October 30, 2024 • 33 mins
Creating timelines might sound like a niche hobby, but for me, Dakota, it's a thrilling journey through the fabric of fictional universes. While Anthony is off enjoying some family time in Tennessee, I've taken the liberty of sharing my deep-seated passion for timelines, particularly those sprawling across the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Over the years, this obsession with chronology has transformed my YouTube channel, Geekritique, into a community-driven haven for timeline enthusiasts, thanks largely to early efforts with my wife and the incredible support from our fans.
From the ambitious worlds of Avatar: The Last Airbender to the mesmerizing depth of James Cameron's Avatar, I'm constantly captivated by the art of weaving intricate timelines. This episode uncovers the successes and challenges of crafting these narratives, touching on lesser-known gems like My Neighbor Totoro and the Forgotten Realms sparked by Honor Among Thieves from D&D. Insights from the One Piece live-action series, the dynamic Spider-Verse films, and input from Frozen super fans highlight the diverse worlds I'm excited to map out, offering listeners a taste of the lore within these celebrated stories.
The complexities of the Marvel and Star Wars timelines take center stage, revealing the delicate balance of integrating TV series like Cloak and Dagger into the larger MCU fabric. Join me as I ponder potential future projects, including an Alien timeline focused on the Weyland-Yutani Corporation, while navigating the uncertain waters of Marvel's TV universe. Together, let's explore Project Geekology's upcoming plans and continue our vibrant discussions, promising you a front-row seat to the timeless stories that captivate our imaginations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How's it going?
Guys and geeks, welcome toProject Geekology.
I'm one of your hosts, dakota,and unfortunately I'm your only
host today.
Anthony is away.
He's visiting family inTennessee for the week and he
left me here by myself.
So I have a microphone, I havea platform and I'm going to use
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it.
It's sad, but you're going tohave to stick with just me.
So this is a very specialepisode.
It's not going to be like anumbered episode I think we're
on 98 or 99 or almost at ahundred episodes but this won't
be a numbered episode becauseAnthony isn't here.
So it's going to be a mini-sodewhere you know we get to talk
about whatever we want andusually Anthony's the one doing
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all those.
I think, actually, anthony hasdone all the mini-sodes up until
this point, but today I am inthe limelight, so I get to do
whatever I want, and I'vedecided to talk about one of my
favorite things ever, which istimelines.
For those of you who only knowme from the Project Geekology
podcast, hi, I make timelinesNot necessarily for a living,
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but just as a hobby.
I make like really really big,really nice, well orchestrated
at least I think so and well puttogether.
You know timeline projects forYouTube and they take me a very
long time to produce.
I put a lot of time and effortinto them, I put a lot of
research into them and today I'mgoing to be breaking down some
of that behind the scenes infoand talk about some of the
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projects that I've had in thepast, some of the products I
have in the future.
Yeah, I've asked on Twitterwhether people have any
questions for me in regards totimeline content for any of the
timelines that I've put together, and I'm not surprised.
Most of the questions are aboutthe MCU, which has been my most
I guess, profound that's notthe right word.
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It's probably my greatestproject, even though I don't
necessarily think it's my best.
It's what most of my fans overon YouTube on my channel Geek
Critique know me for channelGeek Critique know me for, and
I'm also going to be sendingpeople from Geek Critique to the
podcast.
A little bit of cross promotionhere.
Hi, if you are from GeekCritique and you've never
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listened to Project Geekology,usually there's another guy on
here and we usually just tacklea single film or a TV show or a
video game, a book, one title,an episode really, and we try to
break it down, we give it areview, we talk about what works
and what doesn't work, and then, you know, we also, in each
episode, try to catch up on whatwe've been up to, both
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creatively and in our day to daylives.
And it's a chance for Anthonyand I, you know, who have been
friends for almost 30 years atthis point, almost three decades
it gives us a chance to justkeep in contact with each other
because we live in other sidesof the country, and it's a fun
project.
It's a it's project ecologybasically, yeah, I'm, I'm really
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happy with it.
But so let's talk a little bitabout some of the timeline
projects that I have beeninvolved with going over to my
YouTube channel, becausesometimes I forget how many
timelines I've actually done.
I'm not going to go throughevery single thing, but I'm
going to talk about some of thebigger ones that I've tackled
over the years.
Obviously, I want to start outwith the Marvel Cinematic
Universe timeline.
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It is what put me on the map.
And Geek Critique as a YouTubechannel didn't always start as a
timeline channel.
It kind of just evolved intothat.
My wife and I actually startedGeek Critique.
What is it?
Eight years ago, nine years agonow.
It was early in our marriageand she has since, you know,
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decided to take up teaching as aprofession and it's kind of how
do I put it they don't likewhen you have a social media
presence and also be a teacher,because you know parents find
your stuff and it just for thesake of keeping her career path
on track, while you know she'sstill trying to get a tenured
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position.
She's stayed away from not onlythe channel but like a public
social online appearance just ingeneral, and I do miss having
my wife on the channel with me.
But in the meantime, in theyears that have elapsed since
then, I've, you know, had a lotmore time to dive into larger
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projects, which I find is veryfulfilling.
Before we were doing a lot ofreviews and reactionary content,
which was fun and it was easy.
I could produce, you know, twovideos a day if I wanted to.
But now I get to take my timeand study and, you know, produce
something that's really cool.
So the MCU timeline I've beendoing that even before.
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I've been studying the MCUtimeline for about a decade now,
even back in like 2014, 2015,.
When I started my Geek Critiqueblog, I was involved with
mapping the MCU timeline and Ialmost don't want to go back to
those old blog entries because Ifeel like I've grown so much as
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a timeline guy I guess someonewho is really into fictional
chronology and histories that Ifeel like I've just grown so
much more and I probably made acouple of mistakes in that
timeline anyway.
But yeah, so I've made probablyI think I've made seven
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distinct MCU timelines sincethen which have pretty much all
blown up on YouTube and it'sbecome the thing that I'm most
known for and it's not reallylike it's blowing up, but none
of my videos have ever cracked amillion views or anything like
that.
But a lot of you do hold mywork in some esteem and I'm
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really really grateful for that.
I know it's not perfect.
I've made plenty of mistakeswhen it comes to the MCU
timeline in the past and I'llprobably make more as I go.
It's something that I'm, or Ihave been, very passionate about
and I'm probably going to talka little bit more about like
where I'm at with the MCUtimeline going forward.
But I did a going intoindividual titles which a lot of
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you really enjoyed, and Ihaven't really done that in a
little over a year now.
