Discovering Sonny's Path From Tailor To Golf Meme Sensation

Join us as we welcome Instagram Golf Creator Sonny to Pull Hook Golf, exploring his journey into the sport and Instagram success. We discuss LIV Golf, TGL events, and TV highlights, including Matsuyama's appearance. Enjoy stories of Sonny's ice cream truck adventures and Buttsy's driving antics. We delve into the Cognizant at PGA National, LIV Golf, and betting odds for the Cognizant Classic, complete with hosts' picks. Speculation on Bryson DeChambeau's contract and LIV rumors, a failed unification meeting, and Peter Malnati's comments offer insights into LIV's future. We wrap up with Brooks Koepka's status and the Hero World Challenge, ending on an emotional note.

Episode Transcript

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Now if anybody's wondering, who is this Sonnyguy?
Baseball was my whole life back then, you know,until I turned about 12, and I ended up being a
late bloomer.
I'm a full-size man now.
COVID hit.
And right before that, I had started a memepage, GroupChat Golf.
I actually owned a dry cleaners and a tailorshop in between there too for three years or
two.
And most people don't know that I'm botheither.

(00:21):
So I'm gonna need some sunblock, my man.
I knew you'd have it.
Oh god.
That's good.
Please, guys.
They're like, oh, those are our
The Marshal and the starter are two differentguys too.
I think the Marshal has to be the yeller.
You know?
He's gotta go confront people out on thecourse.
He's a special person to be able to do that.

(00:55):
Welcome back everybody to Pull Hook Golf, thepodcast.
I'm your host, Matt Cook.
Tonight, we've got the Buttsy.
Woah.
The people really got after that one for you,Buttsy.
Always the same guy.
We

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we have and don't your eyes aren't confusingyou.
This is not Brent Grant.
This is our special guest tonight who goes bythe Instagram handle of Officially Sunny.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you.
Very nice.
Happy to be here.
Honored, really.
I mean, my god.
We're happy to have you.
This is going to be an awesome episode.

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And what a time to jump on to because we've gotsome breaking news that happened today.
But, folks, we're gonna go over with the teeoff report with Buttsy.
They were gonna set the table here foreverybody.
So in case we've got some new listeners orwatchers, we're gonna start with the tee off
report with Buttsy.
Then we've got our special guest, Sonny, herewho, yeah.

(01:57):
We'll we'll get into you, Sonny.
And this is gonna be a lot of fun tonight.
We've also got a TGL recap because there havebeen three matches, and, actually, one's going
on right now while we're recording this.
We've also got the upcoming Cognizant Classic.
So you gotta be cognizant around this classicbecause it's gonna be one hell of a golf
tournament out there.
See what I did there, Buttsy?

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See what I did?
It's incredible.
Daniel's coming back.
We've also got some big-time Bryson DeChambeaunews and updates that we broke earlier today.
We're gonna get into the sources and where thatall came from, the credibility behind it and so
forth at the very end of this episode.
And as I was just mentioning, we also just gota text message from the same source around

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somebody else, a little Brooks Koepka actionthat we will find out about in addition to
that.
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A desert lobster.

(03:44):
I guess, yeah, you could
say.
Kind of
desert lobster.
Oh, man.
And we've got a whole audience right now in theshow that is all chiming in.
We absolutely love it.
Kyle over at Car Barn Guys.
We've got Brian Shane tuning in here.
We've got Truck Golfer.
We've got Austin Whittington.

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Where's Austin?
There he is.
We've got Golfer HD.
Giving you guys a little bit of a shout-outhere tonight.
So thank you for joining, adding in yourcomments throughout.
But let's get into the tee-off report withButtsy, how we normally get started with these
episodes.
Buttsy finds a way to really ease us into thiswhole night.
So, Buttsy, you know, we were out there onSunday playing a little thing called golf,

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which, you know, is a new experience for me.
I haven't been out there since November, so itwas quite a great time out there.
But, Buttsy, tell me.
Well, I'm gonna back up a little.
I hadn't seen you in a while, and youdefinitely haven't been maybe probably going
outside, period.
And I'm
pretty sure legs.
Yeah.
Well, maybe set out to go to a tanning booth orsomething.

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Like, you look like a fucking cadaver walkingaround out there.
You really did.
Like the movie Powder.
Like, that's an old reference, but, like, youwere very albino.
Like, it was cool.
It was cool.
Like a zombie.
What was the question?
Let's start off with that first question onceagain here.
So we were out there on Sunday.

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We saw a gentleman driving around quite a bit.
But what are your thoughts on golf coursemarshals?
Yeah.
Classic, you know, not really doing shit and,like, occasionally looking at a fucking
clipboard with nothing on it.
And this looks okay.
Then driving off again.
Look.
I found this out.
So I ran a course for a very brief amount oftime, and we're doing staffing.

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And they hand me everybody that's on the books,and you're going through payroll, and you're
looking at all this shit.
And I was like, well, who are all these guys?
And I'm like, oh, those are our marshals.
Yeah.
They don't, like, really work here, per se.
They're more like, you know, volunteers.
I'm like, this has gotta be, like, some sort oflabor law or some bullshit, but I like the
idea, I would say, of a marshal or somebodythat has the credibility to go out there and

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actually fucking move the pace of play along.
But I would say in my golfing adult life and asa kid, 90% of the assholes that you run across
that are sitting in those carts driving aroundare exactly that.
They're volunteers.
They're almost dead, and they have no fuckingclue what's going on.
You know, they get a call from Joey in theshop, and they get startled, and they come up,

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and they fucking yell at you for a real quicksecond.
And some people are so fucking brain dead thatthat pisses them off, and that's a spiraling
thing.
Everybody's having a bad time.
So all in all, I like the concept.
I think it's just a very broken systemcurrently.
I love the description, by the way, like, theverbal description of the guy in the golf shop

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hopping on the radio going, hey.
We got a group out of place here.
Johnny, go get them.
Jai, get them over there.
Get on them.
Speed them up.
You know, help them look for their golf balls.
Get over there.
And all of a sudden, that old guy just woke upfrom his slumber.
His radio just goes wild.
Shit himself, like
Oh my god.
I've seen it.
I've literally seen the shit stains down theback.

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Yeah.
Oh, it's like you Oh,
that poor old guy got startled.
Like, he was taking a nice nap.
Actually, this is a true story.
Once caught one of our marshals underneath thetree having a nice little siesta.
Got completely startled.
Yes.
When we actually drove up right alongside him,we're like, hey.

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How's it going, Barry?
Barry.
Just out of nowhere.
My god, you guys startled me.
No shit.
Barry, you were asleep?
Yeah.
All names are fake and protected, by the way.
So Barry's not really
Well, yeah.
So that's yeah.
That's that's my take.
I don't know.
I mean, maybe that's a little hurtful or Idon't know.

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But I that's just what I see.
I mean, Sonny, maybe you can weigh in on that.
No.
I think you're right there.
I think the marshal and the starter are twodifferent guys too.
I think you gotta keep in mind the starter's,the marshal has to be the yeller.
You know?
He's gotta go confront people out on thecourse.
And that's a tougher it takes a a specialperson to be able to do that, starter.

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Literally.
But we know that what they're all there for.
You know?
I mean, we've all
thought about it.
If you
don't get your free golf and you work one day aweek.
So it's a good deal.
It's a good deal for them.
Yeah.
I can't blame those guys at all.
You're right.
I can't blame them.
I'm sure for the assholes, it's like they, oh,I get to be an asshole for free golf.
Like, yeah.
I'm in.
Like, those guys are cool for that.

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It's a good call when you think about it thatway.
Right?
You would hope that your golf IQ or the peoplethat you're playing with would at least be on
par with, like, alright.
This guy's driving over here.
There's only a couple things that he could besaying and, like, maybe ready to move it along
anyways.
But, yeah, some people fight with those oldfolks, and it's just rude.
So there's some battles out there.
There's some war of words, so to speak.

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Get too many beverages in a couple of thesegolfers.
They quite come back at those marshals.
Yep.
And they're mad.
Not
an easy gig.
Not an easy gig at all.
Yeah.
I had a thought, but it's gone now.
So we're gonna move right into our specialguest, Sonny, here, which, Sonny, every time

(09:17):
that we have a special guest on, I gotta findout, man.
Like, what's the origin story with you andgolf?
Yeah.
I mean, Little League Baseball was my wholelife back then, you know, until I turned about
12, and I ended up being a late bloomer.
I'm a full-size man now, but, you know, wellinto high school, I was small, and baseball
wasn't doing it for me.

