November 14, 2024 • 34 mins
Matt takes a solo flight in this episode as he highlights the sires of this year's sale bulls and then gives an overview of the Dalebanks Practical. Profitable. Genetics. breeding philosophy.
52nd Annual Bull Sale
November 23, 2024
NW of Eureka, KS
mattperrier@dalebanks.com
www.dalebanks.com
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Microphone (Yeti Stereo (00:07):
Thanks for joining us for practically
ranching brought to you byDalebanks Angus.
We're counting the days to ourannual bull sale.
November 23rd, 2024.
We'll hold it at 12:30 PM.
Northwest of Eureka, Kansas.
We'll sell about 150 yearlingand coming two year old bulls.
And we would love to have youeither here at the ranch.
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Or online@cci.live.
This episode is not onlysponsored by Dalebanks Angus, it
is all Dalebanks Angus all thetime.
I did a bull sale previewsimilar to this last year.
And admittedly, it felt prettyself-serving it's time.
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But I had lots of good feedback.
And so guess what?
I'm doing it again.
Some of you were even braveenough to say that you wished I
had gone a little more in depthabout why I choose some of these
sires and our breeding program.
And so, um, This years may eventurn into a longer version.
So...
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you're welcome.
Or I'm sorry.
Whichever may be the case.
First I'm going to go throughthe sires that will have the
most bulls in this year's sale.
And then after that, I'lloutline a little of our breeding
philosophy and what goes intoproducing these bulls each year
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at Dalebanks Angus.
So, um, thank you for a.
Tuning in again, and I hope youenjoy it.
Starting with the sires of thisyear's sale bulls and no
particular order.
Um, but I'm going to start withthe bull called H F safe and
sound.
He is actually the sire of ourfirst three lead off bulls and
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the older division.
And then we'll have several morethroughout the sale in both age
divisions.
This was a bull that we actuallytried to buy several years ago
as a yearling from the Hiltonfarms sale when he sold.
We didn't get it done.
Uh, we were going to get him asa cleanup bull to use here, and
I liked a lot of things aboutthe bull and I just didn't have
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enough.
Uh, didn't have enough.
Powder in the gun to Gettingpurchased.
Uh, but we've used him AI eversince.
In fact, we were some of thefirst ones to use the safe and
sound bull.
We've bred heifers and cows, butprimarily used him as a calving
ease bull.
And, and he's just, he's a rockstar for that top 2% for his
calving ease, direct DPD.
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Um, they're shaped, right.
They're made right.
They are not tiny calves.
They still come out with plentyof vigor and hit the ground
running, but he's worked reallywell as a Kevin he's sire.
He, if I had to sum the safe andsound cattle up, they are just
all around range.
Ready cattle.
They're easy fleshing.
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They're deep sided.
They're good, structured, freemoving cattle that just have a
ton of, uh, fleshing ability andfunction and hardiness to them.
From an EPD trait standpoint, asI mentioned, he is, is in the
stratosphere in terms ofcalving, ease, direct, and yet
still is in the top third forweaning and yearling EPD.
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Um, he's right at zero foryearling height, uh, which puts
him in the, uh, smallest 10% ofthe breed, for yearling height.
But they put kind of a pounds inthe right package.
So he will moderate frame size,I would say in most operations.
and still carries that into hismature weight and height EPDs
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that are in the smaller 10 to15% as well.
He is in the upper quartile ofthe breed for marbling.
Uh, 0.85 is where the Seiler.
We're HS safe and sound is todayfor marbling.
And yet he's also in the best25% for dollar energy.
And you don't see that veryoften.
So folks who are trying to findthose.
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lower maintenance type femalesto keep into the herd and yet
still not have to give up allthe marbling, the bull fits
really well for that.
He's in the top 10% for hisdollar maternal.
And because of all these tradescombined is in the top 10% for
dollar combined, too.
And so that's why we've usedsafe and sound.
That's why we tried to buy himearlier.
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And that's why we continue touse him as he just hits on so
many areas and keeps things inbalanced.
So well, not a rockstar.
Star in any one trait.
And I say that about a lot ofthe bulls we use, but he's a
bull that, um, he just addsfunctional longevity and he adds
sustained profitability to a cowherd in my opinion.
The next bull will hit on'em.
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Is to Haim a patriarch.
He'll be the sire.
I think of probably the mostbulls we have about 30 yearling
and coming two year old bullsthat'll be sired by patriarch.
And, um, this is a bull thatwe've used for three or four
years.
Um, we're starting to wind downon using him simply because
we've got so many daughters,we've got so many customers
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who've bought patriarch sensalready and are now getting
daughters of those bulls, buthe's another calving ease bull
that's just worked in a varietyof roles wherever we've used him
over the past several years.
we've used several bulls fromour friends, the Borror family
Tehama Angus out in NorthernCalifornia through the years.
And they're always verypredictable.
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They're always very consistent.
They always follow those ePDsabout as well as we can expect.
And, and patriarch has certainlybeen no exception.
Again, calving sire 13 forcalving ease direct up to 134
pounds, a yearling weight in thetop 20%.
Um, his daughters I think, aregoing to be a strong suit.
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They've bred.
Well, very well here.
Um, his heifer pregnancy is inthe top 5% of the breed at a
17.6.
And, um, I think we've seenthat, that here as well.
from a structure standpoint,feet, and an angle of his
pasterns he's in the upper 20 to30% of the breed for those
traits.
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And, um, uh, you know, his sire.
Niagara was, and really maternalgrand sire, Connealy Thunder
were both, talked about as footimprovers back before a lot of
people were even looking forfoot improvers.
And so I think his, his pedigreeis stacked with several
different bulls in there thatthat should help that, that foot
and leg soundness as well.
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he also offers a lot of endproduct merit, uh, 0.94 on
marbling 0.84 on ribeye, whichranks him in the top 20 to 25%
respectively.
And again, as you combine thisbalance of these traits, he's in
the top 15% of the breed fordollar maternal.
top 25% of the breed for dollarbeef value.
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And that puts them in the top15% just shy with$300 combined
value.
And so these patriarchs, again,they've met with a lot of
customer acceptance.
Um, The other thing thatpatriarch progeny have done.
I mentioned that the daughtershave been very fertile and bred
really well here.
the bulls have excellentfertility as well.
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And you know, this is somethingthat we, we have a difficult
time of measuring just how manycows a bull actually gets bred
in the pasture because we allknow that it takes two to tango
and it could be the daughters,or it could be the, the cow or
the heifers fault.
It could be the bull's fault,but, You know, by and large,
we've gotten good reports aboutbreed ups on patriarch sons out
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there in commercial pastures.
And as we run bulls through thebreeding soundness exam shoot,
and our vet doesn't see siretags doesn't know who the sires
would be, but just anecdotally,some of the observations that
I've had is as I will hear fromthe vet, as they step up to the
microscope and say, man, thisbull is really good, or this
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bull's a rockstar or whateverthe case may be.
Quite often, it's, it's going tobe a patriarch son.
