May 20, 2025 • 41 mins
In this episode of Pour The Wine, It's Rom-Com Time, finger-lickin' drama and heartwarming reconciliations take center stage! Join Garry and Amy as they dive deep into the season finale of "The Chicken Sisters.” The much-anticipated conclusion delivers satisfying resolutions while still leaving us hungry for more!
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Amy (00:08):
Welcome to Pour the Wine.
It's rom-com time where we'llsip some wine and review all
things rom-com on the HallmarkChannel.
I'm Amy and I'm Gary.
Are you ready to pour the wine?
Garry (00:17):
Yes, yes, it's time to pour the wine.
Amy (00:20):
Yes it is.
Garry (00:21):
And what do we have today ?
Amy (00:23):
We, I think A cab sap A cab sap?
That would be very shocking.
We'd love a cab sap, althoughwe did have some Chardonnay.
Yes, we did Over the weekend,so we threw in some chard again.
Garry (00:34):
Yes, we did, we like a dry white on occasion.
Amy (00:36):
It was perfect for like the warmer weather.
Yes, when the porch, it'sreally good Watching everyone
else's children run by.
Garry (00:47):
We don't have to worry about it because ours are grown
up and lately we have somereally good porch weather.
Amy (00:50):
Yeah, we have.
We've had some really goodporch weather.
Can you believe we're about toreview the season finale of the
Chicken Sisters?
Garry (00:58):
No, I cannot.
It's finally here.
It seems like we just startedyesterday.
Amy (01:00):
Spoiler alert.
I just gave away what we werereviewing.
Garry (01:02):
Sorry, oh, that's okay, we're going to have a lot of
those spoilers.
Amy (01:07):
Yeah, speaking of spoilers, that's the first one.
Garry (01:17):
Every time you hear the word spoiler, take a sip of wine
.
Well, we would love it if youwould click that follow button
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Oh, wow.
Okay, sorry Go ahead If youlisten on Apple or Spotify.
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Amy (01:34):
We hope so.
We would really appreciateanybody taking the time to post
a review.
Garry (01:39):
Yes, because we will answer you back or you will.
Amy (01:44):
One of us will.
Garry (01:46):
You're good at that stuff , not me.
Anyways, you can also find uson social media.
Amy (01:51):
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Garry (01:52):
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Amy (01:56):
Yes, please head on over to the socials and let us know
what you thought about the firstseason of the Chicken Sisters.
Garry (02:01):
Yes.
Amy (02:01):
I'd be curious to know everyone's thoughts.
I really haven't looked up anyreviews or what people are
saying, I mean we've listened toa few podcasts, just to kind of
see if we're on the same pagesometimes.
Yeah, um, but uh, other thanthat, I haven't really looked
because I haven't wanted totaint anything and you know I
didn't want to taint our we'dlike to save it.
(02:22):
Yeah, save it for the podcastbecause did drop what in the
fall on Hallmark Plus.
So a lot of people have alreadyseen it.
Yep, and I didn't want anyspoilers and I didn't read the
book.
You didn't read the book.
Garry (02:33):
No, I did not, so we literally had no idea what was
going to happen all season.
No, we got some things rightand we got some things wrong,
yep, but overall we did a goodjob, I think, I think so.
So today we're reviewing theseason finale of season one, the
Chicken Sisters the bestchicken in town y'all which
aired on the Hallmark Channel onSunday, may 28th 2025.
Amy (02:56):
No.
Garry (02:56):
May 18th.
Oh sorry, my eyes did a doublecross there.
Spoiler alert 18th Take a sipyeah right May 18th 2025.
If you missed it, you can catchit in all of the episodes on
Hallmark Plus.
Yes, yes.
Take a sip.
Take a sip Anyway so are weadding anybody to the list of
(03:17):
actors and actresses on this one?
Amy (03:19):
We are not.
I believe we've covered themall.
Garry (03:27):
I don't think anyone new showed up, except maybe via text
to sergio, but we don't knowwho that is.
Amy (03:31):
Oh, but we have a good idea .
So okay, yeah, in season twowe'll find out yeah but um, no,
because I think if you want tohear the actors and actresses
who are in it, go to our otherepisodes.
Garry (03:43):
Yes, Episode one, two and three.
Amy (03:46):
Yeah, at least.
And then I think we sprinkledin some more, in some other
episode reviews of the actors asthey showed up and actresses.
So there you go, yeah.
Garry (03:55):
Yeah, it's hard to keep up with all of them.
There were so many, there were,but you did a really good job.
Amy (03:59):
There were quite a few, okay, thank you so you want to
have some trivia.
Let's do it, let's do sometrivia I love not knowing things
.
Let me take a sip while you'regetting ready.
Garry (04:12):
Okay, go ahead, here we go, lay it on me, lay it on me,
me, me, me, me.
Anyway, what profession do manyHallmark movie leads often have
in Hallmark movies?
Amy (04:23):
and TV series.
Oh, you're catching me offguard.
Often have in Hallmark moviesand TV series.
My brain is like bleh.
Garry (04:27):
What professions do they usually play?
Attorney.
Amy (04:31):
Chocolatiers.
Garry (04:33):
We've seen a lot of those lately.
Yes, we have lately.
Amy (04:35):
yes, that's the first thing that comes in Advertisers,
publicists I don't know, bakers,help me, yes, bakers, writers,
writers, planners yes, yes,photographers.
I didn't know that, yeah Icouldn't think that that wasn't.
You know, you put me on thespot royals, royals love me
(04:56):
royal.
Garry (04:57):
I know right, I know I know, so is it?
That was that was good trivia.
Yeah, it was, I thought so andI was terrible.
Yeah, you did pretty good, sois it time to drop the synopsis?
For season one, episode eight.
Amy (05:10):
The best chicken in town, y'all.
A final twist in the realitycompetition throws both the
Mimi's and Franny's crews for aloop, and Frank Jr's true colors
are revealed.
Garry (05:23):
Yes, they were.
Amy (05:27):
Were, I don't think it just happened in this last episode
but we can discuss.
Garry (05:32):
Let's just say that water is boiling over.
Amy (05:35):
All right now.
This is a spoiler alert.
Garry (05:37):
So press pause, press pause, go watch it and then come
back and listen to our podcast.
Amy (05:45):
Yes, because we will, in discussing things, give some
things away.
We're going to talk about theend and what's sort of lingering
.
So press pause, go watch theseason finale and then come back
.
That's your spoiler alert.
Garry (05:59):
You've been warned.
Amy (06:00):
How many times have we said spoiler.
People should be.
What four or five subs?
Garry (06:03):
Yeah, they should be feeling pretty good right now.
At least I am anyways.
Amy (06:08):
Yeah, so at the end of last season we're fresh off what we
thought was one of the bestepisodes, right?
Garry (06:14):
Yes, could have been a finale there.
Amy (06:17):
Yeah, we both thought it could have been a finale.
Garry (06:18):
Yeah, because it was to me if they would have left Gus
passed out.
Yeah, Until next season.
Yes, that would have beenawesome.
Amy (06:28):
Yep, yep.
So we see.
Nancy realizes that Frank Jrwas the one that called the
health inspector.
Garry (06:34):
Yep.
Amy (06:35):
Frank Jr continued to show that he's an ass.
Garry (06:39):
Yes, the town rallied around Gus.
Hey Right.
Amy (06:43):
May and Amanda got closer.
Yep, jay showed Gus hey, right,may and Amanda got closer.
Garry (06:44):
Yep.
Amy (06:45):
Jay showed up.
Garry (06:46):
Jay For.
Amy (06:47):
May rolled his sleeves up and dove right in to May's life.
Garry (06:50):
He sure did.
Amy (06:51):
Sabrina and Lindsey are at odds again.
Garry (06:54):
Yep.
Amy (06:55):
As are Frankie and Lindsey.
Garry (06:57):
Yep.
Amy (06:58):
And Gus lights her house on fire and collapses.
Garry (07:00):
Now.
Amy (07:00):
That's kind of where we are .
Lighting your house on fire andletting it burn to the ground.
Garry (07:08):
That's a way to start over.
That could have been an awesomecliffhanger.
It could have been, but youstill would have had the chicken
competition.
Amy (07:14):
lingering, would you want?
Garry (07:15):
to wait a whole season for that.
That's true too.
Amy (07:17):
That's true, I mean, I think that it was good enough to
be a finale.
I mean, we loved that episode.
We weren't completely wrong, Idon't think, but there was
definitely things to tidy up.
And especially since they didn'tknow if they were getting a
season two Right.
So you want to wrap things upand there's a lot of places they
can go still, Yep, but youdefinitely want to tie.
(07:40):
I mean the series.
I'm glad it's not ending, butit could have ended on the
season finale because they didtie a lot of things up.
Garry (07:47):
Yeah, yeah, I thought so, yeah, so.
Amy (07:50):
So where do you, where would you like to start?
I do have some tidbits aboutthe differences between the book
and the series, by the way.
You want me to hold on to thoseuntil the end.
Garry (08:01):
No, go ahead, let's bring them up, okay.
Amy (08:06):
What?
Um no go ahead let's, let'sbring them up.
Okay, go ahead.
So I didn't.
We already meant we didn't readthe book.
No, we didn't have any spoilers, but I just decided to look up
what are the differences.
Now that we watched the eighth,you know the final episode to
see, and this is probably goingto blow your mind a little bit.
So amanda is widowed in thebook oh frank jr is not alive
(08:27):
really in the book, right, she'swidowed.
Now I don't know how he died orif they talk about it, but and
they were saying that you knowfrank jr on the screen kind of,
adds the producer.
I think was saying somethinglike having him part of the
story gives you more of abackground for Amanda's.
Right why she's making somedecisions that she's making.
(08:49):
So I thought, which makes sense, because the whole thing with
Sergio isn't in the book either,so Huh.
Garry (08:57):
Yeah, okay.
Amy (08:58):
So May is married with kids .
Garry (09:01):
Oh May.
Amy (09:02):
But they opted not to go that route Right with kids who
may.
But they opted not to go thatroute right because this is
according to the producer itwould have just added that many
more characters to keep up withand there's already so many and
we're peeling back the layersright of everybody every episode
, so, um, so I thought it waskind of cool and to give her a
little, and you know, it gaveher room to grow too yes, before
(09:23):
she settles down, and so Ithought that was kind of cool.
Garry (09:26):
I agree with what you told me.
Amy (09:26):
Now the author, kj D'Antonia.
She was not involved in theadaptation because she basically
has said I'm a book writer, nota screenwriter, and she sort of
gave them free reign-ish.
She did want it to take placein Kansas because she felt like
Kansas didn't get enough.
There's a lot of small townsand a lot of states but Kansas
(09:47):
is rarely represented and shewent to high school and college
there and she really wantedKansas to be represented.
I thought that was pretty cool.
Garry (09:54):
I think that's a.
