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April 30, 2025 39 mins

On this episode of Pour the Wine, It’s Rom-Com Time, we’re delivering our thoughts on the latest Signed, Sealed, Delivered installment: To the Moon and Back! When a lost letter from a long-closed nightclub resurfaces, the POstables set out on a heartfelt journey filled with family secrets, tough choices, and the healing power of forgiveness. So pour yourself a glass and join us as we unpack the drama, dig into the truth, and toast to second chances.

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Amy (00:08):
welcome to pour the wine.
It's rom-com time where we'llsip some wine and review all
things rom-com on the homeworkchannel.
I'm amy and I'm gary and it'stime to pour the wine.
Get it pouring.
What are we pouring tonight,today?

Garry (00:24):
Or tonight we're pouring tribute A tribute, tribute,
tribute.

Amy (00:30):
You haven't even had anything to drink yet.

Garry (00:32):
I know I have a hard time with that word, don't I?

Amy (00:34):
So the wine is tribute.

Garry (00:36):
Yes, it's a Cabernet Sauvignon.
It's a Cab 2023 from.

Amy (00:41):
California, pretty much where we stay because we're
cheap.

Garry (00:44):
Yes, 23 from California, pretty much where we stay,
because we're cheap.
Yes, right, we're not cheap,cheap, cheap, and we got tribute
, because we figured it would bea tribute To SSD.

Amy (00:53):
To the moon and back.

Garry (00:54):
Yes, let's see what you did.

Amy (00:57):
Can you believe, may is almost here.
I know it's literally only afew days away.
So today we're going to bereviewing the last movie of
April, even though it's not partof any Spring Into Love or
Easter, or whatever.

Garry (01:13):
It's just a standalone for April.
Yes, I know.

Amy (01:15):
And May is going to bring us two new movies the first two
Saturdays.
Sounds good to me as part oftheir May for Moms the first two
Saturdays as part of their Mayfor Moms.

Garry (01:31):
And then the final three Saturdays, Hallmark Channel is
going to air.

Amy (01:34):
Love on the Danube movies that aired on Hallmark Plus in
September of 2024.
So they're not new, but I guessthey'll be new to the Hallmark
Channel.

Garry (01:44):
Yes.

Amy (01:44):
So for people who didn't have Hallmark Plus back then,
including us, we did not see it.

Garry (01:50):
No.

Amy (01:50):
I mean, did funding run out ?
Did they stop making new filmsfor me?
I don't know.

Garry (01:55):
Who knows, maybe they're taking a break.

Amy (01:56):
Yeah, maybe they're taking a break.
I don't know.
I don't know.

Garry (02:05):
They just rehash the new stuff or the old stuff?
The old stuff yeah, so we havea confession.
Who wants to fess up you?

Amy (02:08):
do it.
You want me to confess.

Garry (02:09):
You confess?

Amy (02:10):
All right, so we are going to be reviewing.

Garry (02:17):
Yes, here, let me give you a wine first Give me my wine
.

Amy (02:22):
We are going to be reviewing the To the Moon and
Back from Science, sealDelivered, and it will only be
our first SSD movie outside ofthe movie that began the series.

Garry (02:36):
Yes.

Amy (02:37):
But is it a controversy?
Because on IMDb that movie isshown as season one, episode
zero.

Garry (02:42):
Right.

Amy (02:43):
So is it technically part of the series?

Garry (02:44):
It was a movie, but Right , it was a movie, it technically
part of the series it was amovie but right, it was a movie
so we watched the series yep andnow the first movie, and we're
gonna have to.

Amy (02:52):
I know we're gonna be backtracking, but that'll be all
right, yeah and we'll go back,there are 15 total movies if you
count the first movie, as thataired before the series.
I don't know, it's all veryconfusing.
We have some research to do onthat, yeah.

Garry (03:06):
Yeah, I thought that was interesting.

Amy (03:09):
Right, so you want to dive in.

Garry (03:11):
Sure, but you know before we do that, I'd love it if the
people out there, would you know, click that follow button on
their favorite podcast app, likeyou know, apple or Spotify.
Whatever they use, so theydon't miss any of our episodes.

Amy (03:27):
Sounds good.

Garry (03:29):
And they can also leave a review, hopefully a positive
review.

Amy (03:33):
Yes, hopefully, fingers crossed.

Garry (03:35):
And you can find us on social media.
You know Facebook, instagram,blue Sky X and Threads.

Amy (03:41):
Threads yes, yes, yes.

Garry (03:45):
Yeah, that's a lot of social media going on there
Social, social media.
Social.
Yes, Anywho, on with the show.

Amy (03:53):
On with the show.
So what are we going to bereviewing today?
Even though I just said it, yes, you did.

Garry (03:58):
You stole my thunder.

Amy (03:59):
I did.
I stole your line.
I'm so sorry.
Okay, anyway.

Garry (04:06):
You say it.
You go ahead and say it.
This is all you.
We're going to act likenobody's heard it yet.
Me, me, me, me, me, oh my gosh.
Today we review a signed sealed, delivered To the Moon and Back
, that aired on Saturday, april26, 2025.
If you missed it, you can nowcatch it on Hallmark Plus.

Amy (04:19):
Yes, how was that.
That was pretty good.

Garry (04:23):
That was better than what I did.

