Episode One: No, not that one

Well it's our first episode and we thought we'd just let it rip.

We talk about our hopes for this podcast and a little about ourselves.

We cover Marvel's newest flick - Captain America: Brave New World.

With some spoiler free content followed by some more spoilery stuff based on what we thought of the latest instalment.

Finally, we hash over a handful of new Movies and Television that we're excited for that are due out this year.

Join us as we attempt to stay on topic and chat all things Pop Culture.

Episode Transcript

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From the Dungeons of Morningstar, my name's Clint.

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And my name's Stretch, and this is Prevailing Strange.
So, mate, our first episode.
It's been a couple of weeks that we've been working flat out in here.

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Yeah, it has taken a while to come to fruition.
Come out of a, come out of left field, you hit me up, you go, I want to do a podcast.
You can talk shit underwater with a mouth full of marbles.
But dude, I'm so excited to be here and doing this with you, especially.
Yeah, it's going to be an interesting thing going forward.

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But I kind of hope it becomes a thing, but this is more just for fun, really.
It is, man.
Yeah.
Just building the studio with you has been fun.
So this is just going to be the jam on the peanut butter sandwich.

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Yeah, it'll be, it'd be quite nice if we find some people that enjoy this.
Yeah.
I like talking to you anyway.
Yeah.
So I'll do it whether there's cameras or not.
We actually went and seen a movie last night as research.
We did.
We went and seen Captain America Brave New World.

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And I'm sure we'll talk about that later on.
Talk about that in a bit.
Okay.
But I don't know, maybe we can talk about what would kind of make us different.
Like we both enjoy pop culture.
We both enjoy comics, a lot of the same things, but at the same time, those similarities do

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differ.
I enjoy a lot of things.
You have a more discerning eye.
Yeah, that's true.
You probably like things a little bit more lighthearted where I'm a little bit more serious.
Except Madame Web.
I think we both agree on that, that that was a steamy hot pile of garbage.
True.
I haven't even seen it, but true.
You're more DC.

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Batman.
Yeah.
I love my Batman.
I'm probably more of a Marvel fan.
MCU, I have a DCEU.
Absolutely.
100%.
Absolutely.
Even the worst Marvel MCU shows, movies, shit all over anything coming to DCEU, except for
Wonder Woman.
Wonder Woman was a shining light.

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I did like Wonder Woman.
The first one, not 84.
That was again, a train wreck.
The longer I go, the more I do enjoy like Man of Steel.
I loved Man of Steel.
But even Batman versus Superman, to begin with, I thought that was going to be a horrible
idea.

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Yeah.
I think the choice of Batman was in the start, I was like, holy shit, what have they done?
And then as soon as I heard that voice modulator, when he on the trail, he's like that final
berry butter bar, final berry butter bar, and I'm like, okay.
Yeah.
100%.

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100%.
But it didn't blow me out of the water.
But that whole, do you bleed?
Yeah.
Well, dude.
It's probably one of the only ones I'd go back and watch.
Yeah.
Wouldn't touch Flash with a 10 foot pole.
I would if they edited down to where it was just Michael Keaton.

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If it was just Michael Keaton, I'll watch that five, seven minutes where he's in it,
I'll watch that.
But no.
Yeah.
So I guess first we're going to talk about Captain America and Brave New World.
Now, are we going to dip some spoilers?
It has been out for nearly a fortnight.

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It has.
I'm thinking maybe we might do a little spoiler free to begin with, and we'll just timestamp
it where you can skip forward.
And we'll do a big professional overlay of spoilers and shit and no explosions.
I've only got the weekend to edit this.
We do.
We'll do a bit of a more in-depth and what happened and what we thought about particular

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aspects.
Yeah.
There was one doozy.
We'll talk about that later.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So Anthony Mackie comes back to play Sam Wilson.
Charming as shit.
Yeah.
I think he's done an excellent job doing that role.
It's kind of good to see him without spoiling anything kind of conflicted with his role as

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Captain America.
Yeah.
And kind of how he has to find his...
His method of doing things without being a super soldier with powers.
He can't be Steve Rogers.
No.
Anthony Mackie, charming as shit.
Can't be Steve Rogers.
Can't be Chris Evans.

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And I like the fact that he doesn't try to be.
No, that's right.
He's doing his own role.
Yeah.
His own take.
I think Harrison Ford was a fun and great choice to replace William Hurt.
Honestly dude, I think they nailed that.
I honestly don't think there could have been a more compelling Thunderbolt Ross and the

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transformation into the Hulk at the end.
No spoilers, everybody knows this.
Is for me, one of the best Hulk transformations I've seen.
Absolutely.
The VG was phenomenal.
I mean, don't get me wrong, the Mark Ruffalo transformation in the first Avengers, I'm
always angry cat.
And he punches that fucking, that worm.

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Leviathan.
The Leviathan.
Awesome.
Oh, blew me away.
Yep.
And just the whole slow motion of it.
But for me, Harrison Ford as the Red Hulk looked phenomenal.
It did seem to be a return to form for the CGI.

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Absolutely.
It was a pretty star-studded cast with Anthony Mackie, Harrison Ford, the return of some
people we're not going to talk about just yet.
Harrison Ford can't be cheap.
No.
Holy shit, that bloke was for Star Wars.
He was in three scenes in episode seven and I think he got paid like $15 million or something

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a day.
I don't think that's real.
I think I just made that number up.
I thought it had heart.
Yes, absolutely.
Enough heart, not fully heartfelt.
It had the cast and had some sensational action.
Oh dude, yeah.
What would you give it out of five stars?
I think after all the shit that's been going on Disney Plus, I think this was a dead set

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return to form.
I was a fan of the Falcon and Winter Soldier.
I liked that show.
I thought it was funny.
I thought it had heart as well.
Anthony Mackie again, charming as shit going back to his crawl fish and days.
Buggy Barnes trying to sleaze onto his hot sister.
Hilarious.
I legit think it was an absolutely entertaining film.

