August 30, 2024 • 30 mins
What if the world’s most celebrated athletes were being unfairly targeted because of misunderstandings? Today, we tackle the controversy surrounding Algerian boxer Imani Khalif, who clinched Olympic gold amid false accusations by public figures like JK Rowling, Trump, and Elon Musk. Join us as we set the record straight about Khalif's gender and dive into the complex issues of natural genetic advantages in sports. We also discuss the critical need for responsible social media behavior, particularly by influential individuals, and the profound effects their baseless claims have on real people's lives.
Social media has transformed the way we communicate, but at what cost? We examine the troubling rise of internet-fueled bullying and the erosion of civility in modern discourse. The anonymity of social media has given rise to a culture where people feel empowered to share hurtful opinions without consequence. Through personal anecdotes and the de-influencing trend, we highlight the importance of authenticity and self-awareness in a world obsessed with curated online personas. We delve into the mental health implications of public criticism, exploring how influential figures' comments can significantly impact the people they target.
As summer winds down, we shift gears to the joys and anxieties of expecting a new baby. From the comfort of living in a childhood room to the anticipation of beach days and boardwalk adventures, we reflect on the beauty of a relaxed summer break. We also champion a friend's custom jewelry business, ANIN NYC, discuss the significance of birthstones, and look forward to post-pregnancy treats like spicy margaritas. With a touch of humor and heartfelt advice, we encourage you to take a self-care day and make the most of the remaining summer days before the busy season of September begins.
Disclaimer: This podcast represents the opinions of Dr. Bridget Melton, MD and licensed therapist Marissa Volinsky, MS, LPC, NCC. The contents of our podcast and website should not be taken as medical advice. The contents of our podcast and website are for general informational purposes only, and are not intended to diagnose, treat, prevent, or cure any condition or disease or substitute for medical advice. Always seek the advice of your physician, mental health professional, or other qualified health care provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition or treatment and before starting or discontinuing treatment.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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So welcome to episode six ofseason two of our lovely podcast
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Like I said, I am 38 weeks.
By the time this airs I will be39 weeks.
We're getting there for some ofyou thinking wow, she's been
pregnant for three years, truefeels like it aren't elephants
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
So we figured we'd discuss a topic that is hot in
the news right now and give ourperspectives and maybe dive into
a little mental health aspectof it.
So take it away pregnant mama.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
All right.
So I know the Olympics endedtwo weeks ago.
Everybody knows Imani Khalif.
I'm sure they heard the storyof the Algerian boxer who did
end up winning gold.
She was fighting Karini, theAlgerian boxer who did end up
winning gold.
She was fighting Carini Herlast name is Carini, an Italian
boxer, and Carini withdrew fromthe match within 45 seconds and
said she just didn't feel safe,which fair enough on her part.
If you don't feel safe, youshouldn't compete.
(01:54):
That's not the issue.
The issue arises when you havecertain celebrities, like it was
, I think.
Trump, jk Rowling and Elon Muskall hopped on X, formerly known
as Twitter, and without anybasis, said keep men out of
women's sports.
So this is what JK Rowlingtweeted the smirk of a male who
knows he's protected by amisogynist sporting
(02:14):
establishment enjoying thedistress of a woman he's just
punched in the head.
So Imani Khalif is a woman.
She was born a woman.
Also, transgenderism is illegalin Algeria, so she couldn't
have been trans Born.
A woman naturally has higherlevels of testosterone, which,
as we know, some people havegenetic predispositions to these
things, and it's fine.
(02:34):
Some men have more estrogen,some women have more
testosterone.
So what we want to talk aboutis what is the line that we're
drawing?
Because the same thing happenedwith Kastor simenya way back
when, like 20 years ago now, shewas a sprinter who has
naturally higher testosteroneand they, you know, I think they
may have stripped her of sometitles, if I'm not mistaken.
You know, because michaelphelps has a bigger lung
(02:56):
capacity and a longer wingspan,making him like a genetic
swimming freak.
That's a natural born advantageyes, basketball players are
almost seven feet tall.
That's a natural born advantage.
Are we saying it's unfair thateveryone has to be 5 10 and then
you compete in the forbasketball and then, of all the
men who are average height,that's who gets to play.
It's not you know.
So where, where are we drawingthe line here?
(03:18):
Obviously, if it's.
If people feel threatened andthey think they're in danger,
they definitely shouldn'tcompete, and that's fine, that's
completely up to you.
And even karini said like thisis nothing, this is not a
political statement.
I just didn't personally feelsafe, like I felt like I took a
big blow to the head and I justthought maybe I should take a
step back.
Okay, and that's fine.
Um, but are we saying thatevery athlete who has a genetic
(03:41):
advantage should be looked at onthe same scale?
Cause that's not how we, that'snot how we, we do it.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So that's what we're talking about today.
Yes, hearing like JK Rowlingdoing that with like no basis at
all is kind of insane, causeshe is kind of like the maker of
my childhood, yeah, and it justthat just seems really.
I mean I don't know, was shehaving too much to drink at home
and I don't know got?
Just seems really.
I mean I don't know, was shehaving too much to drink at home
and I don't know got reallybold on her phone?
(04:07):
I don't know.
But that's, that's horrible tosay because obviously, as
bridget mentioned, she just isborn with naturally high
testosterone um, not trans atall.
So the implications it has onthis, this poor woman is it's
like, because there was no uh,apology issued, right no, not
from these people, no so likenow.
of course we have no idea whathappens behind the scenes, like
(04:28):
if she was given a callpersonally or a DM, I don't know
.
By the looks of it, probablynot and I think that's just like
you to get on a social platformthat everyone can see and to
not have to like kind of eatyour words and apologize and be
the bigger person and aresponsible adult.
I mean, what are you showingyounger generations?
Like behaviors are just allowed, like that's just you could do
(04:50):
whatever you want and it wasjust the.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
The three of them made such throwaway comments and
it's like that's a real personseems like bullying to me.
Yeah, like that's a realperson's life.
Like monica leaf is not acelebrity, she's just.
You know, like most o, let's behonest, like you don't know the
name of most Olympians.
You know the big ones whorepresent your country and maybe
a few other bigger wealthycountries.
You don't know all they'reamateur athletes.
So this is just a female boxer,you know, from Algeria.
(05:16):
You had never heard her namebefore.
She has a life to go back to andto just make a throwaway
comment like that, think of whatthat has done to her
self-esteem.
And you know then, because theneverybody piles on those
comments and send death threatsand you know people in her life
might be questioning, oh, is shetrying?
You know people who met herlater in life, not as a child,
might be like, oh, my god, Ididn't know amani was like it's
(05:38):
just, it's so effed up to justmake a comment.
You're a celebrity, so to youthat means nothing, it's not
going to affect your life at all, but to her that's her whole
world.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I think also like the death threats, um way over the
top.
You should not be allowed to dothat.
Like that's someone's life,whether you like what they are
or not.
Like even if she was trans.
Like that doesn't, that does.
You don't get to say, well, I'mgonna kill you.
You know you don't get to dothat.
Yeah, completely.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So yeah, we just want to kind of see if people could
drop comments after how everyonefeels about stuff like this.
You know, should it be a caseof her testosterone is checked
before every major event becauseshe was not allowed to compete
in, like, the world boxing eventleading up to the Olympics?
However, she was able toqualify for the Olympics.
(06:25):
So is there a differentstandard for each competition or
is it just that it's the samestandard and her testosterone is
naturally fluctuating and itwas safe enough for her to
compete in the Olympics?
We don't know, but let us knowin the comments, like what you
guys think, like what should bethe standard, because medicine,
healthcare, everything is soadvanced now, like you could be
(06:45):
like right on the spot, what isher testosterone levels at this
moment?
Should we be allowed to do that?
I don't, I don't know.
I mean, where do we draw theline and what line is?
I won't say, is it harassing?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Or should there be, should she be allowed to compete
?
But they have, like, highertestosterone women in their own
category.
Don't know if there are thatmany.
Well, maybe there would be ifthey knew it wasn't like.
