July 15, 2025 • 47 mins
We continue our conversation with Corene Gardner as she shares her powerful journey from hiding her true self to embracing authenticity in every area of her life, revealing how unexpected moments can trigger profound personal transformation and growth.
• Discovering hidden childhood trauma through an unexpected experience at the chiropractor
• Breaking through cultural barriers that discourage therapy and emotional healing
• Creating multiple successful businesses including Pampered Pretty Parfait hair and body products
• Growing an online presence with 8,000+ YouTube subscribers as a content creator
• Balancing marketplace success with ministry calling as a prophetess and co-pastor
• Building a marriage partnership that creates space for both spouses to flourish
• The importance of speaking life over your partner and seeing their potential
• Finding confidence in your gifts through obedience and practice
• Recognizing that authenticity requires being planted in the right environment
Be confident that He who has begun a good work in you is able to perform it. Everything you need is already on the inside of you - dig deep and trust what God says about you.
Thanks for listening!
Until next time, continue to press into your purpose!
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hello, my name is Valeria Wright and this is
Pressed Into Purpose.
I've been through some thingsmyself, traumatic things myself,
and you're right, it is superduper painful to relive or
unearth something that youdidn't even realize was
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triggering you or was causingyou pain.
Yeah, I, uh, I, I had aexperience.
It was so funny.
So I went to the chiropractorone time and this is my first
experience with a chiropractorand I went to the chiropractor
because my knees were botheringme Okay, so he's doing the
adjustment.
(01:07):
And about my third visit, hesaid there is a new technique
that I am practicing and I said,okay.
He said it's homeopathic and Iwas like, okay, I don't know
what that is, but no, okay.
He said would you be okay withme trying, trying this new
technique on you?
And I said, I suppose, becauseI'm nervous now, right, right.
(01:31):
So he took some drops listen, Idon't know what these drops was
, listen, okay.
And he said he put themunderneath my tongue, listen.
And he said now take a deep.
He stepped behind me.
He said now take a deep breath.
And he started counting and hestarted tapping.
Listen, I don't, don't, I don't, I don't even understand.
(01:54):
He got, he started countingfrom one and as he tapped, tap,
tap, he, by the time he got tosix, something happened.
And he said what happened toyou when you were six?
I said say what now?
He said what happened to youwhen you were six?
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I said I don't know.
He said just take a moment andthink about it.
Karine, yeah, yeah, I had tothink about it.
Corrine, yeah yeah, I had tothink about that thing.
Yeah, and what happened to mewhen I was six was my sister
almost died and I was standingthere looking at her in the
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hospital bed in the ICU on lifesupport.
Wow, saying God, don't takeaway my best friend.
Wow, wow, I was at thechiropractor.
Wow, saying God, don't takeaway my best friend.
Wow, wow, I was at thechiropractor.
Wow, that's powerful.
What that is powerful.
I said I ran up out of thatplace, sir, I'm going to have to
go.
I got to go.
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Listen, I ran up out of thatplace, I called my sister.
I said you ain't going tobelieve what just happened to me
.
Wow, and cause, my sisters werejust one of my sisters as a
counselor, and so she was goingthrough the process.
You know, because you know, ifyou're going to counsel others.
Then you have to walk throughthat process, as you mentioned.
And then one of my othersisters had just started going
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to therapy.
Because, you know, in ourcommunity come on now let's talk
about this is new this is newthat we, we go to therapy and
that we, you know, uh, deal withtrauma.
Yes, because in our community,for the longest time, because of
so much trauma, yeah, nobodyhad.
You just got to move on.
You got to get over it.
Because you know what I'msaying, what happens in this
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house stays in this house.
And so when I got, I ran up outthat chiropractor and I had to
call my sister.
I said he just made me remembersomething that I hadn't even I
didn't even know it was there.
And when I told them about it,they were like, wow, that's
pretty deep, okay, so what yougonna do about that?
(04:02):
And I was like, well, I don'tknow, but at least this is early
.
I said I don't know.
But but yeah, dog, um, um, I'mgonna have to really think about
this.
Yeah, and that was my firstexperience with therapy.
Wow, through the chiropractor.
And I was like, if I can sitwith the chiropractor, because,
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think about it, it makes sensewhen we're housing trauma.
It affects our body, it does.
It shows up in pain, aches.
Come on and talk about it.
My pastor says all the timesome of this dis-ease is
unforgiveness.
Okay, listen, period.
(04:47):
Yes, indeed, and so it'sunhealed trauma.
It's the things that we don'twant to talk about.
It's the things that we don'twant to allow God to uproot.
Right, ask me how I know.
Okay, look, listen.
God to uproot Right.
Ask me how I know.
Look, listen.
So, if you so.
(05:08):
So when you, when you firstbegan to really make the shift,
what were those beginning dayslike?
I mean, what were theconversations that you were
having with yourself?
It started out a littleuncomfortable because it was
different.
I was operating outside ofmyself like it's okay, you can
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do it.
Yeah, I was like fly littlebird, go.
I don't know if you remember thescene in what's Love Got to Do
With it.
That's one of my favoritemovies.
Ask Gina, I've watched it.
I can quote the movie withouteven watching it.
There's a scene in that moviewhere Anna Mae is getting ready
to go and perform on stage withIke for the first time, but
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she's nervous.
Yes, that's me.
Okay, right, okay, okay.
So her sister Eileen says go on, anna Mae, you've been
practicing in the bathroomenough, yes, yes, yes.
And then she took the mic andkilled it.
Listen, that's how that was forme.
Wow, like I coached myself,like you got it.
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Yeah, you've been practicing inthe bathroom.
Enough, yes, you've beenpracticing behind the scenes.
Enough, go on, you can reallylive this thing out.
You can live, you can be you,yes, and be okay.
You're still saved, still saved, you're still saved.
So now we have to talk about allthe many things that have been
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birthed out of you reallydiscovering and walking into
Kareem Gardner, the pamperedpretty, the influencer, the
content creator, the, the, justthe multiple entrepreneur.
Like you, you have your hand ina lot of things and you don't
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just have your hands in a lot ofthings just to be doing a lot
of things.
You are successful in thesedifferent things that you've
done.
Now, I got to listen.
You didn't ask me for nocommercial, but I got to tell
y'all listen, this body butterfrom Pepper Pretty, if you don't
have none, you better get some,because it'll keep you.
It get you nice and soft, okay,you know, you know.
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And smelling good too.
Okay, all right, amen, uh,that's, that's.
That was the unsolicited uh, uh, uh, commercial.
Okay, pampered, pretty parfaitpraise the lord, get yourself.
Okay, um, praise the lord, soyou've got parfait.
You have shampoo andconditioner tell me about these
things, tell the people aboutand conditioner.
Tell me about these things.
Tell the people about thesethings, because I know about
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these things.
Tell the people about them.
Yeah, so I launched a hair careline because I've been natural
since 2010, I want to say, andso I wanted to create my own
product line because of thestrategies that I've created for
myself that helped my hair growand thrive.
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You know, I was natural forseven years and then I locked my
hair.
Yes, you did.
You were my inspiration.
One, thank you, one of one oftwo great inspirations.
Uh-huh, thank you, listen.
So I, I was locked for sevenyears and I just recently last
year, in January, it's been ayear I coned out my locks.
My heart was broken, people, myheart was broken.
I was like, no, I mean, herlocks was down here.
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I was heartbroken.
Anyway, carry on.
No, you could.
I probably broke a lot ofpeople's heart, but my lock
journey was purposely done.
Okay, and once I felt as thoughI had reached my journey, um of
discovery and loving myself.
Because you know, when you gothrough that phase listen to me,
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man you got to really loveyourself, you do.
And because I used to be in themirror like babe, I look okay,
all right, babe, it's okay, thathad to do what it wanted to do,
okay, and you'll be like it,don't go down, like it used to
go down, and it it's over hereand I want it to be over here.
Them early locks yeah, I callit the, the, the beautiful face.
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Everybody call it the ugly face.
But looking back on it and whereI was in life, I'm always
evolving.
I don't ever feel as though Ihave arrived.
I always feel like I'm evolvinginto a deeper version of myself
, and so my lock journey was apart of that elevation,
evolution.
And so when I cut my locks, Ifelt, when I combed them out, I
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felt like I had reached a placein my journey, that what the
locks were designed to do, I didit, okay.
Okay as far as self-love,self-discovery, getting my
confidence back, all of thethings that people think are
cliche when it comes to the lockjourney, it really is a journey
.
It really is a journey toself-love and appreciation, and
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I felt as though I met thatjourney, but along the way, I've
picked up a lot of tips to helppeople and women take care of
their natural hair, so I createda natural hair care line, and
that was a that was a part of myjourney as well.
The Pampered Pretty Parfait isa shea butter based body butter
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and hair cream that is designedto, of course, moisturize the
hair and skin, and so that was apart that was the beginning
phases of me evolving.
That was like when 2015, that'sTennessee version of me Notice
that that was not birthed inTexas.
