2025 Release Wave 1 (#50)

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Ulrikke (00:00):
I learned something.
I discovered something At thefurthest possible you can get in
the release notes In thedeprecated section, and I'm
going to keep that as acliffhanger.

Nick (00:13):
Stay tuned for deprecated.

Ulrikke (00:15):
Stay tuned for what Ulrike learned that she should
have known long ago from thisrelease wave.
So fasten your seatbelts,people.
It's going to be a wild ride.

Nick (00:48):
Welcome everyone to the Power Platform Boost podcast,
your weekly source of news andupdates from the world of the
power platform and the Microsoftcommunity, with your host, Nick
Doelman and Ulrikke Akerbæk .

Ulrikke (01:02):
Hello, hey, hey, how are you?

Nick (01:05):
Hey, I'm good.
So this is going to be anotherone of our release wave episodes
.
So this is probably the thirdor fourth one we've done over
the course of our podcastingcareer lifetime.

Ulrikke (01:24):
Not your podcasting career lifetime.
Podcasting not your podcastingcareer lifetime, because you
have had a lifetime ofpodcasting before me, but our,
you know our boost thing.
Yes, the first one we did isactually one of the most popular
episodes of all time.
Guess, we were funnier then.
So before we get sorry, Goahead.

(01:44):
So before we get Sorry, Goahead.

Nick (01:48):
No, you have the floor.

Ulrikke (01:51):
No, I was just going to say that before everyone kind
of wonders.
If anyone wonders what we'retalking about, we're talking
about the release wave, therelease plans, the Wave 1 2025.
And Microsoft likes to schedulethe news and updates for Power
Platform, dynamics 365 and nowCopilot to twice a year.

(02:12):
Well, they'll give us therelease notes in January and
August and in there is the plansfor what's coming from March
until October or October untilMarch.
So we now have our hands on theMVP pre-released version and
we're pre-recording and we haveto go through to make sure that

(02:34):
everything's, all the thingsthat we talk about, is actually
in the published ones, and thenwe can record, publish it.

Nick (02:42):
So this is actually squeezed for you.
Yeah, and this is especiallysqueezed for you.
Yeah, and this is why we're aday late, because normally we
release on Wednesday.
This is going to be released,according to our plan, on
Thursday, so we're probablygoing to give you a bit of a
heads up.
There are going to be.
You've probably seen already insocial media that we've not
done yet that we're going to bea day late, so hopefully that
doesn't disrupt your plans.

(03:02):
Maybe, if you're people thatonly go in the office once a
week, you always do itWednesdays.
So, you can listen to Boost.
Hopefully this doesn't screwyou up.

Ulrikke (03:15):
Yeah, it's going to mess your week up so you're
going to think that you're a daybefore for the rest of the week
.
You know that feeling when youthink that it's Friday and it's
Thursday, so you get kind of aday extra.

Nick (03:28):
Yeah, yeah Well, do you get an extra day because you're
realizing you have a deadline onFriday and you're like, oh,
it's only Thursday get an extraday.
Or it's Thursday and you'relike, oh, it's Friday, I have a
day off tomorrow, and then yourealize you don't.
So it depends on where yourhead's at.

Ulrikke (03:44):
Yeah, that's true, it's a fast pace, right?
So what we normally do is we gothrough the release waves, uh,
independently, and so this is aformat that we picked up from um
lisa crosby and megan walkerwhen they did the podcast, where
they would go through therelease waves independently and
pick five favorites and thentalk about them.
Now, of course, we are preparedthat we might have chosen the

(04:06):
same ones.
So I kind of have a few backups, and usually you play Megan and
you play by the rules and Iplay Lisa and I don't play by
any rules.
So I have a lot of favorites.

Nick (04:19):
The thing is I counted there's, I think, 60-some
individual new features, andthis is just in the Power
Platform.
I haven't looked in theDynamics one, or there's a
Co-Pilot one as well.

Ulrikke (04:34):
Yeah, so we're just focused on.

Nick (04:35):
Power Platform Okay.

Ulrikke (04:38):
Yeah, I looked through them.
So for the Dynamics 365 is, ofcourse, then targeted towards
the business apps.
So that'll be sales, customerservice marketing sorry,
customer insights, that kind ofthing, and I don't have my hands
in that porridge, as we wouldsay.
Enough to kind of get a contextinto what that's all about.

(05:00):
So for me it didn't make awhole lot of sense, but we're
diving into some customerservice stuff at a customer's
any day now.
So I'm going to get my headwrapped around those news and,
of course, having one dedicatedto Copilot is interesting.
So if you need updates on thatspecifically, you can go in and
look at that and that willinclude, I guess, the news for

(05:22):
updates on Copilot.
And I think that's going tokind of mix the two and kind of
combine everything Copilot inone.
So what we do is we go throughthe release wave from top to
bottom, going through theproduct assets listed in the

(05:43):
release notes and, of course,also giving you a kind of an
insight into what kind ofinvestment areas Microsoft is
looking into and also giving youa bit of sense of when the
items that we talk about, thefunctionality we talk about, is
going to be released into publicpreview and general
availability.

(06:03):
That will be TA and so any kindof overall what's your feeling
when you ran through this, whatwas kind of the overall feeling
that you got?

Nick (06:18):
We're still living.
The feeling I got is we'restill living in this AI age and,
of course, agents is thebuzzword of the day and I think,
as we're beginning to gothrough this, of course they use
that word a lot, and I thinkthe word agent from what I'm
discovering in my ownexplorations and

(06:39):
experimentations is this meansdifferent things to different
people.
Is an agent something that'sreally just an automation of
sort?
Is an agent something that isusing generative AI to go and
make decisions and that type ofthing?
Is you writing a function ofcode?
Is that an agent?
Now?
So these are the types ofthings I think it's going to

(07:01):
become very clear of what thatreally means.
Of course, we hear SatyaNadella in his there was a blog
or a podcast interview and he'slike everything's going to be
agents.
Well, it's like okay, are youslapping a label on it, or does
this actually mean something?
So, plan designer or, sorry,plan designer, because I see
plan designers as one of theinvestment areas the release

(07:22):
plan, of course, is veryco-pilot AI heavy, not to say
that there's not other featuresas well.
The thing is, I think, withMicrosoft announcements at
Ignite, they're becoming a lotmore public of what they're
working on and what they'reactually in progress.
So a lot of these things aren'tnecessarily a big surprise to
us.
It used to be, I would say andmaybe this is just my perception

(07:44):
used to be when the releasewave went out.
You'd read through it.
You'd go, oh, wow, that looksso cool, I can't wait till that
comes out.
Now it's like, okay, I knewthat's coming.
They already showed that up atIgnite, oh.
But now there's actually datesof when we'll be able to get our
hands on it or the generalpublic will be able to get their
hands on it, kind of thing,right?
So I think it's almost what youwant to call ignite the spoiler

(08:08):
alert of conference, because allthese things that are coming
they've kind of already told uswere coming.
There's a few things that kindof caught my eye that are sort
of new, but overall there'snothing that really not to say
they weren't exciting, but Ialso want to say it's nothing
that it's like, oh, this iscompletely new, I've never heard
of this before.
It's still mostly stuff that weknow is coming.

(08:30):
We've seen whether it demosdirectly from Microsoft we know
that we're involved in someprivate previews or there's
things that they've already kindof announced already.
So that's sort of my feeling.
I don't know what you'refeeling on it.

