August 12, 2024 • 43 mins
Voices of the Victimized: Monica Monet's Story
In this harrowing episode, host Michi J of 'A Prisoner's Pardon' podcast interviews Monica Monet, who opens up about her life as a victim of trafficking and prostitution. Monica shares heart-wrenching stories of being passed around as a child, facing severe abuse, and how she ended up in the life of prostitution. The discussion covers her personal experiences, the complexities of sex trafficking, and the psychological impact of such trauma. Monica also talks about her path to healing, self-love, and her plans to write a book about her life story. This episode aims to shed light on the often overlooked perspective of victims in the context of prison reform and the need for a comprehensive approach to reducing recidivism.
00:00 A Glimpse into the Harsh Realities of Trafficking
00:46 Introduction to the Podcast and Today's Episode
03:23 Interview with Monica Monet: A Victim's Story
03:31 Monica's Early Life and Family Struggles
10:29 The Harsh World of Prostitution and Trafficking
21:06 Estimating Monthly Earnings from Prostitution
21:37 Government Involvement in Trafficking
22:12 The Reality of Trafficking
22:43 Impact on Victims
24:04 Parental Influence and Responsibility
29:25 Social Media's Role in Trafficking
35:41 Current Endeavors and Future Plans
37:42 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
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traffic is, is to a whole different level
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I just seen the woman out there.
She had a baby.
And I simply seen the man.
She was standing on the bridge.
And I simply seen the man.
He sit there and told her.
He said, If you don't come home,them other kids gonna be sold.
So she had to stand out thereselling flowers and whatever else.
And it's hot.
I was out there when it was like102 and the woman was standing out
there with a baby on her, on her.
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So it just, traffic is, isto a whole different level
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Hello, and welcome to a prisoner's partin podcasts with me, your host, me TJ.
Yes today, we have an awesomeepisode because today we're
switching gears a little bit.
I'm a be out in the field.
So please excuse the sound is notas perfect as I would like it to
be, but I will be improving on that.
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Today, we're going to belistening to the victim side.
I know all the time we usually do withpeople on the other side, talking about
if they've been incarcerated themselves.
If they worked as though.
A correctional officer, policeofficer, if they read in books that
help people that spend incarceratedas well as their families.
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I believe victims do have a voice inour prison reform, which we should
be listening to, but I don't reallyhear a lot from, so we're prisoners.
Pardon?
We want to hear from everyone because webelieve everyone has a voice and should.
Actually participate in the process ofjust strategizing ways on how to do prison
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reform, and how to lower recidivism.
Today, I'm going to be interviewing.
Monica Monet.
She has been through a lot in her life.
And has been a victim for most of it.
So she's going to betalking about how she was.
Molested a little bit, nothinggraphics so we can have kids
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in, the room if you like.
So it's nothing going to begraphic, and she's going to talk
about some sex trafficking andjust given us a really good insight
into that world of prostitution.
And how they live there andhow she actually survived.
And how she feels aboutpeople that actually.
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Have done this to her.
So I know a lot of times people don'tlook at people that's in this sort
of rural as victims, but I'm hereto tell you that we should, when you
hear the story, you understand why.
So again, we're going to betalking about a sensitive subject.
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We're going to be talkingabout prostitution.
And the sex trafficking world.
We've been hearing somuch about that lately.
And this has given us thislike a different perspective.
I'm sure you're going toappreciate hearing this.
So thank you again forlistening again, please.
Excuse the audio.
I will be getting better at this.
But thank you for takingthe time to listen.
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Now let's jump into that interview.
Michi J (03:23):
welcome Monica Monet.
Hi, well, um, Let me go back.
Really, I was a victim of traffickingas coming into this world, um, being
born and into this world of trafficking.
Um, passed around.
Um, my mom didn't raise me.
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My mom gave birth when I was born.
I'm the oldest out of seven.
Um, so I was passed around.
Family, family, friend and family.
Um, just growing up in life.
So I really never had a stablehome as far as I can remember.
For My mom was into trafficking.
That's the reason why shedidn't raise, raise me.
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Um, my mom was a prostitute,which is put out there.
Um, And that was her life.
My mom got killed when I was 11 years old.
And, um, I'm, you know, I'mthe oldest out of seven.
Um, I didn't know my mom like that.
I seen my mom like that.
Um, stuff like that.
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That kind of took a toll.
So as we growing up, Like I said,and I've been tared in life as Bo as
told I'm not gonna be nothing amountto nothing, but just like my mom.
So it has stirred in me thatI'm gonna be like my mom,
which is, I felt like nothing.
So when I grew up, you know, um, Ijump off the four J 14 left home.
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Well, while I was saying, and becauseI wasn't being treated right, I was
being um, favorite, I went througha lot of favoritism, um, judgmental.
And when you raise it, and whenyou, I was really, let me say, I was
raised in a house of Pentecostal.
So people that was raisedme was highly at the church.
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There was a pastor and pastor's wife.
So it was like a lot of things,you know, I couldn't do, couldn't
do this, couldn't do that.
And this is what I was taughtthat I couldn't do in life,
you know what I'm saying?
And it was like, for me,judgmental, you know, so that's
all that in life took toll.
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And then I went, I was passed around.
I just didn't want to raise with them.
I was passed around thefamily, family in life.
You know what I'm saying?
Um, living.
So, me getting older, it's like, Ileft home, I started running away,
I started getting what older means.
You know, I didn't, wasn'ttold I was loved, so I thought
that was love, of coming.
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Cause I never got shown love.
I thought that was love.
From mens 'cause I neverknew what love was.
Lemme um, um, interject here.
Mm-Hmm.
. So did you know your father?
No.
Okay.
So you, you dunno your father now?
No, I had a man that, um,
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was, did things for me.
Because he said he was messingwith my mom and she told him she,
he said he knew he wasn't my dad.
You know, um, so that took a lotof me because I never had a father
figure, well I had a father figure,figure somewhat in my life, have
past times, but it wasn't like that.
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So this made me you know, um, so whenit's this man, um, so let me ask you,
so when you were saying You came inwhen you were, you were growing up.
Mm-Hmm.
. You really was like, passed around.
Yeah.
So you almost were saying youwere traffick, like you said.
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Yeah.
From the beginning.
Mm-Hmm.
. And even before you actuallygot physically, um, trafficked.
Well, I could say my ownauntie kind of sold me.
Yeah.
So I ain't trying to be funny.
I, I, my auntie, youknow, I was little girl.
I, I.
So to this day, I gotsomeone on my Facebook.
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My cousin baby daddy sitthere and said, he apologized.
I don't hold grudges.
I don't care if you have any lows.
He still my Facebook friend,you know, I, I iga, but I didn't
forget, you know what I'm saying?
It's still there, you know,'cause it's fair for me to tell
my story, for me to be there to.
To help others.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's like, I, when I, my auntieis, I basically told her I was raped.
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Her friend's father raped me.
She knew about it.
Basically, she's like passedme on and basically was told
that I was lying about stuff.
I got broke up at eight years old bymy cousin, five, I mean, six, eight,
okay.
We got to keep it kind of tame.
You know, cause it'smaking me kids listening.
So that's what you let me finish.
So I'm getting to a point here.
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You, before you was physicallytrapped, you was first.
In the mind, because they werecalling you names and they were
saying you just like my mom.
Okay.
It was just like her.
Don't be like her.
Was it negative?
Negative.
(08:30):
Okay.
And then that led to actuallythe physical being trapped in
self esteem and just going aroundwith different family members.
And then these instances startedhappening in the family where you had
experienced a lot of mental abuse,I would say, and um, emotional.
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Misty kids going to all three.
So I just need to say I'm so sorry.
So and now After leaving home,because of what was going on,
it seemed like you were trapped.
It felt like I didn't have a home.
It felt like I didn't have, Ididn't have a home, I didn't have
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love, I didn't have no family.
Because family, didn't nobody hurt me.
Family showed me dishonor.
No loyalty, no love, before I even got outthere in the streets and to have friends.
So I always had a trust issue.
People hate, you know, um, and trustwithin myself because it took me a minute
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to kind of love myself or I'm pretty.
It took me to be in my thirties to sayin my late thirties that I'm beautiful.
I'm pretty because I wasthat hot down above me.
You ain't nothing.
You're just like your mom.
So I'm like, Was my mom pretty?
Was my mom beautiful?
Because that's what Ihear, you know, basically.
Yeah.
(10:00):
Yeah.
That was not something thatshould happen to anybody.
No kids.
Nobody should be doing that, so if, uh,audience, if you hear anybody saying
things like that to anybody, please,respectfully, stop them in their
tracks and tell them you, you shouldn'tbe talking that way because you can
lead this person down the wrong path.
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It happens all the time.
