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May 11, 2025 48 mins

Reacting to Vaishnava guru Chris Butler (aka Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa). He is a former member of ISKCON (during the lifetime of Swami Prabhupada) who started his own group of Krishna devotees in Hawaii, today called the Science of Identity Foundation, and said to be Krishna or "akin to god" by ex-devotees. He is famous for his negative teachings of Muslims, LGBTQ, and being Tulsi Gabbard's former spiritual guru. This video is not about Tulsi, her family, her recent nomination as Director of National Intelligence, nor the cult accusations surrounding Jagad Guru, but just looking at what he says in the moment (which is my approach to all guru reaction videos). Live 5.10.2025.

Science of Identity Foundation Official website: https://www.scienceofidentityfoundation.net/
Official youtube channels: https://www.youtube.com/@ScienceofIdentityFoundation & https://www.youtube.com/@JagadguruchrisbutlerNetzine
A website of his writings: https://siddhaswarupananda.com/biography-jagad-guru-chris-butler

Criticism of Tulsi's involvement: https://www.civilbeat.org/2024/12/senators-urged-to-examine-gabbards-deep-and-intense-ties-to-hawaii-sect/
Negative description of Chris' background: https://prem-rawat-bio.org/nrms/gurus/chris_buttler.htm

0:00 – Intro to reaction videos on gurus
4:45 – Reaction to talk 1: questionable gurus often make sense & we ignore the controversial things, fooling ourselves
10:19 – Reaction to talk 1 con't: not the mind, outside the mind, controlling the mind
20:12 – Reaction to talk 2: matter as energy | failing to get to discussion point | lack of spirituality for science | definition of life & death from a materialistic view, science is wrong
37:09 – Reaction to talk 3: existence & reality
42:59 – Concluding thoughts

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