The Dragon Prince - Season 1 - Project Geekology

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to episode 110 of Project Geekology.
What do you get when you putAvatar and Ruby together?
You get the Dragon Prince.
Yes, that is what we arecovering today.
I am one half of your host,anthony, and joining me, as
always, is Dakota and I havedrank my hot brown morning

(00:21):
potion.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I am ready to go, even though you know we're
recording this at night, but Iam so ready for this.
I've been talking about thedragon prince for a couple weeks
now on the show and I'm excitedto have finally brought on
board two new dragon princeviewers.
I don't know what to call youguys.
I don't even know if you likethe show, whatever, but we'll
find out very soon what anthonyand our other guest, our other

(00:42):
host actually rich Rich.
How you doing, buddy?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'm doing great.
You know it's the week off uphere in New York so I've been
kind of maximizing that, went tothe Banksy Museum today, got
some great eats in the city andbeen filling my time with a lot
of Star Wars Outlaws.
I'm really loving that game.
I mean the stealth.
You know, despite you tellingme weeks ago that stealth is

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going to be very important, Istill decided to go into some.
Like I think I went to my firstimperial compound and I was
just shooting everyone, I didn'tcare, and then I quickly got
taken down and I, after about 15tries of just bum rushing it, I
said you know, I think I gottaslow it down so yeah, or at
least like try to like go inthrough the side or like go atop

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it somehow, and yeah, no,that's, that's a lot of what
outlaws is but I'm starting andthat's fun, oh yeah that's fun,
but it doesn't work with allplay styles yeah, so it's
definitely reigning me andreigning me in a lot, but I'm
enjoying it.
It's definitely a different lookat star wars.
You know, I I liked thesurvivor and I can't remember

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the other one right now, but thesame one.
Order, yeah.
Final order with cal castas.
I like those games but at thesame time I hated the maps they
wanted to make me kill, like thelack of map or the the terrible
maps where it wouldn't show youwhere you were on the map
relative, like if you were atthe beginning of a passage or
the end of a passage.
So I got really frustrated withthat.

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I'm finding that the mapsaren't as difficult here, but,
as always, I said to my wife asI was playing I was like my
favorite video games my biggestenemy is the mountain, whether
it's fallout vegas, whether it'sskyrim, whether it's red dead,
when you're down in mexico it'smountains.

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Man like I'm just like, oh,there goes the marker, I'm right
there.
Oh wait, no, it's actually a500 foot.
You know cliff face and I haveno way of getting up there.
So now I have to backtrackseven miles.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I just oh, that is really annoying, and there's a
lot of that I hate.
I hate mountains, I just hatethem so skyrim did's a lot of
that.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I hate mountains.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
I just hate them so much Skyrim did that a lot, but
at least you could like inSkyrim, you could like jump
backwards while crouching andlike climb any mountain.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
You could climb any mountain if you worked hard
enough.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I got to the point where I was like, no, I'm not
doing, I'm just gonna butt jumpall the way back up this
mountain, you know, and I kindof missed the butt jumping and
you know what there was also inoblivion which is the elder
scrolls game that came outbefore that.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
You could maximize your acrobatics, oh my god,
which which just allowed you tojump higher and higher you.
You could jump over buildingsin that game, like it.
It just and that's a natural,that's not like a bug or
anything that's, that's that'sbuilt into the game for some
reason.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, that's because you could.
Your legs are just that'sbecause you could, uh, increase
like you could.
You would increase like running, and like you could increase
jumping and acrobatics, likejust by literally just walking
around at sky like oblivion,just jumping.
I would just like jump for likean hour eventually your jumps
will be op.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
You could get over like pretty much most cliff
faces that you.
You know you couldn't normallyget up, but but yeah, that was.
That was fun.
That was when games made littlesense but had a whole lot of
you know we don't need them to.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
You know like we really like bring back the
acrobatic skill.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Honestly, my favorite thing is going through a really
complicated dungeon, like areally complicated dungeon, and
then, like when you get to theend of it in Skyrim they would
just have like an easy exit,like I'd just be like, oh,
here's this rando door thatleads to the beginning of the
cave, and it made me so happybecause the deeper I got I was
always like will I be able toget back?

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And I just loved that.
Oh, hey, here you go, like I, Ikind of like in I think outlaws
does that a little bit whereyou'll get to the end, and
instead of like, okay, now youhave to sneak out, it's like
wait, here's another way out.
I'm like, yay, sky room, skyroom would do that.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Like their like dungeons were like just one
giant circle you know you wouldgo down a little bit, go back up
, you know and then like you'relike, oh hey, that's the.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
It's like a space above where you like walked into
and you're like, man, like if Icould jump up there, I could
have just skipped all of thisand so if you guys ever do check
out our show notes down below,there's usually like a two to
three paragraph introductionthat's provided as like an ai

(05:14):
assistant to the podcast thatthe podcasting host website
buzzsprout creates for us.
It basically like amalgamateseverything that's said in the
podcast into three paragraphs,and I assure you that the first
paragraph is going to now justbe about jumping in video games,
and I can't wait to read itbecause it makes it's gonna.
It's just, this podcast is aboutdragon prince guys, mostly,

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anyway but it's gonna devotelike a third of the introduction
to just jumping in video gamesand I think that that's the
funniest thing ever.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
We yeah, yeah, Like I mean, we try to doctor it a bit
.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
No, we do.
We have to because sometimes itjust doesn't even know yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Anybody who's like into AI knows that those things
hallucinate like crazy.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Maybe in that case we should jump into Anthony's big
week.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, cause we, we should jump into Anthony's big
week?
Yeah, because we like to jump.
Well, I'm going to let you guys, I'll go last, because you know
mine will be like a little Allright, so it'll probably go a
while, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I'll go next.
Yeah, I was working around thenew house a lot this week,
finally figured out all theplumbing issues that we've been
having, like for some reason,like the pump wasn't pumping,
there was a leak in the toilet,there were certain things that
just weren't hooked up, and I'vebeen working on that pretty

(06:35):
much primarily.
But today I finally we kind offigured out all of that.
We got like all the doors inplace that needed to be, you
know, the final stufffacade-wise and I'm really happy
about that and our appliances,you know, a fridge, stove,
washing machine and microwavecome tomorrow, on Thursday.
So a couple days, you know acouple days ago, as of you guys

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listening here.
So I'm excited to just finallyhave a workable home.
But I did spend a little bit oftime today going back into my
project.
It's been a couple weeks sinceI've actively worked on the
avatar timeline just becauseI've been, you know, just
busting my back on finishingthis big project which is a
house.
But yeah, I'm going back andI'm doing more timeline notes.

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I'm watching through avataragain and I just watched today
the episode the Sun Warriors,where Zuko and Aang basically
find out that dragons stillexist in small numbers and
there's a secret civilization ofyou know, basically like Aztec
and Mayan people who are theoriginal firebenders, and it's
just fun.