Probably the last one that Idid let me look is probably oh,
I did one for Guardians of theGalaxy, volume 3.
I did one for Secret Invasionand I did one for Quantumania.
Oh, and I did one for theMarvels.
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Okay, so I've done quite a few.
That was 11 months ago, theMarvels.
I do miss it.
But I'm also really happy tohave taken a large break away
from the MCU timeline.
I haven't even caught up onmost of the stuff that's been
popping up recently.
Actually there hasn't been alot of stuff, you know, popping
up recently.
Actually there hasn't been alot of stuff.
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I think I'm pretty much justbehind on a couple stuff like,
uh, I am grew, season two and uh, agatha, all along.
Um, I'm not really intosupernatural stuff anyway.
So I I don't even know if I'mgonna like that or if I'll ever,
you know, really give it achance.
But for the sake of, you know,working on a mcu timeline, I
guess I have to.
Um, and I have promised that anew MCU timeline is coming out.
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So I did get that question.
John Taylor, you asked when willthe new MCU timeline video be
out?
And I have previously mentionedthat I wanted it to come out
mid February, specificallyaround the Captain America Brave
New World movie.
I think it is a goodopportunity for me to release a
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big MCU timeline during the weekor weekend or just in the
periphery of a big Marvelrelease.
And I'm kind of biting mytongue a little bit on that
because I'm also working onanother timeline in the interim.
That's been taking a lot of mytime, unfortunately.
So I still want to get thatvideo out by February with
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Captain America Brave New World.
But I'm starting to thinkthere's a possibility that I
might have to wait untilwhenever Thunderbolts comes out
and I might choose to do thatstrictly, because that is the
end of phase five, supposedly,and I think that that would be a
nice way to cap off that phasewith a completely new and fresh
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timeline into phase six and, youknow, heading into the secret
wars era of the MCU.
But again, I'm not really.
I'm really happy that I've takena break from the MCU, just
because it was a lot and it wasclearly getting very messy.
The fact that they haven't beenable to release most of the
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stuff in the order or the timeframe that they've chosen to do
so is kind of proof that youknow they have bit off way more
than they can chew.
So let me talk a little bitabout some of the other
timelines that I've done.
I think in early 2019, I'mgoing back through my videos now
I made a yes, I made a DCEUchronological timeline.
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I called it my version onetimeline.
I have not ever made a versiontwo of this and that was five
years ago.
I think it was early January of2019.
And I really had fun with that.
I think that was a very goodvideo at the time and I would
love to make a completed dc,dceu chronological timeline,
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especially now that it's acompleted universe.
I think that that would be sucha a fun thing to do.
It's just timing is very, verydifficult and uh yeah.
So, as much as I respect whatthey were able to do with the
DCEU, I think the last coupleoutings there were really weak
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and it turned me off from doingit.
I haven't even seen Aquaman 2yet.
I saw the Flash.
It wasn't bad, it wasn't great,it was just mid, so a lot of
that was happening with the DCEU, and I never saw Blue Beetle
either.
My desire to dive back in andcomplete that version 2 timeline
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for the DCEU has waned quite abit, so I do still want to do
that, especially with the newDCEU coming out, though that too
I'm I'm really apprehensiveabout, because I really don't
like that.
It's a soft reboot.
They're they're using umpeacemaker season two and
they're going to reiterateevents that happened in the past
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, but events that didn't happenin the past aren't reiterated.
They have new actors for things, but they have old actors
playing the same roles.
It's going to be reallyconfusing for people trying to
keep up who aren't, you know,big superhero fans, and it's
going to be confusing for thoseof us who are, because what are
they doing over there?
I guess we'll see soon enoughand that was actually one of the
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questions that I received WillI be making another DC timeline
anytime soon?
Darren Atkins asked me are youworking on a new DC timeline
Currently?
No, it's definitely in the backburner.
It's something I want to do.
It's a stretch goal, but I dohave a lot going on right now in
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my actual day-to-day life,which is also probably why I
don't think I'm going to be ableto get the MCU timeline out by
February, which you know to someof you like why it's just a
video, just release it, recordit.
It's a lot more work than youthink it is.
But I'm also like I have a lotgoing on in my actual day-to-day
life.
I'm working on a big movecoming up, I'm building property
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, or I'm building a, basically asmall house on my in-laws
property and it's been a lot ofwork and money and time
commitment just on that and,yeah, it's been taking a lot of
my attention away from what Ilove doing, which is working on
these projects.
So even the project that I'mworking on right now, the Avatar
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the Last Airbender timeline isreally it's dragging out, and I
really do apologize for those ofyou who don't care about Avatar
the Last Airbender, but it's a.
It's something that I'm reallyreally enjoying studying and
getting into, because this issuch an incredible history that
they've been able to weave.
I don't think I've everexperienced a fictional timeline
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quite as elaborate and uniqueas the Avatar timeline, because
every era of the Avatar iscompletely fleshed out, or at
least the eras that we knowabout are almost completely
fleshed out.
The eras that we know aboutspan thousands to hundreds of
years, and I'm so deep into thatrabbit hole right now.
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I've got, like I think likeover 50,000 words of notes
written for the Avatar, the lastairbender universe, the Avatar
legends universe, the Avatarverse, whatever you want to call
it and I haven't even gotteninto like doing notes for the
corera, the Legend of Korraseries.
So I still have a lot of workon that and that's going to be
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taking up the bulk of my timefor the rest of the year.
Outside of, you know, theupcoming move that I hope to
achieve soon, let's talk aboutsome of the recent timeline
content that isn't specificallyMCU or DCU related.
I really enjoyed making and youknow, speaking of Avatar, I
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really enjoyed making a Avatarlike a James Cameron's Avatar
timeline a series of videos.
Actually I did a couple ofvideos on the Avatar World of
Pandora timeline a couple yearsago, basically when the Way of
Water came out, and that washuge for my channel I think yeah
, I'm looking at it now it hasover 300,000 views.
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For me, who averages, you know,between two and two and 10,000
views per video like this was.
This was rent for me.
Like I never get videos likethis, so it was.
It was such a huge thing for me.
Like I never get videos likethis, so it was.
It was such a a huge thing forme and I really enjoyed, um, the
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exploring the history of thatthere.
Uh, and it's it's amazing to methat both avatar franchises
both you know, james Cameron'savatar and the last airbender
franchise both have such uhamazing grips on their lore and
history.
And, yeah, I had a good timemaking that video.