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I would dead set give it a solid four stars.
Personally, as much as I am a fan of comic book movies, I can't rate a comic book movie
on a scale that I would rate other movies.
I think I would have to have a comic book movie scale, superhero movie scale, and I

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would have to have a movie scale.
Yeah, okay.
All right, I got you.
Because they're completely different.
You can't put Enistella up against this.
No, not at all.
I think I'd give it a three and a half stars.
Nice, solid.
It's good.
It's above average.
It's good.
It's not great.
It's not end game.

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It's not much can be.
Yeah.
It's solid, though.
Absolutely.
I agree with you.
Okay.
As for a spoiler filled breakdown, the elephant in the room.
Yes.
There is no way.
No way.
That Sam could have caught that flagpole.

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No.
It went through a fucking brick chimney on the White House and let's face it, the White
House isn't built shoddily.
It's not made out of plaster of Paris.
That shit's secure.
That pole went through it and didn't dint or bend and Sam Wilson caught it midair, being
swung by the Hulk.
Considering the Red Hulk looked pretty fucking strong.

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Did you notice the scale changed?
The more and more he got angry?
Chef's kiss.
Loved it.
And did you notice that, so when he was in amongst the rose petals or no, the cherry
blossoms, when they were touching his skin, they were burning?
He's letting off that heat like he does in the comics.
I was hoping for the flame hair, but can understand why they never went.

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I think that in a movie, I think that would have cheapened it a little, but when his clothes
were burning off.
The fact that he kept his pants while strategically placed.
I mean, if you're going to get hot, but no, they stayed true.
And yeah, that was pretty cool in the transformation where it wasn't just the clothes tearing off,
they actually burnt off.

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But it was pretty cool to see those little touches.
I agree.
I like how well the leader was manipulating the whole situation.
Yeah.
And speaking of the leader, I think some people were disappointed he didn't have the comic
book accurate big brain on him.
Not me, man.

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If it was, I would have been just sitting there going, mega mind.
Like it just would have put me in that hole.
Will Farrell should have been this guy.
Yeah.
No, I did appreciate it, especially because it was a throwback to the Incredible Hulk.
Yeah.
Edward Norton's foray as the Hulk, the Incredible Hulk.
At the end where the leader.

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Didn't he get knocked down onto the floor and then the gamma started dripping into a
wound on his head?
Oh yes, that might have been it.
So he got thrown to the floor during the Hulk foray at the university.
And as he's hit the deck, he had a big wound on his head and it started leaking in and
he just seemed, his head starts going like a gremlin.

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And he just smiled at the camera and that was it.
Yeah.
When he was in the dark and the cats, I think.
Yeah.
It's pretty cool.
I did enjoy that.
Yeah, I can see why some people who maybe are especially big Hulk fans and therefore
his roster of villains that they're fans of as well.

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I can see why they'd be upset by that, but I think it worked perfectly for what the MCU
was working with.
I liked that it didn't just have a bulbous head for the sake of having a bulbous head.
It was just the fact that his brain had grown so large, it had beaten the constraints of

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his skull.
And the fact that the whole way through what he's saying, yes, the probabilities of this,
I've analyzed the probability of that.
I know this to a certain degree, to a certain percentage.
I think, what was his name?
Stan Stearns?

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Stearns, I believe.
Stearns, yeah.
I think he was a good villain, man.
I think he was a good villain.
Yeah, I thought so too.
He was in the shadows, literally and figuratively, pulling strings.
Kind of something that maybe Marvel has been missing for a while, where most of their big

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bads are out in the open, they're doing things where everyone can see them.
It was good to kind of have a lower tier.
And more of an espionage sort of thriller sort of thing, like, oh, there's something
happening with the presidency.
It's like, there's backdoor deals getting done.

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Another villain that was put in, it was added after the movie had finished.
Jean-Carlo Esposito as Sidewinder.
Yes.
Brutal, brutal.
No bullshit take of just a bloke out.
And he even says to Sam Wilson countless times, like, the next time we face each other, you're

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not going to walk away, I'm going to kill you.
It's not like the Joker and Batman was, oh, I need you.
I need you.
We have to be together.
I'm never going to kill you.
I am excited to see where he might pop up in the future.
I think he might be a reoccurring character.
I wish he was our, I wish, dude, I wish he was our Professor Xavier.
Dude, I mentioned that last night.

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That's going to be an interesting thing in the future.
Who's going to play Professor X?
If they go that route and bring back that cast or whether they try and introduce a whole
new slate of X-Men without Professor X.
Well, I think it's going to Battleworld, we're definitely going to have to, if we do go to

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Battleworld in Doomsday, I think if we do do that, I say we like, we're going to direct
it.
We're not, guys, we're not the directors of Doomsday.
We're going to watch it though.
We're going to watch the dick out of that movie, dude.
I think you're going to have to bring back the whole old X cast, the ones that are still
here.

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Just for fan service and just for service to them actors, whether it's the McAvoy cast
or whether it's the X1, X2, X3 cast.
I think you're going to have to have that connection to bring them forward because they've
earned their stripes, dude.
I think there was four Dark Phoenix Saga's movies.

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First Class, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix.
Was there a second one in there?
Days of Future Past.
Days of Future Past.
How could you forget that one?
I love that movie.
That was so good.
So four.
That's just one of my favourite Days of Future Past.
The opening scene?
Yeah, dude.
So yeah, where the Sentinels are coming through and killing everyone dude.

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Sensational.
So the four of them, they've had the same amount of movies that the X cast have had.
There's a few more.
Yeah, they have because there was only X1, X2, X3 and then there was X-Men Wolverine.
So they've had three, the new cast had four.
Now the old cast did come in to Days of Future Past and that of course you'd have to.