So, like, as you saw, this is abig deal, it's a touchy subject
.
Would more people be willing ifthey knew they weren't going to
be targets?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Also a different perspective as a mother if this
was my daughter.
That's so hurtful to hear Likemy daughter is getting death
threats over something that shehas no control over.
Yeah, that is.
It's just really sad and Ithink we all need to remember on
the online space that we allshare to be kind, because
everyone is a human and everyoneis somebody's child, and this
(07:36):
online bullying it just needs tostop.
You're adults.
This is just not a good look.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh my God, it's so insane to just make.
Because that's the problem withthe internet, unfortunately, is
you could just say anything andit's out there and no one's
gonna prove or disprove.
You know, only real, trustednews outlets are gonna do the
digging and find the information.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Brigitte is pausing because her necklace just broke.
Yeah, that was so crazy.
The necklace just like came offof me well, that was weird how
did that happen?
But anyway, I don't know.
We'll focus on that later, but,um, there's like a trend going
on tiktok right now I don't knowif you've heard it where it's
like they'll find things thatare, um, you know good and
they'll be like, oh, this isvery demure, very mindful yeah,
yeah so uh, jk rowling, not verydemure of you, yeah not see how
(08:19):
I'm being very demure, verymindful
Speaker 2 (08:21):
yes, I'm not cyber bullying right, I'm not making
death threats, yes, yes, notvery mindful of you, not very
mindful, yeah, um, and then Iagree with you like to not make
a public apology, like we don'tknow what went on behind closed
doors, but I'm sure I'll googleit right now.
Let's do it.
I'll google it right now.
We're doing it.
No, so angela carini, theitalian, did.
I knew that already, like she.
(08:42):
There's no intention behind it,but she apologized to her, no
one else.
Do Trump another?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's upsetting because you're adults, like they
are celebrities and if peopleare looking to you, you have a
huge following.
So you really need to takeaccountability of your actions.
It's okay to make a mistake.
I'm not saying how dare youeven make that mistake?
You're human, You're effed up,but you do need to.
Then.
I actually just read guys.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I just read on Reddit where someone said well, until
I know all the facts, I'm notgoing to call her a female.
(09:28):
And then someone wrote back tothe Redditor yeah, but normally
when you see a woman you callthem a female.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You don't need, I don't know like let me see your
genetics.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I know, are we going to start walking around with
genetic that you were tested foryour like genotype.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That's so wild playground bullying at best.
You know, this is schoolyardbully, right?
This?
Yeah, this is that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's ridiculous oh my god, like why, all of a sudden,
now everyone needs to be provengenotypically.
I think just this is so wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
We've gone so far I'm sorry, but I don't think enough
of your mommies and daddiesloved y'all um, because there'd
be more kindness in this world.
I know like because that's crazyto me.
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
That is wild, all right, likealso what happened to the times
like our mom was popular, likeif you have to say she'd be like
(10:19):
if you had nothing nice to say,you don't say it at all.
Like there was a time where itwas like very demure to have
manners and it's like verymindful.
And now people are just becauseof the internet, people are
bold and it's just like if youhave nothing nice to say don't
say it, but they want to becauseyou can shout into the void and
no one's gonna disprove.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You get a diary, people get diaries.
Oh my god, that's what you usedto do right.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yes, that's your void's your void.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That is appropriate, then do whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
You're not hurting anybody's feelings Maybe your
own, but get a.
All of you need diary andtherapy for real and maybe
better relationships with peoplewho raised you.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Diary might be the move.
I think you're right about that.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I didn't really think about that and you could even
do.
You feel it's public, so youfeel that get the release.
You could get an online blog,make it private or sharing with
only certain friends, that islike.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Is that not an episode of the office where they
just open up a word documentfor someone?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
That's definitely a.
Thing.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And he thinks he's a website.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
In therapy when I'm.
This is a different topic butsimilar in a sense, where you're
getting things out in the void.
If they're trying to get awayfrom a toxic ex and they can't
stop always texting, I tell themto text themselves or write it
in the notes so it still feelslike it's going through and
you're getting it out.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
That's that classic like write a letter to yourself
thing, Like write a letter,never send it burn it.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, all the boys I've loved before.
Yes, right, isn't that likewe're losing these skills
because social media has made itso popular to just throw all
your opinions online.
Not all of them are good.
Not all of them are good vastmajority I would say vast
majority not that good, keepthem to yourself yes, back to
the diaries, remember we used tohave that password, one where
you had and you're like youcan't steal it.
(11:54):
You don't know the password.
Yeah, you need the fingerprint Iwish people were more secretive
nowadays like now everyonethinks they have some, there's
some philosopher, they have somegreat cutting edge thought you
don't well, we're a now comingup or a generation of
egocentrics, almost right, like,like, because the internet has
made you all feel like your owncelebrity in your own right.
How many likes?
What are you doing?
(12:14):
What are you tagging?
Who are you friends with?
And I, and what trends are youkeeping up with?
How much?
Because, like, for instance, alot of people always are showing
themselves traveling and a lotof people are really secretly
poor.
Yes, but it's a vision whatpeople are showing.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, you you create your own life you want to
portray, which, back in the day,used to just be how you styled
your bedroom like.
This is how I want to portraymyself.
Now.
It is social media.
People are oh my god, you're soright.
People are like, oh, they'rethe perfect couple.
Look at how everything'samazing.
They go traveling.
They always end up divorcethese celebrity couples that you
see.
So how perfect is their life.
What are they doing in the daytoday at home?
(12:47):
Uh, jack shit is what they'redoing, just like the rest of us.
Nothing, oh my god I love.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I actually like to follow the people who, um, like
show you what influencers do tomake you feel better.
So this one time she made it,she was trying to reproduce, um,
a thing that she had donepreviously before.
She was helping de-influenceand she was, like, I want to
show you like my life wasn'tperfect.
So she I used to even look atthis photo, be like, wow, that's
amazing, I wish I had thatmoney.
She, like went to niagara fallsand then it made it look like
(13:15):
her bed was on the water, like,and that the headboard was all
glass.
But then she deconstructed itand showed that she moved all
the table and everything, likeher bed was in the back, like
where a normal hotel is, and shemay put the bed and her and her
partner are very thin.
It was a big square table.
They laid on it, they put theblankets, they staged the
pillows to make it look like abed.
But it was.
She literally made the bedherself, the whole bed,
(13:36):
constructed off the table theyeat on.
She did not have a view of thatoff of her bed and it just goes
to show you that before she wason this whole I'm gonna be a d
influencer she was making peoplefeel really bad and also how
the people are probably seekingout this room and it doesn't
exist I do love the dinfluencing trend.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Just because you're so right, it makes people feel
like, like, like if youde-influence and I'm like, okay,
so everything is obtainable andand fake.
Like you know what I mean.
There's equal parts obtainablegoals and equal parts fake, and
I just I'm always mind blown,but I guess influencing was my
job, I would put that mucheffort in.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I guess, but you also have to remind yourself when
you're having a bad day.
They're called the 1% for areason, right, Because they're
really the minority.
So if you start to see everyoneon your for you page, even
people you went to high schoolwith, looking like they're 1%ers
, it's impossible.
Statistics say you know there'sonly 1%.
So and if really, honestly, Icould go on Instagram today and
(14:33):
almost everybody I follow itmakes it look like they're all
millionaires I know they're not.
Yeah, I do know that I havefriends that are doing well
maybe upper middle class, butnot really far beyond that yeah,
and it always feels likeeveryone's traveling now they.
Well, I will say this see, Ionly post, and maybe this I'm a
victim too.
I only post important memoriesto me for me to keep like an
(14:56):
album, like of the kids.
I only do holidays or big trips, so maybe it's because I only
post that it seems that way.
Um, I can't speak for those whopost non-stop and it's all
trips, but like, I only postwhen I have trips or holidays
see, and I actually if I'm likeaway, I don't post because I'm
like I don't want to be on myphone, I don't always post them
right away, yeah, for safety.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Sometimes I like it that way, I don't want you to be
able to stalk me.
