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Welcome to the deep dive. Today, we are
really digging into something central to Canada's identity.
We are. Our mission, really, is to figure
out
how hockey went from, you know, just being
a game to becoming this
this literal pulse of the nation, a huge
cultural force. Yeah. It dictates so much mood,
economy, even national memory. And the sources we've
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looked at cover a lot of ground. Yeah.
They really do. Everything from the,
the historical beginnings, the economic side, which is
staggering, to those big moments everyone talks about.
And it challenges now too, the tough stuff.
Exactly. And the whole journey towards being more
inclusive, which is
complex. It's fascinating because hockey seems to be
this,
this unifying thing in a country that's so
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diverse
geographically, linguistically
Mhmm. Socially. Mhmm. You've got what? Over 600,000
registered players plus millions and millions of fans.
It's massive. Okay. You can't really get Canadian
culture unless you understand why, you know, businesses
shut down, streets empty out when the national
team's going for gold at the Olympics. Right.
It's like a symbol. It is. A living
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symbol of resilience,
maybe cooperation,
and definitely that sort of fierce,
sometimes quiet national pride. Okay. So let's unpack
that foundation. A lot of countries adopt sports.
But how did hockey become such a natural
fit for Canada? Like, it grew from there.
Well, fundamentally, it started with the place itself,
the environment. Keep cold. Yeah. The cold, the
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ice. Yeah. Hockey just, it grew organically on
frozen lakes,
rivers, ponds
all across the North. It wasn't imported. It
was also practical response to the climate. Right.
A climate Canadians kinda learn to embrace, you
know, work with, not just endure. And there's
a deeper history
there too, isn't there? The indigenous connection. Oh,
absolutely critical and often overlooked.
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Games like Shinny,
played by the Mi'kmaq, the, Jibwe.
They used curved sticks on ice. Mhmm. And
these weren't just games for fun. They were
functional, building skills for hunting, maybe warfare,
and definitely strengthening communities in those long winters.
So elements we see today came from that.
You can see traces. Yeah. And stick handling,
maybe some team structures. Yeah.
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There's an influence there from those ancient games.
So then it moves from a pawn to
something more formal.
Exactly.
That cultural exchange feeds into his formalization.
The big marker is often seen as the
first organized indoor game,
Montreal,
1875.
Okay. And the timing is really interesting. This
is happening right around the time Canada itself
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is forming,
post 1867
Confederation.
So the nation's development and the sports development
were kind of intertwined,
almost symbiotic. And given how huge Canada is,
how did it spread everywhere? How did it
become so
ubiquitous?
I think accessibility was massive early on. How
so? Well, think about it. All you really
needed was skates, sticks, and frozen water. Which
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was everywhere. Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. Especially compared
to sports needing special fields or warm
weather. So it was available relatively cheap to
get into across vast areas. Makes sense. It's
what led Pierre Trudeau, the former prime minister,
to say something like,
hockey captures the Canadian spirit.
Strength through diversity,
perseverance through adversity, that kind of thing. Thriving
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in harsh conditions. And the media played a
role early on in making it a shared
thing. Oh, hugely.
Hockey Night in Canada. It started on the
radio way back 1931.
Wow. That broadcast became this
this national institution. Didn't matter if you were
in a tiny remote town or a big
city. You were listening to the same game.
It literally became the soundtrack of Canadian winters
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for generations.
Okay. Let's shift to those big moments, international
games.
When Canada plays, it feels like more than
sport. It's like Mhmm. History happening live. It
really does become cultural history.
And if you're talking collective memory, you absolutely
have to start with the nineteen seventy two
Summit Series. Right. Against the Soviet Union. 09/28/1972.
You could argue it's the single most important
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date in Canadian sports history. Why so significant
more than just winning? Oh, yeah. It was
loaded with Cold War tension.
The Canadian pros against the Soviet state sponsored
amateurs,
it was ideology on ice. And the whole
country was watching, wasn't it? The numbers are
incredible. An estimated 16,000,000
Canadians watched game eight,
the deciding game. Out of how many people
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then? Population was only around 22,000,000, so almost
everyone. Wow. And when Paul Henderson scored that
winning goal,
thirty four seconds left
after Canada had been trailing in this series,
it just cemented this national story of resilience,
of coming back against the odds. And people
still talk about it. Absolutely. You still hear
Canadians ask, where were you when Henderson scored?