Ulrikke (08:45):
I know it's sort of the same, but I think we say the
same thing about ignite.
Actually funny, you shouldbring that up, because usually
it was that they hold off a hugeinvestment, a huge announcement
for ignite, for instance, andnow we see that we know already
before ignite usually what'scoming and um.
So I think that the age of thatbig announcement, surprise,
they don't have the luxury, theydon't have the time to do that

(09:06):
because they have to deliverfaster than that, so they don't
have that luxury anymore.
But yeah, I had the samefeeling you did.
It was reading through it.
It was a lot of things that wealready knew, so already, kind
of spoiler alert.
You're probably not going todiscover anything new from what
we're going to go through, butit may be a new, new seat to you

(09:28):
.
Actually, that's not true,because I for one, I learned
something, I discoveredsomething.
At the furthest possible youcan get in the release notes in
the deprecated section, and I'mgoing to keep that as a as a
cliffhanger.
Stay tuned for deprecatedsection.

Nick (09:45):
And I'm going to keep that as a cliffhanger.

Ulrikke (09:47):
Stay tuned for deprecated.
Stay tuned for what Ulrikelearned that you should have
known long ago from this releasewave.
So fasten your seatbelts,people.
It's going to be a wild ride.

Nick (10:01):
That's the ultimate teaser .
It's like on the news right.
Like you know, this thing couldbe poisoning your, your house.

Ulrikke (10:07):
Stay tuned at 11 and we'll tell you oh yeah, no, and
you would not believe what thisold lady knitted over christmas.
I don't give up, but that'sokay.
Enough of the chit chat, let'sget stuck into it usually these
episodes go on for hours andhours.
We don't have that time, solet's get cooking for, and first

(10:28):
and foremost, power apps.
Um, the three major investmentareas for this release wave in
terms of power apps are plandesigner, first and foremost,
and I am sure we're going totalk more about that.
It is to help you with thephase that comes before you push
the button and you create yourapp.
It's setting the data modellist.

(10:49):
It's looking at therequirements what user roles,
what security roles?
Who do you need?
What data do you need?
That sort of thing?
Extensible in-app agents.
There you go, first hit of thebuzzword.
So now everyone, take a shot ofginger, something, something.
Every app is intelligent andhelp you build in your flow of

(11:12):
work.
So you'll have agents in thebackground, in your face, in
your designer, in everything.
And then, third, bring your ownagents.
So the ability to bring yourown custom agents into Power
Apps, to contribute on an app,to oversee its work and to
understand what's going on.
That's also a big investmentarea for them.
So they have now divided thenew functional array coming or

(11:40):
the release plans into threeareas it's building modern apps.
It's co-pilot for Power Appsmakers and users and it's enable
enterprise scale.
So I'm going to let you gofirst.
What is kind of your for PowerApps?
Do you have a favorite thingyou want to highlight?

Nick (11:58):
Well, basically a summary of things.
So, of course, there's like sixitems that we can see at this
point.
A couple of ones I'll justquickly briefly mention before I
get into my favorites.
Select columns downloaded on amobile device I mean that's
pretty self-explanatory.
I think that's important ifyou're doing offline Manage your
source code for Canvas apps.

(12:19):
We have seen a little bit ofthis as well.
Of course, going to the YAMLformat and there's some places
where you can actually use theYAML We've talked about this in
past episodes.
So that's actually going to bepublic preview May 2025 and the
general availability June 2025.
So that's a good thing.
But my favorites are sort ofthe it's a little bit of all.

(12:41):
It's kind of three thingsrelated, but again, using
Copilot in model-driven apps,being able to do the formless
distance, so basically fillingin forms from other data.
We've seen demos of thisalready.
That's really cool.
Again, that's going to beavailable in public preview in
February, I believe, which ispretty good.

(13:02):
Getting an AI summary.
If you work in model-drivenapps and I think, some of the
apps that we work on, there'sjust so much information.
We have this big, huge form andthere's tons of fields and, of
course, there's the timeline andall this other stuff.
So I know for users they'relike woof all of this
information.
Now it's going to be like an AIsummary, like we can summarize
a document or summarize an emailthread.

(13:22):
We'll get a summary of all thatinformation.
That actually is really cooland, again, this should be.
I believe this is alreadybeginning to roll out.
I've not actually played withit yet, but it's going to be
general availability in April,so that will be.
I think that's just going to bea bit of a game changer in our
end user experience with modeldriven apps and talking about a
few other things being able tofind records and filter views

(13:46):
using natural language One ofthe things when I used to, when
I trained model-driven apps orwhen I used to train customers,
we focused a lot on advancedfind, because that's the key
thing how to find thisinformation.

Ulrikke (13:58):
Well, now, using natural language and for those
who are wait, wait, wait, thosewho are born in the new
experience, you have to explainwhat advanced find is yeah,
that's.

Nick (14:07):
That's so like, basically there used to be, we used to be,
it's still.
You could find it.
But you see all these lists ofrecords and stuff and you would
go into the advanced find.
So I want to find all the wagesubsidy agreements from last
april.
You would go in and advancefind you.
Here's the record you'relooking for, here's the date
range, maybe a certain type or acertain dollar value.

(14:29):
You have to put in all of thesevalues into your advance find.
You could save that as apersonal view.
So that's how it's in the views.
Now you save these as personalviews and then you'd be able to
get that record subset and findyour data.
If you're not overly clear onhow data modeling works or
something, this can be a littlebit of a challenge for some
users.
There's other users that Ifound got it right away, but

(14:53):
it's always been.
You might be.
As a former boss of mine said,data rich but information poor.
So advanced find was always avery cool thing to actually help
you find it, but it was alittle bit tedious and it was a
little bit had to get your headwrapped around it.
So this by being able to findthis information by just asking

(15:14):
it, as opposed to going in theadvanced find parameters.
Just say, hey, show me the wagesubsidy agreements from April
2023.
And then this should go out,find that information and
display it to you so that againcuts down on your time, allows
your apps to be more accessibleby users.
So those are my the keyhighlights out of Power Apps

(15:35):
that I'm really excited about,and just kind of this to me is
now bringing your app value tothe next level.

Ulrikke (15:44):
Yeah, awesome.
You kind of touched on a lot ofthese, a lot of the most
important things that I found aswell.
And also, just to say, whenadvanced fine is going away,
fetch XML in builder in XtremToolbox.
It's my go-to at the momentbecause I know that demo fine is
a bit slow.
So my highlight of for um forpower apps is actually the uh,

(16:10):
the plan designer.
I um.
I think that the promise ofthis is amazing and we've talked
about it before uh, how um itcan help plan out solutions to
business problems.
I don't see this becomingsomething I use in production.
I think it's still going to bea POC kind of helper tool.
So the idea that Microsoftseemed to think that we're going

(16:33):
to be able to use this andtrust that this is going to do
it right in a productionscenario is just not going to
happen in my view.
But, like I said, it's a POCtool or as a demo tool or just
to help you find errors in yourown work, or to validate your
own work, or for a junior tokind of get a head start.
It's a good thing.

(16:54):
So next time I'm creatingsomething for a specific use
case, I'll make sure to try theplan designer first to see what
that comes up with and maybe usethat as a starting point that
comes up with and maybe use thatas a starting point, but I will
definitely make it from scratchbecause I like that level of
detail still and have thatcontrol.
I think that goes for a lot ofpeople and this is a public

(17:15):
preview in December 24.
So this has been out for alittle while already, but it's
going to be TA in September of25.
So it's still a long way awayfrom being at a point where
Microsoft even thinks that itshould be general available and
that's when you can use it inproduction.
So this has to be used withcare and you have to make sure
to give it feedback.