Yeah, no, I totally agree withthat.
I just like won't take photos,like I just don't.
So people are like oh, you wentaway.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I'm like oh, yeah, oh .
I don't always post, obviously,all of them, but sometimes I
like to take photos because meand my little anxiety.
I'm always like what if I'm inthe future and I have dementia
and I want to see my memorieswith my husband and kids, so I
like always take way too many oh, that's cute.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
That's where your son gets it from always like what
if I'm the?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
what if I know that I , as a therapist, I know I need
to work on that?
Um, but yeah, but I'm nothurting anybody like these
bullies, I'm not hurting anybody.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
So we're just gonna kind of like talk about the
mental health aspects, aboutlike what this has done to,
although now that she's a goldmedal winner I'm sure she's very
happy.
Apparently she went home to ahero's welcome in algeria, which
is amazing, so I'm sure she's,like you know, kind of like that
alana mar the um, you know, theamerican rugby sevens player,
or maybe just rugby player.
She was like you know, I don'tcare what you say, because at
(16:11):
the end of the day, I'm the onewith a medal and I'm an olympian
and I feel great.
So hopefully monocleaf is alsofeeling like that.
I hope so, but there aredefinitely mental health
implications.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yes, absolutely.
Depression, self-esteem issues,suicidal ideations.
The problem is, even if shesays she's doing great, we don't
really know right.
Only she knows that.
And what I say, even in couplestherapy don't say something in
a fight you can't take back andthat's something your partner
will ruminuminate about, even ifthey don't tell you.
In their mind for the rest oftheir life they will always
(16:41):
think they thought this about meor because it's something you.
You cannot take back.
Your words you can apologize,but sometimes that doesn't
matter, it's already in theirmind.
They're all.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
This is already their self-doubting thought, and it's
something they very likely werealready self-conscious about it
.
It always is Because you knowyour partner's weakness.
Okay, so Imani Khalifa, let'ssay we're projecting here, but
let's imagine that she's verytall, very tall and I would say
has sharp features, yeah, whichI mean models do too and we
(17:11):
idolize models.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, we love them so what's the difference really?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Just because she chose?
boxing, really just because shechose boxing, because we're not
sexualizing her, she's notsomething that men can, exactly
because she's a tough ass boxer,yeah, so let's imagine she grew
up thinking you know, I am kindof tall and I do have pretty
big muscles and I'm a boxer, soI'm a bit self-conscious.
Like you know, she jokes withher friends maybe like I look
like a man, you know, but herfriends like no, you don't.
Girl, amani, you good.
(17:34):
Now, people she's never methave seen her on tv and the
first thing that they tweetedwas that she's a man.
All of that insecurity isflooding bubbling to the surface
.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Oh, my god, here's the worst part.
What if she would grew upreally idolizing harry potter?
What if, again, we'reprojecting?
What if she was the kid that,like that, got her through some
of the toughest times and thenan author you love came out and
said that nasty shit and didn'tapologize for it?
That's, I think that's.
Even that makes it worse ifit's someone you cared about.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah and it's the fact that she never hurt them.
She never talked about thesepeople.
They're just random celebritieswith a lot of influence
punching down on just an amateurboxer from algeria, that's so
sad.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
That's.
You know what they need.
They all need therapy.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
That's why yeah, it's just like they work on
themselves, and to a lot ofpeople it's just another snippet
in the news, but to her thatthat has changed her life.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I do feel bad.
We need to send her like abasket of care.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I know that we're sorry for our fellow Americans,
oh, my god, she's so, so sad andBrits JK Rowling's, but yeah,
yeah, I forgot Sorry.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Every time I just I just assumed Harry Potter.
Yeah, you're right, yourhusband could take her.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Isn't Elon Musk like Croatian?
I don't even know so yeah, no,I think.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, that's kind of.
It's just hurtful and there's alot of mental health
implications that people don'teven realize or care to realize.
And it is, it is going toaffect her for the rest of her
life.
She's not going to forget this,no way.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Never going to forget it and you're so right about
those things that, like apartner says it doesn't even
have to be a partner.
Sometimes it's like a friend,yeah, yeah.
Do you ever like hear somethinglike, oh, so-and-so said this
about you?
You know, like when you're inhigh school and you're like they
cut me yeah it's like somethingthat you really will think
about.
I have some comments like that.
They're're not.
I will tell you if they cancame.
If they came to my head rightnow, I would tell you them.
(19:18):
You have some.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I don't want to.
You know my kids might listento this one day.
I don't want to.
Yeah, sorry they were.
I could tell you that I was cutdeep and that I ruminated about
them like the whole school year.
Yeah, Cause I definitely havesome that like they're just not
coming to me right voice and asI'm getting ready and I go out,
even when I'm about, I'm like,wow, I look really hot tonight.
(19:41):
This is a great outfit, a goodnew outfit.
That thought will pop up andimmediately self-esteem gone
right before I walk out the door.
So, it still affects me to thisday.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I don't wear eyeliner because Geri said that she
didn't like it on me.
How silly is that?
Is that like I'll let aprofessional makeup artist do it
on me?
I like it on you, but I neverwear eyeliner because she'll be
always like they make your eyeslook too small.
Oh, oh yeah.
How weird is that so I.
I barely know how to puteyeliner on because I just don't
do but like I said, like aprofessional, I'll let them do
(20:09):
it.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It looks good of their look, but I will.
I don't even own eyeliner, soran, I know you just like you
just remember those things yeah,yeah, no, because Geri listens
to our podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
No we love you?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, we're not ragging on, jerry, let's pick someone
else.
But, um, so yeah.
So those things, they will comeup, your brain does remember
them and sometimes they changeit into your own internal
personal voice and, yes, yourbrain will bring it up in a
situation where it's verysimilar or spot on of your
insecurity, where it's verysimilar or spot on of your
insecurity.
So, yeah, she's going toremember this for the rest of
her life.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I'm happy she didn't let it affect her boxing, though
, and she still won, because sheeasily could have been like, do
I need to downplay my skillsnow?
Yeah, that's a good one.
You know what I mean.
Like, do I have to change how Ibox and how I present myself?
Do I need to start looking morefeminine in the press
conferences?
But she didn't, and she justcontinued being herself and she
won.
So I like that happy ending.
Yeah, no, I like that for heras well.
(21:00):
That's good Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
James, did she just SpongeBob laugh?
But no, I'm happy for herCongratulations, so yeah, so let
us really know how you thinkabout this topic.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
It's a divisive one.
It is.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It is, but you have to remember people, kindness,
kindness matters.
They're human beings.
Like, we all have feelings.
And again, she's somebody'schild.
Like would you, if you'rereally struggling with empathy,
can you at least think like whatif this was your daughter?
Mm-hmm, come on, like that,that's awful.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, absolutely yeah .
You got to put yourself inother people's shoes and think,
oh my God, imagine, everyone hasgotten like a random DM or a
comment, a reply, and this isjust one.
And you know how it feels thatpit in your stomach when you're
like someone disagrees with me.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
So now, imagine someone being like kill yourself
.
Man Like that's rad.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Also, like more than one death threat.
That's kind of scary.
Yeah, that's definitely gonnamess with you, and the fact that
she could still pull offwinning gold impressive.
Honestly, she's mentally strong.
I'll give her that.
Oh yeah, algerian a good stock.
Yeah, um, but yeah, no, I feellike you know how, like when you
grow up and they give you likea home ec cooking, all that like
we need, like, um, how to bekind class social media
(22:14):
etiquette for you losers, I'msorry that was funny the way he
said it also stop being a bully.
So no, I think maybe that wouldbe good and and a partial
kindness section in there,because these things you cannot
take these back.
People don't realize.
At least when we did awfulthings like you remember, like
shows would show be like I hatenick.
(22:34):
I wish nick was dead in yourdiary.
But you're not hurting anybodybecause no one is seeing it and
you can take it back.
Just rip the page out.
Yep, that's fine, I get it.
People do need outlets.
