The Match: Bryson/Brooks vs. Rory/Scottie

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Welcome back, everybody, to Pull Hook Golf, thepodcast.
I'm your host, Matt Cook.
Tonight, we've got Buttsy.
Tonight, we've got the PGA Tour insider BrentGrant.
And, man, do we have an absolute episode forall of you tonight?
This is going to be a wild one.
I am locked in.
I got my cockfighting shirt on from DevereuxGolf.

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Got the Devereux Golf hat.
And I've got, you know, some what they wouldcall sheriff's shades, and Buttsy is looking
good with his shades as well.
Those are phenomenal, there Buttsy.
And then we got Mr.
Brent Grant just absolutely toking up with agood old cigar tonight outside on his porch,
balcony, whatever the hell it is.

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But, welcome in, gentlemen, and we've got a gemof a show tonight.
We've got the tee-off report with.
That's how we start out now.
We've also got the match recap, which isongoing right now.
We actually have it on, and there's been somehard lips.
There's been some hard looks.
Yeah.
There's a lot of shit going on out there on thematch.

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We're gonna recap that whole thing.
We got the Q-School recap that happened lastweek and the upcoming PNC Championship as well
as some LIV Golf news to discuss.
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Buttsy's rocking the T-shirt.
He's got the hat there as well.
And, yes, folks, this is a good old Westernfeel to what I'm wearing tonight.
We got the cocks.
They are going at it.
They are fighting tonight, and that's in honorof the match.
And then we've got the Devant trucker hat, andwe've got some shades that we're not gonna talk

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about because they're
Gucci?
Yeah.
Did you slap yourself in the face before yougot on here tonight, bro?
You are like
They're Ferragamo.
Fired up.
I am fired up.
I like
it.
What?
What'd you say?
I'm sorry.
They're Ferragamo's.
Okay.
Ferragamo.
That's how you know you're from the East Coast.

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Favorite omelets?
Favorite omelets?
Is that what it is?
I'm sorry.
Absolutely.
I've known
Have you named, have you named the the thecocks on your chest there?
This is Tony, and this is Jeremiah.
So they're gonna begin after it.
Now as we get into this episode, we always liketo start off with our main man, the Buttsy with

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our tee-off report.
And we've been on a train lately of givinggreat advice.
People love the advice last week with the golftrip hangover cure that Buttsy provided.
And this week, Buttsy, we've got an even betterone for all the people because, you know, over
the past couple years, especially since socialmedia has become so big, everybody's got their

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phones, everybody's recording stuff, and yousee these scrambles out there that are
absolutely bonkers with these scores.
So tonight, I want you to give the audience,Buttsy, your best advice for entering into a
scramble and trying to win it.
Oh, god.
Where do I begin?

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The best thing you can do entering a scrambleto win it is to enter a scramble and don't try
to fucking win it.
I think that's probably the best advice becauseif you do win it, you cheated.
Everybody knows that.
Nobody has ever won a scramble withoutcheating.
It doesn't happen.
It doesn't exist.
Especially if there's mulligans in play.

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I've played in tons of scrambles, and one ofthe dudes starts the day with four mulligans,
and now he's on to his 13th mulligan by the15th hole.
Nobody lets the eagle putt not drop.
Somebody's always going to make sure it goesin.
It's like, I still got, you know, two or threeleft.
And then you come in, and, you know, these aregrown men cheating their ass off to win a $100

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golf bag and maybe a dozen Pro V1s.
And they come in the restaurant, and they getbooed off the premises every time.
So my advice would be if you're in it to win ascramble, it's the wrong angle.
Don't go out there to win.
Have a good time.
Know that you didn't cheat and you placed inthe top five.
That would be my advice.
If you're trying to win a scramble, you're adouchebag.

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You ain't gonna win unless you cheat.
It's like steroids in bodybuilding.
Can't be a bodybuilder without taking steroids.
You can't win a scramble without cheating.
It's fucking science.
So that's my advice, you know, plain andsimple.
There you have it, folks.
Tee off report with.
I mean, that's clean.
That is just clean.

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Don't go into a scramble, folks, and try to winit.
That is the bottom line.
Okay.
Or else, what'd you call them?
Douchebags.
I mean, there's a lot of other words.
Right?
Like and for a lot of these guys, they playedhigh school football, and, you know, they'll
tell you they would have been in the league ifthey didn't blow their knee out, even though
they're 5 foot 4, 161 pounds.

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But those are the guys that are out therelooking for glory and trying to find it in the
corporate scramble.
And you are exuding that on the podium when youdo win and everybody knows that you cheated
your ass off.
There's nothing worse than four 65-year-old menthat can't hardly walk straight that come in

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with a 39 on 18 holes, and they won by six.
So
I saw one the other day.
It was 46.
They shot 46.
Unbelievable.
I mean, I wanna, I just wanna shake these guys'hands and be like, man, you shot a 46 out
there.
That's incredible.
But you know, we've all been a part of thatscramble group to where like one guy walks up

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and all of a sudden, like hits his putt justcasually.
And it's like, oh, if that drops, we'recounting it.
Boom.
Drops.
Well, count it.
And you may get paired up with guys you don'tknow that are hell-bent on winning the
scramble, and it puts you in a really bad spot.
Because maybe you don't wanna cheat, but youcannot express that to the group.

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I mean, you're not gonna call out Herb, who's57, and this is his absolute glory in life as
this scramble he plays in once a year.
You're not gonna walk up to him and say, hey,man.
I've been counting, and you don't have any moremulligans left.
We gotta par there.
We gotta get out of there.
It's time to go.
We are not cheaters.

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So you
gotta go with it.
You're a cheater by proxy.
You know?
You're a proxy cheater.
So, yeah.
Don't be
The audience loved it.
Winning a scramble is not a point of pride, andit should never be something that people try to
do.
Great stuff, Buttsy.
Great stuff.
Per usual out of you, let's see if the audienceon social media loves that one this coming

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week.
Now let's get into the match, and it'scurrently still going on right now.
I've had the sound off, so I have no idea whatthe hell is going on.
But I can tell you that I watched all the waythrough to, I believe, 13 holes of this damn
thing where LIV Golf won one hole the entiretime.
Oh.