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So when I was 13, right when I got to the bigfield in baseball, I was like, I can't do this.
So I started playing golf right away after theLittle League.
I was 13, and my parents would drop me off at 7a.m.
and pick me up at 8 p.m.
at the par-3 course, and I just did it all day.
And as soon as I turned 15, I got a job at thegolf course, went to college for professional

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golf management only for two years, came home,got an assistant pro job, and then I just lost
my love for it for a little while.
Took a couple of years off, and then COVID hit.
And right before that, I had started a memepage, GroupChat Golf.
Oh, yes.
And I did that for, I think I went full-timewith that after, like, two years.
I actually owned a dry cleaners and a tailorshop in between there too for three years.

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It was like a family business that I knew verywell.
And so after the golf thing, I sprinkled thatin for a little while.
And thank God I made my way back to golf, like,on my own terms because it's sick now.
But I've been doing the Sonny videos only forabout a year.
So before this year, no one knew my facereally.
Most people just knew, like, GroupChat Golf,and my memes got posted a lot by Zire Golf and

(10:45):
PGA Memes and those accounts.
No one really knew who I was, and then theSonny videos started taking off too.
And most people don't know that I'm botheither.
When they find out, they're always like, oh, Ihad no idea you're GroupChat because I've
talked to everybody in the DMs at GroupChatGolf.
Right?
But nobody really knew who that was.
So, I couldn't be happier.
I love golf.
It's all I got.

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Not all I got.
I have plenty.
But I love it so much, man.
I wake up, I put my golf clothes on, and I'mlike, what kind of video can I make today?
So, okay.
Do you have golf clothes, or do you haveclothes that aren't golf clothes, or is that,
like, a
got some.
I got some.
For sure.
Yeah.
Now I would say I was big into the tees lastyear, like T-shirts, but I'm with Original

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Penguin now.
So I got back into my, you know, I like to gofor, like, the assistant pro look.
That's my...
The dream.
Yeah.
That's where you...
Feel at home?
I don't...
yeah.
No head pro.
So I'm capped at an assistant.
A little baggy, you know, undershirt kind ofthing.
I'll save this for...
A minute.
The assistant pro's...
Okay.
I do.
The assistant pro is the lifeblood of Americangolf.

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Okay?
They are the ones that run the show.
Imagine being a lifetime assistant pro.
That's gotta be one of the toughest lives youcould live.
That's brutal.
That's like working for the post office for20...
That was...
No pension after.
You just...
Exactly.
Done.
No pension whatsoever.
Just 4 billion people paying to...
Play golf and sailing off to have a good timefor five hours while you sit in the shop and

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just listen to the next asshole grind yourballs on a 2:08 tee time.
Now if anybody's wondering, who is this Sonnyguy?
Folks, go on to Officially Sonny on Instagram,and that's with an "o," not a "u" for Sonny.
Go on there and just go into that reel and lookat all the comments.

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It's absolutely priceless, and you'll thank melater.
We do have a question here.
So Trot wants to know what's Sonny's real job?
Funny dude.
Hopefully, it's just that.
Now it is.
Yeah.
Luckily, it's still a grind, but I'll take itfor the freedom any day.
Oh, absolutely.
Rather than being at the course all the timeand grinding, I mean, my God.

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Now you also, as you mentioned, you have GroupChat Golf.
So both of those accounts, by the way, haveover 100,000 followers on Instagram.
So the question that I ask every Instagraminfluencer, I'll say, even Buttsy, I've asked
this to him numerous times.
What makes a successful page on Instagram?

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I'm not an influencer, bro.
Content creator.
I'm a—There
you go.
Creator.
I like that better.
Storyteller.
I think being consistent is the biggest thing.
When I started Group Chat Golf, I posted fiveto 10 memes a day for the first year, and I
gained 100,000 that first year.

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And then Officially Sonny, I made one of thosevideos every single day for the first six
months probably.
And I think I probably did about 100,000 thatfirst six months too.
And then you kinda take your foot off thebrake, but if you go, go, go, like, if you post
every day for one year with something you'repassionate about, I'm guaranteeing you, you're
gonna finish the year with 15,000, 20,000,like, people will find you.

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So just being consistent and being yourselfand, honestly, just following whatever it is
you're passionate about.
If you get to talk about that every day, it'snever gonna feel like working.
It hasn't yet.
So
That's incredible and falls perfectly in linewith everything that I preach.
I mean, I do podcasts.
So, literally, I've got a bunch of podcastclients.

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I obviously do this show, the Pull Hook Golfpodcast.
College for that?
Because you have a voice for me.
He does.
He does.
He does.
Just like the cadence and everything, it'sreally good.
Just over time of doing podcasts and teaching,like, teaching people how to have, like, a
cadence and, like, how to emphasize certainwords in order to make it more impactful things

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to grow
your seed.
I mean, just the way you're doing it is crazy.
It's insanely good, man.
Did you listen to Sports Talk Radio or
anything?
So Dan Patrick is my absolute favorite, andthen I gotta say, I love the energy that Pat
McAfee brings to the table.
So I like to think of this show as kind of themerge between the two of those guys where you
kinda have a serious Dan Patrick, but hiscadence is so good, and his comedy is so dry.

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And then, obviously, with that and
better, honestly.
Well, I'm trying every day.
Listen.
Trying every day, but consistency is theabsolute key to success.
Whether this podcast, we've released an episodeevery single week for three years now.
And we're coming up to our three-yearanniversary in March, and, man, like, it's a

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grind, but as you mentioned, as soon as you doit all the time and you're loving it, it's not
work anymore.
It's just it's an absolute blast to be able todo it.
I will say about the video editing thing, itdefinitely helps, especially, like, YouTube.
But the Instagram, like, I use this app calledSplice, and I don't think I'd be able to use
anything else.

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I don't even know what I'm doing.
Like, I just talk for a couple minutes, andthen I split the video into a minute.
And then, like, I just put it out and put someblack and whites in there.
Like, I don't have any video editing skills,but I think the cinematic aspects that I bring
to it helps.
And that's just black and whites and slow-mo's.
It's not
But it's enough.
Like, it's enough.
It is.

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Yeah.
It's not enough.
Acting's not my thing.
I'm not like, you know, bullshit.
Staying on that.
It's tougher when there's people around.
Like, I do that in a room by myself.
It's easy that way.
It's a little more pressure when you get in aroom with, like, Saint Andre and Beth Boys and
those people who can act.

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But at the end of the day, it's all writinganyway.
You still just gotta write it and make it.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I will say this about your editing.
You found a template that you repeat, and it isperfect.
It is so good because it hits.
And the music you used to
do is just so good.
Really.
Because I even had started a new, like, the,hi.
My name is Sonny.

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I was kind of running out.
Like, I think I could still go on and on withit.
But then I just started doing this.
This is a message for videos, and now I'm justgonna run through that with every kind of
golfer there is, and they're just gonna gocrazy.
So it's just like that.
You keep you do them, you do them out, and thenyou just do that little pivot, and it's all the
same ideas.
You just keep running in circles around, youknow?

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I wanna show you one
on the guy at the golf course that is, like,and I can't remember if this was exactly what
you said on it.
But didn't you do one around the guy who neverplays and then all of a sudden just shows up
and is, like, says he hasn't played in threemonths?
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
So that
was little I was thinking of you when we playedon Sunday, because I kept saying it.

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And then I kept repeating, like, I'll find it.
It's eventually gonna come.
I'm gonna find it.
It's eventually gonna come.
It always does.
He digs it to nine holes.
I had a very bipolar round, as Buttsy will tellyou.
Yes.
I went with a solid 48 on the front and a 34 onthe back.
So very bipolar.
Oh, okay.

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Nice.
So what are your handicaps?
I know Buttsy's like a plus three or something.
Oh, God.
Buttsy's good, man.
Some days, not really.
What's the one in this?
What's your handicap?
Mine?
So I am—I've been trying to get it up.
Yeah.
Basically, mine right now, I've gone over thepast year.
I've gone from a plus 0.5 up to a 4, which, youknow, helps me out in some

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A 4?
money games.
Dude, after that
80.
They're already thinking about playing Novemberof Gastro's you over there.
Oh, yeah.
After 82, out there this weekend with mybipolar round, I think it just put me to a 4.2.
I hit that cap.
They've got a new cap with the handicap system
Mhmm.
to where, like, if you don't play enough, youget capped out.

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So I was capped out for a while.
I'm like, I can't be a 4 handicap and shoot an85s.
Come on.
You can?
Yeah.
I'm proof.
You just gotta sprinkle it.
The fuck is that?
Somebody walk in there?
We got sound—we got door sound effectshappening too.
I'm scared, man.
There was one comment from anti-LIV that I dowant to get to, Sonny, since we're on you right

(19:08):
now.
Is Sonny for or against LIV?
Are you there?
Am I
still there?
We're not there against LIV.
You could be casual with this
one to start.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
They gave me access before anybody else gave meaccess through my meme page, which I thought
was cool.
That is cool.
The first year that they were out there, wewere going to events, and we were asking

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players questions, which we had never been ableto do.
So the fact that they just gave that to us wasnice.
The product is, you know, I wish they could, Iwish somebody could figure out team golf the
way that I want to watch it.
I just, you know, maybe the Ryder Cup's theonly way to do that.
But, yeah, I don't know.

