June 1, 2025 • 33 mins
In this first-class episode of Pour the Wine, It’s Rom-Com Time, Garry and Amy sort through Hallmark’s Signed, Sealed, Delivered: From Paris With Love. The POstables are stamped with their most personal assignment yet when Oliver’s long-lost wife, Holly, unexpectedly drops in on the same day the team is scheduled to deliver divorce papers. With hearts on the line and old feelings addressed, will this film get a priority pass or be returned to sender? Tune in now to find out!
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Amy (00:08):
Welcome to Pour the Wine.
It's rom-com time where we'llsip some wine and review all
things rom-com on the HallmarkChannel.
I'm Amy.
Garry (00:14):
And I'm Gary.
Amy (00:15):
And I think you better pour the wine.
Garry (00:17):
Yes, let me pour the wine .
Amy (00:19):
We're pouring something a little different.
We went with white tonight.
Garry (00:22):
Yes, it's a lot warmer outside.
Amy (00:25):
It's a lot warmer outside, so we are going with the
Chardonnay.
Garry (00:28):
That has been chill.
Amy (00:29):
And then after the podcast, we will continue that bottle.
Garry (00:32):
Yes, we will, we're done.
Amy (00:34):
Today we're going to be reviewing, Signed, Sealed,
Delivered from Paris with Lovethat originally aired on June
16th in 2015.
Garry (00:44):
Wow, you can watch it now on hallmark plus yes, you can
yes, you can why are wereviewing the ssd canon now?
Amy (00:52):
tell me why.
Why are we doing it?
Garry (00:54):
now, okay, let me tell you.
Well, when we were watching thehallmark channel, we noticed
that to the moon and back wasgoing to air in april that's
correct.
Amy (01:03):
Back in april, back in April, back in April.
Yeah, we're in June, we're inJune.
Garry (01:07):
And we decided why not watch the pilot in the series?
So we decided to do that, yep,and we fell in love, right.
Amy (01:15):
Right, right, we did so.
We watched the pilot movie andthen the series.
Garry (01:20):
Yep.
Amy (01:25):
And then we watched To the moon and back.
Yes, we did so.
We kind of we saw the verybeginning and then missed a
whole bunch in between and thensaw to the moon and back.
So now we're going back andre-watching and reviewing all of
the movies and the first onewas for christmas yes which we
love, love, love love love verymuch.
You need to go find it, watchit, add it to your list of
holiday movies.
And today we're reviewing thesecond movie that was released
(01:48):
after the series.
Garry (01:50):
To Paris From Paris, from Paris From Paris.
With love, with love, yes.
Amy (01:54):
So there we are.
So we're going to be addingbonus podcast episodes of each
of the SSD movies as we watchthem in chronological order of
course, yes, we are.
Garry (02:04):
Yeah, yeah, and you know what?
What?
Amy (02:08):
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Yeah, hopefully it's five stars, but if it's not, that's okay.
(02:30):
Yeah, give us some feedback.
We'd love to hear from you.
Garry (02:34):
And we would even read it during our podcast.
We might, yeah, but you canalso follow us on social media
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All social media Facebook,instagram, blue Sky XN Threads.
Amy (02:44):
All the things, all the socials.
Garry (02:46):
So now on with the show.
Tell us who is in this one.
Amy (02:54):
Who is in From Paris with Love Well, so what we'll do is I
will talk about new actors andactresses that appear.
I'll mention the core four, ofcourse, but if you want to hear
some of their work, that they'vebeen in go back and listen to
the very beginning of ForChristmas or our To the Moon and
Back reviews, because we listall of the actors.
(03:15):
All of them Some of their work.
It'd be too long to list all oftheir work.
So, of course, from Paris withLove stars the core four.
Eric Mabeus returns as OliverO'Toole.
Kristen Booth plays ShaneMcInerney.
Did I say that?
Garry (03:28):
right.
Amy (03:29):
McInerney, we're at a time with the last name.
Crystal Lowe plays RitaHayworth not to be confused with
Rita Hayworth and JeffGustafson plays Norman.
Also in From Paris, with Love.
Appearing as Holly is PoppyMontgomery.
This was her Hallmark premiereand, as far as I could tell, her
only Hallmark production.
(03:49):
Some of her other work includes13 episodes of the ABC series
Reef Break Unforgettable.
She was in 61 episodes from2011 to 2016.
That was a series with JaneCurtin and Dylan Walsh.
They look kind of interesting.
We might want to go back andwatch that one.
She is best known for her rolein the TV series Without a Trace
(04:11):
, where she played SamanthaSpade in 160 episodes for the
entire series run from 2002 to2009.
Sweet, pretty cool.
And in 1996, she was in oneepisode of NYPD Blue and Party
of Five.
Garry (04:25):
Oh, wow.
Amy (04:26):
Zach Santiago plays Ramon Rodriguez.
Now I can't remember if Imentioned him before.
Garry (04:31):
Yeah, you did, I did, Okay, well.
Amy (04:33):
I'll just go over a few of his.
Okay For Hallmark.
He's in 10 of the SSD moviesand a few episodes of the series
.
He was in Legend of the LostLocket in 2024, christmas at the
Golden Dragon in 2022, and MaryGo Round in 2022.
And Mary is M-A-R-R-Y.
Garry (04:52):
Okay, excuse me, mm-hmm.
Amy (04:58):
He was in a series called Sight Unseen one episode in 2025
.
And Virgin River he was inthree episodes between 2022 and
2023.
Oh, virgin River Kevin McGarryplays Joey.
River.
He was in three episodesbetween 2022 and 2023.
Virgin river kevin mcgary playsjoey.
He's been in a ton of hallmarkproductions with from paris,
with love being his first oh,wow his debut.
He's nathan grant on wind callsthe heart, where he's been in 76
episodes between 2019 and 2025.
(05:20):
Some of his other hallmark workincludes 2024's Reason for the
Season.
We watched that one.
Do you remember that one?
That was where the young womanhas to earn her trust fund by
granting the Christmas wishes topeople who saved her life.
He played the attorney in thathe was in Checking it Twice in
2023.
The three Wedding Veil moviesthere were two of them in 2022
(05:44):
and one in 2023 okay and he wasin the series heartland 48
episodes between 2016 and 2021oh, wow some oh, and he will be
in the upcoming hallmark movievilla amore, which will premiere
as part of hallmark's passportto love on saturday, june 21st
2025, and our review of thatmovie will drop on Wednesday,
(06:05):
june 25th Huh.
Garry (06:07):
There you go.
Amy (06:08):
Some of his other work includes an episode of Schitt's
Creek in 2020, the series Takenafter the movie I guess, one
episode in 2018, and the seriesOpen Heart 12 episodes in 2015.
Brooke Nevin plays Caitlin.
A few of her Hallmark projectsinclude crashing through the
snow in 2021, jingle around theclock in 2018 and the christmas
(06:30):
cure in 2017.
Some of her other work she wasin one episode of tracker in
2024.
Tracker the series good troubleseven episodes in 20 between
2022 and 2024.
The series scorpion she was infive episodes that's a great
series in 2016 and she was inthe series perception three
(06:50):
episodes in 2014 another showthat we really like yeah, that
one got canceled.
Garry (06:54):
You know, the scorpion reminds me of these characters
too a little bit.
Amy (06:58):
Yeah, yeah, you have a group of people that come
together.
Yeah, frank zotter plays kenfor hallmark.
He was in darrow and darrow inthe key of murder in 2018, a
dash of love in 2017 and garagesale mystery guilty until proven
innocent and I don't have theyear for that one oh okay, all
right well he's also been inAlert.
(07:22):
Missing Persons Unit oneepisode in 2025 and A Million
Little Things for one episode in2021.
Yep, there you go.
Garry (07:33):
That's the list.
That's the list.
Wow, you want some Hallmarktrivia.
Amy (07:37):
I want some Lay it on me.
Garry (07:38):
This one's kind of easy.
So Hallmark is based in whichUS city?
Amy (07:45):
Kansas City.
Garry (07:46):
Yes, kansas City.
Amy (07:47):
Yes, kansas City because that's where they're having
their Hallmark Christmasexperience and all that jazz.
Garry (07:54):
That one I knew.
Amy (07:55):
That was easy.
That was an easy one.
Well, thank you for giving mean easy one and not making me
laugh.
Garry (08:00):
I know A lot of them are hard.
Amy (08:02):
Yeah.
Garry (08:03):
So is it time to drop the synopsis.
Amy (08:05):
All right, let's drop the synopsis From Paris with Love.
The Postables Oliver, shane,rita and Norman return to
explore the mystery of true loveas they deliver divorce papers
to one couple the same dayOliver's missing wife reappears.
Dun dun dun.