Monica, so tell us about Youactually getting traffic?
How did you get into that?
What happened that you got?
I started dancing, um, and the money,and most females, y'all can sit there
and say, y'all make doing all that.
(10:42):
You prostitute yourself in the clubs too.
Let's be real.
Starts off in the club sometimes becauseGod's going to give you extra money
to go in the back, do extra things.
You know what I'm saying?
For me, I left, when I don't leavethe club, I started going, started
having to come to my hotel room,or you know, wherever I'm staying
or whatever, or meeting up with me,or I leave it there from the club.
(11:04):
So that's when it started, youknow, then it started with Backpage.
Um, this and this and this, I startedwith that, doing that, you know.
Back pages?
Back pages, online, where you're getting,you're, tricks, you know what I'm saying?
Men's, you know.
It's an app or something?
Yeah, it's an app.
Where, you know, you should go online onthe website, put your, put your little
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pictures, and um, post up little ads,and you know, like, post little ads
like, you know, your prize or whatever.
It's legal?
Stuff like that.
That's why they shut down Craigslist.
But they was doing it up on there too.
There's a lot of apps outhere that people don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
As far as the trafficking, you know.
Trafficking apps?
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Trafficking been going on for years.
Trafficking apps?
No, you say prostitution apps.
Okay.
But they like back page apps.
Okay.
Where they set up these different apps.
Different apps that they set up,you know what I'm saying, for
like friend This is one of them.
A lot of people, they had the person andthen you go up on there and then you say
you wanna, you know, I'ma touch the stuff.
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Yeah, because a lot of femalesget killed up off there, remember?
Oh, yeah, that's right.
That's it.
And um, so it's like me, it's I've beentold I was gonna be it, you know, so I was
introduced to sex at a young age So I waslike, okay, whatever, you know, I didn't
love myself You I didn't know my worth.
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I had like the money.
I didn't have much of anything.
Me growing up, I didn't have nothing.
So I sent the money.
The men sent me the money.
They said they loved me.
So that was basicallywhere my mind was at.
You know what I'm saying?
Cause I didn't get it back in the days.
I didn't have anything.
You know, so I just basically,so I started from dancing to the
strip club to going out there inthe streets, prostituting myself.
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Having all, from, from casinos, bars.
I have been on, on, on, on, um, corners,whatever, you know, um, to get my money.
I have been, even though I didn'twork in a strip club, I would go to
strip clubs and get some men's upout of there, you know, or sit in
the parking lot and get some men's.
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Um, casinos, like I said,whatever, that, you know, I know
I can get some money to get.
Um.
So I'm going to interrupt you right quick.
So just in case anybody inthe audience is going to be
saying, um, she's not a victim.
You know, she's doing this on her own.
But, you have to look at the big picture.
It started young, whereshe was victimized.
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Then, And so shecontinued this victimhood.
So whether she was actually participating,yeah, you can look at it like that.
But you got to look at the big picture.
Because this started young, and wemust take responsibility for that.
So again, if you're thinking that she'snot a victim, I do not agree with you.
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She isn't.
Okay, so, continue.
Well, um, Basically, I just lookedat it like I'm getting money.
I'm getting something.
I'm having things that I didn't havewhen I was growing up, um, in life.
Um, I'm getting show love in life and itwasn't love because I didn't have that
motherly love or that fatherly love.
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I got it from out therefrom other people or means.
So when I started having kids,that's what taught me love.
You know what I'm saying?
Four A's.
My keys.
Um, so I had an incident here.
What made me stop what I'm doing asfar as what I was doing in my life.
I had an incident, um, the way I was outthere and, um, I didn't pray that day.
(14:45):
I normally pray, you know, as Godwould cover me while I'm out there.
You know what I was doing.
You know I was going to do it anyway.
So you knew that.
You know, I've been going down.
You were stopping.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, So I'm sitting there, you know,I'm out there and, um, half his
men picked me up, you know what I'msaying, and got in a car with him.
Um, some told me not to.
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Men took me.
Um, basically he had mefor a couple of hours.
Raped me, beat me.
First he asked me, um,
you know what I'm saying?
Um, basically, why I'm doing this?
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What's my purpose?
And all I could see was my mom.
All I could see was my mom,my grandkids, and my kids.
So I asked them, I said,I'm doing this on my own.
It's all I know.
I've had jobs, I done had good jobs.
(15:51):
Got an apprenticeship before.
Been to college, got a PhD degree.
But when your mind don't knowright, it ain't gonna do right.
You ain't got nobody leading you right,or showing you, showing you the way.
It ain't gonna be right.
I had negatives in my life.
You wanted to be loved.
You wanted to be loved, soI went out there for love.
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They wasn't loving me.
They wasn't gonna be using mejust to say anybody like that.
My, my, I thought, And they was,you know, so basically the man
had me for a couple of hours.
He was telling me something wrongwith the man, cause he was like,
um, Can I be your, be your man?
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I'll get you a job, youknow, and everything.
I done had stuff like thatdone to me, but not like that.
Not like that.
All through my head, all I could saywas, Jesus help me, Lord help me.
Help me Lord, help me.
That's all I did was pray.
I cried out for hours and hours as he'sbeating me, raping me over and over again.
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Dear Lord.
That man dropped me off.
All I can do is say thank you, Jesus.
I went to the hospital.
They gave me all type of pills.
I had tetanus on that.
So I wouldn't have nothing.
I had a rape kid done and everything.
By the grace of God, they called him.
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Cause they found hisbody fluid hits up on me.
I don't know if he's still injail cause I couldn't go to court.
It was, we had to go on, I had to goon the phones, like now it still hurts.
So it was kind of, um,Oh, it was kind of fresh.
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When they had me going through court,I wasn't able to do it, you know.
So he was, who was this guy?
I didn't know him.
I'm a prostitute.
I didn't know him, but he didn't know me.
So he was indeed someonethat they were looking for?
He killed four females.
When I found out who he was, and whenthe people from the place came and told
me to identify him, we were lined up.
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It was told, I'm not the only one.
I'm not the only victim.
By the grace of God,he killed four of them.
Yes, that's the grace of God.
So God got arrested for a reason.
Yes.
I've been asking whatis my purpose with God?
I know a lot of guys, but Igave up on God a long time ago.
I really did.
I really did, because I had toask Him so many times, Why do you
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keep letting me go through this?
Can't leave this world messed up.
Going up messed up.
He put me through a test,you know what I'm saying?
But I know He put me here.
So I can have a testimonybecause I'm not the only one.
I can save lives.
Tell us about some of the women youwere with and I know you explained
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something that they were like familyand tried to make a, you know, I had,
I, I had more females being my familymore than my own family was to me.
But not for me.
I lived with different, multiple,different races of females,
different cultures, you know.
I think you told me something, um, youwould get together and you all would,
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like, have No, this, this wasn't this.
That's, you call them wife in laws.
What?
We call them wife in laws.
I have plenty of wife in laws.
Wife a longs?
Wife in laws.
Wife in laws?
Yeah.
Oh, what's that?
Wife in long?
Yeah, what is that?
That's just like, the E, hermits.
What is that?
That's just like, the E, hermits.
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You in a relationship with this man,she in a relationship with this man.
These people are all young.
You married to him, she married to him.
That's the minimum.
In this country?
Yeah, you got, you cannotsay something social wise.
Remember that?
Just like pimpin and whorin Yeah.
Pimpin and prostitution.
(19:53):
Tell you that.
Some females, can I say this,some females, PIMS got females
that work the job, good job.
Really?
And, and they taking money from them.
And the women going?
You got some married, yeah.
You got some married, you gotsome PIMS married, and they
got females that's out there.
So when, so they're basicallySome females don't care.
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They looking at it likethey getting their money.
You gotta look at it.
Some females looking likeI'm getting my money.
I don't care if I'm gonna get my money.
I got a house.
I got a car.
Some females in headache.
I know some females that used to I knowsome females that used to work in a bank.
Lawyers.
Doctors.
CNAs.
And not get prostituted, okay?
Ain't nothing effective on prostitutes.
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Just being real.
Yes, ma'am.
Yes, ma'am.
My money.
You, the money that they give everytwo weeks, you get one day or more.
I was getting like that.
I'm getting a couple stacks ofbetter dancing off the pole.
Depends on where you go.
If you out there, you take thisand you go to Vegas or anything.
(20:57):
You, you know, you finna comeup with 20, 000 or better.
Something for owning a home or whatever.
Cause they coming, they getting it.
So how much money?
They got their money.
How much money have you, youknow, just estimate how much
money you made in a month.
Just some small.
If 000 a day or better.
I have seen 20, 000 in myhand coming from one man.
(21:20):
I have took road taxes from men.
I have took foreign moniesfrom them and didn't know it.
