August 26, 2022 • 30 mins
Our guest this week is queer comedian and viral content creator Rob Anderson. Rob is best known for his short form sketches, parodies and comedic series "Gay Science", which tackles harmful queer stereotypes by answering questions like: "Why Are Gay Men Terrible Drivers" and "Why Gay Men Can't Sit In a Chair Properly." Amassing over 2 million social media followers, his comedy thoughtfully explores relatable LGBTQ+ issues in unique and sardonic ways.
On today’s episode, we learn how Rob went from small town class clown to big city marketing positions at Grindr, Uber, and The Infatuation to global TikTok sensation, author, musical artist, and stand-up comedian. We also discuss the differences between online and on-stage performance and, his upcoming North American comedy tour “Heartthrob Live,” and why it’s important for him to be a vocal advocate for the queer community.
You can purchase tickets to “Heartthrob Live” at heartthrobanderson.com/tour. They are selling out fast, so don’t wait!
Your host is Levi Chambers, founder of Rainbo Media Co. You can follow Levi @levichambers across socials.
Follow the show and keep up with the conversation @PRIDE across socials.
Want more great shows from Straw Hut Media? Check out or website at strawhutmedia.com.
PRIDE is produced by Levi Chambers, Frank Driscoll, Maggie Boles, Ryan Tillotson, and Brandon Marlo. Edited by Frank Driscoll and Daniel Ferrera.
Have an interesting LGBTQ+ story to share? We might feature U! Email us at lgbtq@strawhutmedia.com.
*This podcast is not affiliated with Pride Media.
Produced by Straw Hut Media
On today’s episode, we learn how Rob went from small town class clown to big city marketing positions at Grindr, Uber, and The Infatuation to global TikTok sensation, author, musical artist, and stand-up comedian. We also discuss the differences between online and on-stage performance and, his upcoming North American comedy tour “Heartthrob Live,” and why it’s important for him to be a vocal advocate for the queer community.
You can purchase tickets to “Heartthrob Live” at heartthrobanderson.com/tour. They are selling out fast, so don’t wait!
Your host is Levi Chambers, founder of Rainbo Media Co. You can follow Levi @levichambers across socials.
Follow the show and keep up with the conversation @PRIDE across socials.
Want more great shows from Straw Hut Media? Check out or website at strawhutmedia.com.
PRIDE is produced by Levi Chambers, Frank Driscoll, Maggie Boles, Ryan Tillotson, and Brandon Marlo. Edited by Frank Driscoll and Daniel Ferrera.
Have an interesting LGBTQ+ story to share? We might feature U! Email us at lgbtq@strawhutmedia.com.
*This podcast is not affiliated with Pride Media.
Produced by Straw Hut Media
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Straw media. I'm Leavi Chambers.My pronouns are he, him, his,
and this is pride. I grewup with a lot of trauma and
damage, as a lot of queerpeople do, so I think I used
humor as a coping mechanism and thatkind of always stuck with me. So
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I think my sense of humor probablydeveloped and changed as I got older.
So I don't know if I wasalways funny, but I always liked I
always had a sense of humor.My guest this week is queer comedian and
viral content creator Rob Anderson. Iam a comedian and content creator and producer
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of short form comedy videos on TikTok, Instagram, everywhere on the Internet.
And I currently live in LA andI am working on a whole bunch of
different projects at the moment. Sojust basically a comedian that focuses on queer
content, but not always. Robis best known for his short form sketches,
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parodies, and comedic series Gay Science, which tackles harmful queer stereotypes by
answering questions like why are gay menterrible drivers? And why gay men can't
sit in a chair properly? Amassingover two million social media followers. His
comedy thoughtfully explores relatable LGBTQ plus issuesin unique and sardonic ways. On today's
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episode, we learn how Rob wentfrom smalltown class clown to big city marketing
positions at grinder, Uber and theinfatuation to global TikTok sensation, author,
musical artist, and stand up comedian. We also discuss the differences between online
and onstage performance, and his upcomingNorth American comedy tour, Heartthrob Live,
and why it's important to him tobe a vocal advocate for the queer community.
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I'm Rob Anderson, and this isPride Heart Throb. Rob has become
a household name in the queer community. But Rob Anderson wasn't always a viral
TikTok star, Okay, So wereyou always funny? Like? What was
what was Little Rob? Like?You know, I'd say as a kid,
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I was pushing the envelope a little. I didn't always stick to the
rules because a lot of the ruleswhen you're a kid are silly. A
lot of them are still silly now. But I just thought, I went
to a Christian middle school and elementaryschool, and they have so many rules,
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and I'm like, why what isall this for? So I was
suspended a lot. I had alot of detentions even in public school,
just because I liked to push thingsI thought authority. I didn't really feel
like I threatened to my authority,and my mom wanted to kill me before
it. I gave her. Igave her a lot of stress growing up.
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I was a tough kid to raisebecause I just felt like, I
don't know what is authority. Youknow, that's the kind of kid I
was. So I feel like youwere just like a good time. Yeah,
I mean I think so, Likeif I was a kid in class,
i'd have been like, Rob isfun. Yeah, I think so.
I don't think I ever pushed ittoo far where I was hurting myself
or others. But I think Iwas trying to find the things that were
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stupid, like why can't we saythat, why can't we do that,
why can't we play that music?Why can't we watch that show? And
I think most maybe my classmates wouldprobably agree with me. So I think
that my class clown per se.I don't know if I was like the
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class clown, but I was definitelya little bit of a troublemaker. So
even back then, obviously you challengeauthority. You were funny. Did when
was like the first time you realizelike, oh I love this, I
love being funny. I want todo comedy when people are having a good
time. I always want to havea good time. I want to enjoy
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myself. I want to laugh.And I think whatever was giving me that
feeling in a very elementary sense,I just wanted to give to other people.