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I miss fun stuff like that andI'm excited to talk about more
fun stuff like that today,because the show that we're
covering, the dragon prince isvery much in that vein of
perhaps a little bit more wackyis not the word, but it's a lot
more light-hearted, I think,than avatar generally is.
But yeah, I'm excited to jumpinto that later.
But that's pretty much all thatI've been up to, I think, and

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yeah, I'm gonna send it rightback over to you, anthony well,
so I'm gonna dedicate a littlebit of this podcast to the
weekend, so like valentine's dayweekend.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
So by the time that y'all get this, it's would have
been already like a little overa week since, since I've gone,
but I went to a convention.
It was called Animate Miami andit was at the Miami Airport
Convention Center.
I've gone there many times formany conventions.
I even went there for Superconback in its smaller, more

(08:39):
humbler days and, yeah, man, itwas a good time.
It was its first year backsince, like I think, 2018.
The the guy, who the guy?
So the guy who runs it he runsthis convention circuit called
galaxy con.
I don't know if you've everheard of them, but the same guy

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owns these things called, orthese conventions called,
animate there's a few of them.
He also does these thingscalled, or these conventions
called, animate there's a few ofthem.
He also does these thingscalled nightmare weekends, which
are you know, they're like morededicated to horror and and so
this same guy actually ownedsuper con way back then and sold
it to read pop.
So I think the reason whyanimate probably stopped was

(09:23):
because I think there was anon-compete in either florida or
south florida for about fiveyears and then, now that those
like five years are up, he ohthey can.
They can go back yeah, he's backnow, so this was you know.
So this was its first year back.
The thing I loved about goingto this convention was that it

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wasn't quite packed yet.
I mean, don't get me wrong,there was tons of people there,
but it wasn't quite packedenough to where I had to park in
the overflow parking.
I actually got to park in thefront of the convention center
like all three days and I waslike, oh, thank you so much, I
dude, I just don't like going tothat overflow parking.
It's scary as heck.
It's like in the dark.

(10:05):
I feel like I'm gonna getattacked like any like moment.
I don't know why that overflowparking is so dark.
I think there's lights there.
They just don't turn them on.
That was a problem with otakufest, for sure, and I know that
otaku fest is going back to theMiami airport convention center,

(10:26):
so I don't know how that'sgonna work out.
That's gonna be just absolutelyannoying.
But I had a really good time.
They, they.
I always like going to thesesmaller conventions because
there's like a certain likeintimacy to it that, like you
know, although there's still alot of people there, you don't
feel like you're wall to walljust packed out, like, the

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previous weekend was megacon anda lot of these vendors went to
megacon and a lot of them didlike pretty well as far as, like
you know, making money atmegacon.
Some of them didn't do so wellon this weekend and I think that
it was probably because megacona lot I mean megacon is in

(11:12):
florida.
It's like maybe the I would Iwould actually call it like
maybe the nycc for florida, likethere's no bigger convention in
florida than megacon and youdidn't go though you didn't go,
did you?
no, no, dude, megacon is justtoo early in the year for me.
It's too early for me to plan atrip to go up to orlando and,

(11:36):
uh, like you, you know,especially after, like you know,
the holiday season and all thatstuff, it's just sure, yeah,
it's just yeah, it's, it's tooearly to to plan a trip like
that.
At least with anime it's alittle bit closer, I can drive,
and so, yeah, I think that youknow a lot of people that
probably went up to megacon,also went to this one too.

(11:56):
You know a lot of florida folkfrom from south florida, so I
don't think a lot of them spenta lot of money, you know,
because they're like, oh, I wentto megacon, I mean I, I, I made
a, a few purchases, I mean Ishowed you the little jeff the
land shark that I got and I gota couple of of other things.
I got some persona mouse pads.

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Dakota dakota is smirking, youknow, I know he wants to talk
crap I don't, I know nothingabout dakota, dakota hates zero
about persona dakota hates my,my persona joy
he's writhing in pain.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I could see an absolute hater.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
No, but they had like these, these viewing rooms.
Every convention I've gone tohas like some sort of viewing
room that, like you know, one islike showing out anime and the
other might be showing somethingelse.
So towards the end of saturdayno, no, friday night, after the
exhibition floor closed, therooms upstairs were still

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there's still stuff going onuntil like 1, 2 am.
But one of the rooms wasshowing sonic 3.
So like I sat in and watchedsonic 3 with like a bunch of
like just you know random peoplethat would pop in and pop out.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I was for you what happened?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
that was the first time for you yeah, I didn't see,
uh, sonic 3 in the theaters soI I sat and I was gonna sit
there maybe for a little while,but I was like, oh you know what
, like I decided to sit andwatch it.
I mean it was.
I think it started around, likeyou know, eight o'clock and
ended, maybe I don't even knowhow long maybe close to 10 or a

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little after 10, so I mean, soit was cool.
Like I mean, they were showingsonic 3.
They had, you know, anime there.
There was actually like anotherlike podcast that was kind of
walking around there.
They were called.
I have them here.
I was connecting with peeps outthere dakota.
I was connecting with peeps.
They're called um.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
You met real people real people.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, freestyle anime podcast.
And you know, I was kind oflike, you know, just, you know,
talking back and forth, they sawthat I had the press pass and
they're like, oh, are you likewith the publication?
I was like, no, I'm, I'm withwith the podcast and they're
like, oh, for real, we are too.
And uh, you know, it was reallycool.
They had some of their ownmerch and they had, like, you

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know, anime hot takes and allthat stuff.
You know I've been, I've beenwanting us to to get together
and do something at a conventiontogether.
Um, believe it or not, theytold me that, like I don't, I
mean maybe not the biggerconventions, but some of the
smaller ones that he said thatthey've gone to a few and he
said that they're always likethat the conventions are always

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looking for people to fill outpanels, and so they had a panel.
Oh, no, they didn't.
Do they have a panel?
No, I don't think this timethey around, they had a panel,
but they said that they've donea few panels and a lot of them
are like, you know, anime hottakes.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
And I'm like dude, like I was like it would just be
so funny.
It would just be so funny if weever did a panel and it's just
like five people in the audienceand like two people leave or
something.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
He said that a lot of these panels that he's gone to
they'll like fill out.
It's just keeping them in thereand I'm like it's places for
people to sit Right exactly andto listen and I'm like.
I'm like it's, it's, it'splaces for people to sit Right,
exactly, and to listen.
And I'm like you know what theperfect one for Dakota would be
like and I know you would belike all into it would be like
talking about the MCU timeline,you know.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
And I'm like, I'm like Dakota could do a panel on
that and then we could bringrich down, you know, or wherever
it is that we do it.
But no, I thought that was cool.
I was like man, you know, Ididn't consider doing a a panel,
but that would be interestingto like.
You know, that wouldn't berandom, like if we go do a panel
at some random convention andwe have people like, oh, I

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listen to you all the time.
I'll be like what the heck?
Just like in a random place.
But it would be.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
But the closest I've ever.
I I was on this like weirdwrestling youtube interview show
that they do weekly, and thenext night or three nights later
I was still in mexico and Iwent to an arena for a show and
some guy was like hey, I saw youon tv yesterday and I'm like,
oh, what's going on, man?
He's like rich right.
I'm like that's weird.
That's weird.
I'm like, oh, what's going on,man?
He's like rich right, and I'mlike that's weird, that's weird.

