October 7, 2024 • 32 mins
Overcoming Addictions: A Holistic Approach
In this episode of the Prisoner's Pardon Podcast, host Michi J. discusses the concept of food and substance triggers that could hinder recovery from addiction with special guest Dr. Richard Ruling. Dr. Ruling provides insights into how certain foods and substances can lead to addictions and discusses a five-day plan to quit smoking and other addictions using a holistic approach that includes hydration, diet moderation, deep breathing exercises, and the avoidance of caffeine and alcohol. He emphasizes the power of biblical teachings and spiritual support in overcoming challenges. The episode also explores the role of faith and spirituality in healing and personal growth, highlighting testimonials of individuals who have successfully overcome addiction through holistic means. Dr. Ruling introduces activated charcoal powder as a detox aid and promotes his book, 'Health, Happiness and Destiny,' as a resource for further guidance.
00:00 Introduction to Food Triggers
01:26 Special Guest: Dr. Richard Ruling
02:02 Prison Perspectives and Attitudes
05:24 Holistic Approach to Overcoming Addictions
07:28 Five-Day Plan to Quit Smoking
16:32 The Role of Faith in Recovery
22:24 Practical Tips and Final Thoughts
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Michi J (00:18):
Hello, everyone.
And welcome to a prisoner's pardonpodcast with me, your host, Michi J.
Have you ever thought about food triggers?
I mean, have you ever thoughtabout how certain foods can
lead you down the wrong path?
We often think about that whenwe think about people, but have
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we actually made that connection?
When we think about food,
Well, a lot of us have gotten smart.
About thinking about thatwhen it comes to people.
Now we do need to startthinking about this when it
comes to food triggers as well.
Do we even know what they are?
Do we stay away from themor just at least limit them?
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Well, it's time for us to get smart aboutwhat these foods are and how it can just
lead to addictions and even diseases.
Most importantly, we want to lookat how these foods hinder recovery.
Yes.
Certain foods can hinder.
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Recovery.
On our show today, we're going to begin that process of
just getting smart, and that'swhy I have today a special guest.
His name is Dr.
Richard Ruling.
He is a medical doctor, a teacher, he's aspeaker, he's been all over, he's also an
author and he's written this particularbook I want him to speak about is the book
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on health, happiness and destiny that comefrom wise choices and we need to get wise.
So join me in welcoming Dr ruling.
Hello.
Dr Richard Ruhling (01:58):
Hi, thank you so much, Michi J.
Good to be with you.
God bless you and your ministry.
And as I understand it, this isa prison ministry to some extent.
And I just would like to keep that inmind in addressing your main audience.
Because as I mentioned to you, Ihad a friend that went to prison
for 14 years for a stupid mistake,but it shouldn't have been 14.
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And it's not happy.
But on the other hand, I remember a littlepoem that two men looked out from prison
bars, One saw mud, the other saw stars.
You know, it's a perspective and, uh, wecan't help, uh, necessarily the things
that come, but our attitudes are importantand, uh, attitude is like altitude,
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uh, higher attitudes is like a higheraltitude to give a better view of life.
And so, uh, we can be thankful.
Uh, it is our circumstances aren't worse.
And, uh, in prison, they do inthis country, they get, , food,
, clothing, , medical care if needed.
Uh, that's not really my prime best thing.
I think medical care is potentiallydangerous because of the drugs, , even,
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, having adverse side effects, et cetera.
But, uh,, prisons, uh,, my friendgot, , some education while in
there, learning, , certain thingsthat he is applying now as he's out.
And, , I think that, , takeadvantage of all you can learn.
And, , and, , on that topic, let mejust suggest that, , most prisons
have available, I think, a Bible.
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Scripture is, , a better educationthan almost anything else we
could want, in my opinion.
If looking back on it, I have 25years of training and education,
but I would spit on it comparedto what I'm learning in the Bible.
Most of that is not practical.
I don't need, uh, calculus nearly finishedme in college, as a matter of fact.
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But, uh, government, uh, history.
Uh, English literature,uh, who needs that?
You know, at this point, , we needto understand how to live better.
And, uh, uh, basically I see thatin the Bible, God's guidelines.
If we lie, cheat and steal, we'renot happy people, you know, and
basically, , if we live well andare trying to do the best we know
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and share good stuff with others.
, we feel good in responsebecause we're giving them value.
If we cheat them, we're going totry to avoid them, uh, et cetera.
Not good, , it's better to, live well.
And, uh, I, I see that God hasgiven us the guidelines for that.
And, uh, and there's a reward for thatbecause just like people in prison
hope to get out early on probation.
This life is probation for us.
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If we live well, there's a hereafterfor us that's better than anything.
Uh, you know, if, if I could be inthe White House, it would still be the
wrong house, as far as I'm concerned,compared to what God wants for us.
Yes.
And that's what God wants for us.
He wants the best for us.
If you listened to our last episode.
Rob talked about how he used.
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God to help him get outof the grip of addiction.
And that's what God wants for us.
He doesn't want us to beimprisoned by addiction.
As you heard Dr.
Ruhlin say just a few moments agoPrescribed drugs can have adverse effects.
One of those affects is a personcan become addicted to the drug.
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I've heard this many times frompeople in recovery that they became
addicted to the drug that theywere taken to help them get well.
And this is why we need todo the holistic approach.
And using a holistic approachis also looking at the
spiritual aspects of things.
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I would like to share an experience by way of an
illustration because, uh, one of myfavorite authors says one example
is worth many precepts or teachings.
Yeah.
And, uh, it was my privilege whiletaking internal medicine to help
in a five day plan to stop smoking.
That was at the University of Arizona.
And, uh, I, I was actually sharingwith, uh, a couple others who did
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speaking as well, uh, each night forfive nights and at the, on the fifth
night, more than a hundred peopleraised their hand and said they had
not smoked in the previous 24 hours.
Um, I had a man in a little townof Southwest City, Missouri, tell
me, uh, actually he was the mayor.
He said, Doc, I've tried manytimes to quit, but this is the
easiest I've ever found it.
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Now, I'm not saying it's easy.
But what I want to share with yourpeople right now can help them with
addictions, plural, not just smoking.
Uh, alcohol can be anaddiction for some people.
Caffeine can be an addiction.
And, uh, in quitting smoking, the idea isto, uh, I think, uh, make a strong choice.
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Uh, now, if I said, for example, to agroup of people, uh, I have a friend
who has got lots of money, a billion,and he would give a million dollars to
anybody who quit smoking, I think mostpeople would find a way to get it done.
It's, it's the strength of, of,of determination and conviction.
I have to add here, . That.
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It takes both.
It takes.
Determination and convictionalongside with having help.
You can't do it by yourself.
And the truth is that.
That, um, these addictions do morethan a million dollars worth of damage
to us because life is, is, is tooprecious to give away for, for money.
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Basically, you can't get it back withmedical care, which costs money, etc.
Once it's gone, uh,it's, it's, it's too bad.
I want to share the ingredientsto this five day program.
To stop smoking , it was foundedby an MD doctor, , Wayne McFarland
who, understood how the body reacts.
And, there are, aboutfive simple things.
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Number one, a strong conviction.
I choose not to smoke.
Don't promise anybody because if youbreak , you think, oh, I gave up.
I quit.