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And it has not looked good for Bryson andBrooks.
Goes back to what we always talk about withthis whole thing that it's like, man, these
off-seasons, they're tough.
They're not easy to all of a sudden jump rightback in to being able to play your absolute
best golf under pressure.
There's a reason why you gotta keep your gamein shape and the more tournaments you're

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playing in.
I mean, Brent, you dealt with that at Q School,the second stage where you hadn't played
competitive golf in months, and all of a suddenit's like, shit.
I need to turn it on, and that switch isn'tnecessarily there.
So, I mean, I ask you, Brent, going throughthat, I mean, is that what we're seeing from
Brooks and Bryson right now?
It sure looks that way to me.
Oh, man.
Among other things.
But yeah.

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I mean, you're talking about the number one andnumber two best players in the world,
essentially.
Certainly, as far as their play this year, theywere, by far the most successful players on the
globe.
But other than that, yeah, I mean, Brooks lookslike he's not too thrilled to be there.

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Bryson, as always, is probably taking it alittle too seriously.
And to be honest, Bryson spent the last, Idon't know, however many months doing YouTube
golf.
So God knows none of that shit's real.
So, you know, now that it's all under thelights, maybe
Friends coming out firing tonight.
Firing.

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What about you?
What's your take on this whole thing?
I don't know.
I mean, I wonder if there's, if there'sanything behind it for him.
Even the guys, you know, even Scheffler andRory, is there anything behind this?
Did they have
did they have no dollars of cryptocurrency
I know that, but was there any level ofcompetitive want to beat LIV guys?

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Did that even or was this all just strictlybusiness?
Like, did they go out there really?
I mean, look.
We could tee it up for whatever.
I still want to beat you when we go play.
Right?
So I don't know.
Maybe I answered my own question, but I justwonder if there was any animosity on a
competitive scale there where they actuallywanted to win this and there was something in
it from a pride perspective.

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Even though it's a silly-ass match, if youwill, under the lights in Vegas, I don't know.
That's a good question.
I mean, think about this.
Right?
So, like, all four of them are world-classcompetitors.
Right.
But if you but if you look at it in a certainway, it's not you can't take away Bryson's
year.
I mean, he won the US Open and did did a greatjob.

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Although, you know, clearly, there were somemishaps from other players down the road down
the down the stretch there.
But, as far as Scottie and Rory are concerned,they're at the top of their games.
And, I don't think Brooks and and and, Brysonhave had the same level of competition, week in
week out that these guys have.
And the bottom line is it wasn't too long ago,Scottie had won the Tour Championship and Rory

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won his 18th 100th Dubai Championship.
So yeah.
You know, I mean, I can guarantee you, even ifit's about pride for these guys, the bottom
line is two of those guys can put it downwhenever,
wherever.
And, you know,
the other two can't.
I mean, let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.

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Like, I haven't unfortunately, I haven't gottento see it because I'm not willing to pay $200 a
month for cable, so call me cheap.
But, yeah.
When you're watching it, is there a dramaticdifference in where the golf ball is going?
Like, is the ball striking off by the othertwo, and it's far superior up there?
There is.
Brooks is off.
Brooks for sure.

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Like, are we seeing equitable shots where, youknow, they both have putts on every green and
somebody's a little closer?
I mean, what do we got?
Like
That's about 75% of it from what I saw.
I mean, I watched it from minute one, and I'msure Matt has this as well.
I mean, the tough part about this is whatyou're talking about is these guys have been in

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Vegas for at least two or three days.
They've been, you know, getting jerked aroundfor that entire time.
Woah.
Woah.
Woah.
By who?
I mean, literally, everybody's like, take apicture of
your therapist.
Like, what are you talking about in here?
Who knows?
Figuratively or not.
Who knows?
But the bottom line is they've been givenlessons and, you know, doing the PR thing.

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Yeah.
Doing the PR thing for a few days.
So it's probably to do the PR thing.
Yeah.
So I don't mean, like, they're out of the way.
Paid.
Yeah.
Who knows?
They're probably getting paid a shitload ofmoney.
It just so happens that crypto puts upsomething that could, at the end of the day, be
completely worthless.
But who knows?
So Brooks right now is one down to ScottieScheffler in the individual match.
There there's

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individual match.
I haven't seen Bryson and McIlroy yet in termsof where they stand at the moment.
Brooks actually just hit a good shot.
He's within about 10 feet.
He finally hit a good one.
I would say
they'd still tee it up if they were giving awaythat Hock Tula token?

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Yeah.
Because they're getting paid millions.
They're getting paid a million to show up.
No.
But, I mean, if you get that Hock Tula, that isbasically $0.
That's
well, so they loans.
I mean, they could say you're getting 10million of these, $0.
Still 0.
0.
Yeah.
Oh, but see, let me ask you.

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So so because I know, Matt, you you've spent alot of time in Vegas, and and and, actually, I
I guess I'll just ask you both.
But if you if you come to if it comes down toit and you're playing against guys that have
some sort of animosity, does it matter what youplay for?
Does it matter?
This is I just don't know.
That's what I'm asking.
Is this a made-up animosity?

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Is there really animosity between PGA Tour andLIV Golf?
Is that
Not anymore.
All made for TV, and these guys at the end ofthe day don't text each other and don't give a
fuck?
Like, I just don't know.
I mean, think I mean, we know because of thedeal.
I mean, at the end of the day, all of theseguys are gonna be getting millions and millions
of dollars to be playing golf and half the timeto just show up.

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So, I mean, if they're that hung up aboutBryson suing the tour and Brooks being kind of
an asshole, I don't think any of them reallygive a shit.
I mean, three of them are
Yeah.
Nike stoppers and the other one is clearlydoing great things on his own.
So they're probably all pretty secure.
Yeah.
I
don't think there's any animosity, and itshowed.

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I mean, they were all buddy-buddy and justgetting along and everything.
And yeah.
There's no—I mean, there's literally nothing ofthis whole LIV Golf PGA Tour.
They even tried to, like, frame it this way.
It's just cheese.
Like, it just says we're all fucking
That's a money grab.
We're insanely wealthy.

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Let's put on a show for everybody.
This is a factual money grab.
There you go.
Let's put on a fucking show.
Let's
I mean, but again, right, I mean, like what wesaid a few weeks ago, it's like, does it really
matter?
No.
Is this gonna grow the game?
No.
It does nothing but attempt to promote thesponsors and the players that show

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up as well, by the way.
There you go.
I mean, they're gonna win.
They're gonna—it's attempting to promote Vegasand get more tourism, which is why MGM probably
put up 10, 20 million for this.
They want it to be like a fight night.
You know?
It's a fight night.
Like, it's Well, I
also love the dynamic that the LIV Golf, like,Twitter crew just would have gone nuts and had

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so many storylines ready to go if Brooks andBryson won this thing, that it is—they're gonna
be embarrassed at this point.
Like, this is
Oh, yeah.
This is devastating to the LIV Golf crowd.
Monumental team.
Sorry.
It wasn't.
That was beautiful.
That was beautiful.