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I've never really watched it on TV or on appsor anything, and I like some of the guys that
are on it.
Love some of those guys.
Yeah.
And I'm friends with some caddies on there,but, you know, I'd rather it all just be one at
this point.
You know?
I mean, TTL is fine too.
Like, do
if you want to do your little side thing, I'mnot gonna, you know, really watch that either.
But maybe one day I will.

(20:12):
You know?
The matches are getting good, Sonny.
I'm telling you.
Which, actually, I'm glad you brought up DGLbecause that's the next little point.
I saw that you got the invite to come on out,and you got to hold the microphone and
everything, and you did your whole deal there.
Got to get you too.
Right?
I did.
I got closest to the pin, actually, between allof everybody there.

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The Good Good guys were there and everything.
It was, like, the "What's your name, Kevin?
I'm a 1.5."
There you go.
Okay.
Yeah.
The venue itself is awesome.
So they were talking about using it for otherthings.
Like, if, you know, say, TaylorMade puts outtheir new driver or something, they're gonna
have the guys go in there and be able to hit itinto the screen, rent it out to corporate

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events and stuff like that.
So I think the place is really cool, but Idon't know.
I think it could be a little more exciting, Iguess.
And when I was there, one thing that I don'tknow if they've changed this by now, but you
couldn't hear the players talking from insidebecause they didn't want each team to hear the
other team.
Yeah.
Over the speakers.

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So when you're actually in there, you're justwatching it, and all you can hear is Roger
Steele.
Okay.
I love Roger to death, but you can't hearthe—well, I think watching it on TV is actually
a better product.
I was gonna say, like, when you're actuallyon-site or you're in the stands or whatnot,
that's gotta be a whole different feel thanwhat we're getting.
Right?
Like, it's
Okay.
Obviously, it was
All different.
That was something I didn't think about.

(21:34):
Yeah.
I mean, it's cool being there watching thegreen spin while they're playing and stuff, but
you can't really see it undulate.
It's kind of you you it's tough to see that.
I don't think—are they undulating it?
Because I don't think they are.
Yeah.
I think they just spin it a certain way.
Yeah.
But, also, once I saw it undulate, I thought tomyself they could easily undulate it, and I
wouldn't be able to tell.

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Because they had to drop, like, 20 balls on itfor me to see that little bit of movement, and
I couldn't even hardly pick it up with mycamera.
So it's like
It would have to go up, like, two feet in onespot, right, for you
to be able to.
Yeah.
But they did.
They let us take a flat putt, and then theymoved it.
And the second putt was, like, a foot outsideleft, and you could hardly even feel it or
anything.
So
That is cool.

(22:16):
Now, full disclaimer, I used to work for thecompany that does all the technology.
That's a virtual green that they have there.
So with the virtual green, if you keep movingit, then you end up with creases within that
turf.
Like, it doesn't set back perfectly, which Ithink is why they probably created one green,

(22:37):
like, complex.
Because they use the same green complex everysingle match.
Mhmm.
Wonder if they could use that for
Right.
Do
they use it for baseball?
Like, could you have a home run derby in there?
Right?
Like, in the I don't know.
Like, into the screen, would it pick that up?
Oh, I
think you could.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm sure
you could.
Yeah.

(22:57):
How big
was that screen?
It's massive.
I think it's like the actual numbers, I'm notsure if they could they were hammering it into
our ears, but it's big.
And but people missed it.
I saw Snappy Gilmore do the one-handed thingand pop one up and hit it over, but there's a
net up top.
So
Okay.
I bought it.
But there were some people that missed to theleft and right as well.

(23:19):
So it's big, but you do hit from far enoughback with your long irons and driver that you
can easily miss it if you like, if I just pushto drive, like, you could miss it.
Oh, really?
Like a screech,
like, it's one of my bad shots.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like, if you accidentally spray it 50 yardsright or 40 yards, like, which happens
sometimes for me anyway.

(23:41):
It happens.
It's best to say.
Yeah.
I had
a little bit of that.
When you're under 50, you move up, like, 20yards or something, and then it's, like, pretty
tough to miss for that.
Okay.
It's the simulator we really want in our house.
Yes.
Definitely.
It
looks epic.
Now were you able to hit off of the grass, orwas it off of the turf?
I hit off the turf, but people were hitting offthe grass too.

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I think they just put some mats down for us,but I didn't wanna ask to, you know?
I I didn't I felt like I've been very low toguys.
Well, you do wonder, like, how thick it is.
Right?
Because it can only be so thick to sit downinto that slot that they have.
Yeah.
And it makes me wonder.
They they they grow it outside, I think, rightout there.

(24:25):
Yeah.
So they have, like, a greens guy right there.
I saw they had the, the host.
Right?
Like, he's riding out on the the replacement,patch, and I just couldn't help but, like,
visualize myself riding out on that patch andjust the chains break or something.
It's just like
it's just
lines.
You know?
So unrelated, but I've been all back in on, youever watch, Gold Rush Alaska?

(24:49):
Oh, the only one that many seasons are.
I'm on season ten right now.
Just just thinking of the chains and droppingthat thing, dude, that show.
If you guys wanna rewatch a show that's justfilled with chaos, go watch the first few
seasons of that because, oh, man, that that'sthat show hits.
Every scene was a meme.
Is it Tony, the Scottish guy?
Yeah.

(25:09):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would just want him to caddie on tour onetime with, like,
a place so good.
Fucking suck.
Fucking suck.
It's not my fucking problem.
Oh, God.
I'm sorry
to go
off of that, but I've been all in on thatrecently.
Some days I had no videos.
Just just that.
Sonny, you fit in perfectly.
This is a show of tangents, by the way.

(25:30):
So we go down some rabbit holes on this.
And, I mean, that's why people, I feel like,enjoy listening to us rather than, you know,
the occasional golf chat that is way tooperfect and structured.
I'm gonna throw this at you.
It's not real life-based at all, but if youreally wanna binge something, I watched this,
like, till my eyes bled.
Maybe you've seen it.

(25:51):
Landman.
Oh, dude.
Landman is phenomenal.
Oh my God.
Big fan.
Billy Bob Thornton.
He's got something going on, man.
Mhmm.
Alright.
Go check it out.
One episode in.
Yeah.
Yep.
I got a, yeah, I got a few more, like, anothermonth or so before the you know, it's golf
almost every day weather.
So yeah.

(26:11):
I gotta binge now.
Binge now or forever hold your peace as theylike to say.
Let's get into the TGL recap, since you know,why not?
Since we were just talking about it.
Yesterday was a doubleheader, which by the way,Sonny, if you haven't been watching lately,
these matches are actually getting good.
Because one of the things I told Buttsy and ouraudience in week one is that well, first of

(26:35):
all, week one sucked.
Like, it was a blowout.
It was boring.
Like, we did a live companion show over atDevRel, and we were, like, grasping at straws
trying to, like, figure out what else to say tokeep it entertaining, and it just wasn't.
Right?
Now we also watched it without sound and triedto narrate the entire thing, which

(26:56):
Which was even worse.
Might have been a life bogey there for us that
But there have been now so one of the things isthat with golf technology, there's nuances to
this.
So it is not the same thing as just goingoutside and hitting a golf ball.
Okay?
Golf Digest actually just came out with anarticle today about it, talking about, oh,
these players are starting to figure it out.

(27:17):
Yeah.
Obviously, they are figuring it out.
They're the best players in the world.
They adapt to these different conditions and soforth.
And now, we're starting to see some really goodfreaking golf.
Like, there's been matches to where, like,yesterday's match where New York Golf Club went
against LAGC, it's the biggest comeback so farin TGL history.
I think there were only four holes left, andLAGC was down 4-0 to New York Golf Club just

(27:44):
getting absolutely skunked.
They came all the way back to tie it, and thenit went to the playoff, which by the way is 40
yards of just, like, this ridiculous pitch shotthat you have to hit over a bunker, and then
it's up on that tier and sits up top.
And so LAGC ends up coming all the way back andwins the damn thing.
Now New York Golf Club is feeling very muchlike the Mets, the Jets, like, all the bad New

(28:10):
York teams.
Okay?
And it's it's not pretty.
That much?
Okay.
It's not pretty.
And then, by the way, we had Boston Common Golfwith Atlanta Drive GC, and Matsuyama had his
first appearance.
K?
Oh, wow.
So he wasn't used to the tech.
Did not hit his first shot over the green,whatever.