Amy (09:55):
And she was actually inspired by two chicken
restaurants in Kansas where sheGet out of here, where she lived
, and she said her and herfamily went to one of them but
not the other, and so sheexpanded on that idea and
thought, I thought that wasreally cool.
Garry (10:07):
That's pretty cool.
Amy (10:08):
And season one covers the storylines in the book in their
entirety.
Okay, so when they move forward, they're going to take those
characters that she sobrilliantly wrote in the book
and just go off with them andthey have so many different ways
they can go.
So anyway, that's just a littletidbit about what I read.
Garry (10:26):
That's pretty interesting .
Amy (10:28):
Pretty interesting, so what ?
Did you think about the finale?
Garry (10:32):
Oh my, God, the truth is it was flavorful.
Amy (10:37):
Flavorful.
Oh, okay, we're going with some.
Okay, and very, very satisfying, very satisfying.
Garry (10:42):
Like finger licking.
Good Okay.
Amy (10:44):
That's where we're going with this.
I see what you're doing here.
I see what you're doing here.
Yes.
Garry (10:49):
Finger licking good.
Amy (10:51):
Yeah.
Garry (10:52):
They tied up everything.
I really enjoyed it.
Amy (10:55):
Yeah, I really enjoyed it.
Garry (10:56):
Yeah, I did too I mean there's a lot of up and down,
emotions and romance.
We found a lot of below thesurface issues that they
actually resolved.
So there was some resolutionyes, so what did you think?
Amy (11:13):
I thought it was good.
I mean, I enjoyed it for whatit was.
I thought it was a really goodepisode.
I didn't think it was one ofthe best episodes.
It was good.
It was good.
Okay, so we're gonna to differin our rating.
I can already tell how manyquirks.
Garry (11:27):
I'm going to say spoiler alert, just so I can take a sip.
Amy (11:30):
Okay.
So, like I said, I thought itwas really good.
It was satisfying as a viewerbecause you do see some things
wrapped up.
You do see some morerevelations about people.
Yes, I mean I think I enjoyedthe series as a whole overall,
just to see the growth of someof the characters and everything
.
So I mean, if we want to getinto it, we find out, you know,
(11:52):
right at the beginning you findout that Gus has MS.
Garry (11:56):
Yes.
Amy (11:57):
That's what she's not told anybody.
Garry (11:59):
And she's not sleeping with Gen.
And she's not she is not, soget your minds out of the gutter
he's a doctor and I don't thinkdid we see him as a doctor.
No, I don't.
They kept that hidden for sevenepisodes, well we figured he
was some kind of what were weguessing like a massage
therapist or something.
Amy (12:15):
We just didn't know for sure.
With the acupuncture,Acupuncture yeah, he is a doctor
.
So we find out that she has MSand she's been hiding it.
And her girls, of course,Amanda and May, are shocked to
find out.
Garry (12:29):
Yeah, they kept that secret.
Yeah, that Gen didn't sayanything.
Amy (12:34):
That Gen didn't say anything.
Their mom didn't say anything,although I'm sure it wasn't
surprising that Gus didn't spillthe beans.
Garry (12:40):
But the look on Amanda's face when she kind of she kind
of asked like why?
Amy (12:45):
and it just dawned on her because the whole town would
have knew, yeah, but then second, yeah, and they get tired of
being talked about and then youfind out pretty much, I think,
at the beginning that franny'shusband og franny her husband
lied yes, just like.
Just like Frank Sr did Sherman.
Garry (13:09):
So he lied and said he had an affair with.
Amy (13:10):
Mimi.
But it turns out it wasn't true, because Frankie found the
letter from the real baby, daddy.
Garry (13:16):
Yeah.
Amy (13:16):
That's funny, yes, but we don't know who he is.
Garry (13:23):
Not yet.
Amy (13:24):
And then we also find out that Mimi gave the baby up for
adoption so I think that leavessomething open too yeah where
who's the who's the baby yeah,and I think and who is it in the
town?
How old would the baby be,though?
Garry (13:41):
that's a good question.
It it would have to be agrandmother yeah, I just know
yeah, and we'll get to thatpoint where I think we find may
oh, yes, oh, now I'm putting ittogether now you're putting it
there, you go.
Amy (13:55):
I didn't at the time.
Okay, I'm dumb, all right, allright so anyway, so, and gus,
when she's laying in bed, whatis this?
The gulag you're gonna you knowshe is so funny.
Garry (14:04):
I love her man.
Amy (14:05):
She is great yeah and she realizes she has to have help
right because she gets.
They have to put her in awheelchair for a little bit
because it's hard for her, youknow, to walk which I am shocked
right away.
Garry (14:16):
She was okay with being put in the in the wheelchair,
but I think well, she burned herhouse down like she's ready,
but you see how she ripped offthe ivs and everything she was
like I think she, just in thatmoment, realizes, you know, she
has to have help.
Amy (14:33):
There's no way around it, she's got to have the help.
Garry (14:37):
Well, just think about it when she was growing up, she
didn't have help and she had twolittle kids Right.
And now she's at an age whereshe just wants to.
Hey look, y'all want to help me.
Help me.
Amy (14:45):
Yeah.
Garry (14:46):
Which I thought was really good.
Amy (14:47):
Yeah, that was really good it, yeah, that was really good.
Garry (14:55):
It was a good turning point for her.
Who do you want to?
Amy (14:56):
kind of dive into.
Let's go with.
Garry (14:57):
May, may.
Okay, yeah, did she come and doany revelations, do you think?
Amy (15:04):
Well, I mean.
Garry (15:07):
I feel like with her and Jay.
I think she finally let thewhat's the word I'm looking for.
Amy (15:20):
The control that she always had to have.
Yeah, she gives it up a littlebit.
Garry (15:21):
Yeah, because she was kind of a control freak, Not
with.
You know, you need to do this,you need to do that.
Amy (15:26):
Well, she kind of was she just needed to have that control
of the situation.
Of her life and the narrativeand everything.
Garry (15:35):
And maybe it was part of her show personality coming out
in real life, or maybe it wasvice versa, I don't know, but I
felt like she really, you know,just like Gus, just let it go.
Amy (15:47):
I feel like she grew the most over the season.
Garry (15:50):
I mean.
Amanda in this episode finallycomes around you know, oh boy,
did she come around and owns it.
Amy (15:56):
But yeah, mae, she definitely.
I mean, I just love her andJay's relationship even more
after this episode.
You know, you see, Mae gets anopportunity to go back on her
show.
Yeah, they wanted her back.
They want her back.
And what does she?
She tells Gus that.
Garry (16:12):
Oh, my goodness, and gus.
Amy (16:14):
I love the line where gus well before you know gus says
something like well, I guessthose fan checks are going to
start coming back, which Ithought was really funny.
Garry (16:22):
The fan story, the fan incident that she believed she
was getting money from, andthere it is and there, yeah, but
she said she's proud of her andmay's like what she slowly
turns and says what Did you justsay you're proud of me.
And then she spanks her on thebutt.
Amy (16:37):
And then Gus is like maybe I should let some of my inside
thoughts come out every once andagain.
So that was so she's comingaround, you know, I mean it's
hard to teach an old dog newtricks, right, and she is, she's
trying.
Yes, she is she's trying to notbe in her own way.
Garry (16:54):
She's really putting in effort, and so is May, yeah, and
I think by just everybodyknowing about what they already
knew about.
She was a hoarder, but by andnow everybody knows about the MS
.
She doesn't have to hide itanymore and you can just tell
the weight lifted off hershoulders.
She's just, she's smiling more.
Amy (17:13):
I mean, it's just, and can you, can we, the three women who
are like the gossipy women?
Of the town when the sheriffasked them about the fire do you
think it's intentionally setand there would have been a time
where they're because they'rejust dying to gossip?
Right, they want to talk aboutit.
Garry (17:28):
Right.
Amy (17:29):
And they don't.
They defend her.
Garry (17:30):
Yes, they do.
Amy (17:31):
And instead of gossiping and telling the truth, they're
like must have been a lightningstorm, which I thought was
really kind of a cool turnaroundfor them also.
You know, now they're stillprobably going to be the town
gossipers, but in that momentthey defended Gus and I think
Gus doesn't realize how much thetown really loves her, despite
(17:51):
her exterior of hardness andthey get him to agree with them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a roadlike that, yeah.
Garry (18:02):
That was a really good scene too, so what did you think
about Jay?
Amy (18:06):
Jay.
I loved his exploration too.
He's supposed to be, so Jay issupposed to be packing and
getting the rental car right yes, a rental car or something for
them to get ready to go back toNew York, and while May is,
doing the competition right andhelping with the competition,
(18:28):
but then you see him strollingaround and and you know and the
town.
And what does he have?
Some ice cream.
Like he's just really soakingin the peace.
Garry (18:38):
He's skipping rocks.
Amy (18:39):
Right, right.
And what do I always say?
Unapologetically protect yourpeace.
Garry (18:43):
Yes.
Amy (18:43):
Right, and you don't necessarily have to go to a
small town to do that.
But if you live in New YorkCity, I would imagine you know
sometimes you might want anescape just for a little bit at
least you know to go, but hereally is liking it and he
doesn't have a job to go back toanymore.
Garry (18:59):
Right.
Amy (18:59):
That was another revelation , right.
Garry (19:01):
Yep.
Amy (19:03):
In the last episodes that he quit his job.
Garry (19:05):
He quit his job.
Amy (19:07):
So now he's realizing hey, maybe this is pretty cool and
it's so interesting to mebecause May couldn't wait to get
out of that town.
Garry (19:15):
No.
Amy (19:15):
She hated that.
Well, her childhood was sotraumatic and she, you know, had
all the things and she justwanted out and she wanted, she
thought she wanted to be betterand people to see her in a
different light, not come from aplace like that, and all he
wants to do is stay there.
Garry (19:29):
Right.
Amy (19:30):
You know, so it's kind of cool, so, and then at the end,
of course, she she barges in andshe's putting her foot down
saying, right, I'm staying.
I know we shouldn't yeah.
Garry (19:43):
Maybe not forever, but I need to be here and he pretty
much he's like hold on.
Yeah, wait a minute, let mespeak.
Amy (19:51):
Yeah, and he hold on.
Garry (19:51):
yeah, wait a minute, let me speak, yeah, and he tells her
I didn't pack, I didn't get therental car yeah she kind of
looks down like what, and thenhe goes in to tell her that you
know, he, what was the one?
He talked about?
A blue bluebird oh the word.
Amy (20:05):
I saw a bluebird.
Get the, or what is it no feedthe worm to its baby today, or
something like that.
Garry (20:11):
And in New York, all I see is pigeons eating cigarette
butts.
It's so true.
Amy (20:15):
That was so nasty.
That was nasty when you take in.
Sometimes it's the littlethings, right, yeah.
Yeah, that was pretty good andhe saw the house with the for
sale sign on it.