And you take it to, uh, a placeand they'll give you more for
that, the more it said on that,the currency of the money.
You know, um, This isa big enterprise thing.
Yeah.
Okay.
But this been going on for a while, whydo you think they can't shut it down?
(21:41):
The government is in that.
All of them is in there.
All of them is up in there.
You know, I'm, I'm gonnatell you like this.
I done dated some celebrities.
I done dated some, some,some in the office.
A lot of them know that.
Come on.
Same as you see.
You know, what, what's the name of that?
The Oprah, not the Oprah, but um,
(22:02):
President might be seeing somebody too.
Y'all forgot, uh, what's her name?
Melody Monroe had keys to the White House.
Come on now.
Should've told y'all something about that.
Okay.
Alright.
You know, I mean, it'sbeen going on for years.
Yeah.
Can't stop that.
It's been going on since the 70s, the 60s.
Okay, back in B.
C., Jesus time.
Yeah.
(22:22):
You know, so it's been out there.
Okay.
You know, um, You And, somefemales, y'all gotta understand,
Some females, they just, they doesit because they never had a life.
Some females see that money, theylike, Man, I want that money.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not the life.
It's not the life.
It's not the life.
(22:43):
About trafficking too though,do, is it, I don't know, I should
have looked this up, and I canlook it up later about the stats.
Um, of course being trafficking, is it alot of prostitutes being done that way?
Just more of them, because I know theytake, Kids off the street and go do this.
Some kids don't be tucking alot of these little girls hot.
(23:06):
They just go out there, they seea man and they and, and, and, and,
and they ain't got no male figure.
So they look like this is a male figure.
This male same I just said.
So they look like this is love.
They look like it's a father figure.
This man show me some attentionand, you know, Yeah, he, he, he
supposed to be finessing your mind.
I tell you what you gonna get, hegonna buy you the finest things.
(23:27):
Cause you getting the finest,you getting the finest money too.
You buying the finest things.
So yes, he gonna dress you to impress.
To go out there and get that money.
And that club go outthere in them streets.
But you got some that had agood home, mom and father.
That's just the life they wanted to live.
Cause I done seen somethat had a good life.
(23:48):
They didn't want fornothing, but they out there.
I don't, you know what?
That's, you're absolutely right.
I was not thinking about, I was at firstthinking like they were just snatched
and then it was against their will.
You got something, don't get it twisted.
You got something that does.
You got parents that sell their kids.
Same way, like I feel as though our kids,them mommas should be locked up too.
(24:09):
You know, just be real.
Yeah, I feel like y'all pushed them kids.
Y'all knew this man, y'all knewthis man sat here and there,
that good young girl, Aaliyah.
I love y'all.
So come on, y'all should've knewnot to sit there and introduce
y'all daughter to this man.
Same way, you know, like, come on.
Y'all, y'all, y'all know it's outhere so why push your daughters?
(24:31):
Why have your daughtersaround these grown leads?
Some of these men profit and deal withthese women just to get what they want.
Facts.
Those are facts.
When they say, oh, this is, this is mymale friend, or they, you know, They
uncles, and it ain't they uncles, you knowwhat I'm saying, and they do it for them.
I done seen that so many,so, so, so many times.
(24:52):
A female growing up, andthis man, I seen her grew up.
So you're saying that we are overlookingParents that are trying to do kids.
You got parents, you got some parentsthat push their kids to do it.
You got, um, kids thatjust do, do, do, do, do.
(25:12):
You got some that just say they wantto do it they self, they see the money.
Got some, I'ma put it like this,when you don't love yourself,
you don't have self love.
When the devil break your mindand you let him rape it, you'll
be out there in the streets.
Either mentally messed up or messed upout there on the streets really messed up.
Cause I done seen prostitutes outthere really messed up on drugs.
(25:35):
Some of them dope dating justto get a little hit every now
and then and, and whatever.
And some of them getting their money.
So we got all type of women.
Would you think, this is a questionfor you, if young people, young kids
especially, are looking at, um, some stuffthey shouldn't be watching, you know,
(25:58):
like pornography and things like that,it can lead to trafficking, do you think?
No.
No?
Okay, why not?
It's out here.
How can you hide things from them?
I'm not saying they're hiding them.
I said that they could lead to that.
So it's them seeing No.
You don't think so?
No.
Okay.
(26:19):
Either way, it's there's something intheir mind, or they just crunk to it.
But, yeah, it's something in their minds,so I mean, they had to see it first.
They didn't get to see it in their mind.
And now, they're sexualized.
Yeah.
It depends on, I'm gonna say it like this.
I talk to a lot of females as faras when their situation will matter.
(26:40):
And my female said, why would I sithere and stay in the house with my
mama when my uncle sleeping with me?
So I come out here and get some money.
I'm not getting no money from him.
You don't know what went on in that home.
See, back in the days, and it'sstill going on, um, what goes on
in my house stays in my house.
So a lot of kids couldn't say, oh,I'm being touched by such and such.
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Oh, you're not.
So you had a lot of kids that was breakand molested so they feel as though why
should I I'm gonna get money I'm alreadylike this, but that's no self esteem
That's the devil working in your mindand say going out there whatever whatever
instead of saying well get you some helpmentally let go of that God if you deal
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with you got their religion and take yourmeds cuz God said don't be a student you
need to take your meds cuz you don't needthem and and and and work with yourself
get some help some counseling Like Idid, I have a psychiatrist, I have a
counselor, I have medicine that I take.
I know how to take it, becauseI know that's what's going to
make me grow up, you know whatI'm saying, a little more better.
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I used to say, oh, I don't, Iused to judge myself and say,
I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm not human.
Because I had to take medsbecause I had a problem.
I was bringing this up because I'vetalked to a lot of people and I've seen
it where, and I can, I honestly, I cansee the connection, because if a person's
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too young to be watching something andthey start being sexualized, and they're
thinking that it's okay, and then ifit's, They're being rewarded for it and
then they're, it gets twisted and then inthat case, they can easily be trafficked.
But I keep agreeing with you,so this is where I'm getting at.
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So, um, just be very careful aboutwhat your kids are looking at.
Um, especially, I won't even gothere, about some of these, I
would say parades that we seethese kids at, shouldn't be there.
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I know youain't finna just put it out there.
Y'all got these kids confused.
(28:47):
You know what I'm saying?
You get confused, whatever.
I understand, cause when they hadthat hair, it kind of bothered me when
I seen y'all having kids out there.
And people, two bad kids and two women.
I ain't trying to be funny.
That should be in y'allhouse for childhood.
Your kids shouldn't be seeingother people doing that.
End of the day.
Yes.
Oh, there's, um.
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That, the odds of him beingtrafficked is higher now.
So, um, anyway.
Oh, it's, it's, it wasn'thigh, it's been high.
The trafficking level's been high.
It's been high, I'm just saying.
The only thing that's reallyput it out was social media.
Right.
Social media really put a lot of, socialmedia really put a lot of things out.
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When Facebook came out and this mediathing, it really put a lot of things out,
opened up a lot of eyes that a lot ofpeople did not know was really going on.
Right.
Because a lot of people get to telltheir story, like I'm sitting here.
No, right, but also you're right.
But I'm saying from the point of viewthat now the individual person is more
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at higher risk to be able to be trapped.
Yeah, because they've been exposed.
Yeah, but you're right.
Two, we're seeing more of itbecause the social media, it was
hidden, now it's being exposed.
And it's being, not just exposed,it's being multiplied, because now
they can get to it, whereas before,it was harder to get to, but now
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it's making it even more prevalent.
My friend called me a couplemonths ago and said her niece, the
police, came to her momma house.
It said that her 13 year old niecewas online with a pregnant woman.
Half these kids shouldn't have phones.
Y'all paying for iPhones for what?
For your child to be sitting up there withJohn, Big Boop, and whatever it don't go.
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Who they, who on the other end of it?
You shouldn't have certain printableitems of your kids, what they not
supposed to do and what they, what, what.
Social media more know abouty'all kids than y'all do.
Put it like that.
Well, you're right about that.
Other people know about y'all kids aswatching y'all kids more than y'all do.
These kids, they activate theirpages, cause I had one at the time.
My kids are grown.
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At the time, I went through that.
I went through something like that.
If my grown, my friend and I callme and say, your daughter's never
sitting up there on Facebook.
Lil daughter, not . They up therewith the little hair brown, with the
little booty shorts on sitting there.
If you wouldn't have call me andtold me your daughter's never on
Facebook, I wouldn't even knowthat they had a Facebook page.
My daughter's 14 years old thetime my dad sent to her phone
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and I, I want her to have now.
And that's how I found out.
My daughter's on Facebook halfnaked and all the people that
was her friends was grown men.
It's a way you can monitor.