And I think our world is weird. We do a lot of weird
things. The news is sometimes reallytough to get through, can be depressing
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and sad, and I think humorshakes people out of it a little bit,
reminds people we're all just on thisdumb, floating rock. Like a
lot of the stuff we do wasjust made up. Someone decided that it
was going to be a thing.Once some old white guy decided this was
going to be a thing, andnow we all do that thing. And
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I think humor kind of breaks itup a little bit, makes people realize
this is all just really kind ofquite stupid. School money all made up
bullshit? Yeah, like what ismoney? What is money? Really?
So through all of this, youeventually kind of worked your way up and
worked into a career in marketing.I'd graduated in two thousand and nine,
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which was a recession at that time, so jobs were hard to come by.
And my first job out of collegewas as a reporter for a construction
journal. And that is as rivetingas it sounds. It was what are
the lights did you like? Reporton? Like, there's new backs at
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the new construction site. That's whatI think. You paid nineteen thousand dollars
a year and full for my salary, full time, and I sat at
a desk and I called contractors andarchitects to see what jobs they had opened
forbidding for different subcontractors, and thenI would let the subcontractors know that there
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were jobs happening. And I hadthe state of Tennessee and Kentucky, I
had like the South. It wassuch a great time, I mean seeing
if there was an Orange Julius openingin Kentucky and calling people and letting them
know they were going to build one. What a great time to be alive.
But from there, I luckily mynext job after that was for Grinder.
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It was just when Grinder was firststarting out, so my job,
my job was a lot of marketingand I got a lot of skills from
that, and then I started workingfor Uber and then eventually the infatuation doing
creative marketing campaigns to grab attention ofthese like new startups at the time,
and it used a lot of mycreative skills with a lot of my like
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technical marketing knowledge that I had gottenover the years. I kind of wanted
to just understand the parallels between whatyou were doing for Construction and Grinder and
also if you had to like pioqueerness, right, Like, do you
feel like when you were doing theconstruction calls, did you have to put
on like a hey Rob kind ofvoice, you know, like you got
any new dirt to move or something. You know, I feel like Kentucky,
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you might even need an accent toreally fit in. So I'm wondering
what like that being a queer personat Grinder versus construction media was like,
yeah, I definitely, Well,it was when I was first starting to
come out, and like a lotof gay people, I came out as
by initially because I didn't want toset all the women that I had hooked
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up with, and I'm like,no, I really did, like you,
you know, like like you know, just by and then eventually not
so in that weird like phase,you still have a little bit of that
trying to stay heterosexual in some ways. So I think that probably carried to
the conversations with the construction Journal company. But I was so bad at the
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cold calls, like hold, callingsomebody out of the blue when they're not
expecting it and just trying to getinformation is hell. I'm an introvert in
a lot of ways, and itwas hell. And so they eventually moved
me to only doing it online andso I could just check websites and see
and not have to call people.Oh my god. It was such a
relief. But aside from that,working at Grinder was of course so much
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better to be able to just begay. I actually wasn't as I was
like, oh, wow, peopleare gay. I'm like wow, you
know, like working there because alot of the people were, so that
was like my first i would goout to us Hollywood and visit the offices
and I'm like, well, thisis crazy out here, this is people
are really gay. It was exciting. I think that moment in my life,
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that period in my life, Iwas trying to find humor with being
gay and finding the humor in itand looking back at how I've kind of
progress and how as I've matured myhumor has changed. I look at some
of the things that I had writtenat that time. I was an improv
comedian, so there were some likesketches I would put up that were filmed,
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and I look at those now andI'm like, oh, it's funny
to see how my humor changed fromme realizing like, oh, this is
what being gay is. But Iwas making myself too much of the butt
of the joke. And now myhumor doesn't rely on me being the butt
of the joke. There's just humorthat's within the community. So it is
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interesting how it's changed, because myperspective of who I am as a gay
man has changed too. I mean, that's kind of awesome, right,
That's the evolution, which is verysciency. Right. That's actually a beautiful
segue into gay science, the evolutionof Rob's comedy. And in ten years
I'm going to look back in thehumor now and go, what was I
even doing then? Wow? Thatwas really bad, you know, But
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that's that's progress, absolutely. Imean, that's that's how it works for
everyone. Right, You're like,wow, that was thank God that I'm
here, or thanks someone, thankssomeone that I'm here. Yeah, at
this point, thanks someone. Sowhat inspired you to start your whole gay
science I guess we're going to callit a series. Yeah, it is
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a series. The preference that gaymen have for iced coffee over hot coffee
is so ubiquitous, it's so ingrained. I wanted to know why that was,
and I couldn't find any information onthat, and so I decided to
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make my own information, which wasthrough the form of fake science, in
a video that was very matter offact but so silly, and so it's
clearly so stupid, and people reallygot to kick out of it, and
people really enjoyed it, and theykept sending me more of our community stereotypes
that we have our own community jokesas things to like poke fun act because
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some of them are so silly,like not sitting in a chair properly coloring
your hair when you're in a crisis. Literally, there's just dozens and dozens
of them, and I've had funmaking fun of each one of those through
this fake science method. So whatwas what was the process like In the
very early days of gay science.What was that process? Like, did
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you like come up with a conceptand then kind of script it out?
Like how did that go? Yeah? I started with a list of all
of the stereotypes that I know ofthat I wanted to explain. And then
a lot of the times I relyon my audiences. They're really awesome and
they have really good ideas, Andon Instagram, I popped up a story
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that was like, Hey, sendme whatever stereotypes you want to explain anything
you want to explain through gay science, And so I added those to the
list, and then I kind ofprioritized which ones I thought I had a
good explanation for, and then Iput those into their own documents, and
I think about, like how canI get to that end result? What
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weird stupid path can I bring peopleon? What story can I tell to
land at a thing that's positive?So a lot of these things start with
something that's negative, like maybe wiregame and annoying? Why do we hate
terrible music? Why or do wetalk like that? Why do we run
like that? All these things thatwe get picked made fun of all the
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time, And it ends in aplace it's like, because you know,
we're better, queer people are better, we're elites. We have we've evolved,
and the rest of everyone else justhasn't caught up with it yet.