Garry (20:23):
Yeah, and she kind of was like oh my God, you know that,
look on her face, yeah.
Amy (20:38):
So face, yeah, so there, I just love love their
relationship, so it's prettycool and he's perfect for her
and she's perfect for him in alot of ways, you know, so
they're perfectly imperfect.
Garry (20:41):
Right there you go, there you go.
Yeah, it's pretty cool, allright.
Amy (20:43):
Well, let's touch on amanda then amanda okay, she has some
growth so we have to talk aboutthe competition.
We finally get some of thecooking competition and Frank Jr
goads Sergio into trying topunch him and Sergio punches the
wall instead.
And that causes a whole thing,and in that moment Sabrina also
(21:04):
cuts the camera off.
Yes, because she has come to arealization that she doesn't
necessarily want thesalaciousness and she wants to
do something that her daughteris proud of, and so I thought
she wouldn't have done that atthe beginning.
So her character has evolved too, from the beginning, you know,
to the end and I don't know ifit's like that in the book or
not you know she does changelike that.
Garry (21:26):
Right.
Amy (21:27):
But it's a pretty good evolution for her.
Garry (21:29):
I think so.
Sorry, I digressed from Amanda.
Evolution for her.
I think so.
Sorry, I digressed from Amanda.
No, no.
Amy (21:32):
But yeah.
So then Amanda, we see she'sjust had it with Frank Jr.
Garry (21:38):
Oh yeah.
Amy (21:39):
And then she's like I didn't stay in this relationship
for you, right, I stayed foryou.
And she looks at Nancy.
Garry (21:47):
Yeah, that was a powerful moment, and Nancy's mortified,
you know.
Amy (21:50):
And then Amanda and Nancy jump ship, yeah, and then Amanda
and Nancy, jump ship, yeah, andthey go over to Mimi's side, to
Mimi's side.
Yep, yep, yep.
Garry (21:57):
Leaving Frank all alone.
Amy (22:02):
Well, we need to go back to the letter that Frankie found.
Garry (22:06):
Oh, that was so funny, because what did Frankie say
when she had the letter whichshe found in episode seven?
And then she runs?
Amy (22:18):
I need a grandma summit, yeah, or something like that.
Garry (22:21):
She said I need a grandmother summit.
A grandmother summit, yeah, andthey both looked at her like
what, and so she tells him whatwas in the letter and lets him
read it.
Amy (22:30):
And Gus is like I, you you know, I knew it, yeah, and well,
gus says I didn't need a letterto believe right that they
didn't sleep together, that mimididn't sleep with franny's,
right husband and that, and inthat moment, that changes
everything.
Also because they've had thislong-standing 100-year-old feud
(22:53):
for nothing.
Yep, all because of the guy,because he's a man.
Garry (22:59):
Guys plural.
Amy (23:01):
Guys, yeah, who would rather lie about having an
affair?
That still blows my mind, bythe way.
Then be truthful.
Because of what Greed?
Garry (23:12):
Because they wanted to take over the other one.
Amy (23:14):
They wanted the other one out of the relationship.
Garry (23:16):
Well, that's what abusers do, right?
Yeah, they get what's the wordcalled.
Amy (23:22):
They isolate people, isolate you Well, and that's
what Frank Jr does.
He tries to to Amanda Right.
Garry (23:31):
So let's count the men here.
Amy (23:34):
So you had.
Garry (23:35):
Sherman back in 1912.
Right Right, he tells Frannythat he slept with Mimi, which
was not true.
And then you have Frank Sr whosaid he slept with Gus, just to
get the business which was nottrue.
Just to get the business whichwas not true.
And now you have Frank Jr whokeeps telling Amanda throughout
(23:58):
the show that they don't needthese kind of people.
Yeah, you know, and when Sergiohad punched the wall he told
her that well, they, you knowthey're the ones Like they
started it Gus must have toldthem to tell him to do that.
You know he kept trying toisolate her from her family.
Amy (24:14):
From her family.
Garry (24:15):
And then that's when she goes into telling Nancy that she
loves her and she's proud to beher daughter.
Yeah, and.
Nancy says I'm proud to haveyou as my daughter.
And then they both jump ship,jump ship.
Amy (24:25):
Jump ship and they go to the other side Go to her family,
I guess not the other side andthey leave Frank Jr by himself.
So do we want to talk about?
Garry (24:38):
Frank Jr a little bit.
Since we're there, let me takea sip.
Amy (24:41):
Well, you broke up with him a long time ago, I know but I'm
telling you he's a great actor.
He is really good Because hemade me hate this character.
I'm telling you I hate thischaracter.
Garry (24:52):
Oh, my goodness, and hate is a big word, yeah.
Amy (24:54):
So we've already touched a little bit on him and how he,
you know, talks to Amanda andstill tries to isolate her.
He tries to tell her that youknow, may kept Gus's MS from her
and you don't need those, likeyou said, you don't need those
kind of people in your life andhe just, he's just an ass.
Garry (25:14):
Plain and simple.
Amy (25:15):
He's just you feel for him a little bit in one moment you
know he talks about we find outwhy he got the vasectomy and
it's really sad.
Garry (25:25):
Yes.
Amy (25:26):
You know, in a lot of ways because he didn't want to have a
son that was just like him.
Garry (25:30):
Right, and so he recognizes it, but he doesn't do
anything about it.
Yeah, I thought that was goingto be a turning point, but it
wasn't.
But it wasn't, it was not Right, right, he actually doubled
down on that, but you feel forhim in that moment.
Amy (25:45):
But whereas, like you know, may, she recognizes it and
she's changing, yeah, she'smaking an effort to change.
Garry (25:53):
Yeah.
Amy (25:53):
And he's the opposite.
Garry (25:55):
Complete opposite.
Yeah, so, and who was the?
Was it Maya Angelo?
Amy (26:01):
Yeah.
Garry (26:01):
When people show you who they are believe them, believe
them.
Amy (26:05):
That's one of the truest statements you can ever live by.
Garry (26:08):
Actions speak louder than words.
Amy (26:10):
They really really do those actions showed.
Yeah.
Garry (26:15):
Big time.
Amy (26:15):
And you know you keep.
It reminds me of.
Well, first we'll talk aboutFrank Jr.
He threw the whole series.
When you think about it, he wasan ass.
Garry (26:24):
Yeah.
Amy (26:25):
Like pretty.
And then the time he tried toact nice, he was just pretending
and he reverted right back.
Yeah, right, so you see it inevery episode.
But then it reminded me of theHBO series that we watched,
called the Undoing.
Garry (26:40):
It was with Hugh Grant.
Amy (26:41):
Nicole Kidman and he has this affair and the woman he has
an affair with dies and he'saccused of it.
Garry (26:47):
Right.
Amy (26:48):
And he says he's innocent, and all this.
And I remember the it waseither the producer or the
director, you know.
And then you get to the end ofthat series.
Spoiler alert if you haven'tseen it and you're going to
watch it, pause here.
Garry (26:59):
Press pause.
Amy (27:01):
You find out that he actually did kill her Right and
he's like a monster actually.
He actually did kill her rightand he's like a monster actually
and but through the through,each episode, you're kind of
like your brain gives him thebenefit of the doubt, right, not
?
Just because just like thatmovie but you know it's like you
keep saying oh, you know he's,is that him?
But the, but the director waslike.
(27:22):
We're showing you that we areshowing you who he is and people
didn't want to believe it.
Yeah, because those episodeswere dropped weekly and people
were like I don't believe he did.
There was this big debateonline and everything, and I
remember you know him saying youknow, this is the problem is
that, just like you said, whenpeople show you who they are
(27:43):
believe them because theiractions are not lying.
They and their words might, buttheir actions are not lying.
Garry (27:46):
They totally were not, and their words might but their
actions were not, and that's thecase with Frank Jr.
Yes, sorry, that was my soapbox.
No, that was very good.
Actually I forgot all aboutthat movie, and you and I were
both.
I think you believed it morethan I did.
I kept going no, I don't thinkhe did.
Amy (28:01):
I was like I know he did and I kept saying but Well, no,
but I went back and forth alittle bit too, though I didn't
totally, because then there werescenes and you're like I don't
know, could he have done it?
No, you know, murder so drastic.
Garry (28:16):
It was crazy.
Amy (28:17):
Yeah, yeah, so that so Frank Jr.
Yeah, he, he didn't make anywaves and they showed us who he
was the whole.
Garry (28:24):
The whole time.
Amy (28:24):
Series and that's who he is Yep.
So and I did.
Garry (28:29):
I had that one moment where he talked about his
vasectomy and then that was itand he doubled down so Yep, so
let's talk about Lindsay andFrankie, okay, and their
relationship, because I feltlike that one scene where you
know, throughout the show,lindsay's you know texting
(28:50):
saying you know, hello, I wantto talk to you.
Amy (28:54):
Right, because they're mad at each other.
Garry (28:55):
Because you know the episode prior, sabrina
accidentally said you're onlyhanging out with her because I
told you so and Frankie wasupset about that.
You so and Frankie was upsetabout that.
But that scene where she grabsFrankie by the arm to go talk to
her and just said look, youknow, when I first got here it
was this x, y and z, but nowyou're my friend yeah, we're
(29:19):
friends now yeah but it you canalmost see the thought in
Frankie's mind that I think shewants more.
What do you mean?
Like she wants?
Amy (29:32):
I don't know, but the way you mean like a relationship,
like a relationship.
I don't know that's what I gotfrom that.
I didn't take that at allEspecially, maybe, maybe in the
end, but we'll talk about that.
Yeah, but yeah, I don't know.
Garry (29:51):
Oh, you think she wants more than just friendship,
because she says what are we?
Yeah, or was that at the end?
Amy (29:53):
no, that was, that was them .
Because, yeah, she kind oflindsey kind of put her in the
friend zone and oh well, maybe Imean I don't know, maybe, yeah,
I didn't think about it thatway lindsey did that part really
well.
She did, she was so good job atthat well and she's like it may
have started off that, but nowwe've developed a real
relationship slash friendshipand I'm going to miss you, know
I'm going to miss you.
And there's another relationshipwhere, you know, frankie can't
(30:15):
wait to get out of that smalltown, right?
Because she feels like shelives in this small town and
blah, blah, blah.
And Lindsay hated it at firstbut has come to really like it.
Isn't that crazy Right?
Lindsay hated it at first buthas come to really like it Isn't
that crazy, Right?
Garry (30:27):
I mean so you have that opposite.
Amy (30:29):
You know like.
Garry (30:31):
May and Jay.
Amy (30:32):
Yeah, yeah, it totally happens.
So, I guess we can come to theend.
Well, towards the end, you wantto go back to Amanda and Sergio
?
Yeah, so, Amanda and Sergiohave a talk and Amanda really
realizes she's been in arelationship for, you know, 18
years.