Garry (08:24):
All right, Crazy right.
Amy (08:25):
So what did you think?
Well, I could say this Say it,lay it on me.
Garry (08:32):
I was going into Science Hill Delivered from Paris with
Love, thinking how in the worldis this movie and the rest of
them going to compare to ScienceHill Delivered for Christmas?
For Christmas, right, becauseHallmark raised that bar like
very high they did.
It's so good, rest of themgoing to compare to science,
it'll deliver for christmas forchristmas right because hallmark
raised that bar like very high.
Amy (08:48):
They did us.
Garry (08:49):
It's so good and after watching from paris with love, I
have to say hallmark did a goodjob yes, I agree I loved this
movie too.
The characters, the way, thebanter between them yes, the
growth throughout the movie.
Amy (09:06):
Yes, I have that as well, I mean, it was for me it was a
good, good movie.
It was good it's up there withFor Christmas, you think.
Garry (09:14):
Without giving away how many.
It's right under, it's rightunder, it's close, it's edge and
close.
I mean you have to be way upthere for Christmas, but this
one was right there.
Amy (09:22):
I guess when we're all done we can rank them, but it
wouldn't be fair because they'reall probably going to be great,
yes.
Garry (09:28):
Yeah, yeah, so what?
Amy (09:31):
did you think?
Well, we've seen two of themovies so far, like you just
mentioned right To the Moon andBack, which is fast forward into
the future.
Garry (09:39):
Yep.
Amy (09:40):
And we watched For Christmas and I'm not counting,
like the pilot movie in thisRight Right.
I guess.
So three if you count the pilotmovie.
I just feel like the scienceseal delivered series is like.
It's like relaxing by a firewith like.
For us it would be a glass ofwine.
Some people maybe a cup ofcoffee, it's just a.
The stories are cozy, they're awarm hug and they're just
(10:02):
really good for the soul it'slike real life.
Yeah, so I just I really reallyenjoyed it too.
I really loved it.
I thought the notion of havingthe two storylines really
parallel each other.
Garry (10:13):
Yeah.
Amy (10:13):
Was brilliant.
So you have you know Joey andKatie, that's one of the dead
letters that they read.
And then you have the deadletter from Oliver, right, that
never got to his ex-wife and so,just to you know, you have the
man, like I said, whoaccidentally sent divorce papers
to his wife two years priorRight, but it got lost.
(10:36):
And then you have Oliver'sletter.
What the year prior?
Not divorce papers, but, andboth men were in a different
place mentally and emotionallywhen they wrote those letters.
And just the way those twostorylines intersect with Shane,
the whole relationship, growthof Rita and Norman you just
mentioned relationship growth,holly Oliver's ex-wife showing
(10:58):
up and just the whole spring ofit.
All right, they're in winter andthey're talking about spring.
Just really, really great,great writing and storytelling
and acting.
Garry (11:07):
Yes, it was.
Amy (11:08):
So there you go.
Those are my thoughts.
Garry (11:09):
I mean there were times in this movie where I was
tearing up.
Amy (11:12):
I'm not even gonna lie, I know me too.
Garry (11:14):
I mean, I have to say Oliver, and all of them are
really good at those sceneswhere I mean are really good at
those scenes where I mean it'slike they're pouring their heart
out.
Amy (11:27):
I know I have some stuff about that.
Garry (11:29):
I got chills and I'm tearing up.
I'm like, oh man.
Amy (11:32):
I know I have that part of my cheers.
I know we're kind of jumpingaround, but yeah, there's just a
lot of really really good stuffin this one too.
Garry (11:41):
All right.
Well, let's dive into favoritescenes.
Amy (11:45):
Did you have any?
No, how much time do we have?
I know our last podcast waskind of long, but there's just
so many good nuanced scenes thatyou want to talk about them all
, and of course we won't rightbut, um, okay, so I had I tried
to limit my list.
I know one, so we'll go backand forth.
Maybe.
(12:05):
One is always going to be theanalyzing and opening of the
letter.
Garry (12:09):
Yes.
Amy (12:09):
The way they look at it, the things they say about it,
where it's been, if it's likethis one.
The letter was stepped on andsmelled a little like there was
maybe some dew on it doggy dewor something on it, and I just
love the ritual of that part ofit.
So, we had two in this case.
Garry (12:25):
Yes, we did.
Amy (12:28):
Norman opening his box of goodies when they go to the
jeweler.
Garry (12:33):
Yes, and he compares themselves.
I have that as a reminder.
Amy (12:37):
He's like we're the Postables, we're the Avengers
and Incredibles.
It just cracks me up, you know.
Garry (12:43):
Yeah, it was like the jeweler was supposed to know
what the postables are yeah,yeah, the jeweler's like what
does he say?
Amy (12:50):
He says, yeah, you've said that four times you know, or
whatever.
It's just so funny to me andyou know, with everything,
everything's so heavy right nowin the world.
Garry (12:58):
Right.
Amy (12:58):
You know we have so much going on and it's just really
just fun to watch these movies.
Garry (13:03):
It really is.
Amy (13:04):
They're heartfelt and they're just.
There's moments of humor andfun and giddiness and childlike
happiness.
Garry (13:13):
And it's just, they're so good.
Amy (13:14):
Yes, they are Anyway.
And then I loved Ramon is theweatherman oh his character,
Ramon.
Garry (13:21):
I love Ramon.
I know I love it when he's init because he's got a different
job every time.
Amy (13:27):
It's so great, it's just so fun to watch him.
So he's like the jack of alltrades.
It just cracks me up.
All right, you name a few andthen I'll go back into it.
Garry (13:35):
Well, we're going to stay on Ramon, because I had that
scene too.
The weatherman, because he is.
So it's like he's thischaracter that's supposed to be
goofy, but he then he's kind oflike educated and he's, he's a
man of the world, he's done alot of things right, yeah, and I
was wondering, like when theybrought the letter or the video,
(13:58):
whatever, when it was in french, and I was thinking, no, he
doesn know French.
He's just saying he does Right,but he knows French.
But he knows French and the wayhe told the story was so good.
Amy (14:15):
That scene was so good, it was so good.
Garry (14:17):
And when he, I think, doesn't, ramon, say something
like I know how many differentlanguages, and then Norm is a
little jealous right, and he'sin there and he's trying to say
oh really, do you knowPortuguese?
Amy (14:24):
Yes, and then he names some other language, I forget what,
and then he says Latin yeah, andthen he goes, of course.
Of course, or whatever.
Latin Latin was the first one.
Yeah, I think, but it's yeah.
Garry (14:36):
Cameron's a little bit, you know, jealous.
Amy (14:41):
Yeah, he gets his little jealousy bone on again you know,
ramon's kind of like Rico Suave.
Garry (14:46):
right, he's got something going on there.
He likes Rita.
But anyways, I had another oneWell, you had mentioned it, your
first one which was at thejewelry store.
I just loved the little chickenhe had in his briefcase.
Amy (15:00):
I do.
Why in the world would you havea chicken A?
Garry (15:02):
rubber chicken.
That was so funny, but whenRita and Ramon dance at the
mailbox, grill yes.
How I mean.
I love that.
She is so like goofy and quirky, but she just gets out there.
Amy (15:20):
She doesn't care and she is her own person.
Garry (15:23):
Ramon was like at first he was like okay, okay, but then
he got into it and that wassuch a I bet you they had a good
time filming that scene.
Amy (15:31):
Like the Elaine dance and Seinfeld.
Garry (15:34):
Yes, the little leg kick yeah little leg kick.
Amy (15:36):
I thought that was.
Yeah, they had to have laugheda lot during that scene.
Yes, and that's where you know,and that's where too, I think,
isn't that when Oliver says toNorman that's the first time
you've admitted you?
Garry (15:49):
have yes.
Amy (15:50):
Because he says I can't compete with that.
Garry (15:52):
Right.
Amy (15:52):
Norman says I can't compete with that.
Like he's dancing with her.
Garry (15:55):
Yeah.
Amy (15:56):
And Oliver says that's the first time you've ever admitted
you?
Garry (15:59):
Yeah, because he was like how do I compete with that,
right?
He's like what did he say?
Get another broom.
Amy (16:07):
Yeah, or something like that, yeah.
Garry (16:09):
Yeah, that was a really good scene.
Amy (16:11):
She's being swept off her feet.
Garry (16:12):
Yeah, that's what it was.
He says get a different broom.
Yeah, Yep, yep, yep.
So what else did you?
Amy (16:16):
have.
Shane first meets Holly in theDLO right.
Garry (16:24):
She was good.
Amy (16:25):
And then Oliver shows up.
So that whole, just yeah, thedynamic between Shane and Holly,
and then Oliver showing up andthe look on his face when he
sees that Holly is there Right.