And so I think the semen,motility and quality hopefully
will transmit into getting a lotof females bred out there in the
pasture.
So another, another good, allaround type of bull that has
worked very, very well in ourprogram.
Yon top cut will be the nextbill that we talk about, uh,
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will sell just shy of 25 bullsin both age divisions again that
are sired by top.
Cut.
Um, Kevin and Lydia Yon out inSouth Carolina, bred the bull
and again, good friends of oursand a tremendous breeding
program out there.
And, and we've used.
We've used a couple of Yon siresthrough the years.
Uh, we've used top cut veryheavily and we're going to be
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using a maternal brother to himcalled Yon Saluda in the coming
years.
And so, um, and again, just areally good program that, that
is cranking out a line of cattlein these, uh, In the sons of
there.
Sarah D 668 cow that, um, thatdo a lot of things really well.
Top cuts, um, is really unique.
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Quite often when we see bullsthat are off the charts on
marbling and he sees a 1.6marbling EPD, top 2% of the
breed.
Um, he's a very lean scanningbull, his progeny are some of
the leanest at yearling timewhen we ultrasound those.
And I believe they have somecarcass data, actual carcass
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data that would back this up,but they're also in the leanest,
1% of the breed for fat.
And when I see those two traitsin a sire, sometimes a red flag
goes off in my head that, oh myhere's a terminal cross Angus
bull or whatever we want todetermine that.
And they're going to be big andthey're gonna be hard and et
cetera, it said no breeding andeverything else.
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Then you turn around and look ata bull, like top cut.
And he's not.
They're moderate framed.
He is in a, let's see for hisyearling height, he's in the
smallest 20% of the breed foryearling height, height.
I would say that ours, at leasthere.
Have probably even been a littlemore moderate than that.
Uh, still in the, in the mostmoderate 20 to 25% for their
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mature Heights.
But it's heifer pregnancy EPDsand the top 10% of the breed.
And granted he's just had about79 daughters submitted to the
association with breeding data.
But that has held very well.
And we have seen as we've bredthe first group, a couple groups
of top cuts here.
They've bred up very well.
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And as they get out into thosepastures, They aren't super lean
cattle.
They've got some fleshingability and they've got some rib
depth and, and enough capacity,I think they're to, to work in a
range type of environment.
So, you know, Top Cut does somany things, so well, they're,
you know, top 15% for docility.
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His foot claw and angles arestill in the top 10 to 20%.
Um, here's one, that's a newerEPD that a lot of you probably
haven't started using yet.
But those in the Southeast areecstatic about the fact that the
American Angus association nowhas hair shed EPDs or H S is
what they will be in thecatalog.
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And this is a sires ability tomake progeny who are going to
shed early and shed off well.
And, and, um, top cut is arockstar for this.
Uh, top 1% of the breed andwe've seen it here.
Uh, they are early sheddingcattle, slick haired.
so that's just one more in thelong lines of pluses uh, that
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we've got to these top cutcattle.
You know, phenotypically they'renice cattle.
They're not going to come at youwith this stoutness that some of
these really big bone, big,high, super high octane cattle
may have.
But man, when you put togetherthings like he puts together a
dollar maternal and the top 1%with$109 am, um,$173.
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Beef up to a$333 combined, whichranks in the top 3% of the
breed.
There's just so much good inthese cattle, and I think you're
going to really appreciate boththe number profile, but the
moderation of frame and, andjust, um, um, Kind of balance
of, of numbers that you get withthese top cut sons.
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And, and again, we'll have thosein both the, both coming two
year olds and the yearlingdivision, most of those will be
calving, ease bulls.
A lot of them will be out ofheifers first calf heifers, but
some will be out of cows aswell.
So, excited, um, to continue tohave those top cut progeny.
Uh, that offer so many thingsfor our customers.
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In this sale and in future ones.
Next I'm going to cover a bullthat this is going to be one of
the last groups that we've had.
Conneely cool.
A lot of you have, have lovedthese cool sens throughout the
years, especially if, if you'relooking for.
Just kind of a deep sided,easier fleshing type of
phenotype.
Uh, these cool bulls have, havereally resonated and really
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worked for a lot of ourcustomers.
similar to safe and sound.
He's not necessarily a standoutin any one trait.
Uh, but they're fertile cattle.
Uh, they come lighter thanaverage at birth.
They hit the ground running.
They're very quiet,dispositioned, cattle.
It's it's one of the best bullsthat I've probably used in my
lifetime to quiet a set ofcattle down, if you need to,
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he's a top 1% for his docilityPD at a 35.
excellent dollar maternalcattle.
He's in the top 10%, a goodheifer pregnancy in the top 15%
big scrotal cattle.
He just does a lot of thingsreally well.
And a lot of you have alreadyused cool sons, but we do have a
few more in this year's sale.
And as, as we, uh, as we finishout his probably four year term
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that we've been using him herein, in, uh, in our herd.
And he's, he's done everything.
We've asked him to.
Another bull that we've usedbefore.
And we'll see a, these will besome of the last ones that we
have out of, or by deer valleygrowth fund.
Um, kind of the opposite of whatsome of the bulls that I was
talking about.
Moderating growth back deervalley growth fund will add
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growth.
He'll add substance.
He'll add bone.
He'll add a look.
Um, man, those are just superpowerful cattle and nearly
everybody that walks into a penthat's got some growth funds,
sons.
There I is naturally going to bedrawn toward the growth fund
sons.
Um, top 2% weaning weight EPD,top 1% of a yearling weight of
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the breed.
At a 92 and a 1 68 yearlingweight, respectively.
Um, he's, that's his specialtyand he does it very, very well.
he will add some frame and hewill add some mature size to
those daughters.
Uh, but he also ads pounds andadds growth and adds a look and,
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and, um, consequently, you know,using the top 1% for the dollar
weaning, top 3% for dollar feedlot, so.
If you're selling pounds.
If you are even using a bull tomaybe even sell heifers and
steers and you want the mostpounds you can get a growth fund
is, is a very good option.
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And, um, those bulls and we'vewe've matched growth fund up on
higher marbling and, you know, amore maternal type cattle that
are maybe a little easiershedding.
And that's worked really well.
And that's what we've attemptedto do, going forth as well.
So these will be some of thelast growth funds.
We do also have a son of growthfund that we used, and he will
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be the sire of about six oreight bulls in the yearling
division.
Uh, E&B rival 1 75.
Um, bred by our friends, theBenoits up in north central,
Kansas.
It has been a growth fund sonout of a canola confidence plus
daughter.
That, um, has a little moremarbling, EPD, a little more
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ribeye area.
So a little better in productmerit maybe than the growth fund
cattle.
Maybe not quite as stout and hisbig rib is what the growth funds
are, but that's an exciting ah,that's an exciting bull that we
started using.
We'll just have this group andmaybe a few more here coming up
of the rivals, but, um, does alot of the things that, uh, that
growth on didn't and that's thebeauty of genetics that we can
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that we can blend those togetheruh, some newer sires that we
have used, and these will be inthe fall yearling little
division.