So that's the kind of path thatI wanted to take. And then in
that is all the jokes. Youjust throw in a whole bunch of jokes,
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You do a bunch of voiceovers afew times, over lay images on
top of it. I just havea lot of fun with it. They're
the most fun thing that I've evermade. I have so much joy making
them that sometimes it'll be like afew weeks till one comes out because I
think of more funny things to addinto it that just they make me laugh.
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So is the purpose of the contentthat you're creating. Do you feel
like, really, at its core, it's the social commentary, or do
you feel like comedy is really andlaughing and making people laugh is at its
core? All of them give somesort of should give you a little bit
of joy, should make you feelgood. So I don't make anything that
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makes anyone feel bad, which Ithink is a very unique thing. I
think we have a lot more wehave more positivity in content these days,
which is nice, you know,we're not those like the bitchy two tens,
like the nasty like you know,we don't have that sort of attitude
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in our culture as much anymore,which is really great. But I think
that when it comes to talking aboutour community, there's a lot of things
that like to talk negatively about it, or make some people in our community
feel weird for being the way theyare, or that if a lot of
people do a certain thing, ifit's really popular in the gay community,
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then it you know, we're gonwe're gonna talk down on that, We're
gonna make people feel bad that they'rein this in the masses that like something
that's popular. And I think whatI like to do is make people feel
good about being in our community,no matter what kind of place they have
in it. So I think that'swhat all of my stuff has its core.
But going off what you're saying,does it does it have a message?
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Does it not? Is it justto make people laugh? I think
it just depends. It doesn't alwayshave to have a message. Sometimes I
just might think an idea is reallystupid, like holding in your poop for
a while just to like remind yourselfof an x, you know, remind
your stuff that you miss him.You know, that's the so stupid,
right, Like what is that?What are you saying? Like what?
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But I'm like, I just wantto do a video about the fact that
you miss somebody, so just likeholding your poop a little bit longer to
like, you know, feel likethey're in there. I mean, that's
I don't know, there's no socialmessage there, Like I'm not really I'm
not bringing anyone to the polls tovote for any sort of social cause there.
But and then other times, youknow, I like to talk about
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the government's response to monkey box orgaze the gaze over COVID controversy. You
know, there's some other things thathave a little bit more to them.
I mean, I'm sure there arepeople who can relate to holding in their
poop just as Midge longer I wouldhope. So, I mean this video
is for them. There's definitely anaudience for every single concept. Yeah,
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so when you first got started,did did the concept go viral right away?
It wasn't one of those like youknow, you hear that story the
stories from people particularly who create contenton TikTok where it's like I put a
video up and I woke up inthe morning and I was famous. Basically,
is that how it was for you? Or was it a little more
of like a slow burn into likean inferno? You know? I think
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that it's more of a slow burn. I put a lot of effort into
my videos. Not always, butmost of them that do well, they
take a lot of time and effortand planning. I'll create fake board games
and all the individual pieces, I'llget them three D printed, and I
will make original boards, and sosome of my concepts can take over a
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month to get together. I designeverything myself. So a lot of those
things have hit really hard because peopleare sometimes just impressed by the sheer amount
of work that went into something sostupid, like just taking an idea that's
so dumb and committing to it's sohard. People just seem to enjoy those
sorts of things. So over time, you know, those things build and
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people are like, hey, Ilike this guy, Like he puts a
lot of time, in energy andeffort into these dumb ideas. So for
me, it feels like a slowburn. Even if someone individually looked at
videos, they go he just wentviral really quickly. I think I was
just working really hard. But yeah, I'd say a slow bird that's deserved,
a deserved slow burn, a deservedslow bird. Since starting Gay Science,
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Rob has partnered with the Academy Awards, made promotional content with pop star
Kim Petris, penned a number onebest selling children's book based on the infamous
twenty eighteen national Anthem performance by singerFergie, put out a song and music
video, and appeared on the DiscoveryPlus show. The Book of Queer sounds
overwhelming, to say the least interms of gay science. Right, what
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happens when that's not what you wantto do anymore? I mean, so
many things have happened already, right, I'm like, oh my god,
I am my success success. Yeah, no, thank you. We should
clap for you. But it'd beweird. I have too many ideas and
too many things that I want todo where I will just have them all
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in different documents of like long formshows that I want to make, movies
that I want to write, startlike scripts that I've started to write,
and collaborations. I'll see somebody online, I'm like, oh my god,
I love this person. It wouldbe so fun to do this and this
with them, but I'd want tomake sure that thing was the perfect match,
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and so I never approach them orDM them because I'm like, in
the back of my mind, I'mlike that that'll come to me when it
does, and then I'll reach outto them. And so I actually have
too many things that I want todo, and it would be nice to
have a less and be able toactually like focus on what that one next
thing is, which I'm trying todo. That's like I'm trying to hone
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things in and find one thing andlike really focus on it. So yeah,
I think when it comes to aseries like gay Science, I've really
never gotten tired of it goes inwaves, or if I have a lot
of good ideas, I'll have abunch in a month, and then maybe
like the next couple of months,like maybe I'll have one or two.
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I just kind of lean into whatever'smost enjoyable for me to make. But
there are sometimes where I think thingsrun its course. Like I had a
series called Boyfriend Twins and it mayeventually come back, but I did it
for like maybe about nine months,and I feel like there was like I
went through a bunch of topics withthem. I think we got to know
who these two guys were. Theywere a boyfriend twins that looked alike.