Since high school, since highschool and you know she needs to
(30:53):
be by herself, not because shedoesn't want to pursue something
eventually with Sergio but, hereacts a little bit abruptly to
that, because he says basicallywhat he's not going to wait
around, so we don't know whatthe story is there.
There might be more.
Garry (31:07):
Right.
Amy (31:08):
I think you said maybe.
Garry (31:10):
Is it Well the exchange between them two?
And this was after he hadpunched his hand.
And after the contest she goesto Mimi's and he's sitting there
soaking his hand, but she'stelling them why she doesn't
want that relationship right now, and one of the things she says
is I don't want to make anothermistake or a second mistake.
(31:33):
And then that's when Sergiogets up.
Amy (31:35):
Oh, you're right.
And starts to walk away.
Garry (31:37):
And she's like well, what are you doing?
He goes, well, you just saidyou don't want to make the same
mistake twice and he saidneither do I.
Amy (31:46):
Yeah, so he was on the other end of that at some point.
Yeah, that's what you're led tobelieve.
Yeah, yeah, you're absolutelyright.
We didn't even talk about thecompetition.
Well, we're going to talk aboutit right now.
So they have the competition.
Yes.
Garry (31:59):
So you have everybody against Frank.
Amy (32:00):
Frank Jr is by himself right, himself right, and he
cooks.
Mr chicken is the judge and thetownspeople, the townspeople
all vote for mimi, mimi.
Garry (32:15):
And well, the combination , right, the combination.
Yeah, the chicken, the chickensisters, and they tell their
little story.
Amy (32:18):
And mr chicken, which I thought, was very brilliant, but
mr chicken then, even thoughtheir chicken was better, the
women you can see it on his eyeswhen he bit into it, that juice
running and then he says butchicken is more you know more
than just the meat it's the gutsyou know, and then he talks
about you know, their macho crapwith, you know, with frank his
little podcast.
(32:38):
So he gives it to junior hedeclares frank jr the winner.
Garry (32:45):
Yep.
Amy (32:45):
And then Sabrina loses her mind.
She's like I'm it, that's it,I'm out, I'm done.
You can't possibly think thatthat chicken was better.
Garry (32:52):
Yep.
Amy (32:53):
And she just.
Garry (32:54):
She dropped the mic.
Amy (32:55):
Yep, she dropped the mic.
Garry (32:56):
She dropped the mic Because she's had enough too.
Yeah, because she said that'swhen she do something that her
daughter would be proud of.
Yes, and I thought that wassome, some very good character
growth from her.
Amy (33:11):
She has some really good growth throughout.
Yeah, yeah, and her characterwas so funny and at times and up
and down that episode when shewas hung over, I'm sorry, that's
just the funniest thing I likehow she went around and said.
Garry (33:22):
what did she say?
I quit, I, I quit, I quit.
Amy (33:25):
I'm done, done, done, did she say, done, it was something,
but she kept turning toeverybody.
Garry (33:29):
It's like I'm done, I'm done, and then she stops, she
walks off camera and then shecomes back and says something
else and then she leaves.
And Lindsay, was she, said.
I can't remember what Lindsaysaid, but it was something.
Amy (33:40):
I don't.
She smiled when her mom saidshe quit, I can't remember what
she actually said.
Garry (33:44):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
She thought that was badassthat her mom did that.
Amy (33:46):
Yeah, that was pretty cool, yeah, and then there's Shauna.
Garry (33:51):
Oh, she is probably my favorite character she's so good
, she's so funny.
Amy (33:59):
She's so funny because she talks to Mr Chicken and she's
like like she's all into him andhe's eating it up right like he
thinks she is into him and heis like oh, she wants my advice
and he gives her all this advice, and then you find out she was
using him to get the informationwhich is so good.
Garry (34:20):
If there's a badass in this show is her.
Was she.
She played it to the T when shecame walking in, when the
singing went back to Mimi's.
They're packing up Because ofcourse, they didn't win.
Amy (34:34):
They didn't have money.
It's Gus Nancy and.
Amanda Mae?
Yeah, I think Everybody butFrank Jr, basically yeah.
Garry (34:42):
And they're packing up and in comes Shauna and she's
like do y'all need some help?
And Nancy turns around to gohand her a box and she goes no,
not that kind of help.
Amy (34:52):
And everybody was like what ?
Garry (34:54):
And then she goes I'm talking about money.
And then Gus says somethinglike what did Gus say?
I don't know.
Like where in the world did youfind some money?
But come to find out she's rich, yep, and she starts to talk
about she worked 15 jobs, shemoved to Maranac because of the
low cost of living.
(35:16):
And she said this is only mychecking account.
And when May looked at it, maywas like you know how much?
Because she said how much moneydo you need?
And then May was like you don'tooh that much.
Amy (35:28):
It's a lot of money and she goes, that's my checking.
Garry (35:31):
That's my business checking account.
I have a savings too and thelook on everybody's face.
Amy (35:37):
I love when she says I want a franchise.
I already talked to the mayorbecause we play pickleball Like
she's got an in with everybodyin the city.
He doesn't know how to dink, sohe owes me a favor.
Garry (35:47):
That's right.
Amy (35:47):
And so he's going to allow franchises on Main Street which
I thought was really cool.
Garry (35:51):
He lifted the ban he lifted the ban.
Amy (35:53):
And then she says something like I'm the shark, I'm your
shark, and she goes I'm yourangel shark.
And then she said somethinglike shark with an angel, angel
with a halo.
Garry (36:02):
Shark with a halo?
Amy (36:03):
Yeah shark with a halo, not shark with an angel.
Yeah, or an angel with a fin.
Garry (36:08):
Yes, pick your poison, you pick your poison.
Amy (36:09):
I thought it was so good.
Garry (36:11):
And she said from where I stand.
We already have two franchises.
Amy (36:15):
I just love the way that storyline came around, because
she was really schmoozing up MrChicken, you think is she really
into him, because he's kind ofyou know because she asked him.
Garry (36:25):
she goes, so is it?
What's up with Mrs Chicken?
Amy (36:28):
Yeah.
Garry (36:28):
And he's like can I tell you a secret?
This is, there isn't a MrsChicken, it's called marketing.
Amy (36:35):
Marketing.
Garry (36:38):
She goes oh, she's kind of like that.
She soaked it up like a biscuit, she did.
She got all that knowledge fromhim, she really did.
Amy (36:43):
I think, and you know she was making when you're that
miserable in your life becauseshe says something like I
haven't been happily married fora long time and when you're
just going through the motions,you make decisions that aren't
the best sometimes, andeverybody makes mistakes.
(37:03):
So I think it was good thatthey kind of gave her the end
where she's like I need to holdup, I need to get my life
together, I need to be on my ownfor a minute.
Garry (37:12):
And she kicks Junior out the house.
Amy (37:14):
And you can kind of see why she made some decisions that
she did.
So I thought it was a goodevolution of her character?
Garry (37:20):
It sure was Also.
Amy (37:22):
So at the end we see Sergio gets a text from someone that
we don't know.
Garry (37:28):
Probably his ex-wife, I think.
Amy (37:30):
I made a mistake.
I miss you.
We don't know who that is.
Garry (37:33):
We see Frankie auditioning for college.
Which was pretty cool, yeah,and Amanda was there.
Amy (37:38):
Gus took Nancy up on her offer to live with her which was
amazing for Gus.
Garry (37:41):
That was a fun scene too.
Amy (37:42):
Good for Gus.
And then the pastor comes totake out Nancy she gets a love,
she gets what.
Garry (37:47):
Nancy has a little boyfriend now.
Well, we think she's like we'rejust going to bingo, yeah.
Amy (37:52):
May has a realization after looking at a picture.
Garry (37:55):
Yes, she says that's grandma, grandma Jarvis.
Amy (37:58):
That's grandma Jarvis, and then she has some realization,
which might be the baby.
The baby that was given up foradoption, so that's going to be
interesting.
Garry (38:07):
Yes.
Amy (38:08):
Amanda kicks Frank Jr out.
Praise the Lord and smartlydecides that she needs to be on
her own for a while.
Garry (38:15):
Yep.
Amy (38:15):
May and Jay decide to stay.
Garry (38:17):
Yes In.
Amy (38:18):
Maranac and help the family Yep and Chicken Sisters opens.
Yep, yep, they're the ChickenSisters now.
So it's a combination of Mimiand Franny's.
Yep Yep, they're the ChickenSisters now, so it's a
combination of Mimi and Franny'sYep Right, and Frank Jr opens
his restaurant with Mr Chickencalled Mr Chicken's Cluckery.
Garry (38:35):
In the Pancake.
Amy (38:36):
House, in the Pancake House , wherever.
Garry (38:38):
Yep, yep.
Amy (38:52):
And that I kind of thought that that was going to happen,
that he was going to hook upwith him, him but it didn't dawn
on me until they actuallyshowed it.
Yeah, I wasn't thinking aboutthat.
Yeah, yeah, that was reallygood.
So it was a really good wrap-upof everything and there's a lot
open.
I mean, they can go so manyplaces and I really hope I hope
sabrina is back as a character.
Shauna's got to be back Alongwith everybody who the main
characters are.
So I would love to see I'mhoping like Sabrina comes back
to film, something Like she'sdoing a different type of show
(39:14):
or something.
Garry (39:14):
I think there's going to be a love relationship with
Gruster.
Oh, gruster, yeah, he broughther a little travel bag, a
little travel bag he's intothose little what did?
He ask her and she said I'mjust trying to get my life fixed
.
And he said I'm good at fixingthings yeah, yeah, she said, oh
okay.
Yes.
Amy (39:30):
So I think there's something there.
I think there's something there.
Yeah, so, so Whew, out of fivecorks, how many corks would you
give this episode?
Garry (39:41):
I'm going to give it five .
I have to.
Amy (39:45):
I thought it was good.
I'm going to give it a fourbecause I thought it was good
but I wasn't like blown away,but I thought it was a really
good wrap up of things.
I would give the series a five.
Garry (39:57):
Right, for sure that's fair.
That's fair, you know sometimesI'm fair.
Sometimes I'm not.
I just felt like we learned alot yeah we did.
And a lot of answers.
So, anyway, is that a wrap?
Amy (40:10):
That is a wrap.
Garry (40:12):
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Amy (40:26):
We sure would.
Garry (40:27):
Yes, and if you didn't really really like the show,
we'd still appreciate yourpositive review Come talk to us.
Amy (40:35):
Join us next Tuesday when we begin our Tinsel Tuesday
series.
Garry (40:40):
Yes.
Amy (40:41):
Everybody loves Christmas.
Garry (40:43):
Yes, we do.
Amy (40:43):
Where we'll review all things Christmas.
First up, we're going to startwith Mistletoe Murders Mistletoe
Mistletoe.
It aired on Hallmark Plus.
It premiered on October 31st,on Halloween in 2024.