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But I think you're going to have to have just to give them to say, hey guys, you started,
basically started this.
There was Blade and the X-Men movies that actually gave everybody an idea that a comic
book movie could actually succeed.
So I think without, I think have gone into the future, you're going to have to have those

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there at least as a flashback or a tap back.
It's just to say, hey, we've come from here, we're here now.
Well I think they're some of the biggest fan favourite moments.
Absolutely.
Think about Deadpool and Wolverine when Chris Evans turns up as Human Torch.
It's sensational.
We had the returning cast of Blade, Elektra, Gambit, well no, he didn't return.

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That was another meme.
Do you know how long he's been campaigning to be Gambit?
Over 10 years dude.
Wild.
And he finally did it.
Yeah.
And it worked.
It could, absolutely.
But what I mean in meme wise, he never actually had that role to begin with.

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They brought him in off the love of the fucking character.
It was the fact that he'd campaigned for it so long.
Yeah, well he was actually slated to write and he was going to have a directing partner
for the Gambit movie.
And then he had to go off and make, while they greenlit the Gambit movie, G.I.

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Joe, The Rise of Cobra came out and he'd signed on to do that and like, we're filming
this.
And he's like, shit, shit.
And they're like, no, we've got to do it now.
X-Men Wolverine is now, we have to do it now.
So he's like, I've already signed on for this G.I.
Joe movie.
So they got re-wrote, placed by Taylor Kitsch.
So that's how long this goes back.
He was Gambit back then.

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And it was just Brian Reynolds tapping on my shoulder and go, bro, you deserve this
shit.
Come and play.
And he played.
And he played since same shit all day.
The comic book accurate costume alone was perfect.
The fact that he couldn't move his head was quite hilarious.
Batman didn't do it for 20 years, bro.

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Even like, if I do a tattoo on the neck, I literally say, you're going to be Batman for
the next two weeks.
Because you can't move your neck.
Fan service, dude.
We're the ones paying the tickets to get in.
Fucking show me some shit I love.
Absolutely.
That Wolverine costume.

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You go back before Iron Man.
No one had comic accurate.
No.
There was nothing.
They had black leather.
They were bikers.
They even made fun of it in the first X-Men movie.
What do you expect me to wear, yellow spandex?
You put Hugh Jackman in that yellow costume.
You've sold me a ticket already.

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You put Wolverine in that movie.
You've sold me a ticket already.
Fan service.
Absolutely.
You bring these old characters back that we love.
John Krasinski.
Has missed the fantastic.
Another meme casting basically.
Exactly.
That's what I call them, meme castings.
He turned around as Mr. Fantastic.

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He looked so good.
Even Black Bolt in that movie.
I love Black Bolt.
When he's got Doctor Strange in front of him and everyone just covers their ears and then
he just speaks and then Doctor Strange disintegrates.
Bro, finally I can sit.
I'll watch the Inhumans.

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He doesn't fucking speak the entire time.
Oh really?
That one scene where you see the absolute power of Black Bolt is like, holy shit, yes,
give me more.
I want to see Black Bolt more.
When we were talking about the Illuminati last night, I'd love to see some more Illuminati

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brought into the other ones.
Whether it's that version of Black Bolt or not, I want to see some more Black Bolt.
The comic book costumes are really just chef's kiss man, they're killing it.
It's shown that it can be done.
As ridiculous as some costumes are, it can be done.

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It pays off.
Polka dot man.
He wore a fucking polka dot costume, dude.
But when that motherfucker was throwing polka dots at people and they were exploding, yes.
Peacemaker wearing a toilet seat as a head killed it.
Another thing I was surprised about was Sabra.
Yes, dude.

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That was cool.
I never thought we would get any more Red Room.
Widows.
Widows.
And to see just another one pop up happens to be in American government.
And again, that hallway fight scene that they're in, spoilers.
Throwback to the original Black Widow in the first Iron Man movie.

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Dude, killed it.
Loved it.
Give me more fan service.
We're the ones paying the tickets.
Fucking why not?
Loved it.
Absolutely fantastic.
It was good to see Isaiah Bradley's character come back.
I love his character.
I do.

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The introduction of Adamantium.
Okay.
I was a bit fuddled at the fact that they've mentioned Adamantium here.
It's messed up my timeline.
At the moment, they're just acknowledging Adamantium in 2025.

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In the 70s is when Wolverine was getting experimented on with Adamantium.
They would have had to learn how to refine that earlier than the 70s.
Because once Adamantium is in solid form, the comic books tell us that it can't be unrefined.
You have to actually find it in its liquid form and then forge it into a solid state.

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Well, they called it the raw form in this.
It's raw form.
Right.
Okay.
So it can be refined down maybe.
Refined and worked.
I am curious whether this will be the introduction, advent of a younger Wolverine.

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There's been rumours, fan castings of Daniel Radcliffe, Taron Edgerton, a few younger gentlemen.
If you could cast any Wolverine, who would it be?
For me, I've got two.

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Daniel Radcliffe, fucking give him some roids and jack him up a bit.
But even then, that muscle suit of the yellow one in Deadpool and Wolverine was sensational.
Pumpy bumps and muscles, it's fine.
And Zac Efron.
See, I like Daniel Radcliffe because he's a little bit shorter.

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I agree.
But as we've seen, a comic accurate Wolverine is quite short and petite.
I don't know if he's petite, but he's short.
He's a short king.
Definitely a short king.
He's a little nugget, I think.
Zac Efron's not overly tall.
He's not short though.
He's a little bit shorter than Hugh Jackman, which is not Wolverine accurate.

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Daniel Radcliffe can act, dude.
I've watched him act as a dead body.
I've seen the Swiss Army man.
Daniel Radcliffe playing a dead body, killed it.
Killed it.
What a bizarre role.
He's had some bizarre roles.
Dude, Guns of Kimbo.
Have you seen Guns of Kimbo?
I've seen bits of it.
I haven't watched it.
Dude, he's got guns attached to his hands that he can't get off.