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I played both of them, andthey're dating each other. But the show
wasn't about the fact that they lookedalike. It was just about like a
slice of life in a gay couple. And people really liked it, and
I think I was like good onit. Point who were like, bring
that back, Like where did thatgo? Like we want more videos of
them? And I think I didone and I just didn't enjoy it as
much. And I'm like, well, I'm just gonna bring it back if
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I want to, if I havea good idea for it. But I
just get bored too easily. Ilike to move on from things, but
gay science is the one thing Ihaven't really gotten bored with. Recently,
Rob announced he'll be kicking off histwenty city North American comedy tour Heartthrob Live
in Black Rock City, Nevada,on August thirty first, which will conclude
in Los Angeles on December eleventh.The show features original music, presentations,
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and personal stories. He says he'skept far away from the Internet. You
can purchase tickets at Heartthrob Anderson dotcom slash Tour. You've kind of taken
everything and now you are doing itlive and on stage, which to me
sounds more terrifying. Like it's betterto put something on the internet because if
it's really doesn't hit, you canbe like, I'm gonna deel eat that
you can't delete real life embarrassment becauseit's just there. So was that terrifying
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taking the comedy you created for onlineto a live stage with real human beings
in front of you. Yeah,there was definitely nerves involved. I don't
know if I was terrified though.I was an improv performer in Chicago for
seven or eight years for the SecondCity, and iowe and the stage is
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really comfortable for me. I reallyenjoy it, but I have not been
on it since twenty sixteen, soit was I was a little nervous because
it had been about seven years,six years since I stepped on a stage,
and it was stand out a lotof stand up that I was doing,
all new material, So I waslike, I just didn't know how
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people were going to respond to it. But it's a room full of people
that already like me and enjoy mein these shows that I've had leading up
to the tour. So the audienceswere just fire and the material really landed,
which was great, and I refinedit even more. A bit of
a perfectionist, so after that firstshow, I was like, okay,
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like what worked, what didn't?How can I make that better? And
I spent another month of like refiningit, and then I did in front
of a new audience in San Diego, and I saw what they liked and
didn't like, and then I refinedit more, and so like over time,
I just came up with what I'mreally confident to say, It is
like an awesome funny show and I'mexcited to do it in the fall.
Is it really fucking funny, It'sit's really fucking funny. It's really gay.
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It's really really gay. And I'vehad some straight people in the audience,
and I think they enjoy it too. There's there's a moment, there's
a moment for the straight If theydon't, it's fine, yeah, yeah,
but it's really gay. And it'sall the things that I've been wanting
to say, stories, I've wantedto tell, jokes I've wanted to make
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that I can't really make on theinternet, especially not places like TikTok where
it's like heavily moderated. It's allof those more explicit things and more personal
things that I think when you're onstage and you're in an environment where it's
just you and the audience, itjust feels more intimate. And that's the
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kind of show that I've put together. Can you give us like a little
taste of what people should expect?It should be explicit, it's very gay.
Yes, it's the basis of itis storytelling personal stories taken from my
life that I've wanted to tell,and innersplice in those are original songs.
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Some of those are songs that peoplehave may have heard, original songs.
Yes, I love this. Yes, there are songs that I've released two
songs out now, comedy pop songs. Those are in the show, as
well as other songs that are justonly really should exist within the confines of
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the show to give them context.And then original presentations. So it's a
variety of sorts of stand up storytelling, presentations in music, and a little
bit of nudity. Wait there's nowoh wait, okay, so this is
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fitting. I was getting excited forthe nudity. Oh there's a little bit.
Okay, twenty one plus you gottabe twenty or twenty one. Well,
the first question is who's nude?Is it you? I'm assuming so
because it's called it's the Heartthrob Tour? Correct, Yes, but the audience
you're nude. The audience is nude. Oh, you don't know until you
don't know until you come in,And I'm like, don't you love this?
That's super fun? Everyone get naked. Did did you name your tour
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heartthrob? Did you are you aself described heartthrob? Or did people say
like you are heartthrob? That shouldbe the name of the tour. My
original Instagram name was really boring.I think it was like Rob Anderson eight
eight Rob Anderson eight and I waslike, I need a pun, I
need a pun in my name,and so a few years back I changed
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it and that's that's the one Idecided to come up with. So no,
nobody actually calls me a heartthrob itself. I call myself it which is
so cool, isn't it? Whata cool thing to name yourself a compliment?
Yes? So how many? Iknow? You actually have a lot
of your tours are several of them? Are already sold out. I think
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Portland has sold out and maybe Seattlessold out. But you're going everywhere from
like Texas to Hawaii. I mean, I think you're on the East Coast
a little bit dabbling in like Philadelphia. So there are a lot of places
for people to see you. Wherecan they buy your tickets? Yes,
I'm in twenty cities. I actuallywanted to hit up every single city in
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the United States and North America.And my tour agent was like, you
know, her name is Rachel.She's amazing. She was like, this
is your first tour, you know, like, why don't we just try
to dial it in. But shegot all the cities that I wanted and
she got amazing clubs in them.You can get tickets at Hearthrob Anderson slash
Tour Heartthrob Anderson dot com slash Tourand I'm in Texas and Florida and everywhere
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on the East Coast. I'm inToronto and yes, even in Honolulu.
Will end my tour in Honolulu.So there's a lot of places to see
me. And it is selling out. We sold that I think seven of
the shows so far, and Ithink they're all going to sell out is
what I'm told. So that's veryexciting. So if you do want to
go see Heartthrob Live, you needto get tickets. I mean, by
the time this comes out, probablyyou're too late. It's silver, but
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you're too late, but hopefully not. You might as well check and make
sure that you're not too late.Rob is a vocal advocate when it comes
to LGBTQ plus rights and issues,so I wanted to get his pulse check
on some current issues the queer communityis facing. What are your thoughts on
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some pertinent issues to the LGBTQ pluscommunity that don't say gay Bill, even
just the precariousness of queer rights inour country, specifically after the overturning of
Rov Wade, the government's response toMonkey Pocks. So I'd love to know
about kind of the the issues thatare really important to you right now and
just why you feel like you should, I guess use your platform for those
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those issues. Yeah. I um, it can be really depressing reading and
seeing what's happening, because, likea lot of things, you think you
have a little bit of progress.And I mean when we had gay marriage
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throughout all fifty states in twenty fifteen. You know, a lot of mostly
CIS gay men felt like okay,fine, like we're finally all equal,
but it is not the case.There's a lot of people under the LGBTQ
plus umbrella that don't have that equality, that are are more stigmatized. And
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I think that even now seeing what'shappening in Florida and how other states are
seeing that don't say gay bill andmaking their own versions of it, the
fight really never ends. And itcan be exhausting and really frustrating seeing it.
