Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey there everybody.
Pt Pop here With all four ofthose in my brain Taking any
calls like it's a week For everyother customer says guilty
things to me.
I'm a saint never seen my king.
I'm a saint be taking a look atsomething really interesting,
(00:47):
something I've been wanting totalk about for quite a while,
and it's all about music.
Music and the subconscious mind.
I mean, it's pretty wild tothink that those catchy tunes
that we love might be doing morethan just getting our toes
tapping.
Before I dive in, let me ask youto do this.
Just do me a favor and checkout my YouTube channel.
(01:10):
Go to youtubecom forward slashat PTPop and become one of my
subscribers there, where I talkabout conspiracy theories and
life in the corporate world andworking in call centers.
If you want to help supportthis channel, check me out on
Patreon.
Become a Patreon subscriber, oryou can buy one of my products
(01:30):
my books on Amazon under thename of Pete Peter Tompkins, or
you can buy my music on CD Babyor Apple or Amazon Music.
You can also purchase my stockphotography and videos on
Pond5.com under the name SkatingBear Studios.
So if you need any B-rollfootage for a video you're
making on YouTube or a film.
(01:52):
Check me out.
I've got quite a few files onthere and I also take special
requests.
If you have a special B-rollshot, you need to have made.
That you can't do yourself, I'dbe happy to do it for you.
So let's head on to the maintopic at hand today music and
the subconscious mind.
And so this really fascinatesme because, as some of you know
(02:18):
if anybody out there who reallyknows me is listening for many
years I was obsessed with therock group the Beatles.
Just absolutely bonkers out ofmy mind about that band.
Just complete lunatic for thisband.
And for me, it started inFebruary of 1974 when I was a
(02:39):
wee lad and I saw a rerun of theEd Sullivan show.
When the Beatles arrived inAmerica and was on TV in front
of millions of people, they hada special on 60 Minutes talking
about the band, and the minute Iheard this music I ran into the
bedroom.
Then my brother and I shared hewas seven years old and he was
(02:59):
about 14 and I was seven and Irifled through this record
collection because I knew that Iremember seeing this band in
this record collection.
It was mostly jazz records,jazz and big band.
But I remember this band, theBeatles, and their pictures on
the cover of the album.
And from the moment I saw this10th anniversary special on 60
(03:22):
Minutes, I was hooked.
I was like a heroin addict, Imean, I was freaking out of my
mind, crazy about the Beatles,and I don't know what caused it.
And as I grew older, you knowmy fascination with the Beatles.
I guess it kind of matured andit kind of leveled off a little
(03:43):
bit.
I was less interested in my 30sand then in my late 30s it
really began to wane.
And one day I remember I wassitting in our house in Arizona
and I'm like what the hell?
Why did I like them so much?
What was that all about them somuch?
(04:06):
You know what was that allabout?
Because the Beatles music.
When I would hear it, it wouldinstantaneously put me into a
positive headspace.
Now I know what you're thinking.
Now, pete, pete, come on.
You know what's so bad aboutthat.
You were feeling good andthat's the same thing that I
thought you know because when Iwas a kid, you know, we had a
lot of problems in my family.
Both of my parents werealcoholics, we were poverty
(04:29):
stricken, or whatever you wantto call it.
We had no food.
We were on food stamps.
We had been homeless for ashort period of time.
My dad was getting fired fromjobs or being kicked out of
apartments and there's a lot ofemotional and mental abuse.
I didn't get physically abusedby my parents that I can recall.
I know I was never molested bymy dad or my mom.
(04:50):
It goes without question and Iknow I was not physically abused
like beaten.
I was spanked by my mom a fewtimes in my life, but it wasn't
like a regular thing where mydad and mom came home and beat
me.
So when the Beatles appeared onthe horizon in my life, I think
subconsciously, I was lookingfor an escape.
(05:12):
I was looking for some type ofescape from the craziness of two
alcoholic parents and thepoverty and the loneliness of
that time as a little kid.
So when they appeared in mylife, I think I was primed for
something positive like this.
So it did.
It got my toes tapping, it gotme smiling, it got me happy.
It's all I would talk about andI would run home after school
(05:33):
and listen to my Beatle recordsover and over again.
I just played side one and sidetwo of Meet the Beatles, or
Beatle 65 or the Beatles' SecondAlbum, over and over again.
So this is something thatdirectly affected me as a grown
man and as a kid and it shapedmy life.
The Beatles influenced me andthey inspired me to play the
(05:56):
guitar, to write songs, tobecome an artist, to get into
video production.
The Beatles, as well as mymother, who was an artist,
inspired me to go down theartistic pathway.
But the Beatles' influence inmy life was massive.
It influenced almost everyaspect of my life, except for
(06:17):
sexuality, because their songswere sexual.