I can't do that.
but if we just make amistake and we have one more.
get up and do it again, , the ideais the next smoke is really the habit.
Don't try to taper, , just say this.
I'm quitting, you know, and, and, and werecognize there's going to be a few days.
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Uh, really bad feelings, and,uh, you know, some people think
they're going to climb the wall,but I'm going to help right now
with things that will minimize that.
Because the urge to smoke, or theurge for whatever the addiction , is,
is short lived, and uh, it, it,it, You know, it's kind of like
needing to go to the bathroom.
If you say, no, I can't go right now,uh, you forget about it for a while.
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You know, it comes back, of course, andsooner or later you do have to empty your
bladder, but you don't have to, uh, uh,necessarily take the addiction thing.
And so if you have , a strategy of whatto do to stall it off, when you get a
craving, take some lung exercises, deepbreaths, as deep as you can breathe.
Blow all the air out until youcan't blow any more air out.
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The moving of your diaphragm upand down to fill your lungs and
empty them stimulates your adrenalglands on top of the kidneys.
It squirts out a little juicethat makes you feel better.
This is why public speakers, whenthey get nervous, are told, before
you get up, take some deep breaths.
Okay.
And, uh, and you feel betterhaving had some deep breaths.
And the same way withsmoking or any addiction.
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And, uh, stalling it off.
By having a strategy where you say,uh, I'm going to go for a, um, a drink
of water because sometimes throatirritation is a signal for a smoke.
It triggers the body.
I can eat a smoke or, um, thinkof the water that you're going to
drink as a, um, uh, an antibiotic.
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Uh, washing the nicotineout of the kidneys.
Okay, so the quicker you get ridof all the nicotine, the better.
In fact, diet can help you on thatbecause if you load your system with
heavy foods, uh, it's gonna take longerfor the nicotine to get out and those
heavy foods make your brain foggy.
And you can, you know, uh,too much food in the stomach
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means no blood in the brain.
And the, the, uh, uh, frontal lobes ofthe brain have the fine, delicate nerves
where you make your choices and decisions.
And those fine nerves havefine, narrow blood vessels.
And if you, if you eat too much, youjust don't have enough circulation
to, for the willpower to say, hey, no.
, I knew a pathologist, a woman, whohelped in stop smoking programs, and
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she said, uh, and understanding thebody well, she said, for quitting
smoking fast for the first day.
Don't eat any food.
A lot of times smokers after ameal that they want to smoke right
away because their nicotine levelis dropping into the bloodstream.
So, don't eat the food, but just,uh, uh, or if you're going to eat,
eat a fruit diet for the first day,have some fruit juices between meal.
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If, if you do anything betweenmeals, have fruit juices.
It's better not to do between meals.
If you, if you can do that and, andjust, uh, eat a, a light diet or, or
nothing at all for the first day, itintensifies your willpower and you'll.
You'll be off to a better start whenyou say no, uh, if you, if you try to
taper, think of this as like cutting,uh, uh, the tail off of a dog, one inch
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at a time, each time you cut that tail,uh, the dog hurts and yelps and so on.
But if you get it one good whack,you know, get rid of it all, uh,
you don't have to hurt cut it again.
It's painful for a few days,but then the dog heals.
Michi J (11:13):
Okay.
Let me, let me, I'm sorry to interrupt.
Sure.
Okay.
First off, we're saying to drink water,don't eat too much because that actually
makes you tired and don't even havethe strength to fight off anything.
Dr Richard Ruhling (11:28):
Right.
Michi J (11:28):
so either fast or have a very light diet something like
fruit juices and stuff like that.
And that's going to help with that.
These are the sort of strategiesalong with deep breathing.
Is that right?
Dr Richard Ruhling (11:41):
Yes.
And the deep breathingcan be aided by exercise.
Going for a short walk out to the mailboxor to the corner or around the block,
uh, encourages deep breathing and thinkof this as a, as a lifestyle change.
Uh, everything you're choosing to dodifferently now is because you want to
quit smoking and all those efforts arestrengthening your willpower to quit.
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So, uh, Make the habit changes.
Don't, after a smoke, uh, sitdown in your favorite chair or
after a meal, sit in your favoritechair where you want to smoke.
Get out and go for awalk instead, or so on.
Call a neighbor.
Have a buddy that, uh, uh, someonethat wants you to quit smoking, not
somebody that smokes with you, okay?
And, and just say, hey, I'm quitting.
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Uh, uh, give me a call, uh, once ortwice a day maybe, or, uh, I'll give
you a call when I really have a craving.
Maybe you can talk meout of it, or whatever.
So, uh, those are ideas, uh, for astrategy, uh, along with, uh, and if
you exercise, you'll sleep better.
Uh, so good sleep, uh, helps your nerves.
And, uh, but the huge thing inthis is, uh, a couple of things
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that you really gotta say no to,and that's caffeine and alcohol.
Because caffeine gears your nervesup, and nicotine gears them down.
And together, they keep you in balance.
If you try to quit smoking and,and yeah, what numbs your nerves
is not there, your nerves are goingto go out the roof with caffeine.
And, uh, so, uh, quitting both makesit easier to quit than if you say, Oh,
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I can't quit both at the same time.
I'm just going to quit one.
You're in trouble.
Okay.
But if you will quit both.
And not use any alcohol that affectsthose fine, delicate nerves up
in the brain for your willpower.
You'll be, you'll be betterable to cope with this.
And, uh, and even eating foodlightly, instead of, uh, uh,
uh, pigging out for the week.
Uh, you can, you can tolerate, uh,uh, an absence of food or a, a,
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a low level with, with fruit as adetox agent, you know, type of thing.
Michi J (13:40):
So some of the triggers you're saying is the bad triggers is caffeine.
alcohol and too much food.
Dr Richard Ruhling (13:50):
Yes, that's correct.
Uh, rich food, uh, uh, you know,uh, pies, cakes, uh, um, chips.
Yeah.
I, I remember, uh, I think I met,uh, my medical school did a study
with rats and gave them a choiceof alcohol or water to drink.
And if they were on a gooddiet, they chose water.
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But if they were on a poor diet,They chose alcohol in preference.
If they added coffee and 11 spices.
The alcohol consumption soared veryhigh, and if they changed the diet
back to a bland, simple diet, uh, thealcohol consumption dropped off again.
So a lot of this, uh, we do it toourselves by choices, and so, uh, we
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can make better choices, especiallyduring the time of quitting, which is
really about, uh, uh, this is the fiveday plan, because you can get, um,
most people The great majority willhave the alcohol or the tobacco or the
caffeine out of the system in five days.
And, uh, actually, if you look atyour hand extended, um, the first
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day of the little finger is, is bad.
Second day, a littlehigher, a little worse.
Third day is the peak for most people.
Fourth day, a little better.
And then the thumb really dropped down.
The fifth night they say,Hey, we're going to make it.
And, uh, if you can do that,uh, following the steps and keep
in mind that, uh, whatever itis that you're trying to break.
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Uh, that next, uh, smoke, that nextdrink, uh, uh, is the whole habit.
Okay, don't think, oh, I just wantit once and then I'll quit later.
Uh, you won't quit later if you giveinto this one, probably, you know.
You can get up and try again in thefive day plan we encourage people.
Uh, is a little child learning to walk.
