Episode 409 - P1 ADP Top 200 Prospect Breakdown

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P1ADP Top 200 Prospect ADP Breakdown 📊

➡️ Prospect Top 12 ADP

➡️ Prospects highs vs lows

➡️ FYPD Order

➡️ All Industry drafted prospect list

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
In this league podcast that work present Prospect one. So
Fantasy prospect podcast Prospect What with your host Chris Wells.
This is the Fantasy Baseball prospect podcast. This is Prospect one.
Hello friends, I'm your host Chris Welsh, who you can

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find on Twitter at is it the Welsh same as
the Instagram and of course overt in this league dot Com.
Important for this week's episode because today we are talking
about the P one ADPs. Those are multiple drafts that
I do with industry people and people that are in
my prospect Patreon where we do a bunch of drafts,

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all prospects, and then we create an ADP out of it.
Those have been completed, and this episode is going to
be breaking down some of the unique stats, if you will,
from the P one ADP. We're going to be talking
about what the top twelve consensus prospects look like. We
are going to be hit on some very interesting names
that were like just outside the one fifty that might
be some deals. We are going to go through the

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highs and lows. There are some players that had these
really big wide ranges, so I'm going to be kind
of focusing on those. Some of the biggest drops from
the last draft I did in February. What the P
one ADP says about the first year player drafts and
the all industry team. I have six players that were
drafted exclusively by industry people, so you know the whether

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it's like Chris Kleggs or James Anderson's or Jeff Ponce,
Matt Eddie Bunch more, everybody in those drafts drafted these
players and we have six of them. So that is
the structure of the breakdown today. And if you want
access to the P one ADPs, you want access to
my Top five hundred Prospects dynasty in this League dot com,
go and check it out today in this League dot

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com that's my Patreon. You can sign up. I very
much appreciate your support helps me do everything that I'm
doing here. But also you get access to the rank
updates which are once a month, and probably this is
going to be posted on Tuesday, so Wednesday morning we
should have the update up of the prospects of the
dynasty and this pe ADP. I've also got first year
Player on there. We have group me rooms, which is
like Discord in the prospect world. It's very very cool.

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Everybody is talking prospects all the time. Plus we've got
you know, normal baseball and everything. So come and check
it out today in this league dot com support over
at in this League dot Com. So that's going to
be the fun structure. You know, this usually would have
been kind of an end of season stuff. Is the
regular seasons coming to a close for I want to
stay up to double A. We already had like the
single and high as. But probably next week we may

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do either an episode breaking down the end of the
year of the minor leagues, or we'll go back into
doing like kind of a roundtable of this. But this
is a really fun thing to do at the end
of the season. Maybe even like the best structure of
when I've done it right, at the end of the year,
you kind of have everything, You've got all the drafted players.
This is a really really good outlook to valuations through

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the off season. But we all know the Arizona Fall
League is going to have some effects on it. You know,
we've got the number one or two overall prospect in there.
There's you know, a bunch of guys ranging into the
top one hundred. There are some players that could improve
their values across the board. Like, so, you know, the
Arizona Fall League is going to have some alterations to
the value, for better or for worse. You know, the

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worse has been the Jacob Marcis, but that's turned into better,
you know, Jelsway Persino. You know, the Arizona Fall League
has a bunch of really cool stuff. But this is
a really good representation of what the off season valuation
is going to look like. So this is going to be,
you know, a lot of fun to break down and
some stuff I wouldn't have expected, you know, especially with

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like the variations of players really gets me where I
see the highs and lows being like dramatic, and I
tried to set some standards to the players I picked,
but that should be a ton of fun. Not going
to get into all the craziness of the end of
the season or anymore Arizona Fall League stuff, but I
will tell you a cool thing that I got to do.
And if you follow me on Instagram, you definitely saw
it was this weekend saw that there was a Perfect

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Game tournament. I still sometimes I don't understand all that
there's a gajillion different tournaments, but Roger Clemens was out
there and it was a funny moment. So I went
out you get to see Roger was like a coach,
kind of a coach, you know. I think he's there
for one game, and just kind of hanging out with
him and his son, Casey Clemens were out there and
got to meet Roger after, which is super cool. I mean,

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you know, growing up like that's the dude. And I
was having this moment where I was also thinking, like
do all these kids like really know Roger, Like they
probably don't, you know, cause it's like I think fourteen
to eighteen, they were like a couple different tournaments going on.
I think there's like some conceptual stuff of it, but
like no one has like a real understanding of like
growing up when Roger was like you know, Roger and Pedro,

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like those were the dudes, you know, the Randy and
there of course, but the big guy. So it's like
a big deal, super nice guy. Maybe surprisingly I think
some people, because I had multiple people ask me They're like, oh,
was he nice? And I was like, you know, what
actually was? It was a cool dude, kind of a
very California vibe to him. As people were coming up
and taking pictures, he took a lot of time. But
I had this very funny moment where I was kind

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of standing as actually standing next to Roger. I'd given
him something, and there's this dude that was saying there
kind of seemed like a bodyguard ends up. He was
like the dad of a kid there, but I think
kind of helping out. And I'm standing next to Clemens
and this guy looks over at me. He goes, you're
the Welsh and I'm like, what, like he took me back.
I'm like, how do you know that name? And fantasy guy?

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So shout out to us, to my dude, Shout out
to my dude who called me out in front of Roger.
Roger kind of looked over, you know, cause it's funny
because everybody's like giving their attention to Clemens and he's like,
don't I know you? And I'm like, I guess you do,
because you do fantasy. If I'm going to be called
out in a place, it's always going to be in
some baseball setting. And shout out to Adam for the
call out there. But you know, I hadn't been out

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much seeing anything, and it is so funny saying like
perfect game ball too. It's very the picture got him
forgetting his name. He was starting. They had a lot
of cameras and stuff they were doing this picture's only stuff.
But you know, he had a really good secondary pitch,
but had really good velo but no command. You kind
of forget the messiness, like I'm used to rookie ball,
but you forget the workings of like you know, tournament

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like travel ball and like you know, outfielders dropping ball.
You just forget the messiness of it. So I thought
it was interesting. There were just like a you know,
Roger and Casey were out there and just kind of
you know, taking in the tournament that was right down
the street for me, which was pretty cool. And it
also reignites because this is a weird time because I'm
so inundated into football and you have preparation of the

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ares on a fall leg. I hadn't really been out
in a couple of weeks and just being like, oh
my god, I need to get back out. I want
to get to instructs. Instructs is going on out here,
probably on the East Coast as well. It's a crap show.
Schedules are weird. You don't know who's going to be
out there, seems to be a lot of rookie ball
guys right now, We're gonna probably have a little bit

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of like low A maybe some HIGHA guys getting into games.
I mean, the biggest one that I need to see
is Josh War Gonzalez is out here and he has,
for all intentsive purpose, has looked phenomenal. That's a guy
that you know, maybe going back here, let's take a look.
We'll give you where the general range at least where
Yoswar was, because he's come out he said it inside
the park. Homer Bat looks live. I mean, like pro body.