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A little video that I made thatvery few people actually ever
got around to watching.
I made a my Neighbor Totorotimeline video.
It's not worded as a timelinevideo because, like, how do you
make a timeline video out of myNeighbor Totoro?
But I, I did a little diggingin that one and I found out, you
know, based on in-film clues,that the initial order of events
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are in.
They were shifted around fornarrative purposes but, like the
, the dates are wrong because ofthat inside the film and it's
it's kind of cool.
So that was a fun video that Iwas able to make.
Um, another really fun videothat nobody watched I think it
has, yeah, it's 1500 views uh,the grand history of honor among
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thieves, a dnd timeline.
This movie is so good and Idived deep into all of the
tie-in material that is specificto Honor Among Thieves and I
even got into D&D from it.
I'm now in the midst of a D&Dcampaign, all because of this
movie and because of the love ofmaking this timeline.
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I loved learning about theForgotten Realms, shared
universe and shared history.
Forgotten Realms, shareduniverse and shared history.
There's a fantastic timelinebook for the Forgotten Realms,
which is a play setting withinDungeons and Dragons called the
Grand History of the Realms, andthat's why I named the title of
my video the Grand History ofHonor Among Thieves.
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It was just a little homage andprobably two people got it,
including the author of the book, which you know he actually
commented on that.
So that was.
That was pretty cool.
I made a one piece live actiontimeline.
That was a lot of fun.
Again, a video nobody watched.
That was a very frustrating onefor me, strictly because I put
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so much love and attention intothat and, um, I discovered
things that I think couldactually, you know, indicate
what time period the actualmanga and anime are supposed to
be taking place and because weknow the author of one piece was
so involved in the creation ofthe live action netflix series.
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There are dates that are acouple decades to a hundred
years after the dates that arefeatured in the manga.
But the dates that are featuredin the manga don't specifically
indicate when the present dayis within the manga, so I posit
new information from thelive-action One Piece series
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that basically gives new life towhat happens and when it
happens in the actual manga,which the live-action One Piece
is based off of, not the anime.
A video that did get a littlebit of traction was my
Spider-Verse timeline.
I discovered basically I'mprobably not the first to
discover it, but I had a reallyfun time making that because I
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explored the use of the slidingtimeline within the Spider-Verse
films.
We see in one film it's veryclearly, I think, 2018.
And in the second film it'sclearly 2023.
So how can that possibly bewhen only I think it was 18
months are supposed to havepassed?
Only I think it was 18 monthsare supposed to have passed?
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It doesn't make any senseunless you start thinking about
the Spider-Verse timeline assomething that happens on a
sliding timeline, which is whatthe Marvel Comics actually use,
and because it's so comic heavyin terms of its stylistic
approach, I think that thatholds some merit.
So that was a really cool video.
Had a lot of fun with that Onevideo that got decent views for
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what it is but not nearly asmany as it deserved is my Frozen
timeline.
I know Frozen is a hugefranchise, but I think the
franchise isn't specificallyinterested in the geekier side
of lore, which is timelines andhistory.
But I did.
I I think, uh, it's aphenomenal timeline.
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Um, I worked heavily with uhsuper fans of frozen like
there's a whole uh arendellearchives thing on discord.
That is basically just likepeople who have studied frozen
frame by frame and they've beendoing so for years, and they
loved my timeline.
I worked with them in creatingit and making sure I got all the
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details right.
That was such a cool projectand I was able to get another
creator, modern Mouse, to helpme bring the story of this
history to life, so that was acool one.
A video that actually did doreally well this year was my
MonsterVerse timeline.
It's my first hour plustimeline video and I don't think
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it's going to be my last,because, seeing how my Avatar,
the Last Airbender video isshaping up, as well as my goals
for my MCU timeline coming upversion 8, I think that those
videos are going to be hour plusas well.
So if you want to get an ideaof what I have working on with
both the MCU and Avatar, theLast Airbender, I highly
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recommend checking out myMonsterVerse timeline.
It is probably my best singlevideo to date.
I don't know, actually, I don'tknow about that.
I still hold some of my othersa little higher in terms of how
much I sentimentally value them,but I think it's a really
fantastic video and I'm reallyhappy with the reception with
that.
Let's answer some questionsbefore we continue going through
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all of it.
Actually, you know what?
No, let's just talk about theStar Wars Time Saber.
I spent a couple months of thisyear working on a visual
timeline not necessarily a videotimeline of the Star Wars
universe.
There's just so much Star Warsout there from novels, comics,
short stories, manga, videogames, comic books, junior
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novels, middle grade novels,movies, tv shows there's so much
Star Wars, um, and there'sessentially new Star Wars being
released every week, um, so Icouldn't possibly, you know,
make a timeline under 10 hoursand that's just way too much
work for where I'm at right now.
And so, yeah, I made a visualStar Wars timeline.
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Uh, it's called the Star Warstime saber, it's, uh, it's.
You just got to check out myYouTube channel it's linked in
the description to see exactlyhow I made that happen, made
that a reality.
Let's answer some morequestions.
Chrono Keeper asks when are wegetting more Dakota notes?
And he also asks when are wegetting the 616 Marvel Comics
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timeline?
You can totally read thousandsof comics, right, wow?
The second question I don'thave plans and I often joke
online like I'm not going to bemaking this timeline or that
timeline, but this is one whereI just don't think that I have
it in me, like I just knowing mywork ethic, knowing how much
time in the day I have, thiswould take me years, years to
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accomplish and I don't think Icould possibly do that, even
though it would be a pipe dream.
If I'm ever not working aneight hour, if I'm ever not
working a 40 hour constructionjob every week, then I might
consider it.
I do have notes on the comicbooks that I do read, but, yeah.
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So Chrono Keeper mentions theDakota notes.
Uh, so I think he's talkingabout the uh notes that I
release on my Patreon, uh Googledrive.
Basically it's called uh GeekCritique Timelines and I've
released I think it's got to bea little over 100 different
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notes for different titles atthis point, but soon.
Chrono Keeper, I'm going to bereleasing most of my Avatar
stuff very soon and I have a bitmore of the Star Wars notes
that I've taken over the years,including the recent book
Temptation of the Force, which Ijust finished and it's so, so
good.
Yeah, so I'll be releasingthose for my Patreon followers
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and you can find links to thatin any of my YouTube videos.