Um, but we have to noticethat it's happening, realize we're going
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to take some losses and things aregoing to have to we're going to be
pushed back, but we're not goingto stop talking about it, and we're
not gonna stop showing how absolutely ridiculousit is. And I do that through
comedy. It's it's just my wayof communicating. It's my way of like
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showing my thoughts M. But everyonedoes it in their own way, and
so yeah, I think that that'slike just a it's a very important thing
for me. Where can all ofthe people into the rock and in a
cave. No shame for cave dwellersbut where can they follow you on social
media if they're not already. OnInstagram it's heart Throb Anderson, and on
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TikTok it's heart Throbberts, and onTwitter it's a smart Throb. Oh my
gosh, the puns. I know. It's mainly because my name was taken
in each one of these subsequent things, so I couldn't. I had to
find new wage, a new wayto call myself, a new thing,
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and then YouTube's just my name.Well, thank you so so much for
coming on the podcast and taking timeaway from my guests. You are probably
like knee deep creating new content forTikTok that's going to be out in like
a month or so, because it'staking a long time for you to make
a new board game or something.But I really appreciate you taking the time
to be on the podcas past andto talk to us about all of these
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things. LEVI, thank you forhaving me. This was so much fun.
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Straw media. I'm Leavi Chambers.My pronouns are he, him, his,
and this is pride. I grewup with a lot of trauma and
damage, as a lot of queerpeople do, so I think I used
humor as a coping mechanism and thatkind of always stuck with me. So
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I think my sense of humor probablydeveloped and changed as I got older.
So I don't know if I wasalways funny, but I always liked I
always had a sense of humor.My guest this week is queer comedian and
viral content creator Rob Anderson. Iam a comedian and content creator and producer
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of short form comedy videos on TikTok, Instagram, everywhere on the Internet.
And I currently live in LA andI am working on a whole bunch of
different projects at the moment. Sojust basically a comedian that focuses on queer
content, but not always. Robis best known for his short form sketches,
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parodies, and comedic series Gay Science, which tackles harmful queer stereotypes by
answering questions like why are gay menterrible drivers? And why gay men can't
sit in a chair properly? Amassingover two million social media followers. His
comedy thoughtfully explores relatable LGBTQ plus issuesin unique and sardonic ways. On today's
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episode, we learn how Rob wentfrom smalltown class clown to big city marketing
positions at grinder, Uber and theinfatuation to global TikTok sensation, author,
musical artist, and stand up comedian. We also discuss the differences between online
and onstage performance, and his upcomingNorth American comedy tour, Heartthrob Live,
and why it's important to him tobe a vocal advocate for the queer community.
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I'm Rob Anderson, and this isPride Heart Throb. Rob has become
a household name in the queer community. But Rob Anderson wasn't always a viral
TikTok star, Okay, So wereyou always funny? Like? What was
what was Little Rob? Like?You know, I'd say as a kid,
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I was pushing the envelope a little. I didn't always stick to the
rules because a lot of the ruleswhen you're a kid are silly. A
lot of them are still silly now. But I just thought, I went
to a Christian middle school and elementaryschool, and they have so many rules,
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and I'm like, why what isall this for? So I was
suspended a lot. I had alot of detentions even in public school,
just because I liked to push thingsI thought authority. I didn't really feel
like I threatened to my authority,and my mom wanted to kill me before
it. I gave her. Igave her a lot of stress growing up.
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I was a tough kid to raisebecause I just felt like, I
don't know what is authority. Youknow, that's the kind of kid I
was. So I feel like youwere just like a good time. Yeah,
I mean I think so, Likeif I was a kid in class,
i'd have been like, Rob isfun. Yeah, I think so.
I don't think I ever pushed ittoo far where I was hurting myself
or others. But I think Iwas trying to find the things that were
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stupid, like why can't we saythat, why can't we do that,
why can't we play that music?Why can't we watch that show? And
I think most maybe my classmates wouldprobably agree with me. So I think
that my class clown per se.I don't know if I was like the
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class clown, but I was definitelya little bit of a troublemaker. So
even back then, obviously you challengeauthority. You were funny. Did when
was like the first time you realizelike, oh I love this, I
love being funny. I want todo comedy when people are having a good
time. I always want to havea good time. I want to enjoy
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myself. I want to laugh.And I think whatever was giving me that
feeling in a very elementary sense,I just wanted to give to other people.
And I think our world is weird. We do a lot of weird
things. The news is sometimes reallytough to get through, can be depressing
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and sad, and I think humorshakes people out of it a little bit,
reminds people we're all just on thisdumb, floating rock. Like a
lot of the stuff we do wasjust made up. Someone decided that it
was going to be a thing.Once some old white guy decided this was
going to be a thing, andnow we all do that thing. And
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I think humor kind of breaks itup a little bit, makes people realize
this is all just really kind ofquite stupid. School money all made up
bullshit? Yeah, like what ismoney? What is money? Really?
So through all of this, youeventually kind of worked your way up and
worked into a career in marketing.I'd graduated in two thousand and nine,
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which was a recession at that time, so jobs were hard to come by.
And my first job out of collegewas as a reporter for a construction
journal. And that is as rivetingas it sounds. It was what are
the lights did you like? Reporton? Like, there's new backs at
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the new construction site. That's whatI think. You paid nineteen thousand dollars
a year and full for my salary, full time, and I sat at
a desk and I called contractors andarchitects to see what jobs they had opened
forbidding for different subcontractors, and thenI would let the subcontractors know that there
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were jobs happening. And I hadthe state of Tennessee and Kentucky, I
had like the South. It wassuch a great time, I mean seeing
if there was an Orange Julius openingin Kentucky and calling people and letting them
know they were going to build one. What a great time to be alive.
But from there, I luckily mynext job after that was for Grinder.