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It's a cultural touchstone. That unifying power.
Yeah. Saw it in more recently. Right? Vancouver
2010.
Definitely. Sydney Crosby's overtime winner against The US
for Olympic gold. That sparked just spontaneous street
parties right across the country, coast to coast.
Yeah. I remember seeing footage of that. For
a moment, all those regional divides just vanished.
Yeah. Everyone was Canadian celebrating together. It's rare
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to see that kind of unity. Which brings
up the Canada US rivalry.
That seems like more than just wanting to
win a game too. It is. It's much
deeper. It often acts as a sort of
proxy for asserting a unique Canadian identity.
A human. Well, against the sheer cultural and
economic weight of The US. Right? Winning in
hockey is one area where Canada can claim
and often demonstrate
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superiority. Mhmm. It boosts national pride in a
big way. And that rivalry is particularly fierce
in the women's game too. Oh, incredibly so.
Mhmm. The Canada USA women's rivalry,
especially in the Olympics,
it's produced some of the most intense, dramatic,
and frankly inspiring moments in the sport's history.
Mhmm. Real nail biters often for gold medals.
So that pride, that rivalry, it's culturally invaluable.
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But let's talk dollars and cents. How much
economic activity does all this passion actually generate?
Well, that deep passion translates into some serious
money. The figure suggests hockey contributes around,
$11,200,000,000
annually to the Canadian economy. 11,200,000,000.0.
That's huge. It is. Our sources put it
at roughly point 6% of the entire country's
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GDP for one sport. Is there a sense
then that the economics are now driving the
culture, or is it still the other way
around? That's a great question. It's probably a
bit of both now. But
the economic engine is undeniable.
Look at NHL teams. They aren't just teams.
They're often catalysts
for major urban change. Like building arenas. Yes.
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But much more than that.
Take the ICE District in Edmonton.
Around Rogers Place, the arena, they built this
massive $2,500,000,000
development condos, offices, entertainment.
It revitalized the whole area. Right. And you
saw something similar, maybe on a different scale,
when the NHL returned to Winnipeg in 02/2011.
The arena, the Canada Life Centre, really injected
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life back into the downtown. These projects are
strategies using hockey to drive wider development. Okay.
That's the big cities. What about smaller places?
Away from the NHL spotlight, does hockey matter
economically there too? Immensely. You've got junior hockey,
the CHL, the Canadian Hockey League. It's the
main development league for young players
aiming for the pros. Right. In many smaller
cities and towns, that junior team is the
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main attraction. It's the lifeblood.
They draw thousands of fans, bring in visitors,
generate millions in local spending. Especially tournaments, I
imagine. Exactly. Hosting tournaments is huge, especially in
winter when maybe other tourism is slow. It's
a really valuable economic boost for those communities.
Okay. So we have this picture
of immense cultural value, huge economic impact.
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But there's another side to it, a more
complex reality.
The sources mentioned challenges, conflicts with modern values.
Yeah. We have to talk about that. The
history, the culture,
it's a bit of a double edged sword
sometimes. How so? Well, the sport has, historically
anyway,
often rewarded a certain kind of,
hyper masculine behavior, and that's led to real
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problems. Violence, hazing rituals, a toxic kind of
boys will be boys culture in some corners.
The Hockey Canada scandal in 2022
brought a lot of that to light, didn't
it? It absolutely did. The sexual assault allegations,
the handling of it, it led to parliamentary
hearings, major leadership changes. It really exposed how
ingrained some of these issues were. Like a
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culture of silence? What happens in the rink
stays in the rink? That seemed to be
a big part of it. Yeah. And that
had to break down for real change to
even begin.
And besides the cultural issues, there's also the
cost. Right? Is it still a sport for
everyone? That's a major concern now.
The financial barrier is significant.
Equipment alone for a kid can easily top
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a thousand dollars. Wow.
And if you're talking elite travel teams,
specialized coaching,
you could be looking at over $10,000
a year, easily. So that limits who can
play?