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Really getting excited with the ketones overthere.
Just wait until you mute this.
Oh, forgot about that.
We didn't do that.
Come on.
Three, two,
one.

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Oh, Matt, by the way, you absolutely 100% looklike you should be starring in "Land Man" right
now.
I love that show.
Big fan.
Watched one episode.
I need to
It was interesting.
I need to have that maybe as an alarm clock inmy phone because I don't think there'd be any
issues getting out of bed if that.
No.
Because you're like if that came on, I'd belike

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Brian Shane says he's gonna have to startsmoking some weed before their butt gets.
Oh, shit.
Oh, by the way, how do you love the the thebullshit creatine conversation between
Oh, Jesus.
By the way, ridiculous.
Let's see.
What do we what do we know about about too manygrams of creatine a day?

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What do we know about that?
Doesn't it go straight to your tits?
No.
I think, I think it might have
a small
potential effect.
Ten's not bad, depending on how much you weigh,but it could.
Your kidneys don't like an excess amount ofthat, I don't think.
Oh, what what do we have there?
It's clearing through your kidneys.

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And if it's not sticking in the body, thekidneys are dealing with it, man.
It's a lot.
You can get
I mean, the guy the guy is in good shape.
So, I mean, obviously, he knows what he'sdoing.
I just thought it was hilarious that, you know,he's giving creatine advice.
Ten grams is pretty solid.
Like, there's
nothing else that can be talked about.

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Nothing.
There's there's nothing else that can be talkedabout.
Dude, it's been so bland and dry in terms ofthe conversation.
It always is.
It's it's it's it was bland and it was evenworse with Tiger and Phil.
I mean, it this this Tiger
and Phil might have been the worst.
Yeah.
Oh, it was the worst.
I mean, they literally said two things to eachother.
Like, there's no gambling going on betweenthem.

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Like, as much money as these guys have made,I'd be throwing down a $100 for every putt and
be like, bitch, I bet you can't make
Those two guys are so advanced in their careerand have made so much money that they don't
even have to do the PR thing anymore.
They're just like, I don't really need to eventalk to you if I don't want to.
Oh, Brooks just won a hole.
Oh, he's back to even.

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That's amazing.
No.
He's back to 1.
Right?
He's back to 1 one down, I believe.
Yeah.
What time I get to square?
Back to all square with Scottie Scheffler.
But he's
And then Rory is 2 up, I believe.
They're 2 points down.
Right?
Yeah.
So they only need
to have
Well, no.
No.
No.
So how this all works is that it's based off ofa point system for every 6 holes.

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So there's 2 points up at stake.
If Scottie Scheffler wins, he'll get a point.
If Brooks wins, he gets a point.
Oh, no.
Vice versa and so forth.
But the point is it's 2.5 points to win thematch.
Right.
Right?
Correct.
I saw.
Okay.
So though in other words, all they gotta do istie.

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All they gotta do is tie.
Boy, that's just fantastic.
Thank you.
That's good.
That's all they gotta do.
So guys can't hear my son, can you?
No.
No.
Fantastic.
But I will just say this.
He's getting there.
He's getting there.
Trust me.
There was a, I don't know.

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There was something I was going to mention fromthe match early on when we're talking about
things that they were talking about.
Slap.
And how there really isn't anything to talkabout.
Just I can't remember.
The peak.
I got off track.
So hold on.
So we've got some comments that were made,right, during the warm-up or some sort of oh my

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god.
Something that happened with regards to somesort of tournament earlier this year, I
believe.
I know Rory
said, you know, I can't let Bryson do what hedid to me again or something like that.
And
I can't let him get me again.
I mean, it was damn near scripted.
Like, so I feel like there was a telepromptersomewhere.
I don't know.
Probably.
McIlroy's exact words were, I'd like to go upagainst Bryson and try to get him back for what

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he did to me at the U.S.
Open.
And then Bryson quickly replied with, to befair, you kinda did it to yourself.
Yeah.
And everybody lost their mind.
Count them 2.
Everybody's
like, oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Because it's the first time that we've everseen golfers trash talk.
Right?
Which is crazy.
This is the very first time that I think wehave ever heard, and people are just like, oh

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my god.
This is the craziest thing that has ever beensaid, the biggest burn ever.
And I even like, I post on X and was just putsome of those skull death emojis because I'm
just like, yeah.
That one kinda buried poor Rory.
Rory didn't even know how to come back fromthat.
But
So I did love got outdriven by Tiger.
It's hilarious.
I loved it that we actually had a little bit ofbanter, and then all of a sudden, I'm like, you

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know what?
This might not be that bad for the match.
You know, coming into this, they might actuallydo a little bit of trash talking.
You know, Bryson now is a YouTube personality,but you can tell how scripted the YouTube stuff
is.
Yeah.
Because of the fact that he's got nothing tosay out there.
Absolutely nothing.
Yeah.
He's not entertaining.

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Like, this is kind of as boring as you get.
Yeah.
I mean, this goes back to the kind of the stuffthat we were talking about last week is that,
like, how many times are we gonna watchsomething that gets blown out of the water?
And it's like, oh, it's Grant Horvat against soand so or Bryson and Jon Rahm against so and
so, and it's like you're seeing all of theseguys now playing with these YouTube—all these

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PGA Tour players playing with YouTube guys.
Right.
So throwing
stuff in
there.
Oh my god.
That's hilarious.
And that more interesting bowel movements.
What if we brought a little, like it'd be coolto see a little NBA action.
I know it'll never happen.
Like, can you imagine these guys, like, superrivalry?
16 at the Masters.
They're waiting to tee off, and we're actuallygetting some little elbows and, like, shoves on

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the tee box.
Like, you know, like, no.
Get out of the way, dude.
Like or yeah.
That'd be cool.
I don't know.
My wife works at a law firm, and on Fridaynight, I was at the office Christmas party,
right, for all these lawyers.
One of the lawyers comes up to me, one of thebig lawyers, and goes, man, wouldn't it be
great if we ever got to see, like, a golffight?
And I'm like, we literally talked about this onthe pod, like, a month ago.

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Well I'm
like, I'm gonna love to see it.
Keegan, that that was the closest I've everseen.
Sort of.
So Keegan, then you had you had you had thelittle deal with Brooks and Bryson, but the one
that was the closest was if if you rememberthis, Grayson Murray and Kevin Na almost fought
on the driving range.
And Kevin Na smashed.