Amy (04:25):
No, you did a pretty good job, you know I got to warm up.
You got to yeah right, I knowthose vocal cords.
You know Drink some wine.

Garry (04:32):
Yeah, drink some wine, I'm feeling fine.
Anyways, tell us who's in thisone.

Amy (04:36):
Who is in this one?
Well, of course you got tostart with the core four fab
four.
The core four, fab four, fabfour.
Eric mabeus plays olivero'toole his homework work goes
back to 2012 with I think thisis his first.
How to fall in love.
The sign sealed, deliveredseries ran one season during

(04:56):
2013 to 2014.
As we just discussed, I believethere are 15 movies.
Okay, depending on if you countthe first one or not.
I'm sure someone will correct meif I'm wrong yes, correct us um
, you know, I actually hearderic say in an interview that
there is a discrepancy in thenumber of movies.
So maybe this is why, becausethat first movie.

(05:18):
I haven't done enough researchand we are new to the ssd family
.
But better late than never yes,thank you.
Better, right, we're jumping inoutside of the science deal,
delivered um for hallmark.
He was also in haul out theholly lit up in 2023.
And how?
Haul out the holly in 2022?

(05:38):
It's beginning to look a lotlike christmas in 2019.
Oh yeah, okay.
And of course, we know and lovehim from oh my gosh, where he
played daniel mead yes and thatshow aired from 2006 to 2010 and
if you have not seen it, thatis a must watch yes, and you

(05:59):
were the one that got me on thatone I made.
you must watch it.
Yes, I said you must watch it.
I watched it when it aired from2006 to 2010 and loved it, and
then we did a rewatch relativelyrecently, within the past year
or so.
I think, yeah, we watched everyepisode.
It was just so cool.
Oh gosh, I just I'd forgotten,how great that show actually is.

Garry (06:22):
They have a lot of good actors and actresses on that
show.
Yes, really good.

Amy (06:26):
He was also in seven episodes of Chicago Fire in 2015
and two episodes of Party ofFive in 1999.
Can you believe that?
I guess I should mention herethat we don't talk about every
single acting credit that theyhave.
I just try to highlight theirhallmark.

Garry (06:44):
Yes.

Amy (06:44):
Movies or series Correct and a few things that we might
know, or some popular shows.

Garry (06:51):
Yeah, there's just too many.

Amy (06:52):
Right, right.
Kristen Booth plays ShaneMcInerney.
Did I say that correctly,McInerney.

Garry (06:58):
Yeah.

Amy (06:58):
That's hard for me to say, that's one last name.

Garry (07:01):
You mean there's a word that's hard for you to say,
pronounce?

Amy (07:04):
For a hallmark.
She starred in all of the ssdmovies okay and the series.
Obviously she was in mysteryisland, winter takes all in 2025
, the christmas charade in 2024and shifting gears in 2024, and
those were all for hallmark.
She was in the tv series Cross,which we watched.

(07:25):
She was in three episodes ofthat in 2024.
She was in the Boys.
Oh really Uh-huh In 2022,.
She was in four episodes.

Garry (07:34):
Okay.

Amy (07:35):
She was in a Netflix I think this was on Netflix a
series called Working Mom.
She was in eight episodesbetween 21 and 22.
And she played Ethel Kennedy inthe Kennedys eight episodes
that aired in 2011,.
And the Kennedys after Camelotfour episodes in 2017.

(07:55):
And that's the series whereKatie Holmes played Jackie
Kennedy.

Garry (07:59):
Yeah, yeah.

Amy (08:01):
And Matthew Perry played Ted Kennedy in the second one.
Mm-hmm, yeah, oh, matthew Perry.

Garry (08:07):
Mm-hmm.
Goodness gracious.

Amy (08:09):
Crystal Lowe plays Rita Hayworth.
I love the play on her namewhen they call her Rita Hayworth
.
Yeah For Hallmark.
She too has been part of theSSD family from the beginning.
A few other movies that she'sdone for Hallmark the Wish Swap
in 2025.
That was part of.

Garry (08:26):
Yeah, Love you Mary.

Amy (08:28):
There, you get to say it again.
I get to say it again Uh-huh.
Christmas at Dollywood in 2019.
Flip that Romance in 2019.
Christmas at Holly Lodge in2017.

Garry (08:39):
Yes.

Amy (08:40):
Her first acting credit was one episode of Stargate SG-1 in
1997.

Garry (08:46):
Now there's a sci-fi movie for you.
She was also in.

Amy (08:49):
I kind of did these backwards, but she was also in
Snakes on a Plane in 2006.

Garry (08:54):
Oh, With Samuel L Jackson .
Yes, yes.

Amy (08:56):
I never saw that, but yeah.

Garry (08:58):
Samuel.

Amy (08:58):
L Jackson.
A lot of people talked aboutthat one yeah.
Jeff Gustafson plays NormanNorman Norman.
That one, yeah, jeff gustaf isgustafson plays norman norman
dorman for hallmark.
He's part of the fab four also.
That's been in ssd family fromthe beginning.
Other hallmark work to mentionseason's greetings from cherry

(09:18):
lane where he played a postman.
Oh, I know, in 2024.

Garry (09:23):
Postman.
Oh, I know In 2024.

Amy (09:25):
He was in Three Wise Men and a Baby in 2022, the 27 Hour
Day in 2021, and Wedding EveryWeekend in 2020.

