July 20, 2025 • 45 mins
In this episode of Pour The Wine, It’s Rom-Com Time, Garry and Amy take a heartfelt dive into Hallmark’s Signed, Sealed, Delivered: The Impossible Dream. The Postables leave the comfort of the Dead Letter Office behind as they testify before Congress in the case of a soldier missing in Afghanistan. As timelines and locations intertwine, the team deciphers a mysterious message that just might hold the key to a daring rescue. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to the series, this gripping episode reminds us that sometimes, a single letter can change everything.
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Amy (00:08):
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It's been like 100 degreesevery day.
Garry (00:23):
Yes, it has been.
Amy (00:25):
Kind of getting over it.
I know I'm running for fall,but I know I'll miss it when
it's, you know, 20 degrees, butright now it's been a lot.
Garry (00:31):
I know.
Amy (00:39):
I thought it was Christmas in July, isn't it supposed to be
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No, just kidding Already her.
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Amy (01:08):
Shoot us an email and let us know your thoughts about
anything that's going on onHallmark right now.
We're in Christmas in July, soanything Christmas in July.
Today we're going to bereviewing a Signed, sealed,
delivered movie, so maybe youhave thoughts about the Signed,
sealed, delivered canon thatyou'd like to share.
Yes, please do.
Please do, yes.
Garry (01:27):
And speaking about the Signed, sealed Delivered canon,
we've been working our waythrough the Signed, sealed,
delivered canon.
Yes, we have, and today we'rereviewing the Impossible Dream
that first aired on October 4th2014.
Amy (01:40):
Wow so 11 years ago.
Well, almost 11 years ago right.
Garry (01:44):
Yeah, and I still can't believe I didn't watch this back
then.
Amy (01:46):
I know, we sure did not, but we're doing it now.
Yeah, so tell us who is in thisone, well, our returning
favorites, the Postables.
So what we're?
Garry (02:00):
going to do is.
Amy (02:01):
I'll talk about the cast that's in this one.
Excuse you, frog in my throatagain.
Garry (02:03):
This one tearing you up.
Amy (02:04):
It's tearing me up.
Already We've mentioned thefour postables before.
We've talked about their workin previous episodes, so if
you'd like to hear more aboutthem, you can go to To the Moon
and Back, or For Christmas.
I think we cover each of themin those, but we didn't want to
(02:27):
make it too long and repeat them, so we don't.
So, returning our Eric Mabeushe plays Oliver O'Toole.
Of course.
Kristen Booth plays ShaneMcInerney.
Garry (02:39):
That one's a little bit hard for you.
I'm sorry I was taking a sip ofthat.
Amy (02:42):
You almost spit out your wine, when I said that you
always have a hard for you.
Garry (02:46):
I'm sorry, I was taking a sip of that you almost spit out
your wine.
Amy (02:47):
When I said that Sometimes I do wish we had video because
it is good, you literally almostspit out your wine.
All right, anywho, I know thatlast name gets me every time.
Crystal Lowe plays RitaHayworth.
Jeff Gustafson plays Norman.
Also returning this episode isZach Santiago as Ramon Rodriguez
.
And from Truth Be Told.
(03:08):
This is a continuation of TruthBe Told, which we did not know
when we first started watchingit.
Garry (03:13):
No, we didn't.
Amy (03:14):
Megan Carpenter plays Phoebe Amidon and William B
Davis plays Harper and Phoebe.
It's Phoebe's mom who is MIAmissing right in Afghanistan and
presumed dead.
They feel confident that shedid not survive right and Harper
(03:34):
is the lieutenant's father, soMegan's the daughter and
Harper's the father.
Also in the Impossible Dream isMark Bally.
He plays Steve Merrick.
His other hallmark workincludes Signed, Sealed,
Delivered Higher Ground in 2017,which I think we're a few
movies away from in the canonthe Emma Fielding Mystery is
(03:57):
More Bitter Than Death in 2019.
And some of his other workincludes Bride Hard, which was
just out this year, in 2025.
One episode of the Flash in2018.
He was in seven episodes ofGirlfriend's Guide to Divorce
Wow Between 2015 and 2017.
The series Harry's Law 22episodes Between 2011 and 2012,.
(04:24):
12 episodes of Fringe, which welike, between 2008 and 2009.
12 episodes of Fringe, which welike, between 2008 and 2009.
And he's largely known forplaying Jack Dubrow for 338
episodes in Days of Our Livesbetween 1994 and 1997.
Garry (04:34):
A lot of these guys and gals came from soap operas.
Amy (04:38):
Tammy Gillis plays Randy Lynn Amidon.
She is the lieutenant who ismissing, currently missing.
She's done a ton of Hallmarkwork, including the prequel to
this.
Truth Be Told in 2015.
Curious Caterer Forbidden Fruitin 2024.
Garry (04:53):
Right.
Amy (04:54):
Two episodes of Chesapeake Shores in 2022.
Poisoned in Paradise, aMartha's Vineyard mystery, in
2021.
And Mar marrying Mr Darcy in2018.
Some of her other work includesmurder in a small town for an
episode in 2024.
She was in the TV series sirenfor 16 episodes between 2018 and
(05:16):
2020.
The movie once upon a time in2016 and girlfriend's guide to
divorce in 2014.
I believe just an episode there.
Cool.
Christina Bianco plays Mindy.
She is one of Rita's fellowcontestants in the Miss special
delivery pageant.
This is her Hallmark premiere.
(05:37):
She has 10 acting credits,including one episode of
annoyingly fit neighbor in 2021.
I like that title.
The podcast series the Balladof Anne and Mary between 2021
and 2024, and she voiced therole of Anne.
And she was also in a seriescalled Impress Me for nine
episodes in 2015.
Garry (05:58):
Okay.
Amy (05:59):
Karen Konoval plays the chairwoman.
Her other hallmark workincludes three episodes of when
Call calls the heart between2015 and 2023.
The christmas secret and garagesale mystery all that glitters
in 2014, oh wow.
Some of her other work in hernearly 150 acting credits
includes I know it goes way backwild card six episodes in 2024
(06:22):
and 2025.
The tv series snow Snowpiercer,which I'd never heard of.
Garry (06:27):
Me neither.
Amy (06:27):
She was in 30 episodes of that between 2020 and 2024.
The Good Doctor she was in 13episodes between 2018 and 2020.
Garry (06:36):
I remember her in that.
Amy (06:37):
She was in.
Yeah, that's right, that's whatwe recognize her from the
Planet of the Apes movies Riseof the Planet of the Apes in
2011.
Dawn of the Planet of the apesmovies rise of the planet of the
apes in 2011.
Dawn of the planet of the apesin 2014, war for planet of the
apes and kingdom of the planetof the apes, and she was in
three episodes of 21 jump street.
Garry (06:55):
oh, between 1987 and 1991 you do I think so, if I saw the
character memory there.
Amy (07:01):
Fred hend Henderson plays the senator from Illinois and
these two last actors that Imentioned, they're part of the
committee Right In Congress.
Garry (07:11):
The congressional committee.
Amy (07:13):
Hallmark fans will definitely recognize him.
He's done a ton of Hallmarkwork.
He was in several each year.
Going back to like 2018 or so.
He had like two or three eachyear, right, 2018.
Going back to like 2018 or so,we had like two or three each
year in 2018.
He was in Christmas on CherryLane, mystery on Mistletoe Lane
and Fourth Down in Love in 2023.
He was in one episode ofChesapeake Shores and the movie
(07:34):
Campfire Christmas in 2022.
Some of his other 156 actingcredits include which we will
not go over all of them Supermanand Lois, two episodes between
2021 and 24.
It was in three episodes ofRiverdale between 2019 and 2021.
And he was in Final Destination2.
Okay, in 2003.
(07:54):
And another one of those justdropped this year, right?
Garry (07:57):
Yes, I believe so Just relatively recently.
Amy (07:59):
I think Crystal Lowe was in it.
Garry (08:00):
Oh yeah, she was in the latest.
Amy (08:02):
That's right.
I don't know if it's four orfive, I don't know.
There was a lot.
He too was in one episode of 21Jump Street in 1990.
Garry (08:10):
Going all the way back it's amazing these characters
are in some of the same oractors in some of the same shows
, so is it time to drop thesynopsis.
Amy (08:21):
It is time to drop the synopsis.
Garry (08:23):
Okay, the DLO postals give testimony before a closed
congressional committeeregarding an American soldier
missing in action and presumeddead, whose daughter they met
previously.
At the same time, ritaparticipates in the National
Miss Special Delivery Pageant.
Amy (08:40):
Yes, Bum bum, bum, Bum, bum bum, and we have a spoiler
alert Now.
To be fair, it is almost 11years old, so I feel like we.
So we are going to talk aboutthis movie, so if you have not
seen it, push pause on ourpodcast go watch it and then
come back, because there will bespoilers in this episode we
(09:02):
can't help it.
We can't help it.
But, like I said, I mean it's11 years old, 11 years old,
almost 11 years, so we're goodOkay.
I think we're good.
Garry (09:09):
All right, so I don't know here.
Amy (09:14):
Ooh, ooh.
So I think I think it's fair tosay that we would love to go
scene by scene by scene by sceneand talk about everything.
There is so much in each movie.
There are so many nuances, somany details that we could go
into and I mean we would betalking for like three hours.
(09:35):
So we try to strict to or stickto, not strict to stick to.
Um, you know just a few things.
We talk about our firstimpressions, our favorite scenes
.
Yes, our cheers and our cheersand our jeers and just know that
if we leave something out, it'snot because we don't think it's
important, it's that becausethere's so much and if we could
(09:57):
we would talk about everything.
I mean, I think I have like 10pages of notes on this
particular movie and I neverhave that many yes, on anything
outside of the science fielddelivery.
I have like 10 pages of noteson this particular movie and I
never have that many on anythingoutside of the science field
delivery.
You know we do other movies,other Hallmark movies and TV
series and my notes are reallyextensive on these, but we can't
possibly cover it all, sothat's just a little.
That's a disclaimer.
Garry (10:19):
There you go so before we start what do you think?
What was your first take onthis one?
Oh, my goodness, Take a deepbreath While you're doing that.
I'm going to take a sip.
Amy (10:28):
Are you going to take a sip ?
How about if I take a sip first, you take?
Garry (10:30):
a sip first, because, man , there's a lot to go on on this
one.
Amy (10:35):
All right.
So my first take, my firstimpression.
I've mentioned before how eachmovie brilliantly navigates the
parallels between the lostletter story and the lives of
the postables.
So usually there's just a lotgoing on.
So in this movie the weaving ofthe story was fantastic.
Except this time we don't havethe letter initially Right, we
(11:00):
don't know it.
Yet we have it.
What like halfway through, Idon't even know, maybe midway
through Right, they have it.
What like halfway through, Idon't even know what, maybe mid
to three quarter, maybe midwaythrough Right they discuss it.
Don't quote me, don't come at me.
I can't remember exactly whenit came in, but it's not at the
beginning, like we normally seethese movies, right?
So this story is navigatingbetween the present day and a
(11:20):
few days prior, in both theUnited States and Afghanistan,
right, right, so there's just,there's a lot going on, and even
with a slight you know changeof the way the story is
delivered, all the signature,signed, sealed, delivered
elements are there, right?
So we have the mystery, we havethe dead letter eventually show
(11:41):
up, the postables areinvestigating, but in the
meantime we get that peek intotheir personal lives and
relationships yeah so I just Ithink it's so good.
