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All witnesses, suspects, and persons of interest are considered innocent
until proven guilty in a court of law. Welcome to
Primetime Crime. I'm your host, Kylie. Let's talk right now
on true crime, and then together we are going to
work on warming up some cold cases. Let's go. Hey, guys,
welcome to another episode of Primetime Crime. It's Kylie Today's episode.
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The actual story in case I have for you guys
today is a little on the shorter side, much shorter
than typical because there's really not a lot of information
in this case. But I still wanted to bring it
to you. It's been on my list for a while,
so I very much wanted to tell the story. But
we are going to do a little extended right now
on True Crime since there is a lot to catch
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up on. I am starting to record this on Wednesday,
and I will finish recording it on Thursday before the
episode is released, because there's a lot of things kind
of in limbo hanging in the balance that I want
to wait for Thursday to record, one of them being
the Menendez brothers hearing. One hearing is tomorrow and the
other one is on Friday, and we should have a
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pretty good idea about what's going to be going on
with that. Hopefully by the time I finished recording tomorrow
will at least know one of the brothers recommendations. So
it's a big deal parole hearing. We're going to talk
more about that a little later on in Right Now.
In True Crime, they are currently in the process of
selecting a jury for the Donna Adelson trial, the fifth
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person to go to trial for the murder for hire
of Dan Markel, her former son in law. It's going
to get interesting. They're in the process of taking the jury.
I'm hopeful that they're going to be done with that
by Thursday, and then they are going to start openings
on Friday. But I will continue to keep you guys
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updated on that. Brandon Lawson, I have talked about him
before on this podcast. He went missing back in twenty thirteen.
I had talked about that, but they hadn't wanted to
release his remains to his family, and his family was
fighting to get his remains back, and they finally have
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released the remains, thank goodness. And they are planning a
celebration for life for Brandon at the end of the
month August thirtieth, they are going to also try to
do a live stream since there has been so many
people who have publicly followed his case. His story still
really confuses me. I don't know if we're ever going
to really know what happened to Brandon. But his family
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waited a long time to be able to bring his
remains home and give him the burial and funeral that
he deserves and the memorial that he deserves. So that
is going to be taking place at the end of
August in Barlson, Texas. So stay tuned to social media.
I'll be sharing if you're interested. If you followed along
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with Brandon's story, I have since it happened in twenty thirteen,
So twelve years later, he finally gets to be late
to rest by his family and that is worth celebrating
if nothing else. Okay, Idaho Forefront, we have a little
bit of a BK update. So there was a video
leaked from inside of a cell. Ada County denied that
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it was from them, but of course this has turned
into a huge controversy because whoever leaked to the video
is likely going to lose their job. It's just a
video of him inside of a cell. He looks like
he's watching a TV which is kind of encapsulated in
this metal frame kind of sort of. It's obviously a
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small TV, and he's kind of pacing back and forth.
He puts something on a shelf at one point in time.
So whoever released that video is in major trouble because
that is a huge no no, huge, huge no no.
But this case has been so sensationalized that everything about
him is being released. There's been more documents released, more
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people that gave statements initially that said that he was
really creepy, they had a bad feeling about him, complaints
at the school against him. This is the kind of
stuff I always tell people, like, trust your gut. Someone
like BK doesn't just emerge one day and then decide
that he's going to go brutally murder for innocent kids
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while they sleep in their home. That's not something that
you just wake up one day and decide to do.
There's planning, there is preparation, there is thought behind it.
And even though he didn't necessarily know them, he planned
this out. He stalked them, he knew the house, he
knew the layout, he knew when was the best time
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to strike. He planned it out and he's a creep.
If you listen to all of the different people that
have given their take on things and the way that
he acted, he was a creeper through and through, a creeper.
He's also apparently been really upset because the other inmates
are harassing him and keeping him up at all hours
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of the night and just not treating him very nice.