Garry (09:34):
Okay, Just to name a few.
Just to name a few.

Amy (09:37):
He was in a mini series called Under the Bridge, one
episode in 2024.
He was in the series Wilderness, which keeps coming up three
episodes of that in 2023.
He was in the series Wilderness, which keeps coming up Three
episodes of that in 2023.
He was in four episodes of OnceUpon a Time which we loved from
2012 to 2016.
And he was in the series BatesMotel, which we did not watch

(10:00):
One episode in 2014.
And you know who was in that?
Who?
Freddie Highmore.
Do you know who that is?

Garry (10:05):
No.

Amy (10:06):
He was the lead in the Good Doctor.
Oh Okay, uh-huh Uh.
Gregory Harrison plays JoeOliver's dad, but not his
biological dad For Hallmark.
He's been in nine of the SSDmovies.
He was also in ChesapeakeShores which we loved.
He was in 16 episodes of thatfrom 2017 to 2022.

(10:30):
He was in the Nine Kittens ofChristmas in 2021.
Okay, and he was also in theNine Lives of Christmas in 2014.

Garry (10:38):
Ooh the Nine.

Amy (10:39):
Lives Kind of jumped there.
He was in Love Fallen Order in2019, my Christmas Love in 2016.
So he's been around for aminute on homework.

Garry (10:47):
Wow, he has.

Amy (10:48):
He was in 147 episodes of General Hospital from 2020 to
2024.

Garry (10:53):
Oh, there's General Hospital again.

Amy (10:55):
He was in 11 episodes of One Tree Hill.

Garry (10:57):
Oh wow, I watched One Tree Hill.

Amy (10:59):
Okay, From 2009 to 2011.
And, of course, we grew upwatching him in.
Do you know what he was in?

Garry (11:07):
No, I do not.

Amy (11:09):
I had a crush on him too, I just thought.
And he's still handsome.
But Trapper John.

Garry (11:12):
MD Ah Trapper.

Amy (11:13):
Uh-huh, he was in 142 episodes from 1979 to 1986.
Gosh, and yes, that dates us.

Garry (11:20):
Yes, it does.

Amy (11:21):
Zach Santiago plays Ramon Rodriguez.

Garry (11:25):
Okay.

Amy (11:25):
For Hallmark.
He's in 10 of the SSD moviesand a few episodes of the series
.
He was in Legend of the LostLocket in 2024, christmas at the
Golden Dragon in 2022, andMerry Go Round M-A-R-R-Y, not
M-E-R-R-Y.

Garry (11:42):
Wow, see what Hallmark did there.
Yes, in 2022.

Amy (11:45):
He was an episode of the series Sight Unseen this year in
2025.
He was in Virgin River threeepisodes 2022 and 2023.
And he was in eight episodes ofShut Eye.
We watched that Shut Eye wasanother good one.

Garry (12:01):
Yes, that was in 2016.

Amy (12:02):
That was with Jeffrey Donovan from Burn Notice.

Garry (12:05):
Yes.

Amy (12:06):
That's a really good.

Garry (12:07):
That's a really good one.

Amy (12:08):
There were only two seasons , but that's a good series.

Garry (12:10):
Yeah.

Amy (12:11):
Where he's like a scammer with a small chain of fortune
telling.

Garry (12:14):
Love those mojitos yeah.

Amy (12:16):
Well, that was in Burn Notice, then that wasn't him.
Yes, no, okay, yes, no, okay.
Um, rihanna and fish playscharlie for homework.
She's been in three of the ssdmovies the vows we made a tale
of three letters and to the moonand back.
She was the lead in polaropposite in 2025.

(12:37):
She was in a costa ricanwedding in 2024 my norwegian and
a picture of her in 2023, the27-hour day, which we mentioned
a little bit ago, in 2021, andyou're baking me crazy.
That keeps coming up too in2020.
Outside of homework, it lookslike she's just done numerous

(12:59):
rom-coms for other productioncompanies.

Garry (13:01):
Okay.

Amy (13:01):
And she was also in Home and Away, which is an Australian
soap opera.
She was in 325 episodes of thatfrom 2010 to 2013.

Garry (13:12):
Goodness gracious, that's pretty cool.
Yes, it is A lot of work.

Amy (13:15):
Natalie Sharp plays Tracy slash Lily.

Garry (13:18):
Lily.

Amy (13:19):
For Hallmark.
She was in Wedding Season 2023,A God Winked Christmas in 2018.
Mm-hmm, she was in the seriesWilderness five episodes.
Okay, Again, that was in 2023.
She was in five episodes of theflash 2020 to 2022 and the
updated version of beverly hills90210 she was in four episodes

(13:43):
of that in 2019.
She's actually a real singer andshe goes by frankie sharp for
her music oh, and so I looked upher music just before we were
doing the pod and I just playedone of the songs and it was
called feels okay and it'sactually really good right, I
liked it.
So anyway, I just thought thatwas interesting.

(14:04):
She's a real, an actual, realsinger and actress William
Wilder plays Nate Holloway.
He was pursuing a career inmedicine when he discovered his
passion for acting.
He has three acting credits.

Garry (14:19):
That is crazy.

Amy (14:19):
Including To the Moon and Back, of course.

Garry (14:22):
Okay.