I mean, and you and I talkedabout this, we did not know it
was going to be a continuation.
Of truth be told, yep, um, andI'd be curious at the time when
they released it.
I can't remember.
(12:01):
I think, truth be told, maybeyou aired about a month before
this one.
I'd have to look at the dates.
I'm not 100 certain about that,but, um, wait a minute what I
just realized I made a mistake.
You made a mistake.
The impossible dream actuallyaired in 2015.
Garry (12:19):
Oh, so I was saying.
Amy (12:20):
I've been saying 2014 and 11 years.
So it's it was.
It was October 4th of 2015.
I'm sorry, that is completelymy mistake.
So it aired almost 10 years ago, right, right, and, truth be
told, aired, I believe, about amonth before it, same year, 2015
.
Right, right, right, not to beconfused.
Garry (12:40):
That's OK.
You know, the post-al Forcewould have corrected us.
I know, I know.
I'm so sorry.
That's a good catch.
That's a good catch, no.
Amy (12:47):
So we're talking about 2015 .
Garry (12:50):
Yes.
Amy (12:51):
Anyway.
So, as I mentioned, you know,the storytelling was a little
bit different, just because theydidn't start, you know, with
the letter Right, right, I lovedit.
I loved the congressionalcommittee hearing and how each
one of the core four had asection to talk about.
Garry (13:04):
Yes.
Amy (13:05):
How they went, you know Oliver to Shane, to Rita, to
Norman.
Garry (13:10):
Yes, and Steve piped in a little bit.
Amy (13:13):
I really loved that.
I loved that we got to seeSteve Yep.
You know he's the birthday cardsender from Truth Be Told.
Garry (13:22):
Yep.
Amy (13:22):
Right and they kind of put that to bed.
I like that.
They wrap things up.
There's no like that, we know.
I mean, we know he's going tobe in another one coming up,
which I just talked about, butat least we know, you know, at
least they kind of wrap that upRight A little bit.
So I like that.
Then, of course, you have themystery of whether you know,
(13:45):
lieutenant, is it Amidon, amidon?
Garry (13:48):
Amidon.
Amy (13:49):
Randy Lynn is still alive, and then the clue she gives to
her possible rescue.
All of that was so well done.
And you know, you and I, welive in a military town, we live
in an area.
You've lived here your wholelife.
You know, I've lived here, youknow, for over 25 years, so
we've known many, many, many whohave served, we've known people
(14:10):
who are serving and we knowpeople who have lost loved ones,
especially in the war inAfghanistan.
So this really hit close to homefor us and there's similarities
between you know some peoplethat we know and their loved
ones, and how they did notsurvive and it's just a little.
Yeah, it was.
It was very emotional.
So, that was my first take.
What about you?
Garry (14:31):
That was a big first take , sorry, sorry.
Amy (14:33):
I know this.
Like I said, this would be likean hour long.
Garry (14:36):
I don't even know where to begin, because there was so
many things going on throughthis throughout this movie,
right, but on throughout thismovie, right.
But yet the director and thewriter wove this thing perfectly
together.
Man, they did I mean.
They did I just I mean you talkabout being at the right place
at the right time, becausethere's a lot of like symbolisms
in here.
Yes, it's funny how all thecharacters ended up at the hotel
(14:59):
in DC right around the sametime.
Amy (15:01):
So you're talking about the postables and Harper?
Well, Steve was already there.
Well, he.
Garry (15:09):
Shane reached out to him Right, so he ends up there.
Amy (15:11):
But Harper and Phoebe the grandpa and his granddaughter
His daughter is the one who'smissing Right.
Garry (15:18):
Right, and I just feel like.
Amy (15:21):
Well, oliver says there are no coincidences.
Right, exactly.
Garry (15:25):
But just think.
Well, oliver says there are nocoincidences.
Right, exactly.
But just think about thedifferent stories that were
going on.
You had Randy Lynn missing, youhad Shane and Steve's thing
going on, you had Shane andOliver, you had Rita and the
pageant, rita and Norman, andthen you had the committee.
So there was a lot of thingsgoing on at once there were.
And man, I just, I really,really enjoyed this thing.
(15:46):
So that's where I'm at.
Amy (15:49):
That's where you're at, I know it's.
It's a lot to talk aboutthere's.
There are so many things goingon and we'll probably get into
it a little bit when we get into, like, favorite scenes and all
that jazz, but there's so manythings to talk about oh yeah, I
mean, and I also want to talkabout the rock the rock, yes,
the symbolism of the rock, yes.
Now, or you want to hold off.
Is that like a scene?
(16:10):
Is that a cheer?
Is that?
Where's that for you?
Garry (16:12):
let's we'll talk about it when it actually shows up in
each when it shows up I think itshows up like four times okay,
all right.
Amy (16:19):
Well, you can all right, yeah sounds good.
Garry (16:21):
I'll try to remember, all right let dive.
Amy (16:22):
You want to dive into favorite scenes?
Yes, go, tell us, I would startout of the gate towards the
beginning.
It's not the very opening scene, but when the postables are
walking down the halls ofCongress and they're playing
science, he'll deliver it I justlove the slow-mo of that
hallway which is so cool, so Ithat was one of my favorite
(16:43):
scenes just that bit but whatwas funny is norman walks into
the.
Garry (16:47):
Uh, there's a flagpole and norman walks into it, so
they're all serious and cool andhe walks into it and he's like
oh, wait a minute, where'd youcome from?
Amy (16:56):
flag so it was just a great way to start with them of
course it starts off moreserious in Afghanistan.
Garry (17:03):
So that was one of my favorites, yeah, when they were
going to to the subcommitteemeeting.
Amy (17:09):
Do you want me to do a couple?
Garry (17:10):
or how do you want to do a couple yeah?
Amy (17:12):
The next one would be.
So they, you find out they'resitting in front of Congress
right For a committee meeting.
But then in the in one of theflashbacks in the DLO, it's
Oliver and Shane and Oliver.
Oliver has his color-codedfolders for each person for
their schedule.
And it's just so him, becauseof course he does right, so he
(17:33):
shows them to Shane and he kindof you know, is kind of like you
know, hey, maybe you know.
No, he asked her about herboyfriend.
Is there a boyfriend?
that you want to meet up with,you know, or something.
So then he talks about howthey're going to go to the
postal museum and then she asksif she can add a stop in, and
he's kind of like I've alreadydone the schedule.
Right you know he kind of is alittle bit shocked.
(17:55):
And then Norman comes in withthe shades on and they're ready
to go to DC and I just thoughtthat whole scene worked.
I, I loved that scene yeah,that was it.
Garry (18:02):
That was a really good scene.
Amy (18:04):
I had that down too did you really for one year?
Yeah, yeah, that's so.
Yeah, the same, we like it.
Yeah, what about you?
Garry (18:11):
okay, one of mine was the the first scene, uh, with uh,
randy lynn, when she's beingcaptured the the lieutenant, she
apparently is going to givebirth or not?
Her.
Not her she's going to helpgive birth to Assad's daughters.
Amy (18:29):
Help the daughter give Right.
He said help give birth.
Well, yeah, you're worried Toomuch wine.
Drink some more wine, I know,right, right.
Garry (18:37):
And I'm assuming they're in Afghanistan.
Yeah, and their daughter hasbeen in labor for 15 hours and
this is the first scene where wesee the rock.
So she picks up a rock and shegives it to the daughter and
asad looks at her because and isthat his name asad.
Amy (18:54):
I think it's okay.
Garry (18:55):
Yeah, I missed that asad looks at her and she's like well
, you know, this is one of thesymbolisms.
When you give a rock or acrystal to somebody, you know
some of the things are groundingand stability, emotional
strength, support and connection.
So for me it felt like hold onto this rock.
It's strength Whenever you feelpain.
Amy (19:16):
Just you know, just hold on to it.
Yes.
Garry (19:18):
I'm also here, so you're safe, don't worry about it.
And this is the conversationAssad has with Randy Lynn about.
You don't have much time, butand you pointed this out to me
he he sends the guy the guardoff to get some stuff for the
delivery and in it is a pen andpaper and that's when she writes
(19:43):
the letter.
Amy (19:45):
Right, she sees like the pen or whatever it is, and I
didn't even notice that when youpointed that out, and she's
kind of like huh, you know, andthat's when, yeah, we don't see
her write the letter, but, right, she kind of a light bulb goes
off for her.
Garry (19:59):
Yeah so that's like the first time we see the rock that
you're talking about, rightright, yeah, the symbolism, yeah
, and some of the other onesthat I had was the ones that you
pointed out, but I'll go overthem.
Go ahead and give a couple more.
You want another one?
Okay?
Amy (20:17):
I really liked the scene in Steve's office.
So we find out that Steve is ina clandestine.
Yes, his little office right soI just thought that all worked.
So in the in the office youhave, um, uh, shane, oliver and
rita, right, and they're talkingto steve, and they're talking
(20:37):
about randy lynn, the missinginaction, and they're they're
trying to convince him that theyneed to find her.
I'm kind of fumbling throughthis so then he mentions oh and
in her letter, and they're likeletter, that's where they perk
up.
That's where they perk up right,there's a letter Like letter,
(20:58):
there's a letter.
So then Rita tries to get alook at the letter and he's like
no, no, no, I.
So then, you know, rita triesto get a look at the letter and
he's like no, no, no, I mean, Ijust thought that whole scene,
you know, works and he's like Ican't show her the letter, she
can't see it.
And then you know, oliver sayswell, the letter technically is
addressed to FEBB and we couldsay that that's Phoebe and
that's her daughter.
So it's technically doesn'tbelong to you, it belongs to the
(21:20):
United States Post Office.
Garry (21:22):
I know that was so funny it is.
Amy (21:24):
And then you love the play here because the audience and
Shane and Oliver know that Ritahas a photographic memory.
Garry (21:31):
Yes.
Amy (21:31):
But Steve doesn't know Right, so just a quick glance
for Rita is enough to learnwhat's in the letter.
Garry (21:37):
Isn't that crazy.
Amy (21:38):
I loved that whole.
I thought that whole sceneworked.
Garry (21:41):
Yeah, another one of my favorite scenes was when, rita,
they were doing the rehearsalfor the tap dance scene.
Yes, and she is so off.
Amy (21:50):
Yes, I have this down.
That's my next one.
Yes, yes.
Garry (21:54):
And Norm being, oh, such a gentleman.
When they stop, you know thechoreographer is looking at Rita
like what in the world.
And then Norm goes.
Well, you did great, becauseeverybody else was off.
Amy (22:06):
Yeah, he says everyone else is out of step, but you, I
thought that was so cute.
Oh my gosh, that was so cute.
And she's like oh, you know,she's just so.
Garry (22:15):
He's a man after my own heart.
Amy (22:16):
Yes, yes, yes, that was so nice.
Garry (22:19):
So that was another one of mine.
Amy (22:20):
Do you have?
Another one For me.
I would say the scene betweenShane and Steve when they're
outside.
Steve is trying to convinceShane that he's now made.
Dc his home and that's where heis all the time.
And she says home is more thanan address, it's a porch swing.
Yes, and she goes on to otherthings.
Garry (22:38):
She says other things.
Amy (22:39):
But I thought, and he's like I'll buy you a porch swing,
and she's like I already haveone, I know, Like dude, and that
was so.
So she's like telling youwithout telling you that she's
into Oliver, you know.
And then is that, that's thescene where he comes out.