I want to share this becauseand this just fell in my spirit
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to share we, when we're tryingto walk out our purpose and be
who God called us to be and liveout dreams, we have to be on
the right soil.
We have to be in the rightplace to do so.
Yes, we have to be under theright leadership to be able to
do that, because it makes thedifference.
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Had I tried to birth that inTexas, it would not have
happened.
It would not have happened, soI had to be in the right place,
in the right region, at theright time, doing the right
thing, in order for it to hitthe way that it.
Yes, and then I went on fromthere to now.
I'm content, creating.
(11:25):
Yes, you know what I'm saying.
Yes, I get, I have over 8,000subscribers on my YouTube
channel.
I remember when you had under100, listen, and I and you and
you said, you said I'm going toget to a thousand subscribers.
That's what you said.
And I was like, okay, then, sis, this is all right, and you was
creating, and you was creatingand you was creating and it was
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like every hundred people, youwas like, yeah, at 200.
Yeah, and I ain't gonna lie toyou, I was like I know she's
gonna get there, but I don'tknow how long it's gonna take
her.
But, oh, my goodness, I gotexcited every time you got to
the next hundred, thank you.
And now you are eight thousand,wow.
Well, some people may saythat's not a, that's not a whole
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lot, but it is a lot.
That's a whole big deal.
Listen, that's a whole big dealto be at.
8,000 subscribers, listen, andalmost almost 9,000 subscribers,
9,000 followers on Instagram,wow, wow.
So God is expanding my reach andmy influence, but the only way
that he was able to do that is Ihad to be me, authentically.
You and I have watched youblossom and spread your wings
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and it has really been beautifulto see.
I didn't realize that all thosebeginning years you were still
in the cocoon, I didn't realizethat, oh yeah.
But now that you said it, I cansee it, and I can see Tennessee
you coming out, breaking outthe shell and then, by the time
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listen, by the time y'all leftthere, you was flying, yeah,
yeah, and so you came here.
It was just the Birmingham.
It's just a part of anotherpart of the journey, and I mean
you, you've I feel like you'vealways walked strong in your
ministry calling.
I feel like you've alwayswalked strong in your ministry
calling, but now you're walkingstrong in who God has created
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you to be Totally, and I love it.
Thank you, I love that for youand I love that for me and I
love that for us.
Yes, because the more of usthat begin to walk in our
authenticity, the more otherpeople are free, yeah, the more
other people can see that theycan do it and that is okay.
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God told me that I didn't haveto choose, mmm, that I didn't
have to.
It wasn't salvation or beingwho you are in the marketplace.
God said you don't have tochoose, you can do both.
You can do both, and peoplewill try to box you in yes, they
will and say, no, you need toconcentrate on the ministry,
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don't worry about all that.
But if we don't bring themtogether, how are the
marketplace going to beinfluenced by the God I serve?
Exactly, exactly, so God saidyou don't have to choose, you
can do both and do them well.
And do them Well.
You are, thank you, listen.
So you have.
So you, so you've got thepampered pretty and you are a
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YouTuber and an influencer andrecently I have seen your video,
your style videos, your styleinspo videos, as well as these
scents, honey, and listen, Iain't gonna lie to you, you're
always smelling good.
Okay, you're always smellinggood and I'm like you just be
mixing the things together and Ijust and I'll be like I ain't
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finna do all that, but oh mygosh, she be smelling so good.
Look, y'all believe the hype,she really do be smelling that
good.
When she came home the otherday from a full day of work, I
hugged on her.
I hugged the neck because Ihadn't seen her in a while and I
was like, oh my goodness, shesmells amazing.
She really does smell amazing.
So listen when she tells you todo, when she tells you what you
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need to do to make sure that youlayer in the scents and
everything.
Listen, listen to the woman ofGod.
Listen, because she's trying tohelp you.
She's trying to help you.
We're saying you ain't doingall that, I ain't doing it.
Listen, I got on one fragranceright now, okay, and I only wear
fragrance every day because Idon't have time for all that.
For me, that's like, as I'm inthe shower, I'm thinking about
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the night before.
Really, I'm thinking about whatfragrance am I going to wear
tomorrow?
Really, wow, see, I don't be.
It ain't that deep for me, butI bless God that he is giving it
to you.
You see what I'm saying BecauseI love that you are, you're able
to be authentically you.
You see what I'm saying BecauseI love, I love that you are,
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you're able to be authenticallyyou.
You're able to be authenticallyyou in in the uh, not only in
ministry, but authentically youin your uh, in, in in your um
appearance and authentically youin really every, every aspect
of your life.
So let me, let me, let's, let'sswitch over back to the
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ministry part of it.
So you are a co-pastor, you area um, you're a prophet, you're
a preacher.
Let's talk about that part andhow, how you have been able to
journey, to get to a place whereyou were confident enough to
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walk in, walk out all thosepieces of your calling.
So my husband and I have alwaysbeen in ministry together Since
we got married.
We've always been in ministry,but the beginning of it I was
always referred to as SisterGino Say, who now, oh wow, I
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guess I did call you Gino's wife.
Listen, sister Gino, sisterGino.
And for a while I was okay withthat.
I was good, standing beside myhusband, who was a preacher, a
powerful preacher, come on,still is a powerful preacher,
powerful teacher.
Yes, I was OK with that.
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And to the Lord nudged me andsaid what about you?
You got something.
You ain't just a pretty face,you're not just arm candy, come
on, you got something in yourhead too, like the old people
used to say.
The list said you ain't in yourbelly, ok, people.
You said, listen, you ain't inyour belly, okay, okay.
And so I started tapping intothat thing.
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And then, of course, you know, Iwent to Iraq, preach, did my
thing, came back led praise andworship.
I was a minister of music forabout 12 years, did that
passionately.
I love that, that is my passion, I remember.
And then my pastor startedallowing me to minister because
she knew I had did it over inIraq, yeah, so when I came back
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to the state, she startedallowing me to minister.
So that was Evolution as wellgoing through learning how to
preach the gospel, learning howto do it the way God gave it to
me and not try to sound likeValeria, come on, not using
learned behavior in the pulpit,but using authentic Holy Spirit,
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led word and power that God hasgiven me, and not trying to
sound like or mimic Cheryl Bradyor Juanita Bynum and you know
all the grace that we hear beingokay with being me, yes, and
being okay with it not soundinglike everybody else.
And then when he refined theprophet in me, that was a whole
nother level, I'm sure.
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But see, the prophet was notbirthed in Texas, it was really
actually birthed in Alabama,really, I mean.
But you were walking in theprophetic, you, you, you.
Well, okay, I guess you wasdabbling in it in Tennessee, in
Tennessee, yeah, but so you'resaying that you were, you were
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really I was trying to come togrips with that.
Okay, like I hear, I see, Idream, I have open visions, yeah
, but I'm scared.
I'm scared of what I see.
I'm not to the point where Ican say, but the Lord is saying
well, the Lord wanted me to tellyou.
I wasn't there yet.
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I had to have a coach Shout outto my mentor Come on, the
prophetess Kathy Robinson, allright, all right, come on,
coached me, mentored me into whoyou see today.
Wow, and through Holy Spirit,giving me boldness every time I
declare the word and somebodycome back and say you were spot
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on.
How did you know that?
Yeah, yeah, and I give God theglory, absolutely, absolutely.
And so now I would say, today Iam the most confident in my
gifts that I've ever been.
Hallelujah, most confident, yes, and it almost brings tears to
my eyes.
We had prayer this morning,intercessory prayer this morning
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, with our team, and I just weptbecause God was just speaking
to me so clearly.
Yeah, and I just begin toreflect on God.
I thank you that I'm confidentin who I am and I'm not second
guessing anymore.
Now do I have moments where I'mlike Lord, was that you, my
Lord, was that me or you.
Let me know now before I say it.
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Okay, I'm always walking withcaution with God Because I love
Him and I fear God.
And I don't want with caution.
Yes With God.
Yes, because I love him and Ifeel we should, and I fear God
and I don't want to get it wrong.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm not saying perfect, right,right.
I just don't want to, because Iunderstand that people's lives
are on the line.
I was just about to saypeople's lives are at stake.
They are at stake.
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Okay, I guess I'm asking youare we talking about your life
on the podcast?
I got to talk about that too,father.
So, literally as you're talking, right?
So it has made me reflect on avery recent conversation.
A couple of recent conversationsthat I've had, wow, one with my
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girlfriend that I've known foryears, and one with my sister.
So I was cleaning out my officeabout two months ago and I was
going through.
I'm not the person that cleansand, just you know, throws stuff
out, I'm the one that, well,let's look through this, let's
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look through that.
So I came across some of my oldjournals from probably 15 years
ago.
Wow, I was just reading throughsome of those.
I was like, okay, god, oh, wow,I've come a long way, jesus,
father, listen.
And I came across a passage thatI wrote God has called you as a
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prophet, kareem.
I was like say, who now?
Because I don't remember that,you don't.
But I wrote it down.