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It was just when Grinder was firststarting out, so my job,
my job was a lot of marketingand I got a lot of skills from
that, and then I started workingfor Uber and then eventually the infatuation doing
creative marketing campaigns to grab attention ofthese like new startups at the time,
and it used a lot of mycreative skills with a lot of my like
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technical marketing knowledge that I had gottenover the years. I kind of wanted
to just understand the parallels between whatyou were doing for Construction and Grinder and
also if you had to like pioqueerness, right, Like, do you
feel like when you were doing theconstruction calls, did you have to put
on like a hey Rob kind ofvoice, you know, like you got
any new dirt to move or something. You know, I feel like Kentucky,
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you might even need an accent toreally fit in. So I'm wondering
what like that being a queer personat Grinder versus construction media was like,
yeah, I definitely, Well,it was when I was first starting to
come out, and like a lotof gay people, I came out as
by initially because I didn't want toset all the women that I had hooked
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up with, and I'm like,no, I really did, like you,
you know, like like you know, just by and then eventually not
so in that weird like phase,you still have a little bit of that
trying to stay heterosexual in some ways. So I think that probably carried to
the conversations with the construction Journal company. But I was so bad at the
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cold calls, like hold, callingsomebody out of the blue when they're not
expecting it and just trying to getinformation is hell. I'm an introvert in
a lot of ways, and itwas hell. And so they eventually moved
me to only doing it online andso I could just check websites and see
and not have to call people.Oh my god. It was such a
relief. But aside from that,working at Grinder was of course so much
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better to be able to just begay. I actually wasn't as I was
like, oh, wow, peopleare gay. I'm like wow, you
know, like working there because alot of the people were, so that
was like my first i would goout to us Hollywood and visit the offices
and I'm like, well, thisis crazy out here, this is people
are really gay. It was exciting. I think that moment in my life,
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that period in my life, Iwas trying to find humor with being
gay and finding the humor in itand looking back at how I've kind of
progress and how as I've matured myhumor has changed. I look at some
of the things that I had writtenat that time. I was an improv
comedian, so there were some likesketches I would put up that were filmed,
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and I look at those now andI'm like, oh, it's funny
to see how my humor changed fromme realizing like, oh, this is
what being gay is. But Iwas making myself too much of the butt
of the joke. And now myhumor doesn't rely on me being the butt
of the joke. There's just humorthat's within the community. So it is
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interesting how it's changed, because myperspective of who I am as a gay
man has changed too. I mean, that's kind of awesome, right,
That's the evolution, which is verysciency. Right. That's actually a beautiful
segue into gay science, the evolutionof Rob's comedy. And in ten years
I'm going to look back in thehumor now and go, what was I
even doing then? Wow? Thatwas really bad, you know, But
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that's that's progress, absolutely. Imean, that's that's how it works for
everyone. Right, You're like,wow, that was thank God that I'm
here, or thanks someone, thankssomeone that I'm here. Yeah, at
this point, thanks someone. Sowhat inspired you to start your whole gay
science I guess we're going to callit a series. Yeah, it is
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a series. The preference that gaymen have for iced coffee over hot coffee
is so ubiquitous, it's so ingrained. I wanted to know why that was,
and I couldn't find any information onthat, and so I decided to
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make my own information, which wasthrough the form of fake science, in
a video that was very matter offact but so silly, and so it's
clearly so stupid, and people reallygot to kick out of it, and
people really enjoyed it, and theykept sending me more of our community stereotypes
that we have our own community jokesas things to like poke fun act because
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some of them are so silly,like not sitting in a chair properly coloring
your hair when you're in a crisis. Literally, there's just dozens and dozens
of them, and I've had funmaking fun of each one of those through
this fake science method. So whatwas what was the process like In the
very early days of gay science.What was that process? Like, did
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you like come up with a conceptand then kind of script it out?
Like how did that go? Yeah? I started with a list of all
of the stereotypes that I know ofthat I wanted to explain. And then
a lot of the times I relyon my audiences. They're really awesome and
they have really good ideas, Andon Instagram, I popped up a story
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that was like, Hey, sendme whatever stereotypes you want to explain anything
you want to explain through gay science, And so I added those to the
list, and then I kind ofprioritized which ones I thought I had a
good explanation for, and then Iput those into their own documents, and
I think about, like how canI get to that end result? What
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weird stupid path can I bring peopleon? What story can I tell to
land at a thing that's positive?So a lot of these things start with
something that's negative, like maybe wiregame and annoying? Why do we hate
terrible music? Why or do wetalk like that? Why do we run
like that? All these things thatwe get picked made fun of all the
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time, And it ends in aplace it's like, because you know,
we're better, queer people are better, we're elites. We have we've evolved,
and the rest of everyone else justhasn't caught up with it yet.
So that's the kind of path thatI wanted to take. And then in
that is all the jokes. Youjust throw in a whole bunch of jokes,
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You do a bunch of voiceovers afew times, over lay images on
top of it. I just havea lot of fun with it. They're
the most fun thing that I've evermade. I have so much joy making
them that sometimes it'll be like afew weeks till one comes out because I
think of more funny things to addinto it that just they make me laugh.
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So is the purpose of the contentthat you're creating. Do you feel
like, really, at its core, it's the social commentary, or do
you feel like comedy is really andlaughing and making people laugh is at its
core? All of them give somesort of should give you a little bit
of joy, should make you feelgood. So I don't make anything that
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makes anyone feel bad, which Ithink is a very unique thing. I
think we have a lot more wehave more positivity in content these days,
which is nice, you know,we're not those like the bitchy two tens,
like the nasty like you know,we don't have that sort of attitude
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in our culture as much anymore,which is really great. But I think
that when it comes to talking aboutour community, there's a lot of things
that like to talk negatively about it, or make some people in our community
feel weird for being the way theyare, or that if a lot of
people do a certain thing, ifit's really popular in the gay community,
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then it you know, we're gonwe're gonna talk down on that, We're
gonna make people feel bad that they'rein this in the masses that like something
that's popular. And I think whatI like to do is make people feel
good about being in our community,no matter what kind of place they have
in it. So I think that'swhat all of my stuff has its core.