Thank God, who knows howscrewed up I'd be even more
screwed up I'd be.
Thank God, who knows howscrewed up I'd be even more
screwed up I'd be if they hadsexual connotations or things in
their songs.
So the Beatles had a hugeinfluence on me.
It was a positive one, or so Ithought at the time, and, as
(06:40):
many young boys of the 60s andthe 70s, the Beatles inspired
them to pick up the guitar,inspired them to become
songwriters, inspired them to belike their heroes, whether it
was Lennon McCartney or if itwas, you know, robert Roger
Daltrey or Pete Townsend, or youknow, ray Davies, any of these
people from the Kinks and thewho, mick Jagger, the Stones,
(07:02):
all these people had a hugeinfluence on the direction a lot
of young men and women took asfar as becoming artists, and how
they dressed, how they woretheir hair.
You know I had a beetle haircutwhen I was, you know, eight,
nine years old.
I've made my mom cut my hairlike a beetle.
So as a band, as four guys fromLiverpool, they definitely had
(07:26):
a direct effect on my life.
But when I grew up and I kind ofoutgrew the hypnotism of the
Beatles and the influence, Ibegan to sit back and go why,
what was that all about?
Why did I have that reaction tothis music?
And I think it's fascinating tome.
It's fascinating to me howsound can work on us in a lot of
(07:48):
ways we don't even realize.
I mean, you know we often thinkof music as purely
entertainment.
But it's a powerful force withthe potential to shape our
reality.
And you know, I did someresearch on this and I looked
around and I found this articleon a research paper called it's,
(08:11):
titled Music Effects in theSubconscious Mind, into some
pretty interesting stuff abouthow different frequencies that
are in music can actuallyinfluence our brainwaves and in
turn our moods, our thoughts,even behaviors.
So when I saw this article Iwas like Eureka, I've got an
(08:35):
answer to what was going on inmy life.
So it's true.
So we're going to tackle in thisepisode I'm going to tackle,
not we, but I'm going to tackleall that from the truth about
different frequencies in musiclike about the 440 hertz
conspiracy theory to how trancemusic creates those hypnotic
(08:57):
effects, and even whethercertain frequencies can really
unlock hidden potential, canreally unlock hidden potential.
Now, I'm not going to dive toomuch into the unlocking the
hidden potential thing, becauseI personally found that music
can send you off into the woodsand can knock you off the trail
you're meant to be on,especially if you're like me and
you thought you could become arock star.
(09:18):
There's a lot of guys and galsthat think they're going to pick
up a guitar or play the drumsor the keyboard and never become
rock stars.
That's a whole other story, butit can derail your life.
So so you guys, are you guysready to unpack all of this?
It's kind of deep, but in thisthis leads to a future episode
(09:41):
I'm going to be recording thisMonday.
Today is October 23rd 1965.
No, there's a Freudian slit.
It is October 23rd 2024.
And I just happened to havebeen born 59 years ago.
But on this coming Monday I'mgoing to be interviewing Beatles
conspiracy theorist MikeWilliams, author and owner of
(10:02):
Sejaquay Radio.
He's a world-renowned Beatlesconspiracy theorist.
Mike Williams, author and ownerof Sejaquay Radio.
He's a world-renowned Beatlesconspiracy theorist.
We're going to be talking abouthypnosis and music and how it
affects your mind.
So this kind of all leads intoit.
So let's dive in here today.
Did you know today, did you knowI didn't know this until I did
(10:29):
some research that the humanbrain doesn't fully develop
until you're in your mid-20s?
I did not know that.
And it's true, it's very true.
And I mean I know it takes awhile for everything to settle
up there in the old gray matter.
And you know, I thought, andthey lead you to believe that
(10:49):
once you're 18 and you leavehigh school, you're pretty, you
know, we're pretty much good togo after high school.
You're a grown man, you're agrown woman at that time.
But the brain has not continued, the brain has not fully
developed.
So you're continuallydeveloping.
And that was shocking to mebecause they lead you to believe
that when you turn 18, you cango to college, you start your
(11:10):
life, you can go start a familyand all this stuff.
And based off of this research Idid here that the prefrontal
cortex the part of your brainresponsible for decision-making,
impulse control and reasoningFor most men it's not fully
developed until around the ageof 25.
And for women that same part ofthe brain is usually a bit
(11:34):
earlier, somewhere between 21and 23.
So a lot of us are walkingaround with brains that are
still under construction, if youwant to believe that one.
But that's not a conspiracy,that's a fact.
That's a fact of science.
That is a scary fact of science, because many of us go off and
we fight in wars at the age of18.
We're building buildings, we'restarting families, we're
(11:58):
starting careers, we're makingserious, heavy decisions about
our finances, our lives, thedirection of our lives and our
families.
So, in a way that explains a fewthings, maybe some questionable
fashion choices, especially inmy early 20s.