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I'm like that's super weirdbecause, like it's the nichest
of the niche right, like it's aYouTube, it's a, it's a like
Lucha Libre YouTube show.
You know, I mean I coulddefinitely see Dakota doing a
panel 1,000%.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, maybe someday I've gotten recognized by people
in the past.
Sometimes I'll be at like anopening night screening and it's
the people who are at openingnight screenings who are most
likely to have experienced mywork or, you know, seen my face
online somewhere.
So I'll sometimes get peoplesay, oh wait, are you that guy?
And yeah, I'm that guy.
But my favorite was at new yorkcomic-con.

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One time I was walking into thebathroom and someone stopped me
and they're like dude, are yougeek critique?
And I was just like.
I was just taken aback becauseI was just like in the bath.
I had to like get to thebathroom and I was just in that
mindset.
I was like, yeah, dakota,what's up, what's your name?
He's like he told me his nameand then he's just like, uh,

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good luck in the bathroom.
And yeah, that was.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Dakota just had to let one loose and this guy
wanted to talk but yeah, so anyany cool stories from the con or
I did.
They did have a and and I kindof like stayed a part of that
because one of my friends went.
But after the festivities onSaturday they had like this like

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emo, like music night upstairsand they were playing like a
bunch of like stuff that, likeyou know, we grew up with.
There was Green Day.
They were playing like paparoach, lincoln park afi and was
it like slipknot, whatnot, andlike even some of like the, the
newer, like you know, like laterin the 2000s, like when you

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like fell off of like kind oflistening to to rock.
That's cool, but but yeah, no,that that was a good time.
I got a few things.
I got the jeff, the mouse pad.
I felt bad for the, the artistalley.
I always feel like artist alley.
They always get stuck in likejust the corner somewhere, you

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know, and in super con likethey're like kind of out the
main floor and I know that liketo save space because the miami
airport convention center is alittle bit smaller and like the
other like showroom that theyhad there was like the place
that that uh and rich would haveloved this.
They had uh wrestling there.
They it was like characterwrestling, you know, and so like

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upstairs and like one of thelike I guess bigger panel rooms
is where they had Artist Alleyand I went up there and perused
a couple things.
But yeah, man, overall I thoughtit was a pretty fun show.
I expect it to grow.
It was not the smallestconvention I've been to.

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There was money put into theadvertisement and stuff and I
mean they had the bigger galaxycon that it's connected to.
So it's not, like you know, agroup of people trying to make a
convention Like.
I think Otaku Fest is genuinelylike the smallest like
convention that I've kind ofattended.
That's blown up to what it'sblown up to, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
So you think Animate Miami is going to blow up
eventually?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, yeah, I think that it'll probably.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Well, it'll take a couple years, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, it'll probably grow out the Miami Airport
Convention Center, but I wasjust happy enough to enjoy it in
its In its infancy.
You know, yeah, in its infancy.
You know being able to not haveto park and you know the
overflow, parking and totaldarkness.
But yeah, man, it was.
I enjoyed it.
For those of you that are inthe Miami area that like

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conventions that were eithercouldn't make it to it or
weren't, you know, that werekind of like on the fence about
it, I wholeheartedly, youknowedly, recommend it.
Hopefully they have it at abetter time, that it's not too
close to Megacon, so that allthe vendors and artists can make
more money next time.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Folks, this sounds like a juicy five-star review,
if I ever heard one Speaking ofwhich you should probably take
some time out of your day.
If you're driving in the car, Iunderstand, don't do that while
you're driving.
But when you stop driving or ifyou're doing anything active,
when you finally stop that,please be sure to go to your
podcast application and clickthat five star rating, because

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we need a juicy one, we need ajuicy review, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
We need to be juicy.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, that's how it goes here, but why don't we take
a step back from Anime at Miamia little bit and talk about the
topic at hand for the day?
Unless, anthony, you had moreto say.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
No, no, we're good to go.
That was my spiel.
We are good to go.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
The Dragon Prince, season one.
We're covering the first nineepisodes of the show.
It's, I, I think.
When I first started watchingthe show a couple months back, I
was surprised how quickly itwas to just get through episodes
, because the story is just easyto digest.
There's not a whole lot of likenew narratives thrown in at you

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throughout the course of it andand it's all one overarching
story and through line,basically like chapters in a
book, you know.
So it's a really easy show, atleast for me to have binged.
And I was surprised when I gotto season two, not because of
what happens in season two oranything, I'm just like
surprised that.
Oh you know, I finished this ina very short time.
Maybe this would be a good ideato cover on Project Geekology,

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and I finally convinced thesetwo bozos to get on board.
Guys, what did you think?

Speaker 3 (22:14):
So it's weird, because if you put it down on
paper and you had told me allthe beats, I think I would have
said, eh, it's derivative andit's pandering, and I don't
think I'm gonna like it becausethey're trying to force me to
like it.
And then I liked it likethere's no business like there.

(22:35):
There's one line that reallycatches it for me and it's like
you know, grabs I can't rememberthe name of the animal, you
know he's like say hello to mylittle friend and I'm like oh
bait, okay, I'm like hold on,hold, on hold on.
Like, what are we talking aboutright now?
Like this is.
This is like, most likely akid's show.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I, I, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, like
I, I was really confused when I,when I tell you listeners that
you know if, if you go into thiswith like a you know, a
cultured, you know view on popculture and you've experienced a
lot of things you're going tojust find little, just like

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throwaway lines that are veryclearly from different things.
They like I've mentioned on theshow a number of times that they
reference Avatar, the LastAirbender, all the time
throughout the course of thisshow and I noticed a couple more
times during this watching ofseason one that I'll talk about
later.
But yeah, there's tons of that.
There's a whole scene in seasonfive.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
There's a lot of one-liners.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
There's a whole lot of one-liners.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Like Rich said, say hello to my little friend and
Bate just glows and becomes uhand then what you said, like
when you first, like you know,spoke on this episode about the
hot morning, was it hot brownmorning potion?
Yes, yeah, yeah.
And I that made me laughbecause, like I, you know, I was
like oh, this is kind of like a, like a real life joke in there

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, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
But yeah, there's a lot of like references to like
actual, like other titles, likethere's a whole scene that's
like very reminiscent of likeTwin Peaks in the Red Lodge
scenes that blew my mind thatthey were able to get away with
that and like most peoplewatching probably had no idea
what the heck was going on.
Heck was going on there's.

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So in the in the first episode,claudia, the daughter of the
high mage, she basically she'sreading a book in like the main
courtyard and the book is calledlove amongst the dragons, which
is a play that ang and hisfriends watch at the end of
season three of avatar, the lastairbender in the fire nation.
It's like a popular fire nationplay called love amongst the
dragons.
I I totally missed that thefirst time through, but that's

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something that claudia wasreading, you know oh, I didn't
even catch that yeah, it's, it'ssuper, super minimal.
And then, you know, like inavatar, the last airbender, we
have characters like saka, who,you know, the the actor jack de
sena plays a major character inthis series yeah, it's like very
similar oh, it's, it's theexact same character yeah, yeah

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they even play off off the.
They play off on the idea that,like he's the plan guy which is
exactly what socca was in avatarthe last air bender and there's
even a line in in avatar, thelast airbender, where it's like
the new plan is the old plan andthat and that's a major part of
like they're trying to figureout what's happening on the
mountaintop later in the season.