Sadly, yes. Yeah. It tends to concentrate the
sport among wealthier families. It makes it harder
for new Canadians, lower income families to get
involved at higher levels. It definitely challenges that
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idea of hockey being the democratic accessible game
for all. But there are efforts to change
things
towards inclusion and diversity. Yes. Definitely. There's a
significant push happening. Look at the women's game.
Incredible success internationally.
Five Olympic gold since '98
And the launch of the PWHL, the Professional
Women's Hockey League, in 2024.
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That's massive.
Finally, a unified viable pro league that the
players fought so hard for. That must be
huge for visibility and opportunity.
Absolutely.
And you're seeing diversity efforts elsewhere too. The
fan base is changing. You mentioned hockey night
in Canada earlier. Yeah. They have a broadcast
in Punjabi now that draws over half a
million viewers. Really? Yeah. Showing how the devotion
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of the sport is crossing into new communities.
Hockey Canada is also providing registration materials in,
like, 12 languages now to help newcomer families
get involved. And role models are emerging too.
Big time. When Nazem Kadri won the Stanley
Cup, he took it to a mosque in
his hometown to celebrate his Lebanese roots.
That was a powerful moment. Yeah. You also
have grassroots programs like Three Nations Hockey,
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focusing on indigenous youth, combining skills with cultural
pride. Players like Carey Price with his Okacho
First Nation heritage become such important symbols. The
ownership level. Yeah. That's shifting too. The Toronto
six team and the PWHL
became the first pro team
primarily owned by BIPOC investors back in 2023.
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So
change is happening on and off the ice.
Slowly, maybe, but it's happening. Okay. Let's pivot
one last time to the global stage.
How does Canada use hockey
internationally beyond just competing, like But as soft
power? It's a really effective tool for what
they call hockey diplomacy.
Meaning? Well, when Canadian leaders meet with leaders
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from other countries where hockey is big, Russia,
Sweden, Finland,
Czech Republic,
The sport is an instant common ground. Ah,
an icebreaker. Literally. Exactly. It opens doors, builds
rapport, sometimes allows conversations to happen that might
be trickier if it was a purepolitik. And
Canada exports more than just players. Right? They
export
a whole system. That's a key point in
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the sources. Yeah. Yeah. They're exporting their developmental
philosophy. Canadian coaches are hired all over the
world to run national programs. And they bring
this approach that emphasizes
teamwork,
skill development,
respect,
maybe slightly less when at all costs than
some other systems. These Canadian developed youth programs
have been adopted in over 30 countries trying
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to build their own hockey culture. And what
about the relationship with The US? US? Obviously,
the rivalry is huge, but the NHL itself
crosses the border. Right. Those cross border teams,
Buffalo Toronto, Detroit Windsor proximity, Vancouver Seattle,
now they create this shared cultural space Yeah.
Even when there are political tensions or trade
disputes between Ottawa and Washington. Yeah. The NHL,
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the shared love of the game, provides this
kind of neutral territory,
a space for positive connection that just keeps
going regardless of politics. Okay. So wrapping this
up for the listener. What's the big picture?
We've seen hockey as this huge unifier, a
massive economic force, and also this this testing
ground for Canadian values as they evolve. That
sums it up well. Mhmm. But now, looking
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forward, there's a really significant challenge emerging circles
right back to the beginning, actually. How so?
Climate change.
The very origin of Canadian hockey,
the outdoor rink, the frozen pond, the lake,
the free accessible ice where anyone could learn
to play,
that's under threat. Because winters aren't as cold.
Exactly.
The sources point to a major drop in
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the number of reliable outdoor skating days, especially
across Southern Canada where most people live. So
that foundation, that democratic ideal of the sport
is literally
melting away. That's the worry.
And it leaves us with a pretty provocative
final thought for you, the listener, to chew
on. Yeah. If that accessible frozen pond, the
very symbol of hockey's democratic roots, is disappearing
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because of environmental change,
can hockey truly hold on to its identity
as the national game for all Canadians?
Or is it inevitably becoming more of an
urban expensive indoor spectacle Oh. Mainly for those
who can afford the rising cost of ice
time?