Um, the first bull in law, 72 ofthe yearlings will be a son of
Baldrige Gibson.
Gibson's a confidence plus sonout of a Prophet cow that goes
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back to a really famous cow inthe Angus breed Baldrige, Isabel
Y 69.
just a cool look to thosecattle.
Great from the profile reallyputs a lot of flash, you know, a
longer neck and, and just.
Really stylish from the side andlot 72, as you look at that
picture, and as you watch hisvideo, I think you'll see that.
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Um, it puts quite a bit ofgrowth into those progeny Gibson
himself is in the top 10% ofboth weaning and yearling way
DPDs and, um, he has also, Ithink, kind of straightened up
some of those softer pasturedcattle, maybe put a little
deeper heel into some of themand his, his claw and angle ePDs
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we'll back that up as we look atthem in the top 3% and 2%
respectively for claw and angleEPD.
the Gibsons are, are just reallyeye appealing cattle.
And, um, this was an interestingstory on how he came into the
select sires study was a maturebull that, uh, they went out
looking for a bull that, thathad a little data.
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And it kind of proved himselfthe old fashioned way, and I
always, I always like, I'm asucker for the old school bulls
that do it that way.
And so we use him, this'll be,uh, well, I have a few more next
spring.
Uh, but we're, we're, uh, tryingsome new bulls and this was one
of them that we tried and reallyliked, really liked the way
those cattle looked from theside.
And, um, and I think that thosewill, those will find a lot of
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friends on sale day.
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Another new sire that will have sons of,
in this year's sale.
And some of the first sonshonestly, available in the
country have.
Are going to be by a bull calledConnealy commerce.
Again, like Connealy cool, bredup in the Sandhills in Nebraska,
by our good friends, theConnealy family.
And, um, we'll have about 10sons of commerce and actually
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we'll have quite a few more ofthese Commerce's as we go forth.
We've been using him a lot onour Virgin heifers, a few cows
uh, he's a Sunbeam son that, um,I think Connealys are really
excited about this bull as wellsaid that he puts a lot of rib
depth and, and make some nicefemales.
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You know, he has a really cool
pedigree for that.
He's got S.
You know, a tremendous spreadfrom is, you know, birth to two
a year laying in a specific likecalving ease he's in the top 5%
of the breed for calving direct.
The calves they're not supersmall, but they're shaped,
right, and I'm just, haven't hadany problem breeding him to
heifers.
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And then he turns around and isin the top 2% to 3% of the end
of the breed for weaning weight,yearling weight at 92 for
weaning and 160 for yearlingweight.
And so.
Cattle have got a lot of grow tothem.
They hit the ground running.
Um, it's, it's fun to look atcattle like that.
They still scan very well.
He's a 0.93 for marbling EPD,1.14 for ribeye area, APD.
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And again, you put all of thesestrengths together.
And he ends up in the top 10% ofthe breed for, for.
The dollar combined, uh, And sothat's a bull that, that you'll
see a lot of sons, coming in ourprogram over the next couple of
years.
And one that we're reallyexcited about.
Uh, the last bullet we'll touchon is to Tehama Testament.
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And again, similar to patriarcha he's a patriarch son bread in
the, uh, in the Borror programup there in Northern California.
And.
And man, I tell you what.
These bulls have an immenseamount of herd bull character.
I mean, if, if you walk into apan and see one striding out
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there and a lot of bone and alot of chest width and just this
masculine looking 12, 13 monthold bull, when the rest of them
are still kind of coming intotheir own look.
Uh, he's probably going to be aTestament.
They just have that herd bulllook and, and the daughters are
just gorgeous.
I talked to Bryce a couple,weeks ago at the American Angus
association meetings.
And.
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He is really high on theseTestament daughters.
And I think that that's going tobe his strong suit as well.
And, this is a, this is a bullthat just.
Uh, it's pretty cool to see.
Um, again, how genetics can kindof come together, patriarch son
out of a sitz wisdom, uh, backto final answer cow and again, a
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bull that's spread out prettywell.
And as EPDs still double-digitcalving ease and, in the upper
end or upper half, at least forgrowth and marbling and things
like that, actually he's a 1.2,two for marbling today.
And that's moved up a littlebit, I believe in top 10% of the
breed.
So, uh, Again, not huge cattle.
They are going to be the rightsize in my opinion, with a lot
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of rib shape and a lot of depthand still enough.
Uh, performance for a lot ofour, especially in maybe a
little lower input type of aprogram.
but one that I think just they,they're going to do a lot of
good for a lot of folks.
And if you haven't already beenusing patriarch and are looking
for kind of the next generation,uh, this may be an option for
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you as well.
There.
So that will hit most of thesires.
There's a few smaller siregroups that we just have a
couple in that I didn't get tomention, but a lot of those are
bulls you probably already knowa little bit about, or sons or
grandsons of some of the siresthat we just talked about.
You know, and I always have toremind myself and, and others
that I talk with that.
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The sire is only half theequation.
The cow side of that pedigree onthese bulls that we're selling
can not be discounted.
Um, you know, science tells usthat she's offering half the
genetics.
I think as we learn more aboutthings like fetal programming
and epigenetics and all thesethings that the smart folks are
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passing down to us.
I think we learn that maybeshe's even more than just half.
Um, and, and a lot of Cal menhave said that for years.
Horse horsemen the same way.
So some of these individualbulls that we sell next Saturday
maybe a little different thantheir sires typical outcome
because of what that dam gavethem.
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But as a whole, I think thiskind of synopsis will give you a
little bit of an idea of, ofwhat we've seen on average or in
general here in the Dalebanksprogram.
So I said I was going to dig alittle bit deeper on our
philosophy of cattle breeding.
And I don't know that this isanything monumental.
Um, but I, I do like to sharethis because it.
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Everybody has a little differentperspective on breeding cattle.
You know, breeding cattle todayhas gotten pretty complex and
there are plenty of discussionsabout whether that's good or bad
or whatever, and I'll leavethose for another day.
But honestly, it is a way biggerfeat to breed cattle today than
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it has probably ever been.
Um, our American Angusassociation publishes, I believe
it's 22 expected progenydifferences for different
traits.
We've got several EPDs that,that they're working on on a
research basis that'll probablybecome available in the next
year to two years.
Plus we got nine multi traitselection indices that take
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these EPD traits and run themthrough an economic index.
And we've got an even moreinclusive.
Um, Tool to select these cattle.
And then on top, all this paperand all these data points, we've
got tons of foundation traits,subjective traits, whatever we
want to call them that we selectfor within our herd to.
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Maintain a functional Cal base.
Then after we get all these datapoints, we've got a balancing
act of blending, pedigrees andcattle types to achieve.
Just the right amount of, ofoutcross and of complementarity
between these lines.
And yet enough consistency thatwe can have a set of bulls to
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offer to you or a set of femalesin our own herd that are,
they're going to breed true andbreed.
As their EPDs predict and is asconsistent as they can.