But going off what you're saying,does it does it have a message?
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Does it not? Is it justto make people laugh? I think
it just depends. It doesn't alwayshave to have a message. Sometimes I
just might think an idea is reallystupid, like holding in your poop for
a while just to like remind yourselfof an x, you know, remind
your stuff that you miss him.You know, that's the so stupid,
right, Like what is that?What are you saying? Like what?
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But I'm like, I just wantto do a video about the fact that
you miss somebody, so just likeholding your poop a little bit longer to
like, you know, feel likethey're in there. I mean, that's
I don't know, there's no socialmessage there, Like I'm not really I'm
not bringing anyone to the polls tovote for any sort of social cause there.
But and then other times, youknow, I like to talk about
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the government's response to monkey box orgaze the gaze over COVID controversy. You
know, there's some other things thathave a little bit more to them.
I mean, I'm sure there arepeople who can relate to holding in their
poop just as Midge longer I wouldhope. So, I mean this video
is for them. There's definitely anaudience for every single concept. Yeah,
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so when you first got started,did did the concept go viral right away?
It wasn't one of those like youknow, you hear that story the
stories from people particularly who create contenton TikTok where it's like I put a
video up and I woke up inthe morning and I was famous. Basically,
is that how it was for you? Or was it a little more
of like a slow burn into likean inferno? You know? I think
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that it's more of a slow burn. I put a lot of effort into
my videos. Not always, butmost of them that do well, they
take a lot of time and effortand planning. I'll create fake board games
and all the individual pieces, I'llget them three D printed, and I
will make original boards, and sosome of my concepts can take over a
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month to get together. I designeverything myself. So a lot of those
things have hit really hard because peopleare sometimes just impressed by the sheer amount
of work that went into something sostupid, like just taking an idea that's
so dumb and committing to it's sohard. People just seem to enjoy those
sorts of things. So over time, you know, those things build and
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people are like, hey, Ilike this guy, Like he puts a
lot of time, in energy andeffort into these dumb ideas. So for
me, it feels like a slowburn. Even if someone individually looked at
videos, they go he just wentviral really quickly. I think I was
just working really hard. But yeah, I'd say a slow bird that's deserved,
a deserved slow burn, a deservedslow bird. Since starting Gay Science,
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Rob has partnered with the Academy Awards, made promotional content with pop star
Kim Petris, penned a number onebest selling children's book based on the infamous
twenty eighteen national Anthem performance by singerFergie, put out a song and music
video, and appeared on the DiscoveryPlus show. The Book of Queer sounds
overwhelming, to say the least interms of gay science. Right, what
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happens when that's not what you wantto do anymore? I mean, so
many things have happened already, right, I'm like, oh my god,
I am my success success. Yeah, no, thank you. We should
clap for you. But it'd beweird. I have too many ideas and
too many things that I want todo where I will just have them all
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in different documents of like long formshows that I want to make, movies
that I want to write, startlike scripts that I've started to write,
and collaborations. I'll see somebody online, I'm like, oh my god,
I love this person. It wouldbe so fun to do this and this
with them, but I'd want tomake sure that thing was the perfect match,
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and so I never approach them orDM them because I'm like, in
the back of my mind, I'mlike that that'll come to me when it
does, and then I'll reach outto them. And so I actually have
too many things that I want todo, and it would be nice to
have a less and be able toactually like focus on what that one next
thing is, which I'm trying todo. That's like I'm trying to hone
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things in and find one thing andlike really focus on it. So yeah,
I think when it comes to aseries like gay Science, I've really
never gotten tired of it goes inwaves, or if I have a lot
of good ideas, I'll have abunch in a month, and then maybe
like the next couple of months,like maybe I'll have one or two.
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I just kind of lean into whatever'smost enjoyable for me to make. But
there are sometimes where I think thingsrun its course. Like I had a
series called Boyfriend Twins and it mayeventually come back, but I did it
for like maybe about nine months,and I feel like there was like I
went through a bunch of topics withthem. I think we got to know
who these two guys were. Theywere a boyfriend twins that looked alike.
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I played both of them, andthey're dating each other. But the show
wasn't about the fact that they lookedalike. It was just about like a
slice of life in a gay couple. And people really liked it, and
I think I was like good onit. Point who were like, bring
that back, Like where did thatgo? Like we want more videos of
them? And I think I didone and I just didn't enjoy it as
much. And I'm like, well, I'm just gonna bring it back if
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I want to, if I havea good idea for it. But I
just get bored too easily. Ilike to move on from things, but
gay science is the one thing Ihaven't really gotten bored with. Recently,
Rob announced he'll be kicking off histwenty city North American comedy tour Heartthrob Live
in Black Rock City, Nevada,on August thirty first, which will conclude
in Los Angeles on December eleventh.The show features original music, presentations,
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and personal stories. He says he'skept far away from the Internet. You
can purchase tickets at Heartthrob Anderson dotcom slash Tour. You've kind of taken
everything and now you are doing itlive and on stage, which to me
sounds more terrifying. Like it's betterto put something on the internet because if
it's really doesn't hit, you canbe like, I'm gonna deel eat that
you can't delete real life embarrassment becauseit's just there. So was that terrifying
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taking the comedy you created for onlineto a live stage with real human beings
in front of you. Yeah,there was definitely nerves involved. I don't
know if I was terrified though.I was an improv performer in Chicago for
seven or eight years for the SecondCity, and iowe and the stage is
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really comfortable for me. I reallyenjoy it, but I have not been
on it since twenty sixteen, soit was I was a little nervous because
it had been about seven years,six years since I stepped on a stage,
and it was stand out a lotof stand up that I was doing,
all new material, So I waslike, I just didn't know how
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people were going to respond to it. But it's a room full of people
that already like me and enjoy mein these shows that I've had leading up
to the tour. So the audienceswere just fire and the material really landed,
which was great, and I refinedit even more. A bit of
a perfectionist, so after that firstshow, I was like, okay,
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like what worked, what didn't?How can I make that better? And
I spent another month of like refiningit, and then I did in front
of a new audience in San Diego, and I saw what they liked and
didn't like, and then I refinedit more, and so like over time,
I just came up with what I'mreally confident to say, It is
like an awesome funny show and I'mexcited to do it in the fall.