(17:35):
So if you experience weirdthings or you experience great
things, make sure to give thatfeedback to Microsoft, because
they're waiting for it and if wedon't use it and we don't give
the feedback, they're going topush the GA they always do if
they don't have enough intel forit to be safe and also make
sure to enable it.
So you have to actually go inbecause this is disabled by

(17:57):
default.
You have to go in and try thenew Power Apps experience to get
the plan designer.
So make sure to do that if youwant to check it out.

Nick (18:05):
Yeah, and you don't need the preview environment anymore.
That was something a couple ofweeks ago when I did my video on
it.
At that point, you needed toenable it on a preview
environment.
I noticed yesterday I wasplaying around with some stuff
and it was actually enabled onjust one of my regular dev
environments.
Like still, you have to turn onthe new experience and they do
explain its preview.
But this should now beavailable for most everybody

(18:27):
that's listening to this.
If you want to try it out, tryit out, and we're keen to know
what your results and what yourfeedback is.
Of course, provide thatfeedback to Microsoft as well,
so they can make the tool better.

Ulrikke (18:39):
Yeah, definitely.
So, moving on to Power Pages,the key investment areas here
are web agents intelligent andhold on to your socks, chatbots
who engage across email teamsand WhatsApp AI-assisted,
form-filling, dynamic listre-visualization and governance

(19:02):
policies for Power Pages.
Visualization and governancepolicies for PowerPages.
They are making someinvestments into the design
studio, so you're going to havea few different enhancements
there and, of course, they'velisted a few new features, but
not a whole lot, so a bit thinon the PowerPages side of things

(19:24):
.
So what was your favorite thing?

Nick (19:27):
I think it was interesting .
I think, in terms of stuff thatI think is going to help a lot
of people, is the ability tohave a better file upload
process.
That's always been a pain pointfor uploading files in
PowerPages, so there's a newexperience, which should be
general availability June 2025.

(19:50):
The other thing that caught myeye and I'm glad it did so in
terms of stuff, and I knew thiswas sort of coming but the set
up Microsoft Entra external IDwith a wizard.
So I went through the other daybecause people are asking me
questions based on some of theother videos I've done regarding
Entra external ID.

(20:13):
So I went through the processand set it up in one of my own
environments.
But of course, I have to gointo Azure and do a lot of extra
configuration there.
So I was thinking, okay, I'mgoing to make, I should make a
blog or video on the Entra setup, plus a few other you know
things.
But the fact that we're goingto get a wizard that's going to
do that for us, I thought, okay,this is going to make my video.

(20:35):
Some of my videos go out ofdate real fast, but this is
really going to accelerate that,so I'm holding off on making a
video on that until we get thewizard, so in case anybody's
really looking for it.
So that jumped out as a okayfrom a content creator
perspective.
Okay, I could hold off on thatpoint of view, but I think it's
good because I think that wassomething funny.

(20:56):
We had the wizard for the AzureAD B2C in Power Apps portals.
We lost that wizard when theyflipped to PowerPages, which was
really weird.
But now we're going to get thatwizard back.
So, again, you should not uselocal authentication, you should
use an external provider.
We've preached this from themountaintops multiple times,

(21:16):
despite, I know, the fun thatyou're having with setting up
external identities right now,but this is the way.
So that was cool to see.
That's in public preview inApril of 2025.
The GA is nothing there yet, sohopefully it'll be a pretty
quick turnaround.

(21:37):
And then everything else yeah,there's adding more stuff with
Copilot.
Yeah, we've seen that we knowwhat it does.
The new modern list enhancingwith custom JavaScript and seen
that we know what it does thenew modern list enhancing with
custom JavaScript and newcontrols.
That, to me, is interesting,using the list component,
although I think a lot of timesfor some of the projects we work
on.
We kind of build our own customdata visualizations, especially

(21:57):
now with the web templates ascomponents.
But, that being said, I know alot of people still use the list
.
So it's kind of nice to knowthat that's being enhanced and
extended, because that listcontrol that's sort of there now
is the main one that's beenpart of ADX for like probably 10
years, so it's nice to see thatthat's getting a facelift and
getting some love.
So yeah, not a lot in top pages, but still.

Ulrikke (22:20):
No, that's weird that you read it like that, because I
read it the other way around,because what it said in the
description is that now you havethe old and out-of-the-box list
that we've had for a long time,but also, when you add a list
through the new designer, youhave the ability to turn on the
new list experience.
Now, that, of course, does nothave the ability to add custom
JavaScript or new controls to it, so what they're actually doing

(22:42):
is updating the new control,the new list control, to have
the ability to add JavaScriptand to add other new components
to it.
So maybe we need to go back andread it again, as we read it
differently, but I think theessence is the same that you can
now hopefully add JavaScriptcustom JavaScript to a list from

(23:02):
the studio designer, customJavaScript to a list from the
studio designer, and also withthe new list experience, and not
only the old one, because thatis a lot better than the old one
.

Nick (23:14):
Yeah, so it's more of a parody kind of play versus a new
feature.
No-transcript.

Ulrikke (23:24):
Yeah, exactly, and there's a lot of that.
If you know PowerPages well andyou dig into what the designer
can do, it's not a lot comparedto what you can actually do in
the model-driven app.
And I am working withupskilling a colleague on
PowerPages these days and hediscovers new things daily and
it's like, oh, why did you showme this to begin with?
And I'm like, well, if I showyou the whole of the model

(23:46):
driven app to begin with, youwould drown in information boy.
So it's, you know all in duetime.
But yeah.
So, yeah, let's move on toPower Automate.
This is turning into Nick'sfavorite because you kind of
touch on everything.
So, moving on to Power Automate, touch on everything.

(24:12):
Um.
So moving on to power automate,um, we have, uh, ai first is
kind of the big uh, no, uh, nosurprise, it's the big
investment area for with ourautomate.
So they and it's a bitinteresting dynamic, multimodal
and self-healing automationswith built-in AI through
generative actions andintelligent document processing,
build intelligent workflowsthrough a rich human in-the-loop

(24:35):
experience.
It sounds very promising,especially the self-healing
automations.
That really caught my eye.
And then also enterprise-readyend-to-end management of cloud
and desktop automations throughthe new process map,
enterprise-ready observability,orchestration and resource

(24:56):
optimization.
So that's very, veryinteresting.
So, of course, for PowerAutomate, we talk about cloud
flows.
That's one kind of category ofnew features.
Co-pilot for Power Automate wetalk about cloud flows.
That's one kind of category ofnew features.
Copilot for Power Automate anddesktop flows.
So which one did you pick asyour favorite for Power Automate
?

Nick (25:17):
I'll just say one.
It is the process maps, becauseyou know what it's like to
debug flows and the wholeend-to-end experience.
It's always a little bit trickyto see what went wrong where.
So to me that was the thingthat really jumped out.
And of course there's a lot ofother cool stuff.
But to me it's like havingworked with flows and having to

(25:38):
sometimes go back and even flowsyou've created or what other
people created, to kind of debugwhere went, where things went
wrong.
Self-healing honestly scares mea little bit because it's like
oh, you're going to go and fixthis on your own.
I don't know if I this is likesending your three-year-old out
with a chainsaw to cut down atree and you're just going to
stay in the kitchen, kind ofthing.