(28:33):
And he started saying things.
And sure enough, all the players were like,stop.
You're on a mic.
People are gonna know you speak English.
Oh,
yeah.
You fucking liar.
You're a little loaded.
Genius.
Yeah.
You know, you figure when a guy plays on tourfor that long, he's gotta pick it up.
Oh, he knows good English too.
Like, he can speak very fluently.

(28:55):
Like, it's not choppy at all.
He just doesn't wanna have to deal with themedia, which is hilarious.
I actually thought, say it.
Like, what the fuck?
No.
He was like, no way that went over the curtain.
It's funny.
I thought, I thought Ludwig had an accentbecause I had never heard him talk, like, in an
and I'll I'm the first one to say anytime Ihave a chance to play, I play instead of

(29:19):
watching golf.
I do love watching golf too, but interviews andstuff like that, I don't I don't keep, like, a
close eye on it.
And then I heard him on Full Swing today, andhe just basically sounds like normal?
Like me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
He is.
He's like me.
Was blown.
I thought for sure it was like he was notspeaking much English.
His face just looks that way.
And then now exactly.

(29:39):
He's a college
kid, man.
Like, he's drinking Guinness while he arrivedat TGL after winning the Genesis.
And he's just like they're like, did you sleep?
He's like, yeah.
I slept.
I'm just pounding the Guinness.
And I'm about to go out and just rape somepeople out here on the course.
His golf swing looks like he has an accent.

(30:01):
It does.
Yeah.
He's gonna do it like
that, guys.
Talking about golf swings real quick, sorry toget off on a tangent.
Did you guys see this Jake Knapp deal whereJake Knapp actually hates the look of his golf
swing?
Have you seen this?
Dude, it looks so smooth the way that hewrapped his hands at the top for, like, that
little bit of lag.
It's very Buttsy-esque, but he swings, youknow, he gets to parallel.

(30:24):
He keeps the lag nice and calm though and,like, unload it.
I just
I unloaded like a fucking broken trailer.
Like
Dude, Buttsy tried saying this last week.
It was so good.
He's like, yeah.
My swing's just like Jake Knapp's.
It's like, dude, you can't even get it toparallel.
I didn't even know he said that.
And but besides being a parallel, it is veryJake Knapp also another

(30:45):
Original Penguin guy.
So he's a fellow Original Penguin.
Thank you.
I'm feeling free.
That's why Sonny lost it.
I normally can keep my composure, but I feellike Buttsy sent you a text message and said,
hey.
Slip this one in at some point.
Nah.
Matt's gonna lose his mind when you say thathis swing is like Jake Knapp's.
I've been commenting on that lag for years,man.

(31:06):
The Buttsy lags.
Matt's a little irritated, and I don't I wasn'tgonna bring it up.
I wasn't gonna bring it up because I've beenputting in a little work on the game, you know,
and, there we're so, I mean, Matt doesn't likegetting outdriven by 20 yards, and we saw that.
We saw that.
Maybe on, like, holes one through four.
I was trying to find the face of the golf club.

(31:28):
And on the back nine, I'm like, every hole, but
Oh, not on the back.
Now you're just smoking crack, my friend.
That's no good.
Nobody wants that.
Anyways, it's not about me.
It's not about the length that I've achieved.
We gotta get past it.
Actually, Buttsy is a lot longer now.
He is actually, I will attest.
Like, him and Martin Chuck.

(31:48):
You know who Martin Chuck is?
That Tour Striker guy out here in Arizona.
Yeah.
He's got, like, the, the what's the what's yourtraining aid that he gave you?
The Tour Striker.
That's the little one, right?
It's the, it's the blow-up ball that you usejust to keep separated.
Oh, yeah.
Take your kitchen between your

(32:09):
forearms.
For ages, but the way that he kinda put ittogether, it's pretty easy to use and yeah.
I gotta work
with that.
Little, like, you're going to a conference,like a business conference.
You got one of those lanyards that attaches tothe ball.
I haven't gotten the lanyard yet.
I still use the arm strap.
The lanyard's a very advanced stage.

(32:29):
I'm not
there yet.
Sky.
Alright.
Didn't know.
Didn't know there was a stage to
love this.
He's gotten at this part.
Brian here, the boom driver guy, he's actuallyback.
You can find him on Instagram.
The hammer.
Oh, here we go.
He's trying to make a comment.
Oh, no.
No.
No.
He was he's coming on the he's coming on theshow.
I talked
to him.
I
talked to him, bro.
Yeah.
Buttsy's been talking.

(32:50):
Hell, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I DMed him too, and he gave me his number, andI was like, not gonna call you.
But
I said, what did I DM him back?
I and this might have been some baiting, but Isaid, you know, Jack, I think it's just
ridiculous that even in this day and age andthe swings that you've posted as recent, people
still have a hard time believing that it'sgoing 480

(33:11):
yards a year.
And, I believe it.
I do.
Yeah.
I see it.
I see
the power.
Yeah.
See, that's one of those things that for peoplewho've been playing golf for a long time, that
hits.
That guy is a legend to us, and it's like,people who have only been playing for ten years
don't even know.
They have no idea about the hammer.

(33:32):
Dude, I would be watching the Golf Channel, andall of a sudden, one of those infomercials
would come on.
And it's like, whoa.
That ball just went over a mountain.
He's probably inviting you guys somewhere outof
the snowmobile.
Yeah.
I mean, I should go dig around upstairs.
I'm pretty sure I still have an E Club Type TwoJigger, sitting around somewhere.

(33:54):
A Type Jigger?
No.
No.
E Club Type Two Jigger is one of the mostprevalent shipping clubs ever made.
$29.99 for payments, and it could be yours.
I think Peter Kostis holed out a couple timesback in the day on infamous
That'll that'll yeah.
I'll get it.
I'll put it in the put it in the bag.

(34:14):
Fucking hate, dude.
That's unbelievable.
Golf shit over the years is awesome.
Infomercials were we?
That's a infomercials were a big part of thefirst skits that I made a couple years ago on
group check off.
Just the Yeah.
Because they're just infomercials are so easyto make over the top, and they're just so good.
They're so good.

(34:35):
The people
in them are just electric.
Oh.
I remember working at a
shop.
Guy.
Oh, that guy, he's in jail at
the No.
He's dead.
Oh, no.
He died.
No.
There's two.
Billy Mays was the second one.
Billy is Mays or whatever.
You're thinking of Flex Seal, I think.
No.
Billy Mays.
Yeah.
He does Flex Seal too, I think.
But he is dead, Billy.

(34:55):
Rest in peace, Billy.
Sorry.
Yep.
He bumped his head on an airplane.
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah.
You're right.
That's a big deal.
Brain bleed.
Yeah.
That's that tism, bro.
Just bringing those thoughts back.
Wow.
Coming all the way back around full circle.
Golf infomercials are fantastic, though.
Love them.
Yeah.
Or like somebody that shoots a 30 and hasplayed six times walking into your shop and

(35:19):
picking up a book by Bob Rotella.
Golf is Not a Game of Perfect.
I hope that that is a good read and you reallyimprove from it.
I tell you what, it started aiming at veryprecise items out there, like a leaf 312 yards
away.
Like, yep.
That point of that maple leaf, I'm going rightafter that.

(35:40):
Now how in the world did we go from HidekiMatsuyama into the ShamWow guy?
I have no idea.
This is unbelievable action out of both of youguys.
Right.
I'm not Yeah.
We're not even getting into the rest of thatBoston Common Atlanta Drive GC.
Folks, if you wanna check it out, go totglgolf.com and check out the results page,

(36:01):
which Atlanta Drive 16 to 3.
I'm gonna throw it in there.
Boston got eliminated.
I do know that.
Eliminated from playoff contention with that.
Somehow, New York Golf Club is still in thisthing.
Like, I don't know how they're doing it, butBoston Common Golf has not won a single match.
I think they are just yeah.
They're done.
They're absolutely which is great for Bostonsports.

(36:22):
Boston people love that, which you're a RhodeIsland guy.
Are you a Boston fan?
I really apologize
about that.
No.
That's alright.
I tried.
They don't they I tried to work with them.
They didn't wanna they didn't want me.
So
Wow.
Wow.
I actually reached
out to them.
I LAGC.
I had LAGC, you know, what's his freak?
Neil Hudman on, who's the president of LAGC,came on the show before they took down the SoFi

(36:49):
Arena.
Remember the sabotage, the arson?
Yeah.
That took place very smart on whoever's behalfthat was because that was not ready for action.
And, luckily, this year, they got it all ready.
But, I reached out to Boston Common, which theywere the second club and the Fenway Group.
And they gave me all the contacts andeverything, and I'm reaching out, reaching out,

(37:09):
reaching out.
Nothing.
They wanted nothing to do.
Well, they're getting no cons, so they're doingokay, I guess.
They're doing alright.
Listen, it's just a nice day.
Right?
Who?
They ever catch the ark.
Oh, I don't know.
Didn't they say the didn't they say the topblew off in the storm or something?
I'll let funny.