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He's top seventy five in this, and you know, if
there was a little bit more public information, I wouldn't
be surprised if it went further. This is a guy
I think that's going to continue to go. I'm gonna
try to get some video might have been a little
bit undersold in this. I tried to target him in
one of the drafts and I missed out on him.
And as a matter of fact, only one of the
industry drafters ended up getting him, and they paid the

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highest cost. That was Jeff Ponce. But a lot of
positive reports out but you know that's instructs. It's weird,
you know, there's not like a ton going on, but
there are some of these rookies, you know, I've heard,
like you know, there's some solid Lowa Hia guys that
might be coming out and they play a few games,
which leads into the Arsenal Fall League. So I need
more of it, going out and meet and rocket out there.

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Kind of reinvigorated. How much I need to get back
out to a few more games. So try to get
to some instructs before the Arizona Fall League goes. If
you missed it, you can check out. I had the
Prediction show, but I had the breakdown show the last
episode Arizona Fall League Breakdown, bringing down all the guys,
all the rosters. So hopefully you guys go and check
that out. All right, let's take a break. When we
come back, let's start breaking down the P one ADPs,

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all the little stats in it. And of course in
this league, dot com is where you can just see
the full sheet. You can do a lot of this yourself,
but these are just some of the interesting things I
always do breaking down what the top two hundred prospect
ADP looks like. Shay, I like you I like you
so much, I'm gonna make you my partner. All he
has to do is find the gold and I'll share

(08:42):
it with you. Fifty to fifty prospect all right, Prospect
ONEADP in this league dot com. That's where you can
check it out. I've got like the old sheets just
for fun. It's more for funzies. If you guys want
to go and check those out. You can see, like,
you know, the I think a twenty twenty one. I
think it goes back to you can see what some
of them look like. Sometimes there's two or three. This

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year is a little bit different because the data is
comparison from February to September, and I completely acknowledge, like
that's a pretty big gap. But one of the things
I'm also learning is unless they were to do this
every single month, like, it's always just going to be
more valuable, what the newest one is like, that's the value.
That's what is like. That's how this is separated is

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by the newest But what's interesting is you can see
valuation changes or lack of changes when you look and
compare to the February one. An entire minor league season
has gone by, so like what really did change? What
didn't change? You know, there's inherent changes by players, you know,
falling off the list and kind of moving up. But
you know, I would actually tell you surprisingly inside the

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top let's say fifteen, there's a lot of single digit movement.
And what I'm saying is like from February to September,
there's only like two spots difference. Now there's one guy
who has the biggest movement because he wasn't on boards,
and the top two guys had a thirty spot difference,
but they were still inside the top fifty. But it

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just kind of can show you maybe, like you know,
how players have held value. So again, this is like
tons of industry guys, A bunch of great people took
part in this. I got Frank stamfle Scott White, Eric Cross,
James Anderson, Matt Eddie, Jesse Severe, who sets it up?
I don't know if I said, Clegg Blessing, Jesse Roach,
Alex Jensen. I'm seeing if I can kind of see

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them all, Tim Kannak, Matt Eddie, Matt Thompson, Martin Sakolski.
Who else could I be mentioning? I know Beck was
in there. I think if I got. If I forgot somebody,
now I'm gonna feel awful. I always see Kys in there.
Bogs ended up jumping in and doing some I think

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Nate was in there. Nate didn't really raise his hand
in any of it, but I think he was in there.
I mean, we had the dudes, so if I forgot somebody,
I will feel horrible and have trouble sleeping at night.
But we had tons of industry guys, and then we
had like just the awesome itl members, which you know,
like I've always said, my boy Dan Fu I consider.
I actually put Dan Fou in like the like the

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industry here because I think he's like one of the
top dynasty players out there, so I almost kind of
consider him. But there's lots of people I've seen that
have done these for years, some new people that are
in there. The bottom line is this is constructed with
people that have dynasty and prospects in mind, industry and both.
And the reason I don't just do this is all
industry is because your leagues are not all industry. Now,

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to be fair, if there was something that was going
to have the best representation of what industry people are
gonna do, it's probably this with baseball prospects, They're just
going to consume what I or Jeff Ponce or whoever does,
and they're just going to kind of follow that. And
if you have a minor league system, you're probably more
in tune. But still I like the variation of like
the people that are kind of dictating valuations and then

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the people that are drafting them, and what does that
look like? And I think this gives the best representation
instead of me just doing like one draft of like
fifteen industry people. So that's why I do it. If
you cared, I really I don't know if I've talked
about that a whole lot in you know, recent history,
but that's kind of the overall reasoning why I end
up doing that. So these are gonna be like I said,
I've I've kind of broken down my logic on what

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some of the stats are. This isn't gonna you know,
might we might not hit your player. So that's why
you want to go and check this out. But let's
get started with this. So again, we had this was
like four drafts, and you know, through and through we've
got like, you know, the industry guys. We've got some players,
and I'm gonna break that down in a little bit.
We got some players that, like you know, weren't at

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all drafted by industry, and I should give you a
lot of those stats, but let's start with the top twelve.
If you're in a twelve man league, this is what
the top twelve prospects are by valuation. Starting at number one,
he almost had unanimous One person did not take him
number one. Three other leagues took him one. Connor Griffin

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ran away with it, non surprise. He's my number one.
I know there's definitely some Kevin McGonagall, and that happened
in mock draft one. McGonagall went one, but Griffin went
one in three of the four leagues and two in
the other. Lock safe Kevin McGonagall ended up being number two,
but there was one league he did not go one,
two or three. He was the fourth player taken. Very

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surprising too, that that was gonna end up happening. I
think that was pretty easy. We figured it's gonna be
some version of Griffin and McGonagall. Griffin definitely had a
lot more of the like everyone is locking in and
I'm just gonna give you a little aside here he
is the first, Because'm gonna do this at the end
of the show, unanimously taken by industry people. I don't
know how, but somehow, you know, essentially, well, I guess

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there was one league, but three of the four leagues,
an industry person had the number one overall pick, and
then the second pick was in League one where Beck
so Beck took him, James Anderson took him, Eric Cross
and Matt Eddie all took Connor Griffin number one, and
that was all industry side fact, Kevin McGonagall was taken
by zero industry people number one in League one, and

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then two, two, and four in the other leagues, and
none of those were like, you know, our quote industry guys.
So I thought that was kind of interesting. That was
an interesting Oh, by the way, Doc, I almost I
just remember Doc was kind of a late entry into this.
Doc was another one of the industry people. I knew
I was gonna like forget, and I don't want to
forget and be like, we're a jerk. Welsh's stupid jerk,