(25:58):
I'm not sure, but we'll see.
I mean, we have to trust theprocess as well.
What things popped out for you.

Ulrikke (26:05):
So I have the same one too, the process maps, because
it.
So what it says is that it's itwill visualize end-to-end
process dependencies and andalso it's an easier way to
navigate through the wholeautomation logs and connections
and so what's going on, and alsoto follow the data so you can

(26:27):
view and manage all flowdependencies across parents and
child desktop flows and workqueues.
So that's completely new,that's not something that we
have already today.
So that's why that kind oftriggered me, because we have
also a bit of a complexhierarchy of child parent flows,
just because that's in thenature of the work that's being

(26:49):
done.
But sometimes it's hard to kindof get to follow the data and
there's a lot of steps you haveto take and a lot of tabs open
at the same time to kind oftrack data across these.
So that's going to beabsolutely fantastic to be able
to visualize that in a processmap and I'll, yeah, sorry.

Nick (27:09):
I would say I have another favorite, but I'm going to let
you go because you're probablygoing to tell me it.

Ulrikke (27:14):
No, no sure, Go ahead.

Nick (27:16):
So when you're writing Power Automate flows and this is
to you and to everybodylistening don't you just love
working with the expressions andit having that under under
squiggly line or there's anerror of the expression and you
can't get the beeping thing towork right.
So the one thing that it isactually a public preview now is

(27:40):
to create and edit expressionswith cold pilot.
So this to me, I love thepromise of this of hoping cold
Copilot cooperates but writingexpressions, because it's
slightly different than PowerFacts, it's slightly different
than JavaScript.
It's one of these things thatwere, of course, created way
back when.
Sometimes it works, butsometimes I really struggle with

(28:03):
it.
I really struggle with it.
So this is something that didpop out to me.
It's like when you're doingcomplex stuff, it's like it was
a pain.
Now there's a co-pilot to helpout.
So I'm really hoping co-pilotis a really good buddy on me on
this one.
So that caught my eye.

Ulrikke (28:19):
Yep, yeah, 100%.
And also, of course, if you'renew to it, it's a great, great
learning tool.
Also another thing, because Idon't do a lot of work with
desktop flows, but I saw thisand I thought if I did I'm sure
this would be huge the abilityto use machine to credential

(28:45):
mapping in desktop flowconnections.
So it's a way to kind of set upwhich machines can use which
credentials, kind of define thatas a list, and then have that
set up to use the desktop flowconnections and benefit from the
same credential managementfeatures, such as encryption and
data protection, passwordrotation and application
lifecycle management.
So I just wanted to mentionthat for the desktop flow users

(29:09):
out there, because I bet that'sgoing to be a game changer.

Nick (29:13):
You sound like someone that has a little bit of
post-traumatic stress syndromefrom dealing with connection and
connection references lately.

Ulrikke (29:20):
I may have empathy for those who work with it.
Yes, all right.
So moving on to the big one,the big hitter here, microsoft
Co-Pilot Studio.
It's still a part of the PowerPlatform.
Even though co-pilots andagents are everywhere, the
studio for making co-pilotsstill reside inside of the same

(29:44):
bunch as the rest of these, samebunch as the rest of these.
So it says that 2025 releasewave one brings support for an
integration for custom agentswith Microsoft 365 co-pilot.
So that would be the big onethe mama son and the papa son of
co-pilots.
New capabilities for the studioembedded builder in Microsoft

(30:05):
co-pilot, including support foractions, additional enterprise
knowledge sources and theability to upgrade a Copilot
agent, also referred to as adeclarative agent, to an
independent Copilot Studiocustom agent that can access
additional capabilities and bepublished to other channels.
So it's kind of a conversionthing, then, I guess.

(30:26):
So, going from, I guess thatmeans if you have a flow, you
can convert it into an agent,and then new conversational
channels for custom agents, suchas WhatsApp and SharePoint.
The three, four areas here isco-pilot and AI, innovation,
co-pilot configuration, coreauthoring and then speech and

(30:49):
IVR.
So anything stand out for you.

Nick (30:55):
Nothing in particular I like the fact that it is the
thing is the Copilot Studio.
I'm not in it every day becausethe projects we're working on
just we're not quite there yet,we're close.
But when I go in to trysomething out or try to build
something for myself, I findCopilot Studio, the user
interface, changes on a weeklybasis and I know some of the

(31:19):
other folks working on buildinglabs and things.
It drives them crazy as well,because you know, we start
building a workshop on CopilotStudio and then all of a sudden
deliver it Like, oh shoot, theUI has changed.
And I know this has happened acouple times and I did get a
text from somebody and I won'tmention any names Daniel that
were kind of grumbling about thefact that the UI has changed
again.
So I know it has nothing to dowith the release plans, just

(31:42):
know that I think this is one ofthe bigger lists.
But I like the things like testand debug agent actions,
because I am trying to work on afew use cases just to get my
head wrapped around it and justtrying to figure out where
something has gone wrong orthat's not quite working right,
or is it something that I'd evenneed to worry about working on

(32:02):
the more advanced agents.
That's something that I'm kindof excited about.
Just to make that userinterface.
I hate to say it as much asMicrosoft and I'm going to go in
a little bit of a rant here.
As much as Microsoft likes tosay, oh, it's easy, anybody can
make an agent, some of the usecases that I've been running
into it's like it's not thateasy.
There's a lot of moving partsand, of course, maybe my use

(32:24):
cases are really complex.
But to go in and to know whatto do and where to do it, it's
really not that intuitive.
Sorry, I'm just going to say it, and it's not intuitive to me.
Some of the things are yeah,for sure, I can throw in some
PDFs and some knowledge and makea chat bot on it.
That's really cool.
But once I start, I want thisagent to be triggered on an

(32:45):
email coming in.
I want this to be triggered ona schedule, those types of
things.
It's like, yeah, to wire thisall together.
I know Lisa Crosby has somegood videos on that.
That's helped me over a fewhumps.
So I think this wholeexperience I get it.
You're excited, but you need tomake it a little bit more
approachable and I think some ofthe things I'm seeing here in
terms of the discovering andadding some other suggested

(33:09):
prompts and things if we canmake that a little bit flow, a
little bit smoother, then we'regoing to have better adoption
with agents.
I think we're going to see abit of an adoption, I don't want
to say a learning curve.
So, again, if you're worriedabout AI taking over your jobs,
not really.
I think there's a lot ofopportunity here and again,
maybe I'm just completelymissing something.
I've done a lot of cool thingsat Co-Pilot Studio.

(33:31):
There's a lot of things that Iwas led to believe by marketing
is easy and it's not, and Iactually have screenshots of
Co-Pilot going completely offthe rails.
So, anyways, rant over Co-PilotStudio.

Ulrikke (33:46):
You say that, but we all know it's not true.
It's not over.

Nick (33:49):
No.