Amy (14:23):
He was in the TV series Wild Cards one episode.
I think that started this yearor last year, Right.
It's a series on the CW.

Garry (14:30):
Okay.

Amy (14:31):
And a movie called Soul Frame in 2023.
He does have a few that arelisted in post-production, so
he's got like two more.

Garry (14:40):
Okay.

Amy (14:41):
Kelly O'Brien plays Camille for Hallmark.
She's done a lot of Hallmarkwork.
She was in, most recently, loveand Jane in 2024, a Mrs Miracle
Christmas in 2021, ships in theNight, a Martha's Vineyard
Mystery and Jingle Bell Bride in2020.

Garry (14:59):
Wow.

Amy (15:00):
She was also in one episode of Girlfriend's Guide to
Divorce in 2015.
Okay, and way back in the day,she was in 21 Jump Street.

Garry (15:10):
Oh, another good series 1987 to 1989.

Amy (15:14):
Ooh.

Garry (15:14):
I had to tell you a story about that one day.

Amy (15:17):
About 21 Jump Street.
Yeah, but it was a real-life 21Jump Street at the high school
I went to Okay, let's, we'llsave that for another podcast
episode.
That's up to you All right.

Garry (15:30):
Time to drop the synopsis .
Or maybe, maybe not.
I don't know the synopsis.
Is that me?
Is that me?
Yes, you.

Amy (15:39):
All right, here we go.
The Postables are given aletter found in a former
nightclub that takes them on atrip to find the writer hiding
from a troubled past.
Meanwhile, Oliver learns moreabout his birth father while
wrestling with his ownapproaching fatherhood.

Garry (15:54):
Ooh.

Amy (15:55):
Ooh Dun, dun dun.

Garry (15:57):
Dun, dun dun.
So let's talk about theElephant in the Room first.

Amy (16:06):
Oh, before we go, into the review.

Garry (16:08):
Before we go into the review.
Before we go into the.
Before we go into the reviewwhat I thought about the review.

Amy (16:13):
So the elephant in the room is that hallmark did not do, I
don't think, any publicity forthis movie did not seem like it
did it.
No, and it's because of youknow, an incident that happened
with eric mabeus and the jury'sliterally still out on that.
I don't know all the details.
I've read a few of theheadlines.

(16:33):
He had an incident in February,which is unfortunate because
this movie, it has a huge fanbase.

Garry (16:40):
Yes, it does.

Amy (16:41):
And Hallmark did it dirty really Dirty.
Dirty.
They really did.
I hate to admit it, but there'snot even a picture.
If you go to HallmarkChannelcomand you do a search for Signed,
sealed, delivered, you know allthe movies come up, the series
comes up and they have a picture, this one.
They have a description whichis great, but there's no picture

(17:04):
Right and it just, you know, Imean I, I don't know, I, I just
feel badly for all the otheractors and actresses in the
movie because you know they'veall been doing this.
For what a better part of 10years they've been acting
together.
It's a very popular movieseries um, for hallmark, and

(17:26):
it's just.
I guess it's a littledisappointing that they didn't
at least do something for it.
So you know it is what it is,but we watched it and actually,
for the first time ever, I livetweeted.

Garry (17:41):
Yes, you did.
That was cool, wasn't it?

Amy (17:43):
It was kind of fun.
I didn't think I'd be able to,you know, to tweet and watch is
the first time I've ever doneanything like that, so but it
was actually really fun, andinteracting with all the
postables, all the fans it was,it was really cool, so you know
yeah.
So there you go.
So we got the elephant in theroom to.

(18:05):
I mean do you have anything?

Garry (18:06):
I would just say you know , we're all human, we all fall
from grace.
So until everything comes out,give a man a break.
We don't know what, we don'tknow Right, so let's not judge.

Amy (18:18):
And he hasn't, even, you know, gone to court yet.

Garry (18:21):
Nope, so we'll just see what happens.
Just give him a break.
Everybody sit back.

Amy (18:29):
Wait till the evidence comes out.
I mean, I think MarthaWilliamson.
Am I saying that?
I'm sorry, right now my mind isdrawing a blank, but she
released a video and basicallysaid this movie is coming out at
a good time because it's aboutforgiveness and moving forward.

Garry (18:46):
It's all the above, so you know.
So we'll see All above.

Amy (18:47):
So you know All right, so we'll see, all right.

Garry (18:51):
So all right Back to the review.
Back to the actual review.

Amy (18:56):
We'll jump into the review now.

Garry (18:57):
So what did you think?
What was your first?

Amy (18:58):
impression.
I have to make a confession.

Garry (19:01):
Okay.

Amy (19:02):
This will be the second confession, I guess, of this
episode.
My mom worked for the postoffice and retired after, I
think, 31 years of service, so Ihave a very special affinity
for anything related to the postoffice and I can't believe we
haven't watched it soonerhonestly.
It just kind of slipped by usand it is what it is, but we

(19:25):
just haven't until relativelyrecently when we watched the
first movie in the series.
So overall though and I knowwe're jumping into the series
you can totally do that.
You don't need to watch.
I felt like I understood themovie.

Garry (19:41):
Yeah, if you've never watched a movie.

Amy (19:42):
I feel like you could watch this movie.

Garry (19:45):
Like it was a standalone episode.
Yeah, even if we hadn't watchedthe series.