I'm not going to bog down withthat, but yeah, so I take heavy,
heavy notes for pretty mucheverything that I ever plan to
make timeline content on oranything that I want to keep
track of, and when I can, whenit's neat enough, I try to
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release it online as a resourcefor people who oh, in chapter
seven of this book it says hewas gone for three months or
whatever you know, and you cankind of use that as a tool to
explore these timelines on yourown.
And I have those notes for myFrozen stuff.
I had a lot of notes for myMonsterVerse stuff and all
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that's available to my Patreonpeoples.
The Echo Light Are there anytimelines that haven't been
requested much that you'd loveto make Alternatively, or
additionally, are theretimelines that have been
requested much that you justreally don't want to make.
Yes and yes, off the top of myhead.
I can't really think too muchabout that, just because there's
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only so much stuff I can manageat one time.
But projects that I would loveto do I would love to do an
alien project.
I know that you, echoliteBlacklight, are big into the
alien franchise and I, you knowI'd probably tap your vast
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knowledge if I ever wanted to doa history of that, so that
would be kind of cool.
I'd wanted to do a history ofthat, so that would be kind of
cool.
I'd love to do an alientimeline, but strictly from a
point of view of theWeyland-Yutani Corporation.
So an outsider from thatcorporation looking into the
events of this history, I thinkwould be a fascinating idea for
a timeline video or historical.
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Additionally, are theretimelines that have been
requested that you just don'treally want to make?
Yeah, all the time I'm givenrequests for stuff.
I think jokingly just becauseI'm the timeline guy, but I have
no interest in anythingsupernatural.
I've mentioned no horror stuff,no gore or anything like that.
I like to geek out.
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I don't like beinguncomfortable when I do so.
I guess Alien is pretty much asscary as I like.
But yeah, so there we go.
A couple more questions.
Ahmad, I hope I pronounced thatcorrectly.
You know I've been friends withyou for, you know, forever
online.
I don't think I've everactually said your name out loud
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.
You said one.
I think I've ever actually saidyour name out loud.
You said dependent referencesto their show and your placement
of the first season initiallyseemed pretty solid and
justified.
You asked actually quite a fewquestions and I'm going to try
to get to all of them.
Yeah, I'm going to be honest,ahmad.
I haven't watched Runaway Season3 or Cloak and Dagger in five
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or six years at this point,whenever that released, and I
really haven't spent any time inthe Marvel TV universe you know
, pre WandaVision in a very longtime and I've gotten to the
point where I'm I'm not supercertain about why I chose
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certain things at the time thatI did, and I'm getting to the
point where I'm almost I don'tplan on going back to these
shows anytime soon for mytimelines, even though I plan to
include them.
So at this point I'm kind ofprobably just going to work
alongside the MCU Wiki, makesure that I have their approval
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in terms of, like, whatplacements you know work with my
timeline and their timeline.
Yeah, I think I've just kind ofgiven up on Marvel ever
choosing to canonize any of thatlike hard canon.
I don't mean to say that Idon't think it's canon, but I
don't think Marvel's ever goingto reference these shows ever
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again outside of Daredevil andthose films.
But Cloak Dagger, I remember,had strong connections to Luke
Cage, the first and secondseasons of that.
So that's why I had CloakDagger earlier on the timeline
as opposed to Runaways and thatjust kind of translated into
something that didn't reallywork on a timeline when they
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crossed over.
But yeah, I'll give that somethought.
I'm not entirely sure if I wantto use the MCU timeline stuff
going forward, but it's apossibility.
Will every piece of mediaconnected through Spider-Verse
be included in your next bigtimeline?
I don't even know.
I don't even want to thinkabout all of that.
I don't think so.
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I think it's just stuff that isspecifically crossing over with
the MCU.
Number three you ask this ismore subjective but given the
recent connections, what partsof Marvel TV do you for now
consider to be concretely canon?
Oh, I was just talking aboutthat.
Yeah, daredevil and probablythe Defenders, because I don't
see how you can do Daredevilwithout the Defenders series.
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Luke Cage, iron Fist, jessicaJones I don't know how they're
going to treat that, especiallyIron Fist, which was pretty
universally maligned, eventhough I kind of liked it.
I could maybe see Agents ofSHIELD being introduced or
referenced in some capacity, butthat's about as deep of a cut
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as I think Marvel Studios willever make, specifically because
they don't even have time torelease new content for the
heroes that they are alreadyusing.
When are we going to see DoctorStrange again?
When are we going to see MoonKnight again?
When are we going to see drstrange again?
When are we going to see moonknight again?
When are we going to see shehulk again?
They have, they have plans, I'msure, but we won't see them for
four years, five years, whoknows it's.
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There's so much stuff that theyhave that they cannot manage
that.
I have no, no doubt thatthey'll.
You know, just never talk aboutanything within the marvel tv
realm outside of, maybe, agentsof shield, ever again.
If that, um, and you ask if Ihave any dc related plans for
the future, I'm gonna keep anose, a close eye on the dcu.
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Um, I know a lot of us are uh,just because it's it's fresh
territory, but we'll see.
We'll see where that goes.
Pivot asks about thespider-verse movies.
Are you still confident, andconfident on it really being a
sliding timeline?
If so, do you think thatthey'll keep this model for
beyond the spider-verse?
I think they will.
I mean, am I confident?
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I only have two films to workwith here, but it seems to me
that this was an intentionalchoice and I think that they're
going to continue that if it wasa creative reason for doing so.
So, yeah, I do think thesliding timeline is legit.
I could be totally off base.
But yeah, garrett asks with somuch content in the MCU and Star
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Wars, how do you keep track ofthe details?
For chronology references, I'mwatching all the Marvel's MCU
content.
I'm still in season four ofAgents of SHIELD and I've
already been forgetting detailsof the first season.
It's so much.
You're right, it is like acrazy amount of stuff and I
don't remember everything Iwould love to.
I'm not like a savant that canremember every single date of
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everything that I've ever seen.
You know like pretty much thetitles that I'm working on right
now are the ones that I havehard details like hardwired into
my head.
But I do have to make room forother details for future
projects.
So I will eventually forgetcertain things.
But that's why I keep notes,like I keep very, very detailed
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notes.
I'm going to go over my notesapp, specifically my timelines,
just to see what I got.
So my timeline journal.
Looking at my statistics forthat, I have over 200,000 words
worth of timeline notes acrossseveral different franchises.
The average novel length isprobably 70,000 words.
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So that's a lot.
I have dedicated a lot of timeto my timeline notes and that
has saved me quite a bit of workin going back and forth and
that's why I like sharing thatwith you guys, because I think
it's a neat little trove ofdetails from films, shows,
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comics and books that I keeptrack of.