(37:29):
You never stop you gotta stop listening to themedia, Sonny.
No.
I mean, I mean, I assume that it was them whoblew it off.
There was
I didn't know it was fire.
They definitely knew, okay, this is not readyfor prime time.
And somebody was very smart and was like, hey,if we destroy the top of this arena, which is
like the Carrier Dome in Syracuse, which isjust like turf or not turf, but like, a tarp.

(37:55):
They're like, it's not gonna cost that much.
And on top of that, like, we'll get away with,like, pushing this a year.
And yeah.
Can you imagine if there's just, like, securityfootage that comes out and y'all see her stand
on top of the building with a camel staff justlike
I thought it would be a tiger with someprisoners back then.

(38:18):
Oh, God.
I'm dead right now.
You guys are fucking killing me.
You look dead.
You have no idea.
Ice cream truck.
We, Pittsburgh, we didn't get up that high.
We we went we started in L.A., went up the WestCoast, then back down, and then across the
South, and then up the East Coast.
So we didn't do anything in the middle.

(38:38):
But that was a fun trip.
I will be in the ice cream truck at the Mastersthis year.
Topgolf ball was back.
So it was
down.
Whoa.
Dang.
Weird.
So these are
any better golf tournament than the Masters.
No, dude.
I actually have a Masters tattoo on my armhere.
So I I knew that.
I saw one of your videos where I saw that, andI'm like, this has to come up organically,

(39:02):
which I've completely ruined that now.
But the Masters might be the environment whenyou're out there.
Because you've been out there.
Right?
I haven't.
This will be my first one, and I'm
Oh my God.
Really?
I'm actually yeah.
My my plan is to try to smuggle in a a tattoomachine and do put the year in it while I'm out

(39:30):
there.
I feel like that'll be good content.
That would be dope.
Wow.
That would be great content.
But if you are going to look out for any ofthose private parties, make sure to get into a
NetJets or a Wheels Up party because those arequite dynamic, I must say.
Really?
Okay.
So look out for those.
The DJs
is normally a day club and then also Wheels Up,and they compete, and they try to throw on,

(39:54):
like, the best private jet party possible.
And, there's some invites out there.
You'll if you, hang hang around this year,you'll you'll you'll find your way in.
I got an ice cream truck, so get
in our way.
They're gonna be inviting you.
They're like, sir, come on in.
It's like
pulling right up onto the twelfth ice cream.
Pull on up.

(40:14):
I can't wait to see the iPhone footage frominside this ice cream truck.
Like, that's amazing.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
We were we were in it for three months nonstop.
We drove around the country this summer, LA toBoston.
Yeah.
Goodness.
Where is this content?
We didn't post that much content, believe it ornot.

(40:34):
We were kinda just working, passing out freeice cream and driving six to ten thousand
miles, whatever it was.
But, it was quite a trip, and and I got a lotof Marriott points out of it.
So
Wonderful.
Fair.
That's You weren't sleeping in the ice creamtruck then?
No.
Luckily, we we actually did pitch them on thatoriginally, and they were like, we don't think
that's sanitary.
So we'll get you hotel rooms.

(40:55):
And we're like, alright.
I guess that's fine too.
Oh, man.
Here here's the call.
Like
an official shit
in there.
Grade.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Go ahead, Buttsy.
So sorry.
I didn't have anything to say, Matthew.
I I
was just asking if they got a grade from thegood old food department.

(41:17):
Whatever that's...
Yeah.
No.
He didn't sleep, but it's...
I'm sure it was like flying colors.
Yeah.
No.
I don't think because it was free, I think weonly needed, like, peddlers licenses, and then
it was just frozen packaged.
So we did have our, our food, and we had to getfood safety certified, which was, like, a
four-hour class that we had to do for it.
But dedication.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.

(41:37):
Today is...
today took care of us.
It was a great summer.
I mean, it was a fun way to see the country.
I bet that was a riveting four hours, by theway, of just pure education.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
On my little cell phone.
I don't even use my computer for anything.
I just use my phone for everything.
So I'm just zooming in on every sentence, and Ijust...
it was a nightmare.
Oh, dude.
I'm gonna say, yep.
Same here.
I have a laptop.
Computer for you guys tonight, but and Iactually...

(42:00):
it's funny.
I...
the camera was so bad that I just hooked upmy...
my phone to it to use it as a camera.
So
Perfect.
Continuity, Cameron.
Love that.
Yeah.
It looks great, though.
Like, the really tall.
It's just...
Yeah.
Bright, vivid.
I mean, it is...
Where do
we got the background there?
Who's...
who is that on the post?
That's...
that's an old...
our mayor of Providence.
Okay.
It was, like, during the mob days.

(42:21):
There's a...
okay.
I'm blanking on his name right now.
Yeah.
Very good.
Yeah.
Good guy.
Yeah.
Very good.
Pleasant gentleman.
I've heard great things.
Absolutely great things about him.
The Cognizant, guys.
The absolute Cognizant.
The Cognizant got a little break in my voicethere.
Sound like Christopher Walken.

(42:41):
The now, what's
this one before it was the Cognizant?
This was the Honda Classic for so many years.
Right?
So this takes place at a great golf courseactually with PGA National.
The Bear Trap, the famous Bear Trap that comesup, those final finishing holes.
This is one of those that a lot of people havesaid, this should actually be a party type of

(43:04):
golf tournament similar to, like, WasteManagement Phoenix Open.
Like, this is the type of, like, place thatcould hold that authentically without, you
know, needing to force it.
That was one of the things that I've beensaying lately about LIV.
It's, like, it's pretty inauthentic that, like,everywhere they go, they try to force, like, a
rave on everybody.
It's, like, come on out for a golf and a rave.

(43:25):
Adelaide was pretty authentic, I think.
No.
Adelaide is.
No.
Adelaide, 100 percent.
Because there's there's math
out there.
People at that concert there.
That's crazy.
It absolutely nuts out there.
Yeah.
Which good for them.
Right?
I mean, Australia has been starved for goodprofessional golf for so long, and it's a haven
for good professional golfers.

(43:45):
I mean, you look at the guys that have comethrough Australia.
It's like, alright.
They deserve to have a really cool tournament,and they're party animals.
So, like, that's the one authentic spot to havea LIV Golf type of event.
But let's face it.
Like, Waste Management Phoenix Open, I wouldlove to see, like, three or four of those
throughout the year, where guys are just like,man, it is way too wild out here.

(44:07):
And then we're good.
But this could be it.
I think they should do those, I think theyshould do those from, you know, November to
February.
And then for
the fun events?
Yeah.
And then, you know, if they wanna play, letthem play.
And then, you know, once this could, like, Ifeel like the Honda Classic was really the

(44:28):
first or the Arnold Palmer, like, coming up on,like, this week, next week, that's when, like,
the season really feels like it starts.
I agree with you there, Sonny.
The one thing that I will say is I love youridea.
Like, I feel like Waste Management Phoenix Opencould be the major of the party animals, like,
tournaments.
Like, you could have, like, four—no, it's fourparty tournaments from, like, November through,

(44:53):
and then you finalize your party atmosphere inFebruary in Scottsdale for the ultimate party
animal PGA Tour event.
Hey.
Who needs TGL?
There you go.
Right there.
That's are
they
is there—are those guys, like, are they boozingat all for TGL?
Like, is there—I didn't see them doing that outthere.

(45:15):
I mean, it very well could have been happeningbehind closed doors.
I—I know I would be.
But I also think they would be—they would be alittle more entertaining if they were.
Right.
You know what, Matt?
I mean, sorry.
Acknowledging that.
What Matt Fitzpatrick said because he changedhis name.
He went from Matthew when he had the braces.
Now he's down to Matt because he got them off,and he's got a blondie who's cute.

(45:37):
So he's full Matt now, which I totally get, bythe way.
I've gone through that process myself.
He fits
pretty soon.
Yeah.
So
Can you imagine the first date?
People said I look like Elon.
They were asking him.
They're like, Matt, are you going to bedrinking out here?
And I heard they got some beers in the back andso forth.
He's like, me?

(45:57):
No.
I don't drink.
No.
I don't do it.
No.
He's like, I would be terrible if I drank.
But you had Ludvig who literally flew in fromthe Genesis.
They're interviewing him with a half-drankGuinness in his hand.
Like, there might be some booze going on now,but I will say this, the competitiveness of
these guys is coming out in TGL.