You can still catch the entireseason there, so go watch it and
then come tune in every weekfor our reviews of each episode.
Garry (41:06):
So instead of getting a kiss under the mistletoe, you
get a murder.
Amy (41:09):
You get a murder.
Be sure to also tune in onWednesdays for our Hallmark
movie reviews.
Until then, fill up yourglasses and push play.
Thanks for listening, cheers.
Welcome to Pour the Wine.
It's rom-com time where we'llsip some wine and review all
things rom-com on the HallmarkChannel.
I'm Amy and I'm Gary.
Are you ready to pour the wine?
Garry (00:17):
Yes, yes, it's time to pour the wine.
Amy (00:20):
Yes it is.
Garry (00:21):
And what do we have today ?
Amy (00:23):
We, I think A cab sap A cab sap?
That would be very shocking.
We'd love a cab sap, althoughwe did have some Chardonnay.
Yes, we did Over the weekend,so we threw in some chard again.
Garry (00:34):
Yes, we did, we like a dry white on occasion.
Amy (00:36):
It was perfect for like the warmer weather.
Yes, when the porch, it'sreally good Watching everyone
else's children run by.
Garry (00:47):
We don't have to worry about it because ours are grown
up and lately we have somereally good porch weather.
Amy (00:50):
Yeah, we have.
We've had some really goodporch weather.
Can you believe we're about toreview the season finale of the
Chicken Sisters?
Garry (00:58):
No, I cannot.
It's finally here.
It seems like we just startedyesterday.
Amy (01:00):
Spoiler alert.
I just gave away what we werereviewing.
Garry (01:02):
Sorry, oh, that's okay, we're going to have a lot of
those spoilers.
Amy (01:07):
Yeah, speaking of spoilers, that's the first one.
Garry (01:17):
Every time you hear the word spoiler, take a sip of wine
.
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Garry (01:39):
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Amy (02:01):
I'd be curious to know everyone's thoughts.
I really haven't looked up anyreviews or what people are
saying, I mean we've listened toa few podcasts, just to kind of
see if we're on the same pagesometimes.
Yeah, um, but uh, other thanthat, I haven't really looked
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didn't want to taint our we'dlike to save it.
(02:22):
Yeah, save it for the podcastbecause did drop what in the
fall on Hallmark Plus.
So a lot of people have alreadyseen it.
Yep, and I didn't want anyspoilers and I didn't read the
book.
You didn't read the book.
Garry (02:33):
No, I did not, so we literally had no idea what was
going to happen all season.
No, we got some things rightand we got some things wrong,
yep, but overall we did a goodjob, I think, I think so.
So today we're reviewing theseason finale of season one, the
Chicken Sisters the bestchicken in town y'all which
aired on the Hallmark Channel onSunday, may 28th 2025.
Amy (02:56):
No.
Garry (02:56):
May 18th.
Oh sorry, my eyes did a doublecross there.
Spoiler alert 18th Take a sipyeah right May 18th 2025.
If you missed it, you can catchit in all of the episodes on
Hallmark Plus.
Yes, yes.
Take a sip.
Take a sip Anyway so are weadding anybody to the list of
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actors and actresses on this one?
Amy (03:19):
We are not.
I believe we've covered themall.
Garry (03:27):
I don't think anyone new showed up, except maybe via text
to sergio, but we don't knowwho that is.
Amy (03:31):
Oh, but we have a good idea .
So okay, yeah, in season twowe'll find out yeah but um, no,
because I think if you want tohear the actors and actresses
who are in it, go to our otherepisodes.
Garry (03:43):
Yes, Episode one, two and three.
Amy (03:46):
Yeah, at least.
And then I think we sprinkledin some more, in some other
episode reviews of the actors asthey showed up and actresses.
So there you go, yeah.
Garry (03:55):
Yeah, it's hard to keep up with all of them.
There were so many, there were,but you did a really good job.
Amy (03:59):
There were quite a few, okay, thank you so you want to
have some trivia.
Let's do it, let's do sometrivia I love not knowing things
.
Let me take a sip while you'regetting ready.
Garry (04:12):
Okay, go ahead, here we go, lay it on me, lay it on me,
me, me, me, me.
Anyway, what profession do manyHallmark movie leads often have
in Hallmark movies?
Amy (04:23):
and TV series.
Oh, you're catching me offguard.
Often have in Hallmark moviesand TV series.
My brain is like bleh.
Garry (04:27):
What professions do they usually play?
Attorney.
Amy (04:31):
Chocolatiers.
Garry (04:33):
We've seen a lot of those lately.
Yes, we have lately.
Amy (04:35):
yes, that's the first thing that comes in Advertisers,
publicists I don't know, bakers,help me, yes, bakers, writers,
writers, planners yes, yes,photographers.
I didn't know that, yeah Icouldn't think that that wasn't.
You know, you put me on thespot royals, royals love me
(04:56):
royal.
Garry (04:57):
I know right, I know I know, so is it?
That was that was good trivia.
Yeah, it was, I thought so andI was terrible.
Yeah, you did pretty good, sois it time to drop the synopsis?
For season one, episode eight.
Amy (05:10):
The best chicken in town, y'all.
A final twist in the realitycompetition throws both the
Mimi's and Franny's crews for aloop, and Frank Jr's true colors
are revealed.
Garry (05:23):
Yes, they were.
Amy (05:27):
Were, I don't think it just happened in this last episode
but we can discuss.
Garry (05:32):
Let's just say that water is boiling over.
Amy (05:35):
All right now.
This is a spoiler alert.
Garry (05:37):
So press pause, press pause, go watch it and then come
back and listen to our podcast.
Amy (05:45):
Yes, because we will, in discussing things, give some
things away.
We're going to talk about theend and what's sort of lingering
.
So press pause, go watch theseason finale and then come back
.
That's your spoiler alert.
Garry (05:59):
You've been warned.
Amy (06:00):
How many times have we said spoiler.
People should be.
What four or five subs?
Garry (06:03):
Yeah, they should be feeling pretty good right now.
At least I am anyways.
Amy (06:08):
Yeah, so at the end of last season we're fresh off what we
thought was one of the bestepisodes, right?
Garry (06:14):
Yes, could have been a finale there.
Amy (06:17):
Yeah, we both thought it could have been a finale.
Garry (06:18):
Yeah, because it was to me if they would have left Gus
passed out.
Yeah, Until next season.
Yes, that would have beenawesome.
Amy (06:28):
Yep, yep.
So we see.
Nancy realizes that Frank Jrwas the one that called the
health inspector.
Garry (06:34):
Yep.
Amy (06:35):
Frank Jr continued to show that he's an ass.
Garry (06:39):
Yes, the town rallied around Gus.
Hey Right.
Amy (06:43):
May and Amanda got closer.
Yep, jay showed Gus hey, right,may and Amanda got closer.
Garry (06:44):
Yep.
Amy (06:45):
Jay showed up.
Garry (06:46):
Jay For.
Amy (06:47):
May rolled his sleeves up and dove right in to May's life.
Garry (06:50):
He sure did.
Amy (06:51):
Sabrina and Lindsey are at odds again.
Garry (06:54):
Yep.
Amy (06:55):
As are Frankie and Lindsey.
Garry (06:57):
Yep.
Amy (06:58):
And Gus lights her house on fire and collapses.
Garry (07:00):
Now.
Amy (07:00):
That's kind of where we are .
Lighting your house on fire andletting it burn to the ground.
Garry (07:08):
That's a way to start over.
That could have been an awesomecliffhanger.
It could have been, but youstill would have had the chicken
competition.
Amy (07:14):
lingering, would you want?
Garry (07:15):
to wait a whole season for that.
That's true too.
Amy (07:17):
That's true, I mean, I think that it was good enough to
be a finale.
I mean, we loved that episode.
We weren't completely wrong, Idon't think, but there was
definitely things to tidy up.
And especially since they didn'tknow if they were getting a
season two Right.
So you want to wrap things upand there's a lot of places they
can go still, Yep, but youdefinitely want to tie.
(07:40):
I mean the series.
I'm glad it's not ending, butit could have ended on the
season finale because they didtie a lot of things up.
Garry (07:47):
Yeah, yeah, I thought so, yeah, so.
Amy (07:50):
So where do you, where would you like to start?
I do have some tidbits aboutthe differences between the book
and the series, by the way.
You want me to hold on to thoseuntil the end.
Garry (08:01):
No, go ahead, let's bring them up, okay.
Amy (08:06):
What?
Um no go ahead let's, let'sbring them up.
Okay, go ahead.
So I didn't.
We already meant we didn't readthe book.
No, we didn't have any spoilers, but I just decided to look up
what are the differences.
Now that we watched the eighth,you know the final episode to
see, and this is probably goingto blow your mind a little bit.
So amanda is widowed in thebook oh frank jr is not alive
(08:27):
really in the book, right, she'swidowed.
Now I don't know how he died orif they talk about it, but and
they were saying that you knowfrank jr on the screen kind of,
adds the producer.
I think was saying somethinglike having him part of the
story gives you more of abackground for Amanda's.
Right why she's making somedecisions that she's making.
(08:49):
So I thought, which makes sense, because the whole thing with
Sergio isn't in the book either,so Huh.
Garry (08:57):
Yeah, okay.
Amy (08:58):
So May is married with kids .
Garry (09:01):
Oh May.
Amy (09:02):
But they opted not to go that route Right with kids who
may.
But they opted not to go thatroute right because this is
according to the producer itwould have just added that many
more characters to keep up withand there's already so many and
we're peeling back the layersright of everybody every episode
, so, um, so I thought it waskind of cool and to give her a
little, and you know, it gaveher room to grow too yes, before
(09:23):
she settles down, and so Ithought that was kind of cool.
Garry (09:26):
I agree with what you told me.
Amy (09:26):
Now the author, kj D'Antonia.
She was not involved in theadaptation because she basically
has said I'm a book writer, nota screenwriter, and she sort of
gave them free reign-ish.
She did want it to take placein Kansas because she felt like
Kansas didn't get enough.
There's a lot of small townsand a lot of states but Kansas
(09:47):
is rarely represented and shewent to high school and college
there and she really wantedKansas to be represented.
I thought that was pretty cool.
Garry (09:54):
I think that's a.
Amy (09:55):
And she was actually inspired by two chicken
restaurants in Kansas where sheGet out of here, where she lived
, and she said her and herfamily went to one of them but
not the other, and so sheexpanded on that idea and
thought, I thought that wasreally cool.
Garry (10:07):
That's pretty cool.
Amy (10:08):
And season one covers the storylines in the book in their
entirety.
Okay, so when they move forward, they're going to take those
characters that she sobrilliantly wrote in the book
and just go off with them andthey have so many different ways
they can go.
So anyway, that's just a littletidbit about what I read.
Garry (10:26):
That's pretty interesting .