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So shout out to him, all right. Number three Jesus
made Hazus made was kind of like Connor Griffin, and
that he went three in three leagues and then four
and one, so he was like, lockdown number three again.
I really there's no surprise, this is my top three.
With a side note, I guess I should have said
this at the beginning as well. That's a mess up
by me. I am clearly going to affect these a

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little bit. There's there's no two ways about it. My
ranks are gonna probably be a separator. So if I
am higher on somebody, there is a chance like a
guy could get pushed up. So like if people go
and look at my list and then they want to draft,
we should just acknowledge that. So there's always going to
be a lean a little bit to the players that
I like, really like, So we're just you know, have

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that as an acceptance. I'm not sure it really affected
Griffin McGonagall and made I don't think it did. But
those are the top three guys. Number four Sebastian Walcott, Uh,
he kind of had a weird range two, three, four
and five, so he ended up with the four spot,
and those four players all had a really close ADP.
The reason I say that is we do average ADP,

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so like Connor, Griffin was technically like one point three
kind of McGonagall was two point three. The difference between
Walcott and Basio, who was number five, is three spots.
So it goes one point two, two point three, three
point three, three point five for Walcott and then six
point five for visioh. So that's where things start to
open up a little bit, so Bissio. Another little caveat

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is if your prospect Eligi, that's the that's the crux here.
Did take a player two out? I'm gonna tell you
that that you know, kind of snuck in that had
prospect eligibility about to go away, but beside it was
still going to be prospect eligible at the end of
this year, so we kept him in. He came in
at number five, number six. There's a variance here Leodavrees.

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Leodavrees went as high as five and as low as thirteen,
So I thought it was very interesting, really hot into
the season, Leo Divrees. So that's your first half, your
bottom half. Luis Pania comes in at number seven. He
is the player by the way, that was like he
wasn't undrafted in our last one, but he was like
one eighty in February and he ends up in the

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top ten. This is the biggest single movere you could have.
He didn't have a crazy big variance. I took him,
by the way. I got the best value on Paenia
at eleven. He went six, seven and eight. In the
other ones, c K took him, Matt Thompson took him
as well. Number eight, JJ Weatherhold Jji Weatherhold another kind
of variance. Between five and twelve. He was taken by

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three industry people, Clegg Martin and Tim Kannak. Max Clark
went nine. That could be one of those. That's a
little bit of an influence to me. But Alex Jensen
took him at eight. Travis Bozana went at ten. I
got the second best value on him. I took him
on the wheel. He went as high as four and
as low as twenty one. Bryce Eldridge, who just got

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called up, was number eleven, and Walker Jenkins coming in
at twelve. That's your top twelve prospects through and through.
There's a pretty close gap to number thirteen and Walker
who's at twelve, but it's we're pretty locked here. The
difference between thirteen and fourteen, by the way, is another
four picks. So what I'm getting at is like there's

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some almost like a creation of tiers that kind of
happens with some of this stuff, you know what I mean,
Like the actual ADP number can be a representation of tiers.
So it's like one through four is a tier, five
through nine is a tier, ten through thirteen is a tier,
and then it changes. So that's a really cool way
if you would like to look at it. I think
this is pretty standard stuff. You know who missed. I

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think you could argue Bubba can be in there. I
think you could argue Andrew Painter, even though I know
it was a little bit of a disappointing season, he
could go in there. I mean, I think people will
make some other arguments. Edward Florentino is a fascinating one.
We'll talk about him a little bit later. I think
some people are going to want to like jolt him
in there. But I think this is a pretty like
lock Step Top twelve. The only player that I have

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in my twelve that did not make the overall twelve
was Bubba Chandler, and I would point out Bubba Chandler
just went off the other night. Bubba Chandler was, you know,
lining up to have some like no hitter. Like betting
on that fastball and him getting right is what I'm doing,
and he is. He's my tenth overall prospect and he's
the only one of my top twelve that did not

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make it. Walker Jenkins, I had a thirteen and he
ended up making it, so kind of a variance in there.
I'm down with this. I think this show's a really
good proper representation of values. I think the tier conversation
I gave you is good. I think the outliers are
Clark and Bozana for people, but Bizana had a really
good endo the season before he kind of like got
knocked back out. I think this looks great. I'm super

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happy with this, and I think this really put you
guys in a really good spot of your off season
valuation of players you should hold on to a bunch. Now,
let's jump over. I'm actually we're going to do the
highs and lows here. Let's talk about variants and then
we will talk about some of the interesting post one
fifty players. So we're going to go in groupings here.
So these are three players that have a difference of

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twelve or more spots between the highest they were drafted
and the lowest they were drafted that rank inside the
top twenty. I hope that makes sense. So this is
variance twelve spots between the high and low, but they
ranked inside the top twenty, so I kind of gave
it a low number to start with. Here the three players,
Dravis Bozana had a high a four and a low

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of twenty one. As mentioned, that's like one of the
absolute highest. I was the only well, I guess this
is Nate, So I think me and Nate were the
only ones to end up taking him. But the aggressive
winch I think this is Chris Young who might have
taken him. I think just as Young took him fourth
overall and then in Draft two he fell to twenty one.

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That's a lot of variance because I think there's just
a lot of people that don't know what to do.
You know, he's super patient at the plate, hasn't had
big loud stats, He's had the injuries. Things were quiet.
I mean, he blew up at the end as this
draft ended. Maybe had we done it today, he would
have gone up a couple spots. But I think it's okay.
I think this is right. I think the idea that
Bazona could be a first or late second round pick

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in a league. It's not unheard of if you look
at these ADPs because you don't care about startup drafts,
because you're like, I'm Mardy in one, and you want
to look at this as an evaluation chart. This is
the range of how someone could end up valuing him.
So is it crazy for you? I really do not
think it is crazy for you to value him as
a top ten or twelve prospect, because that's what the

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average comes out to. But you might have someone that says, now, dude,
he's in a break camp proximity, he's gonna be a
top five guy. And he also might have somebody that
doesn't really get excited about him and moves him down.
So Travis Bazana is one of those players for better
for worse, could be more expensive or could be a
better buy. But also just you know, you're gonna have
to understand the variants. Number two, this guy had a

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fourteen spot difference. Walker Jenkins. Walker Jenkins came in at twelve.
As I mentioned, he had a high of eight and
a low of twenty two. He was taken by two
industry guys and they, well, like I said, weren't the highest.
Chris Blessing was the highest. He took him at eight
the highest cost. Doc took him at twelve, so they

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both took him as first rounders. I guess only one
league he was not a first rounder, and that was
in League three, but he fell all the way down
to twenty two. So what's that about. Well, had League
three followed suit, you're probably looking at him being like
ten or eleven on this list and being above Bazana.
So like, so let's look here, Jenkins went in my

(22:05):
league ahead because I took Luis Pana and then I
was on I was an eleven pick, and then Doc
was twelve, so he took him in between. So Walker
went ahead of him in League one. Walker went ahead
of Bazana in League two, not in League three. In
League four they went back to back Walker. So Walker
in three of the four leagues actually went ahead of Bazana,