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But here's the thing.
Here's what's crazy.
So I said the same thing.
I'm like, oh, Grayson's way bigger than he is.
He'd kick his ass.
And I got schooled on
Kevin Na's
ability with jujitsu or something.
Like, he's he's a black belt in something.
Yeah.
If it ain't jujitsu, then if it ain't jujitsu,it don't matter.

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Pounds.
Grayson's got him by Grayson had him by, like,75
He definitely had the weight on him.
That's for
Yeah.
Rest in peace, Big G.
Yeah.
Rest in peace there, Grayson Murray.
Glad glad glad you came back into theconversation here.
So the the conversation behind, the banter, asif golfers as if golfers don't do that on a

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normal basis, as if we don't all trash talk allday long.
That's the thing.
It's been so frowned upon, I feel like, on thePGA Tour for such a long time because you gotta
remember, like, back in Arnie's time, it wasall about the gentleman's sport.
And they carried that on way too long to whereit was very stuffy.

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It's very much like as much as I love ArnoldPalmer.
Right.
Like that PGA Tour was super stuffy.
Everything was you had to be perfect.
No swearing.
No nothing.
Now it's loosened up to the point to where,like, if we get some trash talk because all
golfers trash talk on the golf course.
Yes.
I mean, and in the locker room too.

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Like, I've heard that from numerous people.
Now guys will kinda give some shots at eachother.
There are.
But, like, and I always come back.
It's like my claim to fame when I actuallyfucking carried that bag out there.
There was no trash talk in that group.
Oh god.
Well, they're not gonna do it.
They're not gonna do it in tournament.
They don't know each other.
Yeah.
There it is.

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By the way, Trotty.
I mean, at the end of the day, nobody wants tobe responsible for somebody hitting a bad shot.
Right?
So I knew.
Well, not on the PGA Tour, I should say.
But I
cannot wait for Trotty to retire one day andbecome a course marshal, and that dude is just
going to absolutely rail people out there.

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I can't even wait.
It's gonna be You
throw these seconds behind.
Get it out.
My god.
That'd be hilarious.
Up to a ladies' ball and throwing it down thefairway for her.
So it's like going into a bunker and be like,you've had enough.
Yeah.
Time to move on.
I'm gonna pick it up for you.
You got a whole group of guys behind you thatare trying to get through here.

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I could just picture it.
The guy's like, dude, this isn't my ball.
Trot's like, it is now.
It is now.
Keep playing.
It is now.
You see that cynical right there?
Yeah.
That's you.
So I finally figured out what the hell I wasgonna talk about is how bad Bubba Watson is at
being an on-course, like

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He's there.
Personality.
Wow.
Dude, he's the one that is on course talkingabout their shots and stuff.
And I swear to God, he I I think somebody oncetold him, hey.
In order to be an on-course, like, golfanalyst, you have to speak in a monotone voice.
I have never heard Bubba Watson talk like this.

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No.
And he's so bad, but I wish you were watchingit and listening to his voice because you would
destroy him for and here is the shot.
He's going left.
He's not trying to be funny secretly.
Right?
No.
No, dude.
I think I think he's nervous.
I don't think he's had a lot of
experience with this.

(26:35):
As hell.
And he well, we all know he's got he's gotmassive, massive anxiety and and huge problems
anyways.
With
Why would he even volunteer to do this?
That's the thing.
I think he probably got paid.
Probably got paid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Weird.
Yeah?
Well, moving right along.
Yeah.
Oh, here you go.

(26:56):
Bubba is about as interesting as watching mydog lick his balls.
Which that's I don't know.
Brian, you were bringing some heat tonight.
I love this.
Brian is at New York.
Cocktails.
Yeah.
Loves it.
Sorry.
Cocktails.
What you got there, Buttsy?
Oh, that's just a ruby grapefruit little Claw.
Yeah.

(27:16):
I'm on the How about some how
about some White Claw stock?
That's what they should be playing paying forplaying for.
Like, he's not playing golf anymore.
Oh, that's Oh,
you know what?
He did.
He got relegated.
I don't know if he's on the RangeGoats thisyear as the captain of the team.
I don't think so.
You know, play.
Told you.
Oh, there you go.
Brent just had a pitcher of creatine.

(27:38):
That's great stuff.
grams of cream and cheese.
Now I hit it as far as Rory McIlroy.
Oh, man.
What are some of my other notes here in regardsto this match?
Yeah.
How much does that matter?
There's nothing great.
Oh, the only other thing that I would mentionabout this whole thing is okay.
We had to shrink the PGA Tour because we talkedabout daylight being a problem for people to

(28:02):
finish.
Yet the match can absolutely put up lights andhave night golf for this match.
Oh, yeah.
But the PGA Tour is like, nah.
That guys, that is that is not.
You can't because it changes the playing field.
Like, it it changes all of the circumstances.
The weather, though.
Like, think about the guys that are finishinglate.

(28:23):
It's gonna be the guys that are happy to stillhave a tour card.
Yeah.
In the in the 25 guys that are getting cut.
Weather's one thing because there's a chancethat everybody in the field may endure weather.
There's not a chance that everybody will endurenow having to play at night.
It's like they're not gonna let the thirdvariable in play.

(28:43):
I don't know.
That was well thought out, and that was wellsaid.
I mean, we all know that the daylight savingtime issue is just a reason for them to make
the PGA Tour smaller.
The Masters, the par 3 contest under the lightswould be electric.

(29:06):
Yeah.
But
Dude, I think the Masters just in general wouldbe electric at night.
What time would they play?
Who knows?
Tee off at 7?
That would be sick.
Prime time.
1?
All night long.
Can you imagine?
I mean, it's not realistic, but no.
You know, do you know how big some of theshadows would be on some of those holes?

(29:28):
Like, it
Oh, my gosh.
Insane.
Those trees are fucking
I'm talking about, like, Amen Corner, and as Iunderstand it, it, like, drops down like a
Oh, yeah.
Like, that'd all be black.
Like, it would be that course would look insaneat night.
Well, it's like it's amazing because, like, soShadow Creek is literally like, it's a man-made

(29:51):
spot.
Right?
There's no, like, there's no trees like thatanywhere else.
No.
It's like Raven South Mountain.
Like, yeah.
It's, it's, it's, they created it to feel likea tree-lined golf course in the middle of a
desert, and it's amazing.
Right?
So, I mean, you look at how pure that golfcourse is, and you're just sitting there going,
you're like, man, like, oh, that ball shouldstop.
And then the lights come on, and you see howit's just, just everything goes away.