(46:19):
Like, it wasn't in the beginning.
These guys couldn't give a shit.
Xander Schauffele hasn't come back.
Okay?
Like, Xander's been away from the sportentirely because of his first experience with
the TGL.
But now he's like, these guys are being seriouswith this.
Mhmm.
Like, the matches are actually getting good.
Yeah.
At the end of the day too, I mean, if it issomething that sticks, somebody's gotta win the

(46:41):
first one, you know?
And I think that matters to those guys.
They're athletes.
They love to compete.
So as long as they're playing, it is.
Right?
Yeah.
Exactly.
That's why I make the same argument about LIV.
Yeah.
Those guys took the money, but if they have togo out and put their names on the line every
weekend, like, they're gonna try to play well.
That and that was always my big gripe.
Like, you just made a really good point.
It okay.

(47:02):
The product or whatever, but there's no way inhell you are teeing it up and not trying to
win.
I try to
win every time I play with everybody that Iknow.
Why?
No matter what.
Yeah.
So
it's like whether they know it or not, and I'msure those guys are the same way if anybody.
So, Sonny, I went through a whole thing where Ifollowed, covered, and literally watched every

(47:25):
match of LIV golf for three years.
Okay?
For the first three seasons
Good run.
Didn't miss a single match.
And this year, I finally was just like, youknow what?
I'm turning heel on LIV.
I'm no longer going to, like, promote it or,like, be positive about it.
But the one thing that I will say is I alwaysdefended the players, and I still do.
Because I said the same thing, especially whenTiger was like, oh, you know, you need to dig

(47:49):
it in the dirt in order to find your game andwhatnot.
I've been around Major League Baseball and,and, like, the Dodgers and how much they're
paying guys and everything, some of the hardestworking guys are the guys that are being paid
the most amount of money.
So I think that part of it is completebullshit.
So I'm just gonna say that.
That's how they get in that position too.
Right?
I mean, those guys were
That's how they make it.

(48:09):
Everybody else at the end of the day.
If I have a billion dollars in the bank, youstill ain't waxing me on the ping-pong table in
the backyard.
Like
Dude, do you have a ping-pong table?
I do.
You wanna play?
You do not want this action.
Dude, I so badly want to kick ass.
Mesmerized at my lateral speed.

(48:30):
I don't think you know who you're getting into,but you do have this is the one caveat
with Buttsy.
Is.
He's got good hands.
He's got good hands.
The hand-eye coordination is impressive.
So I think we would actually have a pretty goodmatch.
I'll get LASIK right before it too.
Oh, that's cheating.
You wear contacts?
No.
I just squint mainly.
Mad outfit.

(48:51):
That's what I do too.
No.
Just like one
of those be a those be a man videos.
That's a good one for them.
That would be a really good one for
that.
Glasses being true.
Oh, glasses.
Squint.
Sonny, have you heard the latest about thiswhole Buttsy thing about, he's playing
paintball now?
Oh, I've already talked to him about it.

(49:11):
Yeah.
Oh my god.
As soon as DMC did, he said, I wanna I wannacome You're in.
Like a golf paintball.
Of course.
Alright.
I will say this.
If Sonny's in, I'm gonna have to be in.
I feel like I'm gonna pull both hamstrings.
I did it in slow-pitch softball a couple yearsago.
Muscle in my body, but it's where
it takes a
couple shots off.
I didn't show anything about it.
But after day one, I was almost, like, in thehospital.

(49:33):
I can imagine.
Because then you should have recorded thatcontent.
Rolling butt cheeks, everything.
Like, my lady's pulling me off the shitter inthe morning.
I couldn't even stand up.
It was really bad.
But now we're good.
We've been training for it.
I walk.
Alright?
I walk a lot now.
But, like, Dan Bilzerian said it, and I don'tknow how you feel about him.

(49:53):
Super douche probably.
But he has a paintball field in his yard, andhe made a really good comment.
He said, I feel for the amount of adrenalinethat's produced, it's probably the safest thing
that you could do.
You're not jumping out of a plane.
You're not getting actually shot at.
You're not gonna you're not backflipping amotorcycle.
That, though.
You get that feeling.

(50:14):
Yeah.
Oh, and it's just addictive, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I gotta get back out there.
It's been a long time.
It's an indie movie.
I mean, that's
one idea.
Custom.
Those are those are what they use
for rent.
Yeah.
I figured that.
That was the one back
in the day.
So, like, I went to a rental field, played onegame with the rental game, came out.

(50:35):
Everybody's like, are you gonna play anothergame?
I said, nope.
I already know there's better shit.
I'm not I'm, like, not interested anymore.
I'm gonna go buy all the good shit, then I'llbe back.
And,
yeah.
Look at him now.
Did you start a PayPal account yet?
Or
No.
I'm I'm gonna integrate.
I'm gonna integrate here.
I think because I know you got the Bass Houseand
You got, like, 12 accounts or something.

(50:56):
He's got
the He's
got Buttsy's car house of cards.
Buttsy's toenails, you know, like, he's muchtelling That's
his OnlyFans page.
Dude, I got such a good idea that I for, like,a fee thing on TikTok.
You ever see the videos that people do the the,hydraulic press
Oh, yeah.

(51:17):
Where they can crush things?
Oh.
Just imagine if you did that with your foot,but you've you filled a shoe with something,
and then you just put your you just you madethe sound of the hydraulic press, like, happen,
but you also just and then you just have yourfoot smooshing into a shoe full of, like,
spaghetti or, like, all different things.
And then you get the brands to pay for what youwanna put in the shoe, but you never show your

(51:40):
face.
And then you get people from Footfinder to belike, yo, put your foot into this and they pay.
Yeah.
They pay a
base reveal would be very expensive.
Lot of foot fetishes out there.
Us.
But I I also so on the the foot thing, I wasgonna actually, tailor it down to toes, and
it's big toes only.
And it's like a talk show, like, Between TwoFerns with Galifianakis, but it's like, I dress

(52:03):
my toe up as, like, Jennifer Topaz, and thenyou dress your big toe up as whatever, like
like Toe Montana.
Right.
Somebody's gonna do this.
Right.
And we and we talk to each other for, like,while our feet are down there, and then, like,
you get the long range, but zoomed in on thetoe and they're having a combo.
I'm doing some toe pair.
You know, I used to throw the long ball.

(52:24):
Right?
Like,
you know?
I saw one time I was walking on the beach andsomebody had, like, one of those little surfers
that just surfs on its own in the water, like akid's toy.
Yeah.
And I said to myself, imagine if that guy wasjust a social media, like, if he was an
influencer, just him.
And he, like, you just voiced over all of hiscool moves and whatever and, like, it could be

(52:44):
hilarious.
Like, if you had a golf character that was justa, like, somebody made a puppet for you, and
you can make him an Instagram account, he wouldblow up so fast.
That is a great idea.
Folks, if you're listening, you need to createthat account immediately.
Yeah.
Because that's actually a really good idea.
It doesn't even have to be crazy.
You could just literally have you could evensee your hand holding

(53:05):
the finger.
That's the funniest part about it.
I mean, have you seen Team America?
The fuck.
Yeah.
See those strings in some of the funniestscenes in the world.
The sex scene in that movie
is like oh,
my God.
Every time they're wired, it's just like
that is classic.
Larry.

(53:25):
It's so good.
So, so the betting odds over at the CognizantClassic, folks.
We've got Shane Lowry as the favorite of plus2,000.
We've got Russell Henley and Sungjae.
Good old Sungjae plays well here, by the way.
So Sungjae is kind of a homer type of pick, buthe never wins.
So plus 2,200 for him.

(53:46):
Daniel Berger is plus 2,500.
Taylor Pendrith and Sepp Straka, plus 2,800.
Min Woo Lee, people say he likes to cook, plus3,300.
Kurt Kitayama, plus 3,500.
Denny McCarthy, Davis Thompson, Ben Griffin,Keith Mitchell, plus 4,000.
Then you got Jordan Spieth, Cameron Young, J.J.

(54:06):
Spaun, Byeong Hun An, Ben An at plus 4,500.
You've got Alex Smalley, Michael Kim, MaxGraiserman, a.k.a.
the Timur Rory as Buttsy likes to refer to himas, Austin Eckroat and Andrew Novak at plus
5,000.
Then we got Patrick Rodgers, Nicolai Hojgaard,Rickie Fowler, Billy Horschel, Luke List, Gary

(54:29):
Woodland, Harry Hall, and Taylor Moore at plus5,500.
Lucas Glover, who Buttsy has been keeping avery close eye on, Jhonattan Vegas at plus
6,000.
Buttsy, I'm gonna start with you.
Who is your pick for the Cognizant Classic?
I don't know.
He hasn't been the same since he stoppedwearing Squares shoes, but I gotta go with rep

(54:53):
the set, dude.
I feel he's just he's sneaky like that, andhe's about due if, yeah, I think he's, like,
right on that roller coaster, and he's aboutto, like, yeah.
I still win every now and then, and, like, it'sabout my time.
Okay.
Good old Sepp Straka for good old Buttsy.
What about you?
They're good old Sonny.
Well, it's funny.

