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Barbara L Parker (00:00):
Welcome to
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Our lovely guest today isMiriam White.
She's a nurse, a mother and amodel, so come learn with us
today.
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Barbara L Parker (00:38):
So, Miriam,
tell me a little bit about your
journey of being a model.
What got you into it?
What made you decide to dosomething different?
Miriam White (00:48):
so, um, when I was
about three I believe it was my
mother and my father actuallyin the city of Cleveland, there
was a studio downtown and theydid commercials.
So my mother and fatheractually um put me into
commercials early on.
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When, um I was like three, um,throughout the you know, as I
got older, every once in a while, every now and then, um, I
would go out to Columbus do umlike modeling jobs, uh, just
here and there, just, you know,just little stuff that little
kids do.
And then, as I got older,modeling actually helped me
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during college so that, you know, I had a car note and
everything like that.
And that's where stuff got alittle gray area, um, I guess
you could say that Um, so, withmy height, at the time when I
was younger, I had long limbs,so like long arms, long legs.
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So it was like, ooh, she's goingto be tall type of thing.
I was not.
So come my teenage years, Istopped growing in the eighth
grade.
So I am five three and in themodeling world five three is
more like nude.
You know it takes a turn Likeyou're not really that model
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that is going to be on a runwaytype of model, but you'll,
you'll take really good sexypictures.
So, um, I had a cousin that wasactually a model in New York.
That is her profession.
She's like five, seven, um.
She hooked me up with herphotographers.
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So during the time that, um my12th grade year and into college
, I did a lot of um stuff forprom dresses, like you know,
like prom um swimsuits, maybenothing like extra sexy or
anything like that.
And then of course, from thereI was getting you know, like, oh
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, you know, I want you to comeand model for me and stuff.
And then, like I said, that'swhere it started to get a little
.
I say great, but it was likedark end of it people started
approaching you with sketchyoffers, exactly with sketchy
offers, because it was like oh,you know, I have this clothing
line come out here and I alwaysbrought somebody with me, which
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that was the biggest thing withmy family members.
It was like somebody is alwaysgoing to come out with you.
So it stopped a lot of that,because it's like oh yeah, you
know you can fly me out there,but yeah exactly.
It's like, yeah, you can fly meout there, but you know I got a
companion, so my companion, youeither have to fly them out or
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we can fly out together.
But I'm letting you know thatit's a companion coming in and
it's like, oh, maybe not.
Barbara L Parker (03:52):
How did you
maintain your standards of?
This is what I'm going to do.
This is what I'm not going todo, because sometimes money gets
to be that driving force forpeople to make certain decisions
.
So what did you do Exactly?
Miriam White (04:07):
My thing was, my
biggest thing was my family.
At the end of the day, I alwaystell people I never wanted kids
, but I always had to look atsomething like if my mother and
my father who put me into, youknow, like television and
modeling at three years old ifthey look at these pictures, how
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are they going to feel?
So I always looked at it likethat, like if I look at a
picture and I'm not proud tolook at that picture, it's like
no, I can't, you know, I cannotdo that.
If I ever have kids, you know,and this pops up later on, am I
going to be embarrassed about it?
If I ever become a senator orsomething like that is just
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gonna pop up and be like youknow, she, she was out there,
you know, like god, just hangingout you know like you know it
was.
It was one of those things.
That is what kept me grounded,because it's always like is
there something out there andI'm sure that it is.
You know, um, nothing that Idon't feel like could could hurt
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me in any type of way.
So it was like no nude stuff.
But if somebody snapped apicture of me changing or
something like that, I, you know, it's one of those things that
you don't have control over butcause that on set everybody's
changing clothes.
We literally just like if it wasus and it was a fashion show or
something like that.
We're literally just takingclothes off in front of each
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other.
You know you're not paying anyattention, you're just hurrying
up trying to get dressed so thatyou can go out there.
I did do fashion shows.
I had to wear extremely tallheels, you know, and extremely
tall heels with somebody thatcan.
You know their legs can go, andI'm taking like two, three
steps to keep up with them.
And I'm taking like two, threesteps to keep up with them.
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But you know I have done thatand I've done hair modeling.
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Barbara L Parker (06:48):
So when you're
in the modeling world, there's
a lot of times where beingaround other people or going for
auditions and not getting theopportunities it negatively
impacts your self-worth.
So how did you were you able toeven maintain your self-worth,
or what kind of got you overthat hump, or what did that look
like for you?
Miriam White (07:04):
So, with anything,
any rejection is just, you know
, especially if you have yourheart set on something, it, I
mean it is a devastating thing,but I can say that throughout
that it was always temporary forme, because I may have it may
have taken like a couple of daysto get over, but then at the
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end of the day it's like okay,so what's next?
You know, like, okay, my, my momgave me that time to sit and
soak and whatever.
But I mean, life goes on, youknow.
So it's always one of thosethings where what can I do now
to try to get over that?
Okay, this just wasn't meantfor me, type of thing.
So that's usually how I did itand, like I said, we would drive
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all the way out to Columbus andI would do an audition and
wouldn't get in and I would besitting there and I'll cry in a
car until, you know, my dad ormy mom buys me something at a
restaurant, or like ice cream orsomething.
I'm like, oh, you know, my dador my mom buys me something at a
restaurant, or like ice creamor something.
I'm like oh, you know, nosprinkles, because sprinkles are
for winners.
But you know, but I got my icecream, so yeah.
Barbara L Parker (08:10):
So one of the
things you know, being in
modeling, you have to be acertain weight, certain shape.
And you know we hear thestories about models eating
toilet paper, not eating at allthose kinds of things.
So how were you able to manageyour healthy weight?
And or, you know, how was itwhen you saw other people
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dealing with anorexia or bulimia, or did you even deal with some
of those things?