I wasn't too crazy, but I knowsome people they're pretty wild
(12:21):
the way they dressed in theirearly 20s and some of the social
things I did, people I hung outwith, and some of the choices I
made in relationships andthings I did in my mid to early
20s, early 30s.
But mid to 20s I took some bigrisks sexually, went to some
(12:45):
pretty wild parties and did somewild things in my younger days.
But mid to 20s I took some bigrisks sexually, went to some
pretty wild parties and did somewild things in my younger days.
That I'm probably.
Fortunate I'm not diseased ordead.
But your brain is stilldeveloping and it's incredibly
sensitive to its environment,and you know that includes the
(13:05):
sounds we're exposed to.
So that brings me to the 440hertz.
Let's talk about that frequency.
It's a standard tuningfrequency for most Western music
, meaning most instruments aretuned to this pitch, and so 440
hertz is basically everywhere.
And so 440 hertz is basicallyeverywhere.
(13:30):
But why is that the standardand what effect does it actually
have on us?
Okay, but the adoption of the440 hertz is a standard that
seems to be more aboutpracticality than anything else.
Allegedly Musicians at one timethis is back, I believe, in the
1800s for some reason musiciansneeded a consistent tuning
system so they could playtogether easily.
I guess that makes sense.
(13:51):
There are some who believe that432 hertz is a more natural
frequency or that aligns withvibrations in the universe or
the earth and it's somehowbetter for us, but there's no
real scientific evidence tosupport that.
But here I'm going to play youtones.
(14:13):
I'm going to play you a 440hertz tone and then I'm going to
play you a 432 hertz tone.
And you guys listen and tellyourselves which one sounds more
pleasant to your ear and whatmakes you feel uneasy.
First I'm going to play 432hertz tone and then I'm going to
(14:35):
play the 440 hertz tone.
And I took this recording offof a TikTok channel named at
online sound underscore net.
And if you listen to this, I'mgoing to play it through once.
Think of how you feel.
First with the 432, then the440.
(14:56):
So this is the 432.
That's 440.
We'll do it again.
Here's the 432.
Then the 440.
(15:24):
And when I hear those sounds,I'm telling you the 432 is more
calming.
440 does something weird to mybrain.
My brain kind of like gets kindof like frantic or something
weird like that.
What do you guys think?
And it's really obvious to me.
Maybe I can hear it because I'ma musician.
I'm a musician, but there'sdefinitely there's.
(15:56):
Some say that the tones werechanged for a specific reason,
but the 432 hertz is supposedlybetter for us, but who knows?
But as for the effects of 440hertz, research shows it can
stimulate dopamine release inthe brain and dopamine is
associated with pleasurePleasure.
Part of the brain is associatedwith pleasure and reward.
So this might be why manypeople find music tuned to 440
(16:18):
hertz to be pleasing orharmonious.
Now see, I don't find that.
I find 432 hertz, when you hearthese tones, is much more
pleasing to the ear than 440.
Interesting, right.
So no sinister plot behind 440hertz, but it definitely has an
impact on our brains.
So why would they all of asudden go?
(16:40):
Oh, let's tune everything to440 hertz.
So there is a conspiracy outthere that Rockefeller, john D
Rockefeller, read about thisresearch.
He read about the research.
There's research done betweenthe two different frequencies,
440 and 432 hertz, andRockefeller's ears perked up, so
(17:07):
to speak.
And there's allegedly thisconspiracy claims that the
Rockefeller Foundation pushedfor 440 hertz to manipulate mass
consciousness, supposedlysuppressing the more beneficial
432 hertz.
And it was allegedly that 440hertz it was alleged.
(17:32):
It was implied in some of thestudies I saw that 440 hertz
makes people more aggressive andthey wanted people more
aggressive.
They wanted them morefrustrated.
It would help manipulate themmore, keep them more zombified
and pushed into more aggressivedirection, kind of like a bunch
(17:54):
of robots.
But the theory lacks anycredible historical or
scientific evidence.
The International Organizationfor Standardization officially
adopted 440 hertz in 1955.
I don't know why they did thatI didn't dive too deep into that
but it appears to have beendriven by the need for
(18:15):
standardization, not some hiddenagenda.
But why do you need astandardization?
You know, I guess if you gotinstruments tuned to different
frequencies, I guess there'd bedissonance, you know, an oral
dissonance.
That would create, I guess,craziness in people's brains or
their ears, I don't know.
(18:36):
So I'm glad we cleared that up.
Conspiracy theories can bedistracting, especially when
they call everything conspiracytheories.
Everything's a conspiracy.
Now, so far I'm finding out,the conspiracy theorists are
just about 100% right abouteverything and the other guys
are batting zero, if you knowwhat I mean, just had a little
(19:00):
drink of coffee there.