So I have a fun comment orquestion from the Continuity
Game.
If you watched my MonsterVersetimeline video you will know all
about the Continuity Game.
But the official social forthat asks In Hocus Pocus why are
the kids in school on a Sunday,10, 31?
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1993?
Do they use a differentcalendar or do they have a
different school schedule intheir world?
Maybe, maybe they're justreally religious.
I don't know Sunday school.
That's my best guess.
Alright, guys, I think I'mgonna cap it there.
I've had a lot of fun talkingabout you know stuff, that stuff
that I'm really into, which istimelines.
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How's it going?
Guys and geeks, welcome toProject Geekology.
I'm one of your hosts, dakota,and unfortunately I'm your only
host today.
Anthony is away.
He's visiting family inTennessee for the week and he
left me here by myself.
So I have a microphone, I havea platform and I'm going to use
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it.
It's sad, but you're going tohave to stick with just me.
So this is a very specialepisode.
It's not going to be like anumbered episode I think we're
on 98 or 99 or almost at ahundred episodes but this won't
be a numbered episode becauseAnthony isn't here.
So it's going to be a mini-sodewhere you know we get to talk
about whatever we want andusually Anthony's the one doing
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all those.
I think, actually, anthony hasdone all the mini-sodes up until
this point, but today I am inthe limelight, so I get to do
whatever I want, and I'vedecided to talk about one of my
favorite things ever, which istimelines.
For those of you who only knowme from the Project Geekology
podcast, hi, I make timelinesNot necessarily for a living,
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but just as a hobby.
I make like really really big,really nice, well orchestrated
at least I think so and well puttogether.
You know timeline projects forYouTube and they take me a very
long time to produce.
I put a lot of time and effortinto them, I put a lot of
research into them and today I'mgoing to be breaking down some
of that behind the scenes infoand talk about some of the
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projects that I've had in thepast, some of the products I
have in the future.
Yeah, I've asked on Twitterwhether people have any
questions for me in regards totimeline content for any of the
timelines that I've put together, and I'm not surprised.
Most of the questions are aboutthe MCU, which has been my most
I guess, profound that's notthe right word.
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It's probably my greatestproject, even though I don't
necessarily think it's my best.
It's what most of my fans overon YouTube on my channel Geek
Critique know me for channelGeek Critique know me for, and
I'm also going to be sendingpeople from Geek Critique to the
podcast.
A little bit of cross promotionhere.
Hi, if you are from GeekCritique and you've never
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listened to Project Geekology,usually there's another guy on
here and we usually just tacklea single film or a TV show or a
video game, a book, one title,an episode really, and we try to
break it down, we give it areview, we talk about what works
and what doesn't work, and then, you know, we also, in each
episode, try to catch up on whatwe've been up to, both
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creatively and in our day to daylives.
And it's a chance for Anthonyand I, you know, who have been
friends for almost 30 years atthis point, almost three decades
it gives us a chance to justkeep in contact with each other
because we live in other sidesof the country, and it's a fun
project.
It's a it's project ecologybasically, yeah, I'm, I'm really
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happy with it.
But so let's talk a little bitabout some of the timeline
projects that I have beeninvolved with going over to my
YouTube channel, becausesometimes I forget how many
timelines I've actually done.
I'm not going to go throughevery single thing, but I'm
going to talk about some of thebigger ones that I've tackled
over the years.
Obviously, I want to start outwith the Marvel Cinematic
Universe timeline.
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It is what put me on the map.
And Geek Critique as a YouTubechannel didn't always start as a
timeline channel.
It kind of just evolved intothat.
My wife and I actually startedGeek Critique.
What is it?
Eight years ago, nine years agonow.
It was early in our marriageand she has since, you know,
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decided to take up teaching as aprofession and it's kind of how
do I put it they don't likewhen you have a social media
presence and also be a teacher,because you know parents find
your stuff and it just for thesake of keeping her career path
on track, while you know she'sstill trying to get a tenured
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position.
She's stayed away from not onlythe channel but like a public
social online appearance just ingeneral, and I do miss having
my wife on the channel with me.
But in the meantime, in theyears that have elapsed since
then, I've, you know, had a lotmore time to dive into larger
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projects, which I find is veryfulfilling.
Before we were doing a lot ofreviews and reactionary content,
which was fun and it was easy.
I could produce, you know, twovideos a day if I wanted to.
But now I get to take my timeand study and, you know, produce
something that's really cool.
So the MCU timeline I've beendoing that even before.
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I've been studying the MCUtimeline for about a decade now,
even back in like 2014, 2015,.
When I started my Geek Critiqueblog, I was involved with
mapping the MCU timeline and Ialmost don't want to go back to
those old blog entries because Ifeel like I've grown so much as
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a timeline guy I guess someonewho is really into fictional
chronology and histories that Ifeel like I've just grown so
much more and I probably made acouple of mistakes in that
timeline anyway.
But yeah, so I've made probablyI think I've made seven
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distinct MCU timelines sincethen which have pretty much all
blown up on YouTube and it'sbecome the thing that I'm most
known for and it's not reallylike it's blowing up, but none
of my videos have ever cracked amillion views or anything like
that.
But a lot of you do hold mywork in some esteem and I'm
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really really grateful for that.
I know it's not perfect.
I've made plenty of mistakeswhen it comes to the MCU
timeline in the past and I'llprobably make more as I go.
It's something that I'm, or Ihave been, very passionate about
and I'm probably going to talka little bit more about like
where I'm at with the MCUtimeline going forward.
But I did a going intoindividual titles which a lot of
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you really enjoyed, and Ihaven't really done that in a
little over a year now.
Probably the last one that Idid let me look is probably oh,
I did one for Guardians of theGalaxy, volume 3.
I did one for Secret Invasionand I did one for Quantumania.
Oh, and I did one for theMarvels.
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Okay, so I've done quite a few.
That was 11 months ago, theMarvels.
I do miss it.
But I'm also really happy tohave taken a large break away
from the MCU timeline.
I haven't even caught up onmost of the stuff that's been
popping up recently.
Actually there hasn't been alot of stuff, you know, popping
up recently.
Actually there hasn't been alot of stuff.
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I think I'm pretty much justbehind on a couple stuff like,
uh, I am grew, season two and uh, agatha, all along.
Um, I'm not really intosupernatural stuff anyway.
So I I don't even know if I'mgonna like that or if I'll ever,
you know, really give it achance.