Uh, he falls down a lot oftimes, but he keeps getting up
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and he finally learns to walk.
And we can do that.
Michi J (15:42):
I like how you, you brought in the practical because these are
something that, um, people can understandand really get a hold of and do.
So you talked about a buddy, havinga buddy and a buddy is going to do
exactly what again is to motivate
Dr Richard Ruhling (16:04):
you.
He's sympathetic.
He wants to help.
He can try to encourage youif you call him to say, Hey,
uh, I'm having a rough day.
Uh, in fact, uh, from a Christianperspective, it's good to have a
Christian buddy who, who can praywith you even and say, God help us.
Uh, we all have troubles, trials,difficulties, but, uh, we, we need
your spirit and, uh, give us wisdom.
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We know that we're notgoing to die from this.
Hang on there and, uh, youcan make it, uh, hang tight.
Michi J (16:32):
So, and doctor, in your perspective, because I'm a tap
into your spirit, um, your, becauseyou wrote a lot of books, I've
seen you're very well versed.
So in your opinion, why would, we'regoing to talk about two characters.
We're going to talk about the Lordhimself as well as the enemy, which
we normally know as the devil.
So why would the, why would the enemywant a person to keep being addicted?
Dr Richard Ruhling (17:00):
Well, because, uh, when we, when we, uh, first of all,
they ultimately will ruin the body.
Alcoholics die of cirrhosis orcancer of the esophagus, uh, liver,
whatever, you know, different problems.
Uh, hey, uh, I recently saw anarticle on caffeine and, and, uh,
coffee, how it's good for you.
This is crazy and stupid becausethey haven't seen it from my
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perspective as a physician.
There are a dozen things that caffeine orcoffee can do to you, uh, as soft drinks
that, uh, are bad starting at the top.
I'll just give you a quick review.
Um, uh, people, uh, by the way,when they try to quit coffee or, uh,
caffeine, many of them get a headache.
And the drug companies put caffeinein Anacin or, uh, Excedrin.
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Uh, Excedrin is justTylenol plus caffeine.
Anacin is just aspirin plus caffeine.
Uh, caffeine, and so when peoplehave a withdrawal headache, They
take anacin or excedrin and theyfeel, oh, that's a great medicine.
Well, but they're still addicted then.
If they would just quit it all and don'tuse anacin or excedrin, uh, they can
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take a plain aspirin or plain Tylenol,take a couple of them, or something
else from your doctor if you wish,but generally I'm, I'm trying to help
people avoid doctors because it's comeback, come back, take this drug, take
that, and sooner or later they're on abunch of, a bag of pills and, and you
don't know which pill is causing what.
You know, with such symptoms,adverse drug reactions.
Go ahead.
Michi J (18:27):
So the enemy wants you to do this because one, it's going to
shorten your life, your life, and youwon't be able to do productive things.
Because this, this addiction,this bad habit is going to keep
forcing his hand and interrupt.
Dr Richard Ruhling (18:47):
It's, it's elusive.
Uh, we think we can do whateverwe want, but, uh, the more we do
those things, the less we feellike doing, uh, the good things.
Exactly.
So, uh, I would just say, and speakingof the caffeine again, going from
the top of the head down, headaches,trouble sleeping, Trouble with nerves.
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I've had, uh, I wish I had a 10 billnow for everybody that wanted something
for their nerves, a tranquilizer,you know, because really I would ask
them how much coffee do you think?
Well, quite a bit, you know,so it's a problem that way.
And, uh, uh, the, the, you've seenpictures with little kids with a,
uh, uh, an ugly looking upper lip.
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They have hair, hair lip or cleft palatewhere they, even their words are sounding
a little funny, uh, an appeal for surgery.
Well, the problem with those, uh,little kids is that their mother
was drinking too much caffeine inthe first trimester of pregnancy.
That has been linked to excessivecaffeine intake, uh, during
pregnancy, coffee, et cetera.
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And so, uh, rather than tell people, paya thousand dollars for surgery, just, hey,
quit, uh, quit the, uh, drinking of thatduring pregnancy and quit it all the time.
It's not good for us.
Uh, I took a year of cardiology and inmy training, uh, the coronary care unit.
Did not allow coffee or caffeine becausein the context of a, of a heart attack.
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It could trigger a fatal arrhythmia.
It lowers the threshold forventricular fibrillation, which
is a fatal arrhythmia, especiallyin the context of a heart attack.
So
Michi J (20:22):
there we go with that word trigger.
So it's triggering it.
So that caffeine is triggering.
We need some good triggers.
So the good triggers would bewater, exercise, good sleep.
Have a nice sleep.
Dr Richard Ruhling (20:38):
Actually, they're, they're, in a sense,
they all help the body.
I don't think of them as triggers,per se, like, uh, the negatives.
Negatives trigger and shoot you dead.
But, uh, I think of, uh, all of thoseas, if you're really feeling strong
and well and calm, who needs a, a,a drink of this or a smoke of that?
It's when we get to feeling bad that wethink this is going to help us and it's
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only because of the withdrawal symptomif we didn't have withdrawal symptoms,
we wouldn't need those things at all.
I don't, I'm 83 and I'm in great healthbecause I've done it right all my life.
I have never smoked a single cigaretteand I've never had a drink of alcohol.
Michi J (21:16):
Yeah, I was the reason why I say triggers is because,
you know, it can be good or bad.
And.
It's going to lead to something else.
That's what I'm saying.
What's going to motivate you andyou, uh, and it helps me to think of.
Just flipping it and make lookingand finding the good triggers because
I need to be triggered in the rightdirection So I need to find that's
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why I'm thinking of it like that tohelp because it can not just one thing
I'll just do this and then that's it.
But I look at it.
It's going to give me the momentum toGo down the right path versus going the
wrong way what these other triggers thenegative ones would do So yeah, that's
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why I was thinking about triggers.
So we talked about water eating too muchGoing on to a lighter diet exercises
fruit juices a good buddy, and also,um, just having a companion that's, you
know, have Christian values that canpray for you and direct you toward God.
Dr Richard Ruhling (22:24):
I would like to talk more about that, but one last
natural remedy that may be helpfulis a, if people had in their medicine
cupboard, most of it is junk and thingsI wouldn't want, but Charcoal powder,
uh, capsules, uh, tablets, whatever canbe very helpful in the emergency room.
When people overdose, theycame in maybe even comatose.
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We would pump their stomach.
And even put in charcoal afterwards, ifthey're still breathing and so on, uh,
when they come in, they're likely tosurvive, uh, with treatment to pump their
stomach and, and use charcoal becausecharcoal, one capsule has the surface
area microscopically of a football field.
It, uh, it will absorb toxinsand poisons and, uh, I have
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used it for, uh, snake bites.
Uh, you know, put a little poulticeor compress over the ankle where
the, where the bite was, et cetera.
And it will draw, uh, uh, the poisonand give some internally, uh, it, it
absorbs toxin and poisons in the body.
It's not a drug.
Uh, it has no bad side effects,except maybe you might get
a little bit constipated.
Or something, but this is,uh, it's, it's not a chemical.
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Okay.
It's just a, uh, um, andthey can buy it cheaply.
It's not like a drug where you have topay a lot of money for it, but have it
in the medicine cupboard for when youmight think you have reacted badly.