But so 440 hertz right now isthe most common.
But there's obviously a wholespectrum of frequencies in music
.
I mean that's what makes musicso rich and varied.
I mean you have bass tones, youhave mid-tones, you have high
frequencies, you have the bass,guitar, vocals.
(19:20):
You know, just speakingstrictly about pop music.
Everything is vibrating at adifferent frequency and each
frequency range can have adifferent effect on each person,
each of us.
I mean, think about the bassfrequency that I mentioned, for
example, the low rumbling soundsthat you practically feel
vibrating in your chest, likewhen I'd go into a nightclub in
my 20s and my 30s.
Oh my God, playing that trancemusic, just thumping against my
(19:43):
chest and all those strobelights and kinky, freaky people.
Oh my God, it was like walkinginto euphoria, just pure, pure
evil.
Euphoria of just booze anddrugs and dancing and freakiness
.
It was just like whoa, there'snothing like it, man.
But you feel that vibratingsound in your chest and that's
(20:08):
what gives the music its punch,that's what gives the foundation
or the structure that thismusic is built off of, of
hip-hop, techno, electronicdance music.
All that stuff is just boom,boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, you know, and it's a veryhypnotic sound and feel and you
(20:30):
know, and of course you can'timagine a good dance track
without a driving bass.
You know, it's like a sonicheartbeat.
Think about how it affects youphysically, not just mentally,
but it physically moves yourbody.
If you're ever in a bar andyou're standing anywhere near
the bass.
What's coming out of the bassguitar's amplifier?
(20:50):
It's hypnotic, it really is.
And then you have the mid-rangeof music.
I mean frequencies where mostvocals and melodies live in a
songscape or in the soundscape.
The range is all about clarityand emotional expression.
And finally, the highfrequencies and brightness, like
(21:11):
the hi-hat or the crash cymbalsof the drum kit.
I mean they're prominent inthings like, like I said,
percussion and effects.
So it's like music is a sonictapestry woven from all these
different threads of sound, eachwith its own unique texture and
color.
But going back to thesubconscious for a moment, the
(21:34):
research said and it mentionedsome other frequencies, like 432
that I mentioned before, thatare thought to have a specific
effect on our subconscious mind,and you've got to ask yourself
what's the deal with that.
Okay, think about music.
Music is everywhere you go today.
Music is in all the malls, it'sin every restaurant, it's in
(21:58):
your and I'm just talking aboutmusic Like when I was a little
kid in the 70s, you hadinstrumental tracks playing
through a crappy mono speaker inthe ceiling of a grocery store.
You know it was just like do,do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,
do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,do.
(22:19):
That's my rendition ofRaindrowski, falling on your
head.
But nowadays it's loud, it'scoming through highly engineered
speakers, commercial speakers.
You can't go into a restaurantwithout screaming over the music
, especially if you go into someof the more commercial places
like TGIS or Applebee's orplaces like that.
(22:43):
But even when I go to theseoutdoor malls, there's speakers
in the sidewalks and in concreteposts blasting music.
Everywhere, everywhere you go,there's music.
And I'm walking around, likewhy why do we have all this
music playing all the time?
Walking around like why, why dowe have all this music playing
(23:03):
all the time?
So some of these otherfrequencies.
While 432 hertz isn't thestandard, some people believe
and studies have shown that ithas a more natural and calming
effect.
They suggest it might alignwith the body's own vibrations
and create a sense of peace andharmony.
However, the scientificevidence for these claims is
still pretty limited.
(23:24):
I don't know if I believe that.
I've got to do more research onthat, because when I listen to
these different tones, I feelmore peaceful when I hear 432
compared to 440.
Now, when I was a kid learningto play the guitar in the eighth
grade, ninth grade, my teachermaybe tuned my guitar to a
pitchfork that was at 440, andhe had me tune it to 440A.
(23:45):
I'm not certain.
He didn't say why I still havethe tuning forks in one of my
old guitar cases, but it makessense.
I mean, you know, thisdefinitely sparks my curiosity,
you know so.
And what's really intriguing isthe idea that certain
frequencies can actually inducespecific brainwave patterns,
(24:07):
tapping the different states ofconsciousness.
For example, there are thetawaves which fall between four
and eight hertz and they'reassociated with deep relaxation,
meditation, even hypnosis.
So music designed to emphasizethose frequencies might actually
make you more receptive tosuggestion.
So if you're hearing music likethat and somebody in the
(24:28):
background is saying you know,paul is dead, turn me on dead
man, turn me on dead man, youmight be more susceptible to
hear subliminal messaging ordirect messaging to program you
to do maybe nefarious things,who knows?
And that's kind of how guidedmeditation tracks work.
(24:50):
It's not just soothing sounds,they're manipulating your brain
waves.
