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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Strawt Media.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
What is a favorite that you could not get yourself
to do for someone?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Really, I keep saying it threesomes. Never do that as
a simple favor. It's not simple, it's convoluted.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So someone would just come up and I have a
simple favor threesome.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
That is the dead rock of the LGBTQ IA plus community.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hi, I'm Caitlin McDaniel and welcome back to Pride. I
remember the first time I ever saw this guest for
the Week and they were starring on Glee, which I
won't lie, I wasn't a huge Glee fan, but I
did watch this aspect which was like the reality who
is going to be on Glee competition series and they
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were a star from the get go. I want to
say that I called it right when it began that
they were going to be a star. They didn't even
win the series, but I was like that one I
see it, and ever since then, I've always whenever they
pop up up in a project, I feel like a connection,
Like I was like I caused this, even though I
take no claim at any of their fame. But without
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further ado, Alex Nuwell is a huge star. I love
everything they're a part of and I'm so excited for
everyone to see them in their new project, another simple favor,
which we are going to dive into this week on
the podcast. We're also going to talk about their amazing career,
how they became the first non binary identifying Tony Award winner,
and so much more. So be sure to stay tuned.
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The new movie stars Anna Kendrick, Blake Lively. It's so fun,
it's so camp. I did not think anything could top
the first movie. Everyone watched it during COVID and just
kind of latched onto it and it's chaotic in the
best way. And then sequel, definitely, it definitely lives up
to it, and Alex brings an amazing fierceness queerness to it.
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So be sure to check it out on Prime video.
And without further ado, let's get into the interview. Hi Alex, Hi,
you look beautiful.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
This is such a huge movie. I'm so excited to
see you be a part of it and keep shining.
I love always seeing where you're going next. I remember
from Glee project, and then every time I get to
see your wonderful phrase, I'm like I know them, So
it always feels so fun. How has this whole experience
felt for you?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Wonderful? It's been a whirlwind ever since, Like the beginning
of it all, I was doing so much back then,
I was I got the offer while I was just
ending a Broadway run, and then I was doing a
concert of a show in London at the same time
as filming the movie, and then you know, doing both
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double duty. Then the year two met Gal pops up
while also planning a show concert that lives on Audible
right now, it was just so much. So this whole
journey has just been fast and furious.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, I want to talk about so much that you
just grazed over. I mean, you're really having such fun
moments right now. But I mean just to like get
us kind of going into it, like going back to
your Glee days, you were always trailblazing. Then when you
got added onto this show, it was like so much
representation was coming to screen. But what's something that you
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learned from that experience that still sticks with you today, you.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Know, giving in I think being on the Glee Project
and Glee it was all about like yourself and what
you offer, and it wasn't really just about like being
able to sing, dance, and act. It was kind of
like being able to give into the process a lot
of the time and really kind of being fine with that.
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And I think when you're so selfless you give yourself
to a process or into anything, they're such a freedom
to that and you're easy, Like it's easier to do
a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Going off of that. I mean, you're just kind of
talking about just throwing yourself into things. And I know
you do go into so many different forms of media.
Where do you feel the most at home?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Oof It always comes up. I love everything I love.
I love being on the Broadway. I love doing musical theater.
I love doing theater in general. I love being on TV,
I love filming things. They all feed so much to me,
and there's such different experiences and really do get like
addicted to each one of the experiences. Like I can
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say that I went on tour and I opened for
Adam Lambert as a recording artist. I can say that
I started a movie with Blake Lively, Ana Kendrick, Alice
and Jenny and more. And I can say that I
have a Tony Award. Like they all give me so
many things, things that I always dreamed of having, but
still like I get to do them all. Not everybody
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gets s if they've done them all. Normally you're told
that you can only do one at a time, and
then if you want to be great, just be great
at one.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So do you feel that there is a pressure when
you are, like you said, doing so many things at once,
that you're worried?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
No, No, I don't think that. I think if it's
all congruent to who you are and you can give yourself,
like I said, into the process, it is kind of easy.
The only the hardest thing about it is having to
say no thing just because it doesn't fit in your schedule,
and that is a good one to have sometimes.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Can you share, Like, what's the craziest thing you've turned down?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I did? I was on like a mini tour with
Clean Bandit in the UK and I got sick and
I had to turn down playing glass and Bear. Oh man, Yeah,
that's the that's the one thing. But I do listen
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to my body. My body. It's just like no, Babs,
we can't do it. So that's the craziest thing that
I've had to turn down, which is wild that I
can sid Yeah, you know, I turned down Glass and Berry.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Right, I was like, now it's now, it's another story.