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I think someone says somethingalong the lines of like no, the
original plan is correct, thenew plan is the old plan.
And it's just like.
If you yeah, it's just fun, ifyou're paying attention and you
know like, you can watch thisshow completely oblivious to any
and all Easter eggs andreferences to either real life
or other titles, and it's fine,it becomes a fun show.

(25:53):
But it becomes just a game oflike haha, I caught that, haha,
I know what that's about.
It becomes a game of that.
So I thought that that waspretty cool.
I'm glad you picked up on.
Obviously you picked up on sayhello to my little friend, but
that's a very blatant one.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, there were a lot of things like.
Like, at first I, I, I honestlyI was like I don't know.
It did remind me a lot ofavatar, but I don't think it hit
me as I don't know why it on.

(26:30):
You know, when they went on aquest, I went a point and I was
like, oh, it's very, lord of therings.
It almost was like somebody waslike let's just take a little
bit of this, a little bit ofthat, and these people who like
this kind of stuff will like it.
And that's why I kind of wasresistant.
But then by the end of theseason I'm like gosh, darn it,
you got me.
The only thing that drives mecrazy, there's one thing about
the entire show.
I watched episode three, Igotta say, like three times and
every time I got to the end andI said, did I miss what happened

(26:53):
to king harrow?
oh, oh okay, uh okay, so we haveto talk okay, and and I and,
and then you know, like, I gotit, I get it and we'll talk
about it, right, but it's just,that episode for me was very
confusing.
It was very.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I think it's meant yeah, but it to be to be honest,
I don't actually know theanswer to this, because I'm five
seasons I I've seen the firstfive oh, okay and that has not
been answered, but somethinghappened in that room and I I
feel like that's going to beexplored later down the line.
They kind of give you the ideathat the king's soul was

(27:29):
forcibly swapped into anotherbody to protect the king's life,
but the body of the king waskilled okay because but we just
never get.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
There's not even a square down scene.
Really, like I kept rewinding,I started like scanning the
episode.
I'm like am I crazy?
Like did I just miss the scene?
Because it just goes from likehere's the attack, and then
episode four starts with afuneral anthony, what did?

Speaker 2 (27:56):
what did you think of that?
We haven't really spoken to youat all I felt like the scene
was.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
It was alluded to the king being killed, but there's
an obvious reason why somethingwasn't shown.
But I I feel like, I feel likelike I picked up on the moment
that the king was in the throneroom and, you know, supposedly
something happened.
Obviously it was somethinggoing on with the high mage,

(28:26):
which is like very much so, likehis character reminds me of
jafar, like a lot, you know,like he's got okay, yeah, yeah,
yeah um, you know he's like thesecond in command and you know
he obviously has this ulteriormotive of ruling the kingdom.
In this instance it's jafar withkids and I know that he like

(28:49):
he's kind of roped his kids intothis thing.
But I don't hate them like.
I feel like they're verylikable.
They're very likable and I Idon't think that I think when
push comes to shove, they're notgonna.
I mean, you're further than us,you know.
So we're I'm going, you know,based purely on speculation.

(29:10):
But you know, I think that youknow, whenever this
confrontation happens, that theycatch up, that I don't think
that they're gonna actually wantto harm ezran or callum at all
yeah and you know, and, and likethey're, they're just very
silly.
You know, I really like the, thejoke that, oh my gosh, what?

(29:33):
What was the son's name?
Again, it was soren soren,soren, right, and you know,
there he was talking about the,the tallest mountain, and was it
Kaltuk?
Katalis, katalis, yes, and he'slike you could say that it's
the Katalis mountain and I, dude, I loved how corny it was and

(29:57):
it was meant to be that.
Yes, and there's a lot of, andthey're both like that and so,
yeah, like their characters arevery likable and I just I feel
like, unfortunately, you know,they're pawns to their father
and, yeah, like I can't wait tosee, like, how their story

(30:19):
progresses Because, I'll behonest, like at first, when I
first started watching it, theshow didn't grab me right away.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
It took yeah, it's a.
It's a little bit of a slowburn, it's like charming, but
it's like am I really going toget it?

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, Right, I feel like by episode four and a half.
Five is when, like it startedto grab me a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
So let so let's talk a little bit about the.
You know the overall premise ofthe show, because I know
probably a lot of you who arejust casual listeners to the
podcast and you know, don'tfollow along with every single
title, don't know what exactlywe're talking about.
So the dragon prince is a showon netflix.
It's like fantasy animatedseries.
Anthony, you already mentionedthat.
It's kind of like avatar, thelast airbender, a little bit of
ruby.
I've heard people compare it toarcane.
I I have not seen arcane, butbasically the the story premise

(31:10):
going into this series is thatthe lands of the east and the
west are divided in the middle.
Uh, the lands to the east arelike magical elf lands that the
dragons live there, and at somepoint 1000 years ago the humans
learned a new type of magic thatkilled other life forms so that

(31:32):
they could, you know, wieldmagic.
It's called dark magic and thatdark magic kind of separated
them from other races who usedlike natural forms of magic and
basically that caused a rift intheir society and there was a
long-standing war between menand elves for, I'm assuming,

(31:52):
about a thousand years.
So in this show we pick up acouple weeks after the king and
his advisor, the high mage Viren, go and kill the dragon king.
And this is a character likethe dragon king is a literal
dragon king who protects theborder between the two, you know
, the east and the west of thiscontinent.

(32:14):
And in so doing they alsosupposedly killed the dragon
prince, which was an egg.
But we find out early on in theseries that the dragon prince
is still alive in egg form.
And during a assassinationattempt on the king's life, the
elves are retaliating on thehumans.
At this point, in anassassination attempt, one of

(32:36):
the elves, rayla, goes and findsthe two princes, the two human
princes, and they show her thatthe dragon prince egg is still
alive.
So the three of them are now ona trek to bring it back to the
other side of Zadia, which islike the elf lands, and bring it
to the mother dragon, basically.

(32:58):
So this first season is only thestart to their journey into
Zadia.
I don't even think they've madeit into Zadia by the end of the
season and a lot happens.
But we start to realize thatthe High Mage Viren is not as
altruistic as he seems.
He seems to be very powerhungry and opportunistic when it

(33:22):
comes to taking over the throneafter the king is supposedly
killed.
So it really throws you in onthis like power struggle, game
of Thrones type thing reallyearly on.
I would say it's a very engagingand very fun show.
It always keeps it lightheartedwith its.
You know humor and writingstyle, but you know some heavy
stuff does happen, especiallylater on in the series, that you

(33:42):
guys don't really know yet.
But its, you know humor andwriting style, but you know some
heavy stuff does happen,especially later on in the
series, that you guys don'treally know yet.
But you know we'll eventuallyhopefully get to that point.
But yeah, that's kind of abasic premise of the dragon
prince for those of you whoaren't aware right and we and we
opted to cover this whole firstseason in one episode, because

(34:05):
it really is.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
It's really easy to to talk about the entirety of
the season in one episode.
It's not extremely loreintensive in the way that, like
the rings of power, is that,that that requires?
And even like, even like,shogun, it's also short episodes
.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I think it's like 20 minutes a piece for nine
episodes.
It's like a long moviebasically that you're watching
all together.
I find it a really enjoyablelittle TV show that we don't
have to cover every single weekbecause I know that there's
seven seasons, but we can breakit up with other things.
It's something that we can fallback on easily and it's a I

(34:50):
think it's a joy to watch, youknow.
So what do you guys have, like?
I'm curious, like whatquestions are left in your minds
having watched the first season?
We'll start with rich outsideof.
You know, like what happened tothe king?