I don't bring all of this up tocomplain about how hard our job
is or to be braggadocious aboutwhat it is we're able to
accomplish.
It's it's just what we do here.
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We believe that if any of thesesteps aren't done.
The data analysis, theconsideration for, you know, The
maternal side and our managementand the pedigrees and everything
else.
If we leave out any of thosesteps, The end result is
probably going to be seed stockthat's not very valuable to our
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customer.
And so what we try to do withPractical.
Profitable.
Genetics.
Breeding philosophy is takesomething that's pretty complex
today.
And boil it down to simplerdecisions for you, for our
customers.
I read one time that AlbertEinstein said genius is making
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complex ideas, simple, notmaking simple ideas complex.
And we've all been there.
We've all sat in that room.
When somebody turns something into something a whole lot tougher
than what it is.
We're trying to do the exactopposite.
After years, decades ofdiscussion with you, our
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customers and colleagues in thebusiness.
We set thresholds for traitsthat you all tell us help
achieve sustained profit in yourherds.
Sometimes this may be a minimum,sometimes it may be a maximum.
Sometimes it may be an optimumrange in the middle.
And quite often, what we weredoing five and 10 years ago with
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the set of traits may have to beadjusted because the market has
adjusted or folks management hasadjusted or results of past
decisions that you all have madeon your cow herds.
Good or bad, may dictate thatyou do something slightly
different today than you didfive or 10 years ago.
So.
There are some of these traitsthat we put immense amounts of
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pressure on and others that weput a lot less, if any, on we
know there're correlations,genetic correlations, phenotypic
correlations between thesetraits.
We know there are someantagonisms to selecting one and
getting unintended consequencesof another.
And we had, we try to keep thosedynamics in mind as well as we
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make these decisions.
We do everything we can to lettoday's beef industry and the
context of how we manage andmarket cattle.
Be our guide as we select thesetraits.
And then, and this is probablythe most important part: we let
mother nature help us governthese decisions.
Um, with all these tools we haveat our disposal, her ability to
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tell us when we get a little farout of bounds is probably
something that's as important asanything.
Um, traits like reproductiveefficiency, fertility.
They're lowly heritable, whichmeans that they're greatly
affected by feed management andthe environment.
So that's why we try to handlethese cows in a similar, some
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would even say more conservativeway than what you our typical
commercial cow calf producerdoes.
Um, And when we do that mothernature usually lets us know when
we got out of bounds on a trait.
We ended up with an open heifer,a cow, and she goes to the sale
barn and we figure out that wemay have pushed the envelope a
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little too far.
And so we, we feel like mothernature-- as cruel as she can be
sometimes.
And as hard as it is on thepocket book or on our ego, To
sell those good ones that didn'tmake it because they weren't
able to.
Get bread or stay bread orwhatever the case may be.
We still believe that she is atremendous governor in this
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genetic selection process.
So after we've analyzed theindustry and our customer's
needs, we go to the AmericanAngus association website.
We use their sire evaluationsearch page, and we plug in
parameters that we feel like weneed in a sire, whether it's all
22 traits or.
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10 to 12 of them.
Uh, we make it wide enough thatwe get a fairly lengthy with
list of bulls.
And then, then we get on thephone or we get in the truck and
we ask a lot of questions of offolks who've used the bulls that
we're considering.
Sometimes if they bred the bullsand we know their program and we
know, their integrity and.
We know we can call them andthey'll tell us the good, bad
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and the ugly, but we, we doeverything we can to find out
what that first batch calves hasbeen like or what those siblings
have been like.
And, and, um, sometimes it'sabout.
Traits that aren't expressed inan EPD yet, and those are
probably sometimes the mostimportant parts that we can ask
about since we can't find thedate on that.
After all this, we try to end upwith the list of about five or
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six sires, each breeding seasonthat we'll use.
Sometimes I get weak and add aseventh, but.
We made these sires to theheifers and the cow herd, and we
try to match that siresstrengths.
To each of the cows or heifersweaknesses.
Um, I wish I could say that theydidn't have any weaknesses, but
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they all have something that wefeel like we can improve upon.
And, and it's not a fire and icemating.
But it is sure, a complementarymeat mating that we try to fix
whatever they need fixing.
Once we get those progeny.
Uh, we start to learn how sirehas worked in our cow herd.
Sometimes we realize that hedidn't fit.
Just because of our program orgenetics or environment.
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Other times we learned that hewas pretty good, but we may need
to match him with a differentset of females next year to
bring out those strengths andjust like most things we do
around here, and you all do atyour place.
The goal is to get a little bitbetter with every breeding
season, with every calf crop,incremental improvement.
Given the data and theinformation that's available and
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the observations that we canmake here at the ranch.
So.
That's it, that's it like.
I started with it.
It's nothing monumental.
It's nothing cutting edge.
As you can tell by our saletoppers or lack thereof
throughout the decades, our goalis not to produce that outlier
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that changes the breed everyyear.
It's to produce hundreds.
That offer foundation cowherdtraits, coupled with growth
levels and marbling and musclethat fit today's commercial
marketplace.
And just, like I said, Einsteinsaid earlier, the result seems
simple, but the process behindit is a little complex and
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that's, that's what we do.
That's our job.
It's what we've done for 120years now.
Admittedly.
Great-grandfather barrier wasnot likely online doing sire
sorts at 10 o'clock or midnight,but a.
It's what we have tried to do.
He used to say.
I let's see if I can rememberthis.
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"We strive to produce an animalwho profits his owner through
his production." That's amouthful, but whether it is on
his was on his place or somebodyelse's place that bought him.
He wanted them to profit thatowner through their production.
And that was his goal.
It still is.
It's what brought about thiswhole practical, profitable
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genetics that we talk about adnauseum these days.
So.
That's that's how the bulls thatwe're going to sell next
Saturday, the 23rd.
That's how they came to be, um,again, right or wrong.
That's our breeding philosophy.
That's our managementphilosophy.
And that's what we feel like,uh, fits best for our customers
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and the industry.
So, for the final time on thisyear's podcast, I'm going to
invite you once again to be withus in person or online for our
52nd annual bull sale.
Saturday, November 23rd.
We'll start at 1230 at the ranchNorthwest of Eureka, Kansas.
Sell about 70 coming, two yearold bulls and just over 80
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yearlings.
We'll walk the bulls through thesale ring.
Uh, plus we will also broadcastthe sale online@cci.live.
The catalog, searchable,catalog, flip catalog videos,
phenotypic data, or.
Gina typic data sheets,everything is available.
At dalebanks.com.
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And if you'd like a printedcatalog, uh, just shoot me your
mailing address to my email.
mattperrier@dalebanks.com and wewill get one to you in the mail
very quickly.
So again, thank you forlistening.
Thank you for putting up withthis week's host and guest.
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and I promise I won't do anymore of these solo flights until
next year about this time, but,uh, uh, it is always good to get
on here and visit with you.
I like it better when I havesomeone to visit back with me.
But, uh, again, thanks forlistening.