(30:16):
I mean, the place is just so hilly, and it'sjust runny and it's fuck.
The place is fucking unbelievable.
But anyways, here, I
have a question.
I have
a question for you guys.
This goes back to the grass league.
How much time was that on, in daylight?
I didn't I didn't get to watch it.
Was it all under the lights?
Matty, do you know?
It was.
It was.

(30:37):
They started at night.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's pretty incredible.
Yeah.
That must have been kinda chilly, but itdoesn't matter.
Baseball game.
Like a baseball game.
Yeah.
I mean, what are we
I'm starting to get a feel that you are not afan of the cold.
Dude, I grew up in Hawaii.
My butt is very thin.
I would be a fan of the cold if I didn't have

(30:57):
a lot of issues with the cold.
I don't have to play golfing, and I love thecold.
It's great.
If I do, it's not fun.
I mean, I was thinking about doing the gametomorrow night at, at Grass Clippings, but it's
gonna be fucking chilly.
Like, yeah, by the time, 11:30 midnight rollsaround out there, it's not pleasant.

(31:18):
Matt, do you believe that you would do a betterjob of, how do I put this?
Announcing?
I wanna be politically correct because I don'tknow the correct term.
Is it announcing?
Being
a broadcaster?
A broadcaster.
Thank you for the correction.

(31:39):
Do you believe that you'd be a goodbroadcaster?
I don't know.
You know, that's a skill
set that
I mean think it would be great, dude.
You have
the voice for it.
You could have the voice, but you also have tobe able to, like, describe what you're seeing.
So, like, right now, Rory in front of thecreek, got a little downhill angle, and he is

(31:59):
pitching this to a tight pin.
He's got about five feet in order to land this.
So this is gonna be a tight one.
Like, your voice projection given the momentsgets perfect, dude.
You could absolutely do it.
Well and all he needs is a little bit ofJohnnie Walker, and all of a sudden, it just
gets over.
And here's an idea for you.
If you wanna go ahead and copy Bob Menery butbe golf specific, you got the voice for it.

(32:23):
You should absolutely be doing videos onInstagram, commentating golf videos in how you
do it.
Well, let me explain what just happened.
Rory just flubbed one, and it is actuallyrolling backwards.
He might actually be further away by the timethis ball stops than he was when he pitched
this thing.
This isn't good.
How far away was he?

(32:44):
He was about 30, 35, 40 feet.
He had a creek to pitch it over.
Did not do that well.
On green, it'll roll
do well at all.
It's cool.
Shortsighted, which I heard, Brent, you have alot of experience with, and it was incredible
just to see that ball just working its way awayfrom the pin.

(33:05):
No.
I don't know.
It's so far from the pin.
Rabbit.
I wasn't a shortsighted cue score.
That wasn't the problem.
No.
Not you.
Like, I know
it's a
segment tonight.
I think I skimmed over the notes, and it justlooks like the Filipino Tour won everything.
And I was like,
oh, like
Filipino Tour.
Yeah.
That's not Lanto Griffin won.

(33:26):
Here, let's talk about it real quick with theQ-School recap since you brought it up.
I don't even know who
that is.
I did get a I did get a nice little, a littlequote from Lanto this morning.
I sent him a text and had a nice littleconversation with him.
What did he say?
Well, I asked him about, you know, congrats onwinning Q-School, obviously.
And I said, so, was Jay there?

(33:46):
And he said, yeah.
And he said he shook my hand, gave me acongratulations, and he looked at him dead
square in the face.
He goes, yeah.
But how many starts am I gonna get?
Jay had no answer.
And then he just ignored him the whole time.
Well, I think I could tell him because Ifollowed Harrison Endycott last year, and I
think he got a well, he didn't get a PGA Tourstart through the Waste Management Open last

(34:08):
year.
What?
He didn't play Torrey he had to play Torrey andAnderson.
No.
No?
Couldn't get in?
Have it.
Interesting.
So even though you won Q-School, have your PGATour card, you're so low on the totem pole that
you can barely gain any access into thesetournaments.
Lanto Griffin sounds like a church fighter forthe UFC.

(34:31):
I do like that name.
It's a good name for a UFC fighter.
Mhmm.
Good dude.
Good dude.
For sure.
I do have big news though coming out of thegrass, clipping scam since we were talking
about it anyways.
Oh.
Let's go ahead and, take a look at this realquick.
Holy shit, guys.

(34:52):
Oh.
Oh.
You're like Roger Dorn from Major League.
Our guy who's not on tonight.
Todd Dodson is not on right now.
He posted this on the Instagram page.
And I put, you know, there's not too many proswith a 4 handicap that are out there in the

(35:16):
wild nowadays.
So, you know, come and have more
on that one.
I'm a free agent.
I'm ready to play.
Put me in, coach.
He's activated.
You know, it's funny.
What's this?
But see, our buddy Blaine actually sent me amessage off of the story and goes, hey, man.
I know because I played with you in thescramble that you played like a plus one that

(35:38):
day.
So I feel like Oh, they're
saying there's a chance.
If you put me on a team, I'm a hell of a teamplayer.
I'm not.
I have some info that I'm not going to sharewith you because it'll be shared with you, but
we'll just leave it at that.
Oh, you're such a come on.

(35:59):
Let's go.
Bring it on.
But he's getting in.
No.
No.
No.
It's it's good.
It's not for right now.
It's good.
It'll happen at a later date.
But he's getting
in the zone.
The guy's fucking gears a little bit.
It's gonna
be good.
Oh, mine?
I do.
I am the best available free agent that is a 4handicap.

(36:21):
K?
And people and people know this, just so youknow.
Yeah.
I was actually very surprised when I got taggedin that post by Todd today.
I wonder when that happened.
Did it actually did it happen 24 hours after heplayed with Todd?
He's just trolling you.
Like, not trolling you, but, like, that's like
Oh, he's trolling.
Alright.

(36:41):
Alright.
You're fucking
get him
Out of the bullpen.
He's in.
Oh my God.
That's fantastic.
Dude, if you need
a 40-year-old reliever, my man.
One of
the interesting conversations that I had today,kind of along those lines, is, like, the issues
that the Grizzlies had with the image, well,the owning of the image of the PGA

(37:06):
Tour.
Holy shit.
What?
Sorry.
Brooks just hammer fucked a putt about 18 feetpast.
It was only, like, a 30-foot putt.
Fans are cold.
Hands are very Oh, God.
Again,
that looks like me and Mountain Shadows on acold morning for sure.
Doesn't and he doesn't have the broom.
He doesn't have the, you know, his level outthere.