I did that.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I was like, yeah, I've done, You've done Coachella. But
I turned out Glass.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And Berry and I was I was speaking to another
actor earlier this week, Griffin Matthews, who's in the new
season of You.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Idea of I do love Griffin. I've known Gryffin for years,
so I love Griffin.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
He's amazing. And we were just talking about, like, you know,
the presence of queer black people and how obviously there's
still not enough. We're still not seeing, you know, where
we need to be. But he was talking about how
when he gets booked for things, he feels like this disruptor.
Like anytime of queer black person comes on to a
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show or onto a project, the character is this disruptor.
So I wanted to hear just like your thoughts on
that idea and where queer black people are fitting right
now in Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
You know, it's always a new thing, even though it's
been around forever, and you know, people write what they
know and sence. A lot of people don't know a
lot of the queer blacks, even though they are friends
with them and they've always been around and they know them.
They don't write that because it's not a crystal experience
that they have, And I think it's a lot of
we have to really change that narrative and really be
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active in how we're writing these characters in not a
one dimensional space. And it's really hard to like not
write a one dimensional character because it's like, I love
the idea, but I don't know the emthasis of that idea.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
So what made you want to take this role in.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Another Well, you know, Vicky is so connglruent to who
I am. Someone that wants to go on vacation and
drink free bottles of wine in one setting. Absolutely, Yeah,
So that was it. Also, I love Paul Figue. Paul
did was an executive reducer of So he's sortinary playlist
that I did years ago, not that many years I'm
saying this, I'm old, but like a couple of years ago.
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And so to get to work with him again was fun.
So I really and I love the first movie.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, and I talked to him as well, and we
kind of just got into how much more representation this
movie got to bring in. Obviously, everyone loved the first
one m tension between you know, the two main leads,
but definitely yeah, pushes it further. So how did you
feel about this one in particular pushing those boundaries?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You know, I'm all about pushing boundaries. I think that
we should push more boundaries. I think it arnt moves
when we pushed the line further and further away of
what people know and what they'll accept and how they
view things. So I love being able to bring different
representation and show that not everything is what it looks
like all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What was the most fun on the side, I mean
it looked like you just had a blast. You have
the best lines.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It was fun. I mean I did everything that I
never thought that I would do in life of you know,
being on a boat, private boat coming into Capri. Going
to Capri. I've never in my life almost shut down
an airport what do they call it tarmac? Because we
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were filming on an actual tarmac. I was just like,
what is this? This is oh, I have to go
to security after I peek great. I love this. So
that it was that it was getting on a boat
to go to another boat, to go to a restaurant.
That was fun. We just had a good time, the
entire time.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Obviously, these movies are insane with their plots and their
just willingness to just be chaotic. And so many people
are talking about, you know, like like the sister kissing,
which isn't surprising after the brother yes first one, but
what do you think people are not talking about enough
about this movie?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oh my god, there are so many things that they're
not talking about. The fact that Dante was in the
super relationship also cute, the fact that, oh my god,
what else they're all blanking that you have like the
sister storyline, but they were not talking about the other
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sister storyline with Alison and my goodness, Elizabeth Perkins. Like
that relationship and how crazy that is. I think that
was always like top of my list. Also, I genuinely
still don't know who killed Henry Golden in the movie.
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Oh everyone just said, oh, I genuinely don't know who
was the person that killed them, and we still don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I thought it was Charity, but is that not confirmed?
It could have been Charity, It could have Okay, so
really there's still unsolved mysteries that yeah dive into.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay, ah, soo, who takes care of Nicky?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Now, Stephanie, you're making me question my whole belief.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I don't take care of Nicky now, like does NICKI
go places?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
All right, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, that's for the third one to tell us. Do
you do you think people should ever agree to simple favors?