It's something you can put on thephone where parents can monitor it.
And they should be monitoring their kids.
At a certain age, I wouldn't let acertain kid have a certain phone.
(31:33):
There's phones out here whereyou can dial certain numbers.
, There's phones out here where you can putcertain numbers up on there, a certain
phone that you call for emergency, ifyou want to try that phone, you know,
but Other than that, poor ass, these kidsshouldn't be walking around with no phone.
Half of them can't read a spell.
There's too much pedophiles out here.
You bad enough you can walk outhere and might get picked up.
(31:55):
They picking you up out here onthe streets, that's for real.
Um, so, you know, just watch your kids.
Um, watch you around your kids.
Sometimes the family, family, why someof these family members, you don't
even know where your family is, whenyou find plenty of stuff in your kids
head and touching them, relaxing them.
Some of these kids ain'tgoing to say nothing.
They not.
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They not.
Why?
I done seen kids like that,ain't going to say nothing.
Because the simple fact, they feel asthough, I had a child that told me, said,
I didn't want to say nothing because thatperson said it's going to kill my family.
It's because my mom anddad, it's the same thing.
You don't know what's in that kid'smind when that man tellin them that.
(32:37):
We got some armedshootings around here too.
We got women's days around heremolesting girls, I mean boys too.
So it's vice versa.
Yeah.
In all fairness, yeah.
Vice versa.
So we just can't say Cause Idone seen trainees out here.
I done seen men out hereprostituting themselves too as well.
And they ain't evengot dressed like a man.
They pronounce themselves as a man.
(32:59):
So you got some prostitutingmales out here too as well.
You know what?
It's interesting because we have laws.
If you saw a couple episodes away, I hadinterviewed Mitch Topeka, and he has a
sex case, uh, where he, he was, uh, 1815, and he's on, um, the registry now.
(33:24):
But, Don't you think being trafficked, atrafficker should have something similar?
I mean, this is aquestion for the audience.
We'll get back to that later,but it's making me think.
You know, it's a sex case,so why are they registered?
I hope we need to look at thatand maybe look at some laws maybe.
(33:48):
To probably have that on the books becausethis is so prevalent, but I don't know.
Trafficking is on me.
My trafficking is, when yougot to a certain age and you
grown, you did that on your own.
Now, my thing is, when you achild and you a minor, now that's
too, that's way too prominent.
That's trafficking.
When you at a certainage, you're not grown.
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That ain't grown for me.
Put herself out there.
She knew what was finna go.
I'm just going to be real with you.
And grandma put herself out therelike I did when I got grown.
Now, but what happened to me as akid, that's what was on them adults.
When you get a certain age and you becomea grown woman or a grown man, that's when
you take accountability of your life.
You know that ain't right, butyou still go out there and do it.
(34:30):
So, when I got a certain age,yeah, I did it on my own.
And a lot of people, they sitthere and say, oh, she, you know,
well, he trafficked me, baby.
He didn't traffic youif you're a grown adult.
Now, these kids, they cannot sithere and say, I'm trafficking
not just only in prostitution.
It's trafficking as far as thepeople, trafficking people, period.
Right.
They, they, they selling kids andthey selling adults around here.
That's interesting.
(34:52):
You know what I'm saying?
When I was in Houston,I seen Theta Houston.
It's a lot of that going on.
For real.
With families,
I just seen the woman out there.
She had a baby.
And I simply seen the man.
She was standing on the bridge.
And I simply seen the man.
He sit there and told her.
He said, If you don't come home,them other kids gonna be sold.
So she had to stand out thereselling flowers and whatever else.
(35:13):
And it's hot.
I was out there when it was like102 and the woman was standing out
there with a baby on her, on her.
So it just, traffic is, isto a whole different level.
When people said traffic.
Cause people traffic withkids, adults, all of that.
You know what I'm saying?
From across the border and everything.
You feel where I'm coming from?
So, it's just more than that.
(35:33):
Right.
So, that's why you see alot of movies out here.
There's traffic and in certainplaces, countries, it's illegal.
Yeah.
So what, um, so what are you doing now?
What I'm doing now?
Tell us about Monica, Monet.
What is Monica Monet doing now?
Monet was, used to be my stripper name.
Let's just break that down.
(35:54):
Monet was my stripper name.
So are you still stripping?
No.
Okay.
I'm not doing anything at all.
I'm working on myself.
Finna start writing mybook, working on my book.
Um, Telling that story.
Basically, telling my life story.
My brother passed back here on ChristmasEve, and he said, so it's before
he passed, you know, tell my story.
(36:17):
So, it's, my story basically, it startsoff with my mom, um, and her, her, what
her life was for six, it's not going tobe so much of her, but it's breaking it
down to for people to understand how Igot into their life and their feelings.
And how my life, You know, fromthen on, it's coming to this earth
as far as losing her and thenme looking at life with respect.
(36:38):
I don't, life and how liferespect, it took me into how it
respected me and how it done me.
And as far as growing up.
So, I'm not doing things, wellI am as far as writing my book.
Um, soon be trying topromote myself in my book.
Um, basically getting Get Monicatogether, get myself together.
(37:00):
I've been through a lot.
Self love.
Um, doing me for as not.
Controlling me, because I had somuch anger I didn't know I had.
I had, I didn't love myself.
So I couldn't love no one else.
I have mental issuesthat I'm working with.
So I have to work with myself before Ican go out and work with other people.
(37:20):
I'm glad to hear that you aregoing to be doing the book.
And I can't wait for it to come out.
I'm pretty sure a lot of peoplewill be interested in it.
So I think we'll see.
You know, what to look for, whatyou, seeing it through your eyes.
So now, their, your eyes also becometheir eyes, so they know what to do.
(37:42):
So, again, This is aChristmas card podcast.
, we have never actually, , intervieweda victim before like this.
Everybody's a victim insome way, somehow, okay?
Because victims make victims.
Hurt people hurt people.
We want to love everybody,but we want to be informed so
(38:02):
that we can make a difference.
Stop this.
, you have a peacefulexistence as much as you can.
So I brought up whether the legalsystem should look at traffickers the
same way they look at a pedophiles.
Make some stronger laws.
And first Make it known, be clearwhat it is before we start, I
(38:23):
would say start penalizing people.
I'm a big fan of communicationso that they do not, people
are aware of these laws.
You have it broadcasted all overschools, everywhere, if you get caught.
caught trafficking young people becausethey cannot give consent at a certain age.
But you're right.
(38:44):
They can, even though their mind isn'tup to part, they're still adults.
So we can't just charge it that way,the way we can do with Children.
please, think about this.
We're going to have some sessionslater where I can have a time when
we can actually question Miss Monet,um, to get some insight and see if
(39:04):
your kid's doing certain things.
I'm sure she'll be able to answer like,Hey, this is, I've seen this before.
Maybe you should look at this or that.
So I'll let you know when that session is.
That's going to be a live session.
, I will put an announcement out aboutthat later, but, um, I just want to say,
you know, we hear this all the time.
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You can't.
You can't change, you can't make a,what, they say a hoe into a housewife.
You know, you can'tchange a person's stripes.
But I'm here to tell you JesusChrist can because guess what?
Jesus mother, grandmother I should say,was a prostitute and she was changed.
(39:47):
So, Miss Romaine, you arechanged and you can be changed.
Don't let nobody ever put labelson you because God has broken all
those chains and He died for you.
He died for you just like He died forme, just like He died for all of you.
So, I just want to say thatso you can stay encouraged
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because this isn't the end.
You got a lot of work to dobecause God saved you by grace.
For some reason, because like shesaid, four other women are dead.
And you're sitting here by thegrace of God, you're saying, yes,
it is something for me to do.
And we look forward to you doing it.
(40:31):
So we're wrapping up now.
But um, is there anythingelse just quickly that you
want to say to the audience?
Um, about Monica, and rightnow we're in awe of you.
We really thank you for being sotransparent and having the courage
to come up here and just speak abouttrafficking and being a victim and what's
(40:56):
really going on is going on all over.
And that means we are gonna havesome big people go down for that.
And they should.
And they should.
I'm going to say this because I'm gladthat you said Mayfair because I was
going to say something about that.
But thank you for coming to me andto let me speak on my behalf of this.
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I appreciate that.
You got a lot of these.
Top people, like I saidearlier, best into the traffic.
Um, police officer, that's why so manyfemales don't even want to go to them.
Because I done had some, I had faith.
You got some that'll sit thereand say, I won't take you to jail
if you, if you do these things.
(41:39):
For me or whatever.
It got to stop.
It got to stop.
But that's the reason why it'snot going to stop because we got
so many of them that's in it.
You feel where I'm coming from?
And it's coming fromthe top, the head top.
That is, we know what I said earlier,it's been going on for years.