(37:29):
Well, he said Brooks.
No.
Brooks, not Bryson.
Oh, Brooks.
Well, whatever.
Brooks, Bryson, something
like that.
But, so as you guys know, the, anybody thatplays in a Korn Ferry tour event or gets a, PGA
Tour card or plays in a section, their image isowned by the PGA Tour.
And that's why the PGA Tour players weren'table to play in the grass league even though,

(37:52):
obviously, there's, you know, a 100 that livein Phoenix.
Did you guys know that the NBA profit shareswith the the the the the the the the the the
the the the the the the the the the the the thethe the the the the the the the the the the the
the the the
the the the the the the the the the the the thethe
the the the the the the the the the the the thethe the
the the the the the the the the the the the thethe the the the the the the the
the the the the the the the

(38:16):
scramble.
You're not shooting.
No.
I'm not saying that, dear lord.
He said I played like a plus one because Ithink we were, like, 13 under as a scrambled
team.
Well, as a two-man, which and I I mean, knowswe we took on a couple at Mountain Shadows and
shot what did we shoot?
9 under?

(38:37):
Got it, dude.
I don't know.
I had her going that day.
You did too.
It was a good ham and egg.
You made more birdies than me, though.
I think you made five.
I I made four.
And I think, actually, it might have been sixand five because I think we bogeyed a hole
together.
Yeah.
I think we yeah.
It was like a 12-yard hole.
As a best ball, by the way, not a scramble.

(38:58):
That was a best ball.
Yeah.
That's impressive.
Well for
4 handicap pro?
Abs-fucking-lutely,
it is.
Absolutely.
And there you have it, folks.
4-3 golf, more to come.
Oh, Jesus.
Here we go.
Here we go.
And here we go.
Back to you, Jim Nantz.
We're here at 18th.
Holy shit.
Brooks just hammered that putt 10 feet past thehole.

(39:25):
So I'm saying you dude, you're a
you got it.
God.
That would be honestly, you really need to dothat shit.
Imagine if everybody watching heard that.
Man.
They will.
It would I I tell you what, it'd be a lot moreentertaining than what what we have with I
mean, fucking Bubba Watson out there.
Jesus.
There'd be people going to X typing out,please, like, explain what hammer fucked means

(39:49):
and, like, oh, you'd just be great.
Oh my gosh.
That's just fucking terrible.
I mean, what does hammer
Hashtag
Matt Cook.
Hashtag.

(40:09):
If we
if we had a good lip out,
what if we had
a good lip out like Bryson a few like, early onin this show, and, Bryson lipped out.
Holy shit.
That ball lipped out faster than a prom dresson prom night.
Oh.
I mean, there's just
there's just some things that we can roll without there.
Lip
I would ask Bryson I would I wanna interviewBryson about other long drivers because I think

(40:36):
half those guys are autistic.
He might be.
Oh.
Brent just mentioned Beth Dutton wants herpouty mouth back, and, I will say this.
I did.
Last night, I watched the season finale of,
Yellowstone.
Don't tell me none.
I've never seen that show.
Is it good?
Wild.
Fantastic.
Don't tell me
none.
Wild.

(40:57):
I I haven't watched it yet.
Wild ending.
Oh, well, you know, Kevin Costner.
Well, you got something to look for him too,Brent.
Yeah.
That's all I got.
Yep.
That's all you got.
Podcast.
That's it.
That's it.
That's all you get.
Where are
these fucking show notes at here?
What are we
Dude, that's what I was just wondering.
Q's got work in the morning.
Lanto Griffin wins.

(41:20):
He won the 2019 Houston Open, so he isn't anobody.
And he's got 11 top 10 finishes on tour, andhe's made 65% of cuts.
And my question to you guys, if you made 65% ofcuts, would you consider yourself a successful
PGA Tour player?
I think you would consider yourself, yeah.

(41:41):
I'm defining that as you definitely belong outthere.
Like, you're part of the crew.
Yeah.
Successful?
I don't know.
I mean, that's subjective, right?
But, 65% of cuts, and where the fuck?
Why are you at Q School?
That's crazy.
That's the other question that I have.
Right?
Okay.
Did you just miss, like, 30% of cuts this year?

(42:04):
Like, you 30% of that?
You got a C-plus in fucking playing tour golf.
That's not good enough to pass?
I don't know.
Not out there.
You gotta get a B or better.
Oh, it's less about the cuts made and moreabout what he does on the weekend.
And the bottom line is if you don't finishinside the top 20, it don't mean jack shit.

(42:26):
Based on how it's structured.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
That's why he's I mean, 2019, you know, what?
We're going on six years ago.
Well,
I mean, he only gets a two-year exemption.
One of those years was COVID.
So if he didn't play well in 2022, 2023, and Idon't think he played well this season, you

(42:47):
know, you're kinda on the outs.
So
Here's a question for you, and I don't wannaoverstep Brian because he's really getting
active in the comments right now.
No.
Go ahead,
Buttsy.
You got this.
Could you make 100% of cuts that you started inand not have a tour card?

(43:08):
Yes.
That's
That's insane.
Wild?
That's wild.
That's insane.
I'm gonna actually, that's, I'm gonna put thatup on X.
I'm gonna be like, fun fact.
Well, your fact checker there is, and I, Idon't know if is that true?
Correct.
Is that 100% true?
No.
If you don't finish, there's no way.
If you don't finish inside of the top 20,

(43:32):
So you make the cut, you shoot 82-82 on theweekend every time.
You're not keeping your cut.
Oh, absolutely not.
If you finish dead last in every tournamentthat you play in and make, I think the number
is anywhere from $25,000 to $45,000 and you'llactually drop in FedEx Cup points because
everybody ahead of you is making more pointsthan you.
I mean,

(43:52):
just so a guy that makes 10% of the cuts butfinishes in the top 20 can smoke you.
Si Woo Kim.
Okay.
Si Woo Kim's entire career was based off ofessentially, I think, one or two wins.
Real talk.
Before that time,
before he won the Players, he missed, like, 9out of 10 cuts or whatever it was.

(44:13):
You know what the best part of this night golfis?
When they miss it offline, they have no cluewhere these golf balls are going.
Yeah.
It shows out of the life.
That.
Okay.
Shows out of the life.
That iron that Brooks hit into the shit whereBryson had to hit it out of the hit with the in
the bunker and hit a—he actually hit a greatshot.
Even the spotters didn't even know where itwas.