Wow, I don't remember that, butI wrote it down Fast forward.
I don't remember that, but Iwrote it down Fast forward.
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I, my, my eldest sister, is hasbeen called to the office of a
prophet, my and two, my twoother sisters.
They have the gift of prophecy.
Now, the gift of prophecy isvery different from the office
of a prophet.
So I knew I, over the years, Iknew that I had the gift of
prophecy, but I don't rememberwriting down that God has called
me as a prophet, right, don't,don't remember that until I'm
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reading it a few months ago.
So I'm talking to my sister, umthe other, a couple of weeks ago
, and she said and and we'rejust, we're talking and I'm
telling her how God isstretching me in all these
different areas and I'm justlike I said, in every area, in
every circle that I'm in, youknow, god is provoking All the
people around me, are provokingme to righteousness, and I was
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like I just, you know, I'm notmad, but I'm just like, really,
god, you just going to stretchme in every area to do
everything and all at the sametime.
That's what we do.
So you know, I'm an intercessorand I, you know, I'm a teacher
of the word of God and I knewthat God had given me the gift
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of prophecy, but I had never, Inever walked in it, like not for
real, for real, like until Igot to where the church that I'm
at now and where you talk about, the, where you're planted, it
matters Right.
So, if I remember, we've beenat this particular ministry for
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probably, I guess, six, five,six years somewhere in there now
and, to be honest with you, Ididn't want to be there.
I didn't want to go therebecause I said, lord, I know too
many people, we know too manypeople.
I want to go somewhere wheredon't nobody know my name.
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They don't want I want to gosomewhere.
I don't want to do nothing, Ijust want to sit.
I don't need to be in nobody'sleadership, I don't even want
them to know that I know how todo nothing.
Okay, and I sat there for awhole year.
But I can remember, even inthat year, very early on, I'm
like I'm I'm remembering this inreal time as I'm talking to you
.
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I remember sitting in the backof the church, because that's
why I like to be in the back.
I don't say I'm like to be upfront, like so he could pay
attention and you know all thethings.
He want to be where the fire is.
I would rather be sitting inthe back and worship was going
on and God spoke to me and saidtell him that it's going to be
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okay.
And I'm like tell who?
And I look, I turn around and Isee the man.
I'm like I don't know this man,I'm not telling him that, tell
him that.
I said it's going to be okay.
And I said I mean, but somebodyelse could tell him.
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I don't, that's how we do.
I don't know why you want me totell him, but even in that
small thing, when I find aboutthe fourth time, he told me
Jesus, you know what.
I went ahead and you know, andat that point I was expecting
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something real fantastic and bigto happen.
You know what I'm saying.
Okay, god, I'm going to tellthe man that you said everything
is going to be okay.
Right, I turned around, Itapped him on the shoulder and I
said God said everything isgoing to be okay.
Right, I turned around, Itapped him on the shoulder and I
said God said everything isgoing to be okay.
And he said okay, I was kind ofdeflated.
You thought he was going tofall out Out of the Holy Spirit.
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That's what I thought was goingto happen.
Okay, that did not happen.
But God was working on myobedience.
And so I see that now you knowwhat I'm saying Me and obedience
.
So I've, I've, I've learned,you know that.
You know obedience is bettersacrifice.
But also I've learned that whenyou're not obedient the first
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time, that is disobedient,absolutely.
And so that was that waschallenging for me.
But to get back to the pointthat I was trying to make right,
because you know I'd just begoing off on tangents, no, you
could.
I didn't remember that until Iread it about the prophet God
called me to be a prophet.
And I'm sitting and I'm talkingto my sister a couple weeks ago
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and she says, well, because Isaid, well, yeah, you know, you
know, god has stretched me inall these areas.
And now they've asked me to,you know, pray at the altar and
stuff, and I don't know what topray.
I'm not that I don't know howto pray for people, because I've
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been praying for people foryears.
Okay, I'm just more comfortableif I know exactly what it is
that you need to be praying, beprayed for, needs to be prayed
for.
So I can, in my mind, hit thetarget Right, but God is showing
me that has its place Right.
But then there's also a timewhere I just need you to depend
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on me, right.
And so I'm, as you were talking.
I'm reminded of the stretch inthis area that I am currently in
and it is very uncomfortable,absolutely.
So that was my very long way ofgetting to the question of how
did you deal with thatuncomfortability and move past
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it?
Or is there a moving past it?
Or is there a moving past it?
There's absolutely a movingpast it.
I think it's just leaning onHoly Spirit, recognizing that
it's not by power, nor by might,but by my spirit, says the Lord
.
So understanding that it's notabout us.
This walk that we walk is aselfless walk, and us being
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uncomfortable is all a part ofthe territory, because if we
were comfortable then we wouldthink it's us.
Now, that's true, we'll beconfident in our own ability.
But I always tell people whenyou're nervous, that's a good
sign.
Now you sound like my mama,when you feel like I don't know
about that.
Lord, now you're cooking.
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But when you ever get up therelike, oh, I got this, I'm finna,
kill them, I'm finna, kill thisword.
The people are gonna die.
Finna, get this word.
Now, you in the flush.
Now you in the flush, sit ondown.
That ain't God.
Because a prophet told me many,many years ago.
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She said and this is aprophetic word that I got and
it's gonna connect.
She didn't know me from Adam'sTom Camp, yeah.
But she said God has called youto be a prophet, but your gift
is not for the house that you'rein.
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I was in Texas at the time.
Wow.
And she said and when Godbegins to use you, if you have
to think, it's not prophecy, hmm, well, okay then if you're
spending time trying to thinkabout what you're finna say or
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what you're getting ready.
That's not prophecy.
Wow, I train our prophets atthe church.
Well, the people with the giftof prophecy at our church.
If you're thinking god ain'tspeaking, yeah, yeah, that's.
That's your own understanding,that's you, yeah.
So for me, the uncomfortabilitywas almost like comfort in
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knowing that God, god got it.
Wow, I'm leaning on Holy Spiritbecause I don't know what to
tell these people.
I am clueless.
Listen, maybe some Sundays Iget up and I'll be saying, while
I'm getting dressed for church,and I'm literally telling me I
don't have anything to say today.
I wish you could hear my innerdialogue.
It's on Sunday mornings.
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I'm not saying nothing, I'm noteven going to.
Am I going to work all day?
Yeah, I'm going to get up therebecause I'm going to help the
man of God.
I'm going to help the man ofGod, but I don't have it.
I just feel like I really don'thave anything to say.
Doesn't mean today's?
God used me the most Because Ibe feeling like I don't have
nothing to say, because I don'tknow what to tell people, and I
get in that atmosphere and Godstart and I start seeing and
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hearing.
I'm like whoa, whoa and peopleat the altar and they're
standing and Apostle G ispraying for them and the Holy
Spirit would give me a word forthat person in the moment and
I'm like, okay, and what I loveabout the way that we operate in
ministry we always hold spacefor each other.
Okay, it's never been acompetition with he and I.
Yeah, because we realize thatwe have separate giftings and we
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have separate callings, but wework so well together and it's
not like, okay, I'm the dominantgift.
It's not that it's never beenjealous, he's trying to squish
my gift.
We work so well together andI'm always so grateful when he
opens up space for me.
There's never a moment inministry where he's like, all
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right, I'm the only one that gotthe word.
You know, I'm the pastor.
It's never that, and I'm sograteful that the men in our
ministry get to see that inaction.
It's important because in thisregion it is a very male
dominated region where the womenthey just most of them sit and
look pretty on Sunday morningand I can do that.
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Listen, yes, you can do it verywell.
Yes, you can, but heunderstands the fire in my belly
, he understands the anointingthat's on my life and he opens
space in every situation, everyaltar call, every time we're in
a ministry situation.
You got anything?
I mean, I've seen it, I've seenit in action and I love to see
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it, thank you.
And it is a blessing to be ableto witness, because not
everybody has that sametestimony.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
There are some spaces where,whether it's the male, the man
or the woman, mm-hmm, I'm theone that God doesn't call,
mm-hmm, man or the woman, I'mthe one that God doesn't call.
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And you just support, you ain'tgot nothing.
I got it Right.
And it's like, wait a minute.
And what I love and what I seeall the time is and I'm going to
say this to the women a womanthat is fulfilled is a happy
woman.
Come on, say that again for thepeople in the back is a happy
woman.
Come on, say that again for thepeople in the back when a woman
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is fulfilled, we can operate atour greatest capacity.
When we are fulfilled Absolutelyand I can't be, I wouldn't be
fulfilled if I couldn't beeverything that God has called
me to be, if I had to choose, orif I had to come in church and
be silent.
Right, right, right and listen,I'm going to tell you this
early in my marriage, I thoughtthat that's what I had to do.
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I thought that I had to comedown, bring myself down so that
I could push him up because he'sthe, he's the leader, right?
He's the this, he's the that,and and although although he is
the leader and he should, he isthe head, because that's where
God has called him to be thatdoes not mean that I'm supposed
to push myself down.