So yeah, it was like the airwas sucked out of the room.
It was like yeah, oh, mygoodness.
Garry (16:45):
You know what I liked?
It was kind of a throwback tothe old time movies.
Remember when?
Amy (16:49):
There's a lot of that in these.
Garry (16:51):
When somebody was going from one continent to another.
They do the old like cartoonmap.
Amy (16:56):
Yes, and the airplane going over.
Oh, that's right, I loved thatand that's right.
Garry (17:00):
I love that, and they had the old time music too.
Amy (17:02):
Yeah, they did.
That was when.
Garry (17:04):
Holly was flying from Europe to the United States.
Amy (17:06):
From Paris, from Paris.
I thought that was pretty good.
Garry (17:11):
Yeah, no, that's a really good point, because they had a
lot of old music in this one.
Amy (17:14):
They did, they did.
Garry (17:21):
Which brings me and I'll talk about this later on some
interesting things.
Another one that I liked waswhen Shane was up on the rack.
Amy (17:27):
The scaffolding?
No, it wasn't scaffolding.
Garry (17:31):
It's where they put pallets of boxes.
Amy (17:33):
Oh, okay.
Garry (17:33):
Okay, I'm sorry, yes, well she was up on that which.
Amy (17:36):
Oh, right right.
Garry (17:37):
That wouldn't really happen in real life, because
that's an insurance issue Well,okay.
But she tells Oliver to come up, right.
Amy (17:44):
Yes.
Garry (17:44):
And then they're sitting there with their feet dangling
and they're talking aboutforgiveness because Shane says
you know you have to forgive,and I thought that was a really
cool scene.
Amy (17:54):
That was a great scene.
Well, I think it's becauseOliver too, who doesn't talk a
lot about his emotions andeverything, he's sort of trapped
in that moment and he has to.
Well, he doesn't have to, butit's.
It's sort of a moment whereyou're I don't know what the
right word is like you letthings go and you're free and
you're kind of up there it'sjust you and you know just him
(18:15):
and shane, and yeah, that was,that was a great scene.
Also, that was a little bitlater.
Garry (18:20):
Yeah, yeah, but did you have anything?
Amy (18:22):
else, when Oliver walks out of the DLO after talking with
Holly, and the other three actlike they weren't spying on them
.
It was just cute and funny.
Garry (18:34):
I just like scenes like that, where they're kind of
peeking in, yeah, when Hollycomes out first and they scoot
to the racks and everything, andthen Oliver comes out and they
do the same thing again.
Yeah, that was pretty funny.
Amy (18:44):
I have a couple other.
Do you have any more, or wereyou?
Yeah?
Garry (18:48):
I have one more.
Amy (18:48):
I have two more.
All right, go ahead.
You want me to go?
Garry (18:50):
Yeah, you go, go ahead.
Amy (18:51):
All right.
So the scene where Norman andRita are tearing up when Shane
says she's leaving when theycome into the DLO right and.
Shane has left a letter and shesays she's leaving for good.
And then that leads into Normanand Rita's big scene.
(19:12):
Yes, and I thought it was socute when you know he doesn't
understand why Shane is leavingand Rita says something like
well, you know it's becauseNorman's like what does this
have to do why?
I don't understand.
And what does Rita say?
Something like Holly, it'sHolly and Norman, like a guy,
would be like what does Hollyhave to do with this?
(19:33):
Like has no idea.
You know this whole big thingis going on.
And then Rita says it wasreally cute when two people
don't tell someone they careabout them and then that person
doesn't know they care aboutthem, and then they find someone
else who cares about them.
She's crying and it just it wasso well written and so well
done.
And then you know, and thenNorman asks Rita if she's in
(19:56):
love with Ramon.
I know, and she says no, I know, you're tearing up right now
this man.
Garry (20:02):
I have something in my eye.
I'm not tearing up.
There's something in my eye.
Amy (20:04):
And then, you know, she's like no, I'm in love with you,
you know, and it just, it was so, so good, and his face lit up.
The facial expressions onNorman are so good and they both
were tearing up.
And then, of course, they havethe big kiss.
Yes, he laid it on her and hesmiles.
(20:25):
Just such a sweet moment.
Garry (20:26):
It really worked for me so that whole scene, really I'm
going to have to go back andwatch that scene because I swear
, after he kissed her and thecamera focused back on him, it
looked like he was glowing.
Amy (20:38):
Oh, maybe.
Garry (20:39):
Yeah, I'm not sure, but it did look like that.
And the funny thing about thatscene is he goes I'm hungry.
Amy (20:45):
Are you hungry After a big kiss like that, a big like teary
eyed, heartfelt scene, yeah,and they kiss and then he goes
I'm hungry and she kind oflaughs.
It was so cute.
Yeah, he had a couple firsts inthis movie.
Garry (20:59):
One of my other favorite things, or my last one, is when
Shane gets up on stage at thecomedy show and he's warming up
the crowd.
Amy (21:08):
Norman, I mean Norman, sorry, right.
Garry (21:10):
Norman gets up on stage because he's sitting there
listening to Shane and Rita talkabout getting Ramon to come in
and do it and you know Normanwasn't having any of that Right
right.
He went up there and he wasjust so shy, and so he plays
that character to a T.
Amy (21:27):
At first he's and then he kind of opens up once he starts
talking about things that heknows really well, and he starts
talking about hey, we're in theDead Letter, you know, and it's
.
Garry (21:36):
And it's so funny.
Yeah, and Rita just walks up tothe front of the stage and
she's just looking up at him.
Amy (21:42):
She's just watching him.
Yeah, so proud yeah.
Garry (21:46):
So that was well.
Actually I did have one more,but you have one more.
Amy (21:50):
Yeah, I have one more.
So I loved, loved, loved thevery last scene.
Garry (21:55):
That's mine.
Is that what you have too?
Amy (21:57):
Yes, yeah, so it's just Oliver and Shane.
He's put together a porch swingfor her because she mentions at
the beginning how she used tolove to sit on the porch swing,
right.
As a young child, as a youngchild, and so he and it was
(22:19):
because she knew like the porchswing would go up just before
spring was about to happen,right?
So she knew the warmer weatherwas coming and change and all
that, and she used to love it.
So I just and I loved theirlike banter.
So she knew the warmer weatherwas coming and change and all
that, and she used to love itand I loved their banter.
Garry (22:32):
I love that.
Everything that she said Oliverhad a counter to, there's a lot
of metaphors.
Amy (22:34):
Yeah, I quit the post office forever.
And he's like no, you didn't.
And then she says you won'thave a hard time replacing me?
And he says you'reirreplaceable, or that would be
impossible.
We didn't even have thatposition before you came.
Yeah, and then it was so sweet.
When he says, um, he wondered,you know, he wondered what he
would do if he was ever and I'mparaphrasing free from holly not
in a bad way, but just hewondered what he would do if you
(22:57):
know, if they ever, if she didcome back right what would
happen?
and if they did get divorced,what would happen?
And then um shane asked himwell, what did you do?
And he said I went and bought aporch swing.
Yeah, and I was like that washim telling her I was so good,
oh, my gosh.
Garry (23:12):
You want to know what that reminds me that was so, so
good that reminded and you gotme watching dawson's creek yes,
and that your favorite, myfavorite scene ever.
You explain it because you doit better than I do.
Amy (23:25):
That's what it reminded you of.
Garry (23:26):
That's what it reminded me of.
Amy (23:27):
So that scene reminded you.
There's a scene in Dawson'sCreek where they're at the
anti-prom.
Garry (23:33):
Right.
Amy (23:33):
And okay, if you've never watched Dawson Creek, go watch
it, Even though it's about youngkids it's so good, so good.
And there's a scene where Paceyand Joey are dancing and Joey's
wearing some earrings thataren't really her.
Garry (23:51):
Right.
Amy (23:52):
They're not really her and he's and Pacey says to her you
know, I don't, I don't thoseearrings aren't you?
They're kind of.
You know, they're too formal.
Garry (24:01):
Right.
Amy (24:02):
And Joey's like well, what you mean?
I can't wear something likethat.
And he goes no, this braceletis you, this is you know this
says who you are.
I know your mom and you love itso much because your mom gave
it to you, or you know.
He goes on this thing and shesays you know, how do you
remember?
You remember that.
And he says I remembereverything.
And I that, and he says Iremember everything and I was
(24:26):
just like oh my gosh, yes, andthat's what it reminded me
that's the scene.
Garry (24:28):
Yeah, oliver remembered the conversation right right I
mean, how cool is oliverremembers, I think everything,
everything he's got like aphotographic memory.
I just love his character.