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but Bazana was a tiny bit more consistent and then
had that four spot that moved him up, So like
that's got super interesting, you know. And Sandwich in between
them is Bryce Eldridge, who you know, I thought he
was a lot more consistent. He's in the majors right now,
Like I think Bazanna is a better representation of like nine,
if I'm being honest with you. Uh, number three that

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moved multiple spots, moved twelve spots or more, that was
inside the top twenty Zayer Hope. And I'm not super
surprised about the Zaire Hope thing. He just kind of
taped off a little bit at the end. That was
the disappointment. Like he is a guy that could have
I think been top five based on how some of
the early stuff was going, but he kind of tapered

(23:09):
down a little bit. He ended up with a two
sixty average, still hit thirteen homers, twenty seven stolen bases,
is really nice. I think people kind of stare at
the maybe the strikeouts a little bit. He had one
hundred and forty three and one hundred and twenty seven games.
It's not great, that's not super great, but really good OBP.
He's still super young, I mean double a twenty year old.
Like shout out to Zayre Hope. I don't know if

(23:30):
I'm surprised about the variants, but I think he fell
into a spot and I struggled with this a little
bit as well. I think he kind of didn't know
what to do with him, you know, like unfortunately Zaire
to me felt like, you know, if you didn't get
a Clark or Weatherhold or or Eldridge, Because I mean
I had Eldridge at seven before this, so I'm way higher.
I had Eldridge ranked higher than anybody took him. I'm

(23:52):
taking those guys, and I want those guys. And if
you're staring at Hope, you're just kind of like, dang,
did I miss the tier? You almost don't know what
to do with him, and then you stare at you know,
major leaguer Bubba Chandler, close to major leaguer Andrew Painter.
You just kind of feel like you miss. So that's
why he is more into the late teens for me.
But I really do think a lot of people just struggled,
like what do I do with Zayer? Hope? You know,

(24:12):
the variants maybe just says the same thing. Zaire was
a first round by Zayer was a first rounder in
three of the four leagues. He just went twenty one
in the league that I was in, and that's what
kind of held him back. So maybe he is closer
to a higher teens. Maybe your league, he's a bye.
You know, maybe you got someone that's kind of cooling
on him and he might be some type of biopportunity. Okay,

(24:36):
let's now move to the top forty. This is really
like guys outside the top twenty. So this is guys
twenty to forty that had a twenty five spot or higher.
Difference between the highest they were drafted and the lowest
they were drafted. This is where things really get interesting.
I used a low number at the top just because, like,
you know, there's not like crazy variants with a lot

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of these twenty to forty. You know, there's some eliteness
in there, and then sometimes the back end of forty
can be more of you know, closer to This is
a weird thing. I'm going to say, someone that's ranked
thirty could be closer to a top ten guy than
someone ranked thirty five could be closer to someone that's
like eighty. Does that make sense how I said that.

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You know, like we all have a little bit of
a different bridge on where the gaps and the tiers start.
But that's why, like a guy that's ranked thirty or
thirty two, they could be on the other end of
the spectrum, and that's why you can see some big
variantsca so blah blah blah Welsh and start with number
one four players coming in uh, just outside the top

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twenty five Bryce Rayner, who got hurt, so I'm not surprised,
but there's still some bets on his big production. Rayner
ended up having a high of fourteen and a low
of thirty nine. That's a pretty that's a pretty big
gap for someone that's ranked that high high of fourteen,

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low of thirty nine. One industry person did take him.
It was James Anderson right around the middle, So James
jumped on getting Bryce Rayner, who I love the back
to ball skills could not have been like that whole
like Bryce Rayner versus Connor Griffin. Lol, that's done. You know,
we know what the answer is. But Bryce Rainers also

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shouldn't be a complete afterthought. So again, you could have
a league where the valuation of what his upside is
could be really high, but then you could also have
closer to that thirty nine. I will say the outlier
here is the fourteen he was drafted. The arrest have
him into the twenty thirty range, So the fourteen pushed
him up, but all it takes this one league and

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it jumped him over. I think quite a few guys
that I do not have him above. I've got him
in the mid thirties, so I think my rank is
probably a little bit more representative if he didn't have
that fourteen. But there's a couple guys I thought kind
of were crazy lower coming in at the second one
the high of twenty and a low of fifty five.
George Lombard. George Lombard a big difference, and check this out.

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So the highest was twenty, which is pretty dang high,
but the lowest fifty five was done by Frank Stamfle
Frank was gifted George Lombard. There. I think the fifty
five is crazy. Lombard's back to ball like contact skills,
they're definitely in question. They got to fix something. They
can't let him go down the road to Spencer Jones.

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But at the same time, I don't remember someone that
got talked about more in the scouting world than George Lombard.
Absolutely everybody in love with him. Futures game, it's George
Lombard is George Lombard. It hasn't all clicked, but I
think the tools are still there and he's a great buy.
To me, this is the bye right here is George Lombard.
I'm gonna take the shot, and I'm gonna go and

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try to buy on George Lombard based off of this.
Rainer's fine, but Lombard going as low as fifty five now,
I will say, unfortunately that was the outlier. The others
were in like the later twenties. So the big outlier
and why he's moved down a little bit was that.
But if you can find a league, that's something that
I'm jumping on because I think he's way, way too talented.

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The third one here, Jet Williams. Jet Williams had a
wild differential, actually the biggest of this group. He ended
up having the highest of twenty four and the low
was seventy two. And seventy two is in my league.
And guess what the high was, James Anderson. The outlier
is the low Me and Doc who else to it? Beck?

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We allowed this to happen. He fell all the way
down to seventy two while he was going into the
mid twenty thirties in the other drafts. And by the way,
those other three all industry guys Scott White, James Anderson,
Chris Blessing all took him and he probably has a
better representation of being a top thirty guy because that
he got dragged the hell down by that seventy two.

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That still made him like a mid. He's ADP but
that's a pretty big fall. And then the final guy,
he's gonna be playing in the Arizona Fall League. So
this is why this one could be really interesting because
he's coming off of that I think as that fracture.
If he pops off, you might have to watch. And
this guy does have some weird variants. A high of
twenty seven, a low of sixty seven. That's Braidon Montgomery.

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But guess what, he had a thirty six and then
a fifty four, So that's all over the board. You know,
he's just kind of all over the place. I think
Brayden is a huge, huge power potential'd be really interesting
to see how he recovers. But he's a guy that
could thrive in the Arizona Fall League. So Braiden Montgomery
big variants, forty spot difference as a guy that's inside
the top forty. And here's our final one that we're

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going to break down. These are more than fifty spot
differences of guys fifty to one hundred, So they ranked
fifty to one hundred on the ADP. Well, actually forty
to one hundred because one of these I threw on here.
I'm going to give you five players with huge variants
as long as they to the math right, which that's

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been in question. These are fifty or more spots between
the highs and lows. Coming in at number one Noah Shultz,
and I do believe there's a lot of people that
don't know what to do with Noah Schultz, And unfortunately
Schultz got he got banged up again towards the end
of the season and that took him out of the
Arizona Fall League, so he's not going to be there.