I'm not saying don't have anoutlet, but maybe a personal,
private outlet yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So, yeah, please drop comments.
Let us know what you think.
How, maybe, how sports canchange to accommodate for things
like this.
Now that we're able to, I mean,we're just better finely tuned
and picking this stuff up nowthey get tested for, like
everything, olympians yeah solet us know what you think, yeah
, um anything else we want totalk about today.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Well, how has your time been since you've arrived
in the good old usa?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
yeah, it's actually been really good.
So everyone knows like theweather is better here than in
england.
Sorry england, sorry sorry yourpinballs are probably listening
to this.
It's, the weather is justwarmer.
I'm not gonna say it'sobjectively better, because some
people like chilly weather.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Well for me I like england all that because of the
way they have older buildingsand everything, and like we're
talking about weather I know,but we're talking what's
objectively better, not neither,okay, well I'm saying the
weather I I in my opinion, isbetter, but it's not objectively
.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Some people like cold weather, so it's subjectively
better for me.
But it's been great.
Ted is here.
He's been here since friday, soit's only been a few days and
it's great.
Like we went to the boardwalkand walked the beach.
He felt the water.
Um, yeah, it's been really niceand I'm like are you enjoying
it?
Like because it's like a summerall over again for him.
Um, and now it's like withoutwork, you know it's like kids on
(23:58):
vacation.
Yeah, it's like summer break, Iknow, so we're trying to make
the most of it.
We're trying to do everythingwe can do before the child comes
, um, so I'm talking like beachdays, like going down to Kate
May maybe, yeah, just like, yeah, just like we took your kid to
the boardwalk, you know, we'rejust trying to do like fun
kiddie stuff in the sun as muchas I can.
I want to get tan but just wantto expand.
(24:21):
Yeah, we're trying to keep her,you know, feet elevated, yeah so
, yeah, it's been really, reallynice just being like back, and
it's weird because usually we'rehere for like a wedding or
something, so it's like rush,rush, rush, rush, rush and like
you see your family kind ofquickly.
But it's been really nice tojust be like oh, I'm here for
like four months, like I'm justchilling now.
Yes, I mean.
(24:41):
Well, I'm not chilling, I'mabout to have a baby, but is it
strange?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
that you're now living in your sister's
childhood room no, I thought itwould be weird.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
It's actually, it's not different.
It's yeah, it's totallydifferent now, and it's not been
weird at all like we just no,it's been nice, nice yeah nice,
yeah, yeah, all right, so nocomplaints everything's been
really smooth sailing.
I'm hopefully not jinxingmyself, um, but everything has
been okay.
I would just say that, likebecause I'm an obstetrician,
it's like the more I think aboutlabor, the more worried I'm
(25:09):
becoming, and the best thingwould be for me to just like go
into labor so I don't have timeto think about it anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Like the the ruminating will kill me.
You're almost there, so don'tspeed it up, and your belly is
dropping appropriately.
So we're good.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
We're probably gonna be a right on time baby, so that
would be nice.
We need september, because I'vealready.
Oh, shout out to um.
I don't know how they pronouncethis now.
So my friend, anna, and herfriend from work have made um
their own online jewelry company.
They spell it a-n-i-n.
Anine.
Anin, how would you pronounceit?
That's your.
You should know this.
I know I should have asked her.
You should apologize.
I'm sorry, anna, but buteveryone should a-n-i-n.
(25:44):
That's how you spell it.
I'm almost positive, and that's.
Everyone should look them up oninstagram.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
No, it is I hope you didn't pay for the sponsorship.
This is an awful, I know thisI'm.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So this is off the cuff.
I'm sorry, I wasn't prepared,but anna is making me a custom,
so it's all custom jewelry, um,and they will do ANIN, yeah,
a-n-i-n, yeah, and in nyc, okay,cool, yeah, um.
So it's custom jewelry and weneed to get this baby out in
september because, uh, sapphireis involved in my custom jewelry
(26:16):
and that is obviously thebirthstone for September.
So Ted's like, don't go early.
I'm like I'll have to cancel myring order.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
He's like that's what you're worried about.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I'm like I have a ring coming.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
So uh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
So, but anyway, any, if you have any um bracelets,
necklace, earrings, rings, anyjewelry you want custom made.
If you ever thought that'd beso cool and then when you Google
it you can't find exactly whatyou want, they do all completely
custom gemstones, diamonds,anything for a very reasonable
price.
So look them up.
A-n-i-n.
New York is the it's anninnycon Instagram, so everyone,
(26:53):
please use them.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, awesome, uh, instagram, so everyone please
use them.
Awesome, okay, well, I guess wegot to join the ladies on the
patio with their Arizona hardice teas.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Oh yes, the ladies on the patio are our husbands.
We just came back from brunch,obviously, like we said, sober,
and they immediately came backand were like drinks on the
patio, like they are livingtheir best lives.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
They are I'm so jealous I'm going to.
I'm going to have a drink soon.
What would be?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
your go-to first drink Spicy margarita.
Spicy margarita, Whoa you saidthat.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I mean, I didn't get to finish my question, I think
about it all the time, and Idon't drink a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Do you dream about it ?
Probably, I probably have Spicymargarita.
Let's licking my shoulder, thething is I want like a spicy
margarita, like in Cabo, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I want to just go away, you'll be healing and
bleeding and crying, but I candream While you pump.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, I just like.
Just send me spicy margaritas,guys.
Or, if you're from the area,okay, if you're from Ocean or
Monmouth, drop us the bestrestaurant where you got like
best spicy margs.
Let me know honestly, because Ihave a list in my head, but I'm
curious of ours line up.
So send me your recommendationsfor spicy margaritas for real,
because I'm doing a tour.
I'm doing a tour, I'm doing amargarita tour.
(28:05):
I'm just touring.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, when we do the trolley with our family at
Thanksgiving, are you going tobe like oh, spicy margs, it's,
it's, bring your own.
On the trolley it is.
I thought we were dropping upours.
It's a food tour that you bringyour own.
So I am bringing spicy margs,shake, shake, shake.
(28:27):
Yeah, for sure, all right.
Well, with that, please likesubscribe be our friend.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Psychotic py podcast.
Please let us know what youthink about gender in in sports
and how we can handle it moreappropriately.
And spicy mark recommendationsthank you.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Oh, we totally missed Geri's segment.
We spoke to her today, thoughshe was with us, so let's give a
little gem from Geri real quick.
What did she give us today?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
what a value?
Did she tell us, yeah, hasjerry done anything?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
yeah, have you done anything?
Have you done anything about um, wait, wait.
She definitely said somethingcool today, right?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I mean she mostly says something cool.
She had a very busy morning.
She had her physical therapyand then they took in two death
calls at the funeral home.
Unfortunately, she was busy,busy, busy.
Still made it to brunch, though.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, she did like 95 on the parkway.
Girl turned into a speed racerLike I don't think even a
private helicopter ride couldhave beaten her.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I was so impressed.
I was like, oh, it's like 1140and our brunch was 1130.
I was like nice.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, what I can tell you is then, from what Geri's
perspective, is that as soon asBridget pops his kid out, jerry
is going to adopt and take thatchild on like it's her new job,
her new project.
Oh yeah, this is my child nowFor sure.
Well, we don't know if it mighthave a Geri nose, right?
Oh, my god, don't say that.
Nope, everybody loves Geri'snose on Geri, yeah, on Geri,
(29:39):
exactly because it fits Geri'sface.
We don't know.
All we know is that in theultrasound the nose looks big.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I thought it did.
No one said it did, but I waslike, oh that schnoz.
But you have got full lipsright.
Yeah.
Yeah, the lips look nice.
I don't know how accurate, youknow, but I was like, damn,
those lips look plush youimagine, like baby michael jr
pops out.
Oh my god, no, michael's, ourbrother, no, we love you, though
I love you but the big lips.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
He was a good toddler though.
He was so cute, very cute.
Sorry about that haircut thatyou had, but anyway.
So please like, subscribe topsychotic py podcast and do
something for yourselves.
You know, have a self-care day.
Relax.