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And he even would say to mewhere is the?
Like?
We had a frank conversation likeearly in our marriage, probably
a year, two or three, becausewe were just like this, this
ain't what we thought it wasgoing to be, like, this is kind
of trash, like you know, likethe marriage was not great.
And we had a conversation oneday and it was like, and I was
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like well, I'm not doing this,this and this, because you know
I'm trying to help you do this,this, this.
And he was like I didn't askyou to do that, that poet.
I never asked you to do that,that poet.
I never asked you to do that.
In fact, I was looking for theperson that I dated for them
three years.
That disappeared when we gotmarried and I was like, say what
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now?
Say that again.
I had thought that submissionmeant I have to dumb myself down
or I have to push myself downso that he can be great.
That's not what that means.
That's not what that means atall At all.
And all that, get and getunderstanding and a real man
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will tell you that's not whatthat means.
Come on, come on.
A real man will push you toyour fullest potential and allow
you to evolve.
Yes, gino tells the story allthe time.
He said Kareem becomes a newwoman every year.
He told not one lie.
Wow, I evolve every.
It's feel like every six months, I really do wow, and and it's
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not like a, it's not a bad thing, it's just God, god grows me in
different areas and I starttapping into different passions
that I have.
And what I love about beingmarried to Gino is he allows me
to do that.
Yes, he creates space for me tobe and evolve and create and try
stuff.
You know, because we'readventurous.
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Yes, anybody that can pick uptheir family and move to another
state uh, more than once anddon't know a soul in the state
listen, that's adventurous.
And so the fact that I've.
I've done real estate, I'm inreal estate, I'm in my master's
program now.
I do content creating, I'veworked at sephora all the things
that I'm passionate about, andI'm t I'm a first grade teacher.
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Now right him open, not tryingto say now you're doing too much
.
Now you need to pick one thingand you know what I'm saying and
set out, and set out somewherebe a good wife.
He does not.
I'm so grateful that I have aman that says go get it, yes,
same, same I.
I have a man that says go getit, yes, same, same.
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I have to say my husband hasalways encouraged me.
I love it.
He's always pushed me to be thebest that I can be.
Anything I ever told him Iwanted to do, he was like you
should do it, come on and youcan do it.
And recently we've been throughour ups and downs, but recently
he said to me he was like youknow, I, even when I wasn't this
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is what he said to me Even whenI wasn't trying to do anything
myself, I always wanted you tobe the best that you could be,
be the best that you could be.
He was like, even though I knowI wasn't being the best man or
the best husband.
He was like I still wanted youto flourish and to win and to
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grow.
And when I look back over ourentire marriage, he ain't lied,
he ain't lied.
And so I was like, well, dang,I mean, but I've been wanting
you to be the best that you canbe.
And I mean, but I've beenwanting you to be the best that
you can be.
And I mean, as of the last fewyears, he has grown into being
and flourished into being allthat he can be, and now he's
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walking it out.
Yes, but I think about, and Ican't live in regret, but I
think about what?
If I had shown up earlier as myauthentic self and not pushed
myself down, where would we be?
Wow, had I walked in myauthenticity early on in the
marriage.
But you know, I didn't.
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It's okay, I made a differentchoice, but I'm doing it now,
but you're doing it now, butyou're doing it now.
And I can see how God is movingin our marriage as I step into
all that God has called me to beLike for real, for real, the
more I step into it, the more hesteps into it, right, right,
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and I'm just like, well, wow,it's like a partnership.
Yes, you know, gino and I havebeen married.
I was 19 and he was 21 when wegot married, so we literally
been together long.
We've been together longer thanwe've been without each other.
Yes, yes, and we literally grewup together.
Yes, in the literal sense.
And it's so funny to thinkabout because, thinking about
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those early years and who wewere then and who we are now,
yeah, I said, oh lord, oh baby,I'm so glad, listen, I'm so glad
that that God turned it.
Listen, because I was a fool.
Can I be honest?
You can be honest, can I?
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Can I be honest?
I was crazy, I was, was crazy,but thanks be unto God, oh God.
And I think about both of ourjourney to who we are today and
how we've matured, how wecommunicate now.
You know what I'm saying andhow we say okay, remember, I
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used to.
Yeah, I remember that.
I ain't like that.
Listen, that was whack.
You know what I'm saying.
I was almost.
I ain't like that.
Listen, that was whack.
You know, I was almost out ofhere.
Glad you got delivered, gladyou got that together, because
she's about to be homeless.
You know what I'm saying, stufflike that.
Yes, so I think we evolvedtogether.
Yes, as as couples you knowwhat I'm saying.
When you got the right one, itdoesn't matter if we weren't
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able to be our authentic self.
It's okay, because the journeycontinued and they created space
until we got ourselves together.
Come on, I created space forhim to gather himself.
He created space for me togather myself.
I think that's all a part oflove and grace with your partner
and being able to see them attheir worst, but being able to
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see them at their best.
I'm looking at you at yourworst, but I can see the best in
you Because it's listen.
Okay, now we need to.
I was about to turn the cornerso we could shut the thing down,
but, baby, listen, listen.
We need to talk about, we needto talk about listen.
We need to talk about thismarriage piece and how it is our
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responsibility as the wife tospeak life, listen, and I
learned listen.
I learned a piece of that fromyou.
Praise the Lord, listen,because you were speaking life
out in these streets and Ididn't see it.
I'm going to tell you thatright now.
Let me, is this camera on?
I didn't see it, but I spoke ittill I saw it.
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Listen, you was out in thesestreets speaking life and I said
, I said, oh, I said I don'tknow that, I said about mine,
but uh, you know, uh.
But I saw the potential.
Listen, I know, don't get mewrong.
I saw what you could be.
I saw what he could be, but Iwas like, but he ain't God, I
(41:39):
don't see it.
I mean, I see what he can be.
Why he don't see it?
And cause I wasn't speaking it.
I w I wasn't speaking what Isaw.
Now, look now, you.
Look now.
You got me going back to theprophet.
See, you got to start at home.
Yeah, if I can't call out whatI see in my house, how am I
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going to go outside the house,that part and prophesy to
somebody else.
Come on, oh God, help me, holyGhost, let me share this with
you.
Somebody else.
Come on, oh God, help me, holyghost, let me share this with
you.
I can remember when Gino was aspecialist in the United States,
uh-huh.
And I can remember saying youwon't be that long, hmm, see,
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that doesn't fit who you are.
So I saw the bigger picture.
I saw him at his rank that hewas when he retired.
Come on Also, when Gino wascutting grass, come on, working
at bills, uh-huh, like in hissong, strapping Just to Make the
Ends Meet, strapping Just toMake the Bills.
Let that, let that.
I saw him as the wealthy manthat he is today, come on.
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So I knew it was only going tobe a matter of time before he
stepped into that full potential, the job that he has now.
I already saw that 15 years ago.
Wow, didn't know how it wascoming.
I said now, lord, I need you tohurry up, listen, come on, jesus
, manif.
Come on, jesus, bring it tomanifest your word, manifest
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this right now.
But God said, no, I'm not goingto manifest it yet because
there's still some things in youthat I need to do.
Listen, we got to get up offhere.
Okay, I listen, listen, we got,we got, cause, cause we about
to go a whole nother hour and we, we, we listen, we, I'm gonna
have to have you back.
Yes, ma'am, on the podcast, I'mgonna have to have you and your
husband, okay, together on thepodcast, cause, listen, we got
(43:37):
some stuff to talk about that'sgoing to help the people.
Yes, cause we, we have helpedthe people today.
I'm telling you I'm not got tocut this interview off, cause we
gonna be here all night and Iand we, we got some other things
to do.
So, but I listen, let's, let's,let's, let's tie that, wrap
this up and tie this in a bow.
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And if you had to give advice toa woman who was trying to
understand or discover who sheis and who she is in God, what
would you speak to her?
What would you say?
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I would say God has given youeverything you need to be
successful.
It's already on the inside ofyou and he's waiting on you to
discover it.
Come on, he's not going toallow outside influences to tell
you who you are.
I know you're waiting onsomebody to say hey, you're
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called, you're anointed, you'rea prophet, you're an evangelist,
you're a teacher.
God is not going to allow,because he has.
You have to trust what he saysabout you.
His word concerning you is true, yes, and he wants to know that
you trust him and what hethinks and what he says about
you.
Dig deep.
Everything you need is alreadyon the inside of you.
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Be confident that he that hasbegun a good work in you is able
to perform it.
Come on, you got this Girl wewon.
Come on Listen, listen and onthat note, listen.
Girl, we won.
We are going to wrap up thisPreston's Purpose podcast
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episode.
I just want to say thank you,thank you, thank you.
Podcast episode.
I just want to say thank you,thank you, thank you.
Prophetess, pastor,entrepreneur, influencer,
corrine, wife, mother, daughter,sister, friend, corrine Gardner
, thank you so much for joiningme today.
Thank you so much for your yes,thank you for being
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authentically you.