Sometimes people, uh, have gas.
You know, and this is a good cure,a natural remedy for gas as well.
And so our indigestion,uh, it's excellent.
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So I just want to throw that out.
And now going to the, uh,comment about, uh, God.
Um, a lot of people today,uh, think that God is out.
God is dead.
Where is he?
Why?
Why is he allowing somuch trouble in the world?
Well, think about it.
God cannot be a universal bellboy toanswer everybody's prayer right now.
Okay.
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Uh, he does answer prayer.
Sometimes it's, uh, it's, uh,Occasionally it might be right now and
we've all maybe you can talk to peopleand you'll find some that had had an
experience like, wow, that's amazing.
That was a miracle.
I remember.
Hey, in fact, right now, I can tellyou within the past week, Robert F.
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Kennedy Jr, who was running for president.
Now he's with Trump.
He's he tells his journey to God.
He actually became an addictfor 14 years to heroin.
And he said, it's a terriblething, you become a liar, etc.
But, um, he told how he cameacross a book called Synchronicity
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by Carl Jung, a psychiatrist.
And ordinarily, I don't like, Psychiatry,uh, as a, as a group of people,
psychiatrists have been less able to stopsmoking than other medical specialists
because they, they reason it out and theyend up the reasons with, well, I just
have another smoke, I guess, you know,it's, it's a, it's an atheistic view,
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but this Carl, uh, young, uh, spelledJ U N G, uh, saw if out of many years
of experience, he could not prove God.
But he said people with a faith inGod did better with their problems
and their addictions and so on.
They, uh, they, uh, uh, relapsed better.
(25:38):
They lived well longer, et cetera.
And I can say, uh, it's to me, the wordGod is like starting a crossword puzzle
with the right word in the beginning.
If you have God in the beginning, thenit fits in with the different words,
hog and dog and things like that.
Uh, it's, uh, you know, in life,uh, God, it'll go better with you.
If you look to God for help, I, uh, hewill, he doesn't always do what we want
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him to do, but he, uh, he can, uh, workit out so that things do work for good.
And trusting his word in theBible is, is an important key.
, Michi J (26:09):
would you say the charcoal powder capsules, they're like a detox?
Dr Richard Ruhling (26:15):
They help the detox process.
They'll help you get the get the whateverit is If it's nicotine or caffeine or some
poison in your system, they absorb it.
So it goes out in your bowelmovement, you know Uh, so it'll
Michi J (26:28):
make it faster detox.
Yes,
Dr Richard Ruhling (26:30):
exactly.
That's right.
Okay.
Michi J (26:32):
All right, so Where do where could we get those from?
Dr Richard Ruhling (26:36):
Uh, any drugstore should have them, uh, sadly, uh,
because they tend to turn drug, uh,tests negative, uh, sometimes, uh, uh,
governments don't want, the charcoalto be available, they want to know your,
if you're doing it, they want to find itin your blood, but it, it can help get
it out of your system, and I would saylook for it and keep it in your medicine
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cupboard and use it when you don'tfeel so well, and give it a, uh, uh, 24
hours, you'll feel, be feeling better.
Michi J (27:03):
So, um, about how much does it cost?
Do you know, generally?
Dr Richard Ruhling (27:07):
Uh, probably under 10.
Michi J (27:09):
Really that cheap?
Dr Richard Ruhling (27:11):
It's not a drug.
It's a natural product.
Uh, it might be more.
I don't know.
I, I haven't, truthfully,haven't bought any recently.
Uh, I'm living well and, and, uh,what I have is, is lasting well, but
activated charcoal is, is activatedmeans that it will be more active in
this process than just plain charcoal.
Michi J (27:30):
Okay.
Never thought about it.
Cause anytime we talk about charcoal,I'm thinking about barbecues.
Now we're going to belooking at it different.
That's that makes a lot of sense.
So , I like how , we're looking atit holistically along with, praying.
And, , my last episode talkedabout how addiction is.
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Wrestling.
It's a wrestling match, but this hasgiven us more to work with and not just
telling people, Oh, just pray and do that
. Dr Richard Ruhling: I just wanted to say, uh, our, our faith is
strengthened by reading the scripture
it's not as easy reading, but Godknows the end from the beginning,
, in closing, uh, say that, uh, it was myprivilege to attend a leadership training
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institute for Campus Crusade for Christ.
And they had what they callthe four spiritual laws.
And, uh, the first one is that God lovesus and has a wonderful plan for our life.
Thank you.
And the second law is that man is sinful,separated from God, and we really can't
know his best for us in our fallen state.
But the third law is that Christ cameto bridge the gap between God and man.
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He showed us a better life.
It's not impossible.
It's not easy, of course, butwe can do the right things.
His guidelines are for our best good.
And the fourth Uh, law is that wehave to personally receive Christ.
It's not just a matterof knowing the good.
We have to say, God, I'm, I'm makingthis commitment to you as, as Robert F.
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Kennedy, uh, said in his journey towardGod, he was reading Carl Young and
Young said, fake it till you make it.
In other words, do the things, gothrough the steps, say, I'm going
to do this and, uh, God will bewith you in that and you'll, uh,
gain somehow one way or the other.
Uh, in fact, uh, Kennedy said that hehad this amazing experience shortly
after one of his readings and so on.
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He was playing volleyball and, uh, uh,the ball was hit very high, came down on
a post And bounced toward the fence andhe, he, uh, as the ball hit the post, he
doesn't know why he didn't figure it out.
But he said that ball is goingto get run over by a Mac truck.
Why in the world would he saythat it bounced on the fence?
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And went toward, uh, out of thevolleyball court toward the, uh,
down the hill toward the road.
And would you believe, a Mack truckran over that ball and popped it.
And, uh, so, and he, Kennedyfigured out that that was God.
Okay, God knew his thoughts,uh, or gave him that thing.
It was a, we all had coincidenceswhere, hey, could that be God doing it?
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Give God the credit.
And go with it.
I mean, just live the best you can.
And his word, the Bible, is thebest way to really find it out.
I would say for people thataren't Christians, start
with the book of John, maybe.
It's a relational type of thing.
In John, first chapter, John the Baptistannounced, uh, Christ as the lamb of God.
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He, the lamb died for our sins.
Okay.
He, in Isaiah 53, the Jews don't getit, but in their book of Isaiah 53,
Christ was the lamb slain to reconcileus to God, to see that God loves us
and he pays for our sins, et cetera.
And we can forget them and live well withhim, with his help and by his spirit.
So I thank you for letting me,uh, share this opportunity.
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Well, thank you for talking to us as a medical doctor and also letting
us really get a chance to, , hear howthis holistic approach of first, you
know, using water, not eating too much,having a light diet, fruit juices,
Having exercise, sleep, all thesebasic things that we should be doing
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anyway, and we're seeing now if we don'tdo these things, how it can lead to
addictions and ultimately to diseases.
What in the last thing youwant to say to the audience?
Um, thank you so much,first of all, for coming.
Dr Richard Ruhling (31:26):
Well, you're welcome.
And the point is that the book youmentioned, uh, health, happiness
and destiny has a lot in it andthey can get it online for cheap.
Okay.
It's a digital copy, but they,they could, if they can go to
health, happiness and destiny.
com health, happiness and destiny.
com and can, um, for 2.