(55:14):
Before I saw the before I saw the odds, I wasgonna go for Shane Lowry because I watched a
few episodes of Full Swing today, and I just Ireally like him as a guy.
But why is he favored?
Is that is the field bad, or is he playingreally well?
He hasn't I'm reading right here.
He hasn't got a win in the United States in tenyears, in over a decade.
Not good for Shane Lowry.
Maybe he's due.

(55:34):
Maybe the oddsmakers are like yeah.
So you're going with Shane Lowry.
Yeah.
For the Full Swing effect, I think.
I love that for you.
I absolutely love that for you.
Now I am gonna go with the guy who never winsbut is always up towards the top.
And I am really starting to like his caddie onTwitter, good old Willy Wilcox.

(55:57):
I'm going with Sungjae Im.
The king is what he refers to him as.
I'm going with Sungjae.
I'm a Willy Wilcox guy now too.
Wave god?
Yeah.
What's up?
Is he wave god Wilcox on the 'gram at him withthe cool little Tom Lehman drop in, man?
I don't follow him.
Oh, yes.
He's got a big drop inside.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
He lays
it way,

(56:17):
way off.
One thing that I will say, and I'd like yourfeedback on this, Sonny.
We are getting a dub over of us as a Koreanshow.
So I'm just wondering, how do you think that'llplay on social media?
I mean, anybody with a business sense wouldknow it's smart because the game is so huge

(56:41):
over there.
Are we, are we gonna try to hit North too orjust dude, just South?
We actually, for a little while on Twitter, hadKim Jong Un following us for a while.
So, yeah, I think we've got some more demos forsure.
It looks him.
Yeah.
We're pretty sure.
We did some research.
We can't confirm because, you know, accounts onTwitter are tough to track down.

(57:04):
The IP address just inside the demilitarizedzone.
So it was definitely Korea.
So I mean, if it's good enough for MrBeast togo making it in other languages, I don't see
why you guys shouldn't do the same.
So yeah.
We're gonna get our sample
hopefully this week.
I can't wait to hear what they make
me sound like over the
last week.
What the hell?

(57:26):
Just just a whole I mean, it's gonna sound likegibberish to us, but with the American captions
underneath, I think it'll be absolutelypriceless.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's gonna be good.
You're gonna have to get into that, like, sideof Instagram too.
What are we doing here?
Why is it so focused, Tommy?
I think we lost our our host.

(57:47):
Oh, no, man.
Podcast speed.
Oh, there he is.
Holy shit.
Apologies.
Dude, that was wild.
I've never had that happen.
I got kicked out of our own studio.
I felt very afraid when I
You know what it was?
We just got attacked by North Korea.
Dude, that's probably true.

(58:07):
We're like we're like the South Park guys withthat movie.
Remember when they were going to do?
And all of a sudden, they got threatened.
It could've been the I mean, it could've beenthe U.S.
too, you know.
America.
Talking North Korea, they're probably mad youguys are putting your podcasts out and Oh my
god.
Yeah.
Like, the AI the AI algorithm grabbed it.
Shut me right down.
Mhmm.

(58:27):
Dude, I got pooped.
It's like, I'm I'm hanging out with you guys,and then all of a sudden, I'm like, out.
We were doing a pod one night, and I have a TVon behind me.
And it had was it tour It was live coverage.
Yeah.
PGA Tour for, like, two seconds.
Shut it down.
PGA Tour was quick with it.
Oh, really?

(58:47):
They yeah.
Their Instagram got that.
Know that we had some tour officials that willwatch the show, and they were not watching it
because they like it.
Let's put it that way.
For a while, I've had caddies on and so forth,and sure enough, they shot us down.
They can share.
Buttsy, would you say that that was within thefirst 11 seconds?
Yeah.
I mean, look.

(59:08):
We've had episodes where we go out of our wayto throw political correctness to the wind and
take big shits on people,
and they
don't like that.
They're watching.
Nobody does.
Nobody does, except for our audience.
Our audience ego
thinking that they're watching, you know, butI'd like to think that.
That makes me feel pretty big.

(59:28):
Wow.
We got a I haven't seen this account before.
So choice Postel golf burger with a wild windout of nowhere.
Love that.
Why are you pronouncing your last name with anaccent, though, is what I wanna know.
Postel?
Is that not how you pronounce it?
I think we're right back in the Ludwig thingright now.
You try
it's Postel.

(59:49):
Couldn't be Postel.
There's gonna be postal.
I don't wanna offend the guy.
Show us pasta.
Yeah.
It just sounds
offensive to say A
couple millers right now.
I just got new tires today.
By the
way, I just remembered this.
I think from over the weekend, I actually havea couple beers in my golf bag.

(01:00:11):
I grabbed it right before the show came on, outof straight out of the car, so we shall see.
Mhmm.
I
might go in there in a second because I amrunning low on whiskey.
You're not picked up anything yet, though.
That's good.
Johnny Walker.
Mhmm.
Okay.
Of course.
Where are
we at?
Make sure you're 21 years or older, folks.
Drink responsibly, Johnny Walker.

(01:00:33):
Fuck.
We are going back to the notes here.
Babe, I'm sorry.
I drank your whole bottle of espresso martinimix and now I'm
wired.
Guys, this is actually the part of the showthat we get to have some fun because not that
you guys haven't had some fun, but this iswhere we broke the big news today around Bryson

(01:00:57):
DeChambeau.
And Bryson was asked in their extensionconversations with PIF.
He asked for $280 million for an extension,which probably seems fair, right, since Jon
Rahm got, what, almost a half a bill?
Like, $500 million.

(01:01:17):
Right?
It was reported at $600 million, but I thinkpart of that was, like, projected team equity
and so forth.
However, Bryson was asked or asked for the $280million extension, and they rejected it.
Now this has opened up plenty of conversationaround Bryson and him coming back to the PGA

(01:01:38):
Tour next season.
There is a little bit of a debate because, one,I don't know if you've seen it, Buttsy, or
Sonny, you've seen it, but I have not seen thecontracts with LIV Golf with these players.
So I don't know.
I have heard rumors that his contract isthrough 2026, but he was one of the original

(01:02:00):
signings.
And at the time, I remember everybody wassaying, and we were reporting it as well, that
it was a three-year deal.
And so that would put them through this year.
And this is, by, by the way, top officialswithin the tour.
So this is not some random source.
Post that.
I was also talking with the media outlet thattypically doesn't agree with what I have to say

(01:02:25):
on X under Pull Hook Golf.
However, they were saying something verysimilar around the fact that, you know, how
2022 was very much so the year where everybodyyou were hearing rumors about everybody going
to LIV.
All the top talent because LIV was trying topoach everybody.
They were in line with the fact that this yearis probably the year we're gonna start hearing

(01:02:50):
about everybody who is moving back over to thePGA Tour because that's where we're at.
And I don't know.
Did you guys catch everything that happenedlast week?
You got the acid reflux shit going.
That's how I know.
You had to say it.
You had to absolutely say it and then screw meover.
Now I'm thinking about it.

(01:03:10):
And now I'm like, oh, I need to burp.
And it's literally just scotch that's comingback up, which tastes delicious, by the way.
My man.
Especially when it's Johnnie Walker Blue.
But that being said, fuck.
Damn.
Yeah.
Did you
What was the heat that you're
seeing?
You can
see it in the cheeks, dude.
Oh, yeah.
It starts getting rosy.

(01:03:32):
But he was claiming he had melanoma one show.
I just ate some more Play-Doh.
Give me a second.
So
Okay.

(01:03:54):
Go, baby.
Wash that down.
Wash that acid reflux down.
That's my baby.
It's just warm, by the way.
Oh, you need a shrinking fountain in there.
The mountains are not blue on this one, butwe're to the point of the show where I need to
have something.
Oh, shit.
That's delicious.
By the way, folks, I just pulled a warm beerfrom the weekend out of my golf bag that is a

(01:04:15):
Coors Light.
Where were we?
LIV contracts.
We were
in the grips of the LIV contracts, I believe.
And, them being three years and yeah.
I'm not real fond.
Everybody's starting to come back to the PGATour now because it's not going the other way.
Right?
When's the last time I heard somebody going toLIV?
Correct.
I think PIF from everything that I'm hearing isbasically done paying these guys these

(01:04:39):
contracts.
At the end of last week, we had the meeting.
That was supposed to be the meeting that pushedeverything forward.
We were going to unify the game of golf.
Tiger was there.
We had good old President Trump running theshow.
We had Jay Monahan.
We had Adam Scott.
All these guys were there, and, unfortunately,that meeting did not go well.

(01:05:03):
And now we basically are in a position to whereit's no longer gonna happen.
However, now we're in a situation to where,yeah, that's not looking likely whatsoever.
So no wonder Bryson went and tried to get anextension done with PIF at this point.