And like any place, when wewant to get something done, we
do have to start at the top.
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And not the little people, wehave to get the big people.
So we're praying.
Um, that guy does do that and ship thingsup because, and you can be a part of it.
Um, if you haven't already,please join my subscriber list.
Um, so you're aware of whendifferent events are happening.
Yeah.
That's all.
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Um, it's not about that.
This is about what you have to say.
Not how you look.
So, again, thank you all for being onthe show, coming in and watching us.
Um, sense of love, sense of encouragement.
It's not easy, you know, trying to be outhere, trying to do the work of the Lord
but, our Lord, His grace is sufficient,. , thank you for listening, and may you
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have a week filled with blessings.
traffic is, is to a whole different level
(00:02):
I just seen the woman out there.
She had a baby.
And I simply seen the man.
She was standing on the bridge.
And I simply seen the man.
He sit there and told her.
He said, If you don't come home,them other kids gonna be sold.
So she had to stand out thereselling flowers and whatever else.
And it's hot.
I was out there when it was like102 and the woman was standing out
there with a baby on her, on her.
(00:24):
So it just, traffic is, isto a whole different level
(00:46):
Hello, and welcome to a prisoner's partin podcasts with me, your host, me TJ.
Yes today, we have an awesomeepisode because today we're
switching gears a little bit.
I'm a be out in the field.
So please excuse the sound is notas perfect as I would like it to
be, but I will be improving on that.
(01:07):
Today, we're going to belistening to the victim side.
I know all the time we usually do withpeople on the other side, talking about
if they've been incarcerated themselves.
If they worked as though.
A correctional officer, policeofficer, if they read in books that
help people that spend incarceratedas well as their families.
(01:30):
I believe victims do have a voice inour prison reform, which we should
be listening to, but I don't reallyhear a lot from, so we're prisoners.
Pardon?
We want to hear from everyone because webelieve everyone has a voice and should.
Actually participate in the process ofjust strategizing ways on how to do prison
(01:54):
reform, and how to lower recidivism.
Today, I'm going to be interviewing.
Monica Monet.
She has been through a lot in her life.
And has been a victim for most of it.
So she's going to betalking about how she was.
Molested a little bit, nothinggraphics so we can have kids
(02:17):
in, the room if you like.
So it's nothing going to begraphic, and she's going to talk
about some sex trafficking andjust given us a really good insight
into that world of prostitution.
And how they live there andhow she actually survived.
And how she feels aboutpeople that actually.
(02:40):
Have done this to her.
So I know a lot of times people don'tlook at people that's in this sort
of rural as victims, but I'm hereto tell you that we should, when you
hear the story, you understand why.
So again, we're going to betalking about a sensitive subject.
(03:00):
We're going to be talkingabout prostitution.
And the sex trafficking world.
We've been hearing somuch about that lately.
And this has given us thislike a different perspective.
I'm sure you're going toappreciate hearing this.
So thank you again forlistening again, please.
Excuse the audio.
I will be getting better at this.
But thank you for takingthe time to listen.
(03:21):
Now let's jump into that interview.
Michi J (03:23):
welcome Monica Monet.
Hi, well, um, Let me go back.
Really, I was a victim of traffickingas coming into this world, um, being
born and into this world of trafficking.
Um, passed around.
Um, my mom didn't raise me.
(03:44):
My mom gave birth when I was born.
I'm the oldest out of seven.
Um, so I was passed around.
Family, family, friend and family.
Um, just growing up in life.
So I really never had a stablehome as far as I can remember.
For My mom was into trafficking.
That's the reason why shedidn't raise, raise me.
(04:06):
Um, my mom was a prostitute,which is put out there.
Um, And that was her life.
My mom got killed when I was 11 years old.
And, um, I'm, you know, I'mthe oldest out of seven.
Um, I didn't know my mom like that.
I seen my mom like that.
Um, stuff like that.
(04:28):
That kind of took a toll.
So as we growing up, Like I said,and I've been tared in life as Bo as
told I'm not gonna be nothing amountto nothing, but just like my mom.
So it has stirred in me thatI'm gonna be like my mom,
which is, I felt like nothing.
So when I grew up, you know, um, Ijump off the four J 14 left home.
(04:55):
Well, while I was saying, and becauseI wasn't being treated right, I was
being um, favorite, I went througha lot of favoritism, um, judgmental.
And when you raise it, and whenyou, I was really, let me say, I was
raised in a house of Pentecostal.
So people that was raisedme was highly at the church.
(05:17):
There was a pastor and pastor's wife.
So it was like a lot of things,you know, I couldn't do, couldn't
do this, couldn't do that.
And this is what I was taughtthat I couldn't do in life,
you know what I'm saying?
And it was like, for me,judgmental, you know, so that's
all that in life took toll.
(05:38):
And then I went, I was passed around.
I just didn't want to raise with them.
I was passed around thefamily, family in life.
You know what I'm saying?
Um, living.
So, me getting older, it's like, Ileft home, I started running away,
I started getting what older means.
You know, I didn't, wasn'ttold I was loved, so I thought
that was love, of coming.
(06:00):
Cause I never got shown love.
I thought that was love.
From mens 'cause I neverknew what love was.
Lemme um, um, interject here.
Mm-Hmm.
. So did you know your father?
No.
Okay.
So you, you dunno your father now?
No, I had a man that, um,
(06:20):
was, did things for me.
Because he said he was messingwith my mom and she told him she,
he said he knew he wasn't my dad.
You know, um, so that took a lotof me because I never had a father
figure, well I had a father figure,figure somewhat in my life, have
past times, but it wasn't like that.
(06:41):
So this made me you know, um, so whenit's this man, um, so let me ask you,
so when you were saying You came inwhen you were, you were growing up.
Mm-Hmm.
. You really was like, passed around.
Yeah.
So you almost were saying youwere traffick, like you said.
(07:02):
Yeah.
From the beginning.
Mm-Hmm.
. And even before you actuallygot physically, um, trafficked.
Well, I could say my ownauntie kind of sold me.
Yeah.
So I ain't trying to be funny.
I, I, my auntie, youknow, I was little girl.
I, I.
So to this day, I gotsomeone on my Facebook.
(07:22):
My cousin baby daddy sitthere and said, he apologized.
I don't hold grudges.
I don't care if you have any lows.
He still my Facebook friend,you know, I, I iga, but I didn't
forget, you know what I'm saying?
It's still there, you know,'cause it's fair for me to tell
my story, for me to be there to.
To help others.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's like, I, when I, my auntieis, I basically told her I was raped.
(07:47):
Her friend's father raped me.
She knew about it.
Basically, she's like passedme on and basically was told
that I was lying about stuff.
I got broke up at eight years old bymy cousin, five, I mean, six, eight,
okay.
We got to keep it kind of tame.
You know, cause it'smaking me kids listening.
So that's what you let me finish.
So I'm getting to a point here.
(08:09):
You, before you was physicallytrapped, you was first.
In the mind, because they werecalling you names and they were
saying you just like my mom.
Okay.
It was just like her.
Don't be like her.
Was it negative?
Negative.
(08:30):
Okay.
And then that led to actuallythe physical being trapped in
self esteem and just going aroundwith different family members.
And then these instances startedhappening in the family where you had
experienced a lot of mental abuse,I would say, and um, emotional.
(08:51):
Misty kids going to all three.
So I just need to say I'm so sorry.
So and now After leaving home,because of what was going on,
it seemed like you were trapped.
It felt like I didn't have a home.
It felt like I didn't have, Ididn't have a home, I didn't have
(09:14):
love, I didn't have no family.
Because family, didn't nobody hurt me.
Family showed me dishonor.
No loyalty, no love, before I even got outthere in the streets and to have friends.
So I always had a trust issue.
People hate, you know, um, and trustwithin myself because it took me a minute
(09:39):
to kind of love myself or I'm pretty.
It took me to be in my thirties to sayin my late thirties that I'm beautiful.
I'm pretty because I wasthat hot down above me.
You ain't nothing.
You're just like your mom.
So I'm like, Was my mom pretty?
Was my mom beautiful?
Because that's what Ihear, you know, basically.
Yeah.
(10:00):
Yeah.
That was not something thatshould happen to anybody.
No kids.
Nobody should be doing that, so if, uh,audience, if you hear anybody saying
things like that to anybody, please,respectfully, stop them in their
tracks and tell them you, you shouldn'tbe talking that way because you can
lead this person down the wrong path.
(10:21):
It happens all the time.
Monica, so tell us about Youactually getting traffic?
How did you get into that?
What happened that you got?
I started dancing, um, and the money,and most females, y'all can sit there
and say, y'all make doing all that.
(10:42):
You prostitute yourself in the clubs too.
Let's be real.