So in a way it's about trainingyour brain to follow a specific
rhythm, gently guiding ittowards a desired state, a state
of mind.
I mean.
Think about like rocking a babyto sleep.
The rhythm motion helps tosoothe and calm them.
Well, if somebody rocked me tosleep every night, that'd soothe
(25:12):
and calm me as a grown man.
But I haven't found a woman bigenough to hold a 200-pound man
in her arms and rock him backand forth.
That'd be kind of kinky, baby,oh behave.
So it's amazing, but it'sunnerving that this is happening
in our brains when we'relistening to music and you've
got some people say well, pete,that's just a byproduct, that's
(25:35):
just kind of what happensbecause of the music.
How do you know there'sintention behind it?
And that's where I'm trying tofigure out is there an intention
behind the music?
Because they know it has thiscontrol in our brains.
I hypothesize and I theorizethat, yes, these big, massive
record companies need to sellrecords number one, make money,
(25:58):
but they're also pushing agendaswith these rock bands or these
rap artists or whatever ithappens to be rock, thrash metal
, whatever it happens to be.
They're pushing an agenda,they're pushing fashion, they're
pushing an attitude and if youcan get young minds that aren't
fully developed yet, beforethey're 25 or 26, to believe
(26:22):
that they need to dress likethis, act like this and buy this
music, these record companiesare making billions, if not
trillions, of dollars off ofmanipulating your mind and
they're pushing agendas, socialagendas, on the world.
So it's kind of unnerving whatthis can do.
So there's an alpha wave rangewhich sits between 8 and 14
(26:45):
hertz.
Alpha waves are linked to astate of calmness I'm sorry,
calm, alertness, making themideal for focus and creativity.
Think about the music you listento while working or studying.
Chances are it incorporateselements that emphasize the
alpha frequency range.
That's not true for me.
When I was a kid I was alwayslistening to rock music, whether
(27:07):
it was the Beatles or I hadlike a light rock 103.5 on the
radio, or a magic 105.7 here inCleveland or 98.5 WGCL listening
to the greatest classic rockhits of 1960s, 70s and 80s.
You know all that junk.
So I've definitely noticed thatcertain types of music help me
(27:29):
concentrate while others justdistract me.
Like my wife listens toclassical music when she's at
work.
She works down the hall here athome.
She works from home most of thetime, which reminds me I've got
to leave here in about fiveminutes to go pick her up.
And so there's certain types ofmusic which help me concentrate
and others that distract me.
(27:50):
It's like my brain is sayingnope, not the right vibe for
focus mode baby.
And then I discovered thesefrequencies I had never heard of
and I hope I'm not butcheringthe name, but these are called
solfege S-O-L-F-E-G-E solfegefrequencies.
(28:16):
I don't know if anybody outthere has ever heard of those.
They're labeled as being thoseancient tones with healing
properties and each of thesefrequencies are associated with
a special benefit.
For example, 396 hertz isbelieved to help release fear.
(28:38):
528 hertz is said to promotelove and healing, and so on.
Now it's important to mentionthat the scientific consensus of
sulfage of frequencies is stillout there.
There's a lot of anecdotalevidence from people who claim
these tones have healed them orpositively impacted their lives,
(29:00):
but I guess there's noscientific proof to it and
you'll see a lot of these thingslike on YouTube.
You'll see.
You know, listen to musichealing music for your mind,
listening to healing music foryour liver and things like that.
Listening to healing music foryour liver and things like that.
And you put it on all this newage music with soundscapes and
(29:21):
washes from left stereo to rightstereo spectrum and things like
that, and it's prettyinteresting.
So but like a bit like 300, I'msorry, 432 hertz.
The jury's still out and again,there's no definitive
conclusions to much of this, butthe power of sound is very,
(29:46):
very powerful.
But speaking of which, let'smove on to something that ties
into all of the trance music.
Now, we all know about trancemusic.
When you go into the dancenightclubs and I used to go to
these things and there'd bestrobe lights and black light
and people dressed in vinyl andjust crazy stuff going on and
just all kinds of things.
And trance music I mean thisgenre of music is practically
(30:10):
built around hypnotic effectsand it's intentionally supposed
to put you into a hypnotictrance of some sort.
And is there something specialabout trance music?
You might ask yourself, whatfrequencies do they use that
creates this almosttrance-induced experience?
Well, trance music producersare masters at manipulating
(30:35):
sound to create truly immersiveexperiences.
And I can tell you this, like Itold you, when you walk into
these crazy nightclubs, thesedarkly lit nightclubs, these
fetish parties and things andraves that I used to go to,
you're just immersed in soundand visual experiences.
It's almost like walking intoanother universe.
(30:55):
It's mind-blowing.
It was a lot of fun, I have toadmit.
It was a blast.