And I hope it gets worse for him, truly. I
hope it gets worse if that's true. I hope that
they continually make his life miserable, because that's exactly what
he deserves. So speaking of people that deserve to live
in misery, Lori Valodabell has been placed back in Idaho.
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She made her final trip home, where she will spend
the rest of her life behind bars. She is, of course,
appealing both of her Arizona cases, the one against Brandon
Boudreaux and against the murder of her husband, Charles Vallow,
And she thinks that she's really something. She thinks she's
gonna miraculously be free one day. But she's got another
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thing common because she just got back to Idaho and
that is her home, sweet home for the rest of
her life. And she is going to serve out the
remainder of her years living in a very small cell.
And we couldn't be happier for her in that. The
individual who was tried and officially found guilty of murdering
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mother Rachel Morin, Victor Martinez Hernandez, was sentenced to life
in prison without parole plus forty additional years. Again, we
love that for him, that is where he deserves to be.
He brutally took Rachel's life while she was on a run.
She was a mother of five, She had a devoted
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boyfriend and she went out for a run and he
attacked her and murdered her, and also attacked and harmed
other people as well. Rachel was not his only victim,
and that is how they eventually came to be able
to make an arrest and take him to trial, and
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thank goodness, they got to guilty verdict and he's going
to be locked up for life. The justice system often
is flawed, but a lot of the times it goes
really smoothly and they get it right. And that's exactly
what happened in this case. And I'm glad he will
never see the light of day again. Okay, this story
I've been kind of waiting to speak on for right
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now in true crime. Obviously, if you know me in
real life or we're Internet friends, we've talked about it.
If you've asked me about it, I've given you my opinion.
But we have got to talk about this seven month
old baby, Emmanuel Harrow, who has been missing allegedly since
August fourteenth. So this is right outside of San Bernardino, California.
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This seven month old baby apparently was with his mom.
His mom and dad and a couple other siblings were
at a I think it was a football game, some
type of sporting event situation for one of the other children,
and the mom realized that one of the kids needed
a mouthguard, so she went to a store, took the
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baby to the store, and then realized on their way
into the store that the baby needed a diaper change
and went to change the baby's diaper in the back seat,
and at that point, she says she was attacked from behind,
but she ended up getting punched in the eye and
falling onto the ground and knocked out, I guess, and
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then when she woke up, the baby was gone. So
they're saying the baby is kidnapped. So they gave an
interview the parents, and her black eye, in my opinion,
is not fresh. I've seen a fresh black eye. I
know what a fresh black eye looks like. Hers is
obviously in a later stage of healing. But again that
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is just my opinion, and the video and the interview
is very Chris watsish. We just want we just want
them back, bring them back, very Chris Watts vibes, in
my opinion. And then there's the part of it where
investigators are asking different questions and they're realizing that there
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is some inconsistencies in the mom's story, and they start
pressing mom and dad about these inconsistencies, and the parents
start refusing to cooperate. So they're saying no more, they
want lawyers, all the things, which there's nothing wrong with
wanting a lawyer in a situation like this when there
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is a probability that these parents did not do anything
to harm their child, But there's also the probability that
there's something more going on here than a random kidnapping.
So them wanting a lawyer and refusing to cooperate is
not really the greatest feeling in the world, especially because
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Dad has a prior for injuring his child. He pled
guilty to willful child cruelty after his then ten week
old daughter was admitted to a hospital with broken bones
in twenty eighteen. They apparently have been searching the family's
home and surrounding areas. They've obviously been searching for a manual,
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and they seized the dad's car, and there's just a
lot going on. I don't know what's going to come
of this as more comes out, if there's an update.
Like I said, I'm recording this on Wednesday. If there's
an update tomorrow, I will tack it on to the
end of this episode, and I'll be sharing on social
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media if there is any updates. But I just do
not have a good feeling about it. Today they did
say that there was a potential sighting of a manual.