Starts off in the club sometimes becauseGod's going to give you extra money
to go in the back, do extra things.
You know what I'm saying?
For me, I left, when I don't leavethe club, I started going, started
having to come to my hotel room,or you know, wherever I'm staying
or whatever, or meeting up with me,or I leave it there from the club.
(11:04):
So that's when it started, youknow, then it started with Backpage.
Um, this and this and this, I startedwith that, doing that, you know.
Back pages?
Back pages, online, where you're getting,you're, tricks, you know what I'm saying?
Men's, you know.
It's an app or something?
Yeah, it's an app.
Where, you know, you should go online onthe website, put your, put your little
(11:25):
pictures, and um, post up little ads,and you know, like, post little ads
like, you know, your prize or whatever.
It's legal?
Stuff like that.
That's why they shut down Craigslist.
But they was doing it up on there too.
There's a lot of apps outhere that people don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
As far as the trafficking, you know.
Trafficking apps?
(11:46):
Trafficking been going on for years.
Trafficking apps?
No, you say prostitution apps.
Okay.
But they like back page apps.
Okay.
Where they set up these different apps.
Different apps that they set up,you know what I'm saying, for
like friend This is one of them.
A lot of people, they had the person andthen you go up on there and then you say
you wanna, you know, I'ma touch the stuff.
(12:07):
Yeah, because a lot of femalesget killed up off there, remember?
Oh, yeah, that's right.
That's it.
And um, so it's like me, it's I've beentold I was gonna be it, you know, so I was
introduced to sex at a young age So I waslike, okay, whatever, you know, I didn't
love myself You I didn't know my worth.
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I had like the money.
I didn't have much of anything.
Me growing up, I didn't have nothing.
So I sent the money.
The men sent me the money.
They said they loved me.
So that was basicallywhere my mind was at.
You know what I'm saying?
Cause I didn't get it back in the days.
I didn't have anything.
You know, so I just basically,so I started from dancing to the
strip club to going out there inthe streets, prostituting myself.
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Having all, from, from casinos, bars.
I have been on, on, on, on, um, corners,whatever, you know, um, to get my money.
I have been, even though I didn'twork in a strip club, I would go to
strip clubs and get some men's upout of there, you know, or sit in
the parking lot and get some men's.
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Um, casinos, like I said,whatever, that, you know, I know
I can get some money to get.
Um.
So I'm going to interrupt you right quick.
So just in case anybody inthe audience is going to be
saying, um, she's not a victim.
You know, she's doing this on her own.
But, you have to look at the big picture.
It started young, whereshe was victimized.
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Then, And so shecontinued this victimhood.
So whether she was actually participating,yeah, you can look at it like that.
But you got to look at the big picture.
Because this started young, and wemust take responsibility for that.
So again, if you're thinking that she'snot a victim, I do not agree with you.
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She isn't.
Okay, so, continue.
Well, um, Basically, I just lookedat it like I'm getting money.
I'm getting something.
I'm having things that I didn't havewhen I was growing up, um, in life.
Um, I'm getting show love in life and itwasn't love because I didn't have that
motherly love or that fatherly love.
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I got it from out therefrom other people or means.
So when I started having kids,that's what taught me love.
You know what I'm saying?
Four A's.
My keys.
Um, so I had an incident here.
What made me stop what I'm doing asfar as what I was doing in my life.
I had an incident, um, the way I was outthere and, um, I didn't pray that day.
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I normally pray, you know, as Godwould cover me while I'm out there.
You know what I was doing.
You know I was going to do it anyway.
So you knew that.
You know, I've been going down.
You were stopping.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, So I'm sitting there, you know,I'm out there and, um, half his
men picked me up, you know what I'msaying, and got in a car with him.
Um, some told me not to.
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Men took me.
Um, basically he had mefor a couple of hours.
Raped me, beat me.
First he asked me, um,
you know what I'm saying?
Um, basically, why I'm doing this?
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What's my purpose?
And all I could see was my mom.
All I could see was my mom,my grandkids, and my kids.
So I asked them, I said,I'm doing this on my own.
It's all I know.
I've had jobs, I done had good jobs.
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Got an apprenticeship before.
Been to college, got a PhD degree.
But when your mind don't knowright, it ain't gonna do right.
You ain't got nobody leading you right,or showing you, showing you the way.
It ain't gonna be right.
I had negatives in my life.
You wanted to be loved.
You wanted to be loved, soI went out there for love.
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They wasn't loving me.
They wasn't gonna be using mejust to say anybody like that.
My, my, I thought, And they was,you know, so basically the man
had me for a couple of hours.
He was telling me something wrongwith the man, cause he was like,
um, Can I be your, be your man?
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I'll get you a job, youknow, and everything.
I done had stuff like thatdone to me, but not like that.
Not like that.
All through my head, all I could saywas, Jesus help me, Lord help me.
Help me Lord, help me.
That's all I did was pray.
I cried out for hours and hours as he'sbeating me, raping me over and over again.
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Dear Lord.
That man dropped me off.
All I can do is say thank you, Jesus.
I went to the hospital.
They gave me all type of pills.
I had tetanus on that.
So I wouldn't have nothing.
I had a rape kid done and everything.
By the grace of God, they called him.
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Cause they found hisbody fluid hits up on me.
I don't know if he's still injail cause I couldn't go to court.
It was, we had to go on, I had to goon the phones, like now it still hurts.
So it was kind of, um,Oh, it was kind of fresh.
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When they had me going through court,I wasn't able to do it, you know.
So he was, who was this guy?
I didn't know him.
I'm a prostitute.
I didn't know him, but he didn't know me.
So he was indeed someonethat they were looking for?
He killed four females.
When I found out who he was, and whenthe people from the place came and told
me to identify him, we were lined up.
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It was told, I'm not the only one.
I'm not the only victim.
By the grace of God,he killed four of them.
Yes, that's the grace of God.
So God got arrested for a reason.
Yes.
I've been asking whatis my purpose with God?
I know a lot of guys, but Igave up on God a long time ago.
I really did.
I really did, because I had toask Him so many times, Why do you
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keep letting me go through this?
Can't leave this world messed up.
Going up messed up.
He put me through a test,you know what I'm saying?
But I know He put me here.
So I can have a testimonybecause I'm not the only one.
I can save lives.
Tell us about some of the women youwere with and I know you explained
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something that they were like familyand tried to make a, you know, I had,
I, I had more females being my familymore than my own family was to me.
But not for me.
I lived with different, multiple,different races of females,
different cultures, you know.
I think you told me something, um, youwould get together and you all would,
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like, have No, this, this wasn't this.
That's, you call them wife in laws.
What?
We call them wife in laws.
I have plenty of wife in laws.
Wife a longs?
Wife in laws.
Wife in laws?
Yeah.
Oh, what's that?
Wife in long?
Yeah, what is that?
That's just like, the E, hermits.
What is that?
That's just like, the E, hermits.
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You in a relationship with this man,she in a relationship with this man.
These people are all young.
You married to him, she married to him.
That's the minimum.
In this country?
Yeah, you got, you cannotsay something social wise.
Remember that?
Just like pimpin and whorin Yeah.
Pimpin and prostitution.
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Tell you that.
Some females, can I say this,some females, PIMS got females
that work the job, good job.
Really?
And, and they taking money from them.
And the women going?
You got some married, yeah.
You got some married, you gotsome PIMS married, and they
got females that's out there.
So when, so they're basicallySome females don't care.
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They looking at it likethey getting their money.
You gotta look at it.
Some females looking likeI'm getting my money.
I don't care if I'm gonna get my money.
I got a house.
I got a car.
Some females in headache.
I know some females that used to I knowsome females that used to work in a bank.
Lawyers.
Doctors.
CNAs.
And not get prostituted, okay?
Ain't nothing effective on prostitutes.
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Just being real.
Yes, ma'am.
Yes, ma'am.
My money.
You, the money that they give everytwo weeks, you get one day or more.
I was getting like that.
I'm getting a couple stacks ofbetter dancing off the pole.
Depends on where you go.
If you out there, you take thisand you go to Vegas or anything.
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You, you know, you finna comeup with 20, 000 or better.
Something for owning a home or whatever.
Cause they coming, they getting it.
So how much money?
They got their money.
How much money have you, youknow, just estimate how much
money you made in a month.
Just some small.
If 000 a day or better.
I have seen 20, 000 in myhand coming from one man.
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I have took road taxes from men.
I have took foreign moniesfrom them and didn't know it.
And you take it to, uh, a placeand they'll give you more for
that, the more it said on that,the currency of the money.
You know, um, This isa big enterprise thing.
Yeah.
Okay.
But this been going on for a while, whydo you think they can't shut it down?
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The government is in that.
All of them is in there.