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And it's just him running around in a bathrobe.
Speaking about Daniel Radcliffe and Harry Potter, did you see that John Lithgow has
been cast as Dumbledore?
No.
In the TV series.
He's American.
I did think that to begin with.
Sacrilege.
But he does have a bit of an accent.
Oh, wow, that was terrible.

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Cut that.
Nope.
Shit.
He does have a bit of an accent though.
I like it.
Yeah, he has a twang, maybe a quality about his voice that could probably lend to a British
accent pretty well.
But not overly old, if you have a look at our Dumbledore's of the past, they were quite
old when they were cast in the role.

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I think, what did he say today?
I read that he was kind of surprised about receiving the role.
On the wrap party, he will be in his 80s.
He's pretty old, dude.
But yeah, cast you Wolverine.

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Oh man.
Okay, here we go.
Remember when we went and seen Kevin Smith at the Opera House?
Yeah.
And it was literally, this is what it's going to be like.
Yeah.
I will probably blurt something out further on in this show.

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It'll just be left field and I will probably think of something.
Okay.
Okay.
A slate of new movies and television is coming out this year.
I'm pretty excited for it.
There's a lot to look forward to.
Yeah, absolutely.

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I think you were particularly interested in Reacher, which is out now.
Oh, dude.
Please, please, please.
Mr. Gunn, if you're watching this, please, please cast him as Batman.

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I want him as Batman.
I need him as Batman, dude.
He's a big dude.
There's a dude in this new season that towers over him.
I think I've seen the shorts though, yeah.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
Reacher is a show that just keeps giving.
The second season was a bit slow.
I wasn't a fan of the whole team up, but it was still good.

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How does it keep on giving?
He's a very straightforward character who, if there's something in his way, he's going
to kill it.
Because he's a big dude.
He's a psychopath.
A true blue psychopath to the literal thing where if there's someone trying to kill him

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and he has the drop on them, he's not going to try to knock them out.
He's going to shoot them in the back.
It's me or him.
That's specifically it.
He was in the armed forces.
He was in the army.
He don't give a fuck, dude.
He will literally take anyone out that's going to get in his way, hurt his team or hurt him.

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He doesn't give a shit.
When he works with cops and the cops go, why is there a dead body?
He goes, oh, he was in my way.
There's a scene where he's putting three bodies into the boot of this car, two of which he
killed.

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How does he do?
He couldn't fit the last guy in.
He's like, oh, I could just put him in the back seat.
No, no, no, no.
He just drops an old man's knees and folds it backwards on itself.
Then a cop asks him, she's like, what happened to his leg?
He goes, oh no, I did that after.
He wouldn't fit in the trunk.

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A cop says to him, ever since you've come here, there's four bodies.
He goes, well, actually there's seven.
You just haven't found the other ones yet.
It's just phenomenal.
Eye candy up to the tits, dude.
This guy with his shirt off makes me want to turn.
I am serious.
You are wearing a pink shirt.

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Alan Richson, dude, with pride.
Alan Richson, holy shit, dude.
Now season one, massive dude.
You see anything you're looking at?
Holy shit, you are incredible.
You were donnis, you dead set specimen.
Right.
Season two, he put on 20 kilos of muscle.

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20.
That's pretty big.
I have seen that movie, the Reacher movie, who played Reacher?
Tom Cruise.
That's right.
I love Tom Cruise as an actor.
Don't get me wrong.
There was a lot of complaints about his size, how he didn't compare to the books, how it

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wasn't quite accurate.
The books are great.
I listen to audio books and the narrator and audible is just terrible.
Everyone else needs to read them books.
The movies, if it wasn't Jack Reacher, would have been good.
If it wasn't called Reacher, it would have been good.

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In the books, in the very first chapter, in the very first interaction with any human,
they go, holy shit, are you a mutant?
You are the biggest human I've ever seen.
It is said countless times in every book.
Not just the first book, in every book that come out after it.

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Everyone alludes to the size of this man, that he doesn't blend in, that he is Jack
beyond all recognition and that he could crush people's heads with his hand.
Tom Cruise can't do that.
He was a tall dude when he played Aquaman in Smallville.
He was a big dude in Aquaman and he was 19.
He's worked on that physique.

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Just a little.
A little.
He's done a lot of pharmaceutical enhancements.
Just maybe.
Definitely.
Most definitely.
So it's on Amazon?
It is on Amazon, yeah.
Absolutely incredible.
Three episodes out currently.
Well, four now.
The other episode dropped yesterday.
Right, there you go.
Four episodes on Amazon now.
I thoroughly recommend it.
I thoroughly recommend it.
It's no Ted Lasso, but I thoroughly recommend it.
Right.
Daredevil, Born Again.

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Yes.
Yes, please.
Comes out on the fourth.
Dude, three days.
Day after this airs.
We'll be talking about that on Friday.
I think so.
Because I think they're going to drop three episodes straight up as well.
I am excited for this.

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I'm much excited.
The original Daredevil series on Netflix was, I think, a game changer.
Popped here.
And now that Marvel has it back, the slate of characters or villains that seem to be
appearing, just judging by the trailers, looks incredible.

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Yeah.
We have White Tiger, we have Muse, Kingpin, and the return of the Punisher.
I'm not well versed on the Muse.
Oh, sorry, Muse.
I'm not well versed on that character.
I think he's only a relatively new character.
John, did John Berenthal as a Punisher?

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Charlie Cox as Daredevil.
I'll take whatever you give me.
I honestly don't think you could have cast anyone better as the Kingpin.
Prove me wrong.
Oh, no, he's great.
Yeah, sensational.
Bro.
100%.
The brutality of him in that first season of Daredevil, where he's smashing all mates
head in that car door.