I will believe it when he is home safe and
sound if that's the case. But it's all very interesting
and we are going to see what comes it. But
I will continue to keep you guys updated. All Right,
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So since I recorded yesterday, more has come out about
Brian Coburger. He has filed two formal complaints and I
honestly don't even know one is saying that he is
being sexually harassed. You can look it up if you want.
It's quite interesting. The other one, I'm going to read
it because it's just it's insane to me. I have
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on several occasions not received all items of food on
my tray. I addressed this during service. I can't read
his handwriting and have yet to receive any replacements. In fact,
the kitchen is not even called the policy cook confirms
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items missing which are pointed out at the time of
service will be replaced. I wish to, without exception, receive
those replacements, addressing the issue you with staff at the
time of meal service. That is like how he said,
I tried to formally solve. Informally solve the problem, I
suggest the following solution for the problem. I wish for
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the items to be called two and items replaced. When
this occurs. The nutritional standard is not being upheled, unless
I something might receive my full tray, like nobody cares,
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to be quite honest with you, and nobody cares. Also,
seeing his handwriting is wild because he was in a
master's program and I'm just really confused why he writes
like a third grader. It's awful, Like, there's some words
I couldn't even read. It was really difficult to read.
So how did this individual get accept it into a
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master's level type program? I have major questions. All Right,
I very much wait as long as I could to
update you on Eric's parole hearing today. It is still ongoing.
It's earlier in California than it is where I live.
But I'm just going to have to keep you guys
updated on social media because I need to get this
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episode put together and get it out. So stay tuned
to my socials for that, and I'm sure if you
follow any type of social media you will definitely see it.
So we're going to go ahead and get into today's episode.
Remember this one is a little bit on the shorter side,
but I still want it to cover it. But I
appreciate you guys so so much for listening. All Right, guys,
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today we are jumping in to a brand new unsolved
missing person's case. I am going to be telling you
about the twenty sixteen disappearance of a nineteen year old
girl named Donna k Cloud from Splendora, Texas. As always,
I'm going to start with a bit of background information
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on Donna and a surprising connection into a well known
who I would consider a pop culture icon, Anna Nicole Smith.
So let's get into it. Donna K. Cloud was born
on June seventh of nineteen ninety seven to her parents,
Darryl Beattie and Shelley Cloud. Shelley is actually the cousin
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of the one and only Anna Nicole Smith, and there
is even a clip of Shelley interacting with Anna Nicole
on Anna Nicole's E Network show. So that was for
me a really interesting little tidbit of information because I
have always been fascinated by Anna Nicole Smith and that
connection just kind of had me mind blown. So shortly
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after Donna was born, her mom, Shelley left, and her
father wasn't really super heavily involved in her care. I
do not know the exact dynamics between the two of them,
but I know that Shelley herself, Donna's mom, did suffer
from some substance abuse issues. So Donna ended up being
raised by her paternal grandparents in Shepherd, Texas. She grew
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up into a young woman and had her whole life
ahead of her. When she was sixteen, Donna became pregnant
and gave birth to a little boy named Ryan. Now
I saw some contradictory information on this, so this is alleged,
but there is reports that Donna had essentially given up
custody of her son to the child's father. She was
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young and struggling with a number of different things, so
I'm sure giving up her son was likely at the
time the right thing for her to do. According to
reports and different articles I've seen, Donna really struggled a
lot from the abandonment of her biological parents, So this
is very much a contributing factor to some of the
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circumstances surrounding Donna's life. She was young, she was trying
her best. She was trying to get on her feet
and be able to make it in life. And it's
difficult when you are brought up in a situation where
the circumstances aren't the best. It's really really hard to
break that cycle. And she was trying. She was trying
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to do what she could. Donna had also just gotten
out of an abusive relationship and had reconnected with her dad,
Daryl in twenty fifteen. She did make the decision to
move in with her father, Daryl and her stepmother in Splendora,
Texas shortly before she went missing. So she reconnects with
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her dad, Daryl in twenty fifteen, and then she ends
up moving in with him, and then we're going to
jump forward to October twenty fifth of twenty and sixteen,
and this is going to set up her timeline for
Donna going missing. So, in the initial part of the investigation, Donna,
like I said, went missing, and it was put forward
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that Donna had left the home that she shared with
her father and stepmother to go on a blind date
with a man that she had met online and they
were supposed to be meeting in Kingwood. So I don't
know why the story even happened, why it became a thing,
but that was not true. And this is why I
think there is a lot of questions in Donna's story
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because we really don't have a lot of definitive facts
and answers because this undrue story was reported as fact,
but it's not. So what actually happened is there was
some type of disagreement between Daryl and his daughter Donna,
and basically Daryl had asked Donna to leave and from
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there she was picked up by two men, both of
which I assumed have been found and interviewed. One of
them said he dropped her back off later that night. Now,
I don't know if that means back off at her
father and stepmother's house or back off somewhere else, but
his version of it events is that he dropped Donna
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back off somewhere now, either shortly before or shortly after
midnight on October twenty sixth of twenty sixteen, Donna's Facebook
account had accepted a couple of friend requests from two men.