(31:47):
99, I believe it is, or if95, they can get the book.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you.
Michi J (31:51):
Thank you so much.
that's great to have it written downfor everybody just to grab right quick.
And like you said, that's verycheap and it's a lot cheaper
than going to the doctor.
I tell you that.
So thank you so much.
And audience.
Thank you for listening.
And may you have a weekfilled with blessings.
Hello, everyone.
And welcome to a prisoner's pardonpodcast with me, your host, Michi J.
Have you ever thought about food triggers?
I mean, have you ever thoughtabout how certain foods can
lead you down the wrong path?
We often think about that whenwe think about people, but have
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we actually made that connection?
When we think about food,
Well, a lot of us have gotten smart.
About thinking about thatwhen it comes to people.
Now we do need to startthinking about this when it
comes to food triggers as well.
Do we even know what they are?
Do we stay away from themor just at least limit them?
(01:05):
Well, it's time for us to get smart aboutwhat these foods are and how it can just
lead to addictions and even diseases.
Most importantly, we want to lookat how these foods hinder recovery.
Yes.
Certain foods can hinder.
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Recovery.
On our show today, we're going to begin that process of
just getting smart, and that'swhy I have today a special guest.
His name is Dr.
Richard Ruling.
He is a medical doctor, a teacher, he's aspeaker, he's been all over, he's also an
author and he's written this particularbook I want him to speak about is the book
(01:47):
on health, happiness and destiny that comefrom wise choices and we need to get wise.
So join me in welcoming Dr ruling.
Hello.
Dr Richard Ruhling (01:58):
Hi, thank you so much, Michi J.
Good to be with you.
God bless you and your ministry.
And as I understand it, this isa prison ministry to some extent.
And I just would like to keep that inmind in addressing your main audience.
Because as I mentioned to you, Ihad a friend that went to prison
for 14 years for a stupid mistake,but it shouldn't have been 14.
(02:20):
And it's not happy.
But on the other hand, I remember a littlepoem that two men looked out from prison
bars, One saw mud, the other saw stars.
You know, it's a perspective and, uh, wecan't help, uh, necessarily the things
that come, but our attitudes are importantand, uh, attitude is like altitude,
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uh, higher attitudes is like a higheraltitude to give a better view of life.
And so, uh, we can be thankful.
Uh, it is our circumstances aren't worse.
And, uh, in prison, they do inthis country, they get, , food,
, clothing, , medical care if needed.
Uh, that's not really my prime best thing.
I think medical care is potentiallydangerous because of the drugs, , even,
(03:04):
, having adverse side effects, et cetera.
But, uh,, prisons, uh,, my friendgot, , some education while in
there, learning, , certain thingsthat he is applying now as he's out.
And, , I think that, , takeadvantage of all you can learn.
And, , and, , on that topic, let mejust suggest that, , most prisons
have available, I think, a Bible.
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Scripture is, , a better educationthan almost anything else we
could want, in my opinion.
If looking back on it, I have 25years of training and education,
but I would spit on it comparedto what I'm learning in the Bible.
Most of that is not practical.
I don't need, uh, calculus nearly finishedme in college, as a matter of fact.
(03:44):
But, uh, government, uh, history.
Uh, English literature,uh, who needs that?
You know, at this point, , we needto understand how to live better.
And, uh, uh, basically I see thatin the Bible, God's guidelines.
If we lie, cheat and steal, we'renot happy people, you know, and
basically, , if we live well andare trying to do the best we know
(04:05):
and share good stuff with others.
, we feel good in responsebecause we're giving them value.
If we cheat them, we're going totry to avoid them, uh, et cetera.
Not good, , it's better to, live well.
And, uh, I, I see that God hasgiven us the guidelines for that.
And, uh, and there's a reward for thatbecause just like people in prison
hope to get out early on probation.
This life is probation for us.
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If we live well, there's a hereafterfor us that's better than anything.
Uh, you know, if, if I could be inthe White House, it would still be the
wrong house, as far as I'm concerned,compared to what God wants for us.
Yes.
And that's what God wants for us.
He wants the best for us.
If you listened to our last episode.
Rob talked about how he used.
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God to help him get outof the grip of addiction.
And that's what God wants for us.
He doesn't want us to beimprisoned by addiction.
As you heard Dr.
Ruhlin say just a few moments agoPrescribed drugs can have adverse effects.
One of those affects is a personcan become addicted to the drug.
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I've heard this many times frompeople in recovery that they became
addicted to the drug that theywere taken to help them get well.
And this is why we need todo the holistic approach.
And using a holistic approachis also looking at the
spiritual aspects of things.
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I would like to share an experience by way of an
illustration because, uh, one of myfavorite authors says one example
is worth many precepts or teachings.
Yeah.
And, uh, it was my privilege whiletaking internal medicine to help
in a five day plan to stop smoking.
That was at the University of Arizona.
And, uh, I, I was actually sharingwith, uh, a couple others who did
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speaking as well, uh, each night forfive nights and at the, on the fifth
night, more than a hundred peopleraised their hand and said they had
not smoked in the previous 24 hours.
Um, I had a man in a little townof Southwest City, Missouri, tell
me, uh, actually he was the mayor.
He said, Doc, I've tried manytimes to quit, but this is the
easiest I've ever found it.
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Now, I'm not saying it's easy.
But what I want to share with yourpeople right now can help them with
addictions, plural, not just smoking.
Uh, alcohol can be anaddiction for some people.
Caffeine can be an addiction.
And, uh, in quitting smoking, the idea isto, uh, I think, uh, make a strong choice.
(06:38):
Uh, now, if I said, for example, to agroup of people, uh, I have a friend
who has got lots of money, a billion,and he would give a million dollars to
anybody who quit smoking, I think mostpeople would find a way to get it done.
It's, it's the strength of, of,of determination and conviction.
I have to add here, . That.
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It takes both.
It takes.
Determination and convictionalongside with having help.
You can't do it by yourself.
And the truth is that.
That, um, these addictions do morethan a million dollars worth of damage
to us because life is, is, is tooprecious to give away for, for money.
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Basically, you can't get it back withmedical care, which costs money, etc.
Once it's gone, uh,it's, it's, it's too bad.
I want to share the ingredientsto this five day program.
To stop smoking , it was foundedby an MD doctor, , Wayne McFarland
who, understood how the body reacts.
And, there are, aboutfive simple things.
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Number one, a strong conviction.
I choose not to smoke.
Don't promise anybody because if youbreak , you think, oh, I gave up.
I quit.
I can't do that.
but if we just make amistake and we have one more.
get up and do it again, , the ideais the next smoke is really the habit.
Don't try to taper, , just say this.
I'm quitting, you know, and, and, and werecognize there's going to be a few days.
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Uh, really bad feelings, and,uh, you know, some people think
they're going to climb the wall,but I'm going to help right now
with things that will minimize that.
Because the urge to smoke, or theurge for whatever the addiction , is,
is short lived, and uh, it, it,it, You know, it's kind of like
needing to go to the bathroom.
If you say, no, I can't go right now,uh, you forget about it for a while.
(08:26):
You know, it comes back, of course, andsooner or later you do have to empty your
bladder, but you don't have to, uh, uh,necessarily take the addiction thing.