Amy (24:36):
He's like this old soul and this you know younger man's
body, not like a teenager, butjust you know, yeah he doesn't
even know what youtube is I knowthat's so funny.
Oh gosh, okay, did you have anymore?
Scenes we could go on forever.
I have so many in my notes butI yeah those were the highlights
what about biggest cheer?
(24:57):
All right um Do you?
Want me to go, or do you wantto go?
I'll do it.
Okay, you go first.
Garry (25:05):
He didn't stay with Holly , that was my biggest cheer.
Amy (25:08):
Oh, that was your biggest cheer I did yeah.
Garry (25:11):
You know, from watching To the Moon and Back, you know
he doesn't stay with her.
But I thought that was cool andI loved how it was mutual.
You know, I'm glad it wasn'tone wanted it and one didn't.
Amy (25:22):
That is exactly what I have as one of my big cheers too.
I'm so glad they did it thatway.
Yes, yes.
Garry (25:28):
And boy, when Shane was looking in the window and saying
don't kiss her, don't kiss her.
Amy (25:33):
And then they kissed and they kissed and oof Right.
Garry (25:37):
Another scene Right.
Amy (25:39):
Right, Tear up, Well, and then you think about Shane and
how she is going off topic alittle bit, but I have to
discuss it.
How she, you know she finds theletter that Oliver wrote.
It never got delivered to Parisand she knows she shouldn't
read it, but she's dying to readit.
So she has Rita come with herand Rita opens it and reads it
(25:59):
or it's already open, I forget.
And then there's this wholelike she's torn.
She should give it to him.
They need to mail it because itshould go to her, but Shane
doesn't.
You can tell she's torn, shedoesn't want to, but she does
the right thing, right, becauseit really should go to her, and
yeah so.
Garry (26:17):
Yeah, what about you?
Amy (26:19):
That's along one of my first biggest cheers the
relationship developments andemphasis on how important
communication is yeah, right, sowe had the.
Yeah, I mean I love that theydidn't have oliver and holly as
enemies like you mentioned.
They didn't make holly thisevil person right and I really
loved that they wrapped up thatstoryline.
It didn't drag on for the forthe rest of the movies it didn't
(26:39):
.
They didn't drag it out and itwas.
It was mutual I mean, had itbeen a year before?
You know, I think he reallywanted her back.
But I think when they had theirdinner and their discussion and
he's she's like you know, doyou?
I forget exactly what she says,Like do you still want to be
married, do you want to getdivorced?
And he's like I want answers.
Like I want to know why youleft I you owe me that
(27:00):
explanation, but it wasn't in aharsh way, it was just like we
need to talk about it because Ineed to move forward so I really
, really like that.
I you know the fact that we sawnorman jealous but finally
opening up more and ritaadmitting her feelings yeah,
like I just discussed, thebiggest cheer too was shane.
She could have gotten rid ofthat dead letter to holly.
(27:21):
Never sent it, but she does theright thing.
And of course, you know we havejoey and katie's storyline
where joey you know he was goingto divorce katie because he
thought she was seeing someoneelse and again.
This is where the communicationcomes in and instead of talking
to her about it, right, he'sgoing to divorce her, but the
(27:41):
divorce letters get lost he getsinjured, katie and him fall
more in love than they ever werebefore, even though they had
kind of gotten lost.
Um for a bit and um yeah.
So if he would have justcommunicated it and then you
find out she was actuallytalking to somebody she was the
owner to ken, yeah or the ownerof the comedy, and she wanted to
(28:04):
do stand-up comedy.
To make him laugh, but Joeydoesn't know that.
So I just thought that you knowtheir storyline really worked
in there too, and it was aboutcommunication.
And had they communicated?
Garry (28:15):
that at the time he wouldn't have sent the letter.
Amy (28:18):
You know there wouldn't have been the need for that, so
I thought that really worked.
Garry (28:21):
Yeah, the parallels were spot on, and one of the other
things that I noticed was what'shis name?
Joey.
He mailed it on accidentbecause somebody was getting
carjacked Right.
And he got beat near death.
Amy (28:36):
Right, that's what brought them back together.
Garry (28:37):
Oliver was in the bank vault near death.
Amy (28:40):
Oh, that's a good point when he wrote that.
Garry (28:42):
So I thought that was a good parallel between the two
stories.
Amy (28:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Between the two.
That was pretty cool.
Yeah, the flashback momentswere really good too.
Garry (28:49):
Really good.
Amy (28:49):
Really good too, and one of my other cheers was the full
circle moment of the dance moves.
Yes so the dance moves are partof the series right, where
Oliver learns to dance becausehis wife always wanted him to.
Garry (29:02):
With Shane Well.
She dances.
He learns it with Shane Well.
Amy (29:06):
Holly always wanted Oliver to learn how to dance.
And he's dancing, and then hispartner.
Right, Doesn't something happento his partner?
Garry (29:13):
Yeah, something happens to her.
Amy (29:15):
And then Shane steps in and does the dance moves.
And then in the scene whereOliver and his well, his
soon-to-be ex, where they havedinner, and then they do dance
and Holly is impressed that hefinally learned to dance she
always wanted him to and they'redoing the moves that he had
done with Shane.
Garry (29:33):
I know, and that's what she sees in the window Sad, yeah
, yeah.
Amy (29:37):
So do you have any other cheers?
Garry (29:39):
Yeah, I like Ramon, just constantly makes me smile.
Amy (29:44):
I know he really does.
Garry (29:47):
He was a cliff diver.
Amy (29:48):
Yes, they brought that up too.
Doesn't Shane say, you were acliff diver you?
Garry (29:52):
weren't a cliff diver, he goes yes.
I was, and she goes well,that's dangerous.
And then he says once we facethe things we fear, they no
longer have power over us.
Amy (30:02):
Oh, that's good, and then he goes, no they no longer have
power over us, oh that's.
And then he goes no like right,right no, I thought that was
very powerful.
Garry (30:10):
That was really good.
Yeah, he's a good character.
He's such a good character inthese movies I love it.
Amy (30:14):
Oh gosh, I know I can't wait to see what they have him
do next so did you have anyjeers?
um no, I have one more cheer oh,you have one more cheer, okay
and this is mainly about and youmentioned this earlier and
they're all're all in the.
Jeff Gustafson is really goodat this too, but Eric Mabeus is
so good at showing withoutspeaking a word.
Yes, his facial expressions are, I mean.
(30:36):
We loved him.
I loved him in Ugly Betty, butthis just really gives a much
deeper look into his actingchops.
I mean, I think he is so good.
Garry (30:46):
I'm surprised he's not doing, you know, movies like
movie movies.
Amy (30:50):
Like I said, his facial expressions say everything
without a word being spoken andI just that is.
That is just a huge cheer fromme.
So, and there's so many timesin this one, especially where he
kind of gets, he's looking andhe gets teared up or he smiles-
because something really touches.
It's just so good yeah, it is I.
Garry (31:09):
I agree with you I'm going away, so did you have any
jeers?
Amy (31:12):
I did not me either.
I didn't I I literally wastrying to think what am I gonna
say?
Is a jeer and I I couldn'tthink of anything.
I just, you know, like wetalked about, and I really liked
Holly's character.
Right you know she was trying tofind herself too.
I like that they.
And then she said you know shewas going to come back sooner,
(31:35):
but then it just got harder tocome back.
So you understand a little bitmore from her, like I wanted to,
but then it just seemed like itwas too long and too, much, and
you know so, and she had herown journey of what she wanted
to do, and you know, and then Ijust okay, so I love it.
Garry (31:51):
One of the interesting things watching her throughout
this movie was she kind ofsounded to me like an actress
from the fifties or sixties.
Yeah, how they were so Wellthey played it like that.
Right, they played like the old, so I didn't know if you call
it that movies or something, yes, where the woman walks in with
(32:12):
the heels and yeah, she was likeollie.
You know, I don't know how toexplain it, but it was very good
.
It's very, it's very much gotthe and that's kind of oliver
right like he's an old soul anduh, yeah, yeah and just one more
thing, oliver, walking aroundthe city every movie yes.
Amy (32:23):
I had that in my notes too, he's always walking somewhere.
Yeah, yeah.
So, Out of five corks, how manydo you give it?
Garry (32:31):
I want to give it a five.
Amy (32:33):
I want to give it a ten.
Yes, no, I'll give it a five.
Garry (32:35):
I want to give it a five.
Amy (32:36):
It's got to be five.
Garry (32:40):
Yes, I don't know it, just the acting is good.
No green screens.
No green screens, all good.
It was great, all good.
So is it, and you give it afive too.
Amy (32:48):
I give it a five corks.
Garry (32:49):
All right, so is that a wrap.
Amy (32:51):
That's a wrap.