She was also noted to be active and online in
the early morning hours of October twenty seventh of twenty sixteen,
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and it looked like she had been searching Facebook for
some friends and also active on Google dot Com. Now,
from what is known, it is believed that she was
traveling between Conrod, Texas and Houston, Texas, but her trail
ended in the West Chase area of Houston around one
am on October twenty seventh of twenty sixteen, and that
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is the last time anybody saw or heard from Donna k. Cloud. Now,
like I said, she did have an abusive ex boyfriend,
and there was also another man in her life that
had allegedly threatened her Now the boyfriend did ex boyfriend
did pass a polygraph, which is very much a take
it or leave it. Whatever you think about polygraph tests,
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if you think they are reliable, take that for what
it's worth. I don't really see anything that points to
the ex boyfriend other than him being abusive in the past.
I don't see anything really pointing to him being involved
in her disappearance, just for what I have found in
my own opinion. Now, Donna left everything behind. She left
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her money, she left her id, she left her clothes.
She also left behind her three year old son, which
is something I don't believe that Donna would have done
on her own free will. Donna's father, Darryl, said that
even though they did have a strained relationship, he doesn't
think that Donna would have abandoned her family. And I
can very much see that you can have a very
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tough relationship with those that surround you and still not
be willing to leave everything behind and kind of start
anew She just doesn't really seem the type that would
abandon everything and leave everything behind. She had just moved
back in with her father and stepmother, and although there
was a disagreement or an argument, It doesn't make any
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sense that she would have just decided that that was
it and she was going to pack up and move
away when she did have other people surrounding her that
really cared other distant relatives, grandmother, grandfather, her sister. She
had a lot of people surrounding her that really loved
and cared for her. And these were people that she
was close with and people that I'm sure she could
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confide in if something was going on. But in my opinion,
there is so many unanswered questions in Donna's case. I
would really love to know where this blind date story
originated from, because why did that even come up? Initially,
that was a huge distraction from the real story, which
was Donna was somewhere and all of a sudden, this
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unknown blind date person from Kingwood was thrust into it.
But it just doesn't make any sense as to why
it came up in the first place. Was it just
a misunderstanding? I don't really know. When Donna disappeared in
twenty sixteen, she was only nineteen years old. She was
between five foot and five foot two in height and
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ninety five to eight hundred and thirty pounds. She was
wearing a burgundy T shirt, blue jeans with a hole
in the back right pocket, and white canvas shoes. She
left behind a hard phone case that also functioned as
her wallet, which means she left behind her wallet and
this was found in her dad's car a few weeks
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after she went missing. She is a Caucasian female with
brown hair and brown eyes. Her ears are pierced and
her nose is pierced on the right side. I'm going
to list off all of Donna's tattoos because these are
very identifiable features and they are very important. She has
a diamond on her right ring finger, a cross on
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her right index finger, words loves enough on her collarbone,
the word faith incursive on the inside of her right forearm,
a crown on the inside of her forearm, and script
writing on the back of her right shoulder blade reading
God is within her, she will not fail. She also
has deep dimples in both of her cheeks. For me,
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this story has a lot of holes in it, a
lot of questions. There was unfortunately misinformation that was put
out there initially. There is a lot of people involved
in this that I have a lot of questions for.