We're coming up on Thanksgivingand I do, I mean it, when I say
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it, thank you for listening tothis podcast.
I thank you.
And I thank God for all theblessings that He continues to
give us.
Have a great day.
Thanks for joining us for practically
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We're counting the days to ourannual bull sale.
November 23rd, 2024.
We'll hold it at 12:30 PM.
Northwest of Eureka, Kansas.
We'll sell about 150 yearlingand coming two year old bulls.
And we would love to have youeither here at the ranch.
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Or online@cci.live.
This episode is not onlysponsored by Dalebanks Angus, it
is all Dalebanks Angus all thetime.
I did a bull sale previewsimilar to this last year.
And admittedly, it felt prettyself-serving it's time.
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But I had lots of good feedback.
And so guess what?
I'm doing it again.
Some of you were even braveenough to say that you wished I
had gone a little more in depthabout why I choose some of these
sires and our breeding program.
And so, um, This years may eventurn into a longer version.
So...
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you're welcome.
Or I'm sorry.
Whichever may be the case.
First I'm going to go throughthe sires that will have the
most bulls in this year's sale.
And then after that, I'lloutline a little of our breeding
philosophy and what goes intoproducing these bulls each year
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at Dalebanks Angus.
So, um, thank you for a.
Tuning in again, and I hope youenjoy it.
Starting with the sires of thisyear's sale bulls and no
particular order.
Um, but I'm going to start withthe bull called H F safe and
sound.
He is actually the sire of ourfirst three lead off bulls and
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the older division.
And then we'll have several morethroughout the sale in both age
divisions.
This was a bull that we actuallytried to buy several years ago
as a yearling from the Hiltonfarms sale when he sold.
We didn't get it done.
Uh, we were going to get him asa cleanup bull to use here, and
I liked a lot of things aboutthe bull and I just didn't have
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enough.
Uh, didn't have enough.
Powder in the gun to Gettingpurchased.
Uh, but we've used him AI eversince.
In fact, we were some of thefirst ones to use the safe and
sound bull.
We've bred heifers and cows, butprimarily used him as a calving
ease bull.
And, and he's just, he's a rockstar for that top 2% for his
calving ease, direct DPD.
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Um, they're shaped, right.
They're made right.
They are not tiny calves.
They still come out with plentyof vigor and hit the ground
running, but he's worked reallywell as a Kevin he's sire.
He, if I had to sum the safe andsound cattle up, they are just
all around range.
Ready cattle.
They're easy fleshing.
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They're deep sided.
They're good, structured, freemoving cattle that just have a
ton of, uh, fleshing ability andfunction and hardiness to them.
From an EPD trait standpoint, asI mentioned, he is, is in the
stratosphere in terms ofcalving, ease, direct, and yet
still is in the top third forweaning and yearling EPD.
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Um, he's right at zero foryearling height, uh, which puts
him in the, uh, smallest 10% ofthe breed, for yearling height.
But they put kind of a pounds inthe right package.
So he will moderate frame size,I would say in most operations.
and still carries that into hismature weight and height EPDs
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that are in the smaller 10 to15% as well.
He is in the upper quartile ofthe breed for marbling.
Uh, 0.85 is where the Seiler.
We're HS safe and sound is todayfor marbling.
And yet he's also in the best25% for dollar energy.
And you don't see that veryoften.
So folks who are trying to findthose.
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lower maintenance type femalesto keep into the herd and yet
still not have to give up allthe marbling, the bull fits
really well for that.
He's in the top 10% for hisdollar maternal.
And because of all these tradescombined is in the top 10% for
dollar combined, too.
And so that's why we've usedsafe and sound.
That's why we tried to buy himearlier.
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And that's why we continue touse him as he just hits on so
many areas and keeps things inbalanced.
So well, not a rockstar.
Star in any one trait.
And I say that about a lot ofthe bulls we use, but he's a
bull that, um, he just addsfunctional longevity and he adds
sustained profitability to a cowherd in my opinion.
The next bull will hit on'em.
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Is to Haim a patriarch.
He'll be the sire.
I think of probably the mostbulls we have about 30 yearling
and coming two year old bullsthat'll be sired by patriarch.
And, um, this is a bull thatwe've used for three or four
years.
Um, we're starting to wind downon using him simply because
we've got so many daughters,we've got so many customers
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who've bought patriarch sensalready and are now getting
daughters of those bulls, buthe's another calving ease bull
that's just worked in a varietyof roles wherever we've used him
over the past several years.
we've used several bulls fromour friends, the Borror family
Tehama Angus out in NorthernCalifornia through the years.
And they're always verypredictable.
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They're always very consistent.
They always follow those ePDsabout as well as we can expect.
And, and patriarch has certainlybeen no exception.
Again, calving sire 13 forcalving ease direct up to 134
pounds, a yearling weight in thetop 20%.
Um, his daughters I think, aregoing to be a strong suit.
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They've bred.
Well, very well here.
Um, his heifer pregnancy is inthe top 5% of the breed at a
17.6.
And, um, I think we've seenthat, that here as well.
from a structure standpoint,feet, and an angle of his
pasterns he's in the upper 20 to30% of the breed for those
traits.
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And, um, uh, you know, his sire.
Niagara was, and really maternalgrand sire, Connealy Thunder
were both, talked about as footimprovers back before a lot of
people were even looking forfoot improvers.
And so I think his, his pedigreeis stacked with several
different bulls in there thatthat should help that, that foot
and leg soundness as well.
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he also offers a lot of endproduct merit, uh, 0.94 on
marbling 0.84 on ribeye, whichranks him in the top 20 to 25%
respectively.
And again, as you combine thisbalance of these traits, he's in
the top 15% of the breed fordollar maternal.
top 25% of the breed for dollarbeef value.
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And that puts them in the top15% just shy with$300 combined
value.
And so these patriarchs, again,they've met with a lot of
customer acceptance.
Um, The other thing thatpatriarch progeny have done.
I mentioned that the daughtershave been very fertile and bred
really well here.
the bulls have excellentfertility as well.
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And you know, this is somethingthat we, we have a difficult
time of measuring just how manycows a bull actually gets bred
in the pasture because we allknow that it takes two to tango
and it could be the daughters,or it could be the, the cow or
the heifers fault.
It could be the bull's fault,but, You know, by and large,
we've gotten good reports aboutbreed ups on patriarch sons out
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there in commercial pastures.
And as we run bulls through thebreeding soundness exam shoot,
and our vet doesn't see siretags doesn't know who the sires
would be, but just anecdotally,some of the observations that
I've had is as I will hear fromthe vet, as they step up to the
microscope and say, man, thisbull is really good, or this
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bull's a rockstar or whateverthe case may be.
Quite often, it's, it's going tobe a patriarch son.
And so I think the semen,motility and quality hopefully
will transmit into getting a lotof females bred out there in the
pasture.
So another, another good, allaround type of bull that has
worked very, very well in ourprogram.
Yon top cut will be the nextbill that we talk about, uh,
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will sell just shy of 25 bullsin both age divisions again that
are sired by top.