(44:35):
Camera guy did, so kudos to that guy.
Yeah.
He just hammer fucked that thing.
You know?
Hammer fucked it.
That's what Deborah—you guys like that,
like that term, good old hammer fuck.
Yeah.
That could be on a shirt, I think, or
a hat.
Yeah.
Definitely needs to be, like, number 49.
Hammer.
Swinging hammer.
I'm like, you know, hammer, fuck it in.
His logo.

(44:55):
You need to
make a logo, but
Buttsy, I think you should draw it up.
Let's get some shirts up there.
Yeah.
Let's get some shirts going.
P p h f u c k e.
I wanna do, midriff eighties, A.C.
Slater football midriffs, but golf oriented.
So
And hammer fucked to be on the be on the back?
Yeah.
Like, the net ones where you nimble stickthrough it.
You know?

(45:16):
Do it.
I'm in.
So not surprising, Brent.
So PGA Tour player, Michael Kim, just recentlyshared on Twitter that in 2024, he spent 90k on
Don't start this shit.
You don't wanna have
this dude.
Station.
We'll be here all night long.
Fucking, Patty P about this.
He's like, dude, 1 year just like because I hada few bucks.

(45:39):
Just staying at nicer hotels.
Mhmm.
I was
like a $175 in, like, cost just to go and playin all the shit I played in.
Easy.
Like, what?
This is this is one of the this is one of thethings.
And, again, I'm you guys can talk if you guyswanna go fucking headlong into this, we can.
No.
But but but so, how many NBA players do youthink there are?

(46:04):
I actually know 400?
There's 563 or something.
7 between the the the NBA and the NBA G League,I think there's 730 players.
Alright.
That makes sense.
What the minimum salary guaranteed salary isfor the lowest
Yeah.
$75,000 is is the guy that is the worst player

(46:25):
Say it again.
Who doesn't play.
So between the NBA and the G League, the lowestpaid player who doesn't play is $75,000.
Now that guy doesn't pay for a single flight orhotel or meal or anything like that.
So it's like $300?
Yeah.
So, I mean, what it ends up coming down to isevery single dollar that is made by the NBA,

(46:48):
that includes all the money from China and theNBA app, that includes all the TV deals,
everything is split 50-50 between the playersand the NBA.
Every single ball
can garner but they garner that, like, inviewership and the amount of money that the
fans spend on merch.
Like, it's a whole big business breakdown.

(47:09):
So I'll
give you I'll give you an example.
How much do you think how much do you thinkNike pays the NBA?
Probably, like, over a billion.
Two.
Yeah.
So that's a billion to the NBA and a billion tothe players.
Gotcha.
And that goes for every single sponsor.
Or talked about
just looked at what was happening on the match,and I really thought for a second, Brooks was

(47:33):
taking a piss in the woods, and they justhappened to capture him.
He is deep into the woods.
Mhmm.
Getting hammered fucked.
How do you hit a shot at night out of thewoods?
Do they bring over a mobile light for you?
Yeah.
They got here.
That's exactly what they're doing.
Really?
They literally have a light that they haverepositioned.

(47:53):
Moving it around like
Yeah.
They, like, spun it around, and now it is afucking spotlight on him.
It's way off
This is pretty neat.
Way off topic here.
I'm just gonna bring this up for a secondbecause we're talking about light, and I have
ADHD.
So I'm just gonna tell you about this.
Did you see this startup that is sellingsunlight?
Did you see this?

(48:14):
Did you see what they're doing?
Now that sounds crazy, right?
This is supposedly gonna happen because they'vealready tested this with a high-altitude
balloon.
What they're going to do, they're trying to getenough money on Kickstarter to launch
satellites with mirrors on them into outerspace, and you have an app.
And if you wanna light a baseball field forthree hours, you go on the app and you swipe

(48:39):
and you pay your $1,000 or whatever it is foryour buddies to play golf, and it will light
whatever it is.
Your sunlight?
Yes.
They're redirecting sunlight to where you're aton Earth even when it's dark.
Now I don't think it's ever gonna hold anywater, but, anyways, I just thought about that.
Big ass they gotta have that a big ass mirror
in order to do that.
Would not no.
You don't really need a big ass mirror.

(49:00):
Not when you're up there.
You know?
But that's okay.
Can you imagine the implications?
Like, PGA tours is like they're they're nolonger You
could just light up a whole golf course withouthaving to deal with any of this.
A hundred percent and nobody the homes wouldn'tbe affected around it.
You just light up the golf course.
Like, you know, in Alaska in the middle ofwinter, you know, they can get sunlight.
It's it's incredible.
We should try it.
Yeah.
Let's try it at Palm Brook.

(49:21):
Let's get a bunch of people together, pitch insome money, and try this Kickstarter out.
But Brian also asks here, what percentage dothe players on the PGA Tour get at the TV
rights deal?
We don't get below 50%.
We don't get any money.
We don't get any money.
They get a dollar out
of it.
No.
There is no guaranteed percentage.

(49:41):
No.
That was one of the reasons Phil
was so pissed off about his legacy andeverything on the PGA Tour because he wasn't
making money off of his likeness out there.
Do you get paid based on your airtime, though,if you're in the top 10 and they're showing
you, like, all of Sunday?
Are you getting paid?
You're sponsoring
I wonder if that was part of PIP.
If PIP because you got some guys like BrianHarman wasn't big on social media, wasn't a

(50:07):
personality, but he was on the 2023 PIP listafter he won the Open Championship.
And so he had a lot of TV time, so I'm surethat that played a part.
Yeah.
I mean, the PIP simply was a way to keep guysfrom going to the LIV tour.
And if you played well enough and were RickieFowler, basically, or Tiger Woods, you got on

(50:29):
that list as sort of a nice little thank you atthe end of the year.
And instead of redirecting $300 million to theentire membership
for the thank you there is true that there is aand Brent knows this, but there is a pension
that I think you have to be out there for
a certain amount of money.
5 consecutive years.
5 years.
Yeah.
Because that was one of the big considerationsPat had to make of giving that up to go over to

(50:52):
LIV.
And it's based on it's like Social Security.
Right?
It's like based on what you earned.
Right?
Yep.
And it's
Well, it's actually what you defer.
So there's, there's, there's, you can defer Xpercent X amount per year, and then they've
got, like, three different plans, and there'sthe FedEx
And they invest it for you and all that?
Yeah.
There's, there's three different ones, but, Imean, I'll give you an example.