Amy (19:47):
There might have been a few things where we'd be like oh, I
wonder why he's like that, oris he always like that?
Or why did he do that?
But it's not too much, you cantotally watch it and enjoy it.
So, overall, I just thoroughlyenjoyed it.
It's true to the core four,core four that you and I have
come to know and love recently.
Yeah, right they're true to thecharacters that have grown over
the series, I sure, and themessaging just really worked

(20:10):
from just the standpoint of good, old-fashioned letter writing,
which I love, to being a victimof circumstance, to the fun of a
spontaneous road trip, to themessiness of families to the
power of unconditional love.
It just all worked and flowedand you know also, the right
thing to do is always the rightthing to do yes, it is no matter

(20:30):
how hard it is.

Garry (20:31):
Yep.

Amy (20:33):
So that was my kind of first impression first take what
about you?

Garry (20:36):
Well, that was a good first take.

Amy (20:38):
Oh, thank you.

Garry (20:39):
No, I thought this movie had a little bit of everything.
You know, I love the uniquenessand the emotional depth of each
character.
Yeah, and the emotional depthof each character yeah, you know
.
And how the chemistry betweenthem, you know was working
throughout the movie.

Amy (20:54):
Definitely works after 14 years.

Garry (20:56):
Right, it should work or we're in trouble, right and then
you throw in a mystery to solvea road trip in an RV, that
there is an RV, Yep.
And then to Vegas.
On top of that, oh yeah, Vegasyeah, come on now, remember.

Amy (21:08):
And into Vegas, oh yeah, on top of that, come on now.

Garry (21:10):
Remember that trip to Vegas.

Amy (21:11):
Oh yes, we went to Vegas and had a really good time, one
of the best trips we've taken.

Garry (21:18):
Then you throw in two pregnant women.

Amy (21:20):
Well, yeah.

Garry (21:21):
And their hormones and everything else A house being
turned into a postal museum, yep, and a box of letters from your
bio dad.
You know, harvey, and uh, itmade this movie for me enjoyable
, yeah there was a lot thrown inthere but they all they it
flowed.
It flowed really well, and theytied it up, they wove
everything together.
It was perfect.

Amy (21:42):
Yeah, makes me excited to watch the other movies actually
which we're gonna do which weare gonna do yes, so yep, yep.

Garry (21:48):
So did you have any favorite scenes?

Amy (21:50):
I had.
Oh gosh, I had a few favoritescenes.
Okay, I had.
How many do you?
Do you have a few?
I have one, two, three, four ohwow, that's a lot for you,
that's a lot for you.
Yeah, some of them are notscenes, but kind of moments,
moments, okay, and we'll talkabout it Same.

Garry (22:07):
I'm going to have a sip, though, so mine drink your wine.

Amy (22:11):
I always love the letter reading.
Yes.

Garry (22:14):
That is so cool.

Amy (22:15):
It's such a good part of the whole show and the series
and everything.
Just I love the way they youknow Oliver evaluates the
outside of the envelope first,and then you open it up and then
he reads to a certain point andthen you know and he does this
often he gets emotional beforehe even finishes reading, like
he reads ahead a little bit.
I just I don't know.
I just love that as an opening.

(22:38):
I love the brunch scene.

Garry (22:42):
Oh my God, Fun light.

Amy (22:45):
I mean just brought lightness and fun and humor to
it.
It was just so cute.
I just really, really likedthat scene.
It was like a who's on firstkind of thing, like the back and
forth, and it was good.

Garry (23:01):
I don't know how they know who's next when they do
scenes like that.
I know it's so fast and witted.

Amy (23:06):
I know it's like oh my goodness, how many takes did it
take to do that.

Garry (23:10):
It was perfect.

Amy (23:11):
It was good, it was really good.
Did you um?
Did you want to do a couple, ordo you want me to keep um?
How do you want to do it too?

Garry (23:18):
Well, I was going to jump off of yours too, because that
was one of my favorite scenestoo.
Um, where you know Oliver,shane, norman and Rita.
They meet up at Raymond'srestaurant to inform each other
that they're pregnant.

Amy (23:30):
They're pregnant.
Right, right, right.

Garry (23:32):
And they don't know.
They just know that Norman andRita are adopting and they're
waiting for the lady to have thesurrogate, to have the baby,
and Ramon comes out first.
You know, and he's like youknow, you want mimosas and both
Shane and Rita, you know declineand nobody thinks anything of
it.
And poor Norman, he's like youknow, you want mimosas and both
Shane and Rita.
You know decline and nobodythinks anything of it.
And poor Norman, he's like yeah.

Amy (23:54):
I'll take one.
That would be me, please.
Where are you going?
I'm not having any more babies.
Give me some wine, that wouldbe me.

Garry (24:00):
And then they start going into the baby scene and it's
like how many babies?

Amy (24:06):
Three babies, Four babies and it's like how many babies?
Three babies, four babies, fivebabies, because they say
they're expecting and they'relike yeah.
And then Oliver's like yeah, weknow, you guys are expecting.
They're like no, we're really.

Garry (24:15):
And then that's when Shane and Rita both realized the
mimosas.
Neither one of them took themimosa.

Amy (24:23):
Right.

Garry (24:24):
And they turned to each other like we're pregnant, right
?
And then you could see thepeople behind them were all like
laughing you know, it was apretty cool scene.
Yeah, so that was my firstfavorite scene, yeah, so what
about another one for you?