Speaker 3 (35:01):
so I guess, like I mean, seven seasons is a lot.
You know, I I don't, I can't, Imean, obviously the journey is
going to be a lot of the way.
I mean, I think so hold on,hold on.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I'll break it up.
The first three seasons are isis the the journey to bring this
dragon prince back home?
Okay, that is its own quest.
The set, the, the second set ofthree, like the seasons four
through six, apparently are likea second part or a second quest
that takes place a couple yearslater and then I I don't know

(35:36):
what season seven is.
I'm assuming it's just like awrap-up of everything yeah, like
a culmination of is that thefinal season of the different
plot threats?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
yeah, yeah, but I'm sorry, go ahead so I just, I,
you know, I I wonder how it'sgoing to kind of keep our
attention.
I, I just feel like one.
The world is very I don't knowhow to put it the the world
works right, but I think it'salso a very tired world in that

(36:04):
you, you know, it's your basic.
I mean it's very much like itfeels like it's Avatar, but in
Lord of the Rings, so you evenhave the elemental forces kind
of right going on there, butthen it's just in your high
fantasy element of you knowmedieval times, you know
medieval times.
I do like that.

(36:24):
I don't feel, you know likeGame of Thrones is like well,
american accent.
That can't work for this timeperiod.
I mean, I know there's dragons,but only the British know about
that, you know.
So everyone's got like somesort of an accent, whereas here,
I mean you have the elves withtheir Scottish accents, which I
just I love, I do like that.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
there's just also like American sounding dudes,
you know because, yeah, you knowyeah, I mean I most, most of
the humans, have an Americanaccent, so that that is
definitely not the norm for mostfantasy.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
You know I do like that you bring up the fact that
the elves have like the Scottishaccent, because I don't think
I've ever seen that before in mylife and it's interesting, it's
usually the dwarves Right,exactly.
The dwarves usually have thattype of accent.
So having some type of elf thatspeaks like that it was, it was

(37:22):
like a, you know, aninteresting take and like it's
not anything like I hated, likeafter a while, like you, you
just get used to it yeah, youdon't even hear it after a
little bit, but I I will say thefirst time I watched it I like
okay, so they're playing on thetropes a little bit.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
You know, like doors are the ones that are always
given the Scottish accents, butnow it's the, you know, the
elegant elves are now given likea very like thick Scottish
brogue and it's a very funparadigm shift in that in that
respect.
So I like that right.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Well, well, you know, these elves are kind of like,
they kind of remind me of thedrow.
You know like they're okay,they're not like a wood elf,
they're not a high elf, they're,you know, like dark elves.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I mean, they're called moon shadow elves yeah,
so there are different types ofelves that you'll eventually
encounter throughout the,throughout the series okay, cool
and I I will say they don't allhave a scottish accent well, do
we get any elegant soundingdwarves?
I'm trying to think if thereare dwarves I don't know, as as

(38:29):
of season five, I don't thinkdwarves, dwarves exist.
I think it's just humans andelves in this world but, I could
be, I, I might just not havegotten dwarves always get the
short end of the stick rightprobably due to their height.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Sorry guys that's okay.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
What did you guys think of some of the humor?
I know that for me one of themost disarming things was the
humor, disarming in a good way.
There were certain things orscenes that I was just like this
is kind of silly, but the humoris making up for things that in

(39:09):
my head otherwise I'd be likethis doesn't really make any
sense, things that, like in myhead I'm otherwise I'd be like
this doesn't really make anysense, but the humor gives it
that edge that changes the waythat I experience the scene.
So there's aunt amaya, which is, you know, she's like a warrior
woman, she's the aunt of callumand ezran, the princes, and
she's deaf.
She eventually, you know, tasksher assistant.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I think his name is corporal glenn or gren or I
think she like makes him acommander yes, commander,
commander gren, I believe hisname is.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
She makes him.
Yeah, commander gren, sorry.
She sends him on a quest to bethe head in in a search for the
kids and as soon as she leaves,he's imprisoned.
And so it's like oh sorry,commander, grant bad news,
you're off the hunt.
And he's just like but I'msupposed to be leading it.

(40:02):
And then the next scene is himjust like, chained up in the
dungeon and my favorite part ofthat scene.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
It was like oh, if you want to talk about it, we
can meet at like nine o'clock,yeah.
And then the next scene he'slike in the, he's in the dungeon
.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yeah, dude yeah he's, he says like he's, so that
works with he goes.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
That works with my schedule dude, I know and I'm
like, bro, like this guy isobviously like acting very like
nefarious and kind of like youknow that he's up to no good,
like he makes it very obviousthat he's up to no good and so
like the humor in that thatmoment it like I'm like it's

(40:45):
like this guy is just like hejust got pulled off of this this
, you know search and rescue,you know just out of nowhere,
and he's like, oh, if you wantto talk about it, you can meet
with me, like obviously, andlike somewhere, like sick, like
in a dark alley at midnight.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
You basically like dude hello, that.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
That's like.
That's an invitation to getshanked.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
You know like come on so I love that throughout the
season, like the rest of theseason after the fact, he's just
kind of like a recurringcharacter in the dungeon and
whenever Viren goes to likevisit his elf prisoner, whenever
he leaves, like, there's alittle interaction with
Commander Gren and my favoriteis, you know, he's trying to

(41:27):
like get the elf to eat thefruit and he leaves.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
And Gren goes.
I'd like some elf fruit it waslike zadian.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
It was like a zadian uh citrus and he was like trying
to get him to eat it and likewhen he leaves he's like, oh,
I'd like to try zadian citrus.
And he just like completelyignores him.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Dude, yeah, yeah, yeah that that, that part had
got me too let's talk about someof the characters, because you
know there's a there's a lot ofgreat characters in the show.
There's Callum, who is who isone of the main characters that
you're following throughout thecourse of the series, played by
Jack DeSena, who also voicesSokka in Avatar, the Last
Airbender, and there's hisyounger brother or younger

(42:11):
half-brother, or no, nothalf-brother.
He's not like blood related toezran, but he's a stepbrother
and, yeah, ezran is, he's nextin line for the throne the, the
young prince, because he's adirect line to king harrow, and
the two of them have such afunny almost like they reminded
me of the two brothers in overthe garden wall oh yes and greg

(42:36):
yes well, because callum is alittle bit more straightforward,
even though he jokes a littlebit, and ezran is just
completely, you know, uh, a kid,he's, he's just a kid, you know
a kid with, instead of like, alike, instead of a frog that he
carries around, it's a glow toad.