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The high is the thing that's throwing this off, because
he had a high of nineteen and a low of
seventy one. That's ridiculous. The fifties was where he was
sitting in the other draft. So the nineteen is a
very big outlier. But again that's all that it takes.
All it takes is like a singular outlier in your
league to kind of change all these things that if

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you can find someone that values him as a top
twenty five. The consensus view is more closer to fifty.
Even though he ended up I'll just tell you forty four.
He ended up at there's a huge variance number two.
This is a guy that you know, I actually got
a check. I don't know if you could lose price
spec eligibility so he could come off. But so I'll
just be quick about it. But Dylan Beaver's Dylan Beaver's

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up in the majors had a high of thirty nine,
a low of ninety four. That's a huge one. This
one jumped out to me. This is a really fun one.
Caleb Bonnimber ended up having a way higher rank than
I expected. He definitely is an outlier to this. So
if you're looking for, like, you know, players that have
really jumped, Caleb Bonniber with the Chicago White Sox is

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one hundred percent one of those players. Caleb ended his season.
I think it's it's fully done here. Twelve homers, twenty
nine stolen bases. At least the regular season is twelve homers,
twenty nine stolen bases, over one hundred hits, hitting two
eighty one with a four hundred OBP insanely good year.
By the way, nineteen year old. This is a nineteen
year old second round pick for the Chicago White Sox.

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He ended up going inside the top seventy five, so
price worth the admission here for him. But he had
some variants. He had a high of forty one and
a low of one to oh three. But as you're
going to expect here, but the outlier was the low.
I'll throw this out to you, this is this is
crazy because we're gonna talk about him again in a

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little bit. But three of the four leagues he went
higher than what his ADP finished at. How does that work? Well,
it works because one league he went outside the top
one hundred, he went a lot further down, but three
of the other four higher than his ADP. That's someone
to buy in on right now. If people have not
figured out their evaluations of Caleb Bonniber. That is somebody

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that you might want to go poke around in the
off season to get some value on before people catch up.
Two more in this range Cooper Pratt. Cooper Pratt with
a high of twenty six a low of eighty three.
Down there kind of a kind of disappointing ish Ish season.
I suppose the outlier is the high, you know. So

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I say these because I'm always looking to see if,
like the average is all four or did one thing
carry it? The carry was the higher boy Jesse Severe
went ape on Cooper Prout. He had a high of
twenty six and a low of eighty three, So you
know that. I think there's more boggamins of meat on
the bone as far as where you can get as
far as value goes, if you believe in him, I

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think there's great power in his game. A little bit
questioned about, like is he gonna be able to consistently
hit for contact? Kind of would have liked to seeing
him in the AFL, but they've been pressing him pretty hard.
He's a guy that I think is going to be
in competition out of spring training for the shortstop gig,
but they're going to want to see him hit a
little bit more consistently. He is a top seventy five guy,

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but he's got some wide variants. And then lastly, maybe
has a little bit to do with me though I've
never had this guy remotely close. And I'm gonna just
tell you right now, the outlier is the high here
Slade Calledwell nineteen high, one thirty two low, Holy crap.
Luckily though, I think everything I think that super high

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and super low really helped even him out because he
was still like in a top eighty overall. Definitely think
things were disappointing at the end of the year. Did
not hit for average like you want. He got off
to really him and Waltzman both got off to like
really hot starts and then just kind of tapered back.
But Slade Caldwell with the wildest of wildest variations across
the board. So there you go. Now biggest drops, and

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then what we're gonna do is we're gonna look at
the most interesting post one fifty players, what the first
year player looked like, and the all industry drafted players.
But five players that had big drops from the last draft.
Thank it for whatever you want, but these guys had
fifty upwards to one hundred spot differences. I'm gonna give
you where they went in February and where they ended

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up going in this draft as far as let me
take a look at one of these guys. One of
these I think I'm confusing myself. Oh no, no, yeah,
what the average looked like, okay, this will make sense.
Number one biggest faller of impact is a player that
went inside the top one hundred in February is still

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in the top one hundred, but only by average. It's
Kim Collier. Kim Collier ended up. I'm going to give
you this number ninety nine on the ADP, but his
actual numerical number, you know where I told you, it's like,
you know, three point four, blah blah blah. It's post
one hundred. So the averages ninety nine, that's what he

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did finish up for September, even though the number was higher.
He was fifty eight in the February one, so you're
looking at like fifty two spot drop from February to now.
I just don't think he met expectations of what a
lot of people were looking at. He got hurt, missed
some time, but he'sn't being the Arizona fall League. So

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that is another guy that has the potential to kind
of recoup his value. Might be sneaky. You know what
I would say when I read this, this is a
guy that if I own owned not doing anything with
right now, because I think six seven months ago there
was almost a top fifty prospect valuation. I know James
is super high in him. That's been depleted, and he's
got a fall league coming up that could reignite some

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of that value. So if you are I want to
get out of the Cam Collier business, wait till the
Fall League because it's there. We're less than a year
removed from him almost being a top fifty prospect. On
the inverse, if you're a believer in Camp Collier, his
value is pretty low right now, and the Arizona Fall
League is not going to help it, So you might
want to try to go by before the Fall League
kicks up here because things do not square out. But

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that was a big drop a couple of these other guys.
You're probably not going to be too surprised about Xavier
Isaac speaking Fall League. He was there last year. Free fall,
absolute free fall kind of continues with him. Where he
was going forty one in the last draft post one hundred,
now post one hundred, it's a little bit outside the

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one hundred. His like eighty, his you know, a fractional
ADP is even worse than his actual one. So he
is down there. He's kind of on a free fall
He's really improved his body, you know from like the
falling and stuff, but the skills are just getting worse
as he is meeting higher competition. His swing and miss
looks just so bad. He definitely has some good raw power,

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but there's not a carrying tool right now, and this
might not have been low enough. Number three Jason Churio.
Jason Trio in February was drafted as a top fifty player.
He just cracked the one fifty range in this one,
just cracked it. That is a falloff as a matter
of fact, what ends up happening in some of these

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drafts once we get about one twenty five, let's call it,
that's the general space where you actually might not have
a player go in one draft. So you might have
like three drafts a player is taken and then one
he doesn't go. That starts to kind of pop up here.
And Tario did not go in one draft, so that's
what ended up. He actually didn't go in the draft

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I was in. I didn't end up taking him. He
ended up being a guy that I guess you could
say it's some pretty big variants because he was drafted
as high as one hundred. Still, but never cracked the
top one hundred. He had shoulder issues this year. I
shared that video. I was at the game and it
was extended or rookie ball or something where he was
rehabbing and he hurt his shoulder. I think that lingered

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all year. I kind of don't hate the idea of
maybe him being like a little bit of a buy
if you're willing to take the risk, just because he
was there was such a great hit tool in there,
if he could develop for power. I think that shoulder
affected him all season long, so maybe look at him.
Aiden Smith was a very popular prospect for some time.
I remember some people putting him top like twenty thirty.
Well in February he went inside the top one hundred.