All of them is up in there.
You know, I'm, I'm gonnatell you like this.
I done dated some celebrities.
I done dated some, some,some in the office.
A lot of them know that.
Come on.
Same as you see.
You know, what, what's the name of that?
The Oprah, not the Oprah, but um,
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President might be seeing somebody too.
Y'all forgot, uh, what's her name?
Melody Monroe had keys to the White House.
Come on now.
Should've told y'all something about that.
Okay.
Alright.
You know, I mean, it'sbeen going on for years.
Yeah.
Can't stop that.
It's been going on since the 70s, the 60s.
Okay, back in B.
C., Jesus time.
Yeah.
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You know, so it's been out there.
Okay.
You know, um, You And, somefemales, y'all gotta understand,
Some females, they just, they doesit because they never had a life.
Some females see that money, theylike, Man, I want that money.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not the life.
It's not the life.
It's not the life.
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About trafficking too though,do, is it, I don't know, I should
have looked this up, and I canlook it up later about the stats.
Um, of course being trafficking, is it alot of prostitutes being done that way?
Just more of them, because I know theytake, Kids off the street and go do this.
Some kids don't be tucking alot of these little girls hot.
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They just go out there, they seea man and they and, and, and, and,
and they ain't got no male figure.
So they look like this is a male figure.
This male same I just said.
So they look like this is love.
They look like it's a father figure.
This man show me some attentionand, you know, Yeah, he, he, he
supposed to be finessing your mind.
I tell you what you gonna get, hegonna buy you the finest things.
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Cause you getting the finest,you getting the finest money too.
You buying the finest things.
So yes, he gonna dress you to impress.
To go out there and get that money.
And that club go outthere in them streets.
But you got some that had agood home, mom and father.
That's just the life they wanted to live.
Cause I done seen somethat had a good life.
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They didn't want fornothing, but they out there.
I don't, you know what?
That's, you're absolutely right.
I was not thinking about, I was at firstthinking like they were just snatched
and then it was against their will.
You got something, don't get it twisted.
You got something that does.
You got parents that sell their kids.
Same way, like I feel as though our kids,them mommas should be locked up too.
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You know, just be real.
Yeah, I feel like y'all pushed them kids.
Y'all knew this man, y'all knewthis man sat here and there,
that good young girl, Aaliyah.
I love y'all.
So come on, y'all should've knewnot to sit there and introduce
y'all daughter to this man.
Same way, you know, like, come on.
Y'all, y'all, y'all know it's outhere so why push your daughters?
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Why have your daughtersaround these grown leads?
Some of these men profit and deal withthese women just to get what they want.
Facts.
Those are facts.
When they say, oh, this is, this is mymale friend, or they, you know, They
uncles, and it ain't they uncles, you knowwhat I'm saying, and they do it for them.
I done seen that so many,so, so, so many times.
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A female growing up, andthis man, I seen her grew up.
So you're saying that we are overlookingParents that are trying to do kids.
You got parents, you got some parentsthat push their kids to do it.
You got, um, kids thatjust do, do, do, do, do.
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You got some that just say they wantto do it they self, they see the money.
Got some, I'ma put it like this,when you don't love yourself,
you don't have self love.
When the devil break your mindand you let him rape it, you'll
be out there in the streets.
Either mentally messed up or messed upout there on the streets really messed up.
Cause I done seen prostitutes outthere really messed up on drugs.
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Some of them dope dating justto get a little hit every now
and then and, and whatever.
And some of them getting their money.
So we got all type of women.
Would you think, this is a questionfor you, if young people, young kids
especially, are looking at, um, some stuffthey shouldn't be watching, you know,
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like pornography and things like that,it can lead to trafficking, do you think?
No.
No?
Okay, why not?
It's out here.
How can you hide things from them?
I'm not saying they're hiding them.
I said that they could lead to that.
So it's them seeing No.
You don't think so?
No.
Okay.
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Either way, it's there's something intheir mind, or they just crunk to it.
But, yeah, it's something in their minds,so I mean, they had to see it first.
They didn't get to see it in their mind.
And now, they're sexualized.
Yeah.
It depends on, I'm gonna say it like this.
I talk to a lot of females as faras when their situation will matter.
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And my female said, why would I sithere and stay in the house with my
mama when my uncle sleeping with me?
So I come out here and get some money.
I'm not getting no money from him.
You don't know what went on in that home.
See, back in the days, and it'sstill going on, um, what goes on
in my house stays in my house.
So a lot of kids couldn't say, oh,I'm being touched by such and such.
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Oh, you're not.
So you had a lot of kids that was breakand molested so they feel as though why
should I I'm gonna get money I'm alreadylike this, but that's no self esteem
That's the devil working in your mindand say going out there whatever whatever
instead of saying well get you some helpmentally let go of that God if you deal
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with you got their religion and take yourmeds cuz God said don't be a student you
need to take your meds cuz you don't needthem and and and and work with yourself
get some help some counseling Like Idid, I have a psychiatrist, I have a
counselor, I have medicine that I take.
I know how to take it, becauseI know that's what's going to
make me grow up, you know whatI'm saying, a little more better.
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I used to say, oh, I don't, Iused to judge myself and say,
I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm not human.
Because I had to take medsbecause I had a problem.
I was bringing this up because I'vetalked to a lot of people and I've seen
it where, and I can, I honestly, I cansee the connection, because if a person's
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too young to be watching something andthey start being sexualized, and they're
thinking that it's okay, and then ifit's, They're being rewarded for it and
then they're, it gets twisted and then inthat case, they can easily be trafficked.
But I keep agreeing with you,so this is where I'm getting at.
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So, um, just be very careful aboutwhat your kids are looking at.
Um, especially, I won't even gothere, about some of these, I
would say parades that we seethese kids at, shouldn't be there.
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I know youain't finna just put it out there.
Y'all got these kids confused.
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You know what I'm saying?
You get confused, whatever.
I understand, cause when they hadthat hair, it kind of bothered me when
I seen y'all having kids out there.
And people, two bad kids and two women.
I ain't trying to be funny.
That should be in y'allhouse for childhood.
Your kids shouldn't be seeingother people doing that.
End of the day.
Yes.
Oh, there's, um.
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That, the odds of him beingtrafficked is higher now.
So, um, anyway.
Oh, it's, it's, it wasn'thigh, it's been high.
The trafficking level's been high.
It's been high, I'm just saying.
The only thing that's reallyput it out was social media.
Right.
Social media really put a lot of, socialmedia really put a lot of things out.
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When Facebook came out and this mediathing, it really put a lot of things out,
opened up a lot of eyes that a lot ofpeople did not know was really going on.
Right.
Because a lot of people get to telltheir story, like I'm sitting here.
No, right, but also you're right.
But I'm saying from the point of viewthat now the individual person is more
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at higher risk to be able to be trapped.
Yeah, because they've been exposed.
Yeah, but you're right.
Two, we're seeing more of itbecause the social media, it was
hidden, now it's being exposed.
And it's being, not just exposed,it's being multiplied, because now
they can get to it, whereas before,it was harder to get to, but now
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it's making it even more prevalent.
My friend called me a couplemonths ago and said her niece, the
police, came to her momma house.
It said that her 13 year old niecewas online with a pregnant woman.
Half these kids shouldn't have phones.
Y'all paying for iPhones for what?
For your child to be sitting up there withJohn, Big Boop, and whatever it don't go.
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Who they, who on the other end of it?
You shouldn't have certain printableitems of your kids, what they not
supposed to do and what they, what, what.
Social media more know abouty'all kids than y'all do.
Put it like that.
Well, you're right about that.
Other people know about y'all kids aswatching y'all kids more than y'all do.
These kids, they activate theirpages, cause I had one at the time.
My kids are grown.
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At the time, I went through that.
I went through something like that.
If my grown, my friend and I callme and say, your daughter's never
sitting up there on Facebook.
Lil daughter, not . They up therewith the little hair brown, with the
little booty shorts on sitting there.
If you wouldn't have call me andtold me your daughter's never on
Facebook, I wouldn't even knowthat they had a Facebook page.
My daughter's 14 years old thetime my dad sent to her phone
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and I, I want her to have now.
And that's how I found out.
My daughter's on Facebook halfnaked and all the people that
was her friends was grown men.
It's a way you can monitor.
It's something you can put on thephone where parents can monitor it.
And they should be monitoring their kids.
At a certain age, I wouldn't let acertain kid have a certain phone.
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There's phones out here whereyou can dial certain numbers.
, There's phones out here where you can putcertain numbers up on there, a certain
phone that you call for emergency, ifyou want to try that phone, you know,
but Other than that, poor ass, these kidsshouldn't be walking around with no phone.
Half of them can't read a spell.
There's too much pedophiles out here.