Yes, Now did he see them kissor not?
I don't know.
Garry (22:55):
Well, the scene cuts so fast, we'll have to ask the
postables.
Amy (23:03):
He's already through the door and probably 10 feet out of
the door.
Oh, so you don't think hewalked out after the kiss?
Garry (23:05):
I don't know if he saw it but you just have to assume,
maybe he did.
Amy (23:09):
Yeah, I don't know.
Garry (23:10):
But he took it like a man .
Yeah, he took it like a champ.
Amy (23:13):
Yeah, if he did.
Garry (23:14):
Yeah, and I like that whole scene too, where they were
supposed to have lunch together, all of them, but one by one
they kept dropping off, so itjust ended up being Norman and
Oliver.
And so Shane comes walking upand she's in this orange outfit
and I was like googly eyes overand Shane's smiling, and he
(23:35):
stands up, and then here comesSteve.
Amy (23:37):
Steve.
That was when we first seeSteve.
Garry (23:39):
That was before Picks her up give her a big hug and you
see, oliver, he goes to sit down, but then he stands up again.
Amy (23:45):
And then he goes to sit down and he stands up again.
It's like he doesn't know whatto do.
And that was before the scene Italked about, right?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, thatwas funny.
When he stands, he sits.
Garry (23:52):
He stands, he's like he doesn't and I don't blame him.
Yeah, I don't blame him man,you know.
Yeah.
Amy (24:08):
That was a good scene, yeah , the whole.
You know for me the wholeNorman-Rita exchange during the
Miss Special Delivery pageantwhere Norman has been trying to
give her something, the entiremovie, yes, the entire movie.
And then we finally get to thetalent part of the pageant,
which is towards the end.
And you know he finally givesher the gift and he's just so
excited to give it to her.
He finally thinks that she'sgoing to be so happy and he's
(24:30):
had like a chapter of her bookpublished in the Postal.
Garry (24:36):
What was it?
The Postal?
Amy (24:37):
The Postal Magazine, whatever, sorry, the name of it,
is escaping me right now thePostal Living Quarterly the
Postal.
Living Quarterly, the PostalLiving Quarterly, and he's so
excited and she's like I can'trecite it now because in the
talent show you can't useanything that's published and
paid, right.
And she's like and now I'mpublished and paid and she's
(24:59):
upset, but she's not.
But she's Rita upset, you knowlike I like to call it.
She's not like.
I mean she's upset visibly andshe doesn't know what she's
going to do.
And then she goes out on stageto help her friend Mindy, who is
struggling a little bit, right.
Garry (25:13):
Right.
Amy (25:14):
So she's only upset for a minute because she sees Mindy
struggling and that's her shewants to help, she wants to go
out, right, right, and so shegoes.
Oh, you know, I'll go first,while Mindy you know whatever.
So she starts speaking to thecrowd and she tells them what
she was going to do.
She was going to do a dramaticreading, but she can't.
Yeah.
And then, as she's telling thestory about her story, right,
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she realizes it relates to.
Garry (25:38):
Norman Norman yeah.
Amy (25:39):
Norm you go, Norm Norman.
Yeah, Norm you go.
Norm Norman, Norman Norman.
She realized that it relates tohim.
And then she's like you know,in my story, you know she's
really in love with her.
And then she's like, oh, andthen you see the light bulb go
off.
And she turns off stage andshe's like he's in love with her
and he questions and he shakeshis head.
Garry (25:58):
He's tearing up you know.
So so well done, yeah, so welldone.
Amy (26:11):
Well, it's funny because Ramon had told Norman we haven't
even talked about Ramon.
He's in my chair.
Garry (26:13):
Or told Norman that, rita , she wins.
She's going to be off for ayear shaking hands, meeting new
people.
Amy (26:22):
Yeah, she'd have to do a lot of traveling.
Garry (26:24):
Yeah, he kind of put in norman's head that rita wasn't
coming back.
She was going to forget allabout her that's so, that's why
he printed out that, that onesection I think it was chapter
14 of her book, because hedidn't want her to forget about
them right.
Amy (26:38):
Well, he says I don't want you to forget that you're a
writer right postable, and youknow it was so sweet.
Garry (26:44):
And then that's when Rita .
Chapter 14 was about thecharacter Norman.
The character in the book givesher character a steed and
knowing that, no matter whereshe went, that steed would
always find its way back homeRight and she says something
like I.
Amy (27:00):
Why mystical?
Norman would give her a steedright, and then that's when she.
Garry (27:08):
That's when she realizes, yeah, that he's in love with
her, and then she says it outloud yeah.
Amy (27:13):
Piece of writing it was so, so good, like when norman says
are we having our first fight,you know?
Because he's just so.
Oh my gosh, do you have anyother scenes listed?
What you got.
Garry (27:26):
I have a couple more.
Can we say something aboutMindy's pipes?
Amy (27:29):
Yeah, oh, the way she said that was my next.
That was my next favorite scene.
Garry (27:34):
Oh man.
Amy (27:35):
So she sings it beautifully .
Garry (27:37):
Right and first of all, perfect song, perfect title.
Amy (27:42):
The lyrics were absolute perfection for this.
I mean, it was just perfect forthe movie, for that moment, for
what the postables are doing,just all of it.
Perfect, perfect, perfect.
If you don't know the lyrics tothat song, go look it up.
Garry (27:56):
Yes.
Amy (27:57):
Because it is.
I mean, I don't even know whatto say about it.
And then so she's singing,singing, and then you have
scenes back and forth betweenher singing, you see Shane and
Oliver crying right because theydon't know if a rescue was
happening or not right of thelieutenant they've been, they've
given all the information tothe committee by that point, and
(28:18):
the committee has to make adecision and they don't.
And that, well, they know atthat point that the rescue is
going up.
They don't know right if she'salive or not, and so the song is
so emotional I guess, right andso, and so they're going back,
and then they're also showingafghanistan scenes, right?
Garry (28:33):
so I mean the weaving of that the lyrics and the scenes
that go along.
Yes, it's just, it's so good.
Amy (28:39):
Oh, it's freaking brilliant man.
Oh my gosh, I know we'retearing up and goosebumps and
all the things in that scene.
Garry (28:47):
I know and then she hits that last note, yes, and holds
it.
Amy (28:51):
Yeah.
Garry (28:51):
And then when she stops, the look on Ramon's face was
like Even he was he was.
Amy (28:57):
Yes, he was, and he was kind of tearing, I mean, it was
so moving, so, so it was crazyyeah, but wait, the movie's not
over yet.
After you're emotionallycrushed, I know, I know all
right, so what else you got?
Um any more favorite scenes Ido.
Garry (29:15):
Uh, do you want to talk about?
Well, you go ahead, all right,because I um, I have okay, so
then.
Amy (29:22):
So then, har, harper and Phoebe, they go.
Is it the next day, maybe thenext morning?
I?
Garry (29:27):
think it's the same day?
Amy (29:28):
I'm not sure, but anyway.
So we see Harper and Phoebe aregoing to the airport and they
don't know why.
And Steve is there, thepostables are there, right,
right, they're all there, andHarper, because they don't want
to tell Harper and Phoebeanything.
They didn't want to give themfalse hope.
Garry (29:43):
Right.
Amy (29:44):
Right.
So they say they're there tofly on the what do they call?
It, the jet, the jet orwhatever to give them a chance
to fly on the jet and then-.
Garry (29:52):
That's when Steve comes up.
That's when Steve right andhe's talking to Harper and
Phoebe and he's like you know,look what, the Army Rangers are
flying around the country in nowand then out comes who, who,
the mom?
Amy (30:10):
The mom You're like tearing up, I can't, I know I can't, I
know you can't talk about it.
Yeah, so then we see Randy Lynn.
She comes walking.
Garry (30:21):
He's like tearing up.
I wish we had video he'stearing up, yeah.
Amy (30:25):
So she comes out of the plane, she comes down and then
the daughter Phoebe, goes up toher and that little actress I'm
telling you the tears.
That was like I don't know howshe did that in that moment.
It was so good.
Garry (30:38):
I mean it had been the actress who plays the
lieutenant's daughter goes upand she's just crying and crying
and oh, it's so emotional.
And it was like real.
Amy (30:47):
And then you see For real, for real.
Garry (30:50):
You see Shane and Oliver, they're all hugging and kind of
tearing up.
Amy (30:55):
And you see.
Garry (30:56):
Rita and Norman hugging and tearing up.
They hug and she lets go of therock.
She's hugging Phoebe, she'shugging her grandfather, and
that's the last time you see therock and it's like she lets the
rock go because now she reallyhas her rock, which is her
family, and I thought that wasreally really good.
Amy (31:14):
Powerful, really super powerful.
I thought that was reallyreally good.
Powerful, really super powerful.
And I guess we didn't talkabout when she's escaping Right
During the song.
Yeah, I forgot to bring, or,yeah, that's another time.
You wanted to mention the rock.
Garry (31:31):
Well, saad gives her the rock before he tells her I can't
go any further with you.
You know, wait here two days.
If I don't show up you have towalk.
And one night she squeezes therock.
And again, the symbolism of allthis, the emotional strength.
She's not giving up, she'sgoing to keep going.
And you know, she falls downthe hill, she hurts her legs,
(31:52):
she bandages up and she justkeeps on going.
You know she's got the strength.
Amy (31:56):
And it's for a couple days and it's for a couple days, like
a couple days and nights.
Garry (31:59):
She's by herself and you know they show her squeezing the
rock, and that was the thirdtime that we see the rock and I
found it pretty cool.
They call her Soul Sister.
Amy (32:12):
Soul Sister.
Yes, sister, soul sister.
Yes, that was her code name,right, that's their code name
for her.
Yes, I thought that was cool.
Garry (32:18):
Yes, scene when she sees those helicopters coming over
the mountains and they'replaying america, the beautiful
yes, right, oh, because she'ssaying that to her daughter.
I mean, there's so many thingswe could talk about yes, I mean
I couldn't.
I know I know so, but you'reright, that was.
Was there anything else?
Did you?
You have any?
Amy (32:34):
more, just the last scene.
They're headed to the airportand Oliver says we have an extra
stop.
We have, yes, and then they goto.
We didn't even talk aboutShane's house.
She went to see her house in DCthat she grew up in and they
had torn it down.
It wasn't there anymore, right.
And that was emotional forShane.
Garry (32:52):
Mm-hmm.
Amy (32:58):
Shane.
That was at the very beginningof the movie and then at the end
.
Oliver has this inheritancefrom his biological father and
he has created a foundation andhe surprises Shane with the
McInerney home for retiredpostal workers and she's like
it'll be a small house and he'slike we can make it bigger can
make it bigger and then he saysum, does he say something about
(33:18):
a porch and a swing?
Garry (33:19):
yes, like doesn't he say something?
It'll have a porch in a swing.
Amy (33:22):
It'll have a porch in a swing and I was like oh, and
then norman goes.
Garry (33:26):
Do we all have to move here with his crazy expressions?
I love him so much?
Amy (33:32):
and then he says can I have a workshop or a laboratory here
?
Garry (33:35):
and he says something about some kind of atom smasher
thing, and she's like no, norman, you can't have that.
Amy (33:41):
And Shane is just she's just really, really touched and
it was just a really great lastscene, right.
And then just wrapped it all up.
Garry (33:49):
And what put the cherry on top of that one is Oliver
pulling out the rose.
Amy (33:52):
Yes.