Thank you for having thecourage yes, to step out and be
all that God has called you tobe.
Because you've done that, nowother people can see that they
can do it too.
So listen, we will see y'allnext time on Preston to Purpose.
Until then, continue to beblessed.
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Thanks for watching.
Hello, my name is Valeria Wright and this is
Pressed Into Purpose.
I've been through some thingsmyself, traumatic things myself,
and you're right, it is superduper painful to relive or
unearth something that youdidn't even realize was
(00:47):
triggering you or was causingyou pain.
Yeah, I, uh, I, I had aexperience.
It was so funny.
So I went to the chiropractorone time and this is my first
experience with a chiropractorand I went to the chiropractor
because my knees were botheringme Okay, so he's doing the
adjustment.
(01:07):
And about my third visit, hesaid there is a new technique
that I am practicing and I said,okay.
He said it's homeopathic and Iwas like, okay, I don't know
what that is, but no, okay.
He said would you be okay withme trying, trying this new
technique on you?
And I said, I suppose, becauseI'm nervous now, right, right.
(01:31):
So he took some drops listen, Idon't know what these drops was
, listen, okay.
And he said he put themunderneath my tongue, listen.
And he said now take a deep.
He stepped behind me.
He said now take a deep breath.
And he started counting and hestarted tapping.
Listen, I don't, don't, I don't, I don't even understand.
(01:54):
He got, he started countingfrom one and as he tapped, tap,
tap, he, by the time he got tosix, something happened.
And he said what happened toyou when you were six?
I said say what now?
He said what happened to youwhen you were six?
(02:14):
I said I don't know.
He said just take a moment andthink about it.
Karine, yeah, yeah, I had tothink about it.
Corrine, yeah yeah, I had tothink about that thing.
Yeah, and what happened to mewhen I was six was my sister
almost died and I was standingthere looking at her in the
(02:37):
hospital bed in the ICU on lifesupport.
Wow, saying God, don't takeaway my best friend.
Wow, wow, I was at thechiropractor.
Wow, saying God, don't takeaway my best friend.
Wow, wow, I was at thechiropractor.
Wow, that's powerful.
What that is powerful.
I said I ran up out of thatplace, sir, I'm going to have to
go.
I got to go.
(02:58):
Listen, I ran up out of thatplace, I called my sister.
I said you ain't going tobelieve what just happened to me
.
Wow, and cause, my sisters werejust one of my sisters as a
counselor, and so she was goingthrough the process.
You know, because you know, ifyou're going to counsel others.
Then you have to walk throughthat process, as you mentioned.
And then one of my othersisters had just started going
(03:18):
to therapy.
Because, you know, in ourcommunity come on now let's talk
about this is new this is newthat we, we go to therapy and
that we, you know, uh, deal withtrauma.
Yes, because in our community,for the longest time, because of
so much trauma, yeah, nobodyhad.
You just got to move on.
You got to get over it.
Because you know what I'msaying, what happens in this
(03:40):
house stays in this house.
And so when I got, I ran up outthat chiropractor and I had to
call my sister.
I said he just made me remembersomething that I hadn't even I
didn't even know it was there.
And when I told them about it,they were like, wow, that's
pretty deep, okay, so what yougonna do about that?
(04:02):
And I was like, well, I don'tknow, but at least this is early
.
I said I don't know.
But but yeah, dog, um, um, I'mgonna have to really think about
this.
Yeah, and that was my firstexperience with therapy.
Wow, through the chiropractor.
And I was like, if I can sitwith the chiropractor, because,
(04:26):
think about it, it makes sensewhen we're housing trauma.
It affects our body, it does.
It shows up in pain, aches.
Come on and talk about it.
My pastor says all the timesome of this dis-ease is
unforgiveness.
Okay, listen, period.
(04:47):
Yes, indeed, and so it'sunhealed trauma.
It's the things that we don'twant to talk about.
It's the things that we don'twant to allow God to uproot.
Right, ask me how I know.
Okay, look, listen.
God to uproot Right.
Ask me how I know.
Look, listen.
So, if you so.
(05:08):
So when you, when you firstbegan to really make the shift,
what were those beginning dayslike?
I mean, what were theconversations that you were
having with yourself?
It started out a littleuncomfortable because it was
different.
I was operating outside ofmyself like it's okay, you can
(05:33):
do it.
Yeah, I was like fly littlebird, go.
I don't know if you remember thescene in what's Love Got to Do
With it.
That's one of my favoritemovies.
Ask Gina, I've watched it.
I can quote the movie withouteven watching it.
There's a scene in that moviewhere Anna Mae is getting ready
to go and perform on stage withIke for the first time, but
(05:55):
she's nervous.
Yes, that's me.
Okay, right, okay, okay.
So her sister Eileen says go on, anna Mae, you've been
practicing in the bathroomenough, yes, yes, yes.
And then she took the mic andkilled it.
Listen, that's how that was forme.
Wow, like I coached myself,like you got it.
(06:17):
Yeah, you've been practicing inthe bathroom.
Enough, yes, you've beenpracticing behind the scenes.
Enough, go on, you can reallylive this thing out.
You can live, you can be you,yes, and be okay.
You're still saved, still saved, you're still saved.
So now we have to talk about allthe many things that have been
(06:41):
birthed out of you reallydiscovering and walking into
Kareem Gardner, the pamperedpretty, the influencer, the
content creator, the, the, justthe multiple entrepreneur.
Like you, you have your hand ina lot of things and you don't
(07:04):
just have your hands in a lot ofthings just to be doing a lot
of things.
You are successful in thesedifferent things that you've
done.
Now, I got to listen.
You didn't ask me for nocommercial, but I got to tell
y'all listen, this body butterfrom Pepper Pretty, if you don't
have none, you better get some,because it'll keep you.
It get you nice and soft, okay,you know, you know.
(07:27):
And smelling good too.
Okay, all right, amen, uh,that's, that's.
That was the unsolicited uh, uh, uh, commercial.
Okay, pampered, pretty parfaitpraise the lord, get yourself.
Okay, um, praise the lord, soyou've got parfait.
You have shampoo andconditioner tell me about these
things, tell the people aboutand conditioner.
Tell me about these things.
Tell the people about thesethings, because I know about
(07:48):
these things.
Tell the people about them.
Yeah, so I launched a hair careline because I've been natural
since 2010, I want to say, andso I wanted to create my own
product line because of thestrategies that I've created for
myself that helped my hair growand thrive.
(08:08):
You know, I was natural forseven years and then I locked my
hair.
Yes, you did.
You were my inspiration.
One, thank you, one of one oftwo great inspirations.
Uh-huh, thank you, listen.
So I, I was locked for sevenyears and I just recently last
year, in January, it's been ayear I coned out my locks.
My heart was broken, people, myheart was broken.
I was like, no, I mean, herlocks was down here.
(08:31):
I was heartbroken.
Anyway, carry on.
No, you could.
I probably broke a lot ofpeople's heart, but my lock
journey was purposely done.
Okay, and once I felt as thoughI had reached my journey, um of
discovery and loving myself.
Because you know, when you gothrough that phase listen to me,
(08:52):
man you got to really loveyourself, you do.
And because I used to be in themirror like babe, I look okay,
all right, babe, it's okay, thathad to do what it wanted to do,
okay, and you'll be like it,don't go down, like it used to
go down, and it it's over hereand I want it to be over here.
Them early locks yeah, I callit the, the, the beautiful face.
(09:15):
Everybody call it the ugly face.
But looking back on it and whereI was in life, I'm always
evolving.
I don't ever feel as though Ihave arrived.
I always feel like I'm evolvinginto a deeper version of myself
, and so my lock journey was apart of that elevation,
evolution.
And so when I cut my locks, Ifelt, when I combed them out, I
(09:38):
felt like I had reached a placein my journey, that what the
locks were designed to do, I didit, okay.
Okay as far as self-love,self-discovery, getting my
confidence back, all of thethings that people think are
cliche when it comes to the lockjourney, it really is a journey
.
It really is a journey toself-love and appreciation, and
(10:01):
I felt as though I met thatjourney, but along the way, I've
picked up a lot of tips to helppeople and women take care of
their natural hair, so I createda natural hair care line, and
that was a that was a part of myjourney as well.
The Pampered Pretty Parfait isa shea butter based body butter
(10:21):
and hair cream that is designedto, of course, moisturize the
hair and skin, and so that was apart that was the beginning
phases of me evolving.
That was like when 2015, that'sTennessee version of me Notice
that that was not birthed inTexas.
I want to share this becauseand this just fell in my spirit
(10:43):
to share we, when we're tryingto walk out our purpose and be
who God called us to be and liveout dreams, we have to be on
the right soil.
We have to be in the rightplace to do so.
Yes, we have to be under theright leadership to be able to
do that, because it makes thedifference.
(11:04):
Had I tried to birth that inTexas, it would not have
happened.
It would not have happened, soI had to be in the right place,
in the right region, at theright time, doing the right
thing, in order for it to hitthe way that it.