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He has fallen outside the top one fifty in the
most recent also an Arizona Fall League guy. We'll see
if that helps improve any of his value. He actually
was inside the top one fifty real ADP Fractional ADP
was outside the top one fifty, so he's a free
fall And then the biggest faller of all, rubber Kalas
ruber Klaz was inside the top fifty. He was outside

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the top one fifty and his new miracle is around
one seventy. He was drafted in three of the four
with an industry person taking him. Actually not too shabby,
but Kalas also major injury stuff this year, missed some time,
really didn't ever like recoup himself. He has kind of
depleted in value. Those were the biggest droppers from February

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to September. There's others. There's definitely others. You have to
kind of there's a grain of assault looking at February
to September. But that's why I got hyper focused on,
like who is a guy that was going, you know,
top one hundred last time and then you know, had
maybe a poorish year, Like what was the perception? You know,
because the inverse, you have some of those like I'll

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just Ryan Clifford is a prime example of a player
that he was outside the top one fifty in last februaries.
He cracked inside the top one hundred this time. You know.
So you have some guys that move on the upward trajectory,
but I think you got to really hone in on
the like the negative trajectory of some of these guys.
Quinn Matthews another one of those like that really really

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fell but you know, but then you have some players
that had small like Travis Socora. This is interesting. Travis
Socora was fifty three in February's ADP and he ended
up like in like sixty one after having the Tommy
John and stuff. People just really not moving off of him.
So everything kind of evened itself out. All right, let's
take a break. When we come back, we got more

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P and ADP breakdowns. Here are some names to pay
attention to that I think are deals outside the top
one fifty. What did the P and ADP say about
first year player drafts and who is on the All
Industry drafted team. We'll do that right after this cross

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that five players that had an ADP outside the top
one fifty that I think might be some deals, And
I think some people might agree with me. There's more,
by the way, clearly, I just want to put that
out there. These are just guys I decided to pick
on here specifically, five players that I think were good
deals coming in just outside the top one fifty. Chinshin

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Co with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Co is a big,
physical dude who absolutely dominated rookie ball. He has seen
a little bit more hesitation moving up levels, but I
think he's like a really really good athlete, strong bat,
go to OBP skills, went off against a couple of
different major league guys, and I wonder if the slow
end kind of kept him from some stuff for people.

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But I will point out in two of the he
didn't get drafted in one league, but two of the
three was by industry people. Beck ended up taking him
and Martin took him really close to each other by
the way, within six spots that he ended up going.
So now there's some variants there, but I think co
kind of shines as a big value second on the list,
coming in just outside the top one sixty. Juniker could

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caro us with the Cleveland Guardians, And I think I
know I'm saying Juniaker right because I have asked him.
He confirmed with me. But Juniker one of the youngest
getting moved up to low A this year after spending
like a bunch of time in rookie ball, and I
was pretty impressed with him. I've been pretty vocal though that, like,

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if I had to pick one player from that rookie
ball team, I think I would go with Dari Fernandez
as being like a major league player. But Juniper's got
just a lot of the stuff that looks like a
future major league or like his height, weight, I think
is underlisted. They listen like five to ten, one sixty
put on more weight. I think he's closer to the
one eighty range, probably like five foot eleven. He ended

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up hitting two eighty nine in rookie ball as a
seventeen year old goes to a ball was decent and
thirty games he hit two fifty three thirty OBP no
strikeout issues, like there's a lot there. Kind surprised. These
are the type of guys that end up pushing one
hundreds in these so I think he's a little bit undervalued.
Maybe the biggest undervalued in my mind, going outside the

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top one sixty is Elma Rodriguez Cruz, who I think
finished leading the minor leagues and strikeouts. Elma Rodriguez Cruz
hat tip to Frankie Stamps who ended up taking him.
He went undrafted in two drafts. Shame on me too.
I was in one of the drafts. He didn't get
drafted on because I took a decent amount of pitchers
at the end. But Emma Rodriguez Cruz based on this

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is a smashing buy or you know, if you don't
believe in him, I suppose you want him to recoup
some more value, but the strikeout numbers the stuff he has.
Maybe he doesn't do it with the Yankees. I think
he's like a killer. Buy two more. Caden Scarborough with
the Texas Rangers. He's gotten a lot of buzzes of
recent and he's just squeaked in the top two hundred's.

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You should go, and you should go and get some
buys on him right now. He was drafted in only
two of the four leagues, but both of those are
by industry people. Beck and Jeff Ponce both took him,
so I couldn't take him because Beck took him. But
Caden Scarborough really pushed down some people. He's not on radars.
He is a by friends. And then the guy who's

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actually right under him, just squeaking inside the top two
hundred as well, is Chris Rodriguez. Chris Rodriguez with the
Detroit Tigers. I'm actually shocked about this one. He was
actually only drafted in one league. I cannot believe that.
But how high he was drafted. Put him in here
and I couldn't agree with it more. There's a couple
guys looking back on this that actually only got like

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one or two leagues drafted on. The posts that are
just outside of the top two hundred are just there,
and I'm like, holy crap, these guys do deserve to
go a little bit higher. And Chris Rodriguez is one
of those really great Dominican Summer League co juniker Elmriguez,
Cruz Cayden Scarborough and Chris Rodriguez. I think those are
five screaming buys that are outside the top one fifty

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of my P one ADP's first year player. As we
get closing in to round this out, what did the
overall ADP have to say about first year player? It's
very interesting because I think and I had to look
at this a couple of times and make sure I
wasn't like missing somebody because I think the top end
it's pretty chalk. When we look back, Yeah, I think

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I got all this. I think it's like locked in,
We're good to go. I feel like confident the top
four Ethan Holiday I think really has cemented with a
lot of people. I told you I maybe affect some
of this and Kate Anderson came in at number two,
but literally the number behind him was Eli Willetts. So
Eli Willetts and Kate Anderson. I think they could swap

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that top three though. I love number four Jojo Parker,
number five, Seth Hernandez. That is what the ADYP says
about what first year player is. Number six is a
me thing. I have an arquette, so I'm in agreement here.
But this is where things start to open up a
little bit. So we had I have ourked at six.
Coming in at seven is Jamie Arnold. A lot of

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people excited about him. He could potentially pitch in the
Arizona Fall League, could be a guy that could break camp.
I kind of see that number eight. Steel Hall jumps
up on the list. Okay, you know, I think we've
seen some positive runs on him. He's been playing. He's
like the one dude I've missed out here in rookie ball.
I need to do it. Number nine really threw me off.