Garry (34:02):
Because she had told him when they first got there at the
beginning of the movie that hermom cut the last rose of summer
right and kept it fresh andthen planted it for the first
rose of summer, and he did theexact same thing for her, so she
was like, like her heart.
Yeah is the man yeah, and Idon't know, it was just
brilliantly written.
Amy (34:15):
It really really was.
It really really was, I mean,we could talk about every scene
in detail.
All right, Biggest cheers.
Garry (34:23):
I just love how Oliver gives those pep talks to.
Amy (34:26):
Norm.
Garry (34:26):
Yes, I have that as one of my cheers, not just Norm, but
to the whole crew.
He just picks them up, yes, andI mean he's got these little
Like one-lin up.
Yes, and I mean he's got theselittle like one liners.
And you know, god brought ushere to do a lot of little
things, yes, or we went througha lot of little things to get
here.
It's not just about the bigpicture, and when Norm was
(34:48):
talking about you know why do wecare about the little umbrellas
and the drinks or the little,you know, animals in the drinks,
and Oliver was pretty much likewe're not forgetting the big
picture, but it's the littleones that keep us going.
Amy (35:02):
Those are the two exact things that I have as my cheer.
I was saying we need a sectionof Oliver quotes.
Garry (35:08):
We do Quotes of wisdom.
You know what we're going tostart doing that.
Amy (35:10):
Because the quote that you're talking about was
something like because Norman islike oh, everything else is so
trivial, we need to get you knowthe lieutenant home like
everything else seems so trivial, and that's when Oliver says
that the missed delivery pageantis perhaps not an event of
great import to the world atlarge, but the world is
(35:31):
complicated and so much of itcan be ugly.
That's why it is beautiful, andthat's why what is beautiful
and gentle is worth fighting topreserve, yes, and also why we
honor those who fight.
And that's so significantbecause you do feel like, oh, I
shouldn't be enjoying this, butyou should, but you should be.
It's okay if other stuff isgoing on in the world or in your
(35:53):
life, or it's okay to enjoy thesmaller moments, the things
that seem trivial.
I mean, yeah, and the bigpicture, you know, yeah, but you
, you have to enjoy it.
And he also says you know, andthat's why we honor those who
fight, that's how we honor thosewho fight is enjoying our
freedom, enjoying the specialthings, enjoying the happy
moments.
And then the other quote thatyou were talking about is, he
(36:16):
said to Shane I think we werecalled to be a part of a lot of
little miracles that had tohappen to get this far.
Yes, that's what you know yeah,I wrote those down as my true.
Garry (36:25):
Yeah, we're on the same.
Amy (36:26):
We're on the same page, but we need a section that's like
all of our quotes and then ourpodcast will be two hours long.
Garry (36:31):
I know, I know it's hard, but no, I had that same thing.
I know I know it's hard, but no.
Amy (36:33):
I had that same thing.
Garry (36:35):
So did you have any other ?
Amy (36:37):
cheers, cheers.
We've already talked about itthe storytelling, the way each
one of the postables has a turnin the hearing.
Yes, you know, oliver starts,he's followed by Shane, and they
each give their part of thestory, then Rita, then Norman.
Right you know each part oftheir story.
I know each part of their storyand I won't go into detail
because I know we're Right.
I loved the running parallelstorylines of Norma and Rita and
(37:01):
Shane and Oliver.
Yes, because, like you said,they were supposed to all have
lunch together and then thingshappen and they don't.
Garry (37:07):
Mm-hmm.
Amy (37:08):
And Norman and Rita are supposed to go to dinner
together and Shane and Oliver,separately, are supposed to go
to dinner together and thatdoesn't happen yeah.
You know, and they both, youknow, like Norman's a little
jealous of Ramon.
Garry (37:21):
Right.
Amy (37:22):
And Oliver's a little jealous of Steve.
Yeah, you know, it was like aparallel universe, and that's
what's so brilliant about this.
Yes, yes, what about you?
Any other?
Garry (37:30):
I'm just glad.
So they closed two chapters.
So they close two chapters.
So they close Shane and Steve.
We think, we think we don't.
We haven't seen the rest ofthem.
Amy (37:39):
Right, right, but it's a pretty good.
Garry (37:40):
You get an indication of where Shane's mind is, and then
Oliver got to have closure bygoing over to the postal museum
at the Pony Express.
Oh, yes, yes, when his ex-wifeactually left him Right, and
that's a story where Harper metup with him and is like what are
you doing?
And then he tells him the storyabout Randy Lynn falling off
(38:02):
the bed.
Yes, and she couldn't explainto her grandpa or her dad what
happened, so she went on the bedand fell off again.
Amy (38:08):
Fell off again.
Garry (38:09):
Which is ironic, because she fell out of the helicopter.
Amy (38:11):
So that's kind of a Well, yeah, and he said, but Harper
says that she always wanted togo back to the place and figure
it out.
Garry (38:19):
Right why it happened Right.
Amy (38:20):
She wanted to make sense of it.
Yes, yes, so that was.
Garry (38:23):
And.
Amy (38:24):
But yes, it was part of the clue, Right that yeah.
Garry (38:27):
Which that whole letter was as a clue.
Amy (38:33):
I had Ramon as a reporter.
We could just leave it at thatand everybody just having him
back was great.
Garry (38:39):
Another job.
Amy (38:39):
Yeah, yeah.
And then you know the cheers tothe clues.
Garry (38:43):
Yes.
Amy (38:43):
And you sort of you get them throughout the movie.
You don't know what's in theletter yet, but you get them
throughout the movie.
And then the piecing of themtogether.
Like you mentioned, the fourposters.
I don't think I have somethingabout like.
At first they think it'ssomething about the 4th of July,
something about four posters,grim feet and like a Bible verse
.
Right so they're trying to pieceall that together and, like you
(39:04):
said, just how?
Then you find out.
The four poster means the fourposter bed.
She fell off of it.
That's where she fell out ofthe helicopter.
Garry (39:11):
Right 4th of July actually referred to the dog's
liberty right and the dog'sbirthday, which was the 21st.
Amy (39:20):
So that was the day she was going to escape right.
Yes, Right, so even I, yeah, ifwe get these wrong too and that
was sort of Norman's part hepieced all the clues together in
that committee meeting, right?
So then, what are some of theother ones?
The Ramadan is observed withprayer, acts of charity and
fasting, so he is suggestingthat she's choosing to escape.
(39:43):
Escape on the day of fastingright the last day the last day,
the last day around on fastingand that the four post was where
she had been captured.
Garry (39:53):
Yes and yeah.
Amy (39:54):
So the four posts because she fell off the bed right and
then fell yeah, we just and shefell out of the hell.
Garry (39:59):
Yeah, so, and then um the grim feet.
Amy (40:02):
Yes, that pilgrim feet, which is actually part of
america, the beautiful which Idid not know me either I don't
know that whole song, but boyand who sang that?
Was that josh groban.
I meant to look that up.
I don't who sang the rendition.
Garry (40:14):
So there were beautiful songs in this one too, yes.
Amy (40:19):
Good grief.
Do you have any more cheers?
Garry (40:21):
No, let me see, but I do have.
Amy (40:24):
The whole thing is a cheer.
Garry (40:25):
Yeah, well, I do have a jeer.
Okay, what's your jeer?
I just feel, like that wholecommittee, how they look down on
the postables especially whenshe was like okay, task force
DLO, is it the CIA, fbi or NSS?
And Oliver goes USPS.
Amy (40:44):
USPS.
Yeah, she's like what she goes.
Garry (40:46):
He's like we're with the post office.
Well, yeah, that was.
And the look on her face waslike are you serious?
Amy (40:53):
What are you doing here?
What are you doing here?
Why do you even care about?
Garry (40:56):
this and my other thing is I don't like how Steve
thought he could just go upthere and kiss.
Amy (41:02):
Shane, you know what I mean .
Oh okay, you just got a littleproblem with that.
Steve will take a littleliberty with that, huh.
Garry (41:08):
There could have been something with him and you know,
yeah, but it wasn't really.
I don't disagree with that.
Amy (41:12):
I don't disagree with a jeer, but I just that's.
Garry (41:15):
If it was a jeer, that would have been a jeer.
Amy (41:17):
That would have been your jeer.
Garry (41:19):
Yeah.
Amy (41:19):
Yeah, Mine would have been the committee chairwoman asking
why.
Why would the lieutenant send aletter in code?
Garry (41:30):
Yeah, encrypted.
Amy (41:31):
Encrypted?
Yeah Like.
Give clues.
Yeah Like.
Why would she do hello?
Like what do you mean?
Why would she do that?
So that she wouldn't getcaptured?
Garry (41:40):
Or the people that were helping her wouldn't get,
wouldn't get that trouble.
Amy (41:45):
And I mean, I just thought I was like OK, that probably.
I mean I don't know whatsomebody.
Garry (42:02):
Come on, you're a politician.
You should know Well, well,maybe that's why politicians
aren't.
You know, and didn't thesenator say this is why?
And yes, yeah, yes, the onesenator from illinois or
whatever, she didn't want to getanybody else in trouble.
Yeah, especially aside.
Amy (42:09):
So yeah, so that was it for me.
Yeah, I mean, I agree, I thinkI mean there's a.
You know we could go over morequotes and you know when
oliver's like the few, the proud, proud, the postables.
Garry (42:17):
Oh, that was good.
Amy (42:18):
Doesn't he say something about?
I still stand by like postoffice is the best way to.
He says something to Steveabout that?
Garry (42:28):
Yeah, because who was it that said oh, they have postal
service in Afghanistan.
Amy (42:34):
And then Oliver was like yeah, was as a matter of fact,
they have one of the, the better, the best ones, right, yeah,
and it's routed out of cabal orsomething I don't know.
Garry (42:43):
And that's when he said I still stand by.
This is the best way this isthe but.
Amy (42:48):
Yeah, I've always maintained that mail is still
the gold standard of humancommunication.
That's what I knew I'd find iteventually.
Yes, I still maintain that mailis the gold standard.
Oh gosh, Okay.
Garry (43:02):
So, out of five quarks, what would you give this one?
Amy (43:06):
Ten.
I'm not talking about how manypages you printed out.
Garry (43:10):
I'm talking about quarks.
Amy (43:12):
How many pages of notes did you have?
One hundred, one hundred.
Garry (43:15):
There was a lot.
There was a lot.
Amy (43:17):
I would definitely give it a five Me too.
I mean I would be shocked if Igave any Science Zeal delivered
movie less than a five and we'retrying to keep five exclusive.
Yes, but I can't help itbecause the story is so
intricate, yes, and sointertwined with their lives and
the letter, and this oneespecially, was like a
two-parter kind of you know.
(43:38):
Yeah, so I would give it a five.
How about you?
Garry (43:41):
I'm definitely giving it a five Word.
I just I mean the emotions, thegoosebumps, the tears
throughout the whole show.
Yes and again, oliver, actuallyall the cast members they can
just make you cry with just thelook.
Amy (43:55):
And Oliver was so great in this one too, and and Norman,
with their like anger but notsaying anything, their face
showed it and then they'resoftening.
And then Oliver was so proudwhen he did the for Shane, the
house.
You know that.
So, yeah, it's all good, it'sall, it's all really good.
Garry (44:15):
So is that a wrap?
That is a wrap.
Well, thanks's all good.
It's all really good Tearjerker.
So is that a wrap?
That is a wrap.
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(44:38):
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And if we miss something inthis one, you know just it's not
on purpose I have.
