're goes upstairs
and we're not done.
Not done yet.
Amy (28:04):
Right, right.
Then we have one final scene.
Garry (28:06):
And the final scene is the laptop, the laptop.
And I think Emily's past gets alittle bit closer, because on
the laptop Catches up to her andit always happens to hackers in
TV series.
They think they're all gettinginto it and everything.
And all of a sudden somebodytakes over the machine.
And what comes up on the screen?
(28:28):
I know you're there and I willfind you.
How ominous is that?
Amy (28:35):
That's like Taken right.
That's like yes, I will findyou and I will kill you.
Isn't that untaken?
That is scary it also remindsme of war games.
Yeah, do you want to play agame?
Garry (28:48):
I know we're dating ourselves there.
Yeah, that was.
Amy (28:51):
AI back then.
Yeah, it was really reallycrazy.
Garry (28:53):
I know.
Amy (28:55):
But yeah, so she gets this ominous message, she immediately
closes her computer, right.
Garry (28:58):
Yeah.
Amy (28:59):
And she realizes that would freak me out.
Garry (29:01):
It would freak me out If I was running.
Amy (29:03):
I don't know if I could live like that, always looking
over my shoulder.
You think you're in a smalltown, but are you?
And in today's day and age ofsocial media and videos and
pictures and all that stuff?
Garry (29:14):
on the internet.
One wrong picture and you'reout there.
It would be so hard to hide.
Yeah, it would be.
Amy (29:27):
It'd be really hard to hide , I would think.
Not that I'm promoting hiding,but you know so suggesting
people go and hide.
So that was all the revelations, right?
Yeah?
Garry (29:30):
I think, I think we walked through that episode and
that wraps up peril of the bells.
Right, yeah, but did you haveany tinsel top moments?
Amy (29:35):
uh, it would be the end like we talked about.
Yeah, like we just talked about.
I thought that was a reallygood scene.
I thought it showed that shehas a past and she's just
itching to get close to someoneand she really, you know, does
like him and there's potential,but she can't Right and she
doesn't want to hurt him.
So I thought all of thatwrapped up in that scene, that
(29:56):
would be my tinsel topped moment.
How about you?
Garry (30:00):
I still like the scene with Brooke and and emily in the
diner.
Amy (30:02):
Yes, it was so cute, and emily was so good too, because
she's like yay let's get closer.
You know, she really doesn'twant to.
And brooke's like okay, youknow, and just as giddy to
gossip and everything.
Yeah, that scene, that's yourtinsel top moment.
Yeah, that was mine.
All right, cool.
Well, how many ornaments wouldyou hang out of five?
Garry (30:24):
I'm going to give this one a strong four.
Same.
I really enjoyed it, same, andI can't wait for the next two.
Amy (30:32):
Four ornaments for me too, and I will be curious what the
next mystery is.
I know I have no idea, but I'mreally digging the two episode.
Garry (30:40):
Yes.
Amy (30:40):
Like a start and a finish, you know.
I mean I guess like Murder.
She Wrote used to wrap it up inone episode but this is kind of
cool, yeah, I like the twoepisode you know it's like a
Hallmark two-hour movie split upyou know.
Well, I guess.
Yeah, I mean I guess Because inthe movies they have the
beginning, middle and end youare correct.
You are correct.
Garry (31:00):
So is that a wrap?
Amy (31:01):
That is a wrap.
Garry (31:02):
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