Amy (24:38):
Mine were kind of brief, shane's and all of them really,
except maybe Oliver, herexcitedness about Vegas.

Garry (24:45):
Yes.

Amy (24:45):
Like was it about Vegas or was it about the backstage
passes?
Because she was going to see afamous singer?
You know, I didn't know.
I just thought that that wasreally cute and fun.

Garry (24:54):
Yeah, and how did she get those backstage passes she
hacked into?

Amy (24:58):
Ticketmaster.
That's right, that's right.

Garry (25:01):
And she got the tickets for them backstage she hacked in
yes.
He's packed in.
Yes, that's my kind of person.

Amy (25:07):
So that was just another one.
I just thought that scene too,and they were all excited, and
Oliver was, I guess, excited,but in his own way.

Garry (25:14):
Yes.

Amy (25:14):
He just keeps his yeah.

Garry (25:15):
Oh my goodness Yep.

Amy (25:17):
What about you?

Garry (25:18):
This wasn't really a scene, but throughout the movie,
where Rita was always eating.

Amy (25:24):
Oh, yes, yes.

Garry (25:25):
And then Shane was always like ready to throw up or
something.

Amy (25:29):
So Rita is pregnant and she's really hungry all the time
, yeah, all the time.

Garry (25:33):
And.

Amy (25:33):
Shane is pregnant and is not hungry and feels sick all
the time.

Garry (25:38):
So I thought that was a fun play.
Yeah, that was kind of funBetween the both of them.

Amy (25:43):
Yeah.

Garry (25:44):
You got any more.

Amy (25:45):
The Oliver and Joe scenes I thought were really good.

Garry (25:48):
Yes, like the one in the attic.

Amy (25:50):
oh yeah, that was a good scene the second one, I guess in
the attic, when oliver, youknow, is clearly upset with joe
for not giving him hisbiological dad's letters right
and you know I thought it wasjust kind of profound when joe
admits you know I I basicallylike I didn't want you to like
him better, he wasn't in yourlife, like he's not here for the

(26:12):
hard stuff, like I had to bethe one to punish you, I had to
be the one to say no to you.
And it is hard, being theparent who's structured, who you
know has to do that, becausethen the other one just looks
glorified.
And he was afraid of that, eventhough you know, know well
that's not what ended uphappening, but it happens, yeah.
So I just, I just thought theirscenes and then of course the

(26:33):
scene at the end, so kind oftheir scenes together you know
that eric maybe is the actor andgregory harrison the actor.

Garry (26:41):
Just really, really worked yeah, that's oliver and
joe.
Yeah, um, again jumping off ofthat.
I like near near the end whereshane tells oliver that because
oliver's when they get back fromthe trip he's still mad about
the letters.
And shane tells him you know,you know, joe sent you 46

(27:03):
letters and you didn't, youreturned them and didn't read
any of them.
And then you know your, yourbiological dad, harvey, sends
you almost as many and you readthem all and she then says
reminds Oliver Harvey gave youlife, joe O'Toole gave you a
life, yes, that was a reallygood line and I thought that was

(27:25):
really profound, I agree.
I totally agree.
I was like ooh, okay, chills.

Amy (27:30):
That's a truth bomb right there.
I know she dropped some truthbombs that Shane did.

Garry (27:33):
She did.
But yeah, that was another oneof my good, my favorite scenes.

Amy (27:37):
She's kind of you know.
For Oliver, based on what we'veseen so far, you know she's
sort of like the calming, theconscience because he's so and
not rigid.
I don't want to say rigid is aword.

Garry (27:49):
Right, right.
That's kind of like you to me.

Amy (27:53):
Really, you're the calming of me.

Garry (27:56):
I'm like the storm, you know, and you're like calm down.
It's okay, it's okay.

Amy (28:02):
There was one other thing that I wanted to mention.

Garry (28:05):
One of my favorite scenes is you know, I have to say, I
love a suit too.
But come on, when you're on aroad trip, give a brother some
comfortable clothes.

Amy (28:16):
But that's Oliver's character.
I know that's Oliver'scharacter.
Yes, that's his character.

Garry (28:19):
But they were at a stop and he's outside doing some
exercise in a suit.

Amy (28:23):
Suit yes.

Garry (28:23):
Come on.

Amy (28:24):
Maybe that was the point of that.
Okay, okay, yeah, I justthought that was the point of
that, okay okay, yeah, I justthought that was funny.

Garry (28:29):
I'm like give me some sweatpants or some shorts and
some flip-flops and I'm good togo.

Amy (28:32):
That's funny.
Give a brother some comfyclothes, but he would not be
comfortable in comfy clothesprobably no no, no, he's out.

Garry (28:40):
So do you have any more?

Amy (28:42):
Just one more.
When Oliver does decide to readthe letters that his biological
dad has left him and he thinksShane is asleep, you know, and
he kind of you can tell he wantsto read them- so he kind of
starts to read them and she'snot really asleep and she smiles
because she knows that's whathe needed to do.

Garry (29:01):
Right.

Amy (29:01):
Regardless of what comes of , it like he needed to read
those letters.

Garry (29:05):
Yeah.

Amy (29:06):
So he could move forward so .
I just that was it.
What about you?

Garry (29:09):
No, that was it.
I think I touched on all myfavorite scenes.