Amy (44:40):
I have a lot of pages of notes.
Garry (44:42):
I can't just do them all and, like we said, this thing
would be over an hour long, yeah, so all.
Amy (44:48):
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Garry (00:23):
Yes, it has been.
Amy (00:25):
Kind of getting over it.
I know I'm running for fall,but I know I'll miss it when
it's, you know, 20 degrees, butright now it's been a lot.
Garry (00:31):
I know.
Amy (00:39):
I thought it was Christmas in July, isn't it supposed to be
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No, just kidding Already her.
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anything that's going on onHallmark right now.
We're in Christmas in July, soanything Christmas in July.
Today we're going to bereviewing a Signed, sealed,
delivered movie, so maybe youhave thoughts about the Signed,
sealed, delivered canon thatyou'd like to share.
Yes, please do.
Please do, yes.
Garry (01:27):
And speaking about the Signed, sealed Delivered canon,
we've been working our waythrough the Signed, sealed,
delivered canon.
Yes, we have, and today we'rereviewing the Impossible Dream
that first aired on October 4th2014.
Amy (01:40):
Wow so 11 years ago.
Well, almost 11 years ago right.
Garry (01:44):
Yeah, and I still can't believe I didn't watch this back
then.
Amy (01:46):
I know, we sure did not, but we're doing it now.
Yeah, so tell us who is in thisone, well, our returning
favorites, the Postables.
So what we're?
Garry (02:00):
going to do is.
Amy (02:01):
I'll talk about the cast that's in this one.
Excuse you, frog in my throatagain.
Garry (02:03):
This one tearing you up.
Amy (02:04):
It's tearing me up.
Already We've mentioned thefour postables before.
We've talked about their workin previous episodes, so if
you'd like to hear more aboutthem, you can go to To the Moon
and Back, or For Christmas.
I think we cover each of themin those, but we didn't want to
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make it too long and repeat them, so we don't.
So, returning our Eric Mabeushe plays Oliver O'Toole.
Of course.
Kristen Booth plays ShaneMcInerney.
Garry (02:39):
That one's a little bit hard for you.
I'm sorry I was taking a sip ofthat.
Amy (02:42):
You almost spit out your wine, when I said that you
always have a hard for you.
Garry (02:46):
I'm sorry, I was taking a sip of that you almost spit out
your wine.
Amy (02:47):
When I said that Sometimes I do wish we had video because
it is good, you literally almostspit out your wine.
All right, anywho, I know thatlast name gets me every time.
Crystal Lowe plays RitaHayworth.
Jeff Gustafson plays Norman.
Also returning this episode isZach Santiago as Ramon Rodriguez
.
And from Truth Be Told.
(03:08):
This is a continuation of TruthBe Told, which we did not know
when we first started watchingit.
Garry (03:13):
No, we didn't.
Amy (03:14):
Megan Carpenter plays Phoebe Amidon and William B
Davis plays Harper and Phoebe.
It's Phoebe's mom who is MIAmissing right in Afghanistan and
presumed dead.
They feel confident that shedid not survive right and Harper
(03:34):
is the lieutenant's father, soMegan's the daughter and
Harper's the father.
Also in the Impossible Dream isMark Bally.
He plays Steve Merrick.
His other hallmark workincludes Signed, Sealed,
Delivered Higher Ground in 2017,which I think we're a few
movies away from in the canonthe Emma Fielding Mystery is
(03:57):
More Bitter Than Death in 2019.
And some of his other workincludes Bride Hard, which was
just out this year, in 2025.
One episode of the Flash in2018.
He was in seven episodes ofGirlfriend's Guide to Divorce
Wow Between 2015 and 2017.
The series Harry's Law 22episodes Between 2011 and 2012,.
(04:24):
12 episodes of Fringe, which welike, between 2008 and 2009.
12 episodes of Fringe, which welike, between 2008 and 2009.
And he's largely known forplaying Jack Dubrow for 338
episodes in Days of Our Livesbetween 1994 and 1997.
Garry (04:34):
A lot of these guys and gals came from soap operas.
Amy (04:38):
Tammy Gillis plays Randy Lynn Amidon.
She is the lieutenant who ismissing, currently missing.
She's done a ton of Hallmarkwork, including the prequel to
this.
Truth Be Told in 2015.
Curious Caterer Forbidden Fruitin 2024.
Garry (04:53):
Right.
Amy (04:54):
Two episodes of Chesapeake Shores in 2022.
Poisoned in Paradise, aMartha's Vineyard mystery, in
2021.
And Mar marrying Mr Darcy in2018.
Some of her other work includesmurder in a small town for an
episode in 2024.
She was in the TV series sirenfor 16 episodes between 2018 and
(05:16):
2020.
The movie once upon a time in2016 and girlfriend's guide to
divorce in 2014.
I believe just an episode there.
Cool.
Christina Bianco plays Mindy.
She is one of Rita's fellowcontestants in the Miss special
delivery pageant.
This is her Hallmark premiere.
(05:37):
She has 10 acting credits,including one episode of
annoyingly fit neighbor in 2021.
I like that title.
The podcast series the Balladof Anne and Mary between 2021
and 2024, and she voiced therole of Anne.
And she was also in a seriescalled Impress Me for nine
episodes in 2015.
Garry (05:58):
Okay.
Amy (05:59):
Karen Konoval plays the chairwoman.
Her other hallmark workincludes three episodes of when
Call calls the heart between2015 and 2023.
The christmas secret and garagesale mystery all that glitters
in 2014, oh wow.
Some of her other work in hernearly 150 acting credits
includes I know it goes way backwild card six episodes in 2024
(06:22):
and 2025.
The tv series snow Snowpiercer,which I'd never heard of.
Garry (06:27):
Me neither.
Amy (06:27):
She was in 30 episodes of that between 2020 and 2024.
The Good Doctor she was in 13episodes between 2018 and 2020.
Garry (06:36):
I remember her in that.
Amy (06:37):
She was in.
Yeah, that's right, that's whatwe recognize her from the
Planet of the Apes movies Riseof the Planet of the Apes in
2011.
Dawn of the Planet of the apesmovies rise of the planet of the
apes in 2011.
Dawn of the planet of the apesin 2014, war for planet of the
apes and kingdom of the planetof the apes, and she was in
three episodes of 21 jump street.
Garry (06:55):
oh, between 1987 and 1991 you do I think so, if I saw the
character memory there.
Amy (07:01):
Fred hend Henderson plays the senator from Illinois and
these two last actors that Imentioned, they're part of the
committee Right In Congress.
Garry (07:11):
The congressional committee.
Amy (07:13):
Hallmark fans will definitely recognize him.
He's done a ton of Hallmarkwork.
He was in several each year.
Going back to like 2018 or so.
He had like two or three eachyear, right, 2018.
Going back to like 2018 or so,we had like two or three each
year in 2018.
He was in Christmas on CherryLane, mystery on Mistletoe Lane
and Fourth Down in Love in 2023.
He was in one episode ofChesapeake Shores and the movie
(07:34):
Campfire Christmas in 2022.
Some of his other 156 actingcredits include which we will
not go over all of them Supermanand Lois, two episodes between
2021 and 24.
It was in three episodes ofRiverdale between 2019 and 2021.
And he was in Final Destination2.
Okay, in 2003.
(07:54):
And another one of those justdropped this year, right?
Garry (07:57):
Yes, I believe so Just relatively recently.
Amy (07:59):
I think Crystal Lowe was in it.
Garry (08:00):
Oh yeah, she was in the latest.
Amy (08:02):
That's right.
I don't know if it's four orfive, I don't know.
There was a lot.
He too was in one episode of 21Jump Street in 1990.
Garry (08:10):
Going all the way back it's amazing these characters
are in some of the same oractors in some of the same shows
, so is it time to drop thesynopsis.
Amy (08:21):
It is time to drop the synopsis.
Garry (08:23):
Okay, the DLO postals give testimony before a closed
congressional committeeregarding an American soldier
missing in action and presumeddead, whose daughter they met
previously.
At the same time, ritaparticipates in the National
Miss Special Delivery Pageant.
Amy (08:40):
Yes, Bum bum, bum, Bum, bum bum, and we have a spoiler
alert Now.
To be fair, it is almost 11years old, so I feel like we.
So we are going to talk aboutthis movie, so if you have not
seen it, push pause on ourpodcast go watch it and then
come back, because there will bespoilers in this episode we
(09:02):
can't help it.
We can't help it.
But, like I said, I mean it's11 years old, 11 years old,
almost 11 years, so we're goodOkay.
I think we're good.
Garry (09:09):
All right, so I don't know here.
Amy (09:14):
Ooh, ooh.
So I think I think it's fair tosay that we would love to go
scene by scene by scene by sceneand talk about everything.
There is so much in each movie.
There are so many nuances, somany details that we could go
into and I mean we would betalking for like three hours.
(09:35):
So we try to strict to or stickto, not strict to stick to.
Um, you know just a few things.
We talk about our firstimpressions, our favorite scenes
.
Yes, our cheers and our cheersand our jeers and just know that
if we leave something out, it'snot because we don't think it's
important, it's that becausethere's so much and if we could
(09:57):
we would talk about everything.
I mean, I think I have like 10pages of notes on this
particular movie and I neverhave that many yes, on anything
outside of the science fielddelivery.
I have like 10 pages of noteson this particular movie and I
never have that many on anythingoutside of the science field
delivery.
You know we do other movies,other Hallmark movies and TV
series and my notes are reallyextensive on these, but we can't
possibly cover it all, sothat's just a little.
That's a disclaimer.
Garry (10:19):
There you go so before we start what do you think?
What was your first take onthis one?
Oh, my goodness, Take a deepbreath While you're doing that.
I'm going to take a sip.
Amy (10:28):
Are you going to take a sip ?
How about if I take a sip first, you take?
Garry (10:30):
a sip first, because, man , there's a lot to go on on this
one.
Amy (10:35):
All right.
So my first take, my firstimpression.
I've mentioned before how eachmovie brilliantly navigates the
parallels between the lostletter story and the lives of
the postables.
So usually there's just a lotgoing on.
So in this movie the weaving ofthe story was fantastic.
Except this time we don't havethe letter initially Right, we
(11:00):
don't know it.
Yet we have it.
What like halfway through, Idon't even know, maybe midway
through Right, they have it.
What like halfway through, Idon't even know what, maybe mid
to three quarter, maybe midwaythrough Right they discuss it.
Don't quote me, don't come at me.
I can't remember exactly whenit came in, but it's not at the
beginning, like we normally seethese movies, right?
So this story is navigatingbetween the present day and a
(11:20):
few days prior, in both theUnited States and Afghanistan,
right, right, so there's just,there's a lot going on, and even
with a slight you know changeof the way the story is
delivered, all the signature,signed, sealed, delivered
elements are there, right?
So we have the mystery, we havethe dead letter eventually show
(11:41):
up, the postables areinvestigating, but in the
meantime we get that peek intotheir personal lives and
relationships yeah so I just Ithink it's so good.
I mean, and you and I talkedabout this, we did not know it
was going to be a continuation.
Of truth be told, yep, um, andI'd be curious at the time when
they released it.
I can't remember.
(12:01):
I think, truth be told, maybeyou aired about a month before
this one.
I'd have to look at the dates.
I'm not 100 certain about that,but, um, wait a minute what I
just realized I made a mistake.
You made a mistake.
The impossible dream actuallyaired in 2015.
Garry (12:19):
Oh, so I was saying.