It's end of summer, like, enjoy.
And once September comes, localsummer, you know, enjoy it oh
God yeah, because we definitelywill be.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, you will find me in this bump on the beach
until I deliver, and then after,even in her diaper, she will be
on that beach.
Oh, that's okay.
Actually, I'll leave you withthis humbling thought I was in
Target yesterday and boughtadult diapers for my postpartum
journey and I walked out withouta bag, just adult diapers in my
hands.
No shame.
I'll leave you with that.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Boom.
All right, have a good summeryeah.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Hags, bye, bye.
Hello and welcome to our podcast.
Welcome to our podcast.
Psychotic P-U-S-S-Y.
I'm high on sugar right now.
We just came back from brunchso I'm buzzing.
Yeah, unfortunately it's notfrom the mimosas.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
No, yeah, definitely no, mimosas.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, we're in jersey and it's breakfast, so there's
no, uh, no drinking.
So welcome to episode six ofseason two of our lovely podcast
that I will wait an appropriateamount of time before I could
say the name, because otherwiseyoutube bans us, or?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
something.
It just won't.
Let us uh put the episode outthere oh, welcome to psychotic
py podcast episode six.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Like I said, I am 38 weeks.
By the time this airs I will be39 weeks.
We're getting there for some ofyou thinking wow, she's been
pregnant for three years, truefeels like it aren't elephants
like two years gestation, yeah,22 to 24 months or something.
Those brave mamas because 10months imagine imagine horrible
(01:03):
um, so yes, by the time thisairs I'll be 39 weeks, probably
like begging to go into labor.
But who knows, I don't know, II can't complain.
It's not really that bad, I'mjoking guys anyways.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So we figured we'd discuss a topic that is hot in
the news right now and give ourperspectives and maybe dive into
a little mental health aspectof it.
So take it away pregnant mama.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
All right.
So I know the Olympics endedtwo weeks ago.
Everybody knows Imani Khalif.
I'm sure they heard the storyof the Algerian boxer who did
end up winning gold.
She was fighting Karini, theAlgerian boxer who did end up
winning gold.
She was fighting Carini Herlast name is Carini, an Italian
boxer, and Carini withdrew fromthe match within 45 seconds and
said she just didn't feel safe,which fair enough on her part.
If you don't feel safe, youshouldn't compete.
(01:54):
That's not the issue.
The issue arises when you havecertain celebrities, like it was
, I think.
Trump, jk Rowling and Elon Muskall hopped on X, formerly known
as Twitter, and without anybasis, said keep men out of
women's sports.
So this is what JK Rowlingtweeted the smirk of a male who
knows he's protected by amisogynist sporting
(02:14):
establishment enjoying thedistress of a woman he's just
punched in the head.
So Imani Khalif is a woman.
She was born a woman.
Also, transgenderism is illegalin Algeria, so she couldn't
have been trans Born.
A woman naturally has higherlevels of testosterone, which,
as we know, some people havegenetic predispositions to these
things, and it's fine.
(02:34):
Some men have more estrogen,some women have more
testosterone.
So what we want to talk aboutis what is the line that we're
drawing?
Because the same thing happenedwith Kastor simenya way back
when, like 20 years ago now, shewas a sprinter who has
naturally higher testosteroneand they, you know, I think they
may have stripped her of sometitles, if I'm not mistaken.
You know, because michaelphelps has a bigger lung
(02:56):
capacity and a longer wingspan,making him like a genetic
swimming freak.
That's a natural born advantageyes, basketball players are
almost seven feet tall.
That's a natural born advantage.
Are we saying it's unfair thateveryone has to be 5 10 and then
you compete in the forbasketball and then, of all the
men who are average height,that's who gets to play.
It's not you know.
So where, where are we drawingthe line here?
(03:18):
Obviously, if it's.
If people feel threatened andthey think they're in danger,
they definitely shouldn'tcompete, and that's fine, that's
completely up to you.
And even karini said like thisis nothing, this is not a
political statement.
I just didn't personally feelsafe, like I felt like I took a
big blow to the head and I justthought maybe I should take a
step back.
Okay, and that's fine.
Um, but are we saying thatevery athlete who has a genetic
(03:41):
advantage should be looked at onthe same scale?
Cause that's not how we, that'snot how we, we do it.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So that's what we're talking about today.
Yes, hearing like JK Rowlingdoing that with like no basis at
all is kind of insane, causeshe is kind of like the maker of
my childhood, yeah, and it justthat just seems really.
I mean I don't know, was shehaving too much to drink at home
and I don't know got?
Just seems really.
I mean I don't know, was shehaving too much to drink at home
and I don't know got reallybold on her phone?
(04:07):
I don't know.
But that's, that's horrible tosay because obviously, as
bridget mentioned, she just isborn with naturally high
testosterone um, not trans atall.
So the implications it has onthis, this poor woman is it's
like, because there was no uh,apology issued, right no, not
from these people, no so likenow.
of course we have no idea whathappens behind the scenes, like
(04:28):
if she was given a callpersonally or a DM, I don't know
.
By the looks of it, probablynot and I think that's just like
you to get on a social platformthat everyone can see and to
not have to like kind of eatyour words and apologize and be
the bigger person and aresponsible adult.
I mean, what are you showingyounger generations?
Like behaviors are just allowed, like that's just you could do
(04:50):
whatever you want and it wasjust the.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
The three of them made such throwaway comments and
it's like that's a real personseems like bullying to me.
Yeah, like that's a realperson's life.
Like monica leaf is not acelebrity, she's just.
You know, like most o, let's behonest, like you don't know the
name of most Olympians.
You know the big ones whorepresent your country and maybe
a few other bigger wealthycountries.
You don't know all they'reamateur athletes.
So this is just a female boxer,you know, from Algeria.
(05:16):
You had never heard her namebefore.
She has a life to go back to andto just make a throwaway
comment like that, think of whatthat has done to her
self-esteem.
And you know then, because theneverybody piles on those
comments and send death threatsand you know people in her life
might be questioning, oh, is shetrying?
You know people who met herlater in life, not as a child,
might be like, oh, my god, Ididn't know amani was like it's
(05:38):
just, it's so effed up to justmake a comment.
You're a celebrity, so to youthat means nothing, it's not
going to affect your life at all, but to her that's her whole
world.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I think also like the death threats, um way over the
top.
You should not be allowed to dothat.
Like that's someone's life,whether you like what they are
or not.
Like even if she was trans.
Like that doesn't, that does.
You don't get to say, well, I'mgonna kill you.
You know you don't get to dothat.
Yeah, completely.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So yeah, we just want to kind of see if people could
drop comments after how everyonefeels about stuff like this.
You know, should it be a caseof her testosterone is checked
before every major event becauseshe was not allowed to compete
in, like, the world boxing eventleading up to the Olympics?
However, she was able toqualify for the Olympics.
(06:25):
So is there a differentstandard for each competition or
is it just that it's the samestandard and her testosterone is
naturally fluctuating and itwas safe enough for her to
compete in the Olympics?
We don't know, but let us knowin the comments, like what you
guys think, like what should bethe standard, because medicine,
healthcare, everything is soadvanced now, like you could be
(06:45):
like right on the spot, what isher testosterone levels at this
moment?
Should we be allowed to do that?
I don't, I don't know.
I mean, where do we draw theline and what line is?
I won't say, is it harassing?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Or should there be, should she be allowed to compete
?
But they have, like, highertestosterone women in their own
category.
Don't know if there are thatmany.
Well, maybe there would be ifthey knew it wasn't like.
So, like, as you saw, this is abig deal, it's a touchy subject
.
Would more people be willing ifthey knew they weren't going to
be targets?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Also a different perspective as a mother if this
was my daughter.
That's so hurtful to hear Likemy daughter is getting death
threats over something that shehas no control over.
Yeah, that is.
It's just really sad and Ithink we all need to remember on
the online space that we allshare to be kind, because
everyone is a human and everyoneis somebody's child, and this
(07:36):
online bullying it just needs tostop.
You're adults.
