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November 17, 2025 66 mins

This week on Pretty Furious, Mallory Hagan & Maggie Gehlsen-Burnett welcome back Caroline Stout, former Turning Point USA staff member and friend of the pod! We discuss life BC (before Charlie) and AC (after Charlie), his assassination’s impact on the country, Erika Kirk (and her whack as hell IG posts), and obviously, that insane pleather-laced hug between her and ol’ James David Vance.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Context of the Incident

22:00 Reactions to Charlie Kirk’s Death

24:46 The Opportunistic Nature of Grief

27:30 The Duality of Personal Relationships

30:11 Public Perception and Influence

33:05 The Role of Erica Kirk

36:10 Debate and Rhetoric in Public Discourse

39:01 The Aftermath and Media Representation

46:19 The Incitement of Political Violence

48:08 Opportunism in Political Narratives

49:13 The Aftermath of Elections and Political Gains

50:47 Conspiracy Theories and Political Deaths

53:35 Turning Point USA and the Grooming of Youth

55:12 Feminism and the Right’s Perspective

57:46 The Role of Algorithms in Shaping Views

59:56 The Dynamics of JD Vance and Erica Kirk

01:04:38 Contradictions in Political Ideologies

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