Amy (12:20):
I've been saying 2014 and 11 years.
So it's it was.
It was October 4th of 2015.
I'm sorry, that is completelymy mistake.
So it aired almost 10 years ago, right, right, and, truth be
told, aired, I believe, about amonth before it, same year, 2015
.
Right, right, right, not to beconfused.
Garry (12:40):
That's OK.
You know, the post-al Forcewould have corrected us.
I know, I know.
I'm so sorry.
That's a good catch.
That's a good catch, no.
Amy (12:47):
So we're talking about 2015 .
Garry (12:50):
Yes.
Amy (12:51):
Anyway.
So, as I mentioned, you know,the storytelling was a little
bit different, just because theydidn't start, you know, with
the letter Right, right, I lovedit.
I loved the congressionalcommittee hearing and how each
one of the core four had asection to talk about.
Garry (13:04):
Yes.
Amy (13:05):
How they went, you know Oliver to Shane, to Rita, to
Norman.
Garry (13:10):
Yes, and Steve piped in a little bit.
Amy (13:13):
I really loved that.
I loved that we got to seeSteve Yep.
You know he's the birthday cardsender from Truth Be Told.
Garry (13:22):
Yep.
Amy (13:22):
Right and they kind of put that to bed.
I like that.
They wrap things up.
There's no like that, we know.
I mean, we know he's going tobe in another one coming up,
which I just talked about, butat least we know, you know, at
least they kind of wrap that upRight A little bit.
So I like that.
Then, of course, you have themystery of whether you know,
(13:45):
lieutenant, is it Amidon, amidon?
Garry (13:48):
Amidon.
Amy (13:49):
Randy Lynn is still alive, and then the clue she gives to
her possible rescue.
All of that was so well done.
And you know, you and I, welive in a military town, we live
in an area.
You've lived here your wholelife.
You know, I've lived here, youknow, for over 25 years, so
we've known many, many, many whohave served, we've known people
(14:10):
who are serving and we knowpeople who have lost loved ones,
especially in the war inAfghanistan.
So this really hit close to homefor us and there's similarities
between you know some peoplethat we know and their loved
ones, and how they did notsurvive and it's just a little.
Yeah, it was.
It was very emotional.
So, that was my first take.
What about you?
Garry (14:31):
That was a big first take , sorry, sorry.
Amy (14:33):
I know this.
Like I said, this would be likean hour long.
Garry (14:36):
I don't even know where to begin, because there was so
many things going on throughthis throughout this movie,
right, but on throughout thismovie, right.
But yet the director and thewriter wove this thing perfectly
together.
Man, they did I mean.
They did I just I mean you talkabout being at the right place
at the right time, becausethere's a lot of like symbolisms
in here.
Yes, it's funny how all thecharacters ended up at the hotel
(14:59):
in DC right around the sametime.
Amy (15:01):
So you're talking about the postables and Harper?
Well, Steve was already there.
Well, he.
Garry (15:09):
Shane reached out to him Right, so he ends up there.
Amy (15:11):
But Harper and Phoebe the grandpa and his granddaughter
His daughter is the one who'smissing Right.
Garry (15:18):
Right, and I just feel like.
Amy (15:21):
Well, oliver says there are no coincidences.
Right, exactly.
Garry (15:25):
But just think.
Well, oliver says there are nocoincidences.
Right, exactly.
But just think about thedifferent stories that were
going on.
You had Randy Lynn missing, youhad Shane and Steve's thing
going on, you had Shane andOliver, you had Rita and the
pageant, rita and Norman, andthen you had the committee.
So there was a lot of thingsgoing on at once there were.
And man, I just, I really,really enjoyed this thing.
(15:46):
So that's where I'm at.
Amy (15:49):
That's where you're at, I know it's.
It's a lot to talk aboutthere's.
There are so many things goingon and we'll probably get into
it a little bit when we get into, like, favorite scenes and all
that jazz, but there's so manythings to talk about oh yeah, I
mean, and I also want to talkabout the rock the rock, yes,
the symbolism of the rock, yes.
Now, or you want to hold off.
Is that like a scene?
(16:10):
Is that a cheer?
Is that?
Where's that for you?
Garry (16:12):
let's we'll talk about it when it actually shows up in
each when it shows up I think itshows up like four times okay,
all right.
Amy (16:19):
Well, you can all right, yeah sounds good.
Garry (16:21):
I'll try to remember, all right let dive.
Amy (16:22):
You want to dive into favorite scenes?
Yes, go, tell us, I would startout of the gate towards the
beginning.
It's not the very opening scene, but when the postables are
walking down the halls ofCongress and they're playing
science, he'll deliver it I justlove the slow-mo of that
hallway which is so cool, so Ithat was one of my favorite
(16:43):
scenes just that bit but whatwas funny is norman walks into
the.
Garry (16:47):
Uh, there's a flagpole and norman walks into it, so
they're all serious and cool andhe walks into it and he's like
oh, wait a minute, where'd youcome from?
Amy (16:56):
flag so it was just a great way to start with them of
course it starts off moreserious in Afghanistan.
Garry (17:03):
So that was one of my favorites, yeah, when they were
going to to the subcommitteemeeting.
Amy (17:09):
Do you want me to do a couple?
Garry (17:10):
or how do you want to do a couple yeah?
Amy (17:12):
The next one would be.
So they, you find out they'resitting in front of Congress
right For a committee meeting.
But then in the in one of theflashbacks in the DLO, it's
Oliver and Shane and Oliver.
Oliver has his color-codedfolders for each person for
their schedule.
And it's just so him, becauseof course he does right, so he
(17:33):
shows them to Shane and he kindof you know, is kind of like you
know, hey, maybe you know.
No, he asked her about herboyfriend.
Is there a boyfriend?
that you want to meet up with,you know, or something.
So then he talks about howthey're going to go to the
postal museum and then she asksif she can add a stop in, and
he's kind of like I've alreadydone the schedule.
Right you know he kind of is alittle bit shocked.
(17:55):
And then Norman comes in withthe shades on and they're ready
to go to DC and I just thoughtthat whole scene worked.
I, I loved that scene yeah,that was it.
Garry (18:02):
That was a really good scene.
Amy (18:04):
I had that down too did you really for one year?
Yeah, yeah, that's so.
Yeah, the same, we like it.
Yeah, what about you?
Garry (18:11):
okay, one of mine was the the first scene, uh, with uh,
randy lynn, when she's beingcaptured the the lieutenant, she
apparently is going to givebirth or not?
Her.
Not her she's going to helpgive birth to Assad's daughters.
Amy (18:29):
Help the daughter give Right.
He said help give birth.
Well, yeah, you're worried Toomuch wine.
Drink some more wine, I know,right, right.
Garry (18:37):
And I'm assuming they're in Afghanistan.
Yeah, and their daughter hasbeen in labor for 15 hours and
this is the first scene where wesee the rock.
So she picks up a rock and shegives it to the daughter and
asad looks at her because and isthat his name asad.
Amy (18:54):
I think it's okay.
Garry (18:55):
Yeah, I missed that asad looks at her and she's like well
, you know, this is one of thesymbolisms.
When you give a rock or acrystal to somebody, you know
some of the things are groundingand stability, emotional
strength, support and connection.
So for me it felt like hold onto this rock.
It's strength Whenever you feelpain.
Amy (19:16):
Just you know, just hold on to it.
Yes.
Garry (19:18):
I'm also here, so you're safe, don't worry about it.
And this is the conversationAssad has with Randy Lynn about.
You don't have much time, butand you pointed this out to me
he he sends the guy the guardoff to get some stuff for the
delivery and in it is a pen andpaper and that's when she writes
(19:43):
the letter.
Amy (19:45):
Right, she sees like the pen or whatever it is, and I
didn't even notice that when youpointed that out, and she's
kind of like huh, you know, andthat's when, yeah, we don't see
her write the letter, but, right, she kind of a light bulb goes
off for her.
Garry (19:59):
Yeah so that's like the first time we see the rock that
you're talking about, rightright, yeah, the symbolism, yeah
, and some of the other onesthat I had was the ones that you
pointed out, but I'll go overthem.
Go ahead and give a couple more.
You want another one?
Okay?
Amy (20:17):
I really liked the scene in Steve's office.
So we find out that Steve is ina clandestine.
Yes, his little office right soI just thought that all worked.
So in the in the office youhave, um, uh, shane, oliver and
rita, right, and they're talkingto steve, and they're talking
(20:37):
about randy lynn, the missinginaction, and they're they're
trying to convince him that theyneed to find her.
I'm kind of fumbling throughthis so then he mentions oh and
in her letter, and they're likeletter, that's where they perk
up.
That's where they perk up right,there's a letter Like letter,
(20:58):
there's a letter.
So then Rita tries to get alook at the letter and he's like
no, no, no, I.
So then, you know, rita triesto get a look at the letter and
he's like no, no, no, I mean, Ijust thought that whole scene,
you know, works and he's like Ican't show her the letter, she
can't see it.
And then you know, oliver sayswell, the letter technically is
addressed to FEBB and we couldsay that that's Phoebe and
that's her daughter.
So it's technically doesn'tbelong to you, it belongs to the
(21:20):
United States Post Office.
Garry (21:22):
I know that was so funny it is.
Amy (21:24):
And then you love the play here because the audience and
Shane and Oliver know that Ritahas a photographic memory.
Garry (21:31):
Yes.
Amy (21:31):
But Steve doesn't know Right, so just a quick glance
for Rita is enough to learnwhat's in the letter.
Garry (21:37):
Isn't that crazy.
Amy (21:38):
I loved that whole.
I thought that whole sceneworked.
Garry (21:41):
Yeah, another one of my favorite scenes was when, rita,
they were doing the rehearsalfor the tap dance scene.
Yes, and she is so off.
Amy (21:50):
Yes, I have this down.
That's my next one.
Yes, yes.
Garry (21:54):
And Norm being, oh, such a gentleman.
When they stop, you know thechoreographer is looking at Rita
like what in the world.
And then Norm goes.
Well, you did great, becauseeverybody else was off.
Amy (22:06):
Yeah, he says everyone else is out of step, but you, I
thought that was so cute.
Oh my gosh, that was so cute.
And she's like oh, you know,she's just so.
Garry (22:15):
He's a man after my own heart.
Amy (22:16):
Yes, yes, yes, that was so nice.
Garry (22:19):
So that was another one of mine.
Amy (22:20):
Do you have?
Another one For me.
I would say the scene betweenShane and Steve when they're
outside.
Steve is trying to convinceShane that he's now made.
Dc his home and that's where heis all the time.
And she says home is more thanan address, it's a porch swing.
Yes, and she goes on to otherthings.
Garry (22:38):
She says other things.
Amy (22:39):
But I thought, and he's like I'll buy you a porch swing,
and she's like I already haveone, I know, Like dude, and that
was so.
So she's like telling youwithout telling you that she's
into Oliver, you know.
And then is that, that's thescene where he comes out.
Yes, Now did he see them kissor not?
I don't know.
Garry (22:55):
Well, the scene cuts so fast, we'll have to ask the
postables.
Amy (23:03):
He's already through the door and probably 10 feet out of
the door.
Oh, so you don't think hewalked out after the kiss?
Garry (23:05):
I don't know if he saw it but you just have to assume,
maybe he did.
Amy (23:09):
Yeah, I don't know.
Garry (23:10):
But he took it like a man .
Yeah, he took it like a champ.