This is just not a good look.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh my God, it's so insane to just make.
Because that's the problem withthe internet, unfortunately, is
you could just say anything andit's out there and no one's
gonna prove or disprove.
You know, only real, trustednews outlets are gonna do the
digging and find the information.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Brigitte is pausing because her necklace just broke.
Yeah, that was so crazy.
The necklace just like came offof me well, that was weird how
did that happen?
But anyway, I don't know.
We'll focus on that later, but,um, there's like a trend going
on tiktok right now I don't knowif you've heard it where it's
like they'll find things thatare, um, you know good and
they'll be like, oh, this isvery demure, very mindful yeah,
yeah so uh, jk rowling, not verydemure of you, yeah not see how
(08:19):
I'm being very demure, verymindful
Speaker 2 (08:21):
yes, I'm not cyber bullying right, I'm not making
death threats, yes, yes, notvery mindful of you, not very
mindful, yeah, um, and then Iagree with you like to not make
a public apology, like we don'tknow what went on behind closed
doors, but I'm sure I'll googleit right now.
Let's do it.
I'll google it right now.
We're doing it.
No, so angela carini, theitalian, did.
I knew that already, like she.
(08:42):
There's no intention behind it,but she apologized to her, no
one else.
Do Trump another?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's upsetting because you're adults, like they
are celebrities and if peopleare looking to you, you have a
huge following.
So you really need to takeaccountability of your actions.
It's okay to make a mistake.
I'm not saying how dare youeven make that mistake?
You're human, You're effed up,but you do need to.
Then.
I actually just read guys.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I just read on Reddit where someone said well, until
I know all the facts, I'm notgoing to call her a female.
(09:28):
And then someone wrote back tothe Redditor yeah, but normally
when you see a woman you callthem a female.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You don't need, I don't know like let me see your
genetics.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I know, are we going to start walking around with
genetic that you were tested foryour like genotype.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That's so wild playground bullying at best.
You know, this is schoolyardbully, right?
This?
Yeah, this is that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's ridiculous oh my god, like why, all of a sudden,
now everyone needs to be provengenotypically.
I think just this is so wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
We've gone so far I'm sorry, but I don't think enough
of your mommies and daddiesloved y'all um, because there'd
be more kindness in this world.
I know like because that's crazyto me.
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
That is wild, all right, likealso what happened to the times
like our mom was popular, likeif you have to say she'd be like
(10:19):
if you had nothing nice to say,you don't say it at all.
Like there was a time where itwas like very demure to have
manners and it's like verymindful.
And now people are just becauseof the internet, people are
bold and it's just like if youhave nothing nice to say don't
say it, but they want to becauseyou can shout into the void and
no one's gonna disprove.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You get a diary, people get diaries.
Oh my god, that's what you usedto do right.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yes, that's your void's your void.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That is appropriate, then do whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
You're not hurting anybody's feelings Maybe your
own, but get a.
All of you need diary andtherapy for real and maybe
better relationships with peoplewho raised you.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Diary might be the move.
I think you're right about that.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I didn't really think about that and you could even
do.
You feel it's public, so youfeel that get the release.
You could get an online blog,make it private or sharing with
only certain friends, that islike.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Is that not an episode of the office where they
just open up a word documentfor someone?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
That's definitely a.
Thing.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And he thinks he's a website.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
In therapy when I'm.
This is a different topic butsimilar in a sense, where you're
getting things out in the void.
If they're trying to get awayfrom a toxic ex and they can't
stop always texting, I tell themto text themselves or write it
in the notes so it still feelslike it's going through and
you're getting it out.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
That's that classic like write a letter to yourself
thing, Like write a letter,never send it burn it.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, all the boys I've loved before.
Yes, right, isn't that likewe're losing these skills
because social media has made itso popular to just throw all
your opinions online.
Not all of them are good.
Not all of them are good vastmajority I would say vast
majority not that good, keepthem to yourself yes, back to
the diaries, remember we used tohave that password, one where
you had and you're like youcan't steal it.
(11:54):
You don't know the password.
Yeah, you need the fingerprint Iwish people were more secretive
nowadays like now everyonethinks they have some, there's
some philosopher, they have somegreat cutting edge thought you
don't well, we're a now comingup or a generation of
egocentrics, almost right, like,like, because the internet has
made you all feel like your owncelebrity in your own right.
How many likes?
What are you doing?
(12:14):
What are you tagging?
Who are you friends with?
And I, and what trends are youkeeping up with?
How much?
Because, like, for instance, alot of people always are showing
themselves traveling and a lotof people are really secretly
poor.
Yes, but it's a vision whatpeople are showing.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, you you create your own life you want to
portray, which, back in the day,used to just be how you styled
your bedroom like.
This is how I want to portraymyself.
Now.
It is social media.
People are oh my god, you're soright.
People are like, oh, they'rethe perfect couple.
Look at how everything'samazing.
They go traveling.
They always end up divorcethese celebrity couples that you
see.
So how perfect is their life.
What are they doing in the daytoday at home?
(12:47):
Uh, jack shit is what they'redoing, just like the rest of us.
Nothing, oh my god I love.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I actually like to follow the people who, um, like
show you what influencers do tomake you feel better.
So this one time she made it,she was trying to reproduce, um,
a thing that she had donepreviously before.
She was helping de-influenceand she was, like, I want to
show you like my life wasn'tperfect.
So she I used to even look atthis photo, be like, wow, that's
amazing, I wish I had thatmoney.
She, like went to niagara fallsand then it made it look like
(13:15):
her bed was on the water, like,and that the headboard was all
glass.
But then she deconstructed itand showed that she moved all
the table and everything, likeher bed was in the back, like
where a normal hotel is, and shemay put the bed and her and her
partner are very thin.
It was a big square table.
They laid on it, they put theblankets, they staged the
pillows to make it look like abed.
But it was.
She literally made the bedherself, the whole bed,
(13:36):
constructed off the table theyeat on.
She did not have a view of thatoff of her bed and it just goes
to show you that before she wason this whole I'm gonna be a d
influencer she was making peoplefeel really bad and also how
the people are probably seekingout this room and it doesn't
exist I do love the dinfluencing trend.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Just because you're so right, it makes people feel
like, like, like if youde-influence and I'm like, okay,
so everything is obtainable andand fake.
Like you know what I mean.
There's equal parts obtainablegoals and equal parts fake, and
I just I'm always mind blown,but I guess influencing was my
job, I would put that mucheffort in.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I guess, but you also have to remind yourself when
you're having a bad day.
They're called the 1% for areason, right, Because they're
really the minority.
So if you start to see everyoneon your for you page, even
people you went to high schoolwith, looking like they're 1%ers
, it's impossible.
Statistics say you know there'sonly 1%.
So and if really, honestly, Icould go on Instagram today and
(14:33):
almost everybody I follow itmakes it look like they're all
millionaires I know they're not.
Yeah, I do know that I havefriends that are doing well
maybe upper middle class, butnot really far beyond that yeah,
and it always feels likeeveryone's traveling now they.
Well, I will say this see, Ionly post, and maybe this I'm a
victim too.
I only post important memoriesto me for me to keep like an
(14:56):
album, like of the kids.
I only do holidays or big trips, so maybe it's because I only
post that it seems that way.
Um, I can't speak for those whopost non-stop and it's all
trips, but like, I only postwhen I have trips or holidays
see, and I actually if I'm likeaway, I don't post because I'm
like I don't want to be on myphone, I don't always post them
right away, yeah, for safety.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Sometimes I like it that way, I don't want you to be
able to stalk me.
Yeah, no, I totally agree withthat.
I just like won't take photos,like I just don't.
So people are like oh, you wentaway.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I'm like oh, yeah, oh .
I don't always post, obviously,all of them, but sometimes I
like to take photos because meand my little anxiety.
I'm always like what if I'm inthe future and I have dementia
and I want to see my memorieswith my husband and kids, so I
like always take way too many oh, that's cute.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
That's where your son gets it from always like what
if I'm the?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
what if I know that I , as a therapist, I know I need
to work on that?