But for the sake of, you know,working on a mcu timeline, I
guess I have to.
Um, and I have promised that anew MCU timeline is coming out.
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So I did get that question.
John Taylor, you asked when willthe new MCU timeline video be
out?
And I have previously mentionedthat I wanted it to come out
mid February, specificallyaround the Captain America Brave
New World movie.
I think it is a goodopportunity for me to release a
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big MCU timeline during the weekor weekend or just in the
periphery of a big Marvelrelease.
And I'm kind of biting mytongue a little bit on that
because I'm also working onanother timeline in the interim.
That's been taking a lot of mytime, unfortunately.
So I still want to get thatvideo out by February with
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Captain America Brave New World.
But I'm starting to thinkthere's a possibility that I
might have to wait untilwhenever Thunderbolts comes out
and I might choose to do thatstrictly, because that is the
end of phase five, supposedly,and I think that that would be a
nice way to cap off that phasewith a completely new and fresh
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timeline into phase six and, youknow, heading into the secret
wars era of the MCU.
But again, I'm not really.
I'm really happy that I've takena break from the MCU, just
because it was a lot and it wasclearly getting very messy.
The fact that they haven't beenable to release most of the
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stuff in the order or the timeframe that they've chosen to do
so is kind of proof that youknow they have bit off way more
than they can chew.
So let me talk a little bitabout some of the other
timelines that I've done.
I think in early 2019, I'mgoing back through my videos now
I made a yes, I made a DCEUchronological timeline.
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I called it my version onetimeline.
I have not ever made a versiontwo of this and that was five
years ago.
I think it was early January of2019.
And I really had fun with that.
I think that was a very goodvideo at the time and I would
love to make a completed dc,dceu chronological timeline,
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especially now that it's acompleted universe.
I think that that would be sucha a fun thing to do.
It's just timing is very, verydifficult and uh yeah.
So, as much as I respect whatthey were able to do with the
DCEU, I think the last coupleoutings there were really weak
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and it turned me off from doingit.
I haven't even seen Aquaman 2yet.
I saw the Flash.
It wasn't bad, it wasn't great,it was just mid, so a lot of
that was happening with the DCEU, and I never saw Blue Beetle
either.
My desire to dive back in andcomplete that version 2 timeline
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for the DCEU has waned quite abit, so I do still want to do
that, especially with the newDCEU coming out, though that too
I'm I'm really apprehensiveabout, because I really don't
like that.
It's a soft reboot.
They're they're using umpeacemaker season two and
they're going to reiterateevents that happened in the past
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, but events that didn't happenin the past aren't reiterated.
They have new actors for things, but they have old actors
playing the same roles.
It's going to be reallyconfusing for people trying to
keep up who aren't, you know,big superhero fans, and it's
going to be confusing for thoseof us who are, because what are
they doing over there?
I guess we'll see soon enoughand that was actually one of the
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questions that I received WillI be making another DC timeline
anytime soon?
Darren Atkins asked me are youworking on a new DC timeline
Currently?
No, it's definitely in the backburner.
It's something I want to do.
It's a stretch goal, but I dohave a lot going on right now in
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my actual day-to-day life,which is also probably why I
don't think I'm going to be ableto get the MCU timeline out by
February, which you know to someof you like why it's just a
video, just release it, recordit.
It's a lot more work than youthink it is.
But I'm also like I have a lotgoing on in my actual day-to-day
life.
I'm working on a big movecoming up, I'm building property
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, or I'm building a, basically asmall house on my in-laws
property and it's been a lot ofwork and money and time
commitment just on that and,yeah, it's been taking a lot of
my attention away from what Ilove doing, which is working on
these projects.
So even the project that I'mworking on right now, the Avatar
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the Last Airbender timeline isreally it's dragging out, and I
really do apologize for those ofyou who don't care about Avatar
the Last Airbender, but it's a.
It's something that I'm reallyreally enjoying studying and
getting into, because this issuch an incredible history that
they've been able to weave.
I don't think I've everexperienced a fictional timeline
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quite as elaborate and uniqueas the Avatar timeline, because
every era of the Avatar iscompletely fleshed out, or at
least the eras that we knowabout are almost completely
fleshed out.
The eras that we know aboutspan thousands to hundreds of
years, and I'm so deep into thatrabbit hole right now.
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I've got, like I think likeover 50,000 words of notes
written for the Avatar, the lastairbender universe, the Avatar
legends universe, the Avatarverse, whatever you want to call
it and I haven't even gotteninto like doing notes for the
corera, the Legend of Korraseries.
So I still have a lot of workon that and that's going to be
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taking up the bulk of my timefor the rest of the year.
Outside of, you know, theupcoming move that I hope to
achieve soon, let's talk aboutsome of the recent timeline
content that isn't specificallyMCU or DCU related.
I really enjoyed making and youknow, speaking of Avatar, I
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really enjoyed making a Avatarlike a James Cameron's Avatar
timeline a series of videos.
Actually I did a couple ofvideos on the Avatar World of
Pandora timeline a couple yearsago, basically when the Way of
Water came out, and that washuge for my channel I think yeah
, I'm looking at it now it hasover 300,000 views.
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For me, who averages, you know,between two and two and 10,000
views per video like this was.
This was rent for me.
Like I never get videos likethis, so it was.
It was such a huge thing for me.
Like I never get videos likethis, so it was.
It was such a a huge thing forme and I really enjoyed, um, the
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exploring the history of thatthere.
Uh, and it's it's amazing to methat both avatar franchises
both you know, james Cameron'savatar and the last airbender
franchise both have such uhamazing grips on their lore and
history.
And, yeah, I had a good timemaking that video.
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A little video that I made thatvery few people actually ever
got around to watching.
I made a my Neighbor Totorotimeline video.
It's not worded as a timelinevideo because, like, how do you
make a timeline video out of myNeighbor Totoro?
But I, I did a little diggingin that one and I found out, you
know, based on in-film clues,that the initial order of events
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are in.
They were shifted around fornarrative purposes but, like the
, the dates are wrong because ofthat inside the film and it's
it's kind of cool.
So that was a fun video that Iwas able to make.
Um, another really fun videothat nobody watched I think it
has, yeah, it's 1500 views uh,the grand history of honor among
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thieves, a dnd timeline.
This movie is so good and Idived deep into all of the
tie-in material that is specificto Honor Among Thieves and I
even got into D&D from it.
I'm now in the midst of a D&Dcampaign, all because of this
movie and because of the love ofmaking this timeline.