Are they ever actually simple?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I mean, some simple favors you can agree to you,
but some are not a non stars not negotiables.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, I mean if it comes in like a little envelope,
maybe not that's given.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, I don't think so. It's very ominous.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, what is a favor that you could not get
yourself to do? For someone?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Giving people money? Yeah, and I've done it and it's fine,
and I always but it's like it's always like a yeah,
it's like, oh god, I really have to love you.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Is there an amount or it's even like two dollars
or like.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
No, there's an amount? Yeah, it's like and really, I
keep saying it threesomes. Never do that as a simple favor. Okay,
it's not simple. It's convoluted.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Is that considered a favor.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
To someone to some yes?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Okay, so someone would just come up and I have
a simple favor threesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I think that is the bedrock of the LGBTQ I
A plus community. You're right, I think that. I think
that's what pride is made of.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, yeah, but you're saying no to it.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
No, not, if I know Dall.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
What else are you loving right now? I mean, Pride
Month is coming up, so we're so excited to see
what everyone's going to be bringing for that. Obviously, Pride
you around, but what are you looking forward to?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Oh my god, I'm looking forward to growing as a community,
especially in these perilous times, and what that means for
us going forward, and how will rally and try not
to be divided in a lot of things, even though
some division is already starting to start, but how quickly
we can shut that down. I'm excited for that conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Do you have any big plans going on for.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
J Absolutely not. I'm doing far too much right now.
I think I want to like go to sleep in
a hyph bear chamber for a couple months.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
That is fair. I mean, you just rocked the met gala.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Oh my god. Yes, my feet back and it's still
hurt from my heavy gown. So we're good.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
What goes into that process. What goes into that big day.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Lots of stress, lots and lots of stress. I mean
you start hair and makeup at like noon at least,
I do you try to get ready. You're taking photos
the entire time. You have the dress delivered, you're getting ready,
You get poured into your car or just shoved in
and pray to God that nothing gets wrinkled of brakes.
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And then you're on the carpet, and then you walk
up the steps and then you're you're done. It ends
at steps, It doesn't end. There was a whole thing
that happens inside. You see the exhibit, which is lovely, but.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You're you're it's go go go up until then.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It is go go go up until then. And then
finding a dress is always fun.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
What was the thought behind yours?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You know, my inspiration was always Andre and you know,
it's my third time working with Christian on the met
and the it just kind of I think what it
turned out to be was kind of like an upside
down tuxedo. Okay, like you know, you weren't tucks on,
it's upside down. You have little pillow pels hanging from
the top. So it was kind of that idea.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
All right, I loved it, it looked, it looked wonderful.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Thank you, You've.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Done so much. Where do you want to go next?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Retirement?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Okay, yeah, retirement.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
No. I keep saying this. I'm very open. I don't
want to put pressure on anything. I just kind of
want to see where I started my career. I didn't
think that I'd ever be on TV. I never thought
that I'd be on Glee. The Glee project kind of
fell into my lap as typically because I lost the
Glee project, and so I kind of had this air
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of just like being open to the projects that come
to me. I mean, I wasn't even I wasn't looking
for Shocked the Broadway musical, I just did. I wasn't
looking for that. A friend of mine texted me and said, hey,
do you want to be on Broadway in the spring,
and I was just like, sure, why not?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I don't know who turns that down?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Smart people. It shows us a lot, true, I.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Mean clearly, yeah, you're like, I'm ready for my vacation time. Yes,
we are still excited to keep seeing you shine.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I like, I'm like, what's next? What would be what
would be a dream role for you if you were
to choose.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Oh god, I've played one, like right now, I was.
I'm obsessed with No Carter and I've always been obsessed
with No Carter and her first Broadway show that she did,
eight Misbehavin. I've always been in love with and love
so I kind of want to do that one. I
always keep Effie on the back burner from dream Girls,
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just just keeping her at a light simmer because it
is a big role and that would take a lot.
But I think those are my top two right now.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
What are you doing like in between these roles to
really staying grounded and stay sane.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I'm not grounded, and no, I don't think anyone's truly
sing but I like to be not in touch with
but like I like to be around my friends and
people that make me happy. I think that's what keeps
you grounded and keeps you truthful and keeps you refreshed
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because like, at the end of the day, especially in
my position, there are so many people that want something
from you all the time. And be around people that
just want you to have fun and thrive and drink
and eat and be fed is always fun and needed.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And just speaking, I mean in a simple flavor. You know,
the martini is big. What is your drink of choice?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Hendricks and Tonic? Oh, what's that giant cube? No, just
Hendricks Gin and Tonic or the big cube? No fruit?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
No, no, no, really just no, just.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
The liquor and the tonic water.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
It sounds good, honestly, it's refreshing, it's it's great. Well,
thank you so much. That's all I have for today,
But thank you for being so wonderful.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Is Caitlin.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
That's a wrap on my chat with Alex. Be sure
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