Cut.
Um, Kevin and Lydia Yon out inSouth Carolina, bred the bull
and again, good friends of oursand a tremendous breeding
program out there.
And, and we've used.
We've used a couple of Yon siresthrough the years.
Uh, we've used top cut veryheavily and we're going to be
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using a maternal brother to himcalled Yon Saluda in the coming
years.
And so, um, and again, just areally good program that, that
is cranking out a line of cattlein these, uh, In the sons of
there.
Sarah D 668 cow that, um, thatdo a lot of things really well.
Top cuts, um, is really unique.
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Quite often when we see bullsthat are off the charts on
marbling and he sees a 1.6marbling EPD, top 2% of the
breed.
Um, he's a very lean scanningbull, his progeny are some of
the leanest at yearling timewhen we ultrasound those.
And I believe they have somecarcass data, actual carcass
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data that would back this up,but they're also in the leanest,
1% of the breed for fat.
And when I see those two traitsin a sire, sometimes a red flag
goes off in my head that, oh myhere's a terminal cross Angus
bull or whatever we want todetermine that.
And they're going to be big andthey're gonna be hard and et
cetera, it said no breeding andeverything else.
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Then you turn around and look ata bull, like top cut.
And he's not.
They're moderate framed.
He is in a, let's see for hisyearling height, he's in the
smallest 20% of the breed foryearling height, height.
I would say that ours, at leasthere.
Have probably even been a littlemore moderate than that.
Uh, still in the, in the mostmoderate 20 to 25% for their
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mature Heights.
But it's heifer pregnancy EPDsand the top 10% of the breed.
And granted he's just had about79 daughters submitted to the
association with breeding data.
But that has held very well.
And we have seen as we've bredthe first group, a couple groups
of top cuts here.
They've bred up very well.
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And as they get out into thosepastures, They aren't super lean
cattle.
They've got some fleshingability and they've got some rib
depth and, and enough capacity,I think they're to, to work in a
range type of environment.
So, you know, Top Cut does somany things, so well, they're,
you know, top 15% for docility.
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His foot claw and angles arestill in the top 10 to 20%.
Um, here's one, that's a newerEPD that a lot of you probably
haven't started using yet.
But those in the Southeast areecstatic about the fact that the
American Angus association nowhas hair shed EPDs or H S is
what they will be in thecatalog.
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And this is a sires ability tomake progeny who are going to
shed early and shed off well.
And, and, um, top cut is arockstar for this.
Uh, top 1% of the breed andwe've seen it here.
Uh, they are early sheddingcattle, slick haired.
so that's just one more in thelong lines of pluses uh, that
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we've got to these top cutcattle.
You know, phenotypically they'renice cattle.
They're not going to come at youwith this stoutness that some of
these really big bone, big,high, super high octane cattle
may have.
But man, when you put togetherthings like he puts together a
dollar maternal and the top 1%with$109 am, um,$173.
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Beef up to a$333 combined, whichranks in the top 3% of the
breed.
There's just so much good inthese cattle, and I think you're
going to really appreciate boththe number profile, but the
moderation of frame and, andjust, um, um, Kind of balance
of, of numbers that you get withthese top cut sons.
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And, and again, we'll have thosein both the, both coming two
year olds and the yearlingdivision, most of those will be
calving, ease bulls.
A lot of them will be out ofheifers first calf heifers, but
some will be out of cows aswell.
So, excited, um, to continue tohave those top cut progeny.
Uh, that offer so many thingsfor our customers.
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In this sale and in future ones.
Next I'm going to cover a bullthat this is going to be one of
the last groups that we've had.
Conneely cool.
A lot of you have, have lovedthese cool sens throughout the
years, especially if, if you'relooking for.
Just kind of a deep sided,easier fleshing type of
phenotype.
Uh, these cool bulls have, havereally resonated and really
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worked for a lot of ourcustomers.
similar to safe and sound.
He's not necessarily a standoutin any one trait.
Uh, but they're fertile cattle.
Uh, they come lighter thanaverage at birth.
They hit the ground running.
They're very quiet,dispositioned, cattle.
It's it's one of the best bullsthat I've probably used in my
lifetime to quiet a set ofcattle down, if you need to,
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he's a top 1% for his docilityPD at a 35.
excellent dollar maternalcattle.
He's in the top 10%, a goodheifer pregnancy in the top 15%
big scrotal cattle.
He just does a lot of thingsreally well.
And a lot of you have alreadyused cool sons, but we do have a
few more in this year's sale.
And as, as we, uh, as we finishout his probably four year term
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that we've been using him herein, in, uh, in our herd.
And he's, he's done everything.
We've asked him to.
Another bull that we've usedbefore.
And we'll see a, these will besome of the last ones that we
have out of, or by deer valleygrowth fund.
Um, kind of the opposite of whatsome of the bulls that I was
talking about.
Moderating growth back deervalley growth fund will add
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growth.
He'll add substance.
He'll add bone.
He'll add a look.
Um, man, those are just superpowerful cattle and nearly
everybody that walks into a penthat's got some growth funds,
sons.
There I is naturally going to bedrawn toward the growth fund
sons.
Um, top 2% weaning weight EPD,top 1% of a yearling weight of
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the breed.
At a 92 and a 1 68 yearlingweight, respectively.
Um, he's, that's his specialtyand he does it very, very well.
he will add some frame and hewill add some mature size to
those daughters.
Uh, but he also ads pounds andadds growth and adds a look and,
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and, um, consequently, you know,using the top 1% for the dollar
weaning, top 3% for dollar feedlot, so.
If you're selling pounds.
If you are even using a bull tomaybe even sell heifers and
steers and you want the mostpounds you can get a growth fund
is, is a very good option.
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And, um, those bulls and we'vewe've matched growth fund up on
higher marbling and, you know, amore maternal type cattle that
are maybe a little easiershedding.
And that's worked really well.
And that's what we've attemptedto do, going forth as well.
So these will be some of thelast growth funds.
We do also have a son of growthfund that we used, and he will
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be the sire of about six oreight bulls in the yearling
division.
Uh, E&B rival 1 75.
Um, bred by our friends, theBenoits up in north central,
Kansas.
It has been a growth fund sonout of a canola confidence plus
daughter.
That, um, has a little moremarbling, EPD, a little more
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ribeye area.
So a little better in productmerit maybe than the growth fund
cattle.
Maybe not quite as stout and hisbig rib is what the growth funds
are, but that's an exciting ah,that's an exciting bull that we
started using.
We'll just have this group andmaybe a few more here coming up
of the rivals, but, um, does alot of the things that, uh, that
growth on didn't and that's thebeauty of genetics that we can
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that we can blend those togetheruh, some newer sires that we
have used, and these will be inthe fall yearling little
division.
Um, the first bull in law, 72 ofthe yearlings will be a son of
Baldrige Gibson.
Gibson's a confidence plus sonout of a Prophet cow that goes
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back to a really famous cow inthe Angus breed Baldrige, Isabel
Y 69.
just a cool look to thosecattle.