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In Billy Carlson, I couldn't disagree with this one more.
I've watched Billy Carlson. The bat is just not there.
At this point, I'm close to taking Jaden how above
Billy Carlson. So this is like a massive disagreement point
I have with this. And let's take a look Billy Carlson,
you know. I mean I want to point out, as

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I say this, three of four industry people took him,
you know, so maybe I'm wrong, but he had a
low of one seventy one and a high of sixty three.
That's a big, big difference. Two of the three industry
people took him inside the top one hundred. I'm not
about it, though. I don't like the bat hits across
his body. I don't see the power projection. He is

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a freaking A plus defender though, but I'm not there.
So that one threw me off. Number ten Ethan Conrad.
And this is why I would say I'm a little
bit thrown off because you got some of the pictures
disappearing Bremner. I'm telling right now, Bremner's not in the
top twelve. He did not make this top twelve. Conrad,
I know, is very popular college side. He's been hurt
out here, so he hasn't moved up. I want to

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see him. Andrew Fisher came in at eleven, and I
would put Fisher above those last two and number ten
Kayson Witherspoon. So again you are not there's no Tyler
Bremner probably is gonna break camp with the team that
took me by surprise. And I need to look again
like where Bremner went way down here. Let me see

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this real quick now I'm checking how many more I
mean based on this, I mean Bremner is like a
mid second round pick, which is kind of threw me off.
Was surprising. I think I wouldn't have been surprised for
Lavaallette Conningham, but they did not make it. So again,
the p and ADPs tell you that it's Holiday Anderson, Willitts, Parker,

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Seth Hernandez, I've a arquette. That's your top six, and
in the bottom six is Jamie Arnold steel Hall, Billy Carlson,
Conrad Fisher, and Kyson Withernspoon. So I was a little
bit surprised at the end. This is not where I
have it. But that is kind of the consensus. That's
the consensus feelings on these players. And the Brimner one,
I'm just going to throw out two is really interesting.

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He actually was only taken in three of the four leagues,
but the three people were all industry people that took him.
There was an overarching I talked with Matt Eddie about
this that we both kind of agreed and this is
a pretty common thing, and this is why this is.
I think the stuff is helpful. I think people will
have a really hard struggle with what to do with
first year player. Sometimes they go too high. In some

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years you get like people are like going ballistic, and
then the back end players they just lose. And then
sometimes like this, I almost thought almost at every stop,
the first year player guys were kind of values and
they were dropping. I ended up probably taking half of
my picks were first year player guys because I was
just like, this is too good, this is too good

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of a player. I mean, I got let me see
if I can get case On Cunningham I got. I
took him into the top one hundred, so I got them,
you know, a little bit higher, but I'm trying to see.
I took Jamie Arnold and I got him outside the
top one hundred. In that and the league that I
was in, I took Seth Hernandez, I took iv A Arquette.
I took those three players, and for the most part,

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I was close to being well. I guess I took
the highest of Iva Arquette, second highest on Seth Rnandez,
and I got the absolute lowest on Jamie Arnold. So
it's just a you know, valuation variant difference between all
those guys. But I kind of thought in general, the
first year player guys are being undervalued, and I think
Matt Eddie agreed. So if you were doing a startup,

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I think it's a really good idea to eye those
players in the same token. This might be representation that
maybe you can get a cheaper cost on some of
those first round picks, because I feel like everyone's telling you, like, oh,
trade out, you know, don't do this, don't do that,
but like get maybe gets a mid first for a
little bit less because people are just out on a
lot of these guys. I also think, based on this,

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the second round is like chock full of dudes. You know,
we didn't talk about like Irish case On Cunningham has
mentioned Jays Lavallette. There's more pitchers. Bremner's way down there,
Like the mid second round of a twelve team looks
good or the real early second round of a fifteen
I think look really good. So maybe you can get
them for a little bit of a better cost. Final,
up here six players. I've already given you one the

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all industry team. That means these only six players in
this entire thing were exclusively drafted by people that cover
or do podcast or write or whatever however you want
to dictate it, that are in the world of prospecting.
These guys were exclusively taken by industry. Now I've already
told you number one, Connor Griffin overall, oddly enough, was

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taken by everybody. Beck Anderson, Eric Cross, Matt Eddie. It
just worked out that way, and everybody took him, so
it's almost kind of fake. You know, he should be
number one, coming in at number two. All industry, Tim Kannak,
Jeff Ponce, Eric Cross, and Chris Blessing all took this
player inside the top well, his average is inside the

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top twenty. A couple of them got deals. Edward Florentino,
we have not talked about him, and I'll tell you
I'm not going to give you because I think he's
a good selling point. I'm not going to give you
what the ADP was, but I can tell you Edward
Florentino was exclusively taken by prospect people. Finished the season

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and absolutely absurd sixteen homers, thirty five stolen bases, two
ninety average with a four hundred OBP across two levels.
Destroyed rookie ball, but still had ten homes, had ten
of his sixteen homers in a ball. He hit two
six two in a ball with the majority of his
stolen bases, a majority of his homers, and a strikeout

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rate that's nothing to go crazy about. Plus he had
a three eighty eight OBP. It's a phenomenal season. There's
rave reviews out there now that we have a season long. Look,
I'm pretty comfortable. I'm pretty comfortable just kind of jumping in.
Tim Kanak, Jeff Cross, and Ponce all took him. So
there you go. And a common denominator too, by the way,

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if I'm staring at this is Ponce is involved in
three of the six and that's really it. I mean,
Cross and Eddie show up twice, Clegg shows up twice.
Two's are probably not uncommon, like James shows up twice,
but Jeff is involved in three of these. So there's
an industry leader there. So Edward Florentino all industry top

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player two Pittsburgh Pirates. There Connor Griffin and him third up.
This player had an average inside the top fifty. Only
one person outside of these industries took him outside the
top fifty. Beck, Matt Thompson, Martin Sikolski, and Jesse Severe

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all took Ryan Waldschmidt with the Arizona Diamondbacks. Wald Schmidt
ended up who, by the way, was on like a
total tear. He was in an absolute tear, and then
things kind of tapered back down. He ended the season
hitting though two eighty nine with eighteen homers twenty nine
stolen bases, gets up to double A, really kind of
refound himself and was better at Double A. He hit

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two sixty eight at hig A, then played another sixty
six games at Double A where he hit three h
nine with nine homers and nineteen stolen bases in sixty
six games. Great year, four hundred OVP across both levels. Strikeouts,
nothing to scream about, you know, a little bit higher,
but nothing bad. Walked one hundred and eleven times while

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striking out one hundred and fifteen times. Love. There's a
love across the board, and James wasn't one of them.
This is James's guy, Ryan Waldschmidt overslaged. Caldwell is pretty
locked in right now, so hat tip to James for that.
I still think they're close ish, but it's so much
louder for Ryan Waldschmant and Closer Beck, Matt Martin and

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Jesse all took and Martin's the only person that got
him outside the top fifty. Only one person drafted him
above his ADP as well. But we now got two outfielders,
Florentino and wald Schmidt to go with Connor Griffin coming
in at number four. We talked about this player before
Caleb Bonniber. We kind of already did the Bonniber stuff,

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But hat tip two Tim Kannak, Jeff Ponce, Scott White,
and Chris Klegg all took. Caleb Bonniber insanely good year,
probably way undervalued right now in the prospect space and
is a goodbye, and I think like Florentino is not undervalued.
That's the tricky thing about the all Endo Street team here.