But one key element is thesteady beat, and the beat of
trance music is typicallybetween 120 and 140 beats per
minute and it creates a rhythmicfoundation that gets you moving
, almost like a heartbeat.
You can dance to Imagine that.
(31:16):
So they're trying to be incadence with your heartbeat.
So if the music is talking toyour heart you're feeling it in
your heart it must do somethingto your mind and your body.
So there's the deep bass ofthis music, the deep boom-da
(31:43):
hitting you right in the chest.
Yeah, it's like creatingphysical sensations that
resonate with your body.
And it's not just about theindividual elements but how
they're combined.
Trance music often uses layersof sound, so they combine the
beat and the rhythms with layersof sound to put you in a wash
(32:06):
of sound in a nightclub or in aheadset or in your room,
wherever you're listening to it.
And what this does is it builds.
It's a sound that is like abuild and a release, creating a
sense of tension andanticipation that plays with
your emotions.
And what this does is it builds.
It's a sound that is like abuild and a release, creating a
sense of tension andanticipation that plays with
your emotions.
It's almost like sexual teasingor an orgasm, I would say.
(32:28):
I mean it was mind-blowing to goto these parties.
I've been to them and I'mtelling you I haven't been to
any since then, since the 1990s,but they very vividly etched in
my brain.
And then they use repetitionand subtle variations of the
(32:48):
beat and sounds over and overagain, which keeps your brain
engaged in a sync with the music.
So they're in sync with yourbrain, they're in sync with your
heart, kind of sneaky there,huh.
So it's like they'repractically hacking our brains
right With sound and rhythms andit's both amazing and it's kind
of creepy, if you ask me.
(33:09):
It kind of is, and I've beenthere, I've been to these
parties, and what I think isfascinating is this isn't just
trance music, but it'sfascinating how they can create
the experience that can be socaptivating and, as I said, I
get lost in the rhythm of thatmusic.
(33:29):
But you get lost in any type ofmusic, like you're totally in
the moment, nothing else matters.
I've been to just regularconcerts where you hear the
music, you feel the music andyou're totally absorbed in it.
So now I'm starting tounderstand and hopefully I'm
helping all of you come out ofthe rabbit hole on Granted Truth
of Time how these productiontechniques contributed to that
(33:55):
feeling and it really is makingme think differently about the
music I listen to, and it has.
For years I've really reanalyzedmusic in general.
I don't listen, believe it ornot.
I don't listen to music verymuch anymore.
I stopped listening to.
I don't listen to the Beatlesalmost at all, and occasionally
I'll throw on a Clapton song orI'll put in some James Taylor,
but I don't listen to much else.
I listen to a lot of jazz.
(34:15):
So that's what we're here for,so that's what I'm here for to
dig a little deeper andunderstand how things work.
And this highlights how music ismore than just sounds.
It's a wonderful tool that candeeply affect our brains and our
(34:38):
bodies at a deep level and ouremotions.
And this brings up aninteresting question what if we
could consciously use music toenhance our mood, focus or even
our creativity?
That would be great.
Like music becomes sonictherapy tailored to our specific
(34:59):
needs.
And I mean imagine, instead ofjust passively consuming music,
we become more mindful of thefrequencies we're exposing
ourselves to.
We could choose music thataligns with our own desired
mental state, almost likechoosing the right tool for the
job, so like if I'm feelingstressed or anxious, I could put
on a playlist that emphasizesthose calming alpha waves and we
(35:22):
talked about almost like sonicaromatherapy.
But I guess the point of mything here is not the positive
side of it.
What about the evil side of themusic industry?
What if the musical industry ismanipulating and using these
soundscapes to manipulate thepopulations of the world without
(35:45):
them knowing about it?
They're not conscious of it,other than trance music, where I
think you listen to musicintentionally to listen to it.
So there's something calledbinaural beats, that the beta
frequency range which isassociated with alertness and
concentration, and those arehappening when you listen to two
(36:09):
slightly different frequencies,one in each ear.
So they spread the stereospectrum between the two
channels, left and right, andthey have one frequency in the
left, one frequency in the rightand your brain perceives a
third beat in the middle.
This is really done inproduction studios, music
(36:31):
production studios, and thebinaural beat, which is the
difference between those twofrequencies, like a phantom beat
, and depending on the frequencyof that beat, it can influence
your brainwave activity.
So your brain is basicallycreating its own beat, and I
think that's wild.
(36:51):
Your brain is basicallycreating its own beat and I
think that's wild and I thinkthat's scary.
I mean, if they know.
If they know these producersknow to put one frequency in one
ear and another frequency inanother ear and it creates a
third frequency in the middle.
Imagine what that's doing toyour brain.
Most of the research I foundsaid that it was a positive
(37:12):
thing.
So I think I'm oversimplifyingthings a bit.
I mean, music is so complex andeach individual's response to
it is varied, so really it allboils down to specific
frequencies.