(42:56):
So I don't know if that was areference to Over the Garden
Wall, but it reminded me of Overthe Garden Wall quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, I liked that they named him Bait and they had
a whole explanation why theynamed him Bait it's because he's
delicious, apparently.
Yeah, apparently they're usedfor bait.
Explanation why they named himbait it's because he's delicious
, apparently.
Yeah, yeah, like, like,apparently they're used for bait
and like they don't want him togo into water because he
doesn't know how delicious he ishe doesn't know, he can't know.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
What do you guys think about the magic system so
rich?
You mentioned that there weresix elemental powers, basically.
So there's the power of the sun, the moon, the stars, the earth
, the water.
So I think they call it theland, the ocean and the sky.
I think they avoid using Avatar, the Less Airbender terminology

(43:49):
.
So, instead of fire, it's sun,instead of air, it's sky,
instead of earth it's land, andinstead of, you know, fire, it's
sun instead of scott, insteadof air, it's sky, instead of
earth it's land, and instead ofwater it's ocean.
Something like that which I likebut yeah you know, I think
everyone watching this who hasalready watched avatar the last
airbender is just like oh okay,real clever guys, uh and it
seems like they have like someother other elements.

(44:13):
Well, I don't know elements,but like you know that there's
like definitely some somethinggoing on with the moon too so
yeah, that's, that's one of thesix primal elements the moon and
the moon shadow elves taketheir power from the moon yeah
which kind of is a similarconcept to something that they
had an avatar?

Speaker 1 (44:31):
yeah, with the waterbenders.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, they were strongest during full moons.
But this takes it kind of tothe next level where they're
basically like invisible andinvincible.
So I thought that was neat, ifyou guys ever saw.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
There's a book named Angels and Demons.
It was also a movie with DanBrown, yeah, so he also wrote
Digital Fortress and it'sessentially it.
It's like angels and demons,but with, like computer ciphers
instead of, like you know, the,the scroll codes that they had
in angels and in that series andit.

(45:06):
This gives me the same vibesthat like it's very.
You know, if you were a fan ofthe first one, you're, you know
you're into it and you're likeyou know you guys got some stuff
.
But if you, I think, if you kindof just roll with it and don't
yeah because if you startfighting it or if you start
trying to pick it apart, I thinkthat's that's where you'll kind

(45:27):
of get in the weeds with it.
But if you just kind of like,let let yourself go, I I think
it's really enjoyable so withthis magic system.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
It's interesting because humans aren't given the
ability naturally to learn thesix primal elements.
So supposedly a thousand yearsago there was a human mage who
discovered dark magic, which isbasically like you suck the life
force out of other livingthings to use their power as a

(46:00):
new, seventh form of magiccalled dark magic, and it's
obviously like super evil andcorrupting and you get some
glimpse.
You know, viren, like lookingextra creepy during some points
of this season because he's justso corrupted by this dark magic
and you can even use it to likere-energize yourself, like

(46:20):
there's a scene where he useslike this glowing butterfly to
basically rejuvenate hisoriginal human form.
Look and it's.
It's really creepy.
And you see eventually, if youguys continue watching the show,
that it does corrupt you inother ways, physically.
So I think that that's prettysweet.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
And then it was interesting that Callum uses
this, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
The Primal Stone, yeah, the.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Primal Stone.
You know Palantir thing, youknow that has like a storm.
I thought it was really cool ithad like a storm in it like a
storm trapped inside right rightand and, like you could hear
the lightning, and, and it wascool because, like that was that
, that was what the like powerswere, that that, um, like you

(47:07):
know, the winds, the electricityyeah, so that that primal stone
was specifically a sky primalstone.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
So the powers of the sky is what he is capable of
controlling when he's using thatas a conduit, because otherwise
humans don't have that abilityto use.
You know magic at all, unlessyou're using dark magic.
Basically, I think that that'sa cool touch to the series that
you know.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
It kind of limits your main characters just a
little bit and they have to uselike a draconic to actually
complete the spell too, whichwas really cool yeah that, I
think that's pretty sweet yeah,I had.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
What's her name?
Vibes?
Uh, am I can't?
I can't.
Now I'm losing her nameDaenerys Stormborn when he's
like Jacaerys at the.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Okay, yeah, and I was like oh.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Jacaerys, I was like nice.
You know, I even with Callum Igot a.
Did you guys ever watch Merlin?

Speaker 2 (48:05):
The baby's version.
I watched like an episode ortwo.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
All right.
So this was like a, I'd sayearly on in our relationship.
This was like slightly a test.
I was like I'm really into thisand Lauren got into it with me
and I kind of see a lot ofCallum in that kind of like this
bumbling but powerful, you knowmage type who's learning the
ropes, as it were.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Okay, yeah, and there is a lot of that you you know
like, because he doesn't know.
He's literally just copyingwhat he saw claudia do.
He saw two spells that claudiadid and that becomes his two
spells for the whole season andit works.
You know like it works for him.
That's all he needs is like theability to like blow like extra
hard wind and zap some people.
So I thought that was.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
That was pretty cool I like that, that moment where
he's like sleeping and like so,like earlier in the season,
callum and and claudia have likean interaction where she uses
like you know, like a, you knowlike a light breeze, and you
know she, she mentions likesomething like oh, can you like

(49:10):
smell the peanut butter?
He's like, oh, is that part ofthe spell?
He's like, no, that's what Iate.
And then he's like sleeping.
And then he he's like, yeah, Ican still smell the peanut
butter.
And then his brother and ezranlike confronts him about it,
like hey, what, like what wereyou dreaming about?
He's like, oh, I was dreamingabout you know.
They're like, yeah, he was likeyou're talking about peanut

(49:32):
butter.
He's like, yeah, sandwiches,dude.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
When you're older.
When you're older, I'll have anice long talk about sandwiches
to you.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Ezra is so confused, oh my gosh.
Yeah, but yeah, let's talk alittle bit about Rayla.
Like I, you know she's she's aninteresting character.
You know she's an interestingcharacter.
You know she's obviously a moonelf that doesn't really want to
harm people and you see itearlier in the season.
You know, like there's a momentwhere she could have killed
somebody, but she opted not to.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
She's an assassin who's never killed.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Right, right, and they do this oath where they
like, wrap this it's like aribbon around their arms or
around you know wherever theirarm, their wrist or whatever and
they have to complete whateveroath, or it's just going to keep
on squeezing until that partjust gets dies and falls right

(50:29):
exactly and it sounds terriblelike.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
It sounds like so painful for real.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
And you know she was like completely like prepared,
like you know, throughout thethe season for this to happen,
like she was, like you know I'mglad, like I didn't kill, like
her task was to kill ezranobviously she didn't.
And you know she's fullyprepared and you know we have
that moment where we get thedragon prince.

(50:56):
You know, hatches from his eggand you know I'm I'm assuming
that, like dragon magic is thestrongest because, like nothing,
nothing could have like brokenthis.
She, she's tried cutting it offwith her blades.
She found somebody had a sunblade that she tried to use.
Yeah, that was really cool,that it was almost like a.