Amy (10:28):
Pretty interesting, so what ?
Did you think about the finale?
Garry (10:32):
Oh my, God, the truth is it was flavorful.
Amy (10:37):
Flavorful.
Oh, okay, we're going with some.
Okay, and very, very satisfying, very satisfying.
Garry (10:42):
Like finger licking.
Good Okay.
Amy (10:44):
That's where we're going with this.
I see what you're doing here.
I see what you're doing here.
Yes.
Garry (10:49):
Finger licking good.
Amy (10:51):
Yeah.
Garry (10:52):
They tied up everything.
I really enjoyed it.
Amy (10:55):
Yeah, I really enjoyed it.
Garry (10:56):
Yeah, I did too I mean there's a lot of up and down,
emotions and romance.
We found a lot of below thesurface issues that they
actually resolved.
So there was some resolutionyes, so what did you think?
Amy (11:13):
I thought it was good.
I mean, I enjoyed it for whatit was.
I thought it was a really goodepisode.
I didn't think it was one ofthe best episodes.
It was good.
It was good.
Okay, so we're gonna to differin our rating.
I can already tell how manyquirks.
Garry (11:27):
I'm going to say spoiler alert, just so I can take a sip.
Amy (11:30):
Okay.
So, like I said, I thought itwas really good.
It was satisfying as a viewerbecause you do see some things
wrapped up.
You do see some morerevelations about people.
Yes, I mean I think I enjoyedthe series as a whole overall,
just to see the growth of someof the characters and everything
.
So I mean, if we want to getinto it, we find out, you know,
(11:52):
right at the beginning you findout that Gus has MS.
Garry (11:56):
Yes.
Amy (11:57):
That's what she's not told anybody.
Garry (11:59):
And she's not sleeping with Gen.
And she's not she is not, soget your minds out of the gutter
he's a doctor and I don't thinkdid we see him as a doctor.
No, I don't.
They kept that hidden for sevenepisodes, well we figured he
was some kind of what were weguessing like a massage
therapist or something.
Amy (12:15):
We just didn't know for sure.
With the acupuncture,Acupuncture yeah, he is a doctor
.
So we find out that she has MSand she's been hiding it.
And her girls, of course,Amanda and May, are shocked to
find out.
Garry (12:29):
Yeah, they kept that secret.
Yeah, that Gen didn't sayanything.
Amy (12:34):
That Gen didn't say anything.
Their mom didn't say anything,although I'm sure it wasn't
surprising that Gus didn't spillthe beans.
Garry (12:40):
But the look on Amanda's face when she kind of she kind
of asked like why?
Amy (12:45):
and it just dawned on her because the whole town would
have knew, yeah, but then second, yeah, and they get tired of
being talked about and then youfind out pretty much, I think,
at the beginning that franny'shusband og franny her husband
lied yes, just like.
Just like Frank Sr did Sherman.
Garry (13:09):
So he lied and said he had an affair with.
Amy (13:10):
Mimi.
But it turns out it wasn't true, because Frankie found the
letter from the real baby, daddy.
Garry (13:16):
Yeah.
Amy (13:16):
That's funny, yes, but we don't know who he is.
Garry (13:23):
Not yet.
Amy (13:24):
And then we also find out that Mimi gave the baby up for
adoption so I think that leavessomething open too yeah where
who's the who's the baby yeah,and I think and who is it in the
town?
How old would the baby be,though?
Garry (13:41):
that's a good question.
It it would have to be agrandmother yeah, I just know
yeah, and we'll get to thatpoint where I think we find may
oh, yes, oh, now I'm putting ittogether now you're putting it
there, you go.
Amy (13:55):
I didn't at the time.
Okay, I'm dumb, all right, allright so anyway, so, and gus,
when she's laying in bed, whatis this?
The gulag you're gonna you knowshe is so funny.
Garry (14:04):
I love her man.
Amy (14:05):
She is great yeah and she realizes she has to have help
right because she gets.
They have to put her in awheelchair for a little bit
because it's hard for her, youknow, to walk which I am shocked
right away.
Garry (14:16):
She was okay with being put in the in the wheelchair,
but I think well, she burned herhouse down like she's ready,
but you see how she ripped offthe ivs and everything she was
like I think she, just in thatmoment, realizes, you know, she
has to have help.
Amy (14:33):
There's no way around it, she's got to have the help.
Garry (14:37):
Well, just think about it when she was growing up, she
didn't have help and she had twolittle kids Right.
And now she's at an age whereshe just wants to.
Hey look, y'all want to help me.
Help me.
Amy (14:45):
Yeah.
Garry (14:46):
Which I thought was really good.
Amy (14:47):
Yeah, that was really good it, yeah, that was really good.
Garry (14:55):
It was a good turning point for her.
Who do you want to?
Amy (14:56):
kind of dive into.
Let's go with.
Garry (14:57):
May, may.
Okay, yeah, did she come and doany revelations, do you think?
Amy (15:04):
Well, I mean.
Garry (15:07):
I feel like with her and Jay.
I think she finally let thewhat's the word I'm looking for.
Amy (15:20):
The control that she always had to have.
Yeah, she gives it up a littlebit.
Garry (15:21):
Yeah, because she was kind of a control freak, Not
with.
You know, you need to do this,you need to do that.
Amy (15:26):
Well, she kind of was she just needed to have that control
of the situation.
Of her life and the narrativeand everything.
Garry (15:35):
And maybe it was part of her show personality coming out
in real life, or maybe it wasvice versa, I don't know, but I
felt like she really, you know,just like Gus, just let it go.
Amy (15:47):
I feel like she grew the most over the season.
Garry (15:50):
I mean.
Amanda in this episode finallycomes around you know, oh boy,
did she come around and owns it.
Amy (15:56):
But yeah, mae, she definitely.
I mean, I just love her andJay's relationship even more
after this episode.
You know, you see, Mae gets anopportunity to go back on her
show.
Yeah, they wanted her back.
They want her back.
And what does she?
She tells Gus that.
Garry (16:12):
Oh, my goodness, and gus.
Amy (16:14):
I love the line where gus well before you know gus says
something like well, I guessthose fan checks are going to
start coming back, which Ithought was really funny.
Garry (16:22):
The fan story, the fan incident that she believed she
was getting money from, andthere it is and there, yeah, but
she said she's proud of her andmay's like what she slowly
turns and says what Did you justsay you're proud of me.
And then she spanks her on thebutt.
Amy (16:37):
And then Gus is like maybe I should let some of my inside
thoughts come out every once andagain.
So that was so she's comingaround, you know, I mean it's
hard to teach an old dog newtricks, right, and she is, she's
trying.
Yes, she is she's trying to notbe in her own way.
Garry (16:54):
She's really putting in effort, and so is May, yeah, and
I think by just everybodyknowing about what they already
knew about.
She was a hoarder, but by andnow everybody knows about the MS
.
She doesn't have to hide itanymore and you can just tell
the weight lifted off hershoulders.
She's just, she's smiling more.
Amy (17:13):
I mean, it's just, and can you, can we, the three women who
are like the gossipy women?
Of the town when the sheriffasked them about the fire do you
think it's intentionally setand there would have been a time
where they're because they'rejust dying to gossip?
Right, they want to talk aboutit.
Garry (17:28):
Right.
Amy (17:29):
And they don't.
They defend her.
Garry (17:30):
Yes, they do.
Amy (17:31):
And instead of gossiping and telling the truth, they're
like must have been a lightningstorm, which I thought was
really kind of a cool turnaroundfor them also.
You know, now they're stillprobably going to be the town
gossipers, but in that momentthey defended Gus and I think
Gus doesn't realize how much thetown really loves her, despite
(17:51):
her exterior of hardness andthey get him to agree with them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a roadlike that, yeah.
Garry (18:02):
That was a really good scene too, so what did you think
about Jay?
Amy (18:06):
Jay.
I loved his exploration too.
He's supposed to be, so Jay issupposed to be packing and
getting the rental car right yes, a rental car or something for
them to get ready to go back toNew York, and while May is,
doing the competition right andhelping with the competition,
(18:28):
but then you see him strollingaround and and you know and the
town.
And what does he have?
Some ice cream.
Like he's just really soakingin the peace.
Garry (18:38):
He's skipping rocks.
Amy (18:39):
Right, right.
And what do I always say?
Unapologetically protect yourpeace.
Garry (18:43):
Yes.
Amy (18:43):
Right, and you don't necessarily have to go to a
small town to do that.
But if you live in New YorkCity, I would imagine you know
sometimes you might want anescape just for a little bit at
least you know to go, but hereally is liking it and he
doesn't have a job to go back toanymore.
Garry (18:59):
Right.
Amy (18:59):
That was another revelation , right.
Garry (19:01):
Yep.
Amy (19:03):
In the last episodes that he quit his job.
Garry (19:05):
He quit his job.
Amy (19:07):
So now he's realizing hey, maybe this is pretty cool and
it's so interesting to mebecause May couldn't wait to get
out of that town.
Garry (19:15):
No.
Amy (19:15):
She hated that.
Well, her childhood was sotraumatic and she, you know, had
all the things and she justwanted out and she wanted, she
thought she wanted to be betterand people to see her in a
different light, not come from aplace like that, and all he
wants to do is stay there.
Garry (19:29):
Right.
Amy (19:30):
You know, so it's kind of cool, so, and then at the end,
of course, she she barges in andshe's putting her foot down
saying, right, I'm staying.
I know we shouldn't yeah.
Garry (19:43):
Maybe not forever, but I need to be here and he pretty
much he's like hold on.
Yeah, wait a minute, let mespeak.
Amy (19:51):
Yeah, and he hold on.
Garry (19:51):
yeah, wait a minute, let me speak, yeah, and he tells her
I didn't pack, I didn't get therental car yeah she kind of
looks down like what, and thenhe goes in to tell her that you
know, he, what was the one?
He talked about?
A blue bluebird oh the word.
Amy (20:05):
I saw a bluebird.
Get the, or what is it no feedthe worm to its baby today, or
something like that.
Garry (20:11):
And in New York, all I see is pigeons eating cigarette
butts.
It's so true.
Amy (20:15):
That was so nasty.
That was nasty when you take in.
Sometimes it's the littlethings, right, yeah.
Yeah, that was pretty good andhe saw the house with the for
sale sign on it.
Garry (20:23):
Yeah, and she kind of was like oh my God, you know that,
look on her face, yeah.
Amy (20:38):
So face, yeah, so there, I just love love their
relationship, so it's prettycool and he's perfect for her
and she's perfect for him in alot of ways, you know, so
they're perfectly imperfect.
Garry (20:41):
Right there you go, there you go.
Yeah, it's pretty cool, allright.
Amy (20:43):
Well, let's touch on amanda then amanda okay, she has some
growth so we have to talk aboutthe competition.
We finally get some of thecooking competition and Frank Jr
goads Sergio into trying topunch him and Sergio punches the
wall instead.