Yes, and then I went on fromthere to now.
I'm content, creating.
(11:25):
Yes, you know what I'm saying.
Yes, I get, I have over 8,000subscribers on my YouTube
channel.
I remember when you had under100, listen, and I and you and
you said, you said I'm going toget to a thousand subscribers.
That's what you said.
And I was like, okay, then, sis, this is all right, and you was
creating, and you was creatingand you was creating and it was
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like every hundred people, youwas like, yeah, at 200.
Yeah, and I ain't gonna lie toyou, I was like I know she's
gonna get there, but I don'tknow how long it's gonna take
her.
But, oh, my goodness, I gotexcited every time you got to
the next hundred, thank you.
And now you are eight thousand,wow.
Well, some people may saythat's not a, that's not a whole
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lot, but it is a lot.
That's a whole big deal.
Listen, that's a whole big dealto be at.
8,000 subscribers, listen, andalmost almost 9,000 subscribers,
9,000 followers on Instagram,wow, wow.
So God is expanding my reach andmy influence, but the only way
that he was able to do that is Ihad to be me, authentically.
You and I have watched youblossom and spread your wings
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and it has really been beautifulto see.
I didn't realize that all thosebeginning years you were still
in the cocoon, I didn't realizethat, oh yeah.
But now that you said it, I cansee it, and I can see Tennessee
you coming out, breaking outthe shell and then, by the time
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listen, by the time y'all leftthere, you was flying, yeah,
yeah, and so you came here.
It was just the Birmingham.
It's just a part of anotherpart of the journey, and I mean
you, you've I feel like you'vealways walked strong in your
ministry calling.
I feel like you've alwayswalked strong in your ministry
calling, but now you're walkingstrong in who God has created
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you to be Totally, and I love it.
Thank you, I love that for youand I love that for me and I
love that for us.
Yes, because the more of usthat begin to walk in our
authenticity, the more otherpeople are free, yeah, the more
other people can see that theycan do it and that is okay.
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God told me that I didn't haveto choose, mmm, that I didn't
have to.
It wasn't salvation or beingwho you are in the marketplace.
God said you don't have tochoose, you can do both.
You can do both, and peoplewill try to box you in yes, they
will and say, no, you need toconcentrate on the ministry,
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don't worry about all that.
But if we don't bring themtogether, how are the
marketplace going to beinfluenced by the God I serve?
Exactly, exactly, so God saidyou don't have to choose, you
can do both and do them well.
And do them Well.
You are, thank you, listen.
So you have.
So you, so you've got thepampered pretty and you are a
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YouTuber and an influencer andrecently I have seen your video,
your style videos, your styleinspo videos, as well as these
scents, honey, and listen, Iain't gonna lie to you, you're
always smelling good.
Okay, you're always smellinggood and I'm like you just be
mixing the things together and Ijust and I'll be like I ain't
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finna do all that, but oh mygosh, she be smelling so good.
Look, y'all believe the hype,she really do be smelling that
good.
When she came home the otherday from a full day of work, I
hugged on her.
I hugged the neck because Ihadn't seen her in a while and I
was like, oh my goodness, shesmells amazing.
She really does smell amazing.
So listen when she tells you todo, when she tells you what you
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need to do to make sure that youlayer in the scents and
everything.
Listen, listen to the woman ofGod.
Listen, because she's trying tohelp you.
She's trying to help you.
We're saying you ain't doingall that, I ain't doing it.
Listen, I got on one fragranceright now, okay, and I only wear
fragrance every day because Idon't have time for all that.
For me, that's like, as I'm inthe shower, I'm thinking about
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the night before.
Really, I'm thinking about whatfragrance am I going to wear
tomorrow?
Really, wow, see, I don't be.
It ain't that deep for me, butI bless God that he is giving it
to you.
You see what I'm saying BecauseI love that you are, you're able
to be authentically you.
You see what I'm saying BecauseI love, I love that you are,
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you're able to be authenticallyyou.
You're able to be authenticallyyou in in the uh, not only in
ministry, but authentically youin your uh, in, in in your um
appearance and authentically youin really every, every aspect
of your life.
So let me, let me, let's, let'sswitch over back to the
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ministry part of it.
So you are a co-pastor, you area um, you're a prophet, you're
a preacher.
Let's talk about that part andhow, how you have been able to
journey, to get to a place whereyou were confident enough to
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walk in, walk out all thosepieces of your calling.
So my husband and I have alwaysbeen in ministry together Since
we got married.
We've always been in ministry,but the beginning of it I was
always referred to as SisterGino Say, who now, oh wow, I
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guess I did call you Gino's wife.
Listen, sister Gino, sisterGino.
And for a while I was okay withthat.
I was good, standing beside myhusband, who was a preacher, a
powerful preacher, come on,still is a powerful preacher,
powerful teacher.
Yes, I was OK with that.
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And to the Lord nudged me andsaid what about you?
You got something.
You ain't just a pretty face,you're not just arm candy, come
on, you got something in yourhead too, like the old people
used to say.
The list said you ain't in yourbelly, ok, people.
You said, listen, you ain't inyour belly, okay, okay.
And so I started tapping intothat thing.
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And then, of course, you know, Iwent to Iraq, preach, did my
thing, came back led praise andworship.
I was a minister of music forabout 12 years, did that
passionately.
I love that, that is my passion, I remember.
And then my pastor startedallowing me to minister because
she knew I had did it over inIraq, yeah, so when I came back
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to the state, she startedallowing me to minister.
So that was Evolution as wellgoing through learning how to
preach the gospel, learning howto do it the way God gave it to
me and not try to sound likeValeria, come on, not using
learned behavior in the pulpit,but using authentic Holy Spirit,
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led word and power that God hasgiven me, and not trying to
sound like or mimic Cheryl Bradyor Juanita Bynum and you know
all the grace that we hear beingokay with being me, yes, and
being okay with it not soundinglike everybody else.
And then when he refined theprophet in me, that was a whole
nother level, I'm sure.
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But see, the prophet was notbirthed in Texas, it was really
actually birthed in Alabama,really, I mean.
But you were walking in theprophetic, you, you, you.
Well, okay, I guess you wasdabbling in it in Tennessee, in
Tennessee, yeah, but so you'resaying that you were, you were
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really I was trying to come togrips with that.
Okay, like I hear, I see, Idream, I have open visions, yeah
, but I'm scared.
I'm scared of what I see.
I'm not to the point where Ican say, but the Lord is saying
well, the Lord wanted me to tellyou.
I wasn't there yet.
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I had to have a coach Shout outto my mentor Come on, the
prophetess Kathy Robinson, allright, all right, come on,
coached me, mentored me into whoyou see today.
Wow, and through Holy Spirit,giving me boldness every time I
declare the word and somebodycome back and say you were spot
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on.
How did you know that?
Yeah, yeah, and I give God theglory, absolutely, absolutely.
And so now I would say, today Iam the most confident in my
gifts that I've ever been.
Hallelujah, most confident, yes, and it almost brings tears to
my eyes.
We had prayer this morning,intercessory prayer this morning
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, with our team, and I just weptbecause God was just speaking
to me so clearly.
Yeah, and I just begin toreflect on God.
I thank you that I'm confidentin who I am and I'm not second
guessing anymore.
Now do I have moments where I'mlike Lord, was that you, my
Lord, was that me or you.
Let me know now before I say it.
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Okay, I'm always walking withcaution with God Because I love
Him and I fear God.
And I don't want with caution.
Yes With God.
Yes, because I love him and Ifeel we should, and I fear God
and I don't want to get it wrong.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm not saying perfect, right,right.
I just don't want to, because Iunderstand that people's lives
are on the line.
I was just about to saypeople's lives are at stake.
They are at stake.
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Okay, I guess I'm asking youare we talking about your life
on the podcast?
I got to talk about that too,father.
So, literally as you're talking, right?
So it has made me reflect on avery recent conversation.
A couple of recent conversationsthat I've had, wow, one with my
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girlfriend that I've known foryears, and one with my sister.
So I was cleaning out my officeabout two months ago and I was
going through.
I'm not the person that cleansand, just you know, throws stuff
out, I'm the one that, well,let's look through this, let's
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look through that.
So I came across some of my oldjournals from probably 15 years
ago.
Wow, I was just reading throughsome of those.
I was like, okay, god, oh, wow,I've come a long way, jesus,
father, listen.
And I came across a passage thatI wrote God has called you as a
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prophet, kareem.
I was like say, who now?
Because I don't remember that,you don't.
But I wrote it down.
Wow, I don't remember that, butI wrote it down Fast forward.
I don't remember that, but Iwrote it down Fast forward.
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I, my, my eldest sister, is hasbeen called to the office of a
prophet, my and two, my twoother sisters.
They have the gift of prophecy.
Now, the gift of prophecy isvery different from the office
of a prophet.
So I knew I, over the years, Iknew that I had the gift of
prophecy, but I don't rememberwriting down that God has called
me as a prophet, right, don't,don't remember that until I'm
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reading it a few months ago.