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Holy shit.
I am interested now that it's with Marvel, if we're going to have the grit that Netflix
had.
Yeah.
Are we going to see the return of the choreographed one shot fight scenes again?
The hallway fights?
The hallway fights.
Insane.
Yes, it's going to be quite interesting to see where this all goes.

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Whether they try to kiddify it, you think?
Because they haven't done an R-rated TV show.
They haven't done.
They always shy away from the heavy violence, even with secret wars, they just went more
towards espionage.
Captain America, sorry, Falcon and Winter Soldier.

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The violence was very toned down.
Yeah, there doesn't appear to be any kind of rating on it yet.
No, I haven't seen nothing.
The one thing that I wanted was the DD on his chest.
Give me the DD.
I know he's Daredevil, he's in his red outfit, even when he was in the black ninja mask and
shit.
I know he's Daredevil, but again, bring it back to fan service.

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I want to see that DD on his chest.
Did you see in the trailer the cows mask he's got in front of the yellow one that he wore
in She-Hawk?
Love that.
I love that.
Yeah, I feel like that was really good.
That little punch on what they did with the comics.
Yeah, highly look forward to Daredevil.

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Yeah.
Considering the whole cast is coming back, I don't know whether they got the same showrunners
or directors coming back.
I haven't really read into that.
But I don't think the cast would have come back if they were going to water it down too

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much, although Marvel probably backed up the money truck.
Yeah.
It could be anything.
Yeah.
I am interested to see personally, I liked Jessica Jones, the show.
The villain for me was probably the best villain in the Marvel TV shows ever.

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The purple man.
Yes.
Yeah.
Loved him.
I could take a leave Iron Fist.
No, no, no.
We'll leave Iron Fist.
He can fuck off.
Denny Rand can suck a fart.
So not Denny Rand.
I'll take Iron Fist.
Don't give me that dude.
Yeah.

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I did hear there was a lot of problems when they shot that, that he wasn't reading the
script and he didn't do any training.
There's so many other martial artists here, like Western martial artists here, that could
have nailed their role.
Yeah, like get a martial artist in that role.
He's a fucking martial artist.
He defeats a dragon.
Why didn't we see a dragon?
They probably didn't have the budget.

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Even in the Defenders.
Oh, there's a dragon underneath the city.
Where?
Show me.
Nah.
We're just going to talk about it.
I'd like to see Luke Cage come back.
I thought he was a good Luke Cage.
Phenomenal Luke Cage.
When you see him in the Power Man outfit with the chain and the yellow shirt and the cuffs,
I'm like, yes, sir.

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Yes, sir.
Very cool.
I enjoyed the low level or street tier character that has a decent power set.
Yes, sir.
Where a lot of street based characters are just normal people in costumes doing extraordinary
things.
Extraordinary things.
The Defenders slate, I did like street level shit.

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Jessica Jones, she's just got super strength and he's pretty much invulnerable.
And attitude.
Alcoholic as fuck.
Copycat, she had nothing to do in that show.
She was just a reporter.
Basically had nothing.
Luke Cage was phenomenal up until that last episode.
You're giving me a villain in gray track pants, man.

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It's Rocky Balboa from the 80s.
I don't want to hear about it.
It was trash.
100%.
And then there's the guy in the window walking into that slum house and just getting bullets
unloaded into him and his shirt going to tatters.
Because let's face it, shirts aren't bulletproof.
His skin was bulletproof.
And seeing the shirt disintegrate and just seeing that fucking gorgeous skin under there,

(35:59):
dude, just reflecting bullets.
Holy Jesus.
And he's handsome as shit.
The next thing, Andor, season two.
Now I'm going to pay you an admonition.
I've seen half of season one and loved it.
Loved it.
I loved that it was a slow burn.

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I loved that it wasn't all action packed.
I loved that it was a dude trying to find a way to making it work.
It's something that prequels fall into.
You know what's going to happen.
But this was a prequel that you didn't know what happened to Andor.
You had no idea what he was up to before Rogue One.

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I'm all for it.
It is quite honestly, one of my favorite Star Wars installments.
And the fact that it doesn't have any Jedi and Sith in it is fantastic.

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Do they mention a Skywalker?
No.
Fantastic.
Can we move on from the Skywalker?
Please.
Don't get me wrong.
Seeing Luke or Vader show up at the end of them shows and just the green glow.
I cheer.
Absa-friggin-lily.
Why wouldn't you?

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100%.
But there's so much galaxy out there, man.
It just proves that you don't have to have this mainstay.
These three characters.
Yeah.
Darth Luke and Liar.
Fuck it.
Forget it.
Move on.
You can write stories that belong in a world, pre-existing world and have a story that is

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both compelling and entertaining.
The fact that this next season it is reported that the last episode kicks off right at the
beginning of Rogue One.

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So at the beginning of Rogue One, you see Andor running the streets and he gets the
information off.
Off I'll mate.
Off I'll mate.
And then there's that big firefight.
And then I believe he shoots him and then he goes up.
So in the same way that the very end of Rogue One is the Vader invading.

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That unforgettable scene.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sensational.
While they had that seamlessness to it.
Yep.
We're led straight into a new hope.
A new hope.
Yes, absolutely.
They're going to do that with the TV series.
So it's kind of suggested that when you sit down to watch the last episode.

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Of Andor.
Of Andor season two, probably have enough time to watch Rogue One.
Perfect.
All for it.
But again, you see the slightest snippet of Leia, which the day aging was done, I thought
pretty damn well.
That fucking Vader scene at the end where he just wreaks havoc, dude.

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And you see the brutality of Vader and the power of fucking Darth Vader.
In Rogue One we're talking about obviously.
Yeah.
Phenomenal.
But I'm all for not having in Andor season two, not having a middle.
I don't believe we're going to get anything.
We're going to get the backstory on K2SO.
Perfect.
The man.