But the most important thing that we can do as
a community is getting Donna's story out there, her name,
her face, photos of her tattoos, because somebody knows something.
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Somebody possibly could have seen something that they don't even
realize that they saw. So, as always, it's so important
and imperative that we thrust this story out as much
as we can. If you do have any information about
Donna cake Clouds disappearance or her possible whereabouts, or have
information related to anybody that she might have been involved
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with leading up to her disappearance, you are encouraged to
call the Montgomery County Crime Stoppers at A one eight
hundred three nine two seven eight sixty seven, or you
can submit a tip at www dot Montgomery County crimestoppers
dot org. In twenty eighteen, there was an article published
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that the family had held a big sale and raffle
outside of a New Caney Academy and it was basically
done to help raise awareness and money for the family
to continue their search for Donna, and some deranged human
basically came up and sold the raffle money that they
had in a jar. This person was just being a jerk,
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taunting the family, saying that what they were doing was
pointless because they were going to quote unquote find her
dead anyway, which is just truly horrible to bring up
to a grieving family that's trying to raise awareness for
their missing loved one. I don't know if this person
was ever caught, if they were ever apprehended, or if
they were ever even identified, but this is also somebody
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that I would like to talk to. Were they just
somebody who was random, a random jerk in the store,
or were they somebody who knew something more and was
kind of taunting the family? I have questions. I need
to know more. Unfortunately, there are people out there that
will kind of prey upon a grieving family like this
and use that vulnerability to taunt them and make them
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feel worse, And I think that is just awful and horrible,
and I don't even know why people even think that
that's an okay thing to do. So I do think
that there are people out there that know what happened
to Donna. I would really like to know more about
the two guys that allegedly picked her up and then
dropped her back off. I want to know did law
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enforcement thoroughly question them. I would imagine that they have
been thoroughly questioned, But it's obvious that she did have
her phone with her, but then the trail kind of
went cold on the twenty seventh, So what does that mean?
Was she in contact with anyone or right before that?
I have so many questions about this one, but I
do think that the answers are out there. We just
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have to put Donna's name and her face out there
and tell her story and hope that somebody will come
forward with information. Her family runs a Facebook group called
Missing Donna k Cloud, and I will also link that
below as well in the show notes, because in a
case like this, exposure really is key. Unfortunately, it hasn't
really gotten a lot of local or national attention. I
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first came across it on Facebook when it was shared
by Donna's family, but I didn't know about this until
many years after it happened. And it's almost been ten
years since Donna went missing, and that is long enough
that her family has had to wait for answers. Also,
keep in mind, if Donna k Cloud is still out there,
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she would be twenty eight years old today. That really
puts it into perspective when we know that she was
nineteen years old when she went missing. I know this
one was a little bit shorter, but it's one that
I've wanted to share for a while. So thank you
guys so much for listening to Donna's story. Like I said,
it's such an important one to tell and to get
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out there. Please go to my social media. I'll be
sharing photos of Donna, some photos of her tattoos as well.
Share this episode with the people that you follow, because
it is so important that we get more eyes and
ears on Donna's face and her story, and hopefully somebody
out there knows something and is willing to come forward,
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or loyalties have changed and they're willing to speak about
what they know, because it is very, very important. Donna
could be anywhere at this point, even out of the
state of Texas. Texas is big, but it's been almost
ten years, so she could be anywhere at this point.
So thank you guys so much for listening. I will
see you next week for a brand new Unsolved case.
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I hope you have a great weekend and I will
see you then. Bye.