So I'm talking to my sister, umthe other, a couple of weeks ago
, and she said and and we'rejust, we're talking and I'm
telling her how God isstretching me in all these
different areas and I'm justlike I said, in every area, in
every circle that I'm in, youknow, god is provoking All the
people around me, are provokingme to righteousness, and I was
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like I just, you know, I'm notmad, but I'm just like, really,
god, you just going to stretchme in every area to do
everything and all at the sametime.
That's what we do.
So you know, I'm an intercessorand I, you know, I'm a teacher
of the word of God and I knewthat God had given me the gift
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of prophecy, but I had never, Inever walked in it, like not for
real, for real, like until Igot to where the church that I'm
at now and where you talk about, the, where you're planted, it
matters Right.
So, if I remember, we've beenat this particular ministry for
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probably, I guess, six, five,six years somewhere in there now
and, to be honest with you, Ididn't want to be there.
I didn't want to go therebecause I said, lord, I know too
many people, we know too manypeople.
I want to go somewhere wheredon't nobody know my name.
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They don't want I want to gosomewhere.
I don't want to do nothing, Ijust want to sit.
I don't need to be in nobody'sleadership, I don't even want
them to know that I know how todo nothing.
Okay, and I sat there for awhole year.
But I can remember, even inthat year, very early on, I'm
like I'm I'm remembering this inreal time as I'm talking to you
.
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I remember sitting in the backof the church, because that's
why I like to be in the back.
I don't say I'm like to be upfront, like so he could pay
attention and you know all thethings.
He want to be where the fire is.
I would rather be sitting inthe back and worship was going
on and God spoke to me and saidtell him that it's going to be
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okay.
And I'm like tell who?
And I look, I turn around and Isee the man.
I'm like I don't know this man,I'm not telling him that, tell
him that.
I said it's going to be okay.
And I said I mean, but somebodyelse could tell him.
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I don't, that's how we do.
I don't know why you want me totell him, but even in that
small thing, when I find aboutthe fourth time, he told me
Jesus, you know what.
I went ahead and you know, andat that point I was expecting
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something real fantastic and bigto happen.
You know what I'm saying.
Okay, god, I'm going to tellthe man that you said everything
is going to be okay.
Right, I turned around, Itapped him on the shoulder and I
said God said everything isgoing to be okay.
Right, I turned around, Itapped him on the shoulder and I
said God said everything isgoing to be okay.
And he said okay, I was kind ofdeflated.
You thought he was going tofall out Out of the Holy Spirit.
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That's what I thought was goingto happen.
Okay, that did not happen.
But God was working on myobedience.
And so I see that now you knowwhat I'm saying Me and obedience
.
So I've, I've, I've learned,you know that.
You know obedience is bettersacrifice.
But also I've learned that whenyou're not obedient the first
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time, that is disobedient,absolutely.
And so that was that waschallenging for me.
But to get back to the pointthat I was trying to make right,
because you know I'd just begoing off on tangents, no, you
could.
I didn't remember that until Iread it about the prophet God
called me to be a prophet.
And I'm sitting and I'm talkingto my sister a couple weeks ago
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and she says, well, because Isaid, well, yeah, you know, you
know, god has stretched me inall these areas.
And now they've asked me to,you know, pray at the altar and
stuff, and I don't know what topray.
I'm not that I don't know howto pray for people, because I've
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been praying for people foryears.
Okay, I'm just more comfortableif I know exactly what it is
that you need to be praying, beprayed for, needs to be prayed
for.
So I can, in my mind, hit thetarget Right, but God is showing
me that has its place Right.
But then there's also a timewhere I just need you to depend
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on me, right.
And so I'm, as you were talking.
I'm reminded of the stretch inthis area that I am currently in
and it is very uncomfortable,absolutely.
So that was my very long way ofgetting to the question of how
did you deal with thatuncomfortability and move past
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it?
Or is there a moving past it?
Or is there a moving past it?
There's absolutely a movingpast it.
I think it's just leaning onHoly Spirit, recognizing that
it's not by power, nor by might,but by my spirit, says the Lord
.
So understanding that it's notabout us.
This walk that we walk is aselfless walk, and us being
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uncomfortable is all a part ofthe territory, because if we
were comfortable then we wouldthink it's us.
Now, that's true, we'll beconfident in our own ability.
But I always tell people whenyou're nervous, that's a good
sign.
Now you sound like my mama,when you feel like I don't know
about that.
Lord, now you're cooking.
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But when you ever get up therelike, oh, I got this, I'm finna,
kill them, I'm finna, kill thisword.
The people are gonna die.
Finna, get this word.
Now, you in the flush.
Now you in the flush, sit ondown.
That ain't God.
Because a prophet told me many,many years ago.
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She said and this is aprophetic word that I got and
it's gonna connect.
She didn't know me from Adam'sTom Camp, yeah.
But she said God has called youto be a prophet, but your gift
is not for the house that you'rein.
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I was in Texas at the time.
Wow.
And she said and when Godbegins to use you, if you have
to think, it's not prophecy, hmm, well, okay then if you're
spending time trying to thinkabout what you're finna say or
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what you're getting ready.
That's not prophecy.
Wow, I train our prophets atthe church.
Well, the people with the giftof prophecy at our church.
If you're thinking god ain'tspeaking, yeah, yeah, that's.
That's your own understanding,that's you, yeah.
So for me, the uncomfortabilitywas almost like comfort in
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knowing that God, god got it.
Wow, I'm leaning on Holy Spiritbecause I don't know what to
tell these people.
I am clueless.
Listen, maybe some Sundays Iget up and I'll be saying, while
I'm getting dressed for church,and I'm literally telling me I
don't have anything to say today.
I wish you could hear my innerdialogue.
It's on Sunday mornings.
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I'm not saying nothing, I'm noteven going to.
Am I going to work all day?
Yeah, I'm going to get up therebecause I'm going to help the
man of God.
I'm going to help the man ofGod, but I don't have it.
I just feel like I really don'thave anything to say.
Doesn't mean today's?
God used me the most Because Ibe feeling like I don't have
nothing to say, because I don'tknow what to tell people, and I
get in that atmosphere and Godstart and I start seeing and
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hearing.
I'm like whoa, whoa and peopleat the altar and they're
standing and Apostle G ispraying for them and the Holy
Spirit would give me a word forthat person in the moment and
I'm like, okay, and what I loveabout the way that we operate in
ministry we always hold spacefor each other.
Okay, it's never been acompetition with he and I.
Yeah, because we realize thatwe have separate giftings and we
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have separate callings, but wework so well together and it's
not like, okay, I'm the dominantgift.
It's not that it's never beenjealous, he's trying to squish
my gift.
We work so well together andI'm always so grateful when he
opens up space for me.
There's never a moment inministry where he's like, all
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right, I'm the only one that gotthe word.
You know, I'm the pastor.
It's never that, and I'm sograteful that the men in our
ministry get to see that inaction.
It's important because in thisregion it is a very male
dominated region where the womenthey just most of them sit and
look pretty on Sunday morningand I can do that.
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Listen, yes, you can do it verywell.
Yes, you can, but heunderstands the fire in my belly
, he understands the anointingthat's on my life and he opens
space in every situation, everyaltar call, every time we're in
a ministry situation.
You got anything?
I mean, I've seen it, I've seenit in action and I love to see
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it, thank you.
And it is a blessing to be ableto witness, because not
everybody has that sametestimony.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
There are some spaces where,whether it's the male, the man
or the woman, mm-hmm, I'm theone that God doesn't call,
mm-hmm, man or the woman, I'mthe one that God doesn't call.
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And you just support, you ain'tgot nothing.
I got it Right.
And it's like, wait a minute.
And what I love and what I seeall the time is and I'm going to
say this to the women a womanthat is fulfilled is a happy
woman.
Come on, say that again for thepeople in the back is a happy
woman.
Come on, say that again for thepeople in the back when a woman
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is fulfilled, we can operate atour greatest capacity.
When we are fulfilled Absolutelyand I can't be, I wouldn't be
fulfilled if I couldn't beeverything that God has called
me to be, if I had to choose, orif I had to come in church and
be silent.
Right, right, right and listen,I'm going to tell you this
early in my marriage, I thoughtthat that's what I had to do.
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I thought that I had to comedown, bring myself down so that
I could push him up because he'sthe, he's the leader, right?
He's the this, he's the that,and and although although he is
the leader and he should, he isthe head, because that's where
God has called him to be thatdoes not mean that I'm supposed
to push myself down.
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And he even would say to mewhere is the?
Like?
We had a frank conversation likeearly in our marriage, probably
a year, two or three, becausewe were just like this, this
ain't what we thought it wasgoing to be, like, this is kind
of trash, like you know, likethe marriage was not great.
And we had a conversation oneday and it was like, and I was
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like well, I'm not doing this,this and this, because you know
I'm trying to help you do this,this, this.
And he was like I didn't askyou to do that, that poet.