Great from the profile reallyputs a lot of flash, you know, a
longer neck and, and just.
Really stylish from the side andlot 72, as you look at that
picture, and as you watch hisvideo, I think you'll see that.
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Um, it puts quite a bit ofgrowth into those progeny Gibson
himself is in the top 10% ofboth weaning and yearling way
DPDs and, um, he has also, Ithink, kind of straightened up
some of those softer pasturedcattle, maybe put a little
deeper heel into some of themand his, his claw and angle ePDs
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we'll back that up as we look atthem in the top 3% and 2%
respectively for claw and angleEPD.
the Gibsons are, are just reallyeye appealing cattle.
And, um, this was an interestingstory on how he came into the
select sires study was a maturebull that, uh, they went out
looking for a bull that, thathad a little data.
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And it kind of proved himselfthe old fashioned way, and I
always, I always like, I'm asucker for the old school bulls
that do it that way.
And so we use him, this'll be,uh, well, I have a few more next
spring.
Uh, but we're, we're, uh, tryingsome new bulls and this was one
of them that we tried and reallyliked, really liked the way
those cattle looked from theside.
And, um, and I think that thosewill, those will find a lot of
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friends on sale day.
Microphone (Yeti Stereo (18:04):
Another new sire that will have sons of,
in this year's sale.
And some of the first sonshonestly, available in the
country have.
Are going to be by a bull calledConnealy commerce.
Again, like Connealy cool, bredup in the Sandhills in Nebraska,
by our good friends, theConnealy family.
And, um, we'll have about 10sons of commerce and actually
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we'll have quite a few more ofthese Commerce's as we go forth.
We've been using him a lot onour Virgin heifers, a few cows
uh, he's a Sunbeam son that, um,I think Connealys are really
excited about this bull as wellsaid that he puts a lot of rib
depth and, and make some nicefemales.
Microphone (Yeti Stereo Mic (18:46):
You know, he has a really cool
pedigree for that.
He's got S.
You know, a tremendous spreadfrom is, you know, birth to two
a year laying in a specific likecalving ease he's in the top 5%
of the breed for calving direct.
The calves they're not supersmall, but they're shaped,
right, and I'm just, haven't hadany problem breeding him to
heifers.
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And then he turns around and isin the top 2% to 3% of the end
of the breed for weaning weight,yearling weight at 92 for
weaning and 160 for yearlingweight.
And so.
Cattle have got a lot of grow tothem.
They hit the ground running.
Um, it's, it's fun to look atcattle like that.
They still scan very well.
He's a 0.93 for marbling EPD,1.14 for ribeye area, APD.
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And again, you put all of thesestrengths together.
And he ends up in the top 10% ofthe breed for, for.
The dollar combined, uh, And sothat's a bull that, that you'll
see a lot of sons, coming in ourprogram over the next couple of
years.
And one that we're reallyexcited about.
Uh, the last bullet we'll touchon is to Tehama Testament.
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And again, similar to patriarcha he's a patriarch son bread in
the, uh, in the Borror programup there in Northern California.
And.
And man, I tell you what.
These bulls have an immenseamount of herd bull character.
I mean, if, if you walk into apan and see one striding out
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there and a lot of bone and alot of chest width and just this
masculine looking 12, 13 monthold bull, when the rest of them
are still kind of coming intotheir own look.
Uh, he's probably going to be aTestament.
They just have that herd bulllook and, and the daughters are
just gorgeous.
I talked to Bryce a couple,weeks ago at the American Angus
association meetings.
And.
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He is really high on theseTestament daughters.
And I think that that's going tobe his strong suit as well.
And, this is a, this is a bullthat just.
Uh, it's pretty cool to see.
Um, again, how genetics can kindof come together, patriarch son
out of a sitz wisdom, uh, backto final answer cow and again, a
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bull that's spread out prettywell.
And as EPDs still double-digitcalving ease and, in the upper
end or upper half, at least forgrowth and marbling and things
like that, actually he's a 1.2,two for marbling today.
And that's moved up a littlebit, I believe in top 10% of the
breed.
So, uh, Again, not huge cattle.
They are going to be the rightsize in my opinion, with a lot
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of rib shape and a lot of depthand still enough.
Uh, performance for a lot ofour, especially in maybe a
little lower input type of aprogram.
but one that I think just they,they're going to do a lot of
good for a lot of folks.
And if you haven't already beenusing patriarch and are looking
for kind of the next generation,uh, this may be an option for
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you as well.
There.
So that will hit most of thesires.
There's a few smaller siregroups that we just have a
couple in that I didn't get tomention, but a lot of those are
bulls you probably already knowa little bit about, or sons or
grandsons of some of the siresthat we just talked about.
You know, and I always have toremind myself and, and others
that I talk with that.
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The sire is only half theequation.
The cow side of that pedigree onthese bulls that we're selling
can not be discounted.
Um, you know, science tells usthat she's offering half the
genetics.
I think as we learn more aboutthings like fetal programming
and epigenetics and all thesethings that the smart folks are
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passing down to us.
I think we learn that maybeshe's even more than just half.
Um, and, and a lot of Cal menhave said that for years.
Horse horsemen the same way.
So some of these individualbulls that we sell next Saturday
maybe a little different thantheir sires typical outcome
because of what that dam gavethem.
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But as a whole, I think thiskind of synopsis will give you a
little bit of an idea of, ofwhat we've seen on average or in
general here in the Dalebanksprogram.
So I said I was going to dig alittle bit deeper on our
philosophy of cattle breeding.
And I don't know that this isanything monumental.
Um, but I, I do like to sharethis because it.
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Everybody has a little differentperspective on breeding cattle.
You know, breeding cattle todayhas gotten pretty complex and
there are plenty of discussionsabout whether that's good or bad
or whatever, and I'll leavethose for another day.
But honestly, it is a way biggerfeat to breed cattle today than
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it has probably ever been.
Um, our American Angusassociation publishes, I believe
it's 22 expected progenydifferences for different
traits.
We've got several EPDs that,that they're working on on a
research basis that'll probablybecome available in the next
year to two years.
Plus we got nine multi traitselection indices that take
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these EPD traits and run themthrough an economic index.
And we've got an even moreinclusive.
Um, Tool to select these cattle.
And then on top, all this paperand all these data points, we've
got tons of foundation traits,subjective traits, whatever we
want to call them that we selectfor within our herd to.
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Maintain a functional Cal base.
Then after we get all these datapoints, we've got a balancing
act of blending, pedigrees andcattle types to achieve.
Just the right amount of, ofoutcross and of complementarity
between these lines.
And yet enough consistency thatwe can have a set of bulls to
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offer to you or a set of femalesin our own herd that are,
they're going to breed true andbreed.
As their EPDs predict and is asconsistent as they can.
I don't bring all of this up tocomplain about how hard our job
is or to be braggadocious aboutwhat it is we're able to
accomplish.
It's it's just what we do here.
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We believe that if any of thesesteps aren't done.