And so if you have , a strategy of whatto do to stall it off, when you get a
craving, take some lung exercises, deepbreaths, as deep as you can breathe.
Blow all the air out until youcan't blow any more air out.
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The moving of your diaphragm upand down to fill your lungs and
empty them stimulates your adrenalglands on top of the kidneys.
It squirts out a little juicethat makes you feel better.
This is why public speakers, whenthey get nervous, are told, before
you get up, take some deep breaths.
Okay.
And, uh, and you feel betterhaving had some deep breaths.
And the same way withsmoking or any addiction.
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And, uh, stalling it off.
By having a strategy where you say,uh, I'm going to go for a, um, a drink
of water because sometimes throatirritation is a signal for a smoke.
It triggers the body.
I can eat a smoke or, um, thinkof the water that you're going to
drink as a, um, uh, an antibiotic.
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Uh, washing the nicotineout of the kidneys.
Okay, so the quicker you get ridof all the nicotine, the better.
In fact, diet can help you on thatbecause if you load your system with
heavy foods, uh, it's gonna take longerfor the nicotine to get out and those
heavy foods make your brain foggy.
And you can, you know, uh,too much food in the stomach
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means no blood in the brain.
And the, the, uh, uh, frontal lobes ofthe brain have the fine, delicate nerves
where you make your choices and decisions.
And those fine nerves havefine, narrow blood vessels.
And if you, if you eat too much, youjust don't have enough circulation
to, for the willpower to say, hey, no.
, I knew a pathologist, a woman, whohelped in stop smoking programs, and
(10:15):
she said, uh, and understanding thebody well, she said, for quitting
smoking fast for the first day.
Don't eat any food.
A lot of times smokers after ameal that they want to smoke right
away because their nicotine levelis dropping into the bloodstream.
So, don't eat the food, but just,uh, uh, or if you're going to eat,
eat a fruit diet for the first day,have some fruit juices between meal.
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If, if you do anything betweenmeals, have fruit juices.
It's better not to do between meals.
If you, if you can do that and, andjust, uh, eat a, a light diet or, or
nothing at all for the first day, itintensifies your willpower and you'll.
You'll be off to a better start whenyou say no, uh, if you, if you try to
taper, think of this as like cutting,uh, uh, the tail off of a dog, one inch
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at a time, each time you cut that tail,uh, the dog hurts and yelps and so on.
But if you get it one good whack,you know, get rid of it all, uh,
you don't have to hurt cut it again.
It's painful for a few days,but then the dog heals.
Michi J (11:13):
Okay.
Let me, let me, I'm sorry to interrupt.
Sure.
Okay.
First off, we're saying to drink water,don't eat too much because that actually
makes you tired and don't even havethe strength to fight off anything.
Dr Richard Ruhling (11:28):
Right.
Michi J (11:28):
so either fast or have a very light diet something like
fruit juices and stuff like that.
And that's going to help with that.
These are the sort of strategiesalong with deep breathing.
Is that right?
Dr Richard Ruhling (11:41):
Yes.
And the deep breathingcan be aided by exercise.
Going for a short walk out to the mailboxor to the corner or around the block,
uh, encourages deep breathing and thinkof this as a, as a lifestyle change.
Uh, everything you're choosing to dodifferently now is because you want to
quit smoking and all those efforts arestrengthening your willpower to quit.
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So, uh, Make the habit changes.
Don't, after a smoke, uh, sitdown in your favorite chair or
after a meal, sit in your favoritechair where you want to smoke.
Get out and go for awalk instead, or so on.
Call a neighbor.
Have a buddy that, uh, uh, someonethat wants you to quit smoking, not
somebody that smokes with you, okay?
And, and just say, hey, I'm quitting.
(12:24):
Uh, uh, give me a call, uh, once ortwice a day maybe, or, uh, I'll give
you a call when I really have a craving.
Maybe you can talk meout of it, or whatever.
So, uh, those are ideas, uh, for astrategy, uh, along with, uh, and if
you exercise, you'll sleep better.
Uh, so good sleep, uh, helps your nerves.
And, uh, but the huge thing inthis is, uh, a couple of things
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that you really gotta say no to,and that's caffeine and alcohol.
Because caffeine gears your nervesup, and nicotine gears them down.
And together, they keep you in balance.
If you try to quit smoking and,and yeah, what numbs your nerves
is not there, your nerves are goingto go out the roof with caffeine.
And, uh, so, uh, quitting both makesit easier to quit than if you say, Oh,
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I can't quit both at the same time.
I'm just going to quit one.
You're in trouble.
Okay.
But if you will quit both.
And not use any alcohol that affectsthose fine, delicate nerves up
in the brain for your willpower.
You'll be, you'll be betterable to cope with this.
And, uh, and even eating foodlightly, instead of, uh, uh,
uh, pigging out for the week.
Uh, you can, you can tolerate, uh,uh, an absence of food or a, a,
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a low level with, with fruit as adetox agent, you know, type of thing.
Michi J (13:40):
So some of the triggers you're saying is the bad triggers is caffeine.
alcohol and too much food.
Dr Richard Ruhling (13:50):
Yes, that's correct.
Uh, rich food, uh, uh, you know,uh, pies, cakes, uh, um, chips.
Yeah.
I, I remember, uh, I think I met,uh, my medical school did a study
with rats and gave them a choiceof alcohol or water to drink.
And if they were on a gooddiet, they chose water.
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But if they were on a poor diet,They chose alcohol in preference.
If they added coffee and 11 spices.
The alcohol consumption soared veryhigh, and if they changed the diet
back to a bland, simple diet, uh, thealcohol consumption dropped off again.
So a lot of this, uh, we do it toourselves by choices, and so, uh, we
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can make better choices, especiallyduring the time of quitting, which is
really about, uh, uh, this is the fiveday plan, because you can get, um,
most people The great majority willhave the alcohol or the tobacco or the
caffeine out of the system in five days.
And, uh, actually, if you look atyour hand extended, um, the first
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day of the little finger is, is bad.
Second day, a littlehigher, a little worse.
Third day is the peak for most people.
Fourth day, a little better.
And then the thumb really dropped down.
The fifth night they say,Hey, we're going to make it.
And, uh, if you can do that,uh, following the steps and keep
in mind that, uh, whatever itis that you're trying to break.
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Uh, that next, uh, smoke, that nextdrink, uh, uh, is the whole habit.
Okay, don't think, oh, I just wantit once and then I'll quit later.
Uh, you won't quit later if you giveinto this one, probably, you know.
You can get up and try again in thefive day plan we encourage people.
Uh, is a little child learning to walk.
Uh, he falls down a lot oftimes, but he keeps getting up
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and he finally learns to walk.
And we can do that.
Michi J (15:42):
I like how you, you brought in the practical because these are
something that, um, people can understandand really get a hold of and do.
So you talked about a buddy, havinga buddy and a buddy is going to do
exactly what again is to motivate
Dr Richard Ruhling (16:04):
you.
He's sympathetic.
He wants to help.
He can try to encourage youif you call him to say, Hey,
uh, I'm having a rough day.
Uh, in fact, uh, from a Christianperspective, it's good to have a
Christian buddy who, who can praywith you even and say, God help us.
Uh, we all have troubles, trials,difficulties, but, uh, we, we need
your spirit and, uh, give us wisdom.