Garry (32:52):
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Amy (33:06):
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Garry (33:27):
Cheers.
Welcome to Pour the Wine.
It's rom-com time where we'llsip some wine and review all
things rom-com on the HallmarkChannel.
I'm Amy.
Garry (00:14):
And I'm Gary.
Amy (00:15):
And I think you better pour the wine.
Garry (00:17):
Yes, let me pour the wine .
Amy (00:19):
We're pouring something a little different.
We went with white tonight.
Garry (00:22):
Yes, it's a lot warmer outside.
Amy (00:25):
It's a lot warmer outside, so we are going with the
Chardonnay.
Garry (00:28):
That has been chill.
Amy (00:29):
And then after the podcast, we will continue that bottle.
Garry (00:32):
Yes, we will, we're done.
Amy (00:34):
Today we're going to be reviewing, Signed, Sealed,
Delivered from Paris with Lovethat originally aired on June
16th in 2015.
Garry (00:44):
Wow, you can watch it now on hallmark plus yes, you can
yes, you can why are wereviewing the ssd canon now?
Amy (00:52):
tell me why.
Why are we doing it?
Garry (00:54):
now, okay, let me tell you.
Well, when we were watching thehallmark channel, we noticed
that to the moon and back wasgoing to air in april that's
correct.
Amy (01:03):
Back in april, back in April, back in April.
Yeah, we're in June, we're inJune.
Garry (01:07):
And we decided why not watch the pilot in the series?
So we decided to do that, yep,and we fell in love, right.
Amy (01:15):
Right, right, we did so.
We watched the pilot movie andthen the series.
Garry (01:20):
Yep.
Amy (01:25):
And then we watched To the moon and back.
Yes, we did so.
We kind of we saw the verybeginning and then missed a
whole bunch in between and thensaw to the moon and back.
So now we're going back andre-watching and reviewing all of
the movies and the first onewas for christmas yes which we
love, love, love love love verymuch.
You need to go find it, watchit, add it to your list of
holiday movies.
And today we're reviewing thesecond movie that was released
(01:48):
after the series.
Garry (01:50):
To Paris From Paris, from Paris From Paris.
With love, with love, yes.
Amy (01:54):
So there we are.
So we're going to be addingbonus podcast episodes of each
of the SSD movies as we watchthem in chronological order of
course, yes, we are.
Garry (02:04):
Yeah, yeah, and you know what?
What?
Amy (02:08):
if you don't want to miss any of our episodes, we would
really love it if you click thatfollow button on your favorite
podcast platform yes, if youlisten on apple or spotify, you
can also leave us a review we'dreally love and appreciate if
you if you do take the time andhave the time to leave a review.
Yeah, hopefully it's five stars, but if it's not, that's okay.
(02:30):
Yeah, give us some feedback.
We'd love to hear from you.
Garry (02:34):
And we would even read it during our podcast.
We might, yeah, but you canalso follow us on social media
Facebook, instagram, blue SkyXNThreads.
All social media Facebook,instagram, blue Sky XN Threads.
Amy (02:44):
All the things, all the socials.
Garry (02:46):
So now on with the show.
Tell us who is in this one.
Amy (02:54):
Who is in From Paris with Love Well, so what we'll do is I
will talk about new actors andactresses that appear.
I'll mention the core four, ofcourse, but if you want to hear
some of their work, that they'vebeen in go back and listen to
the very beginning of ForChristmas or our To the Moon and
Back reviews, because we listall of the actors.
(03:15):
All of them Some of their work.
It'd be too long to list all oftheir work.
So, of course, from Paris withLove stars the core four.
Eric Mabeus returns as OliverO'Toole.
Kristen Booth plays ShaneMcInerney.
Did I say that?
Garry (03:28):
right.
Amy (03:29):
McInerney, we're at a time with the last name.
Crystal Lowe plays RitaHayworth not to be confused with
Rita Hayworth and JeffGustafson plays Norman.
Also in From Paris, with Love.
Appearing as Holly is PoppyMontgomery.
This was her Hallmark premiereand, as far as I could tell, her
only Hallmark production.
(03:49):
Some of her other work includes13 episodes of the ABC series
Reef Break Unforgettable.
She was in 61 episodes from2011 to 2016.
That was a series with JaneCurtin and Dylan Walsh.
They look kind of interesting.
We might want to go back andwatch that one.
She is best known for her rolein the TV series Without a Trace
(04:11):
, where she played SamanthaSpade in 160 episodes for the
entire series run from 2002 to2009.
Sweet, pretty cool.
And in 1996, she was in oneepisode of NYPD Blue and Party
of Five.
Garry (04:25):
Oh, wow.
Amy (04:26):
Zach Santiago plays Ramon Rodriguez.
Now I can't remember if Imentioned him before.
Garry (04:31):
Yeah, you did, I did, Okay, well.
Amy (04:33):
I'll just go over a few of his.
Okay For Hallmark.
He's in 10 of the SSD moviesand a few episodes of the series
.
He was in Legend of the LostLocket in 2024, christmas at the
Golden Dragon in 2022, and MaryGo Round in 2022.
And Mary is M-A-R-R-Y.
Garry (04:52):
Okay, excuse me, mm-hmm.
Amy (04:58):
He was in a series called Sight Unseen one episode in 2025
.
And Virgin River he was inthree episodes between 2022 and
2023.
Oh, virgin River Kevin McGarryplays Joey.
River.
He was in three episodesbetween 2022 and 2023.
Virgin river kevin mcgary playsjoey.
He's been in a ton of hallmarkproductions with from paris,
with love being his first oh,wow his debut.
He's nathan grant on wind callsthe heart, where he's been in 76
episodes between 2019 and 2025.
(05:20):
Some of his other hallmark workincludes 2024's Reason for the
Season.
We watched that one.
Do you remember that one?
That was where the young womanhas to earn her trust fund by
granting the Christmas wishes topeople who saved her life.
He played the attorney in thathe was in Checking it Twice in
2023.
The three Wedding Veil moviesthere were two of them in 2022
(05:44):
and one in 2023 okay and he wasin the series heartland 48
episodes between 2016 and 2021oh, wow some oh, and he will be
in the upcoming hallmark movievilla amore, which will premiere
as part of hallmark's passportto love on saturday, june 21st
2025, and our review of thatmovie will drop on Wednesday,
(06:05):
june 25th Huh.
Garry (06:07):
There you go.
Amy (06:08):
Some of his other work includes an episode of Schitt's
Creek in 2020, the series Takenafter the movie I guess, one
episode in 2018, and the seriesOpen Heart 12 episodes in 2015.
Brooke Nevin plays Caitlin.
A few of her Hallmark projectsinclude crashing through the
snow in 2021, jingle around theclock in 2018 and the christmas
(06:30):
cure in 2017.
Some of her other work she wasin one episode of tracker in
2024.
Tracker the series good troubleseven episodes in 20 between
2022 and 2024.
The series scorpion she was infive episodes that's a great
series in 2016 and she was inthe series perception three
(06:50):
episodes in 2014 another showthat we really like yeah, that
one got canceled.
Garry (06:54):
You know, the scorpion reminds me of these characters
too a little bit.
Amy (06:58):
Yeah, yeah, you have a group of people that come
together.
Yeah, frank zotter plays kenfor hallmark.
He was in darrow and darrow inthe key of murder in 2018, a
dash of love in 2017 and garagesale mystery guilty until proven
innocent and I don't have theyear for that one oh okay, all
right well he's also been inAlert.
(07:22):
Missing Persons Unit oneepisode in 2025 and A Million
Little Things for one episode in2021.
Yep, there you go.
Garry (07:33):
That's the list.
That's the list.
Wow, you want some Hallmarktrivia.
Amy (07:37):
I want some Lay it on me.
Garry (07:38):
This one's kind of easy.
So Hallmark is based in whichUS city?
Amy (07:45):
Kansas City.
Garry (07:46):
Yes, kansas City.
Amy (07:47):
Yes, kansas City because that's where they're having
their Hallmark Christmasexperience and all that jazz.
Garry (07:54):
That one I knew.
Amy (07:55):
That was easy.
That was an easy one.
Well, thank you for giving mean easy one and not making me
laugh.
Garry (08:00):
I know A lot of them are hard.
Amy (08:02):
Yeah.
Garry (08:03):
So is it time to drop the synopsis.
Amy (08:05):
All right, let's drop the synopsis From Paris with Love.
The Postables Oliver, shane,rita and Norman return to
explore the mystery of true loveas they deliver divorce papers
to one couple the same dayOliver's missing wife reappears.
Dun dun dun.
Garry (08:24):
All right, Crazy right.
Amy (08:25):
So what did you think?