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My dude.
Yeah.
My dude.
I'm very excited for that.
He is by far my favorite droid in the entire Star Wars universe.
Alan Tudyk.
Alan Tudyk is a phenomenal voice actor and a phenomenal actor.
K2SO.
Loved it.
Yeah.
I am very interested to see how he falls in with Andor.
Yeah.

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Cause he didn't show up in season one.
He did not.
One of the best things.
Do you know the survivability ratio that we're going to be facing here?
It's low.
It's low.
Very sarcastic.
Yeah.
I love it.
So that comes out on the 22nd of April on Disney plus the same as their devil born again.

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The next Marvel movie to come out with Thunderbolts with the little, is it an asterisk?
Is it an asterisk?
It is an asterisk.
We don't know what the hell that's about, but.
Well, apparently they're going to be the Avengers.
I think they're getting forward as a Avengers stand in.

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Until we get the new slate of Avengers.
Yes, potentially.
Just pissing in the wind here.
Thunderbolt Ross, were they his hit squad?
Well, he is incarcerated right now and it looks like the Thunderbolts are trying to

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work some kind of angle on the government to potentially clear their names.
Yeah.
Which confused me again.
If he's a congressman.
I think you'll find he might be a handler.
Kinda like Rick Flag for the suicide squad.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
But for anybody listening that isn't familiar with the Thunderbolts and maybe doesn't want

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any potential spoilers, maybe close your ears for a minute.
It looks like the big bad is going to be the Sentry.
Now you mentioned Sentry last night.
His name is actually Bob.
Robert.
Yeah.
The bloke who's playing him is Bill Pullman's son, who was also in Maverick and his name

(41:56):
in Maverick was Bob.
There you go.
So in the comics, the Sentry is a pretty interesting character.
In kind of later appearances, he seems like he has forgotten who he is.
He starts remembering the fact that he is this being who shines or can glow or has the

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power of a thousand exploding suns.
He was actually experimented on with the super solider serum as well.
There you go.
He's a powerhouse.
He basically marvels Superman.
But he has two sides.
He has a good side and a dark side.
The void being the dark side of him.

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And the reason why nobody remembers who he is, is he did a Doctor Strange on himself.
Made everyone forget including himself who he was.
So it looks like just from what I've seen from the trailers that the void is going to
take over and make a lot of dust splats.

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That for me, seeing that the pointing and then just the dust shadow on the floor, what
an incredible visual.
I like it.
It looks so good.
Aesthetically, it looks so sensational.
It's just like there's your dust on the floor.
It's going to be an interesting thing to see how these Thunderbolts who are basically a

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bunch of super soldiers, a chick with some guns, a chick that can phase are going to
fight somebody and pretty much turn them into dust and fly and has super strength.
Are we going to get a Red Hulk in?
Well, how else would you defeat the Sentry?

(43:55):
Unless you come up with a, hey Sentry, we're your friends.
And he goes, my God, you really are.
And they hug it out.
But how do you beat someone with the power of a thousand exploding suns harnessed within
a person?
It's going to be interesting.
Now we have seen Yelena cop an explosion in the face in Black Widow and she survived,

(44:17):
didn't even burn her eyebrows off.
So she might be impervious to explosions.
She might not know about it.
But I don't know.
From what I've seen, I'm excited to see what they're going to do.
I think there's a lot of misdirection in the trailer.
I don't think the director of Thunderbolts has done anything of note previous to this,

(44:41):
but in saying that, neither did John Watts before he done Spider-Man.
And Spider-Man is, I think that whole trilogy that they've got over there at Sony was the
best than anything outside of Marvel's ever done.

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100%.
And he'd never done anything big budget before.
I think he's only done Warfs with George Clooney and Brad Pitt since.
But I legit, I want to give all these, you don't always have to have a fucking Christopher
Nolan to direct these big epic entertaining comic book movies.

(45:29):
No, that's right.
You need to give some other people a chance.
Absolutely.
And like I just said, John Watts nailed it.
Like them three Spider-Man movies are fucking incredible.
But then you've got, the actors that are in it are charming.
Like I loved, I love the Red Guardian and the Elena relationship.

(45:51):
The back and forth in Black Widow was sensational.
And I'll watch that motherfucker do anything.
Everyone slams, he's Hellboy.
I loved him as Hellboy.
The movie wasn't strong, but his portrayal of him was sensational.
He's not my favorite Hellboy, but he was a good guy.
He's no Ron Perlman dude.
Fucking Jesus, Ron Perlman.
Put him in the costume again, I'll watch that.

(46:14):
Did you see, he said he would come back for Del Toro.
Dude, he was campaigning hard before they released that.
Twisted Man one.
Fuck that, don't even get me started on that.
Didn't even watch it.
Dude, it's a fucking Z grade movie.
It's so bad.
Dude, I'll watch the opening probably half an hour.
And I'm like, how can this get green lit?

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And they couldn't give Ron Perlman and Guillermo Del Toro some money.
It's a shame.
Because like Guardians of the Galaxy, Hellboy was a very acquired comic book.
Not a lot of people heard about it before Ron Perlman and Del Toro picked it up.
But like Guardians, James Gunn fucking killed the Guardians.

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Guardians of the Galaxy is still, in my opinion, the best trilogy in the entire Marvel universe.
You talk about, oh, what about the Avengers?
No.
Avengers 1 weren't good.
Same costumes were terrible.
Avengers 2, Age of Ultron, don't even get me started.
Didn't hate it.
But yeah, I get what you mean.
It doesn't compare to Guardians.
No.

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Guardians, dude, Guardians.
And everyone's like, oh, he puts his wife and his brother and everything.
Dude, Sean Gunn at Yondu's funeral.
And he's just cheering his doll off that all the ravages were there to celebrate Yondu
and shit.

(47:43):
Mate, tip of the hat.
Mate.
So much emotion in that show.
So much emotion in that movie.
The fact that at the end of Guardians 3, we didn't see the love interest of Gamora and
Quill.
They didn't reconnect.
They went their own ways.