Ulrikke (33:53):
This rant is over.
Okay, this particular one isover.
Something that caught my eyewith the feature that you're
mentioning, which, by the way,is public preview in January, so
you'll be able to see this popup in your environments any day
now in GA in May, is the lastpiece of the feature, which was
simulated test data, Creating aset of test data allows makers

(34:15):
to verify the functionality in acontrolled environment.
It does not say who creates it,just says creating a set of test
data allows makers.
Is it the agent that createsthe test data?
Is it you that creates the testdata?
I'm not sure.
But it says of test data allowsmakers.
Is it the agent that createsthe test data?
Is it you that creates the testdata?
I'm not sure, but it sayssimulated test data.
It makes me hopeful because oneof the big hurdles lately in

(34:38):
multiple projects of mine isthat the test data that we're
working on isn't good enough andthe quality of the solutions
that we're making can only be asgood as the test data.
So this is really big and it'sspeaking to your point directly
that when you're troubleshootingsomething, the data needs to be
there or else you can't followand troubleshoot and see what's

(34:59):
wrong.
So I absolutely agree.
This is one of my favorites aswell, and I also saw the Enrich
agent with third-party datausing extensions.
This will be a public previewin february and ga in may.
I have a feeling this might bedelayed.
Not sure why, but this is theability to connect to

(35:24):
third-party data sources using apre-build extensions.
So extensions combineconnections, topics, flows and
configuration files to quicklyenable agents to access
third-party data fordomain-specific use cases, such
as prospects to cash, configure,price quote, benefit
compensation and IT help desk.
I think the third-party data,the extension into third-party

(35:49):
data, is kind of the key tounlocking the next level of
these agents, because we've allseen the demos and we go I
wonder when this can book myholiday for me and you go.
Well, it can't because itdoesn't have access to any of
the external sources orinformation that it needs.
But now with this it will.
So for me this is the numberone thing.

(36:12):
And also I saw something else,if I can just mention one more
thing that you can now addsuggested prompts to a custom
co-pilot, which hasn't beenpossible before and is GA in May
.
And it's fun when they say afrequently cited problem with
conversational AI solutions wekind of admit that they have had
some feedback on this is thatusers can't discover what it can

(36:36):
do.
Used to the UI, the graphical,the GUI, the graphical user
interface, where we see what canbe done through cues on what we
see.
So you see a button, it affordsto be pushed.

(36:59):
It's common usability kind ofpatterns.
So with voice, that's hardbecause you can't see it, and if
it doesn't tell you you don'tknow it.
And the same goes for promptingyou don't know what's possible
because you can't see it.
So now you can add those.
You know the little star iconthing.

(37:19):
You can add those suggestedprompts to custom code pilots as
well.
So that's pretty neat.

Nick (37:26):
Yeah, that would be so useful as well.
Just to see.
Oh, I didn't know you could dothat.
So that's pretty neat.
Yeah, that would be so usefulas well.
Just you know to see.
Oh, I didn't know you could dothat.

Ulrikke (37:37):
Even if you don't use it that time, but just the
mental cue to know that it ispossible.
Next up, are you finished withthe Copa de Sef?
Did you have anything else youwanted to highlight?
Not right now, okie dokie, doyou know that this is a podcast,
right?
So shaking your head doesn'treally work.

Nick (37:52):
Oh, if we're a video podcast, we get a lot of video
views.
Oh, we do you?
Wouldn't know.
I'm like the little kid on aphone right when you're sort of
like you know did you have funtoday.

Ulrikke (38:09):
And for those of you who did not understand that joke
, you have to watch the video tosee what it yeah, exactly okay.
So next one up is ai builder.
Now, this is an old friend ofmine.
We played along, we played withai builder for I don't know,
five, six years ago or more, andit was fun then and it's still
fun.
And, um, I'm happy to seeMicrosoft making some licensing
changes to make.

(38:31):
The AI Builder release enhancescontent and decision
intelligence with advancedcapabilities and document

(38:53):
processing and promptengineering, and that is
integrated with CodeBuddy Studioand this is kind of the new
interface for AI Builder as theprompt library.
We're probably going to touchon that somewhere.
The document processing agentswill provide an out-of-the-box
data engine specialized indocument processing, allow you

(39:15):
to monitor, validate and controlyour document processing
workflow at scale, and then theprompt builder will give you new
tools to extend the customer AIactions.
New features include theability to diversify the set of
inputs and data sources that canbe processed through the maker
prompt.
So, for instance, you cangenerate different content types

(39:38):
, including documents goingbeyond just text and JSON
formatting.
So that's very interesting.
So that's very interesting, andso the three different
categories we have are buildintelligent solutions with AI
capabilities, extend co-pilotcapabilities with AI,
intelligent document and emailprocessing, and then prompt
builder.

(39:58):
That's the fourth category here.
So what was the thing?

Nick (40:05):
that stood out the most for you.
Well, I've only started to worka little bit with prompt
builder and that is as I justpooped on Copilot Studio.
I love AI Builder, so I'm notanti-AI, but AI Builder for
years.
It's like it could do some coolthings, and the ability to make
your own custom prompts I thinkis really amazing.
That's just a really coolfeature that you can begin and

(40:25):
fill in parameters into that.
So the ability to to work withthe, the process and then
generate the documents withthose prompts, uh, I think it's
going to open up a lot of newuse cases and things like that.
So, um, the whole promptbuilder aspect of ai builder, um
, that's something I'm, as I'mlearning it, learning the new

(40:46):
features and beginning to use itin actual, real use cases.
To me, this is where it's kindof cool to see the investment
and it's also cool to see theinvestment that, yeah, ai
builder was a thing and then fora while not that I say it went
quiet, but people just weren'tall that excited about it.
But it seems to be, I think AIbuilder because of CoPilot
Studio and and the agents, allof a sudden realizing hey, we

(41:09):
need ai builder because it cando so many things and we can
incorporate that either into ourregular process or cloud flows
or whatever, but also within theco-pilot studio.
So, um, just just the fact thatthere's a big section on it and
there's a lot of new thingsthat are coming out.
It looks like mostly May, oncein February, creating the
perfect prompt within AI Builderas well, so, you know, with

(41:37):
help from Copilot.
But, yeah, so the highlightedthing to me was the process and
generate documents from Copilotprompts, because AI Builder to
me, that is one of the thingsthat's so good at is processing
documents like invoices andother images and getting that
into data and spitting that outand allowing you to do actions
and that kind of thing.
Um, so even I've been workingwith, uh, trying to build

(41:58):
something where I'm getting anemail and it's actually
extracting information from thatemail and able to use that to
to do some downstream things.
So that I know I'm kind of allover the map here, but I'm a big
fan of AI Builder and I'mexcited to see it growing up and
finally getting a little bit ofresponsibility within the Power

(42:18):
Platform and cases where we canactually use it in a project
and actually demonstrate it andcustomers can see uh, pretty a
lot easier than maybe it couldhave been in the past well, yeah
, and and I don't think thatit's talked about nearly as much
as it could be, because evennot even now with the advent of,

(42:41):
you know, ai as it is today, wehave customers that.

Ulrikke (42:44):
So think that as soon as you want to kind of process
something that it's machinelearning and it has to have a
million copies to have a goodconfidence score and things like
that, and it's not, it's fairlyeasy compared to what it used
to be.
So the thing that kind of stoodout for me was streamlining the

(43:09):
prompt generation with promptfragments.
It's publicly available fromMay and it's GA in July.
It's a new feature completelyfor AI Builder where you're able
to break your prompts up intosmall reusable components.
So maybe you have a sentencethat you want to reuse or you

(43:31):
have a good starting prompt, forinstance as an interaction
designer, I, or some things thatyou want to use to provide
consistency across your prompts,but also make sure that you
capture common instructions andformats and phrases.
So that really stood out for meas one of the favorite things

(43:51):
for this prompt builder sectionof AI Builder.
But, yeah, also the fact thatyou can now manage multiple
prompt iterations.
It's public preview in May.
You have versioning for prompts.
That's very interesting and youcan compare different versions
and see how well they're doingand which is performing better
and which is getting morepopular.