Amy (23:13):
Yeah, if he did.
Garry (23:14):
Yeah, and I like that whole scene too, where they were
supposed to have lunch together, all of them, but one by one
they kept dropping off, so itjust ended up being Norman and
Oliver.
And so Shane comes walking upand she's in this orange outfit
and I was like googly eyes overand Shane's smiling, and he
(23:35):
stands up, and then here comesSteve.
Amy (23:37):
Steve.
That was when we first seeSteve.
Garry (23:39):
That was before Picks her up give her a big hug and you
see, oliver, he goes to sit down, but then he stands up again.
Amy (23:45):
And then he goes to sit down and he stands up again.
It's like he doesn't know whatto do.
And that was before the scene Italked about, right?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, thatwas funny.
When he stands, he sits.
Garry (23:52):
He stands, he's like he doesn't and I don't blame him.
Yeah, I don't blame him man,you know.
Yeah.
Amy (24:08):
That was a good scene, yeah , the whole.
You know for me the wholeNorman-Rita exchange during the
Miss Special Delivery pageantwhere Norman has been trying to
give her something, the entiremovie, yes, the entire movie.
And then we finally get to thetalent part of the pageant,
which is towards the end.
And you know he finally givesher the gift and he's just so
excited to give it to her.
He finally thinks that she'sgoing to be so happy and he's
(24:30):
had like a chapter of her bookpublished in the Postal.
Garry (24:36):
What was it?
The Postal?
Amy (24:37):
The Postal Magazine, whatever, sorry, the name of it,
is escaping me right now thePostal Living Quarterly the
Postal.
Living Quarterly, the PostalLiving Quarterly, and he's so
excited and she's like I can'trecite it now because in the
talent show you can't useanything that's published and
paid, right.
And she's like and now I'mpublished and paid and she's
(24:59):
upset, but she's not.
But she's Rita upset, you knowlike I like to call it.
She's not like.
I mean she's upset visibly andshe doesn't know what she's
going to do.
And then she goes out on stageto help her friend Mindy, who is
struggling a little bit, right.
Garry (25:13):
Right.
Amy (25:14):
So she's only upset for a minute because she sees Mindy
struggling and that's her shewants to help, she wants to go
out, right, right, and so shegoes.
Oh, you know, I'll go first,while Mindy you know whatever.
So she starts speaking to thecrowd and she tells them what
she was going to do.
She was going to do a dramaticreading, but she can't.
Yeah.
And then, as she's telling thestory about her story, right,
(25:36):
she realizes it relates to.
Garry (25:38):
Norman Norman yeah.
Amy (25:39):
Norm you go, Norm Norman.
Yeah, Norm you go.
Norm Norman, Norman Norman.
She realized that it relates tohim.
And then she's like you know,in my story, you know she's
really in love with her.
And then she's like, oh, andthen you see the light bulb go
off.
And she turns off stage andshe's like he's in love with her
and he questions and he shakeshis head.
Garry (25:58):
He's tearing up you know.
So so well done, yeah, so welldone.
Amy (26:11):
Well, it's funny because Ramon had told Norman we haven't
even talked about Ramon.
He's in my chair.
Garry (26:13):
Or told Norman that, rita , she wins.
She's going to be off for ayear shaking hands, meeting new
people.
Amy (26:22):
Yeah, she'd have to do a lot of traveling.
Garry (26:24):
Yeah, he kind of put in norman's head that rita wasn't
coming back.
She was going to forget allabout her that's so, that's why
he printed out that, that onesection I think it was chapter
14 of her book, because hedidn't want her to forget about
them right.
Amy (26:38):
Well, he says I don't want you to forget that you're a
writer right postable, and youknow it was so sweet.
Garry (26:44):
And then that's when Rita .
Chapter 14 was about thecharacter Norman.
The character in the book givesher character a steed and
knowing that, no matter whereshe went, that steed would
always find its way back homeRight and she says something
like I.
Amy (27:00):
Why mystical?
Norman would give her a steedright, and then that's when she.
Garry (27:08):
That's when she realizes, yeah, that he's in love with
her, and then she says it outloud yeah.
Amy (27:13):
Piece of writing it was so, so good, like when norman says
are we having our first fight,you know?
Because he's just so.
Oh my gosh, do you have anyother scenes listed?
What you got.
Garry (27:26):
I have a couple more.
Can we say something aboutMindy's pipes?
Amy (27:29):
Yeah, oh, the way she said that was my next.
That was my next favorite scene.
Garry (27:34):
Oh man.
Amy (27:35):
So she sings it beautifully .
Garry (27:37):
Right and first of all, perfect song, perfect title.
Amy (27:42):
The lyrics were absolute perfection for this.
I mean, it was just perfect forthe movie, for that moment, for
what the postables are doing,just all of it.
Perfect, perfect, perfect.
If you don't know the lyrics tothat song, go look it up.
Garry (27:56):
Yes.
Amy (27:57):
Because it is.
I mean, I don't even know whatto say about it.
And then so she's singing,singing, and then you have
scenes back and forth betweenher singing, you see Shane and
Oliver crying right because theydon't know if a rescue was
happening or not right of thelieutenant they've been, they've
given all the information tothe committee by that point, and
(28:18):
the committee has to make adecision and they don't.
And that, well, they know atthat point that the rescue is
going up.
They don't know right if she'salive or not, and so the song is
so emotional I guess, right andso, and so they're going back,
and then they're also showingafghanistan scenes, right?
Garry (28:33):
so I mean the weaving of that the lyrics and the scenes
that go along.
Yes, it's just, it's so good.
Amy (28:39):
Oh, it's freaking brilliant man.
Oh my gosh, I know we'retearing up and goosebumps and
all the things in that scene.
Garry (28:47):
I know and then she hits that last note, yes, and holds
it.
Amy (28:51):
Yeah.
Garry (28:51):
And then when she stops, the look on Ramon's face was
like Even he was he was.
Amy (28:57):
Yes, he was, and he was kind of tearing, I mean, it was
so moving, so, so it was crazyyeah, but wait, the movie's not
over yet.
After you're emotionallycrushed, I know, I know all
right, so what else you got?
Um any more favorite scenes Ido.
Garry (29:15):
Uh, do you want to talk about?
Well, you go ahead, all right,because I um, I have okay, so
then.
Amy (29:22):
So then, har, harper and Phoebe, they go.
Is it the next day, maybe thenext morning?
I?
Garry (29:27):
think it's the same day?
Amy (29:28):
I'm not sure, but anyway.
So we see Harper and Phoebe aregoing to the airport and they
don't know why.
And Steve is there, thepostables are there, right,
right, they're all there, andHarper, because they don't want
to tell Harper and Phoebeanything.
They didn't want to give themfalse hope.
Garry (29:43):
Right.
Amy (29:44):
Right.
So they say they're there tofly on the what do they call?
It, the jet, the jet orwhatever to give them a chance
to fly on the jet and then-.
Garry (29:52):
That's when Steve comes up.
That's when Steve right andhe's talking to Harper and
Phoebe and he's like you know,look what, the Army Rangers are
flying around the country in nowand then out comes who, who,
the mom?
Amy (30:10):
The mom You're like tearing up, I can't, I know I can't, I
know you can't talk about it.
Yeah, so then we see Randy Lynn.
She comes walking.
Garry (30:21):
He's like tearing up.
I wish we had video he'stearing up, yeah.
Amy (30:25):
So she comes out of the plane, she comes down and then
the daughter Phoebe, goes up toher and that little actress I'm
telling you the tears.
That was like I don't know howshe did that in that moment.
It was so good.
Garry (30:38):
I mean it had been the actress who plays the
lieutenant's daughter goes upand she's just crying and crying
and oh, it's so emotional.
And it was like real.
Amy (30:47):
And then you see For real, for real.
Garry (30:50):
You see Shane and Oliver, they're all hugging and kind of
tearing up.
Amy (30:55):
And you see.
Garry (30:56):
Rita and Norman hugging and tearing up.
They hug and she lets go of therock.
She's hugging Phoebe, she'shugging her grandfather, and
that's the last time you see therock and it's like she lets the
rock go because now she reallyhas her rock, which is her
family, and I thought that wasreally really good.
Amy (31:14):
Powerful, really super powerful.
I thought that was reallyreally good.
Powerful, really super powerful.
And I guess we didn't talkabout when she's escaping Right
During the song.
Yeah, I forgot to bring, or,yeah, that's another time.
You wanted to mention the rock.
Garry (31:31):
Well, saad gives her the rock before he tells her I can't
go any further with you.
You know, wait here two days.
If I don't show up you have towalk.
And one night she squeezes therock.
And again, the symbolism of allthis, the emotional strength.
She's not giving up, she'sgoing to keep going.
And you know, she falls downthe hill, she hurts her legs,
(31:52):
she bandages up and she justkeeps on going.
You know she's got the strength.
Amy (31:56):
And it's for a couple days and it's for a couple days, like
a couple days and nights.
Garry (31:59):
She's by herself and you know they show her squeezing the
rock, and that was the thirdtime that we see the rock and I
found it pretty cool.
They call her Soul Sister.
Amy (32:12):
Soul Sister.
Yes, sister, soul sister.
Yes, that was her code name,right, that's their code name
for her.
Yes, I thought that was cool.
Garry (32:18):
Yes, scene when she sees those helicopters coming over
the mountains and they'replaying america, the beautiful
yes, right, oh, because she'ssaying that to her daughter.
I mean, there's so many thingswe could talk about yes, I mean
I couldn't.
I know I know so, but you'reright, that was.
Was there anything else?
Did you?
You have any?
Amy (32:34):
more, just the last scene.
They're headed to the airportand Oliver says we have an extra
stop.
We have, yes, and then they goto.
We didn't even talk aboutShane's house.
She went to see her house in DCthat she grew up in and they
had torn it down.
It wasn't there anymore, right.
And that was emotional forShane.
Garry (32:52):
Mm-hmm.
Amy (32:58):
Shane.
That was at the very beginningof the movie and then at the end
.
Oliver has this inheritancefrom his biological father and
he has created a foundation andhe surprises Shane with the
McInerney home for retiredpostal workers and she's like
it'll be a small house and he'slike we can make it bigger can
make it bigger and then he saysum, does he say something about
(33:18):
a porch and a swing?
Garry (33:19):
yes, like doesn't he say something?
It'll have a porch in a swing.
Amy (33:22):
It'll have a porch in a swing and I was like oh, and
then norman goes.
Garry (33:26):
Do we all have to move here with his crazy expressions?
I love him so much?
Amy (33:32):
and then he says can I have a workshop or a laboratory here
?
Garry (33:35):
and he says something about some kind of atom smasher
thing, and she's like no, norman, you can't have that.
Amy (33:41):
And Shane is just she's just really, really touched and
it was just a really great lastscene, right.
And then just wrapped it all up.
Garry (33:49):
And what put the cherry on top of that one is Oliver
pulling out the rose.
Amy (33:52):
Yes.
Garry (34:02):
Because she had told him when they first got there at the
beginning of the movie that hermom cut the last rose of summer
right and kept it fresh andthen planted it for the first
rose of summer, and he did theexact same thing for her, so she
was like, like her heart.
Yeah is the man yeah, and Idon't know, it was just
brilliantly written.
Amy (34:15):
It really really was.
It really really was, I mean,we could talk about every scene
in detail.
All right, Biggest cheers.
Garry (34:23):
I just love how Oliver gives those pep talks to.
Amy (34:26):
Norm.