(51:18):
It was that's like a lightsaber, essentially.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
You know and yeah, the sunforged blade.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yeah, I thought it was really cool and, like that,
couldn't do anything, but thedragon prince was able to bite
it off and I thought that wasreally cool and you know I was
wondering how they were going togo about that.
Like you know, I obviously atsome point they were going to
find a way for us for this tocome out or for her to cut it
off, and it was cool that thathappened yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
So I really did like rayla as a character, because
she was conflicted she doesn'twant to hurt callum and Ezran
and she was withholdinginformation from them for a
while, because I think she does,you know, pretty, pretty early
on, consider them friends yeahthe truth of why she's there was
clearly burdening her so, likethe idea that she needed to kill

(52:08):
king or prince Ezran yeah wasone of the bindings that until
he was dead that binding wasgoing to continue constricting
her.
So the other binding that shehad on her other hand is
interesting because it did goaway as soon as king harrow
supposedly died.
We didn't see his death, but assoon as king harrow died the
binding on that wrist came offand she has yet to tell ezrin

(52:33):
and callum that their parent hasdied at this point right and
like she knew it, because,remember, when that one arrow
was shot, that was what wasattached to it was the fallen,
the like, that fallen ribbon ofyes, yes so yes.
So she definitely knew that thathad been done and also, like

(52:55):
the ribbon fell off of her rightright, that one of them.
So yeah, she's just holdingthat and it's probably eating
away at her.
I'd assume you know it'sbecause you've made two and and
a glowing frog friend and you,you want to.
You don't want hurt them, butyou know that you have to
continue by their side if youwant this quest to succeed.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
What did you guys think of the last couple
episodes where they go up to thecursed caldera and meet up with
that one girl I forget her name.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I think her wolf was named Ava.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
That sounds right yeah wolf was named ava.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
That sounds right, yeah, but there was definitely
some deep lessons that werebeing taught, you know, in this
like and which, which is, I mean, something that that you're
obviously gonna get in showslike this, you know, especially
geared towards, like, a youngeraudience.
Like you know, I rememberthere's a moment between you
know, her and calum, and youknow I remember there's a moment
between you know, her andCallum and you know, talking
about, like you know, they built.
They were talking about thestone and he was like, oh, you
know, I really can't do anythingwithout the stone.

(54:01):
Like, you know, I'm nothing,and you know she's like, oh well
, I think that you would bepretty great with or without it.
You know, and I like it whenshows have that stuff.
You know Avatar had that a lot.
I like it when shows have thatstuff you know avatar had that a
lot and when there's a a lessonlike that to be told, I think
that, no matter what age you are, that's something that needs to
be heard.
And, yeah, like, I thought thatthey were really good.

(54:23):
It was interesting.
There was a lot of humor inthose.
Those last couple episodes,especially with you know, they
come against those like illusionmonsters and they, uh well,
except for that slug, I don'tthink that slug thing was that
that definitely was not anillusion, but that I don't know
about that actually.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I mean, yeah, it was they.
They claimed by the end that,you know, everything that we saw
and faced was an illusion, butI don't think I think you're
right like that seemed a littletoo real and it was too much of
a threat, and they actually diddefeat it.
You know, like they cut it openand, and you know, then there
was a whole bunch of little babyslugs and then there was that

(55:04):
whole, yeah, that whole likemonster that was killed by a two
and the blood was sucked out.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
So I I think that that was real but, like the
spider, obviously, was anillusion.
So the wolf ava, there was athing that happened when it was
younger.
It was its paw was like cut orit was, uh, crushed in a trap
and they ended up having to cutthat limb off, and so, like you

(55:31):
know, while this wolf was young,it was brought over, you know,
up into the, the cursed caldera,and so you know this whole time
.
You know the elf I forgot hername she, the illusionist elf
yeah, that she's a.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
She's also a moonshadow right, right.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
And so, like you know , she gave off the idea that she
healed the whole arm of thiswolf and you know there was like
this, like stone around theneck.
Well, you know, we come to findout that like that leg was not
real at all, like it was justthat you know the wolf didn't
need that leg there andobviously you know that wolf

(56:12):
knew that there was no leg therethe whole time.
You know.
Yeah, that wolf was a liar Wolfwas playing along.
Well, no, the wolf told Ezran.
The wolf told Ezran that, likethere was no healer, Remember.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Yeah, okay, you're right, you're yeah like so they?

Speaker 1 (56:30):
that was actually like a little bit of an
interesting take too, that ezranhas this connection with
animals and can like kind ofunderstand and speak to them
yeah, and that's actually youknow.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
You can see that, even like in the beginning of
the show, not only because, likehe's attached to the glow toad
bait, but when they first get intouch and like hold on to the
egg, they can ezran,specifically, can tell that it's
doing well or it's not doingwell.
He can feel it immediately.
So that was a cool touch, rich.

(57:02):
What did you feel about that?
Cursed caldera.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
We got to see kind of the more magic elements,
probably because of the lack ofthat, that that kind of dividing
line or the guarding of the,the area.
So I for me, you know, lookinginto season two, I'm expecting
to see more magical creatures Iguess you know something that
kind of dances there, morebecause we spent a lot of time

(57:29):
in the human half of the worldand now it's, you know, I'm
expecting to see a lot of timein the human half of the world
and now it's, you know, I'mexpecting to see a lot more of
that magic in there.
I want to see how I'm hopingthat in season two they do
something.
I want to see what they'regoing to do with the whole
dragons.
You know, like dragons havebeen, I love it.

(57:50):
Look, I'm going to be clear Ilove dragons.
So you know, if there's adragon look, look, I'm gonna be
clear I love dragons.
So you know, if there's adragon in something, I'm
generally a huge fan of it, so Idon't even really care as much.
But I would like to see how thedragons are going to exist in
this world, right, becausethey're so often that that power
that eventually could fall intothe wrong hands and the good

(58:12):
guy is trying to make sure thatdoesn't, and I hope it's.
I don't want the story just tobe like viren trying to get his
hands on the dragon princebecause he's the nuclear bomb,
essentially right I get it.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Yeah, because that's everywhere.
You know, we see that so manytimes.
There is definitely more thanjust the dragon prince and the,
you know his mother.
There's more dragons in thisworld than just those two, so
he's not the end-all, be-allweapon for the humans.
Basically, I'm talking aboutthe, the dragon prince, here,
but but yeah, that's, that's agood, it's an interesting, like

(58:48):
I don't know if it's aprediction, but it's like a
desire, like that's somethingthat you want to see is just
more dragons and how theyinteract with society and how
they show their power.
And, yeah, is there anythingthat you want to see moving
forward, anthony?

Speaker 1 (59:03):
I definitely want to see more, more of those stones,
like I want to see, you know,the I I'd like to see calum kind
of come into his own a littlebit more and, like you know,
utilizing those like.
I mean obviously, like he likedestroyed the one that he had.
But right obviously that's notgoing to be the only one that
they come across.

(59:24):
At least I hope not right.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
So we know that he is , you know, adept at magic, and
you know he has never reallyactively studied it, but as soon
as he gets his hand on theability to do it, he does it
pretty well decently right rightso that's a good, I guess,
guess as to what is coming next.
What do you guys feel aboutclaudia and soren, the son and

(59:49):
daughter of viren, who are nowtasked to you?
He tasks Sorin.
Basically, you got to kill theprinces.
He doesn't say that openly, butyou have to come back with the
news that the princes are dead.
And with Claudia, he tasks herto at all costs get the egg,
even if your brother's life isat risk.

(01:00:10):
So they're both given morallychallenging tasks.
How do you feel that they willfare, and or whether or not they
will have the guts to gothrough with whatever it was
asked of them?