Um, but yeah, but I'm nothurting anybody like these
bullies, I'm not hurting anybody.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
So we're just gonna kind of like talk about the
mental health aspects, aboutlike what this has done to,
although now that she's a goldmedal winner I'm sure she's very
happy.
Apparently she went home to ahero's welcome in algeria, which
is amazing, so I'm sure she's,like you know, kind of like that
alana mar the um, you know, theamerican rugby sevens player,
or maybe just rugby player.
She was like you know, I don'tcare what you say, because at
(16:11):
the end of the day, I'm the onewith a medal and I'm an olympian
and I feel great.
So hopefully monocleaf is alsofeeling like that.
I hope so, but there aredefinitely mental health
implications.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yes, absolutely.
Depression, self-esteem issues,suicidal ideations.
The problem is, even if shesays she's doing great, we don't
really know right.
Only she knows that.
And what I say, even in couplestherapy don't say something in
a fight you can't take back andthat's something your partner
will ruminuminate about, even ifthey don't tell you.
In their mind for the rest oftheir life they will always
(16:41):
think they thought this about meor because it's something you.
You cannot take back.
Your words you can apologize,but sometimes that doesn't
matter, it's already in theirmind.
They're all.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
This is already their self-doubting thought, and it's
something they very likely werealready self-conscious about it
.
It always is Because you knowyour partner's weakness.
Okay, so Imani Khalifa, let'ssay we're projecting here, but
let's imagine that she's verytall, very tall and I would say
has sharp features, yeah, whichI mean models do too and we
(17:11):
idolize models.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, we love them so what's the difference really?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Just because she chose?
boxing, really just because shechose boxing, because we're not
sexualizing her, she's notsomething that men can, exactly
because she's a tough ass boxer,yeah, so let's imagine she grew
up thinking you know, I am kindof tall and I do have pretty
big muscles and I'm a boxer, soI'm a bit self-conscious.
Like you know, she jokes withher friends maybe like I look
like a man, you know, but herfriends like no, you don't.
Girl, amani, you good.
(17:34):
Now, people she's never methave seen her on tv and the
first thing that they tweetedwas that she's a man.
All of that insecurity isflooding bubbling to the surface
.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Oh, my god, here's the worst part.
What if she would grew upreally idolizing harry potter?
What if, again, we'reprojecting?
What if she was the kid that,like that, got her through some
of the toughest times and thenan author you love came out and
said that nasty shit and didn'tapologize for it?
That's, I think that's.
Even that makes it worse ifit's someone you cared about.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah and it's the fact that she never hurt them.
She never talked about thesepeople.
They're just random celebritieswith a lot of influence
punching down on just an amateurboxer from algeria, that's so
sad.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
That's.
You know what they need.
They all need therapy.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
That's why yeah, it's just like they work on
themselves, and to a lot ofpeople it's just another snippet
in the news, but to her thatthat has changed her life.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I do feel bad.
We need to send her like abasket of care.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I know that we're sorry for our fellow Americans,
oh, my god, she's so, so sad andBrits JK Rowling's, but yeah,
yeah, I forgot Sorry.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Every time I just I just assumed Harry Potter.
Yeah, you're right, yourhusband could take her.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Isn't Elon Musk like Croatian?
I don't even know so yeah, no,I think.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, that's kind of.
It's just hurtful and there's alot of mental health
implications that people don'teven realize or care to realize.
And it is, it is going toaffect her for the rest of her
life.
She's not going to forget this,no way.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Never going to forget it and you're so right about
those things that, like apartner says it doesn't even
have to be a partner.
Sometimes it's like a friend,yeah, yeah.
Do you ever like hear somethinglike, oh, so-and-so said this
about you?
You know, like when you're inhigh school and you're like they
cut me yeah it's like somethingthat you really will think
about.
I have some comments like that.
They're're not.
I will tell you if they cancame.
If they came to my head rightnow, I would tell you them.
(19:18):
You have some.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I don't want to.
You know my kids might listento this one day.
I don't want to.
Yeah, sorry they were.
I could tell you that I was cutdeep and that I ruminated about
them like the whole school year.
Yeah, Cause I definitely havesome that like they're just not
coming to me right voice and asI'm getting ready and I go out,
even when I'm about, I'm like,wow, I look really hot tonight.
(19:41):
This is a great outfit, a goodnew outfit.
That thought will pop up andimmediately self-esteem gone
right before I walk out the door.
So, it still affects me to thisday.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I don't wear eyeliner because Geri said that she
didn't like it on me.
How silly is that?
Is that like I'll let aprofessional makeup artist do it
on me?
I like it on you, but I neverwear eyeliner because she'll be
always like they make your eyeslook too small.
Oh, oh yeah.
How weird is that so I.
I barely know how to puteyeliner on because I just don't
do but like I said, like aprofessional, I'll let them do
(20:09):
it.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It looks good of their look, but I will.
I don't even own eyeliner, soran, I know you just like you
just remember those things yeah,yeah, no, because Geri listens
to our podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
No we love you?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, we're not ragging on, jerry, let's pick someone
else.
But, um, so yeah.
So those things, they will comeup, your brain does remember
them and sometimes they changeit into your own internal
personal voice and, yes, yourbrain will bring it up in a
situation where it's verysimilar or spot on of your
insecurity, where it's verysimilar or spot on of your
insecurity.
So, yeah, she's going toremember this for the rest of
her life.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I'm happy she didn't let it affect her boxing, though
, and she still won, because sheeasily could have been like, do
I need to downplay my skillsnow?
Yeah, that's a good one.
You know what I mean.
Like, do I have to change how Ibox and how I present myself?
Do I need to start looking morefeminine in the press
conferences?
But she didn't, and she justcontinued being herself and she
won.
So I like that happy ending.
Yeah, no, I like that for heras well.
(21:00):
That's good Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
James, did she just SpongeBob laugh?
But no, I'm happy for herCongratulations, so yeah, so let
us really know how you thinkabout this topic.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
It's a divisive one.
It is.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It is, but you have to remember people, kindness,
kindness matters.
They're human beings.
Like, we all have feelings.
And again, she's somebody'schild.
Like would you, if you'rereally struggling with empathy,
can you at least think like whatif this was your daughter?
Mm-hmm, come on, like that,that's awful.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, absolutely yeah .
You got to put yourself inother people's shoes and think,
oh my God, imagine, everyone hasgotten like a random DM or a
comment, a reply, and this isjust one.
And you know how it feels thatpit in your stomach when you're
like someone disagrees with me.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
So now, imagine someone being like kill yourself
.
Man Like that's rad.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Also, like more than one death threat.
That's kind of scary.
Yeah, that's definitely gonnamess with you, and the fact that
she could still pull offwinning gold impressive.
Honestly, she's mentally strong.
I'll give her that.
Oh yeah, algerian a good stock.
Yeah, um, but yeah, no, I feellike you know how, like when you
grow up and they give you likea home ec cooking, all that like
we need, like, um, how to bekind class social media
(22:14):
etiquette for you losers, I'msorry that was funny the way he
said it also stop being a bully.
So no, I think maybe that wouldbe good and and a partial
kindness section in there,because these things you cannot
take these back.
People don't realize.
At least when we did awfulthings like you remember, like
shows would show be like I hatenick.
(22:34):
I wish nick was dead in yourdiary.
But you're not hurting anybodybecause no one is seeing it and
you can take it back.
Just rip the page out.
Yep, that's fine, I get it.
People do need outlets.
I'm not saying don't have anoutlet, but maybe a personal,
private outlet yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So, yeah, please drop comments.
Let us know what you think.
How, maybe, how sports canchange to accommodate for things
like this.
Now that we're able to, I mean,we're just better finely tuned
and picking this stuff up nowthey get tested for, like
everything, olympians yeah solet us know what you think, yeah
, um anything else we want totalk about today.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Well, how has your time been since you've arrived
in the good old usa?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
yeah, it's actually been really good.
So everyone knows like theweather is better here than in
england.
Sorry england, sorry sorry yourpinballs are probably listening
to this.