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You could have paid off on that and go, oh, everybody gets a happy ending.
It was perfect.
It's what they needed to do.
And like Drax, you found who you are.
You're a dad.
You're not a destroyer.
Dude, come on.
I'm getting goosebumps from this shit.
It had no right to be as good as it was.
They would fucking delist characters in a Marvel franchise that no one had heard of.

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Everything down to the soundtrack was perfect.
Absolutely.
And you can see why they've put him on as the head of DC.
They backed the truck up to that bloke, man.
Back it up.
100% makes sense.
Whether it pays off, I don't know.
Dude, like I said, I'm not a Superman dude.
I was a Henry Cavill Superman dude for the simple fact that Man of Steel was grounded

(48:52):
as shit.
I liked the humanity of it.
Even though everyone's like, oh, he killed Zolt at the end.
I like that.
But for the simple fact that it just shows how conflicted he was after he'd done it.
He sat there and screamed and had no idea what to do.
If you're going to watch a mother and a son die, what are you going to do?

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Are you going to go, oh no, Zolt, I'll lock you up.
It'll be okay.
No, you're going to do whatever you can to stop it from happening.
Do what you need to do.
That there, I loved Man of Steel.
If Zack Snyder didn't shit the bed with BVS and then fuck Whit Wheaton, destroy Justice

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League, I think it could have been a good thing if he had more time to flesh out because
let's face it, everyone was slamming Jason Momoa's Aquaman and he was a saving grace.
And now he's Lobo motherfucker.
Jason Momoa's Aquaman in Justice League was sensational.

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Sensational.
Edgy, funny, handsome.
And I loved that he had his island tattoos on display.
Loved it.
DC's Thor-esque vibes.
Very, very.
So what did mean is the Aquaman movies where...

(50:30):
You hated those.
I did.
I love those.
No.
Yeah.
I think with a comic book movie, you need one of two things.
You need depth or you need variety.
Depth being what usually happens in the origin stories.

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There's a driving force, something that happens, something tragic, something that forces them
into this lifestyle, the heart of a movie, a comic book movie.
Or variety, which you usually get in sequels or like the team up movies where it's an ensemble
cast.

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They all have different roles, different emotions and they all kind of play off each other.
I think you need to either have one of them, they're not mutually exclusive.
You can have both.
Right.
Like Guardians of the Galaxy has heart, has an ensemble cast, has variety, has lulls,
has the downs.

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Iron Man 1 had...
See, that's what I was about to ask you.
Had the heart.
Where?
Okay.
He didn't have a heart to begin with, but it had...
Sorry, not the heart.
It had...
Iron Man 1 had depth.
Can you elaborate on the depth of Iron Man 1?
So he's obviously put in a fucking hard place when he's in that cave.

(51:55):
He was a playboy, doing a whole lot of bad shit, selling weapons to a whole lot of bad
people.
They put him in there.
He gained some humanity.
I'm not saying he ended up being the Iron Man that changed shit at the end of Endgame.
No, I agree with that 100%.

(52:16):
His relationship with Jensen in that cave and the way he ended that and he's like, hey,
I want to go.
I miss my family.
I want to go.
I think that was a catalyst to where we see Iron Man at the end of Endgame.
That's right.
He changed.
It gave depth to this character.

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A kind of character that didn't have depth, had depth at the end.
It's an origin story.
Right.
That has depth.
We didn't get an origin story with Vakomir Man either, did we?
No.
He was thrust straight into...
That's what I'm getting at.
Okay, I feel you.
It was a solo movie.
Yeah, but we didn't...

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Yeah, you're right.
Okay.
There was no real variety.
Okay, you had Mara.
You had the Atlanteans.
Yeah.
You did have some.
But visuals were fantastic.
Sure.
It was eye candy to look at.
Very.
But because it didn't have that variety, in my opinion, and it didn't have that depth,

(53:24):
I think they were leaning into the funny side of him where he lost that edginess and there
was no real kind of motivation.
The motivation for him to step up was very superficial.
But it was more off screen too.
It was more off screen in the fact that, oh, your mother died.

(53:47):
This is...
Your mother wanted more for you than this.
And you don't know that.
She apparently died off screen.
You didn't get to meet her much at all.
That's right.
It just...
You know, you pointed out, I don't want to enjoy Aquaman anymore.
Stop it.
Yeah, it's depth of variety.
You can have a popcorn flick with a whole heap of funnies and just a whole lot of action

(54:13):
and still enjoy that.
But...
I just realized that they kill all of Aquaman's lovely people off camera.
Another reason to hate it.
Shut up.
Stop it.
You've pointed shit out.
No, stop it.
Yeah, it just never sat well with me.
Okay.
So, the Flash...
Fuck, what are we talking about this?

(54:35):
It had potential, man.
It had depth.
It did, dude.
It had so much potential.
And it had the variety.
And it also had a fucking criminal in the lead.
Yeah.
But I mean, putting his part aside...
It's his current.

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He did it two, three years ago.
I did like his Flash character in Justice League.
He played well...
The hyperactive...
With uppets.
He had that variety.
Yeah, gotcha.
Also, the depth of him going back and trying to bring his mother back.
There's that.
Where it shat the bed was the fucking special effects.

(55:17):
They were laughable.
It could have been great.
Half of it looked like a game cut scene.
What was that thing where at the end, where it was just the circle upon circle of scenes?
They give it a name.
Anyway...
A class scene of time or something like that.
Something like that.
So, we have footage of Henry Cavill as Superman.

(55:42):
We have footage of Wonder Woman.
We have footage of Christopher Reeve as Superman.
We have footage of Nicolas Cage as Superman.
Why did you have to do this?
One Kenny Valley fucking bullshit.
Legit bullshit, dude.
You look at it and it looks like it was done on fucking paint.