Garry (34:26):
Yes, I have that as one of my cheers, not just Norm, but
to the whole crew.
He just picks them up, yes, andI mean he's got these little
Like one-lin up.
Yes, and I mean he's got theselittle like one liners.
And you know, god brought ushere to do a lot of little
things, yes, or we went througha lot of little things to get
here.
It's not just about the bigpicture, and when Norm was
(34:48):
talking about you know why do wecare about the little umbrellas
and the drinks or the little,you know, animals in the drinks,
and Oliver was pretty much likewe're not forgetting the big
picture, but it's the littleones that keep us going.
Amy (35:02):
Those are the two exact things that I have as my cheer.
I was saying we need a sectionof Oliver quotes.
Garry (35:08):
We do Quotes of wisdom.
You know what we're going tostart doing that.
Amy (35:10):
Because the quote that you're talking about was
something like because Norman islike oh, everything else is so
trivial, we need to get you knowthe lieutenant home like
everything else seems so trivial, and that's when Oliver says
that the missed delivery pageantis perhaps not an event of
great import to the world atlarge, but the world is
(35:31):
complicated and so much of itcan be ugly.
That's why it is beautiful, andthat's why what is beautiful
and gentle is worth fighting topreserve, yes, and also why we
honor those who fight.
And that's so significantbecause you do feel like, oh, I
shouldn't be enjoying this, butyou should, but you should be.
It's okay if other stuff isgoing on in the world or in your
(35:53):
life, or it's okay to enjoy thesmaller moments, the things
that seem trivial.
I mean, yeah, and the bigpicture, you know, yeah, but you
, you have to enjoy it.
And he also says you know, andthat's why we honor those who
fight, that's how we honor thosewho fight is enjoying our
freedom, enjoying the specialthings, enjoying the happy
moments.
And then the other quote thatyou were talking about is, he
(36:16):
said to Shane I think we werecalled to be a part of a lot of
little miracles that had tohappen to get this far.
Yes, that's what you know yeah,I wrote those down as my true.
Garry (36:25):
Yeah, we're on the same.
Amy (36:26):
We're on the same page, but we need a section that's like
all of our quotes and then ourpodcast will be two hours long.
Garry (36:31):
I know, I know it's hard, but no, I had that same thing.
I know I know it's hard, but no.
Amy (36:33):
I had that same thing.
Garry (36:35):
So did you have any other ?
Amy (36:37):
cheers, cheers.
We've already talked about itthe storytelling, the way each
one of the postables has a turnin the hearing.
Yes, you know, oliver starts,he's followed by Shane, and they
each give their part of thestory, then Rita, then Norman.
Right you know each part oftheir story.
I know each part of their storyand I won't go into detail
because I know we're Right.
I loved the running parallelstorylines of Norma and Rita and
(37:01):
Shane and Oliver.
Yes, because, like you said,they were supposed to all have
lunch together and then thingshappen and they don't.
Garry (37:07):
Mm-hmm.
Amy (37:08):
And Norman and Rita are supposed to go to dinner
together and Shane and Oliver,separately, are supposed to go
to dinner together and thatdoesn't happen yeah.
You know, and they both, youknow, like Norman's a little
jealous of Ramon.
Garry (37:21):
Right.
Amy (37:22):
And Oliver's a little jealous of Steve.
Yeah, you know, it was like aparallel universe, and that's
what's so brilliant about this.
Yes, yes, what about you?
Any other?
Garry (37:30):
I'm just glad.
So they closed two chapters.
So they close two chapters.
So they close Shane and Steve.
We think, we think we don't.
We haven't seen the rest ofthem.
Amy (37:39):
Right, right, but it's a pretty good.
Garry (37:40):
You get an indication of where Shane's mind is, and then
Oliver got to have closure bygoing over to the postal museum
at the Pony Express.
Oh, yes, yes, when his ex-wifeactually left him Right, and
that's a story where Harper metup with him and is like what are
you doing?
And then he tells him the storyabout Randy Lynn falling off
(38:02):
the bed.
Yes, and she couldn't explainto her grandpa or her dad what
happened, so she went on the bedand fell off again.
Amy (38:08):
Fell off again.
Garry (38:09):
Which is ironic, because she fell out of the helicopter.
Amy (38:11):
So that's kind of a Well, yeah, and he said, but Harper
says that she always wanted togo back to the place and figure
it out.
Garry (38:19):
Right why it happened Right.
Amy (38:20):
She wanted to make sense of it.
Yes, yes, so that was.
Garry (38:23):
And.
Amy (38:24):
But yes, it was part of the clue, Right that yeah.
Garry (38:27):
Which that whole letter was as a clue.
Amy (38:33):
I had Ramon as a reporter.
We could just leave it at thatand everybody just having him
back was great.
Garry (38:39):
Another job.
Amy (38:39):
Yeah, yeah.
And then you know the cheers tothe clues.
Garry (38:43):
Yes.
Amy (38:43):
And you sort of you get them throughout the movie.
You don't know what's in theletter yet, but you get them
throughout the movie.
And then the piecing of themtogether.
Like you mentioned, the fourposters.
I don't think I have somethingabout like.
At first they think it'ssomething about the 4th of July,
something about four posters,grim feet and like a Bible verse
.
Right so they're trying to pieceall that together and, like you
(39:04):
said, just how?
Then you find out.
The four poster means the fourposter bed.
She fell off of it.
That's where she fell out ofthe helicopter.
Garry (39:11):
Right 4th of July actually referred to the dog's
liberty right and the dog'sbirthday, which was the 21st.
Amy (39:20):
So that was the day she was going to escape right.
Yes, Right, so even I, yeah, ifwe get these wrong too and that
was sort of Norman's part hepieced all the clues together in
that committee meeting, right?
So then, what are some of theother ones?
The Ramadan is observed withprayer, acts of charity and
fasting, so he is suggestingthat she's choosing to escape.
(39:43):
Escape on the day of fastingright the last day the last day,
the last day around on fastingand that the four post was where
she had been captured.
Garry (39:53):
Yes and yeah.
Amy (39:54):
So the four posts because she fell off the bed right and
then fell yeah, we just and shefell out of the hell.
Garry (39:59):
Yeah, so, and then um the grim feet.
Amy (40:02):
Yes, that pilgrim feet, which is actually part of
america, the beautiful which Idid not know me either I don't
know that whole song, but boyand who sang that?
Was that josh groban.
I meant to look that up.
I don't who sang the rendition.
Garry (40:14):
So there were beautiful songs in this one too, yes.
Amy (40:19):
Good grief.
Do you have any more cheers?
Garry (40:21):
No, let me see, but I do have.
Amy (40:24):
The whole thing is a cheer.
Garry (40:25):
Yeah, well, I do have a jeer.
Okay, what's your jeer?
I just feel, like that wholecommittee, how they look down on
the postables especially whenshe was like okay, task force
DLO, is it the CIA, fbi or NSS?
And Oliver goes USPS.
Amy (40:44):
USPS.
Yeah, she's like what she goes.
Garry (40:46):
He's like we're with the post office.
Well, yeah, that was.
And the look on her face waslike are you serious?
Amy (40:53):
What are you doing here?
What are you doing here?
Why do you even care about?
Garry (40:56):
this and my other thing is I don't like how Steve
thought he could just go upthere and kiss.
Amy (41:02):
Shane, you know what I mean .
Oh okay, you just got a littleproblem with that.
Steve will take a littleliberty with that, huh.
Garry (41:08):
There could have been something with him and you know,
yeah, but it wasn't really.
I don't disagree with that.
Amy (41:12):
I don't disagree with a jeer, but I just that's.
Garry (41:15):
If it was a jeer, that would have been a jeer.
Amy (41:17):
That would have been your jeer.
Garry (41:19):
Yeah.
Amy (41:19):
Yeah, Mine would have been the committee chairwoman asking
why.
Why would the lieutenant send aletter in code?
Garry (41:30):
Yeah, encrypted.
Amy (41:31):
Encrypted?
Yeah Like.
Give clues.
Yeah Like.
Why would she do hello?
Like what do you mean?
Why would she do that?
So that she wouldn't getcaptured?
Garry (41:40):
Or the people that were helping her wouldn't get,
wouldn't get that trouble.
Amy (41:45):
And I mean, I just thought I was like OK, that probably.
I mean I don't know whatsomebody.
Garry (42:02):
Come on, you're a politician.
You should know Well, well,maybe that's why politicians
aren't.
You know, and didn't thesenator say this is why?
And yes, yeah, yes, the onesenator from illinois or
whatever, she didn't want to getanybody else in trouble.
Yeah, especially aside.
Amy (42:09):
So yeah, so that was it for me.
Yeah, I mean, I agree, I thinkI mean there's a.
You know we could go over morequotes and you know when
oliver's like the few, the proud, proud, the postables.
Garry (42:17):
Oh, that was good.
Amy (42:18):
Doesn't he say something about?
I still stand by like postoffice is the best way to.
He says something to Steveabout that?
Garry (42:28):
Yeah, because who was it that said oh, they have postal
service in Afghanistan.
Amy (42:34):
And then Oliver was like yeah, was as a matter of fact,
they have one of the, the better, the best ones, right, yeah,
and it's routed out of cabal orsomething I don't know.
Garry (42:43):
And that's when he said I still stand by.
This is the best way this isthe but.
Amy (42:48):
Yeah, I've always maintained that mail is still
the gold standard of humancommunication.
That's what I knew I'd find iteventually.
Yes, I still maintain that mailis the gold standard.
Oh gosh, Okay.
Garry (43:02):
So, out of five quarks, what would you give this one?
Amy (43:06):
Ten.
I'm not talking about how manypages you printed out.
Garry (43:10):
I'm talking about quarks.
Amy (43:12):
How many pages of notes did you have?
One hundred, one hundred.
Garry (43:15):
There was a lot.
There was a lot.
Amy (43:17):
I would definitely give it a five Me too.
I mean I would be shocked if Igave any Science Zeal delivered
movie less than a five and we'retrying to keep five exclusive.
Yes, but I can't help itbecause the story is so
intricate, yes, and sointertwined with their lives and
the letter, and this oneespecially, was like a
two-parter kind of you know.
(43:38):
Yeah, so I would give it a five.
How about you?
Garry (43:41):
I'm definitely giving it a five Word.
I just I mean the emotions, thegoosebumps, the tears
throughout the whole show.
Yes and again, oliver, actuallyall the cast members they can
just make you cry with just thelook.
Amy (43:55):
And Oliver was so great in this one too, and and Norman,
with their like anger but notsaying anything, their face
showed it and then they'resoftening.
And then Oliver was so proudwhen he did the for Shane, the
house.
You know that.
So, yeah, it's all good, it'sall, it's all really good.
Garry (44:15):
So is that a wrap?
That is a wrap.
Well, thanks's all good.
It's all really good Tearjerker.
So is that a wrap?
That is a wrap.
Well, thanks for tuning in.
Be sure to follow the podcastwherever you listen so you don't
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We'd love to hear from you.
Yeah, drop us a line, let usknow what you think.
(44:38):
Talk to us on social media andwe'll chat back.
And if we miss something inthis one, you know just it's not
on purpose I have.
Amy (44:40):
I have a lot of pages of notes.
Garry (44:42):
I can't just do them all and, like we said, this thing
would be over an hour long, yeah, so all.
Amy (44:48):
Right until next time, fill up your glasses and push play.
Thanks for listening cheers,cheers.
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