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I loved learning about theForgotten Realms, shared
universe and shared history.
Forgotten Realms, shareduniverse and shared history.
There's a fantastic timelinebook for the Forgotten Realms,
which is a play setting withinDungeons and Dragons called the
Grand History of the Realms, andthat's why I named the title of
my video the Grand History ofHonor Among Thieves.
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It was just a little homage andprobably two people got it,
including the author of the book, which you know he actually
commented on that.
So that was.
That was pretty cool.
I made a one piece live actiontimeline.
That was a lot of fun.
Again, a video nobody watched.
That was a very frustrating onefor me, strictly because I put
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so much love and attention intothat and, um, I discovered
things that I think couldactually, you know, indicate
what time period the actualmanga and anime are supposed to
be taking place and because weknow the author of one piece was
so involved in the creation ofthe live action netflix series.
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There are dates that are acouple decades to a hundred
years after the dates that arefeatured in the manga.
But the dates that are featuredin the manga don't specifically
indicate when the present dayis within the manga, so I posit
new information from thelive-action One Piece series
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that basically gives new life towhat happens and when it
happens in the actual manga,which the live-action One Piece
is based off of, not the anime.
A video that did get a littlebit of traction was my
Spider-Verse timeline.
I discovered basically I'mprobably not the first to
discover it, but I had a reallyfun time making that because I
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explored the use of the slidingtimeline within the Spider-Verse
films.
We see in one film it's veryclearly, I think, 2018.
And in the second film it'sclearly 2023.
So how can that possibly bewhen only I think it was 18
months are supposed to havepassed?
Only I think it was 18 monthsare supposed to have passed?
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It doesn't make any senseunless you start thinking about
the Spider-Verse timeline assomething that happens on a
sliding timeline, which is whatthe Marvel Comics actually use,
and because it's so comic heavyin terms of its stylistic
approach, I think that thatholds some merit.
So that was a really cool video.
Had a lot of fun with that Onevideo that got decent views for
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what it is but not nearly asmany as it deserved is my Frozen
timeline.
I know Frozen is a hugefranchise, but I think the
franchise isn't specificallyinterested in the geekier side
of lore, which is timelines andhistory.
But I did.
I I think, uh, it's aphenomenal timeline.
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Um, I worked heavily with uhsuper fans of frozen like
there's a whole uh arendellearchives thing on discord.
That is basically just likepeople who have studied frozen
frame by frame and they've beendoing so for years, and they
loved my timeline.
I worked with them in creatingit and making sure I got all the
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details right.
That was such a cool projectand I was able to get another
creator, modern Mouse, to helpme bring the story of this
history to life, so that was acool one.
A video that actually did doreally well this year was my
MonsterVerse timeline.
It's my first hour plustimeline video and I don't think
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it's going to be my last,because, seeing how my Avatar,
the Last Airbender video isshaping up, as well as my goals
for my MCU timeline coming upversion 8, I think that those
videos are going to be hour plusas well.
So if you want to get an ideaof what I have working on with
both the MCU and Avatar, theLast Airbender, I highly
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recommend checking out myMonsterVerse timeline.
It is probably my best singlevideo to date.
I don't know, actually, I don'tknow about that.
I still hold some of my othersa little higher in terms of how
much I sentimentally value them,but I think it's a really
fantastic video and I'm reallyhappy with the reception with
that.
Let's answer some questionsbefore we continue going through
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all of it.
Actually, you know what?
No, let's just talk about theStar Wars Time Saber.
I spent a couple months of thisyear working on a visual
timeline not necessarily a videotimeline of the Star Wars
universe.
There's just so much Star Warsout there from novels, comics,
short stories, manga, videogames, comic books, junior
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novels, middle grade novels,movies, tv shows there's so much
Star Wars, um, and there'sessentially new Star Wars being
released every week, um, so Icouldn't possibly, you know,
make a timeline under 10 hoursand that's just way too much
work for where I'm at right now.
And so, yeah, I made a visualStar Wars timeline.
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Uh, it's called the Star Warstime saber, it's, uh, it's.
You just got to check out myYouTube channel it's linked in
the description to see exactlyhow I made that happen, made
that a reality.
Let's answer some morequestions.
Chrono Keeper asks when are wegetting more Dakota notes?
And he also asks when are wegetting the 616 Marvel Comics
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timeline?
You can totally read thousandsof comics, right, wow?
The second question I don'thave plans and I often joke
online like I'm not going to bemaking this timeline or that
timeline, but this is one whereI just don't think that I have
it in me, like I just knowing mywork ethic, knowing how much
time in the day I have, thiswould take me years, years to
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accomplish and I don't think Icould possibly do that, even
though it would be a pipe dream.
If I'm ever not working aneight hour, if I'm ever not
working a 40 hour constructionjob every week, then I might
consider it.
I do have notes on the comicbooks that I do read, but, yeah.
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So Chrono Keeper mentions theDakota notes.
Uh, so I think he's talkingabout the uh notes that I
release on my Patreon, uh Googledrive.
Basically it's called uh GeekCritique Timelines and I've
released I think it's got to bea little over 100 different
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notes for different titles atthis point, but soon.
Chrono Keeper, I'm going to bereleasing most of my Avatar
stuff very soon and I have a bitmore of the Star Wars notes
that I've taken over the years,including the recent book
Temptation of the Force, which Ijust finished and it's so, so
good.
Yeah, so I'll be releasingthose for my Patreon followers
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and you can find links to thatin any of my YouTube videos.
I'm not going to bog down withthat, but yeah, so I take heavy,
heavy notes for pretty mucheverything that I ever plan to
make timeline content on oranything that I want to keep
track of, and when I can, whenit's neat enough, I try to
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release it online as a resourcefor people who oh, in chapter
seven of this book it says hewas gone for three months or
whatever you know, and you cankind of use that as a tool to
explore these timelines on yourown.
And I have those notes for myFrozen stuff.
I had a lot of notes for myMonsterVerse stuff and all
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that's available to my Patreonpeoples.
The Echo Light Are there anytimelines that haven't been
requested much that you'd loveto make Alternatively, or
additionally, are theretimelines that have been
requested much that you justreally don't want to make.
Yes and yes, off the top of myhead.
I can't really think too muchabout that, just because there's
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only so much stuff I can manageat one time.
But projects that I would loveto do I would love to do an
alien project.
I know that you, echoliteBlacklight, are big into the
alien franchise and I, you knowI'd probably tap your vast
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knowledge if I ever wanted to doa history of that, so that
would be kind of cool.