This is kind of aone-size-fits-all approach I'm
(37:37):
taking here, but certainfrequencies have general effects
but others have more specificeffects.
So it's more than about beingaware of the potential effects
of different frequencies andexperimenting with what works
best for you Now.
But my point is, if you'relistening to music now,
(37:58):
regardless of whether it's jazzor your pop or rock or thrash or
acid rock or hypnotic music, beaware of what it's doing to you
and how it's conflicting withyour brain, how it's affecting
the different portions of yourbrain, your emotions.
Now I'm just talking aboutfrequencies.
(38:19):
Now.
I haven't gotten into thedifferent key structure of music
major and minor keys.
That's just basic music theory.
But I'm trying to give youawareness of the frequencies at
play and their potential impacton your mind and body.
It definitely does, and it'slike unlocking a secret code
(38:41):
within music.
It's not.
It's not a secret code to theproducers of the music.
This is a secret code to usthat many people are just
finding out about, and so so letme go back a little bit and
talk about the sulfagefrequencies.
(39:04):
These frequencies are a set ofsix tones that are believed to
have ancient roots.
Some people believe they wereused in Gregorian chants and
that each tone has a specifichealing property.
For example, 528 hertz is oftenreferred to as the love
frequency and is associated withtransformation in DNA repair.
(39:25):
So if you listen to this, youcan find these type of videos on
YouTube.
You can look up 528 hertz music.
It'll say you know, this willheal your body, heal your DNA,
and it was used to repairdamaged DNA after the Chernobyl
disaster.
But again, everything I foundsaid that was highly disputable,
(39:48):
highly disputed.
So who knows?
So it's like the sonic healing,you know, and you can heal from
the music and you can feelbetter from the music.
But the record companies arevery aware of the psychology and
the chemistry and thephysiology of music and they
(40:12):
definitely know how tomanipulate the sound.
And if you think back to the1950s and 60s when they corded
to analog tape, they only had somany tracks to record on, they
only had so many ways totransmit the music.
Nowadays you have this crystal.
In old days the music was kindof rough sounding, had a kind of
(40:36):
an edge to it, a warm sound toit.
Now today music is highly,highly, highly produced and
polished and manufactured.
It's a crisp, clean sound.
You can hear every singleinstrument when you listen to a
current song.
You can hear the bass clearly,you can hear the drums, you can
hear the piano, the guitars, thevocalists, the harmonies.
(40:58):
You can hear it all in thestereo spectrum.
And in the old days youcouldn't really decipher all the
instruments, especially thebass.
The bass was kind of mixed downinto the beat.
It wasn't prominent in a lot ofthe records back then because
you had monophonic records backthen and they had to squish all
the sound into one channel.
(41:21):
So hopefully this is helping yousee that the music that you're
listening to, it doesn't have tobe healing music, it doesn't
have to be trance music.
Music in general isintentionally produced to create
a certain effect in thelistener's mind and their body
to get them to buy records,number one but also to think and
(41:45):
feel differently.
And again, I'm not going to godown minor key, but if you
listen to songs with minor keysit makes you feel sad.
If you're ever in the grocerystore and all of a sudden you
hear a sad rock song, come on,like a sad love song, you'll
start to feel sad.
I heard it today.
I was at the gym and I heard asong by Journey and I can't
remember what the name of thesong is, but I didn't really
(42:08):
hear it consciously, but I knewit was going playing.
It was in the locker room and Istarted to feel really down,
like what's wrong with me.
And then I heard the song like,oh shit, this reminds me of
high school, because Journey wasbig when I was in high school
in the 80s and this is some,like you know, love song from
when I was a kid and I waspining for some young lady or
something like that that didn'twant to go out with me anymore.
But knowing this informationabout how music affects your
(42:34):
emotions and your brain is yoursecret weapon now.
They've been using it on us fordecades and I feel that, if I
can let you all know about that,you'll be more aware of what's
going on when you're feelingcertain ways when you're
listening to music.
(42:58):
And there's a lot of differentthings we can go into.
And I think there's anotherthing that they're using that
affects your brainwaves a greatdeal and it's unlike binaural
beats, which reroute headphones,which require headphones, not
reroute them, but requireheadphones.
There's chronic tones, orsingle tones, which are pulsed
(43:22):
on and off at a speed, frequency, a specific frequency.
So it's kind of like a pulse ofsound, you know, like that, and
the pulsing creates a rhythmiceffect that can train your brain
waves, train your brain waves.
It's like a strobe light effectwith sound and it causes your
brain waves to synchronize withthe rhythm.
So it's more direct approach tobrain wave entertainment than
(43:47):
binaural beats.
So what I'm getting at here,without going too much more into
the woods lost in the woods andthe weeds about this, is we've
covered a lot of ground.