And that causes a whole thing,and in that moment Sabrina also
(21:04):
cuts the camera off.
Yes, because she has come to arealization that she doesn't
necessarily want thesalaciousness and she wants to
do something that her daughteris proud of, and so I thought
she wouldn't have done that atthe beginning.
So her character has evolved too, from the beginning, you know,
to the end and I don't know ifit's like that in the book or
not you know she does changelike that.
Garry (21:26):
Right.
Amy (21:27):
But it's a pretty good evolution for her.
Garry (21:29):
I think so.
Sorry, I digressed from Amanda.
Evolution for her.
I think so.
Sorry, I digressed from Amanda.
No, no.
Amy (21:32):
But yeah.
So then Amanda, we see she'sjust had it with Frank Jr.
Garry (21:38):
Oh yeah.
Amy (21:39):
And then she's like I didn't stay in this relationship
for you, right, I stayed foryou.
And she looks at Nancy.
Garry (21:47):
Yeah, that was a powerful moment, and Nancy's mortified,
you know.
Amy (21:50):
And then Amanda and Nancy jump ship, yeah, and then Amanda
and Nancy, jump ship, yeah, andthey go over to Mimi's side, to
Mimi's side.
Yep, yep, yep.
Garry (21:57):
Leaving Frank all alone.
Amy (22:02):
Well, we need to go back to the letter that Frankie found.
Garry (22:06):
Oh, that was so funny, because what did Frankie say
when she had the letter whichshe found in episode seven?
And then she runs?
Amy (22:18):
I need a grandma summit, yeah, or something like that.
Garry (22:21):
She said I need a grandmother summit.
A grandmother summit, yeah, andthey both looked at her like
what, and so she tells him whatwas in the letter and lets him
read it.
Amy (22:30):
And Gus is like I, you you know, I knew it, yeah, and well,
gus says I didn't need a letterto believe right that they
didn't sleep together, that mimididn't sleep with franny's,
right husband and that, and inthat moment, that changes
everything.
Also because they've had thislong-standing 100-year-old feud
(22:53):
for nothing.
Yep, all because of the guy,because he's a man.
Garry (22:59):
Guys plural.
Amy (23:01):
Guys, yeah, who would rather lie about having an
affair?
That still blows my mind, bythe way.
Then be truthful.
Because of what Greed?
Garry (23:12):
Because they wanted to take over the other one.
Amy (23:14):
They wanted the other one out of the relationship.
Garry (23:16):
Well, that's what abusers do, right?
Yeah, they get what's the wordcalled.
Amy (23:22):
They isolate people, isolate you Well, and that's
what Frank Jr does.
He tries to to Amanda Right.
Garry (23:31):
So let's count the men here.
Amy (23:34):
So you had.
Garry (23:35):
Sherman back in 1912.
Right Right, he tells Frannythat he slept with Mimi, which
was not true.
And then you have Frank Sr whosaid he slept with Gus, just to
get the business which was nottrue.
Just to get the business whichwas not true.
And now you have Frank Jr whokeeps telling Amanda throughout
(23:58):
the show that they don't needthese kind of people.
Yeah, you know, and when Sergiohad punched the wall he told
her that well, they, you knowthey're the ones Like they
started it Gus must have toldthem to tell him to do that.
You know he kept trying toisolate her from her family.
Amy (24:14):
From her family.
Garry (24:15):
And then that's when she goes into telling Nancy that she
loves her and she's proud to beher daughter.
Yeah, and.
Nancy says I'm proud to haveyou as my daughter.
And then they both jump ship,jump ship.
Amy (24:25):
Jump ship and they go to the other side Go to her family,
I guess not the other side andthey leave Frank Jr by himself.
So do we want to talk about?
Garry (24:38):
Frank Jr a little bit.
Since we're there, let me takea sip.
Amy (24:41):
Well, you broke up with him a long time ago, I know but I'm
telling you he's a great actor.
He is really good Because hemade me hate this character.
I'm telling you I hate thischaracter.
Garry (24:52):
Oh, my goodness, and hate is a big word, yeah.
Amy (24:54):
So we've already touched a little bit on him and how he,
you know, talks to Amanda andstill tries to isolate her.
He tries to tell her that youknow, may kept Gus's MS from her
and you don't need those, likeyou said, you don't need those
kind of people in your life andhe just, he's just an ass.
Garry (25:14):
Plain and simple.
Amy (25:15):
He's just you feel for him a little bit in one moment you
know he talks about we find outwhy he got the vasectomy and
it's really sad.
Garry (25:25):
Yes.
Amy (25:26):
You know, in a lot of ways because he didn't want to have a
son that was just like him.
Garry (25:30):
Right, and so he recognizes it, but he doesn't do
anything about it.
Yeah, I thought that was goingto be a turning point, but it
wasn't.
But it wasn't, it was not Right, right, he actually doubled
down on that, but you feel forhim in that moment.
Amy (25:45):
But whereas, like you know, may, she recognizes it and
she's changing, yeah, she'smaking an effort to change.
Garry (25:53):
Yeah.
Amy (25:53):
And he's the opposite.
Garry (25:55):
Complete opposite.
Yeah, so, and who was the?
Was it Maya Angelo?
Amy (26:01):
Yeah.
Garry (26:01):
When people show you who they are believe them, believe
them.
Amy (26:05):
That's one of the truest statements you can ever live by.
Garry (26:08):
Actions speak louder than words.
Amy (26:10):
They really really do those actions showed.
Yeah.
Garry (26:15):
Big time.
Amy (26:15):
And you know you keep.
It reminds me of.
Well, first we'll talk aboutFrank Jr.
He threw the whole series.
When you think about it, he wasan ass.
Garry (26:24):
Yeah.
Amy (26:25):
Like pretty.
And then the time he tried toact nice, he was just pretending
and he reverted right back.
Yeah, right, so you see it inevery episode.
But then it reminded me of theHBO series that we watched,
called the Undoing.
Garry (26:40):
It was with Hugh Grant.
Amy (26:41):
Nicole Kidman and he has this affair and the woman he has
an affair with dies and he'saccused of it.
Garry (26:47):
Right.
Amy (26:48):
And he says he's innocent, and all this.
And I remember the it waseither the producer or the
director, you know.
And then you get to the end ofthat series.
Spoiler alert if you haven'tseen it and you're going to
watch it, pause here.
Garry (26:59):
Press pause.
Amy (27:01):
You find out that he actually did kill her Right and
he's like a monster actually.
He actually did kill her rightand he's like a monster actually
and but through the through,each episode, you're kind of
like your brain gives him thebenefit of the doubt, right, not
?
Just because just like thatmovie but you know it's like you
keep saying oh, you know he's,is that him?
But the, but the director waslike.
(27:22):
We're showing you that we areshowing you who he is and people
didn't want to believe it.
Yeah, because those episodeswere dropped weekly and people
were like I don't believe he did.
There was this big debateonline and everything, and I
remember you know him saying youknow, this is the problem is
that, just like you said, whenpeople show you who they are
(27:43):
believe them because theiractions are not lying.
They and their words might, buttheir actions are not lying.
Garry (27:46):
They totally were not, and their words might but their
actions were not, and that's thecase with Frank Jr.
Yes, sorry, that was my soapbox.
No, that was very good.
Actually I forgot all aboutthat movie, and you and I were
both.
I think you believed it morethan I did.
I kept going no, I don't thinkhe did.
Amy (28:01):
I was like I know he did and I kept saying but Well, no,
but I went back and forth alittle bit too, though I didn't
totally, because then there werescenes and you're like I don't
know, could he have done it?
No, you know, murder so drastic.
Garry (28:16):
It was crazy.
Amy (28:17):
Yeah, yeah, so that so Frank Jr.
Yeah, he, he didn't make anywaves and they showed us who he
was the whole.
Garry (28:24):
The whole time.
Amy (28:24):
Series and that's who he is Yep.
So and I did.
Garry (28:29):
I had that one moment where he talked about his
vasectomy and then that was itand he doubled down so Yep, so
let's talk about Lindsay andFrankie, okay, and their
relationship, because I feltlike that one scene where you
know, throughout the show,lindsay's you know texting
(28:50):
saying you know, hello, I wantto talk to you.
Amy (28:54):
Right, because they're mad at each other.
Garry (28:55):
Because you know the episode prior, sabrina
accidentally said you're onlyhanging out with her because I
told you so and Frankie wasupset about that.
You so and Frankie was upsetabout that.
But that scene where she grabsFrankie by the arm to go talk to
her and just said look, youknow, when I first got here it
was this x, y and z, but nowyou're my friend yeah, we're
(29:19):
friends now yeah but it you canalmost see the thought in
Frankie's mind that I think shewants more.
What do you mean?
Like she wants?
Amy (29:32):
I don't know, but the way you mean like a relationship,
like a relationship.
I don't know that's what I gotfrom that.
I didn't take that at allEspecially, maybe, maybe in the
end, but we'll talk about that.
Yeah, but yeah, I don't know.
Garry (29:51):
Oh, you think she wants more than just friendship,
because she says what are we?
Yeah, or was that at the end?
Amy (29:53):
no, that was, that was them .
Because, yeah, she kind oflindsey kind of put her in the
friend zone and oh well, maybe Imean I don't know, maybe, yeah,
I didn't think about it thatway lindsey did that part really
well.
She did, she was so good job atthat well and she's like it may
have started off that, but nowwe've developed a real
relationship slash friendshipand I'm going to miss you, know
I'm going to miss you.
And there's another relationshipwhere, you know, frankie can't
(30:15):
wait to get out of that smalltown, right?
Because she feels like shelives in this small town and
blah, blah, blah.
And Lindsay hated it at firstbut has come to really like it.
Isn't that crazy Right?
Lindsay hated it at first buthas come to really like it Isn't
that crazy, Right?
Garry (30:27):
I mean so you have that opposite.
Amy (30:29):
You know like.
Garry (30:31):
May and Jay.
Amy (30:32):
Yeah, yeah, it totally happens.
So, I guess we can come to theend.
Well, towards the end, you wantto go back to Amanda and Sergio
?
Yeah, so, Amanda and Sergiohave a talk and Amanda really
realizes she's been in arelationship for, you know, 18
years.
Since high school, since highschool and you know she needs to
(30:53):
be by herself, not because shedoesn't want to pursue something
eventually with Sergio but, hereacts a little bit abruptly to
that, because he says basicallywhat he's not going to wait
around, so we don't know whatthe story is there.
There might be more.
Garry (31:07):
Right.
Amy (31:08):
I think you said maybe.
Garry (31:10):
Is it Well the exchange between them two?
And this was after he hadpunched his hand.
And after the contest she goesto Mimi's and he's sitting there
soaking his hand, but she'stelling them why she doesn't
want that relationship right now, and one of the things she says
is I don't want to make anothermistake or a second mistake.