Amy (29:12):
You touched on all of them, Although would you camp or
glamp, I don't know, oh, I wouldglamp Me too.
Now, an RV would be different.
I would stay in an RV.
Yeah, when you say camping, Iwouldn't tent camp anymore Me
either I did that, and I justdon't enjoy it so much.

Garry (29:33):
It's too hot, too humid, too many bugs.

Amy (29:35):
I don't.
I just don't enjoy it.

Garry (29:37):
Give me a comfortable bed with some AC.

Amy (29:38):
I'm good to go yes.
With a bottle of wine.
Indoor plumbing.

Garry (29:43):
I'm all about that.

Amy (29:44):
So you know that's kind of what about you.
You said, yeah, you.

Garry (29:49):
Oh no, I definitely glanced.

Amy (29:50):
It's sort of a, I mean, if we had a nice RV.

Garry (29:52):
Yeah.

Amy (29:53):
Had a bathroom and a shower and stuff.
Yes, I'm okay with that.

Garry (29:56):
Yes, I, I would do that, but not outside with the little
critters.
No, I'm not laying on theground.
Nope, nope, nope.
Listening to some crickets.

Amy (30:03):
Not doing it not doing it.
No.

Garry (30:05):
So do you have any cheers ?
What?

Amy (30:08):
was your biggest cheer, what I mentioned earlier.
I guess my biggest cheer orcheers would be the messaging
and the nuggets of wisdom.
Yes, you know, I think I didn'tmention that.
You know, when they talk abouthow we're all on display all the
time, you know we're alwaysconnected and um, I just, you

(30:30):
know, I mean I know I'm guiltyof it, and it would be so
difficult, I think, to go offthe grid.
I mean, sometimes I wouldn'tmind it.

Garry (30:37):
Right.

Amy (30:37):
Like the good old days of what the nineties I mean?

Garry (30:40):
I don't know you know when you go completely off the
grid.

Amy (30:43):
Early 90s, yeah, maybe 2000s, maybe even early 2000s,
before we had smartphones andall this other jazz, but or
before I did anyway.
Yeah, I mean, I just think someof the things that were said,
like at the very beginning, whenOliver says in a world where
privacy now seems archaic andthat kind of goes along with you

(31:04):
know, going off the grid andyou know, kind of staying off
the grid and not being on yourphone the whole time.
Trust the timing you alreadymentioned.
Harvey Schmidt gave you life,but Joseph O'Toole, yeah, or
some of the other ones, oh, whenShane says to Nate a life,
basically you've had everythingA life full of fans and groupies

(31:26):
, everything you've dreamed of,and yet you still carry a torch
for the one girl you can't have.
Right, I mean, isn't thatalways the case too?

Garry (31:34):
That is.

Amy (31:35):
Money doesn't buy everything, it helps.

Garry (31:37):
Yes, it does help, it helps, it helps a lot.

Amy (31:40):
But you can still be lonely and wish for the one that got
away.
And what a mysterious,magnificent mess life can be.
And that's so true too.

Garry (31:52):
Oh, boy is it.

Amy (31:53):
Yeah, yes, it is.
What about you?
Any cheers?

Garry (31:57):
Yeah, I too.
I thought it was what Nate didor continued to do.
So you know, tracy wrote thesongs that made him famous.
He sang them and it made himfamous and he had to keep that a
secret.
And the profits from thosesongs becoming hit songs he sent

(32:17):
back to her, because she wouldalways send him the songs.
Yeah, that was really cool tooand the pages she had the PO box
and the zip code, kind ofcode-ish.

Amy (32:26):
Yeah, that was cool.

Garry (32:28):
I really liked it.

Amy (32:28):
I really enjoyed that part and the fact he sent her the
money, right, he could have keptit.
He could have been like byeRight, I'm famous, I can do
whatever I Like.
She didn't, but he didn't,right, right.
And you know, it's really coolkind of to jump off what you
just said and kind of what I wasjust talking about is you know
you can stay under the radarthese days by writing a letter

(32:48):
Right, Because you are off thegrid.

Garry (32:50):
You know, that's so true, that's so true.

Amy (32:54):
Like it'd still be postmarked and everything.
And he said she would send themfrom different.
He'd have to send those todifferent locations because she
was on the move.
But you know, it's just funnynow that that's the way to stay
under the radar you know.

Garry (33:06):
So hint, if you want to stay under the radar, write
letters to each other.

Amy (33:09):
Write letters, Well, no, I mean, I guess you could get
caught that way too, but shealso moved around.

Garry (33:14):
But then it becomes a felony right.

Amy (33:16):
Well, yeah, let's go.

Garry (33:17):
The other cheer I had was when Oliver given Camille six
more weeks before turning her in.

Amy (33:24):
I thought that was so gracious.

Garry (33:27):
He didn't have to do that because he's such a stickler
for the rules.

Amy (33:30):
For the rules yes, and for him.

Garry (33:33):
I'm sure it was hard, but you could tell when he first
met her in the church that hewas struggling with it.
He was sitting there aloneright looking at the cross and
you could just tell he was.

Amy (33:45):
There was a conflict well, and I thought I thought the
movie at that point was reallyinteresting too, because he
needed that time yes, for aminute before she got there, it
was good that she wasn't on timeor, like he, that was his
self-reflection moment yep rightwhere he went in there but
that's a really, really goodpoint, though, about him,
because he is, you know,religious right, he's got a deep

(34:09):
faith and he does do the rightthing and he has strong values,
so that kind of plays into that.