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We know that we're notgoing to die from this.
Hang on there and, uh, youcan make it, uh, hang tight.
Michi J (16:32):
So, and doctor, in your perspective, because I'm a tap
into your spirit, um, your, becauseyou wrote a lot of books, I've
seen you're very well versed.
So in your opinion, why would, we'regoing to talk about two characters.
We're going to talk about the Lordhimself as well as the enemy, which
we normally know as the devil.
So why would the, why would the enemywant a person to keep being addicted?
Dr Richard Ruhling (17:00):
Well, because, uh, when we, when we, uh, first of all,
they ultimately will ruin the body.
Alcoholics die of cirrhosis orcancer of the esophagus, uh, liver,
whatever, you know, different problems.
Uh, hey, uh, I recently saw anarticle on caffeine and, and, uh,
coffee, how it's good for you.
This is crazy and stupid becausethey haven't seen it from my
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perspective as a physician.
There are a dozen things that caffeine orcoffee can do to you, uh, as soft drinks
that, uh, are bad starting at the top.
I'll just give you a quick review.
Um, uh, people, uh, by the way,when they try to quit coffee or, uh,
caffeine, many of them get a headache.
And the drug companies put caffeinein Anacin or, uh, Excedrin.
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Uh, Excedrin is justTylenol plus caffeine.
Anacin is just aspirin plus caffeine.
Uh, caffeine, and so when peoplehave a withdrawal headache, They
take anacin or excedrin and theyfeel, oh, that's a great medicine.
Well, but they're still addicted then.
If they would just quit it all and don'tuse anacin or excedrin, uh, they can
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take a plain aspirin or plain Tylenol,take a couple of them, or something
else from your doctor if you wish,but generally I'm, I'm trying to help
people avoid doctors because it's comeback, come back, take this drug, take
that, and sooner or later they're on abunch of, a bag of pills and, and you
don't know which pill is causing what.
You know, with such symptoms,adverse drug reactions.
Go ahead.
Michi J (18:27):
So the enemy wants you to do this because one, it's going to
shorten your life, your life, and youwon't be able to do productive things.
Because this, this addiction,this bad habit is going to keep
forcing his hand and interrupt.
Dr Richard Ruhling (18:47):
It's, it's elusive.
Uh, we think we can do whateverwe want, but, uh, the more we do
those things, the less we feellike doing, uh, the good things.
Exactly.
So, uh, I would just say, and speakingof the caffeine again, going from
the top of the head down, headaches,trouble sleeping, Trouble with nerves.
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I've had, uh, I wish I had a 10 billnow for everybody that wanted something
for their nerves, a tranquilizer,you know, because really I would ask
them how much coffee do you think?
Well, quite a bit, you know,so it's a problem that way.
And, uh, uh, the, the, you've seenpictures with little kids with a,
uh, uh, an ugly looking upper lip.
(19:29):
They have hair, hair lip or cleft palatewhere they, even their words are sounding
a little funny, uh, an appeal for surgery.
Well, the problem with those, uh,little kids is that their mother
was drinking too much caffeine inthe first trimester of pregnancy.
That has been linked to excessivecaffeine intake, uh, during
pregnancy, coffee, et cetera.
(19:49):
And so, uh, rather than tell people, paya thousand dollars for surgery, just, hey,
quit, uh, quit the, uh, drinking of thatduring pregnancy and quit it all the time.
It's not good for us.
Uh, I took a year of cardiology and inmy training, uh, the coronary care unit.
Did not allow coffee or caffeine becausein the context of a, of a heart attack.
(20:12):
It could trigger a fatal arrhythmia.
It lowers the threshold forventricular fibrillation, which
is a fatal arrhythmia, especiallyin the context of a heart attack.
So
Michi J (20:22):
there we go with that word trigger.
So it's triggering it.
So that caffeine is triggering.
We need some good triggers.
So the good triggers would bewater, exercise, good sleep.
Have a nice sleep.
Dr Richard Ruhling (20:38):
Actually, they're, they're, in a sense,
they all help the body.
I don't think of them as triggers,per se, like, uh, the negatives.
Negatives trigger and shoot you dead.
But, uh, I think of, uh, all of thoseas, if you're really feeling strong
and well and calm, who needs a, a,a drink of this or a smoke of that?
It's when we get to feeling bad that wethink this is going to help us and it's
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only because of the withdrawal symptomif we didn't have withdrawal symptoms,
we wouldn't need those things at all.
I don't, I'm 83 and I'm in great healthbecause I've done it right all my life.
I have never smoked a single cigaretteand I've never had a drink of alcohol.
Michi J (21:16):
Yeah, I was the reason why I say triggers is because,
you know, it can be good or bad.
And.
It's going to lead to something else.
That's what I'm saying.
What's going to motivate you andyou, uh, and it helps me to think of.
Just flipping it and make lookingand finding the good triggers because
I need to be triggered in the rightdirection So I need to find that's
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why I'm thinking of it like that tohelp because it can not just one thing
I'll just do this and then that's it.
But I look at it.
It's going to give me the momentum toGo down the right path versus going the
wrong way what these other triggers thenegative ones would do So yeah, that's
(22:02):
why I was thinking about triggers.
So we talked about water eating too muchGoing on to a lighter diet exercises
fruit juices a good buddy, and also,um, just having a companion that's, you
know, have Christian values that canpray for you and direct you toward God.
Dr Richard Ruhling (22:24):
I would like to talk more about that, but one last
natural remedy that may be helpfulis a, if people had in their medicine
cupboard, most of it is junk and thingsI wouldn't want, but Charcoal powder,
uh, capsules, uh, tablets, whatever canbe very helpful in the emergency room.
When people overdose, theycame in maybe even comatose.
(22:45):
We would pump their stomach.
And even put in charcoal afterwards, ifthey're still breathing and so on, uh,
when they come in, they're likely tosurvive, uh, with treatment to pump their
stomach and, and use charcoal becausecharcoal, one capsule has the surface
area microscopically of a football field.
It, uh, it will absorb toxinsand poisons and, uh, I have
(23:10):
used it for, uh, snake bites.
Uh, you know, put a little poulticeor compress over the ankle where
the, where the bite was, et cetera.
And it will draw, uh, uh, the poisonand give some internally, uh, it, it
absorbs toxin and poisons in the body.
It's not a drug.
Uh, it has no bad side effects,except maybe you might get
a little bit constipated.
Or something, but this is,uh, it's, it's not a chemical.
(23:32):
Okay.
It's just a, uh, um, andthey can buy it cheaply.
It's not like a drug where you have topay a lot of money for it, but have it
in the medicine cupboard for when youmight think you have reacted badly.
Sometimes people, uh, have gas.
You know, and this is a good cure,a natural remedy for gas as well.
And so our indigestion,uh, it's excellent.
(23:53):
So I just want to throw that out.
And now going to the, uh,comment about, uh, God.
Um, a lot of people today,uh, think that God is out.
God is dead.
Where is he?
Why?
Why is he allowing somuch trouble in the world?
Well, think about it.
God cannot be a universal bellboy toanswer everybody's prayer right now.
Okay.
(24:13):
Uh, he does answer prayer.