Is it really fucking funny, It'sit's really fucking funny. It's really gay.
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It's really really gay. And I'vehad some straight people in the audience,
and I think they enjoy it too. There's there's a moment, there's
a moment for the straight If theydon't, it's fine, yeah, yeah,
but it's really gay. And it'sall the things that I've been wanting
to say, stories, I've wantedto tell, jokes I've wanted to make
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that I can't really make on theinternet, especially not places like TikTok where
it's like heavily moderated. It's allof those more explicit things and more personal
things that I think when you're onstage and you're in an environment where it's
just you and the audience, itjust feels more intimate. And that's the
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kind of show that I've put together. Can you give us like a little
taste of what people should expect?It should be explicit, it's very gay.
Yes, it's the basis of itis storytelling personal stories taken from my
life that I've wanted to tell,and innersplice in those are original songs.
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Some of those are songs that peoplehave may have heard, original songs.
Yes, I love this. Yes, there are songs that I've released two
songs out now, comedy pop songs. Those are in the show, as
well as other songs that are justonly really should exist within the confines of
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the show to give them context.And then original presentations. So it's a
variety of sorts of stand up storytelling, presentations in music, and a little
bit of nudity. Wait there's nowoh wait, okay, so this is
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fitting. I was getting excited forthe nudity. Oh there's a little bit.
Okay, twenty one plus you gottabe twenty or twenty one. Well,
the first question is who's nude?Is it you? I'm assuming so
because it's called it's the Heartthrob Tour? Correct, Yes, but the audience
you're nude. The audience is nude. Oh, you don't know until you
don't know until you come in,And I'm like, don't you love this?
That's super fun? Everyone get naked. Did did you name your tour
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heartthrob? Did you are you aself described heartthrob? Or did people say
like you are heartthrob? That shouldbe the name of the tour. My
original Instagram name was really boring.I think it was like Rob Anderson eight
eight Rob Anderson eight and I waslike, I need a pun, I
need a pun in my name,and so a few years back I changed
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it and that's that's the one Idecided to come up with. So no,
nobody actually calls me a heartthrob itself. I call myself it which is
so cool, isn't it? Whata cool thing to name yourself a compliment?
Yes? So how many? Iknow? You actually have a lot
of your tours are several of them? Are already sold out. I think
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Portland has sold out and maybe Seattlessold out. But you're going everywhere from
like Texas to Hawaii. I mean, I think you're on the East Coast
a little bit dabbling in like Philadelphia. So there are a lot of places
for people to see you. Wherecan they buy your tickets? Yes,
I'm in twenty cities. I actuallywanted to hit up every single city in
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the United States and North America.And my tour agent was like, you
know, her name is Rachel.She's amazing. She was like, this
is your first tour, you know, like, why don't we just try
to dial it in. But shegot all the cities that I wanted and
she got amazing clubs in them.You can get tickets at Hearthrob Anderson slash
Tour Heartthrob Anderson dot com slash Tourand I'm in Texas and Florida and everywhere
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on the East Coast. I'm inToronto and yes, even in Honolulu.
Will end my tour in Honolulu.So there's a lot of places to see
me. And it is selling out. We sold that I think seven of
the shows so far, and Ithink they're all going to sell out is
what I'm told. So that's veryexciting. So if you do want to
go see Heartthrob Live, you needto get tickets. I mean, by
the time this comes out, probablyyou're too late. It's silver, but
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you're too late, but hopefully not. You might as well check and make
sure that you're not too late.Rob is a vocal advocate when it comes
to LGBTQ plus rights and issues,so I wanted to get his pulse check
on some current issues the queer communityis facing. What are your thoughts on
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some pertinent issues to the LGBTQ pluscommunity that don't say gay Bill, even
just the precariousness of queer rights inour country, specifically after the overturning of
Rov Wade, the government's response toMonkey Pocks. So I'd love to know
about kind of the the issues thatare really important to you right now and
just why you feel like you should, I guess use your platform for those
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those issues. Yeah. I um, it can be really depressing reading and
seeing what's happening, because, likea lot of things, you think you
have a little bit of progress.And I mean when we had gay marriage
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throughout all fifty states in twenty fifteen. You know, a lot of mostly
CIS gay men felt like okay,fine, like we're finally all equal,
but it is not the case.There's a lot of people under the LGBTQ
plus umbrella that don't have that equality, that are are more stigmatized. And
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I think that even now seeing what'shappening in Florida and how other states are
seeing that don't say gay bill andmaking their own versions of it, the
fight really never ends. And itcan be exhausting and really frustrating seeing it.
Um, but we have to noticethat it's happening, realize we're going
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to take some losses and things aregoing to have to we're going to be
pushed back, but we're not goingto stop talking about it, and we're
not gonna stop showing how absolutely ridiculousit is. And I do that through
comedy. It's it's just my wayof communicating. It's my way of like
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showing my thoughts M. But everyonedoes it in their own way, and
so yeah, I think that that'slike just a it's a very important thing
for me. Where can all ofthe people into the rock and in a
cave. No shame for cave dwellersbut where can they follow you on social
media if they're not already. OnInstagram it's heart Throb Anderson, and on
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TikTok it's heart Throbberts, and onTwitter it's a smart Throb. Oh my
gosh, the puns. I know. It's mainly because my name was taken
in each one of these subsequent things, so I couldn't. I had to
find new wage, a new wayto call myself, a new thing,
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and then YouTube's just my name.Well, thank you so so much for
coming on the podcast and taking timeaway from my guests. You are probably
like knee deep creating new content forTikTok that's going to be out in like
a month or so, because it'staking a long time for you to make
a new board game or something.But I really appreciate you taking the time
to be on the podcas past andto talk to us about all of these
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things. LEVI, thank you forhaving me. This was so much fun.
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