I'd wanted to do a history ofthat, so that would be kind of
cool.
I'd love to do an alientimeline, but strictly from a
point of view of theWeyland-Yutani Corporation.
So an outsider from thatcorporation looking into the
events of this history, I thinkwould be a fascinating idea for
a timeline video or historical.
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Additionally, are theretimelines that have been
requested that you just don'treally want to make?
Yeah, all the time I'm givenrequests for stuff.
I think jokingly just becauseI'm the timeline guy, but I have
no interest in anythingsupernatural.
I've mentioned no horror stuff,no gore or anything like that.
I like to geek out.
(24:47):
I don't like beinguncomfortable when I do so.
I guess Alien is pretty much asscary as I like.
But yeah, so there we go.
A couple more questions.
Ahmad, I hope I pronounced thatcorrectly.
You know I've been friends withyou for, you know, forever
online.
I don't think I've everactually said your name out loud
(25:20):
.
You said one.
I think I've ever actually saidyour name out loud.
You said dependent referencesto their show and your placement
of the first season initiallyseemed pretty solid and
justified.
You asked actually quite a fewquestions and I'm going to try
to get to all of them.
Yeah, I'm going to be honest,ahmad.
I haven't watched Runaway Season3 or Cloak and Dagger in five
(25:44):
or six years at this point,whenever that released, and I
really haven't spent any time inthe Marvel TV universe you know
, pre WandaVision in a very longtime and I've gotten to the
point where I'm I'm not supercertain about why I chose
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certain things at the time thatI did, and I'm getting to the
point where I'm almost I don'tplan on going back to these
shows anytime soon for mytimelines, even though I plan to
include them.
So at this point I'm kind ofprobably just going to work
alongside the MCU Wiki, makesure that I have their approval
(26:26):
in terms of, like, whatplacements you know work with my
timeline and their timeline.
Yeah, I think I've just kind ofgiven up on Marvel ever
choosing to canonize any of thatlike hard canon.
I don't mean to say that Idon't think it's canon, but I
don't think Marvel's ever goingto reference these shows ever
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again outside of Daredevil andthose films.
But Cloak Dagger, I remember,had strong connections to Luke
Cage, the first and secondseasons of that.
So that's why I had CloakDagger earlier on the timeline
as opposed to Runaways and thatjust kind of translated into
something that didn't reallywork on a timeline when they
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crossed over.
But yeah, I'll give that somethought.
I'm not entirely sure if I wantto use the MCU timeline stuff
going forward, but it's apossibility.
Will every piece of mediaconnected through Spider-Verse
be included in your next bigtimeline?
I don't even know.
I don't even want to thinkabout all of that.
I don't think so.
(27:29):
I think it's just stuff that isspecifically crossing over with
the MCU.
Number three you ask this ismore subjective but given the
recent connections, what partsof Marvel TV do you for now
consider to be concretely canon?
Oh, I was just talking aboutthat.
Yeah, daredevil and probablythe Defenders, because I don't
see how you can do Daredevilwithout the Defenders series.
(27:50):
Luke Cage, iron Fist, jessicaJones I don't know how they're
going to treat that, especiallyIron Fist, which was pretty
universally maligned, eventhough I kind of liked it.
I could maybe see Agents ofSHIELD being introduced or
referenced in some capacity, butthat's about as deep of a cut
(28:11):
as I think Marvel Studios willever make, specifically because
they don't even have time torelease new content for the
heroes that they are alreadyusing.
When are we going to see DoctorStrange again?
When are we going to see MoonKnight again?
When are we going to see drstrange again?
When are we going to see moonknight again?
When are we going to see shehulk again?
They have, they have plans, I'msure, but we won't see them for
four years, five years, whoknows it's.
(28:32):
There's so much stuff that theyhave that they cannot manage
that.
I have no, no doubt thatthey'll.
You know, just never talk aboutanything within the marvel tv
realm outside of, maybe, agentsof shield, ever again.
If that, um, and you ask if Ihave any dc related plans for
the future, I'm gonna keep anose, a close eye on the dcu.
(28:56):
Um, I know a lot of us are uh,just because it's it's fresh
territory, but we'll see.
We'll see where that goes.
Pivot asks about thespider-verse movies.
Are you still confident, andconfident on it really being a
sliding timeline?
If so, do you think thatthey'll keep this model for
beyond the spider-verse?
I think they will.
I mean, am I confident?
(29:16):
I only have two films to workwith here, but it seems to me
that this was an intentionalchoice and I think that they're
going to continue that if it wasa creative reason for doing so.
So, yeah, I do think thesliding timeline is legit.
I could be totally off base.
But yeah, garrett asks with somuch content in the MCU and Star
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Wars, how do you keep track ofthe details?
For chronology references, I'mwatching all the Marvel's MCU
content.
I'm still in season four ofAgents of SHIELD and I've
already been forgetting detailsof the first season.
It's so much.
You're right, it is like acrazy amount of stuff and I
don't remember everything Iwould love to.
I'm not like a savant that canremember every single date of
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everything that I've ever seen.
You know like pretty much thetitles that I'm working on right
now are the ones that I havehard details like hardwired into
my head.
But I do have to make room forother details for future
projects.
So I will eventually forgetcertain things.
But that's why I keep notes,like I keep very, very detailed
(30:22):
notes.
I'm going to go over my notesapp, specifically my timelines,
just to see what I got.
So my timeline journal.
Looking at my statistics forthat, I have over 200,000 words
worth of timeline notes acrossseveral different franchises.
The average novel length isprobably 70,000 words.
(30:45):
So that's a lot.
I have dedicated a lot of timeto my timeline notes and that
has saved me quite a bit of workin going back and forth and
that's why I like sharing thatwith you guys, because I think
it's a neat little trove ofdetails from films, shows,
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comics and books that I keeptrack of.
So I have a fun comment orquestion from the Continuity
Game.
If you watched my MonsterVersetimeline video you will know all
about the Continuity Game.
But the official social forthat asks In Hocus Pocus why are
the kids in school on a Sunday,10, 31?
(31:27):
1993?
Do they use a differentcalendar or do they have a
different school schedule intheir world?
Maybe, maybe they're justreally religious.
I don't know Sunday school.
That's my best guess.
Alright, guys, I think I'mgonna cap it there.
I've had a lot of fun talkingabout you know stuff, that stuff
that I'm really into, which istimelines.
Thank you for your questions.
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