(31:33):
And then that's when Sergiogets up.
Amy (31:35):
Oh, you're right.
And starts to walk away.
Garry (31:37):
And she's like well, what are you doing?
He goes, well, you just saidyou don't want to make the same
mistake twice and he saidneither do I.
Amy (31:46):
Yeah, so he was on the other end of that at some point.
Yeah, that's what you're led tobelieve.
Yeah, yeah, you're absolutelyright.
We didn't even talk about thecompetition.
Well, we're going to talk aboutit right now.
So they have the competition.
Yes.
Garry (31:59):
So you have everybody against Frank.
Amy (32:00):
Frank Jr is by himself right, himself right, and he
cooks.
Mr chicken is the judge and thetownspeople, the townspeople
all vote for mimi, mimi.
Garry (32:15):
And well, the combination , right, the combination.
Yeah, the chicken, the chickensisters, and they tell their
little story.
Amy (32:18):
And mr chicken, which I thought, was very brilliant, but
mr chicken then, even thoughtheir chicken was better, the
women you can see it on his eyeswhen he bit into it, that juice
running and then he says butchicken is more you know more
than just the meat it's the gutsyou know, and then he talks
about you know, their macho crapwith, you know, with frank his
little podcast.
(32:38):
So he gives it to junior hedeclares frank jr the winner.
Garry (32:45):
Yep.
Amy (32:45):
And then Sabrina loses her mind.
She's like I'm it, that's it,I'm out, I'm done.
You can't possibly think thatthat chicken was better.
Garry (32:52):
Yep.
Amy (32:53):
And she just.
Garry (32:54):
She dropped the mic.
Amy (32:55):
Yep, she dropped the mic.
Garry (32:56):
She dropped the mic Because she's had enough too.
Yeah, because she said that'swhen she do something that her
daughter would be proud of.
Yes, and I thought that wassome, some very good character
growth from her.
Amy (33:11):
She has some really good growth throughout.
Yeah, yeah, and her characterwas so funny and at times and up
and down that episode when shewas hung over, I'm sorry, that's
just the funniest thing I likehow she went around and said.
Garry (33:22):
what did she say?
I quit, I, I quit, I quit.
Amy (33:25):
I'm done, done, done, did she say, done, it was something,
but she kept turning toeverybody.
Garry (33:29):
It's like I'm done, I'm done, and then she stops, she
walks off camera and then shecomes back and says something
else and then she leaves.
And Lindsay, was she, said.
I can't remember what Lindsaysaid, but it was something.
Amy (33:40):
I don't.
She smiled when her mom saidshe quit, I can't remember what
she actually said.
Garry (33:44):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
She thought that was badassthat her mom did that.
Amy (33:46):
Yeah, that was pretty cool, yeah, and then there's Shauna.
Garry (33:51):
Oh, she is probably my favorite character she's so good
, she's so funny.
Amy (33:59):
She's so funny because she talks to Mr Chicken and she's
like like she's all into him andhe's eating it up right like he
thinks she is into him and heis like oh, she wants my advice
and he gives her all this advice, and then you find out she was
using him to get the informationwhich is so good.
Garry (34:20):
If there's a badass in this show is her.
Was she.
She played it to the T when shecame walking in, when the
singing went back to Mimi's.
They're packing up Because ofcourse, they didn't win.
Amy (34:34):
They didn't have money.
It's Gus Nancy and.
Amanda Mae?
Yeah, I think Everybody butFrank Jr, basically yeah.
Garry (34:42):
And they're packing up and in comes Shauna and she's
like do y'all need some help?
And Nancy turns around to gohand her a box and she goes no,
not that kind of help.
Amy (34:52):
And everybody was like what ?
Garry (34:54):
And then she goes I'm talking about money.
And then Gus says somethinglike what did Gus say?
I don't know.
Like where in the world did youfind some money?
But come to find out she's rich, yep, and she starts to talk
about she worked 15 jobs, shemoved to Maranac because of the
low cost of living.
(35:16):
And she said this is only mychecking account.
And when May looked at it, maywas like you know how much?
Because she said how much moneydo you need?
And then May was like you don'tooh that much.
Amy (35:28):
It's a lot of money and she goes, that's my checking.
Garry (35:31):
That's my business checking account.
I have a savings too and thelook on everybody's face.
Amy (35:37):
I love when she says I want a franchise.
I already talked to the mayorbecause we play pickleball Like
she's got an in with everybodyin the city.
He doesn't know how to dink, sohe owes me a favor.
Garry (35:47):
That's right.
Amy (35:47):
And so he's going to allow franchises on Main Street which
I thought was really cool.
Garry (35:51):
He lifted the ban he lifted the ban.
Amy (35:53):
And then she says something like I'm the shark, I'm your
shark, and she goes I'm yourangel shark.
And then she said somethinglike shark with an angel, angel
with a halo.
Garry (36:02):
Shark with a halo?
Amy (36:03):
Yeah shark with a halo, not shark with an angel.
Yeah, or an angel with a fin.
Garry (36:08):
Yes, pick your poison, you pick your poison.
Amy (36:09):
I thought it was so good.
Garry (36:11):
And she said from where I stand.
We already have two franchises.
Amy (36:15):
I just love the way that storyline came around, because
she was really schmoozing up MrChicken, you think is she really
into him, because he's kind ofyou know because she asked him.
Garry (36:25):
she goes, so is it?
What's up with Mrs Chicken?
Amy (36:28):
Yeah.
Garry (36:28):
And he's like can I tell you a secret?
This is, there isn't a MrsChicken, it's called marketing.
Amy (36:35):
Marketing.
Garry (36:38):
She goes oh, she's kind of like that.
She soaked it up like a biscuit, she did.
She got all that knowledge fromhim, she really did.
Amy (36:43):
I think, and you know she was making when you're that
miserable in your life becauseshe says something like I
haven't been happily married fora long time and when you're
just going through the motions,you make decisions that aren't
the best sometimes, andeverybody makes mistakes.
(37:03):
So I think it was good thatthey kind of gave her the end
where she's like I need to holdup, I need to get my life
together, I need to be on my ownfor a minute.
Garry (37:12):
And she kicks Junior out the house.
Amy (37:14):
And you can kind of see why she made some decisions that
she did.
So I thought it was a goodevolution of her character?
Garry (37:20):
It sure was Also.
Amy (37:22):
So at the end we see Sergio gets a text from someone that
we don't know.
Garry (37:28):
Probably his ex-wife, I think.
Amy (37:30):
I made a mistake.
I miss you.
We don't know who that is.
Garry (37:33):
We see Frankie auditioning for college.
Which was pretty cool, yeah,and Amanda was there.
Amy (37:38):
Gus took Nancy up on her offer to live with her which was
amazing for Gus.
Garry (37:41):
That was a fun scene too.
Amy (37:42):
Good for Gus.
And then the pastor comes totake out Nancy she gets a love,
she gets what.
Garry (37:47):
Nancy has a little boyfriend now.
Well, we think she's like we'rejust going to bingo, yeah.
Amy (37:52):
May has a realization after looking at a picture.
Garry (37:55):
Yes, she says that's grandma, grandma Jarvis.
Amy (37:58):
That's grandma Jarvis, and then she has some realization,
which might be the baby.
The baby that was given up foradoption, so that's going to be
interesting.
Garry (38:07):
Yes.
Amy (38:08):
Amanda kicks Frank Jr out.
Praise the Lord and smartlydecides that she needs to be on
her own for a while.
Garry (38:15):
Yep.
Amy (38:15):
May and Jay decide to stay.
Garry (38:17):
Yes In.
Amy (38:18):
Maranac and help the family Yep and Chicken Sisters opens.
Yep, yep, they're the ChickenSisters now.
So it's a combination of Mimiand Franny's.
Yep Yep, they're the ChickenSisters now, so it's a
combination of Mimi and Franny'sYep Right, and Frank Jr opens
his restaurant with Mr Chickencalled Mr Chicken's Cluckery.
Garry (38:35):
In the Pancake.
Amy (38:36):
House, in the Pancake House , wherever.
Garry (38:38):
Yep, yep.
Amy (38:52):
And that I kind of thought that that was going to happen,
that he was going to hook upwith him, him but it didn't dawn
on me until they actuallyshowed it.
Yeah, I wasn't thinking aboutthat.
Yeah, yeah, that was reallygood.
So it was a really good wrap-upof everything and there's a lot
open.
I mean, they can go so manyplaces and I really hope I hope
sabrina is back as a character.
Shauna's got to be back Alongwith everybody who the main
characters are.
So I would love to see I'mhoping like Sabrina comes back
to film, something Like she'sdoing a different type of show
(39:14):
or something.
Garry (39:14):
I think there's going to be a love relationship with
Gruster.
Oh, gruster, yeah, he broughther a little travel bag, a
little travel bag he's intothose little what did?
He ask her and she said I'mjust trying to get my life fixed
.
And he said I'm good at fixingthings yeah, yeah, she said, oh
okay.
Yes.
Amy (39:30):
So I think there's something there.
I think there's something there.
Yeah, so, so Whew, out of fivecorks, how many corks would you
give this episode?
Garry (39:41):
I'm going to give it five .
I have to.
Amy (39:45):
I thought it was good.
I'm going to give it a fourbecause I thought it was good
but I wasn't like blown away,but I thought it was a really
good wrap up of things.
I would give the series a five.
Garry (39:57):
Right, for sure that's fair.
That's fair, you know sometimesI'm fair.
Sometimes I'm not.
I just felt like we learned alot yeah we did.
And a lot of answers.
So, anyway, is that a wrap?
Amy (40:10):
That is a wrap.
Garry (40:12):
Well, thanks for listening.
Be sure to follow the podcastwherever you listen so you don't
miss one.
Also, follow us on social mediaif you really really like the
show and are listening on ApplePodcast or Spotify.
We would really appreciate yourpositive review.
Amy (40:26):
We sure would.
Garry (40:27):
Yes, and if you didn't really really like the show,
we'd still appreciate yourpositive review Come talk to us.
Amy (40:35):
Join us next Tuesday when we begin our Tinsel Tuesday
series.
Garry (40:40):
Yes.
Amy (40:41):
Everybody loves Christmas.
Garry (40:43):
Yes, we do.
Amy (40:43):
Where we'll review all things Christmas.
First up, we're going to startwith Mistletoe Murders Mistletoe
Mistletoe.
It aired on Hallmark Plus.
It premiered on October 31st,on Halloween in 2024.
You can still catch the entireseason there, so go watch it and
then come tune in every weekfor our reviews of each episode.
Garry (41:06):
So instead of getting a kiss under the mistletoe, you
get a murder.
Amy (41:09):
You get a murder.
Be sure to also tune in onWednesdays for our Hallmark
movie reviews.
Until then, fill up yourglasses and push play.
Thanks for listening, cheers.
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