(44:12):
And also that comes with ALMcapabilities to create, manage
and track multiple versions ofprompts.
That's really powerful.
So this is really something tokeep an eye on for sure.
Anything else for AI Builderyou wanted to touch on?

Nick (44:31):
No, lots and lots in AI Builder.
Check it out.
So let's before you lose power,let's move on.

Ulrikke (44:37):
Yeah, so Microsoft Dataverse.
Now we have two categories left.
It's Microsoft Dataverse andit's governance and admin,
before we get to the very juicydeprecated stuff.
But so what it says forMarkzware Dataverse?
They have a bit of a differentintroduction.
They kind of talk more aboutwhat Dataverse is than what the

(44:59):
key investment areas for thisrelease wave is.
So, but the four main areasthat they've categorized their
functionality within is dataworkspace and extend your
co-pilots with knowledge andactions.
Improve co-pilot studioecosystem for enterprise scale

(45:19):
and for the improved enterpriseexperience for Power Platform.
And this is then Power.
This is Dataverse without thegovernance and admin bits.
For me it's a bit weird to keepthose separated, but I know
that that's the way it's been inthe past as well, so but sure.
So what was the thing thatstood out for you?

Nick (45:41):
So the big thing that stood out for me, like I said,
not not really, like I said, notreally well interesting in
terms of functionality thatwe're looking for.
Functionality that I'm reallysurprised about is the ability
to support large solution filesup to one gigabyte.
So for those of you workingwith ALM, you know the current
solution size is 96 megabytes.
Now and I know in the projectsthat we're working on, which do

(46:04):
have a lot of complexity, wehave a lot of different things
going on in terms of power pages, model-driven apps, power
automate flows, plugins, thewhole bit.
That solution file is probably20 to 30 megabytes, not exactly
sure.
But even then, in terms of theamount of time it takes to
process through the pipelinesfor solution, importing some of

(46:25):
the issues that we run intosolutions, even that becomes a
bit of a challenge sometimes.
So the fact that someone islooking towards a one gigabyte,
which is like 100 times or 50times bigger than let me do my
math anyways just way biggerthan our solution file, kind of
surprises me and I just kind ofwonder what kind of scenarios

(46:48):
would require a one gigabytesolution file.
And maybe this is just forfuture expansion, but also, I
think, with all the things withCopilot Studio and the agents
becoming more solution aware.
Transporting that might take upa lot of space, so hopefully
that also means some newsolution improvements in terms
of deficiencies in terms of thesolution imports and within

(47:11):
pipelines and stuff.
These things weren't called outspecifically, but the fact that
we're going to have largesolution files kind of surprised
me to go to that size.
So if you're someone thatactually has a solution file
that could potentially approachinto like a one gigabyte size
next time at an event orsomething where Hover beers,

(47:31):
let's chat about that, becauseI'm really curious to see what
your experiences are withsomething that massive.
So that was the big thing.
Of course, a lot of otherthings happening with Dataverse,
some stuff in terms of thesovereign clouds, of course,

(47:53):
copilot, their integration intofinance and operations Of course
we deal with that sometimes too, with some of the dual-right
stuff and, of course, usingDataverse AI functions to
enhance data quality.
This is another thing that Ithink people kind of wonder.
Again, as I mentioned earlier,um, data rich, but information
poor.
Uh, ai to help clean up thatdata, make it a little bit more
robust, make it more useful thatcould be a very good thing, but

(48:15):
again there has to be a trustlevel there and I'm not sure
we're quite there yet in termsof letting ai fix data or clean
up data.
Um, so again, dataverse to meis the the core of the power
platform.
It was interesting because wetalked about Ignite, ignite.
There really was no discussionabout Dataverse at all.
It wasn't even mentioned.

(48:36):
They talked a lot about Fabricand Fabric databases and SQL and
again that was more of ageneralized conference.
But again it was.
Dataverse was sort of missing.
Its absence was sort of missed.
But so it's good to see thatDataverse is being enhanced.

(48:57):
Of course it is because, like Isaid, it is sort of the heart
and soul of the Power Platformin my eyes.
So it's good to see some ofthese things and, of course, it
being expanded and enhanced aswell.
But one gigabyte solution filesthat kind of blows my mind a
little bit.
So what kind of stood out foryou there?

Ulrikke (49:15):
Yeah, I had the same one and my thought was
PowerPages actually, because ifyou have a PowerPages site and
you have a lot of images and youhave a lot of heavy files and
stuff like that, then that couldpotentially drive the size up.
I know that you can still have,even though you're uploading
images to Dataverse.
Now it's using Azure WebStorage behind the scenes, but I

(49:36):
don't know how kind of thatload is carried from one
environment to another.
I don't know if that wouldincrease the file size of the
solution, if that's actually in,because now we see, because it
says in the description,customers seamlessly work on
larger volumes of data, and sothat tells me that this is not

(49:57):
necessarily configuration tablesand and columns and forms.
There are metadata.
But if it's actual data, thenprobably we're talking power
pages, because because that is,as far as I know, the only
product that actually moves datafrom one environment to another
using solutions.
So my bet would be actuallyclose to home and PowerPages and

(50:18):
it has new endpoints for these.
We have new endpoints for thesein the Microsoft Dataverse APIs
.
So make sure that if you'reusing the Microsoft Dataverse
API to download and uploadsolutions to be aware that
they're changing the endpoints.
That's kind of one of thethings to look out for.

(50:39):
Also, I saw that there now and Iread this the wrong way so I
just wanted to point that out incase anyone else did Enable
ISVs to submit custom Copilotagents for certification.
I thought that meant that theycould now submit kind of product
bundled stuff, Because it saysyou can now bundle packages and

(51:02):
offer them.
But I thought that meant thatthey could offer them in a store
or something.
But it's not.
It's for that to count towardstheir.
For instance, you have anapplication special
certification things forpartners and ISVs, so it's
actually more targeted towardsthat.
And then I also saw theexpanded virtual table

(51:23):
capability for sovereign crowdslike GCC, GCC High and DoD.
So it's good for you guys.
Finally get some updates.

Nick (51:38):
Yeah, that was the number one.
Well, not the number one, thebig question.
I got running the booth atIgnite I show or talk to about
some sort of feature orsomething in Dataverse.
It may have been the plandesigner and the very first
thing like, is this available toGCC?
And I'm like, oh no.
Or I'd say, oh well, you knowthey have.
I have this problem.

(51:58):
Oh, we'll do this, this, this.
Yeah, we're at GCC, we can't dothat.
So I mean, yeah, so Microsoftdoes throw you guys some love a
little bit here and there.

Ulrikke (52:08):
I feel for you guys.
I have to be a special kind ofcrazy to work with that.
So anything else you wanted totouch on from Microsoft
Dataverse no, they said buildlow-code apps with Snowflake.

Nick (52:23):
So I'm going to plead ignorance a little bit on
exactly what Snowflake is andwhat it does.
I know there's a Snowflakeconnector so, again, this is
probably something that I needto read a little bit more on
what exactly Snowflake is.
But if you are using it, well,yeah, you'll be able to create
some low-code apps using that asa connector within the Power,

(52:46):
within within snow within thepower platform.
So I think it's a it is avirtual tables kind of thing, so
it's like some of the otherthings like that.
But yeah, so I will admit Idon't know.
There's things I do know,things I don't I kind of know
and things I don't know anythingabout, and snowflake is one of
them.