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You're not getting a discount Griffin. You're not in getting
a discount on Florentino. You might have Waltschmid, people might
not have him in that top fifty Bonniber, I really
bet they're not. And as I said, three of the
four times he actually went higher than his highest value.
But Scott White got the best value outside the top
one hundred. So Caleb Bonniber comes in at number four
of the all drafted by the Industry team coming in

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at number five, this is where I show up. I
showed up only once on this and I took him
the highest. Nate George, with the Baltimore Orioles, was taken
by myself. He was taken by Jeff Ponce. He was
taken by Jesse Roach and Matt Eddie from Baseball America.
So I got some Baseball America love that's floating in there,

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as two of the Baseball America guys took him. And
actually this was one I think me and Matt were
talking about. Nate George ended with a three thirty seven
batting average, four to thirteen obp, five homers, fifty stolen bases,
and went three levels this year hit three eighty three,
three thirty seven, and two ninety one respectively. That's nuts.

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I'd also point out he got caught in absurd twenty
five times, so there were seventy five base attempts. I'm
not really sure what that says at this point. He
got caught twenty five times, stole fifty times. Maybe there's
more upside, maybe there's more downside if he's a bad
base runner, but you know, the power still kind of building.
I want to say, maybe it was Jeff that had

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even said to me, like, where's the line between him
and a guy like Slade Caldwell. I think Nate George
is wildly underrated, and he ended up having an ADP
inside the top one hundred. Three of the four of
us took him inside the top one hundred. I took
him the highest. Jesse Roach got the best value. But
there's only like a twenty spot difference really between where
we took him inside the top one hundred Nate George.

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We have three outfielders, one infielder, and finally the last
player is a pitcher, and he was taken outside of
the top one hundred and the only caveat. I consider,
as I told you before, I consider my boy Dan
Fu like an industry guy. I think he's one of
the best, like you know, dynasty players, and he's involved
in so much stuff that I want to count him

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in this list because this put this picture on Dan Fu,
James Anderson, Martin Sikolski, and Chris Klegg all took this player.
James took this player inside the top one hundred, Martin
got him at one sixty, Play got him at one
fifty seven, and Dan Fu a little bit closer to

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his adp the picture. Our only all industry pitcher, Carlos
Lagrange with the New York Yankees ended up making that list.
He was taken by everybody, and I'm not surprised. I
was looking at him as well. As mentioned, I kind
of ended up getting like a decent amount of pictures
at the end. And the reason I didn't get him

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is the second highest value was Danfoo. We were in
the same league, so I didn't end up it was
on the wrong wheel. But Lagrange ends up with one
hundred and sixty eight strikeouts and one hundred and twenty innings,
a one to two whip three and a half era
phenomenal into the season as well. He was able to
move two levels up to double A, where he was
better than he was at high a Velo was cracking.

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He obviously has to monitor the strikeouts and stuff, but
just has better command than what we've seen with guys
like if you want to do the whole like what
is it, Luis Mendina, Komp and stuff like that. I
think it's just way more poise. He's got nasty stuff
and he is the only pitcher of this all industry
draft team again. Connor Griffin, Edward Florentino, Ryan Waltschmi, Caleb Bonniburn,

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Nate George, and Carlos Lagrange. What can I say about
the l industry? Sometimes to me this is read off
as these are players you should probably try to get,
you know, because I can speculate on some stuff. I
can speculate when I tell you these guys are values
outside the top one fifty. These guys had big differences
in the top twenty or top forty, But every industry

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person made sure to get the Griffin's a little bit
of an outlier. Everyone made sure to get Florentino. Everyone
had a shot. Everyone had a shot at Waldschmidt, Bonniber, George,
and Lagrange, and they were drafted across the board by
the industry. So Florentino, Waldschmitt, Barniber, George, Lagrange. You make
that decision on your own where you think, but those
guys were big standouts being drafted across the board. And

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there you go. That is my breakdown of some of
the fun stuff in here, and there's a bunch more
you can do it yourself. I've got February in September,
I've got each draft shown. You can also see the
high and low the industry stuff. Who is the most aggressive,
who is the least aggressive on a player? The least
and most aggressive is kind of fun. Like, one thing
I like to do I didn't do in this is

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find when the industry people were the least and most aggressive.
Like here's an example of one. Who the hell is this?
This is is a Florentino. Well, I guess that doesn't
count because he's on the All team. Well let's look
at this one. Who is this? This is Thomas White?
Thomas White? Most aggressive was Martin Sukolski. Least aggressive but
got him at the best value was Tim Kanak. That's
another way that you can end up looking at this,

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and there's quite a few that are kind of floating
out there, especially when you get towards like the bottom
of it. But two hundred will be listed on the Patreon.
You can check that out. I'll go along with my
Top five hundred update, my Dynasty update, and my first
year player ranks, which I think is like it's approaching
like ninety or something like that, and I have it
kind of sorted in a fun different way. But I
hope you guys enjoyed this. I think these are immensely valuable.

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I get to kind of stare at these and look
at it for my own evaluation. What am I wrong about?
What am I really right about? Sometimes there's some good
confirmation and also just having a proper way to speak
to you guys that I might be way higher on
a player, it might be way lower on a player.
And if you look at this from a new start
perspective or you just want to understand the market, I

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think there's some cool value with it. And hat tip
to everybody that took part in it. I always appreciate
my prospect people that do it, my industry people that
do it. You know, we all try to help each
other out by whether we're doing mocks or just taking
part and do it going on shows and stuff like that.
This is one I really appreciate that. Like I really
don't have a lot of pushback like people just want
to do this and take part in it and had
a really good group of people. And then there's always

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Jesse Severe. Jesse Zevere deserves a lot of love here
from the Dynasty Show. You guys want to make sure
Dynasty Life. Jesse helps me kind of curate this stuff
and manage it and take care of it because he's
a super genius. And Jesse's also doing stuff over at
Baseball HQ if I remember correctly, hopefully I didn't screw
that up. Prospect This in HQ sometimes mess me up
in my brain, but I believe it is HQ. All right, friends,

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