The data analysis, theconsideration for, you know, The
maternal side and our managementand the pedigrees and everything
else.
If we leave out any of thosesteps, The end result is
probably going to be seed stockthat's not very valuable to our
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customer.
And so what we try to do withPractical.
Profitable.
Genetics.
Breeding philosophy is takesomething that's pretty complex
today.
And boil it down to simplerdecisions for you, for our
customers.
I read one time that AlbertEinstein said genius is making
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complex ideas, simple, notmaking simple ideas complex.
And we've all been there.
We've all sat in that room.
When somebody turns something into something a whole lot tougher
than what it is.
We're trying to do the exactopposite.
After years, decades ofdiscussion with you, our
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customers and colleagues in thebusiness.
We set thresholds for traitsthat you all tell us help
achieve sustained profit in yourherds.
Sometimes this may be a minimum,sometimes it may be a maximum.
Sometimes it may be an optimumrange in the middle.
And quite often, what we weredoing five and 10 years ago with
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the set of traits may have to beadjusted because the market has
adjusted or folks management hasadjusted or results of past
decisions that you all have madeon your cow herds.
Good or bad, may dictate thatyou do something slightly
different today than you didfive or 10 years ago.
So.
There are some of these traitsthat we put immense amounts of
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pressure on and others that weput a lot less, if any, on we
know there're correlations,genetic correlations, phenotypic
correlations between thesetraits.
We know there are someantagonisms to selecting one and
getting unintended consequencesof another.
And we had, we try to keep thosedynamics in mind as well as we
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make these decisions.
We do everything we can to lettoday's beef industry and the
context of how we manage andmarket cattle.
Be our guide as we select thesetraits.
And then, and this is probablythe most important part: we let
mother nature help us governthese decisions.
Um, with all these tools we haveat our disposal, her ability to
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tell us when we get a little farout of bounds is probably
something that's as important asanything.
Um, traits like reproductiveefficiency, fertility.
They're lowly heritable, whichmeans that they're greatly
affected by feed management andthe environment.
So that's why we try to handlethese cows in a similar, some
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would even say more conservativeway than what you our typical
commercial cow calf producerdoes.
Um, And when we do that mothernature usually lets us know when
we got out of bounds on a trait.
We ended up with an open heifer,a cow, and she goes to the sale
barn and we figure out that wemay have pushed the envelope a
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little too far.
And so we, we feel like mothernature-- as cruel as she can be
sometimes.
And as hard as it is on thepocket book or on our ego, To
sell those good ones that didn'tmake it because they weren't
able to.
Get bread or stay bread orwhatever the case may be.
We still believe that she is atremendous governor in this
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genetic selection process.
So after we've analyzed theindustry and our customer's
needs, we go to the AmericanAngus association website.
We use their sire evaluationsearch page, and we plug in
parameters that we feel like weneed in a sire, whether it's all
22 traits or.
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10 to 12 of them.
Uh, we make it wide enough thatwe get a fairly lengthy with
list of bulls.
And then, then we get on thephone or we get in the truck and
we ask a lot of questions of offolks who've used the bulls that
we're considering.
Sometimes if they bred the bullsand we know their program and we
know, their integrity and.
We know we can call them andthey'll tell us the good, bad
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and the ugly, but we, we doeverything we can to find out
what that first batch calves hasbeen like or what those siblings
have been like.
And, and, um, sometimes it'sabout.
Traits that aren't expressed inan EPD yet, and those are
probably sometimes the mostimportant parts that we can ask
about since we can't find thedate on that.
After all this, we try to end upwith the list of about five or
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six sires, each breeding seasonthat we'll use.
Sometimes I get weak and add aseventh, but.
We made these sires to theheifers and the cow herd, and we
try to match that siresstrengths.
To each of the cows or heifersweaknesses.
Um, I wish I could say that theydidn't have any weaknesses, but
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they all have something that wefeel like we can improve upon.
And, and it's not a fire and icemating.
But it is sure, a complementarymeat mating that we try to fix
whatever they need fixing.
Once we get those progeny.
Uh, we start to learn how sirehas worked in our cow herd.
Sometimes we realize that hedidn't fit.
Just because of our program orgenetics or environment.
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Other times we learned that hewas pretty good, but we may need
to match him with a differentset of females next year to
bring out those strengths andjust like most things we do
around here, and you all do atyour place.
The goal is to get a little bitbetter with every breeding
season, with every calf crop,incremental improvement.
Given the data and theinformation that's available and
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the observations that we canmake here at the ranch.
So.
That's it, that's it like.
I started with it.
It's nothing monumental.
It's nothing cutting edge.
As you can tell by our saletoppers or lack thereof
throughout the decades, our goalis not to produce that outlier
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that changes the breed everyyear.
It's to produce hundreds.
That offer foundation cowherdtraits, coupled with growth
levels and marbling and musclethat fit today's commercial
marketplace.
And just, like I said, Einsteinsaid earlier, the result seems
simple, but the process behindit is a little complex and
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that's, that's what we do.
That's our job.
It's what we've done for 120years now.
Admittedly.
Great-grandfather barrier wasnot likely online doing sire
sorts at 10 o'clock or midnight,but a.
It's what we have tried to do.
He used to say.
I let's see if I can rememberthis.
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"We strive to produce an animalwho profits his owner through
his production." That's amouthful, but whether it is on
his was on his place or somebodyelse's place that bought him.
He wanted them to profit thatowner through their production.
And that was his goal.
It still is.
It's what brought about thiswhole practical, profitable
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genetics that we talk about adnauseum these days.
So.
That's that's how the bulls thatwe're going to sell next
Saturday, the 23rd.
That's how they came to be, um,again, right or wrong.
That's our breeding philosophy.
That's our managementphilosophy.
And that's what we feel like,uh, fits best for our customers
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and the industry.
So, for the final time on thisyear's podcast, I'm going to
invite you once again to be withus in person or online for our
52nd annual bull sale.
Saturday, November 23rd.
We'll start at 1230 at the ranchNorthwest of Eureka, Kansas.
Sell about 70 coming, two yearold bulls and just over 80
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yearlings.
We'll walk the bulls through thesale ring.
Uh, plus we will also broadcastthe sale online@cci.live.
The catalog, searchable,catalog, flip catalog videos,
phenotypic data, or.
Gina typic data sheets,everything is available.
At dalebanks.com.
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And if you'd like a printedcatalog, uh, just shoot me your
mailing address to my email.
mattperrier@dalebanks.com and wewill get one to you in the mail
very quickly.
So again, thank you forlistening.
Thank you for putting up withthis week's host and guest.
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and I promise I won't do anymore of these solo flights until
next year about this time, but,uh, uh, it is always good to get
on here and visit with you.
I like it better when I havesomeone to visit back with me.
But, uh, again, thanks forlistening.
We're coming up on Thanksgivingand I do, I mean it, when I say
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it, thank you for listening tothis podcast.
I thank you.
And I thank God for all theblessings that He continues to
give us.
Have a great day.
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