Ulrikke (53:25):
Yeah, so this is also related, I think, to the
expanded, so those are, ofcourse, then also available for
the other ones.
So I guess this means that youcan create apps on your
Snowflake data using Power Apps,and that goes probably for
Power Pages down the linesomewhere and all the other
juicy bits.
All right, moving on to thelast bulk of the release plans.

(53:49):
Moving on to the last bulk ofthe release plans, the next most
exciting thing afterdeprecations is, of course,
governance and admin.
This focus this time is onenhancements to the admin center
, which we've already seen andenhanced.
Focus on co-pilot adoption andsecurity, tenant-wide inventory

(54:10):
view and simplified environmentstrategy to govern Power
Platform tenants moreefficiently and at scale.
For those of you who havemultiple Power Platform tenants
and want to kind of admin themacross, upgrades to resource
monitoring and pipelines andalso the admin connector for
Power AdMate.
Get some nice little labs andupdates, so anything stand out

(54:34):
for you for this.
Oh, sorry, I just needed tomention the categories.
Three categories Applicationlifecycle management, enterprise
scale administration andsecurity and compliance.
Sorry.

Nick (54:45):
Yeah, the couple of things that pointed out.
For me, One interesting one andI think this is actually
beginning to roll out, or maybe,no, sorry it's not I think I
probably saw a demo on this wasthe secure data access using
filtered views.
So this is always.
This is an interesting one.
Yes, we can secure data withsecurity roles in terms of based

(55:07):
on the ownership of data.
We can do column security, butthis is new where you can secure
access using filtered views.
So you can say I only want toallow people to see the
opportunities in the city ofSeattle, kind of thing, and you
can create that view and thenprovide only access, secure that
data access.

(55:27):
So that's kind of aninteresting another security
tool in the toolbox which isgood in terms of data, because
that's always a thing of whatdata you want people to see and
not see.
So that stood out.
The other thing that stood outfor me is the viewing all the
pipelines and gettingrecommendations in the
deployment hub.
So again, this is the ALMfeatures we're talking about Be

(55:49):
able to a single place to seeall of these deployments
happening across the board,where, if you have multiple
environments and I think we'veseen this as well, it's like
what pipelines have run when,which ones have failed, what's
really going on with our wholeALM picture.
This to me is prettyinteresting and also be able to
get some kind of recommendationsfor to allow some consistency

(56:12):
there and everything like that.
So they said more details onthis will be coming soon and
again it's like we can view thehistory of some of our pipelines
and things.
But again, this is another wayto consolidate.
It's really I think theinformation is there, but it's
just a way to consolidate thatand make it a little bit easier
for folks that are responsiblefor ALM and deployment processes

(56:33):
, which we're kind of in thatboat with what we're working on
right now.
So I'm excited about thisAnother tool.
That's great.

Ulrikke (56:42):
Yeah, no, for me, it's more that they're just moving
the insights from one place toanother.
It's exactly what you get fromthe model-driven app that you
have in your pipeline.
Host is that?
Now, people don't have to go inthere to see it.
You can see it from the admincenter.
So it's not really new, it'sjust same information.
New place yeah, which is alwaysgood.

(57:06):
Okay, if you say sono-transcript.

Nick (57:29):
And then we have these new Power Automate sorry, power bi
views in the admin center.
There is, the information isthere, but it is in a lot of
places and it's hard to figureout what's important and who.
The question is, who is goingto monitor that?
Who is supposed to be lookingat that?
So the more we can kind of getthis to one spot, I think the

(57:51):
better.
I'm not sure if this is gettingus all the way there, but that
just sort of what triggered meis this is again, if this is
going to be, this is the sourceof information.
This is where you go officially.
I think that could help.
But that's probably morediscussion there.

Ulrikke (58:10):
This is going to be half-baked, and then they're
going to come up with anotherhub center something, because
they never really finish the oneuser interface and the one
place, one stop shop.
Everything's got to be perfect.
Live in the pink-colored world.
And then there's another thingand it just keeps piling on
different views into the samekind of data.

(58:32):
It just dilutes the.
It makes them up very hard tosee.
And where do you, where shouldyou go?
And then you have the old andthe new, and the legacy and the
deprecated, the classic, the.
It's confusing to people.
So unless they turn somethingold off, I'm not overwhelmed.

(58:54):
Yeah, and of course, the newimproved power platform admin
center is just such one thingand it's all good and well.
But it's old news the fact thatthis is also old news but very
powerful that you can now masksensitive data fields with
column level security.
It's a way to eliminate bulkexport of some fields, which is

(59:15):
a common GDPR requirement in ourregion.
So this is one of the thingswhere we have a customer request
for information paper and thisis one of the requirements we
have to kind of make special.
We have to develop thisourselves, but not anymore,
because this now is a part ofthe package.

(59:37):
Admins can grant specialprivileges to selected users to
see the sensitive fields asmasked by default, and they can
also have certain users have thesensitive fields open.
But you can't bulk export thesefields and that's kind of where
that requirement is coming from, I guess.
So it's fantastic.
And also, access to sensitivefields are audited to allow the

(01:00:01):
security team to monitor forpotential fraud, which is a huge
deal, and this was publicpreview in August, in 24, and
it's going to be TA in April.
So I really hope that that'sgoing to be TA soon so that we
can all use that in ourproduction environments.

Nick (01:00:18):
Yeah, that is cool.

Ulrikke (01:00:21):
So anything else you wanted to highlight.

Nick (01:00:26):
No, I mean, yeah, there are a lot of features here IP
firewalls, managed identities,expanded virtual network support
.
I know that's definitelyimportant to a lot of again talk
about security and things likethat who has access to certain
things, permit or deny guestaccess to an environment as well
.
So a lot of true governancestuff and governance is one of

(01:00:46):
these less than exciting topics,but extremely important.
So, again, there's a lot ofgood features.
It's just trying to lock downthings, make it more secure,
protect your users fromthemselves and making sure your
data is protected, especiallynow we're living in a world
again we have agents.
We're doing this.
Data Security and protection ofyour data is going to be so

(01:01:09):
important in terms of not onlywho you give access to your data
, but what you give access toyour data.
So definitely keep an eye onthat yeah and yeah, absolutely
so.

Ulrikke (01:01:25):
One of the last things that caught my eye for this is
delegate admin responsibilitywith group admin roles which is
going to be public preview inApril which is a way to kind of
group admin controls or rolestogether and delegate different
specialities to different usersor different groups, different

(01:01:50):
groups.
It's a way to manage bigenterprise solutions and
environments where you have alot of those, and also bulk
operations on managedenvironments and create
environment groups is also partof this.
So this is a huge tool forthose who are managing huge
tenants and multi-tenant levelenvironments.

Nick (01:02:06):
Right, so anything else, before I dive into the juicy
deprecations, so, for those ofyou who have been waiting for
the deprecations, here we go.

Ulrikke (01:02:16):
For one hour, for those of you who are left.

Nick (01:02:20):
Or skipped ahead.