You bad enough you can walk outhere and might get picked up.
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They picking you up out here onthe streets, that's for real.
Um, so, you know, just watch your kids.
Um, watch you around your kids.
Sometimes the family, family, why someof these family members, you don't
even know where your family is, whenyou find plenty of stuff in your kids
head and touching them, relaxing them.
Some of these kids ain'tgoing to say nothing.
They not.
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They not.
Why?
I done seen kids like that,ain't going to say nothing.
Because the simple fact, they feel asthough, I had a child that told me, said,
I didn't want to say nothing because thatperson said it's going to kill my family.
It's because my mom anddad, it's the same thing.
You don't know what's in that kid'smind when that man tellin them that.
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We got some armedshootings around here too.
We got women's days around heremolesting girls, I mean boys too.
So it's vice versa.
Yeah.
In all fairness, yeah.
Vice versa.
So we just can't say Cause Idone seen trainees out here.
I done seen men out hereprostituting themselves too as well.
And they ain't evengot dressed like a man.
They pronounce themselves as a man.
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So you got some prostitutingmales out here too as well.
You know what?
It's interesting because we have laws.
If you saw a couple episodes away, I hadinterviewed Mitch Topeka, and he has a
sex case, uh, where he, he was, uh, 1815, and he's on, um, the registry now.
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But, Don't you think being trafficked, atrafficker should have something similar?
I mean, this is aquestion for the audience.
We'll get back to that later,but it's making me think.
You know, it's a sex case,so why are they registered?
I hope we need to look at thatand maybe look at some laws maybe.
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To probably have that on the books becausethis is so prevalent, but I don't know.
Trafficking is on me.
My trafficking is, when yougot to a certain age and you
grown, you did that on your own.
Now, my thing is, when you achild and you a minor, now that's
too, that's way too prominent.
That's trafficking.
When you at a certainage, you're not grown.
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That ain't grown for me.
Put herself out there.
She knew what was finna go.
I'm just going to be real with you.
And grandma put herself out therelike I did when I got grown.
Now, but what happened to me as akid, that's what was on them adults.
When you get a certain age and you becomea grown woman or a grown man, that's when
you take accountability of your life.
You know that ain't right, butyou still go out there and do it.
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So, when I got a certain age,yeah, I did it on my own.
And a lot of people, they sitthere and say, oh, she, you know,
well, he trafficked me, baby.
He didn't traffic youif you're a grown adult.
Now, these kids, they cannot sithere and say, I'm trafficking
not just only in prostitution.
It's trafficking as far as thepeople, trafficking people, period.
Right.
They, they, they selling kids andthey selling adults around here.
That's interesting.
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You know what I'm saying?
When I was in Houston,I seen Theta Houston.
It's a lot of that going on.
For real.
With families,
I just seen the woman out there.
She had a baby.
And I simply seen the man.
She was standing on the bridge.
And I simply seen the man.
He sit there and told her.
He said, If you don't come home,them other kids gonna be sold.
So she had to stand out thereselling flowers and whatever else.
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And it's hot.
I was out there when it was like102 and the woman was standing out
there with a baby on her, on her.
So it just, traffic is, isto a whole different level.
When people said traffic.
Cause people traffic withkids, adults, all of that.
You know what I'm saying?
From across the border and everything.
You feel where I'm coming from?
So, it's just more than that.
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Right.
So, that's why you see alot of movies out here.
There's traffic and in certainplaces, countries, it's illegal.
Yeah.
So what, um, so what are you doing now?
What I'm doing now?
Tell us about Monica, Monet.
What is Monica Monet doing now?
Monet was, used to be my stripper name.
Let's just break that down.
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Monet was my stripper name.
So are you still stripping?
No.
Okay.
I'm not doing anything at all.
I'm working on myself.
Finna start writing mybook, working on my book.
Um, Telling that story.
Basically, telling my life story.
My brother passed back here on ChristmasEve, and he said, so it's before
he passed, you know, tell my story.
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So, it's, my story basically, it startsoff with my mom, um, and her, her, what
her life was for six, it's not going tobe so much of her, but it's breaking it
down to for people to understand how Igot into their life and their feelings.
And how my life, You know, fromthen on, it's coming to this earth
as far as losing her and thenme looking at life with respect.
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I don't, life and how liferespect, it took me into how it
respected me and how it done me.
And as far as growing up.
So, I'm not doing things, wellI am as far as writing my book.
Um, soon be trying topromote myself in my book.
Um, basically getting Get Monicatogether, get myself together.
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I've been through a lot.
Self love.
Um, doing me for as not.
Controlling me, because I had somuch anger I didn't know I had.
I had, I didn't love myself.
So I couldn't love no one else.
I have mental issuesthat I'm working with.
So I have to work with myself before Ican go out and work with other people.
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I'm glad to hear that you aregoing to be doing the book.
And I can't wait for it to come out.
I'm pretty sure a lot of peoplewill be interested in it.
So I think we'll see.
You know, what to look for, whatyou, seeing it through your eyes.
So now, their, your eyes also becometheir eyes, so they know what to do.
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So, again, This is aChristmas card podcast.
, we have never actually, , intervieweda victim before like this.
Everybody's a victim insome way, somehow, okay?
Because victims make victims.
Hurt people hurt people.
We want to love everybody,but we want to be informed so
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that we can make a difference.
Stop this.
, you have a peacefulexistence as much as you can.
So I brought up whether the legalsystem should look at traffickers the
same way they look at a pedophiles.
Make some stronger laws.
And first Make it known, be clearwhat it is before we start, I
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would say start penalizing people.
I'm a big fan of communicationso that they do not, people
are aware of these laws.
You have it broadcasted all overschools, everywhere, if you get caught.
caught trafficking young people becausethey cannot give consent at a certain age.
But you're right.
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They can, even though their mind isn'tup to part, they're still adults.
So we can't just charge it that way,the way we can do with Children.
please, think about this.
We're going to have some sessionslater where I can have a time when
we can actually question Miss Monet,um, to get some insight and see if
(39:04):
your kid's doing certain things.
I'm sure she'll be able to answer like,Hey, this is, I've seen this before.
Maybe you should look at this or that.
So I'll let you know when that session is.
That's going to be a live session.
, I will put an announcement out aboutthat later, but, um, I just want to say,
you know, we hear this all the time.
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You can't.
You can't change, you can't make a,what, they say a hoe into a housewife.
You know, you can'tchange a person's stripes.
But I'm here to tell you JesusChrist can because guess what?
Jesus mother, grandmother I should say,was a prostitute and she was changed.
(39:47):
So, Miss Romaine, you arechanged and you can be changed.
Don't let nobody ever put labelson you because God has broken all
those chains and He died for you.
He died for you just like He died forme, just like He died for all of you.
So, I just want to say thatso you can stay encouraged
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because this isn't the end.
You got a lot of work to dobecause God saved you by grace.
For some reason, because like shesaid, four other women are dead.
And you're sitting here by thegrace of God, you're saying, yes,
it is something for me to do.
And we look forward to you doing it.
(40:31):
So we're wrapping up now.
But um, is there anythingelse just quickly that you
want to say to the audience?
Um, about Monica, and rightnow we're in awe of you.
We really thank you for being sotransparent and having the courage
to come up here and just speak abouttrafficking and being a victim and what's
(40:56):
really going on is going on all over.
And that means we are gonna havesome big people go down for that.
And they should.
And they should.
I'm going to say this because I'm gladthat you said Mayfair because I was
going to say something about that.
But thank you for coming to me andto let me speak on my behalf of this.
(41:18):
I appreciate that.
You got a lot of these.
Top people, like I saidearlier, best into the traffic.
Um, police officer, that's why so manyfemales don't even want to go to them.
Because I done had some, I had faith.
You got some that'll sit thereand say, I won't take you to jail
if you, if you do these things.
(41:39):
For me or whatever.
It got to stop.
It got to stop.
But that's the reason why it'snot going to stop because we got
so many of them that's in it.
You feel where I'm coming from?
And it's coming fromthe top, the head top.
That is, we know what I said earlier,it's been going on for years.
And like any place, when wewant to get something done, we
do have to start at the top.
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And not the little people, wehave to get the big people.
So we're praying.
Um, that guy does do that and ship thingsup because, and you can be a part of it.
Um, if you haven't already,please join my subscriber list.
Um, so you're aware of whendifferent events are happening.
Yeah.
That's all.
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Um, it's not about that.
This is about what you have to say.
Not how you look.
So, again, thank you all for being onthe show, coming in and watching us.
Um, sense of love, sense of encouragement.
It's not easy, you know, trying to be outhere, trying to do the work of the Lord
but, our Lord, His grace is sufficient,. , thank you for listening, and may you
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have a week filled with blessings.
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