Well, I could say this Say it,lay it on me.
Garry (08:32):
I was going into Science Hill Delivered from Paris with
Love, thinking how in the worldis this movie and the rest of
them going to compare to ScienceHill Delivered for Christmas?
For Christmas, right, becauseHallmark raised that bar like
very high they did.
It's so good, rest of themgoing to compare to science,
it'll deliver for christmas forchristmas right because hallmark
raised that bar like very high.
Amy (08:48):
They did us.
Garry (08:49):
It's so good and after watching from paris with love, I
have to say hallmark did a goodjob yes, I agree I loved this
movie too.
The characters, the way, thebanter between them yes, the
growth throughout the movie.
Amy (09:06):
Yes, I have that as well, I mean, it was for me it was a
good, good movie.
It was good it's up there withFor Christmas, you think.
Garry (09:14):
Without giving away how many.
It's right under, it's rightunder, it's close, it's edge and
close.
I mean you have to be way upthere for Christmas, but this
one was right there.
Amy (09:22):
I guess when we're all done we can rank them, but it
wouldn't be fair because they'reall probably going to be great,
yes.
Garry (09:28):
Yeah, yeah, so what?
Amy (09:31):
did you think?
Well, we've seen two of themovies so far, like you just
mentioned right To the Moon andBack, which is fast forward into
the future.
Garry (09:39):
Yep.
Amy (09:40):
And we watched For Christmas and I'm not counting,
like the pilot movie in thisRight Right.
I guess.
So three if you count the pilotmovie.
I just feel like the scienceseal delivered series is like.
It's like relaxing by a firewith like.
For us it would be a glass ofwine.
Some people maybe a cup ofcoffee, it's just a.
The stories are cozy, they're awarm hug and they're just
(10:02):
really good for the soul it'slike real life.
Yeah, so I just I really reallyenjoyed it too.
I really loved it.
I thought the notion of havingthe two storylines really
parallel each other.
Garry (10:13):
Yeah.
Amy (10:13):
Was brilliant.
So you have you know Joey andKatie, that's one of the dead
letters that they read.
And then you have the deadletter from Oliver, right, that
never got to his ex-wife and so,just to you know, you have the
man, like I said, whoaccidentally sent divorce papers
to his wife two years priorRight, but it got lost.
(10:36):
And then you have Oliver'sletter.
What the year prior?
Not divorce papers, but, andboth men were in a different
place mentally and emotionallywhen they wrote those letters.
And just the way those twostorylines intersect with Shane,
the whole relationship, growthof Rita and Norman you just
mentioned relationship growth,holly Oliver's ex-wife showing
(10:58):
up and just the whole spring ofit.
All right, they're in winter andthey're talking about spring.
Just really, really great,great writing and storytelling
and acting.
Garry (11:07):
Yes, it was.
Amy (11:08):
So there you go.
Those are my thoughts.
Garry (11:09):
I mean there were times in this movie where I was
tearing up.
Amy (11:12):
I'm not even gonna lie, I know me too.
Garry (11:14):
I mean, I have to say Oliver, and all of them are
really good at those sceneswhere I mean are really good at
those scenes where I mean it'slike they're pouring their heart
out.
Amy (11:27):
I know I have some stuff about that.
Garry (11:29):
I got chills and I'm tearing up.
I'm like, oh man.
Amy (11:32):
I know I have that part of my cheers.
I know we're kind of jumpingaround, but yeah, there's just a
lot of really really good stuffin this one too.
Garry (11:41):
All right.
Well, let's dive into favoritescenes.
Amy (11:45):
Did you have any?
No, how much time do we have?
I know our last podcast waskind of long, but there's just
so many good nuanced scenes thatyou want to talk about them all
, and of course we won't rightbut, um, okay, so I had I tried
to limit my list.
I know one, so we'll go backand forth.
Maybe.
(12:05):
One is always going to be theanalyzing and opening of the
letter.
Garry (12:09):
Yes.
Amy (12:09):
The way they look at it, the things they say about it,
where it's been, if it's likethis one.
The letter was stepped on andsmelled a little like there was
maybe some dew on it doggy dewor something on it, and I just
love the ritual of that part ofit.
So, we had two in this case.
Garry (12:25):
Yes, we did.
Amy (12:28):
Norman opening his box of goodies when they go to the
jeweler.
Garry (12:33):
Yes, and he compares themselves.
I have that as a reminder.
Amy (12:37):
He's like we're the Postables, we're the Avengers
and Incredibles.
It just cracks me up, you know.
Garry (12:43):
Yeah, it was like the jeweler was supposed to know
what the postables are yeah,yeah, the jeweler's like what
does he say?
Amy (12:50):
He says, yeah, you've said that four times you know, or
whatever.
It's just so funny to me andyou know, with everything,
everything's so heavy right nowin the world.
Garry (12:58):
Right.
Amy (12:58):
You know we have so much going on and it's just really
just fun to watch these movies.
Garry (13:03):
It really is.
Amy (13:04):
They're heartfelt and they're just.
There's moments of humor andfun and giddiness and childlike
happiness.
Garry (13:13):
And it's just, they're so good.
Amy (13:14):
Yes, they are Anyway.
And then I loved Ramon is theweatherman oh his character,
Ramon.
Garry (13:21):
I love Ramon.
I know I love it when he's init because he's got a different
job every time.
Amy (13:27):
It's so great, it's just so fun to watch him.
So he's like the jack of alltrades.
It just cracks me up.
All right, you name a few andthen I'll go back into it.
Garry (13:35):
Well, we're going to stay on Ramon, because I had that
scene too.
The weatherman, because he is.
So it's like he's thischaracter that's supposed to be
goofy, but he then he's kind oflike educated and he's, he's a
man of the world, he's done alot of things right, yeah, and I
was wondering, like when theybrought the letter or the video,
(13:58):
whatever, when it was in french, and I was thinking, no, he
doesn know French.
He's just saying he does Right,but he knows French.
But he knows French and the wayhe told the story was so good.
Amy (14:15):
That scene was so good, it was so good.
Garry (14:17):
And when he, I think, doesn't, ramon, say something
like I know how many differentlanguages, and then Norm is a
little jealous right, and he'sin there and he's trying to say
oh really, do you knowPortuguese?
Amy (14:24):
Yes, and then he names some other language, I forget what,
and then he says Latin yeah, andthen he goes, of course.
Of course, or whatever.
Latin Latin was the first one.
Yeah, I think, but it's yeah.
Garry (14:36):
Cameron's a little bit, you know, jealous.
Amy (14:41):
Yeah, he gets his little jealousy bone on again you know,
ramon's kind of like Rico Suave.
Garry (14:46):
right, he's got something going on there.
He likes Rita.
But anyways, I had another oneWell, you had mentioned it, your
first one which was at thejewelry store.
I just loved the little chickenhe had in his briefcase.
Amy (15:00):
I do.
Why in the world would you havea chicken A?
Garry (15:02):
rubber chicken.
That was so funny, but whenRita and Ramon dance at the
mailbox, grill yes.
How I mean.
I love that.
She is so like goofy and quirky, but she just gets out there.
Amy (15:20):
She doesn't care and she is her own person.
Garry (15:23):
Ramon was like at first he was like okay, okay, but then
he got into it and that wassuch a I bet you they had a good
time filming that scene.
Amy (15:31):
Like the Elaine dance and Seinfeld.
Garry (15:34):
Yes, the little leg kick yeah little leg kick.
Amy (15:36):
I thought that was.
Yeah, they had to have laugheda lot during that scene.
Yes, and that's where you know,and that's where too, I think,
isn't that when Oliver says toNorman that's the first time
you've admitted you?
Garry (15:49):
have yes.
Amy (15:50):
Because he says I can't compete with that.
Garry (15:52):
Right.
Amy (15:52):
Norman says I can't compete with that.
Like he's dancing with her.
Garry (15:55):
Yeah.
Amy (15:56):
And Oliver says that's the first time you've ever admitted
you?
Garry (15:59):
Yeah, because he was like how do I compete with that,
right?
He's like what did he say?
Get another broom.
Amy (16:07):
Yeah, or something like that, yeah.
Garry (16:09):
Yeah, that was a really good scene.
Amy (16:11):
She's being swept off her feet.
Garry (16:12):
Yeah, that's what it was.
He says get a different broom.
Yeah, Yep, yep, yep.
So what else did you?
Amy (16:16):
have.
Shane first meets Holly in theDLO right.
Garry (16:24):
She was good.
Amy (16:25):
And then Oliver shows up.
So that whole, just yeah, thedynamic between Shane and Holly,
and then Oliver showing up andthe look on his face when he
sees that Holly is there Right.
So yeah, it was like the airwas sucked out of the room.