Miriam White (08:37):
so, in all honesty
, this is, I was blessed and
unblessed at the same time.
So, growing up, I was alwaysthe thin one in the family, so,
no matter how much I ate, it was, you know, up until I was
probably about 25 years old, Ithink I wore a double zero, so I
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was always naturally small, soI did not have those issues.
My issue was the height.
It was always the height.
I had to fight for anythingthat I wanted because it was
like I had to prove myself, soit was always about camera
angles and all type of stuff.
Now, like I said, my cousin, mymy older she's, you know, my
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cousin wants removed.
Um, so her, on the other hand,she did have to deal with a lot
of stuff because, like I said,she was a New York model.
Um, she did not even want me toget into, uh, modeling,
modeling, honestly, because ofthe standard.
So she was the one that wascarrots and celery and Coke
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carrots, celery, coke, you know,cocaine or Coca-Cola?
No, cocaine.
And that was a lot of themodels.
That is how they maintain.
Their weight was doing thecocaine.
So their weight was doing thethe cocaine.
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So, and that was one thing thatI did not have to get into.
Yes, I did have friends thatwere not on the smaller side and
, yes, that is how they maintaintheir smaller weight.
Was, you know, the cocaine?
It, you know, curved yourappetite, it kept you up.
You could go all night, you can, you know.
So, um it, it kept you at asmall weight and then, you know,
eventually they get into theirrehab thing and then they like
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blow up to you know, however itwas, but yeah, that's, that's
usually what it was.
It was celery sticks, carrotsand cocaine.
Barbara L Parker (10:38):
Yeah, so you
mentioned camera angles.
Now you know we live in thisworld of being a selfie queen
and a million filters Correct.
So what angles or tips andtricks can you share with us to
help us with yelling thoseamazing selfies, so we can feel
more confident behind the camera?
Miriam White (10:59):
feeling more
confident.
Honestly, I feel like to nailthe perfect picture, you have to
be confident in yourself, youhave to um, you have to accept
the way that you look.
And then, once you accept theway that you look and you feel
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about yourself that, no matterwhat, you're confident, then
you'll be able to find thoseangles yourself, whether it's,
you know, like up, high, down,low.
You know, cause, sometimes,like I said, if you, if you're
at a lower angle, a lot of timesyou look taller.
You know, at a higher angle youlook shorter but you might look
slimmer or something like that.
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I feel like, in order to bebeautiful, my thing is, before
you use a filter, I would say toreally figure out how makeup
works and shadows, really figureout how makeup works and
shadows.
You can turn a big nose into asmaller nose.
You know a chin that hangs down.
You can, you know, make it looklike it's just, you know,
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smooth, and you have, like, theperfect jawline.
You can do a lot of that stuffwith makeup, versus trying to
get, you know, filter yourselfto the point where you're
unrecognizable.
Barbara L Parker (12:17):
Yeah, the
other month, I was with some
friends and we were looking atsomeone's Instagram feed and we
noticed that this was not thesame person.
Exactly, it was a AI generatedversion of that person, and this
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person is very voluptuous,right.
There was no way that she wasthe same person we were just
like well, let's check the dateon these.
Exactly Like come on now.
This is not you at all.
Miriam White (12:47):
That's beyond
catfishing.
That is beyond catfishing.
So, miriam, my question is thisthat is beyond cap.
Barbara L Parker (12:52):
So, miriam, my
question is this With all of
that being said, with the angles, with the things that you can
do, with the enhancements, withmakeup and even AI Right, what
would your advice be to youngladies?
Miriam White (13:12):
who want to expire
.
Expire to go in your path ofmodeling.
That's a that's a good one.
Um, the thing is that modelinghas changed so much that it's
not even a height thing anymore.
Um, you can be a social mediamodel nowadays.
I would say, um, always makesure that, no matter what you do
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, no matter what career whetherit's modeling or anything like
that that, regardless of whatyou go into, that you do it with
integrity and good intentions.
So if you're okay with showingyour body nude and for money and
everything like that, thenthat's fine.
Stand on that.
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So, like, if you become aSenator one day, be like yeah, I
did it.
You know, that was my wholething.
It's a lot of people do itstrictly for the monetary side
of it and they don't think about.
You know, no matter what you do, it has a consequence, good or
bad.
So if you're strictly goinginto modeling and saying you
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know, oh, it gets me money or itgets me to the rappers and the
basketball players, the ballersand everything like that, then
you know, eventually it's notgoing to turn out good for you.
So you know, do it for yourselfand the money is slow when you
do it that way, but it does comeand you do get those
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opportunities and you get themUm you.
You have a better quality ofopportunities that come around
versus, you know, basicallybeing a glorified call girl and
then making your image as amodel on social media.
I guess you can say is how mostof the social media models are
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like they're really doing otherstuff.
Barbara L Parker (15:05):
Yes, and
getting paid for it yeah, so,
yeah, yes.
So what I'm hearing is allmoney isn't good money and
generally, the fast money reallyisn't a good money.
Miriam White (15:17):
The fast money, it
might be fast, the gifts might
be good, you know.
But you know, at the end of theday, if you're not making good
choices with the money, thatyou're making good choices with
the money, that you're making,the gifts that you get, if
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you're selling your soul forthose gifts, it's never going to
be a good turnout.
It's just, it's just not.
Barbara L Parker (15:42):
So thank you
for coming and sharing your
wisdom about your journey frombeing a child model to being an
adult model and some of thosestruggles.
We learned today that celery,cocaine and carrots is not
always the best choice to live ahealthy lifestyle.
But making sure you have goodboundaries, good self-esteem and
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a good support system that cancontinually support you, will be
very protective when you'regoing into the modeling world,
exactly.
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