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
I think it's for me, claudia's, I don't know.
It's weird.
I almost think she's the leastlikely actually to bring harm
upon them.
But she could also be what getscallum to lower his guard
because he's got a crush on her,whereas soren is all about duty
and honor.
You know, he was even see, butthat's interesting because he

(01:00:48):
questions his father at onepoint, I remember, where he just
doesn't believe that it's theright thing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
So, you know, I think yeah, I don't think either of
them are bad people you knowthey're, they're.
You know, soren is very muchlike a machismo kind of guy,
where he's, he's always, youknow, just like he's kind of a
bully a little bit, but thatdoesn't necessarily make you a
bad person, just makes you.
You've just gone astray a littlebit and with claudia she's, you

(01:01:16):
know she has just, or I don'tknow if she's just, but you know
she's tapped into dark magic.
So there's a little bit of likeevil there, even though she's
outwardly, you know, pretty andfunny and she's always like
giggling and happy.
So it's kind of like is theremore like evil there than we've?
Seen yet or not, you know like,and that's kind of how I feel

(01:01:38):
about claudia at this point.
What about you, anthony?

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
it's definitely would be interesting to see if she
does go down, like you know, adark path.
I mean I guess it could happenin a way where her and callum
kind of face off and you knowit's.
It's definitely a conflictbecause you know there's, you
know, some sort of like feelingsthere, you know at least

(01:02:03):
one-sided.
You know he feels something,but I'm not 100% sure that that
Soren would.
I don't think he would causeany harm.
You know there is a thatcloseness there.
It's tough to to say I meanthey're both, I mean you know
even claudia, you know they bothsay that their father said some

(01:02:25):
stuff that was, you know, maybemorally questionable, you know,
so it's.
I don't think that they're.
Yeah, I just I, I just don'tknow, like I don't think that
they would actually go down thatpath.
But we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
We'll see.
We'll see.
Okay, what did you guys thinkoverall of the first season?
Rich, we'll start with you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
I think I was really helped by the fact that we were
going to do a podcast on it.
At one point you mentioned thisidea that it's charming and
it's nice, but it doesn't reallygrab you right, I think on my
first watch through.
And, mind you, I mean I thinkI've mentioned this before but
like pandemic has ruined meforever and I two screen stuff

(01:03:10):
way too much, you know.
So I found myself quickly andand because the episodes feed
into them into each other soquickly that I just I kind of
sat down one afternoon, threw iton and it was like bloop gone
and I was like whoa and I neededto do a re-watch, to kind of
reprocess.
I actually did like a littlejump just to kind of get my

(01:03:34):
names down again before I did mysecond watch.
Then it kind of, you know,again, it was just I got to see
a lot more, I got to unpack morelayers and get more into it.
But I think that if I hadn't,like if we were doing this show,
I probably watched one seasonand been like, ah, okay, it's
cool, you know, and I'm not sureif I would have jumped into a

(01:03:55):
second one.
I mean, I have betrayed myfamily.
They heard me talking about itand they were.
You know, my charlie lovesavatar and so does lauren, so
they were.
Oh, we can't wait to watch itwith you, but they waited too
long, so probably gonna have todo another season one with them
before we go into it okay, youknow, then I get to kind of beat

(01:04:15):
the kind sage on the journey,you know where they're like wait
what happened?
the kind sage on the journey,you know where they're like.
Wait what happened to the king?
And I'm like, don't worry, guys, nobody's supposed to know yeah
, anthony, what are yourthoughts?

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
you said that early on you weren't totally grabbed
but you got, you were.
You kind of got the vibe of theshow by episode five or so yeah
how do you feel now about thewhole first season?

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
the first season.
You know it's pretty goodthere's.
You can tell that there's a lotmore story to be told, a lot of
it, like you said, you knowit's so easy to cover or, like
you said, it like how theepisodes are like super fast,
you know, maybe like 20 minutes,maybe less.
If you skip, you skip a lot ofthe stuff in the beginning, the

(01:05:00):
intro and whatnot.
But it's good, I enjoyed it,but I feel like it's going to
get better.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Oh, yeah, and.
I think, that that is like asolid guess because, just from
my experience, the show buildson itself and so many of the
characters that you grow toenjoy become characters that you
grow to love, and I think theyadd new dynamics every season.
So I'm excited to.
I don't know if we're coveringthis next season, like next week

(01:05:30):
or sometime down the line, butyeah, I'm excited to eventually
cover that.
Speaking of which, what are wecovering next week?
Do you want to continue withdragon prince?
I have no problem with that,but if you guys have another
idea in mind, I'm okay with thatI don't know, do you have
anything rich?

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
I mean I, I I threw something out there, but you
know it's up to you oh, we, wecould do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
We could do what you wanted to do.
I know that you said that youwanted to do marvel rivals and
actually this would probably bea good week to do that, because
I'm off of work so I can startplaying that.
You know, on my downtime, alittle bit more than I would
have normally yeah I could playthere there's also.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Well, it's also a good time because you're getting
you're getting the rest of thefantastic four dropping in on
friday oh snap yeah, we'regetting human torch and the
thing cool rich are you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
are you cool with getting out of your comfort zone
a little bit and playing alittle Marvel Rivals?

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Yeah, I'll dive into the deep end of exposing myself
to the internet.
Oh no, I mean, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Oh no, he's going to be addicted, anthony, he's going
to be absolutely addicted.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Can I be honest with you guys?
My real fear, you can be honest.
Yeah, so there was marvel.
Was it called?
Maybe it was marvel heroes 2015.
It was like a pc game and I Ithink it was rival.
Oh yeah, I think it wasrival-esque, although you could.
It had this whole one playermode.
But I remember at one point Iwas playing it and or was it

(01:06:55):
that lauren had asked me to playless video games and we were
early on in our relationship, soI thought that meant she wanted
to use the TV and I was hoggingit.
So then I started playing thisgame and we had a giant monitor
that her mom had given us, likeit was like 26 inches or some

(01:07:18):
bullshit, right.
So when I'm behind it youcouldn't see me and I just put
my headphones on and I I start,when I start meeting people
online to like do things.
That's when I know I have toget out, right, like when I'm
like, oh shoot, it's 7 45, I'vegot gotta meet up with my group,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
And that's, I'm gonna be 100 honest with you.
As soon as I hear voices, Iturn off the voices I just want
to play the game.
I don't listen to anything I donot.
I do not want to hear anyonetalking, so I turn off the
voices immediately dude, I'm thesame way.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
The only time that I really speak with people online
is if it's like friends.
That I know and then like yeah,I'll coordinate that kind of
way in full.
And now you're talking abouthere marvel heroes was like it
was like diablo yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
And you know like I really got into that.
So I mean, I guess if you could, if I don't have to hear their
voices, I think I can, I thinkyou don't yeah it's a choice.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
You can just do your thing, old thing toggle it off.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
So so that's what we'll do, guys.
Next week, we're going to becovering the new game that's
been shaking up the overwatchscene marvel rivals yeah, which
yeah, we'll talk.
You've probably heard about it,you've probably seen it online,
so we'll.
We'll talk more about what itis and how it works next week.
But yeah, thanks so much forlistening to us here on our
110th episode of ProjectGeekology.

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Or a veggie burger if that'smore of your speed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
A sizzling veggie burger.
I've never heard of that, butI'm sure they have existed at
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You know it's, it's.
It's a bizarre system, but it's, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
I'm excited it does a better job at breaking
something down than we are.
Yeah, what's?

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You know bite-sized stuff, butsometimes what it actually says
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