But if you're aware of what'shappening with music, what's
happening with your mind, what'shappening with your emotions,
(44:09):
turn on the radio, turn on yourmusic player, your MP3 player,
whatever it happens to be.
Go on the radio, turn on yourmusic player, your mp3 player,
whatever it happens to be.
Go on the internet and startlistening to music and start to
be aware of how it's affectingyour mood, your emotions, your
thought process, your heart,your body.
Because I'll tell you what.
All those years ago, when Idiscovered the Beatles, they
(44:31):
completely changed me.
They completely took over mymind and my body and I didn't
seem to have any control.
I was obsessed with this bandand I think it's amazing.
I wonder, doesn't it make youwonder?
Was there something in theirmusic that made me go into a
trance of some sort?
Was there something that theyintentionally put into music
(44:52):
that was subliminal, that madeeach and every person around the
world lose their mind?
Was it that simple?
Was there, like a dog whistlesound, a frequency of some sort
that spoke to our brains, thatthey mixed into the music to
make them so incrediblyirresistible?
It could be possible.
I'm not saying that's what'shappening, but I think, as we
(45:15):
uncover more fascinatinginsights about how music shapes
our reality, we're going to findout, and it's mind-blowing when
you stop and think about it.
We've been listening to Elvisand Sinatra and the Beatles and
the Stones and the who andeveryone's like yeah, oh my God,
oh my God.
And like why?
What makes us?
Yeah, oh my God, oh my God.
And like why, what makes us?
(45:38):
Are we that desperate and needyas a race that we need these
icons to look up to and go crazyover?
And no, I don't think so.
I think they somehow havemanipulated the sound to get us
to buy records.
I think it was one of theprimary things.
But look at all how culture haschanged since rock and roll hit
After the war, world War II,that is, our culture completely
went down the toilet.
Families fell apart, kidsstarted growing their hair long,
(46:02):
hippies came about All of asudden.
Drugs were everywhere.
It's pretty crazy when youthink about it and I think rock
and roll.
It's pretty crazy when youthink about it and I think rock
and roll.
This is just my hypothesis andthis is just my opinion, but
rock and roll played a heavypart in changing our culture.
Where did it come from?
(46:24):
Were kids really in such a badshape with the old-fashioned
post-war father figure at thehead of the family and the
mother working in the kitchen?
And were kids that bad?
They had to talk about theirgeneration and they had to
revolt against the common daystructure.
Why did everybody go after thestructure of the American family
?
(46:46):
And music can do a lot of things.
It can transfer you back intime, mentally and emotionally,
and take you to another time andplace.
It can put you into the future.
It's good at triggeringmemories and emotions, and there
are researchers that believethat music is processed with
multiple areas of the brain, andI'm not certain how.
(47:10):
They don't know this, whereit's all processed yet but the
brain gets completely consumedby sound.
So that's my whole thing.
And this leads up to my nextshow, which is going to be with
Mike Williams of Seiji KoeiRadio, and he is a licensed
hypnotherapist and he's going totalk with us about some of
(47:34):
these very same things, abouthow music can put you in a
trance, put suggestions in yourmind, wreak havoc with your
subconscious mind, and it's avery powerful tool that the
music world has used tomanipulate its audience.
Because, when it really comesdown to it, I can't.
(47:54):
Personally, I can't listen tothe radio anymore.
There's something about thefrequency of AM radio that bugs
my brain.
As I've gotten older, I can'tlisten to music anymore.
I can't stand listening tomusic.
I don't listen much, as I said,and I really find that it's
very strange.
As I've gotten older and I'vebecome more aware of the sonic
landscape of music and I'vebecome more aware of the
(48:16):
manipulation of music by therecord companies and the
producers, I'm less susceptibleto the programming and
conditioning.
And think about it.
I go to a 12-step programcalled Adult Children of
Alcoholics and there was a guygiving a story in this meeting.
It's a 12-step program forpeople whose parents are
alcoholics and this guy wassaying yo man, I get so
(48:39):
depressed and I sit in my roomand I listen to Pink Floyd and I
get deeper and deeper in mydepression.
And you're not allowed to sayanything to these people.
You can't comment or guide them, but I want to say well, don't
listen to Pink Floyd, dude.
That's some depressing shit.
That music is some reallydepressing stuff.
Well, on that note, I think it'stime to wrap up this deep dive
(49:01):
into frequencies and its effecton the subconscious mind
Frequencies in music andsubconscious mind and I thank
you all for listening to mypodcast and it's been an
absolute pleasure exploring thiswith each and every one of you.
Keep an eye out for my nextpodcast with Mike Williams of
(49:22):
Sage of Clay Radio, where wetalk about the hypnotic effect
of music and I bid you adieu andI hope you all have a great day
and I just hope you have agreat rest of the year and great
week.
I'll be the same baby.