Garry (34:15):
Right.

Amy (34:15):
He still does the right thing, but he also.

Garry (34:19):
Yeah.

Amy (34:19):
Put some faith in her to not get to her daughter's
birthday and not run herdaughter's 18th birthday.

Garry (34:27):
Yeah, that was really that was cool, because he put
his career on the line for that.

Amy (34:32):
But that was it yeah.

Garry (34:33):
Did you have any jeers?

Amy (34:35):
Let's go back to one more cheer.
Oh, one more cheer Got to go,one more cheer the Oxford comma,
the Oxford comma, the Oxfordcomma, the Oxford comma.
When he's reading the letterand his dad says something like
if you find yourself clinging tothe Oxford comma as I do, you
are my son, or something likethat, and he has like a light
bulb moment, you know there arethings that his dad says that
are, but do you?

Garry (34:56):
No, that was very for me.
I know Very touching because Iam a fan of the oxford comma and
use it some people don't.

Amy (35:08):
Do.
You know what it is?
No, tell us.
So it is a comma placed beforethe final item in a list of
three or more things so so if touse sign sealed delivered.
But I'm going to throw an andin there, even though it's not.
Right right right, so a commawould be after signed.

Garry (35:25):
Right.

Amy (35:26):
Sealed.

Garry (35:27):
Yes.

Amy (35:27):
Oh, I'm sorry, Three or more things.
So it would be signed, sealed,delivered and lost.
Right right right, so the commawould be after sign sealed and
the word delivered.
Then you'd have and lost.
Some people don't put thatcomma after delivered.

Garry (35:43):
Oh wow, that's bad.
I can't take that.

Amy (35:46):
I know I correct that I know, I know I correct that,
that's okay, yeah, we all haveour thing.
So there you go.
But yeah, I did like that.
That was a little nugget inthere.

Garry (35:57):
All right, so did you have any jeers?

Amy (36:00):
The only, you know, the only jeer and you kind of
mentioned it would be him doingthe stretches in front of the RV
.
I just didn't get it, unless Iforgot about something.

Garry (36:12):
Or maybe it just was supposed to be funny because
he's in a suit.

Amy (36:13):
Yeah, I think it was just.
You know that I mean thatreally I don't know.
So that would be if I had topick a jeer.
What about you.
Did you have a jeer?

Garry (36:21):
Yes, I had one.

Amy (36:22):
Okay, one, okay, that's me.

Garry (36:24):
When both actors were singing, when Nate sang and when
Tracy sang in the end.
Yeah, why was the microphonenot up close to them?
It was so low.

Amy (36:35):
Oh, I didn't even notice that.
So you're like a cent, right,that's such an easy thing to do
it's like they didn't even careoh well, I mean it was like the
microphone was on the floor.
I did not even notice thatthat's so funny.

Garry (36:49):
That was my that would be your.
My dear.
Did you have any other?

Amy (36:54):
scenes.
No, no, any other nuggets.
I had one, I had one more.
Go ahead, one, one more.

Garry (36:58):
Go ahead One more, and I thought it was so cool that
Tracy Amber and their mom got toreunite at the gala for the
museum.

Amy (37:07):
Yeah.

Garry (37:08):
And then, as Tracy was singing, you know, oliver walked
Camille out to the FBI orwhoever.
And then you see him looking athis watch and you're not really
sure what he's doing.
But then the next scene is himwalking in with Nate.
So Tracy got to reunite withNate again.
Yes so she had two reunions.

Amy (37:27):
Yeah, that's true.
Actually two, I know right shedid.
She had two reunions.

Garry (37:33):
So that was it for me.

Amy (37:35):
Oh, cool, all right, is that a wrap?

Garry (37:37):
Well, we got to cork it.

Amy (37:39):
We got to cork it.

Garry (37:40):
So what did you give it?
What would you give it?

Amy (37:42):
Out of five corks, I'd probably give it a solid four
and a half.

Garry (37:45):
Four and a half, yeah, I think four and a half corks.
How about you?
I'm going to go with probablyfour and a half.
Maybe, you know, I don't know,I don't know.
I thought it was good, Ithought it was entertaining.
I thought it was very spiritualand you know had a lot of good
moments.
But yeah, I'm going to go witha four and a half.

Amy (38:06):
Four and a half, all right, cool.
So, that is a wrap.

Garry (38:09):
That's a wrap.

Amy (38:10):
That's a wrap.

Garry (38:11):
Well, guys, thanks for listening.
Be sure to follow the podcastwherever you listen so you don't
miss one.
Okay.

Amy (38:18):
Okay, what was that?
Drink some more wine.

Garry (38:22):
Also follow us on social media.
We'd love to have you leave usa positive review.
We would really appreciate apositive review.

Amy (38:33):
On Apple or Spotify podcast apps, you know.

Garry (38:35):
Hopefully it's a positive one.
Yeah, we appreciate.
Yes, we do.
We appreciate you, yep, yeah,we appreciate yes we do.

Amy (38:40):
We appreciate you, yep.
Join us next Wednesday for ourreview of the first of the two
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It airs Saturday night, may 3rd2025, on the Hallmark Channel

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