(01:05:24):
A little absolutely.
Little milking action.
That's a camel that he's milking.
Just just do not oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's alright.
Sonny, what do you think?
Yeah.
I mean,

(01:05:47):
I don't
know.
Not to put
you on the spot, but
No.
No.
I think, yeah.
I'm sure he probably wants to, you know, keepit keep it running, but I think it it served
its purpose.
And so are you saying the talks with them thispast week didn't go well as in they're not
gonna have a piece of the PGA Tour in thefuture or that it's off the table now?
Like, everything is kind of off the table atthe moment.

(01:06:08):
Like, he has to keep LIV then until they changetheir mind.
He didn't want to get rid of it at all.
Like, he got to the point where, like, it'sready to move forward.
Right?
And all of a sudden, he's like, I don't know.
Like, the one thing that's not going to change,he's made too many promises, said too many
things about how he wants team golf moving inthe future.

(01:06:29):
PGA Tour obviously looks at that as the TGL,and Yasir looks at that as LIV, and so it's not
looking likely.
Now, Antiliv here, who, by the way, is somebodyin mergers and acquisitions because he knows
way too much about mergers and acquisitionsand, like, law.
And that's one of the reasons why I'm just likeyeah.

(01:06:51):
At least he's super intelligent when it comesto, like, the stuff that he says, has talked
about, like, antitrust and how this will nevergo through unless, like, it gets pushed through
by the president.
And with the president kinda taking the stancethat, no, LIV, you're going away if this is all
going through.
We're gonna have a unified, like, PGA Tour.

(01:07:12):
Everybody's coming back, and that's the wayit's going to be, and that's the only way.
Guess what?
It's not going to sit well with good old Yasir,and so it did not.
Yeah.
It's like Zelenskyy.
You know?
Pretty much the exact same thing.
Peter Malnati Malnati.
Peter.
How in the hell do you say his last name?

(01:07:33):
Malnati.
Peter Malnati actually came out and said, in aI think it was with golf.com, if I'm not
mistaken.
I saw it today.
But didn't write it down, but he said somethingabout the fact that, look, Trump is just trying
to get a win in, like, with this and wants totake credit for bringing golf back together,

(01:07:56):
which is an interesting thing to come fromPeter.
Peter's normally pretty well spoken and pretty,like, he's known as, like, the nicest guy in
the PGA Tour, by the way.
Same as Patrick Reed, though.
Yeah.
I mean, that doesn't surprise me that he wouldwant to be a part of that if he could.
Right?
Yeah.
I think I think I knew everybody wants to bethat hero right now.

(01:08:18):
I think I think we're at the point where wejust want to see everybody together now.
Yeah.
It's over the whole
Yeah.
I think, I mean, if Yasser hangs on, it justbecomes like the XFL.
Like, they're gonna get, like,
the the team
is hiring, like, us, you know, like, creatorswho can play, then it'd be cool.
That might be a product that actually, like,works.

(01:08:40):
I know.
So I
called it out today.
I kinda see them as being the mini tour leagueof team golf.
Like, a bunch of young guys who are trying tomake their way, and they're just, like,
scrapping it up in team golf.
But I would love to see it just go completelymatch play if they go that route.
Like, screw the individual golf tournament.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
Or even just, like, Ryder Cup style every week,you know, just something.

(01:09:03):
Because the way that they do it is they did notfigure it out.
No.
No.
No.
They had an individual golf tournament everysingle week with teams.
Like, that's all it was.
Like, nobody was paying attention to the teamsreally other than potentially some cult
followers.
But, like
fact, I would go check the app when I tried to,you know, give it the college try, and the

(01:09:23):
first thing I went to was, yeah, whatever'sgoing on there.
Who's winning?
Like, who's leading?
Like
That was it.
Shot the lowest score.
Yeah.
You know?
So I don't know.
The guy that shot 75 for three days making $4million at the end of it because his teammates
carried him was like, I don't know.
Mhmm.

(01:09:43):
Their big save this year, like, PR-wise, was wesigned a deal with Fox Sports.
Right?
And all of a sudden, the problem with FoxSports, you're gonna see those viewership
numbers, and guess what?
They were not pretty.
Not pretty at all through any event so far.
How much do you think they paid Fox Sports totitle it that way?

(01:10:05):
Right?
Like, that's kind of probably what happened.
Like, hey.
We'll give you $600 million, and we get to saythat, you know, we're broadcast on your
network, and it gives us some clout.
I don't know.
There's been two international sources aroundthis that have said that Fox Sports paid a
nominal licensing fee.

(01:10:28):
And now They threw in the word nominal.
36.
If you were if you were to, yeah, if you wereto explain that to a five year old, the word
nominal, how would you explain that?
Okay.
I don't think I could.

(01:10:49):
Oh, by
the way, I almost forgot to bring it up too.
They just sent so this source actually textedme before the show tonight.
And guess who else, which this is I don't thinkthis is a surprise.
I don't even think this would be as big of newsas Bryson potentially coming back.
Are you guys surprised at all when you hearthat Brooks Koepka is coming back to the PGA

(01:11:14):
Tour?
I'm fairly surprised.
That's crazy.
And ultimate troll.
No.
I really thought maybe, you know, if LIV didn'twork out, he'd just start his own tour, to be
honest.
So the past couple weeks, Sonny, with Buttsy,we have gotten that the Hero World Challenge

(01:11:36):
should be a major championship.
Oh, yeah.
We didn't even touch on that tonight.
And what was the other one?
Well, let's back up a second to the Hero.
Yeah.
Let's go back to the Hero.
How many times have I said this now?
And I don't even know why you laughed.
This is, like, week five now.
What's crazy is that you continue to disagreewith me.
It's
No.
No.
No.
I fully accept where you're going with the HeroWorld Challenge because if it was in America, I

(01:12:01):
think it could be a
Hardest test of golf those guys have ever seenin their lives, and it's probably layout-wise.
I don't know who designed it, but that guy is
wondering why we don't have credibility.
I do wonder sometimes.
What do you mean by that?
Are you
because LIV Golf Adelaide should be the sixthmajor.

(01:12:24):
No.
But the Hero is
Tiger sets it up.
Right?
Yeah.
And look there.
There you go.
Brand awareness right there.
It's the number one golf course that those guysplay, like, in the world.
And from a tournament perspective and a depthof the field, we all know that it stands in a
league all of its own, and people play theirwhole lives to get the opportunity to get the

(01:12:47):
invite to go out there.
It's the number one test that they experiencein their professional careers.
I do love that.
Yeah.
I mean, just the way he puts it, right, Sonny,is just, like, incredible to where if you've
never been more in on the Hero World Challenge.
Gotta, gotta really pay attention to this.
Tune in next year.
This year or next year, they're

(01:13:08):
This year.
This year.
I've been trying to get tickets.
It's harder to get tickets there than it is toget, like, Masters tickets.
And I put in, you know, I put in my spot rightafter this year ended, got denied because
there's, like, 2 or 3 million people on thewaiting list.
They don't have the capacity to have that manypeople out there.
So I continue to wait patiently.

(01:13:30):
I really hope that I get the opportunity to goout there and watch that tournament.
It's the best there is.
I hope that if you sent a letter and, you know,talked about your stance on it, I think they'd
let you in for sure.
That's a good idea.
That's a good idea.
And I need to reach out, maybe end up with anemail address.
We'll find you somebody.
Thanks, dude.
Yeah.
Of course.

(01:13:50):
With you involved now, like, that Yeah.
I'm It's a no.
It's it's done.
I'd be like, I'm the Make
A Wish kid, like, literally overnight.
Sonny, would you sign off on that?
Like, if he sent you the letter and was like,hey.
Can I get a signature from you to, like, backme?
Yeah.
I
love that.
Disruption.
Yeah.
Building community.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:14:21):
I'm I'm alive.
Right?
Like, I'm fine, and I get emotional talkingabout it.
It's just
That is actually a fact.
Mining on my mind.
It is it is a fact.
He's not rolling.
He's not he's not making it into the process.
Mining process.
Oh, dude.
I could see, like, a 20 handicap, like, tryingto explain that to his buddy.

(01:14:42):
I'll just know.
The music says, you know, the sands from thesame model.
Yes.
Yes.
That's all they got.
Like, there's a talking point.
Produce is Augusta.
Just Augusta just crushing quartz all day forAugusta and TGL.
Gotta love it.
Gotta absolutely love it.
Alright.

(01:15:03):
Gents.
Just ready for the sign-off?
By the way, Sonny, we wanna see some dancemoves out of you.
Okay?
We've got this song that plays at the end ofour episodes that
will take you.
It'll just take you.
I love a good song.
Just let it let it flow.
It's just it's a banger.
It's an absolute banger.
Are you ready for this?
Take a deep breath.

(01:15:23):
Let's let's get it.

(01:15:58):
Good laugh.