It was like yeah, oh, mygoodness.
Garry (16:45):
You know what I liked?
It was kind of a throwback tothe old time movies.
Remember when?
Amy (16:49):
There's a lot of that in these.
Garry (16:51):
When somebody was going from one continent to another.
They do the old like cartoonmap.
Amy (16:56):
Yes, and the airplane going over.
Oh, that's right, I loved thatand that's right.
Garry (17:00):
I love that, and they had the old time music too.
Amy (17:02):
Yeah, they did.
That was when.
Garry (17:04):
Holly was flying from Europe to the United States.
Amy (17:06):
From Paris, from Paris.
I thought that was pretty good.
Garry (17:11):
Yeah, no, that's a really good point, because they had a
lot of old music in this one.
Amy (17:14):
They did, they did.
Garry (17:21):
Which brings me and I'll talk about this later on some
interesting things.
Another one that I liked waswhen Shane was up on the rack.
Amy (17:27):
The scaffolding?
No, it wasn't scaffolding.
Garry (17:31):
It's where they put pallets of boxes.
Amy (17:33):
Oh, okay.
Garry (17:33):
Okay, I'm sorry, yes, well she was up on that which.
Amy (17:36):
Oh, right right.
Garry (17:37):
That wouldn't really happen in real life, because
that's an insurance issue Well,okay.
But she tells Oliver to come up, right.
Amy (17:44):
Yes.
Garry (17:44):
And then they're sitting there with their feet dangling
and they're talking aboutforgiveness because Shane says
you know you have to forgive,and I thought that was a really
cool scene.
Amy (17:54):
That was a great scene.
Well, I think it's becauseOliver too, who doesn't talk a
lot about his emotions andeverything, he's sort of trapped
in that moment and he has to.
Well, he doesn't have to, butit's.
It's sort of a moment whereyou're I don't know what the
right word is like you letthings go and you're free and
you're kind of up there it'sjust you and you know just him
(18:15):
and shane, and yeah, that was,that was a great scene.
Also, that was a little bitlater.
Garry (18:20):
Yeah, yeah, but did you have anything?
Amy (18:22):
else, when Oliver walks out of the DLO after talking with
Holly, and the other three actlike they weren't spying on them
.
It was just cute and funny.
Garry (18:34):
I just like scenes like that, where they're kind of
peeking in, yeah, when Hollycomes out first and they scoot
to the racks and everything, andthen Oliver comes out and they
do the same thing again.
Yeah, that was pretty funny.
Amy (18:44):
I have a couple other.
Do you have any more, or wereyou?
Yeah?
Garry (18:48):
I have one more.
Amy (18:48):
I have two more.
All right, go ahead.
You want me to go?
Garry (18:50):
Yeah, you go, go ahead.
Amy (18:51):
All right.
So the scene where Norman andRita are tearing up when Shane
says she's leaving when theycome into the DLO right and.
Shane has left a letter and shesays she's leaving for good.
And then that leads into Normanand Rita's big scene.
(19:12):
Yes, and I thought it was socute when you know he doesn't
understand why Shane is leavingand Rita says something like
well, you know it's becauseNorman's like what does this
have to do why?
I don't understand.
And what does Rita say?
Something like Holly, it'sHolly and Norman, like a guy,
would be like what does Hollyhave to do with this?
(19:33):
Like has no idea.
You know this whole big thingis going on.
And then Rita says it wasreally cute when two people
don't tell someone they careabout them and then that person
doesn't know they care aboutthem, and then they find someone
else who cares about them.
She's crying and it just it wasso well written and so well
done.
And then you know, and thenNorman asks Rita if she's in
(19:56):
love with Ramon.
I know, and she says no, I know, you're tearing up right now
this man.
Garry (20:02):
I have something in my eye.
I'm not tearing up.
There's something in my eye.
Amy (20:04):
And then, you know, she's like no, I'm in love with you,
you know, and it just, it was so, so good, and his face lit up.
The facial expressions onNorman are so good and they both
were tearing up.
And then, of course, they havethe big kiss.
Yes, he laid it on her and hesmiles.
(20:25):
Just such a sweet moment.
Garry (20:26):
It really worked for me so that whole scene, really I'm
going to have to go back andwatch that scene because I swear
, after he kissed her and thecamera focused back on him, it
looked like he was glowing.
Amy (20:38):
Oh, maybe.
Garry (20:39):
Yeah, I'm not sure, but it did look like that.
And the funny thing about thatscene is he goes I'm hungry.
Amy (20:45):
Are you hungry After a big kiss like that, a big like teary
eyed, heartfelt scene, yeah,and they kiss and then he goes
I'm hungry and she kind oflaughs.
It was so cute.
Yeah, he had a couple firsts inthis movie.
Garry (20:59):
One of my other favorite things, or my last one, is when
Shane gets up on stage at thecomedy show and he's warming up
the crowd.
Amy (21:08):
Norman, I mean Norman, sorry, right.
Garry (21:10):
Norman gets up on stage because he's sitting there
listening to Shane and Rita talkabout getting Ramon to come in
and do it and you know Normanwasn't having any of that Right
right.
He went up there and he wasjust so shy, and so he plays
that character to a T.
Amy (21:27):
At first he's and then he kind of opens up once he starts
talking about things that heknows really well, and he starts
talking about hey, we're in theDead Letter, you know, and it's
.
Garry (21:36):
And it's so funny.
Yeah, and Rita just walks up tothe front of the stage and
she's just looking up at him.
Amy (21:42):
She's just watching him.
Yeah, so proud yeah.
Garry (21:46):
So that was well.
Actually I did have one more,but you have one more.
Amy (21:50):
Yeah, I have one more.
So I loved, loved, loved thevery last scene.
Garry (21:55):
That's mine.
Is that what you have too?
Amy (21:57):
Yes, yeah, so it's just Oliver and Shane.
He's put together a porch swingfor her because she mentions at
the beginning how she used tolove to sit on the porch swing,
right.
As a young child, as a youngchild, and so he and it was
(22:19):
because she knew like the porchswing would go up just before
spring was about to happen,right?
So she knew the warmer weatherwas coming and change and all
that, and she used to love it.
So I just and I loved theirlike banter.
So she knew the warmer weatherwas coming and change and all
that, and she used to love itand I loved their banter.
Garry (22:32):
I love that.
Everything that she said Oliverhad a counter to, there's a lot
of metaphors.
Amy (22:34):
Yeah, I quit the post office forever.
And he's like no, you didn't.
And then she says you won'thave a hard time replacing me?
And he says you'reirreplaceable, or that would be
impossible.
We didn't even have thatposition before you came.
Yeah, and then it was so sweet.
When he says, um, he wondered,you know, he wondered what he
would do if he was ever and I'mparaphrasing free from holly not
in a bad way, but just hewondered what he would do if you
(22:57):
know, if they ever, if she didcome back right what would
happen?
and if they did get divorced,what would happen?
And then um shane asked himwell, what did you do?
And he said I went and bought aporch swing.
Yeah, and I was like that washim telling her I was so good,
oh, my gosh.
Garry (23:12):
You want to know what that reminds me that was so, so
good that reminded and you gotme watching dawson's creek yes,
and that your favorite, myfavorite scene ever.
You explain it because you doit better than I do.
Amy (23:25):
That's what it reminded you of.
Garry (23:26):
That's what it reminded me of.
Amy (23:27):
So that scene reminded you.
There's a scene in Dawson'sCreek where they're at the
anti-prom.
Garry (23:33):
Right.
Amy (23:33):
And okay, if you've never watched Dawson Creek, go watch
it, Even though it's about youngkids it's so good, so good.
And there's a scene where Paceyand Joey are dancing and Joey's
wearing some earrings thataren't really her.
Garry (23:51):
Right.
Amy (23:52):
They're not really her and he's and Pacey says to her you
know, I don't, I don't thoseearrings aren't you?
They're kind of.
You know, they're too formal.
Garry (24:01):
Right.
Amy (24:02):
And Joey's like well, what you mean?
I can't wear something likethat.
And he goes no, this braceletis you, this is you know this
says who you are.
I know your mom and you love itso much because your mom gave
it to you, or you know.
He goes on this thing and shesays you know, how do you
remember?
You remember that.
And he says I remembereverything.
And I that, and he says Iremember everything and I was
(24:26):
just like oh my gosh, yes, andthat's what it reminded me
that's the scene.
Garry (24:28):
Yeah, oliver remembered the conversation right right I
mean, how cool is oliverremembers, I think everything,
everything he's got like aphotographic memory.
I just love his character.
Amy (24:36):
He's like this old soul and this you know younger man's
body, not like a teenager, butjust you know, yeah he doesn't
even know what youtube is I knowthat's so funny.