I never asked you to do that,that poet.
I never asked you to do that.
In fact, I was looking for theperson that I dated for them
three years.
That disappeared when we gotmarried and I was like, say what
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now?
Say that again.
I had thought that submissionmeant I have to dumb myself down
or I have to push myself downso that he can be great.
That's not what that means.
That's not what that means atall At all.
And all that, get and getunderstanding and a real man
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will tell you that's not whatthat means.
Come on, come on.
A real man will push you toyour fullest potential and allow
you to evolve.
Yes, gino tells the story allthe time.
He said Kareem becomes a newwoman every year.
He told not one lie.
Wow, I evolve every.
It's feel like every six months, I really do wow, and and it's
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not like a, it's not a bad thing, it's just God, god grows me in
different areas and I starttapping into different passions
that I have.
And what I love about beingmarried to Gino is he allows me
to do that.
Yes, he creates space for me tobe and evolve and create and try
stuff.
You know, because we'readventurous.
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Yes, anybody that can pick uptheir family and move to another
state uh, more than once anddon't know a soul in the state
listen, that's adventurous.
And so the fact that I've.
I've done real estate, I'm inreal estate, I'm in my master's
program now.
I do content creating, I'veworked at sephora all the things
that I'm passionate about, andI'm t I'm a first grade teacher.
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Now right him open, not tryingto say now you're doing too much
.
Now you need to pick one thingand you know what I'm saying and
set out, and set out somewherebe a good wife.
He does not.
I'm so grateful that I have aman that says go get it, yes,
same, same I.
I have a man that says go getit, yes, same, same.
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I have to say my husband hasalways encouraged me.
I love it.
He's always pushed me to be thebest that I can be.
Anything I ever told him Iwanted to do, he was like you
should do it, come on and youcan do it.
And recently we've been throughour ups and downs, but recently
he said to me he was like youknow, I, even when I wasn't this
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is what he said to me Even whenI wasn't trying to do anything
myself, I always wanted you tobe the best that you could be,
be the best that you could be.
He was like, even though I knowI wasn't being the best man or
the best husband.
He was like I still wanted youto flourish and to win and to
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grow.
And when I look back over ourentire marriage, he ain't lied,
he ain't lied.
And so I was like, well, dang,I mean, but I've been wanting
you to be the best that you canbe.
And I mean, but I've beenwanting you to be the best that
you can be.
And I mean, as of the last fewyears, he has grown into being
and flourished into being allthat he can be, and now he's
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walking it out.
Yes, but I think about, and Ican't live in regret, but I
think about what?
If I had shown up earlier as myauthentic self and not pushed
myself down, where would we be?
Wow, had I walked in myauthenticity early on in the
marriage.
But you know, I didn't.
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It's okay, I made a differentchoice, but I'm doing it now,
but you're doing it now, butyou're doing it now.
And I can see how God is movingin our marriage as I step into
all that God has called me to beLike for real, for real, the
more I step into it, the more hesteps into it, right, right,
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and I'm just like, well, wow,it's like a partnership.
Yes, you know, gino and I havebeen married.
I was 19 and he was 21 when wegot married, so we literally
been together long.
We've been together longer thanwe've been without each other.
Yes, yes, and we literally grewup together.
Yes, in the literal sense.
And it's so funny to thinkabout because, thinking about
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those early years and who wewere then and who we are now,
yeah, I said, oh lord, oh baby,I'm so glad, listen, I'm so glad
that that God turned it.
Listen, because I was a fool.
Can I be honest?
You can be honest, can I?
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Can I be honest?
I was crazy, I was, was crazy,but thanks be unto God, oh God.
And I think about both of ourjourney to who we are today and
how we've matured, how wecommunicate now.
You know what I'm saying andhow we say okay, remember, I
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used to.
Yeah, I remember that.
I ain't like that.
Listen, that was whack.
You know what I'm saying.
I was almost.
I ain't like that.
Listen, that was whack.
You know, I was almost out ofhere.
Glad you got delivered, gladyou got that together, because
she's about to be homeless.
You know what I'm saying, stufflike that.
Yes, so I think we evolvedtogether.
Yes, as as couples you knowwhat I'm saying.
When you got the right one, itdoesn't matter if we weren't
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able to be our authentic self.
It's okay, because the journeycontinued and they created space
until we got ourselves together.
Come on, I created space forhim to gather himself.
He created space for me togather myself.
I think that's all a part oflove and grace with your partner
and being able to see them attheir worst, but being able to
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see them at their best.
I'm looking at you at yourworst, but I can see the best in
you Because it's listen.
Okay, now we need to.
I was about to turn the cornerso we could shut the thing down,
but, baby, listen, listen.
We need to talk about, we needto talk about listen.
We need to talk about thismarriage piece and how it is our
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responsibility as the wife tospeak life, listen, and I
learned listen.
I learned a piece of that fromyou.
Praise the Lord, listen,because you were speaking life
out in these streets and Ididn't see it.
I'm going to tell you thatright now.
Let me, is this camera on?
I didn't see it, but I spoke ittill I saw it.
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Listen, you was out in thesestreets speaking life and I said
, I said, oh, I said I don'tknow that, I said about mine,
but uh, you know, uh.
But I saw the potential.
Listen, I know, don't get mewrong.
I saw what you could be.
I saw what he could be, but Iwas like, but he ain't God, I
(41:39):
don't see it.
I mean, I see what he can be.
Why he don't see it?
And cause I wasn't speaking it.
I w I wasn't speaking what Isaw.
Now, look now, you.
Look now.
You got me going back to theprophet.
See, you got to start at home.
Yeah, if I can't call out whatI see in my house, how am I
(42:03):
going to go outside the house,that part and prophesy to
somebody else.
Come on, oh God, help me, holyGhost, let me share this with
you.
Somebody else.
Come on, oh God, help me, holyghost, let me share this with
you.
I can remember when Gino was aspecialist in the United States,
uh-huh.
And I can remember saying youwon't be that long, hmm, see,
(42:29):
that doesn't fit who you are.
So I saw the bigger picture.
I saw him at his rank that hewas when he retired.
Come on Also, when Gino wascutting grass, come on, working
at bills, uh-huh, like in hissong, strapping Just to Make the
Ends Meet, strapping Just toMake the Bills.
Let that, let that.
I saw him as the wealthy manthat he is today, come on.
(42:54):
So I knew it was only going tobe a matter of time before he
stepped into that full potential, the job that he has now.
I already saw that 15 years ago.
Wow, didn't know how it wascoming.
I said now, lord, I need you tohurry up, listen, come on, jesus
, manif.
Come on, jesus, bring it tomanifest your word, manifest
(43:15):
this right now.
But God said, no, I'm not goingto manifest it yet because
there's still some things in youthat I need to do.
Listen, we got to get up offhere.
Okay, I listen, listen, we got,we got, cause, cause we about
to go a whole nother hour and we, we, we listen, we, I'm gonna
have to have you back.
Yes, ma'am, on the podcast, I'mgonna have to have you and your
husband, okay, together on thepodcast, cause, listen, we got
(43:37):
some stuff to talk about that'sgoing to help the people.
Yes, cause we, we have helpedthe people today.
I'm telling you I'm not got tocut this interview off, cause we
gonna be here all night and Iand we, we got some other things
to do.
So, but I listen, let's, let's,let's, let's tie that, wrap
this up and tie this in a bow.
(43:58):
And if you had to give advice toa woman who was trying to
understand or discover who sheis and who she is in God, what
would you speak to her?
What would you say?
(44:19):
I would say God has given youeverything you need to be
successful.
It's already on the inside ofyou and he's waiting on you to
discover it.
Come on, he's not going toallow outside influences to tell
you who you are.
I know you're waiting onsomebody to say hey, you're
(44:41):
called, you're anointed, you'rea prophet, you're an evangelist,
you're a teacher.
God is not going to allow,because he has.
You have to trust what he saysabout you.
His word concerning you is true, yes, and he wants to know that
you trust him and what hethinks and what he says about
you.
Dig deep.
Everything you need is alreadyon the inside of you.
(45:05):
Be confident that he that hasbegun a good work in you is able
to perform it.
Come on, you got this Girl wewon.
Come on Listen, listen and onthat note, listen.
Girl, we won.
We are going to wrap up thisPreston's Purpose podcast
(45:27):
episode.
I just want to say thank you,thank you, thank you.
Podcast episode.
I just want to say thank you,thank you, thank you.
Prophetess, pastor,entrepreneur, influencer,
corrine, wife, mother, daughter,sister, friend, corrine Gardner
, thank you so much for joiningme today.
Thank you so much for your yes,thank you for being
(45:49):
authentically you.
Thank you for having thecourage yes, to step out and be
all that God has called you tobe.
Because you've done that, nowother people can see that they
can do it too.
So listen, we will see y'allnext time on Preston to Purpose.
Until then, continue to beblessed.
Today's episode is brought toyou by Destiny Film and Media.
(46:13):
Go to destinyfam1.com for allyour media needs.
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