It's, the weather is justwarmer.
I'm not gonna say it'sobjectively better, because some
people like chilly weather.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Well for me I like england all that because of the
way they have older buildingsand everything, and like we're
talking about weather I know,but we're talking what's
objectively better, not neither,okay, well I'm saying the
weather I I in my opinion, isbetter, but it's not objectively
.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Some people like cold weather, so it's subjectively
better for me.
But it's been great.
Ted is here.
He's been here since friday, soit's only been a few days and
it's great.
Like we went to the boardwalkand walked the beach.
He felt the water.
Um, yeah, it's been really niceand I'm like are you enjoying
it?
Like because it's like a summerall over again for him.
Um, and now it's like withoutwork, you know it's like kids on
(23:58):
vacation.
Yeah, it's like summer break, Iknow, so we're trying to make
the most of it.
We're trying to do everythingwe can do before the child comes
, um, so I'm talking like beachdays, like going down to Kate
May maybe, yeah, just like, yeah, just like we took your kid to
the boardwalk, you know, we'rejust trying to do like fun
kiddie stuff in the sun as muchas I can.
I want to get tan but just wantto expand.
(24:21):
Yeah, we're trying to keep her,you know, feet elevated, yeah so
, yeah, it's been really, reallynice just being like back, and
it's weird because usually we'rehere for like a wedding or
something, so it's like rush,rush, rush, rush, rush and like
you see your family kind ofquickly.
But it's been really nice tojust be like oh, I'm here for
like four months, like I'm justchilling now.
Yes, I mean.
(24:41):
Well, I'm not chilling, I'mabout to have a baby, but is it
strange?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
that you're now living in your sister's
childhood room no, I thought itwould be weird.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
It's actually, it's not different.
It's yeah, it's totallydifferent now, and it's not been
weird at all like we just no,it's been nice, nice yeah nice,
yeah, yeah, all right, so nocomplaints everything's been
really smooth sailing.
I'm hopefully not jinxingmyself, um, but everything has
been okay.
I would just say that, likebecause I'm an obstetrician,
it's like the more I think aboutlabor, the more worried I'm
(25:09):
becoming, and the best thingwould be for me to just like go
into labor so I don't have timeto think about it anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Like the the ruminating will kill me.
You're almost there, so don'tspeed it up, and your belly is
dropping appropriately.
So we're good.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
We're probably gonna be a right on time baby, so that
would be nice.
We need september, because I'vealready.
Oh, shout out to um.
I don't know how they pronouncethis now.
So my friend, anna, and herfriend from work have made um
their own online jewelry company.
They spell it a-n-i-n.
Anine.
Anin, how would you pronounceit?
That's your.
You should know this.
I know I should have asked her.
You should apologize.
I'm sorry, anna, but buteveryone should a-n-i-n.
(25:44):
That's how you spell it.
I'm almost positive, and that's.
Everyone should look them up oninstagram.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
No, it is I hope you didn't pay for the sponsorship.
This is an awful, I know thisI'm.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So this is off the cuff.
I'm sorry, I wasn't prepared,but anna is making me a custom,
so it's all custom jewelry, um,and they will do ANIN, yeah,
a-n-i-n, yeah, and in nyc, okay,cool, yeah, um.
So it's custom jewelry and weneed to get this baby out in
september because, uh, sapphireis involved in my custom jewelry
(26:16):
and that is obviously thebirthstone for September.
So Ted's like, don't go early.
I'm like I'll have to cancel myring order.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
He's like that's what you're worried about.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I'm like I have a ring coming.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
So uh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
So, but anyway, any, if you have any um bracelets,
necklace, earrings, rings, anyjewelry you want custom made.
If you ever thought that'd beso cool and then when you Google
it you can't find exactly whatyou want, they do all completely
custom gemstones, diamonds,anything for a very reasonable
price.
So look them up.
A-n-i-n.
New York is the it's anninnycon Instagram, so everyone,
(26:53):
please use them.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, awesome, uh, instagram, so everyone please
use them.
Awesome, okay, well, I guess wegot to join the ladies on the
patio with their Arizona hardice teas.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Oh yes, the ladies on the patio are our husbands.
We just came back from brunch,obviously, like we said, sober,
and they immediately came backand were like drinks on the
patio, like they are livingtheir best lives.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
They are I'm so jealous I'm going to.
I'm going to have a drink soon.
What would be?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
your go-to first drink Spicy margarita.
Spicy margarita, Whoa you saidthat.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I mean, I didn't get to finish my question, I think
about it all the time, and Idon't drink a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Do you dream about it ?
Probably, I probably have Spicymargarita.
Let's licking my shoulder, thething is I want like a spicy
margarita, like in Cabo, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I want to just go away, you'll be healing and
bleeding and crying, but I candream While you pump.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, I just like.
Just send me spicy margaritas,guys.
Or, if you're from the area,okay, if you're from Ocean or
Monmouth, drop us the bestrestaurant where you got like
best spicy margs.
Let me know honestly, because Ihave a list in my head, but I'm
curious of ours line up.
So send me your recommendationsfor spicy margaritas for real,
because I'm doing a tour.
I'm doing a tour, I'm doing amargarita tour.
(28:05):
I'm just touring.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, when we do the trolley with our family at
Thanksgiving, are you going tobe like oh, spicy margs, it's,
it's, bring your own.
On the trolley it is.
I thought we were dropping upours.
It's a food tour that you bringyour own.
So I am bringing spicy margs,shake, shake, shake.
(28:27):
Yeah, for sure, all right.
Well, with that, please likesubscribe be our friend.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Psychotic py podcast.
Please let us know what youthink about gender in in sports
and how we can handle it moreappropriately.
And spicy mark recommendationsthank you.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Oh, we totally missed Geri's segment.
We spoke to her today, thoughshe was with us, so let's give a
little gem from Geri real quick.
What did she give us today?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
what a value?
Did she tell us, yeah, hasjerry done anything?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
yeah, have you done anything?
Have you done anything about um, wait, wait.
She definitely said somethingcool today, right?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I mean she mostly says something cool.
She had a very busy morning.
She had her physical therapyand then they took in two death
calls at the funeral home.
Unfortunately, she was busy,busy, busy.
Still made it to brunch, though.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, she did like 95 on the parkway.
Girl turned into a speed racerLike I don't think even a
private helicopter ride couldhave beaten her.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I was so impressed.
I was like, oh, it's like 1140and our brunch was 1130.
I was like nice.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, what I can tell you is then, from what Geri's
perspective, is that as soon asBridget pops his kid out, jerry
is going to adopt and take thatchild on like it's her new job,
her new project.
Oh yeah, this is my child nowFor sure.
Well, we don't know if it mighthave a Geri nose, right?
Oh, my god, don't say that.
Nope, everybody loves Geri'snose on Geri, yeah, on Geri,
(29:39):
exactly because it fits Geri'sface.
We don't know.
All we know is that in theultrasound the nose looks big.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I thought it did.
No one said it did, but I waslike, oh that schnoz.
But you have got full lipsright.
Yeah.
Yeah, the lips look nice.
I don't know how accurate, youknow, but I was like, damn,
those lips look plush youimagine, like baby michael jr
pops out.
Oh my god, no, michael's, ourbrother, no, we love you, though
I love you but the big lips.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
He was a good toddler though.
He was so cute, very cute.
Sorry about that haircut thatyou had, but anyway.
So please like, subscribe topsychotic py podcast and do
something for yourselves.
You know, have a self-care day.
Relax.
It's end of summer, like, enjoy.
And once September comes, localsummer, you know, enjoy it oh
God yeah, because we definitelywill be.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, you will find me in this bump on the beach
until I deliver, and then after,even in her diaper, she will be
on that beach.
Oh, that's okay.
Actually, I'll leave you withthis humbling thought I was in
Target yesterday and boughtadult diapers for my postpartum
journey and I walked out withouta bag, just adult diapers in my
hands.
No shame.
I'll leave you with that.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Boom.
All right, have a good summeryeah.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Hags, bye, bye.
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