Sometimes it's, uh, it's, uh,Occasionally it might be right now and
we've all maybe you can talk to peopleand you'll find some that had had an
experience like, wow, that's amazing.
That was a miracle.
I remember.
Hey, in fact, right now, I can tellyou within the past week, Robert F.
(24:34):
Kennedy Jr, who was running for president.
Now he's with Trump.
He's he tells his journey to God.
He actually became an addictfor 14 years to heroin.
And he said, it's a terriblething, you become a liar, etc.
But, um, he told how he cameacross a book called Synchronicity
(24:57):
by Carl Jung, a psychiatrist.
And ordinarily, I don't like, Psychiatry,uh, as a, as a group of people,
psychiatrists have been less able to stopsmoking than other medical specialists
because they, they reason it out and theyend up the reasons with, well, I just
have another smoke, I guess, you know,it's, it's a, it's an atheistic view,
(25:17):
but this Carl, uh, young, uh, spelledJ U N G, uh, saw if out of many years
of experience, he could not prove God.
But he said people with a faith inGod did better with their problems
and their addictions and so on.
They, uh, they, uh, uh, relapsed better.
(25:38):
They lived well longer, et cetera.
And I can say, uh, it's to me, the wordGod is like starting a crossword puzzle
with the right word in the beginning.
If you have God in the beginning, thenit fits in with the different words,
hog and dog and things like that.
Uh, it's, uh, you know, in life,uh, God, it'll go better with you.
If you look to God for help, I, uh, hewill, he doesn't always do what we want
(26:01):
him to do, but he, uh, he can, uh, workit out so that things do work for good.
And trusting his word in theBible is, is an important key.
, Michi J (26:09):
would you say the charcoal powder capsules, they're like a detox?
Dr Richard Ruhling (26:15):
They help the detox process.
They'll help you get the get the whateverit is If it's nicotine or caffeine or some
poison in your system, they absorb it.
So it goes out in your bowelmovement, you know Uh, so it'll
Michi J (26:28):
make it faster detox.
Yes,
Dr Richard Ruhling (26:30):
exactly.
That's right.
Okay.
Michi J (26:32):
All right, so Where do where could we get those from?
Dr Richard Ruhling (26:36):
Uh, any drugstore should have them, uh, sadly, uh,
because they tend to turn drug, uh,tests negative, uh, sometimes, uh, uh,
governments don't want, the charcoalto be available, they want to know your,
if you're doing it, they want to find itin your blood, but it, it can help get
it out of your system, and I would saylook for it and keep it in your medicine
(26:57):
cupboard and use it when you don'tfeel so well, and give it a, uh, uh, 24
hours, you'll feel, be feeling better.
Michi J (27:03):
So, um, about how much does it cost?
Do you know, generally?
Dr Richard Ruhling (27:07):
Uh, probably under 10.
Michi J (27:09):
Really that cheap?
Dr Richard Ruhling (27:11):
It's not a drug.
It's a natural product.
Uh, it might be more.
I don't know.
I, I haven't, truthfully,haven't bought any recently.
Uh, I'm living well and, and, uh,what I have is, is lasting well, but
activated charcoal is, is activatedmeans that it will be more active in
this process than just plain charcoal.
Michi J (27:30):
Okay.
Never thought about it.
Cause anytime we talk about charcoal,I'm thinking about barbecues.
Now we're going to belooking at it different.
That's that makes a lot of sense.
So , I like how , we're looking atit holistically along with, praying.
And, , my last episode talkedabout how addiction is.
(27:51):
Wrestling.
It's a wrestling match, but this hasgiven us more to work with and not just
telling people, Oh, just pray and do that
. Dr Richard Ruhling: I just wanted to say, uh, our, our faith is
strengthened by reading the scripture
it's not as easy reading, but Godknows the end from the beginning,
, in closing, uh, say that, uh, it was myprivilege to attend a leadership training
(28:14):
institute for Campus Crusade for Christ.
And they had what they callthe four spiritual laws.
And, uh, the first one is that God lovesus and has a wonderful plan for our life.
Thank you.
And the second law is that man is sinful,separated from God, and we really can't
know his best for us in our fallen state.
But the third law is that Christ cameto bridge the gap between God and man.
(28:38):
He showed us a better life.
It's not impossible.
It's not easy, of course, butwe can do the right things.
His guidelines are for our best good.
And the fourth Uh, law is that wehave to personally receive Christ.
It's not just a matterof knowing the good.
We have to say, God, I'm, I'm makingthis commitment to you as, as Robert F.
(28:58):
Kennedy, uh, said in his journey towardGod, he was reading Carl Young and
Young said, fake it till you make it.
In other words, do the things, gothrough the steps, say, I'm going
to do this and, uh, God will bewith you in that and you'll, uh,
gain somehow one way or the other.
Uh, in fact, uh, Kennedy said that hehad this amazing experience shortly
after one of his readings and so on.
(29:19):
He was playing volleyball and, uh, uh,the ball was hit very high, came down on
a post And bounced toward the fence andhe, he, uh, as the ball hit the post, he
doesn't know why he didn't figure it out.
But he said that ball is goingto get run over by a Mac truck.
Why in the world would he saythat it bounced on the fence?
(29:41):
And went toward, uh, out of thevolleyball court toward the, uh,
down the hill toward the road.
And would you believe, a Mack truckran over that ball and popped it.
And, uh, so, and he, Kennedyfigured out that that was God.
Okay, God knew his thoughts,uh, or gave him that thing.
It was a, we all had coincidenceswhere, hey, could that be God doing it?
(30:03):
Give God the credit.
And go with it.
I mean, just live the best you can.
And his word, the Bible, is thebest way to really find it out.
I would say for people thataren't Christians, start
with the book of John, maybe.
It's a relational type of thing.
In John, first chapter, John the Baptistannounced, uh, Christ as the lamb of God.
(30:25):
He, the lamb died for our sins.
Okay.
He, in Isaiah 53, the Jews don't getit, but in their book of Isaiah 53,
Christ was the lamb slain to reconcileus to God, to see that God loves us
and he pays for our sins, et cetera.
And we can forget them and live well withhim, with his help and by his spirit.
So I thank you for letting me,uh, share this opportunity.
(30:48):
Well, thank you for talking to us as a medical doctor and also letting
us really get a chance to, , hear howthis holistic approach of first, you
know, using water, not eating too much,having a light diet, fruit juices,
Having exercise, sleep, all thesebasic things that we should be doing
(31:11):
anyway, and we're seeing now if we don'tdo these things, how it can lead to
addictions and ultimately to diseases.
What in the last thing youwant to say to the audience?
Um, thank you so much,first of all, for coming.
Dr Richard Ruhling (31:26):
Well, you're welcome.
And the point is that the book youmentioned, uh, health, happiness
and destiny has a lot in it andthey can get it online for cheap.
Okay.
It's a digital copy, but they,they could, if they can go to
health, happiness and destiny.
com health, happiness and destiny.
com and can, um, for 2.
(31:47):
99, I believe it is, or if95, they can get the book.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you.
Michi J (31:51):
Thank you so much.
that's great to have it written downfor everybody just to grab right quick.
And like you said, that's verycheap and it's a lot cheaper
than going to the doctor.
I tell you that.
So thank you so much.
And audience.
Thank you for listening.
And may you have a weekfilled with blessings.
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