Oh gosh, okay, did you have anymore?
Scenes we could go on forever.
I have so many in my notes butI yeah those were the highlights
what about biggest cheer?
(24:57):
All right um Do you?
Want me to go, or do you wantto go?
I'll do it.
Okay, you go first.
Garry (25:05):
He didn't stay with Holly , that was my biggest cheer.
Amy (25:08):
Oh, that was your biggest cheer I did yeah.
Garry (25:11):
You know, from watching To the Moon and Back, you know
he doesn't stay with her.
But I thought that was cool andI loved how it was mutual.
You know, I'm glad it wasn'tone wanted it and one didn't.
Amy (25:22):
That is exactly what I have as one of my big cheers too.
I'm so glad they did it thatway.
Yes, yes.
Garry (25:28):
And boy, when Shane was looking in the window and saying
don't kiss her, don't kiss her.
Amy (25:33):
And then they kissed and they kissed and oof Right.
Garry (25:37):
Another scene Right.
Amy (25:39):
Right, Tear up, Well, and then you think about Shane and
how she is going off topic alittle bit, but I have to
discuss it.
How she, you know she finds theletter that Oliver wrote.
It never got delivered to Parisand she knows she shouldn't
read it, but she's dying to readit.
So she has Rita come with herand Rita opens it and reads it
(25:59):
or it's already open, I forget.
And then there's this wholelike she's torn.
She should give it to him.
They need to mail it because itshould go to her, but Shane
doesn't.
You can tell she's torn, shedoesn't want to, but she does
the right thing, right, becauseit really should go to her, and
yeah so.
Garry (26:17):
Yeah, what about you?
Amy (26:19):
That's along one of my first biggest cheers the
relationship developments andemphasis on how important
communication is yeah, right, sowe had the.
Yeah, I mean I love that theydidn't have oliver and holly as
enemies like you mentioned.
They didn't make holly thisevil person right and I really
loved that they wrapped up thatstoryline.
It didn't drag on for the forthe rest of the movies it didn't
(26:39):
.
They didn't drag it out and itwas.
It was mutual I mean, had itbeen a year before?
You know, I think he reallywanted her back.
But I think when they had theirdinner and their discussion and
he's she's like you know, doyou?
I forget exactly what she says,Like do you still want to be
married, do you want to getdivorced?
And he's like I want answers.
Like I want to know why youleft I you owe me that
(27:00):
explanation, but it wasn't in aharsh way, it was just like we
need to talk about it because Ineed to move forward so I really
, really like that.
I you know the fact that we sawnorman jealous but finally
opening up more and ritaadmitting her feelings yeah,
like I just discussed, thebiggest cheer too was shane.
She could have gotten rid ofthat dead letter to holly.
(27:21):
Never sent it, but she does theright thing.
And of course, you know we havejoey and katie's storyline
where joey you know he was goingto divorce katie because he
thought she was seeing someoneelse and again.
This is where the communicationcomes in and instead of talking
to her about it, right, he'sgoing to divorce her, but the
(27:41):
divorce letters get lost he getsinjured, katie and him fall
more in love than they ever werebefore, even though they had
kind of gotten lost.
Um for a bit and um yeah.
So if he would have justcommunicated it and then you
find out she was actuallytalking to somebody she was the
owner to ken, yeah or the ownerof the comedy, and she wanted to
(28:04):
do stand-up comedy.
To make him laugh, but Joeydoesn't know that.
So I just thought that you knowtheir storyline really worked
in there too, and it was aboutcommunication.
And had they communicated?
Garry (28:15):
that at the time he wouldn't have sent the letter.
Amy (28:18):
You know there wouldn't have been the need for that, so
I thought that really worked.
Garry (28:21):
Yeah, the parallels were spot on, and one of the other
things that I noticed was what'shis name?
Joey.
He mailed it on accidentbecause somebody was getting
carjacked Right.
And he got beat near death.
Amy (28:36):
Right, that's what brought them back together.
Garry (28:37):
Oliver was in the bank vault near death.
Amy (28:40):
Oh, that's a good point when he wrote that.
Garry (28:42):
So I thought that was a good parallel between the two
stories.
Amy (28:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Between the two.
That was pretty cool.
Yeah, the flashback momentswere really good too.
Garry (28:49):
Really good.
Amy (28:49):
Really good too, and one of my other cheers was the full
circle moment of the dance moves.
Yes so the dance moves are partof the series right, where
Oliver learns to dance becausehis wife always wanted him to.
Garry (29:02):
With Shane Well.
She dances.
He learns it with Shane Well.
Amy (29:06):
Holly always wanted Oliver to learn how to dance.
And he's dancing, and then hispartner.
Right, Doesn't something happento his partner?
Garry (29:13):
Yeah, something happens to her.
Amy (29:15):
And then Shane steps in and does the dance moves.
And then in the scene whereOliver and his well, his
soon-to-be ex, where they havedinner, and then they do dance
and Holly is impressed that hefinally learned to dance she
always wanted him to and they'redoing the moves that he had
done with Shane.
Garry (29:33):
I know, and that's what she sees in the window Sad, yeah
, yeah.
Amy (29:37):
So do you have any other cheers?
Garry (29:39):
Yeah, I like Ramon, just constantly makes me smile.
Amy (29:44):
I know he really does.
Garry (29:47):
He was a cliff diver.
Amy (29:48):
Yes, they brought that up too.
Doesn't Shane say, you were acliff diver you?
Garry (29:52):
weren't a cliff diver, he goes yes.
I was, and she goes well,that's dangerous.
And then he says once we facethe things we fear, they no
longer have power over us.
Amy (30:02):
Oh, that's good, and then he goes, no they no longer have
power over us, oh that's.
And then he goes no like right,right no, I thought that was
very powerful.
Garry (30:10):
That was really good.
Yeah, he's a good character.
He's such a good character inthese movies I love it.
Amy (30:14):
Oh gosh, I know I can't wait to see what they have him
do next so did you have anyjeers?
um no, I have one more cheer oh,you have one more cheer, okay
and this is mainly about and youmentioned this earlier and
they're all're all in the.
Jeff Gustafson is really goodat this too, but Eric Mabeus is
so good at showing withoutspeaking a word.
Yes, his facial expressions are, I mean.
(30:36):
We loved him.
I loved him in Ugly Betty, butthis just really gives a much
deeper look into his actingchops.
I mean, I think he is so good.
Garry (30:46):
I'm surprised he's not doing, you know, movies like
movie movies.
Amy (30:50):
Like I said, his facial expressions say everything
without a word being spoken andI just that is.
That is just a huge cheer fromme.
So, and there's so many timesin this one, especially where he
kind of gets, he's looking andhe gets teared up or he smiles-
because something really touches.
It's just so good yeah, it is I.
Garry (31:09):
I agree with you I'm going away, so did you have any
jeers?
Amy (31:12):
I did not me either.
I didn't I I literally wastrying to think what am I gonna
say?
Is a jeer and I I couldn'tthink of anything.
I just, you know, like wetalked about, and I really liked
Holly's character.
Right you know she was trying tofind herself too.
I like that they.
And then she said you know shewas going to come back sooner,
(31:35):
but then it just got harder tocome back.
So you understand a little bitmore from her, like I wanted to,
but then it just seemed like itwas too long and too, much, and
you know so, and she had herown journey of what she wanted
to do, and you know, and then Ijust okay, so I love it.
Garry (31:51):
One of the interesting things watching her throughout
this movie was she kind ofsounded to me like an actress
from the fifties or sixties.
Yeah, how they were so Wellthey played it like that.
Right, they played like the old, so I didn't know if you call
it that movies or something, yes, where the woman walks in with
(32:12):
the heels and yeah, she was likeollie.
You know, I don't know how toexplain it, but it was very good
.
It's very, it's very much gotthe and that's kind of oliver
right like he's an old soul anduh, yeah, yeah and just one more
thing, oliver, walking aroundthe city every movie yes.
Amy (32:23):
I had that in my notes too, he's always walking somewhere.
Yeah, yeah.
So, Out of five corks, how manydo you give it?
Garry (32:31):
I want to give it a five.
Amy (32:33):
I want to give it a ten.
Yes, no, I'll give it a five.
Garry (32:35):
I want to give it a five.
Amy (32:36):
It's got to be five.
Garry (32:40):
Yes, I don't know it, just the acting is good.
No green screens.
No green screens, all good.
It was great, all good.
So is it, and you give it afive too.
Amy (32:48):
I give it a five corks.
Garry (32:49):
All right, so is that a wrap.
Amy (32:51):
That's a wrap.
Garry (32:52):
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Amy (33:06):
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Garry (33:27):
Cheers.
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Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.