Ulrikke (01:02:22):
Or skipped ahead.
That is right Now.
Actually, this is just one ofthose dull moments for me,
because I always look into thedeprecations.
It's worth having a look at.
You'll get a list of the thingsthat are being deprecated.
And then I saw the MicrosoftDataverse legacy connector for
Power Automate Flow isdeprecated and it's like, well,

(01:02:42):
yes, old news, it's been since2022.
What else is new?
And then I started to read,because there is no alternative,
right?
So if you want to trigger aflow on a contact record, for
instance in Dataverse from theribbon, you don't really have a
choice.
You have to use the legacyconnector.
And then and I had actuallysomeone on the team comment and

(01:03:07):
told me last week or somethingwhy don't you still use the
legacy connection?
I said, well, there's no optionyet.
So until Microsoft comes upwith an option, I'm going to be
forced to use the old one,aren't I?
And then I started reading it'slike you have to review your
cloud flows and then swap thisout before January 24.
So that's one year ago.

(01:03:28):
And most of them are using thewhenever we selected, which I'm
using to trigger something basedon changes in environment.
And then I learn, no, no, no,the new or the current Dataverse
connector has that option.
I just, I didn't, I didn't evenlook.

(01:03:50):
So it's been there for what sixmonths?
We talked about this, I know,but it just, you know, in the
midst of everything, that waskind of the last of my worries
was that thing.
And then, and just last week, Iwas telling someone off.
For just you know, fuck you, Ineed to use the legacy ones.

(01:04:11):
I've been using it a lot.
They're not going to shut itoff.
They're not going to shut itoff Unless they come up with
another alternative.
It's not going to shut it off.
I completely missed me and so Ithought you know what, I'm
going to own up to my mistakeand I'm going to go duh, minus
points for me for not payingattention, for not listening

(01:04:32):
when you tell me, or otherteammates tell me, they have a
new one.

Nick (01:04:37):
We talked about this in one of our episodes.
It was one of the updates.
We talked about the whole factthat not only can we run it from
selecting a row, but we canpass parameters to it as well.
We were all excited about it.
Yep, I still use the oneselecting a row, but we can pass
parameters to it as well.
We were all excited about it.

Ulrikke (01:04:52):
Yeah, I still use the old one.
It never resonated, it nevercame into the, it just went from
yes, I saw this, this isexciting and it never registered
, it just filled them throughout the other end.
So now I have to go through Idon't know how many current
projects, I think five.

(01:05:12):
Yeah, I know them, I can do it,but it's just one of those
things.
So yeah, in the spirit ofsharing things that maybe
someone else can relate to, it'snot just you with a Teflon mind
, mean you're in the boat withyou.

Nick (01:05:33):
So I have got to do it to be fair, it's it's happened to
be as well.
Where I'm, I'm working, like II see something and I'm like,
and then, and then I realizedlike, oh yeah, this is a new way
, or this is a different way,and like, oh, that's really cool
.
And then it's sort of like,wait a minute, we talked then.
Then the memory kicks in, like,oh yeah, we talked about this

(01:05:54):
way back when it's not just,it's not just I am teasing you,
because I do remember we didtalk about this, but I'm, I'm
positive if we, if we, if welook back in the last 50
episodes, there's probably adozen things that I got excited
about that I've completelyforgotten about that and I'm
doing it.

Ulrikke (01:06:11):
You know, to be fair, to me, most of the things that
we talk about are things thatare being announced and they're
in preview or they're kind ofnew, and also we say this all
the time in the podcastSomething becomes GA.
It's like, well, we talkedabout this ages ago, but you
can't really use it in aproduction environment and the

(01:06:33):
solutions that we have now arevery much in production.
So, of course, until it's GA,and then if I miss the GA, you
know it's all the way gone.
So I think it's also aby-product of always being a
little bit in touch of what'spreview.
I also have a reflex that Iwon't use anything in production
right away, so I don't have alag or a delay for what I want

(01:06:57):
to start using things.
So I think it's more that Imissed the ga date for this or
something along those lines.

Nick (01:07:02):
I'll tell myself that at least so please yeah, no, that's
totally fair, because I knowthere's things too.
It's like even in a projectlike, oh, we could do it this
way, and then you realize, oh,this is a preview feature we
shouldn't like.
I think the the low codeplugins was one.
I had a bunch of ideas and it'slike okay, it's still in
preview.
I think they renamed it.

(01:07:25):
Anyways, I get you, it makessense.

Ulrikke (01:07:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, and actually this week I'm
going to bash my head against awall of preview features for
three days in a row.
Aren't I lucky?
Because that is what theHackathon ACDC is all about, and
it's starting on Thursday.
It's three days of hacking andbashing my head against a

(01:07:48):
preview wall and get all bloody,but it's a lot of fun because I
learn a lot of new stuff, sothen I can use all the preview
features I want and that's goingto be a lot of fun.
I'm going to dive into AI andagents and plan designer and
co-pilots and all that kind ofstuff, and I just love how
chatbots are now coming backinto the picture.
And you talk about Microsoftco-pilot chat that we saw last

(01:08:13):
week or the week before.
I was like when I saw thatannouncement I was like he got,
he's got to be kidding, right.
Microsoft co-pilot chat that'sa whole.

Nick (01:08:24):
that's a whole.
Other rant the fact that youneed I know I saw, yeah a
youtube video explaining thedifference between microsoft 365
co-pilot and microsoft 365co-pilot chat, and to me it's
like if you need to do a youtubevideo on it, you screwed up in
your naming and your branding.
Um, I'm sorry, it's a nicevideo.
It was very, the persondelivering it was wonderful.

(01:08:47):
But it's sort of like if youhave to do a video to explain
these things, if I was a higherup I'd be like, ah, this isn't a
good look, but that's just me,yeah, and I'm going to be bummed
out.
I'm not going to the hackathonthis year, so I'm going to major
FOMO this week.
But good luck on your team andeverything.
I'm sure it'll be wonderful andexcited to hear the results.

Ulrikke (01:09:10):
Yeah, and you're going to be there in spirit, but you
have other plans.
It's not this week but nextweek, right?
Because you're traveling tothis part of the country but
you're not coming to see me.

Nick (01:09:21):
Well, you said you weren't around and you said you weren't
available, so it's like Becauseyou're going to be in Tallinn
because you're going to be intolin.
Is that next week?
Yeah, that's the end of january.
So the yeah, so delivering that.
So, yeah, getting excited aboutthat, I think, uh, converging
and uh, delivering a session onthe developer side of power
pages.
I have some stuff I'm workingon that.

(01:09:43):
I I'm thinking I might evenannounce there in terms of some
stuff I'm working on withinPowerPages.
That I think is kind of veryinteresting.
Let's just say that and yeah,so looking forward to that.
So, yeah, a lot of a few things.
Now we're getting into thebeginning to enter in the new
conference season.

Ulrikke (01:10:00):
Of course, it never really ends, but there are a
little bit peaks and valleys, soyeah, 100%, and I can't wait to
get back on the plane and thenout on the other end, because
that's what we do.
All right, it was good chattingto you and it was good to kind
of go through it and have a feelof stuff.

(01:10:22):
As you all now know, there'snot a lot of new things in here,
but there are somesolidifications and some things
to look forward to, especiallyin the co-pilot stuff.
So make sure to leave a commenton what your favorite thing was
, and maybe we missed yourfavorite feature.
Let us know and give us a bitof a smacking if you want to
hear from you.
All right, I'll catch you later.

(01:10:43):
Nick, have a wonderful rest ofyour morning and I'll catch you
soon.

Nick (01:10:48):
All right, sounds good.

Ulrikke (01:10:50):
All right, bye-bye.
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