(56:03):
Such a big budget movie.
And it weren't a small budget movie, dude.
It was big budget.
I understand backing up the money truck to Michael Keaton to come back as Batman, but
he would have done that for a packet of chips, dude.
That was another thing.
They had that fan service of bringing Keaton back as Batman.
It was...I mean, they even put fucking George Clooney in the end.

(56:27):
It's fucking Batman.
Come on.
Like, it had all the right ingredients.
Yeah, agreed.
They needed to polish it.
Yeah.
Don't polish it with shit.
Well, that's the thing.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't think it was a turd to begin with.
They just smeared it into a tin can.
Yeah.
But, Neve pointed that out.

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Like, always, I have this whole philosophy.
I want to check my brain at the door.
I just want to go to be entertained.
Movies like Aquaman, I just check my brain at the door.

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Movies like Endgame, I'm going to watch Endgame because it's the end game.
I've been watching these shows for 20 years.
The buildup.
I want to pay off.
And they fucking paid off.
Endgame paid off.
Like I've said, I've only seen that four times.

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Yesterday was one of them.
Nearly all the way through it, I'm choking back tears while I'm tattooing.
That's a fact, man.
That show, that movie, down to the final words that are said by Happy Hogan, I'll get you
all the cheeseburgers you want.
Come on, dude.
That's coming back to the very first one where Tony Stark just wanted a cheeseburger.

(57:55):
To say that to Morgan, come on.
Come on.
It's a comic book movie.
It didn't have any right to be there.
It had no right.
It had no right to do that.
But it did.
Guardians of the Galaxy was the same.
DC has struggled to make me feel.
However, we're going to talk about some later on anyway.

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The Superman legacy trailer.
Dude, it's a two minute 36 trailer that has sold me on the Man of Steel once again.
Dude, Krypto, come on.
He whistles to Krypto and he goes, take me home.
And Krypto grabs him by the cape and fucking takes him.
It's one of the things I dislike about it.

(58:40):
No.
Dude, come on.
What's Krypto's backstory?
Is he literally a dog from planet Krypton?
No.
It's just a dog that he grew up with that his powers were transferred during a Red Sun.
Man, so how are we going to get that in this film?
There's that many.
What I'm worried about is the sheer amount of stuff that's in there, even just in the

(59:03):
trailer.
If this is going to be like you said, it's got to have some substance to it.
If this is an origin story, I want to feel something.
I don't need to see him as a kid.
I've seen it.
Same as the Batman scene.
I don't need to see his parents dying no more.
Well, they did it in The Last Spider-Man.

(59:24):
They didn't need to do it like The Last Spider-Man.
No origin.
Everybody knows.
Exactly.
You didn't see Uncle Ben die.
And they left.
With great power comes great responsibility.
To the last movie.
And Aunt May said it.
Perfect.
And watching Aunt May die there, again.
Didn't have the right.

(59:44):
Mark Renshyn, bro, because he loved his aunt so goddamn much.
The Superman trailer, it got me to that original score, but it was slowed down and amped up.
It had more orchestral, ethereal sound.
It had no right to be that good.
But for Two Minutes, 36, it made me excited for a Superman movie.

(01:00:07):
For the first time in a long time, dude.
I didn't even get excited for Men of Steel.
I do hope that some of the costumes that appeared in the trailer.
Get refined?
Refined in post.
Because some of them looked pretty cheap.
It looked like, can you remember the Captain America costume for Sam Wilson in the TV show?

(01:00:31):
It looked puffy.
It looked like it was made out of EVA foam.
Didn't quite fit well.
Exactly.
I think that's with the David, the David Corrin sweat of it.
When he's sitting down doing his shoelace up and it gets puffy.
It doesn't look like it fits.
It's not form fitting and it looks like he's just wearing a suit.
Yeah.
Hopefully, it gets fixed up.
Well, like with Captain America, the first trailer to come out, Sam, when he lands his

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legs off to one side, it kind of looks awkward.
They fixed that.
They did.
Excellent.
Look, great.
There is room to do that.
So I'm not ruling this out.
I'm not cheating on it.
I will see it.
I'll definitely see it.
But.
And dude, it's James Gunn.

(01:01:15):
It's James Gunn and it's called Superman Legacy.
You think he's going to shit the bed with this thing?
I really hope not.
I hope not.
So that comes out in July.
That's not too far off either.
No.
David Corrin sweat was only announced in November.
Yeah.
That's moved quick.
I think the last one you want to talk about was Twisted Metal.

(01:01:36):
Oh, dude.
Again, Anthony Mackie, charming as shit.
And it's got Rosa out of Brooklyn Nine-Nine, man.
Had no right to be as good as it was.
TV show The Commander Nowhere about an early 2000s video game on Sony PlayStation.
You're like, how's this going to work?
The game is you just drive around a small map with hyper cars, blow and shoot up.

(01:01:58):
How are they going to make that into a story?
And they did.
They succeeded in it.
Neve Campbell's in it.
Really?
It's entertaining and charming as shit.
Graphic.
Okay.
Graphic.
I'd imagine it has to be.
But just a fun show, dude.
Just a fun ass show.
That comes out at the end of the year.

(01:02:19):
And I'll be watching that.
That'll be the second season.
I'll be watching.
The first one is A Warump Man.
I thoroughly recommend anybody to go.
I haven't seen many people talk about it.
But if you look at the reviews and that on IMDB, it's pretty up there, like eight out
of 10 and pretty consistent.
And well, with that, we might leave it there because we're running out of tape.

(01:02:44):
Exactly.
Not tape.
Not tape.
Digitally.
We're running out of time.
Yeah, that's right.
But mate, this has been fun for our first one.
It has.
It's been a good time.
Hopefully we can streamline it a bit more in the future.
No way.
This was sick.
It was fun.
And I hope other people had fun listening along.
Yeah, yeah.
And we'll catch you next Monday.

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Peace.