(51:13):
Yeah.
So that so Garrigus is one of my good buddies.
You know, he's a bass fisherman.
Phenomenal.
The fish was this big.
The amazing thing is he's probably got anywherefrom I think it's something like $10 to $15
million in his account.
From what he's done?

(51:34):
Correct.
No.
I mean, I'm sorry.
Not $10 to I'm I'm sorry.
Not $10 to $15.
It's $5
But you're saying he had the choice to justlike you pick when you work for somebody, like,
I wanna put this much into retirement.
Correct.
Okay.
So it's just like
So yeah.
It's it's it's almost identical.
Ours is better because there's, there'sobviously multiple companies pitching in and

(51:55):
matching and stuff.
But the the the actual numbers are kinda arekinda crazy.
I mean, a guy like Fred Couples, for example,his retirement's amazing even though he didn't
necessarily play in a in a in the FedEx Cup.
But a guy like Vijay Singh, his retirement is afucking joke.
It's it's unbelievable.
$75,000, by the

(52:15):
way.
Okay.
And Bryson had hooked one.
Paul hooked one.
Deep into the trees as well.
So both
Brooks and Bryson just had to pitch out.
So it looks like both of them are gonna head to2 down in their matches with 2 to play, which
means, dormie, it'll be over.

(52:38):
How amazing.
Twitter's going wild right now, apparently,according to the match on TNT.
And Twitter is saying that, get your broomsready because the PGA Tour is sweeping this
shit.
Oh, god.
It's amazing.
How fucking original are you?
Playing it up a little.
Listen.
They're playing it up a little.
Are you fucking those guys, the only reason whyyou would tweet hashtag the fucking showdown is

(53:03):
so the hashtag the showdown is so they fuckingis so they get shown on TV.
That's it.
Absolutely.
Why wouldn't you?
Hey.
You know what?
Good for you.
I'm I'm I'm I'm happy for the fans that arereally being entertained by this.
Not anybody that's ever played golf at any sortof level.
Let's get into something here, which is fromJay Monahan's announcement.

(53:27):
Did you guys see this?
I got the email this morning of the whole deal.
Yeah.
So you got the whole deal.
He put out a video of what's coming.
Right?
So first of all, there is going to be a CEOsearch for the PGA Tour, which, one of our
followers on X threw out there that, well, JayMonahan is the commissioner.

(53:52):
Mhmm.
It's not a replacement for him.
That wasn't really where I was going with it orwhere Jay was going with it.
Mhmm.
Not at all.
Back in March, Jay Monahan was made the CEO ofPGA Tour Enterprises.
So I don't think they're gonna bring back in acommissioner per se.
I got a feeling based off of that announcementthat they're gonna bring in a CEO of the PGA

(54:16):
Tour.
So one of the crazy things here is that PGATour Enterprises is the for-profit business.
Mhmm.
Then under that umbrella, you have thenonprofit organization of the PGA Tour.
I do not know how that is legal,
by the way.
No clue whatsoever.
It doesn't make sense to have a for-profitcompany owning a nonprofit.

(54:38):
Don't get it.
But,
that being said, not to mention the fact thatwe don't even really know what PGA Tour
Enterprises means, what they do, or anythinglike that.
It seems as though that's basically just a wayto funnel money into whatever they want to do
with the money that they make from theinvestment.
Well, let's not get our tinfoil hats on quiteyet.

(54:59):
Well, I want to name 10 people that work forthe PGA Tour Enterprises.
I mean,
One of the things that we have been talkingabout a lot over the past year is the fact that
their media and the promotion of players and soforth has been pathetic at best.
For years.
Yeah.
PGA Tour, Buttsy, you'll get interested inthis.

(55:21):
PGA Tour Studios is opening in 2025.
Laying.
So that is their own media division withoffices and their studios and everything.
So they're actually going to try, and I have afeeling that this is part of the whole SSG kind

(55:41):
of push the, hey, you guys, you really need tohave this media aspect behind you because
otherwise, guys are coming on tour.
Nobody knows who they are.
All of a sudden, they win.
Nobody knows who they are, and you guys aren'tdoing a great job when it comes to promoting
these players and so forth.
So that being said, that's also why they havethat creator group that's going to be a part of

(56:03):
creating content and helping them with contentmoving into 2025.
So what do you think about that?
The media production side of this was in theplans.
It's been in the plans for years.
So the SSG component of it, it comes in after,when they started building it, had the plans

(56:24):
for it, and the idea was that they just simplywanted to bring all of the media under one
roof.
That's all they wanted to do, and I canguarantee you that it's not in hopes that
they'll be able to tell more stories because Ican guarantee you they don't know that.
And then as far as the media or social mediainfluencer side of this, that is like something

(56:46):
that somebody basically thought up in a roomfive seconds ago.
It's like, oh, well, maybe we need to bringthese people in.
Maybe they know what they're doing, and thenthey brought in people that basically have no
ability whatsoever to actually play golf butknow about social
media.
Market.
Well, yeah.
I mean, people think social media influencersare also experts in marketing, and

(57:07):
they're the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
People.
They have no idea, like, outside of and I onlysay that because I've lived in that world for a
fucking decade.
Yeah.
Ain't it?
We all know those people.
It's not like we don't have personal experiencewith every single one of their creators.
By the way, they've got a tour with a lot ofcreators that, if they just gave them, I don't

(57:28):
know, ten shots per week, they could actuallysponsor them, you know, get sponsors, grow fan
bases, and do all of these things.
And it's just something they're incapable ofdoing even though every other sport, you know,
doesn't do it that way.
One
of the funniest guys on Twitter, a pro and afan just said it was secret.
Brian, you can't read it under your breath.

(57:50):
This is a podcast.
You have to read it out loud if you're gonnaread it.
One of the funniest guys on Twitter
Wait.
Who's saying this?
Be able to read out
Ryan Shane, Hyperdoodles, one of the funniestguys on Twitter, a pro-LIV fan just said he was
secretly wishing for the PGA Tour guys to winsince they've been taking so many L's lately.

(58:11):
LOL dude is severely delusional.
That's true.
That's, I told you, they're gonna have a reallytough time with, like, justifying because they
were saying how they were going to destroy andshow the world that LIV Golf is better than the
PGA Tour.
Like, they're the ones that got hyped on this.

(58:32):
Everybody else was just kinda like, thisthing's gonna suck.
This is a money grab.
It is what it is.
Like, I feel like nobody really on the PGA Tourside was, like, hyping this up.
Don't get me wrong.
Was, like, hey, if there's a slight chance inhell that these LIV Golf guys can beat the PGA
Tour guys, their year is gonna be absolutelymade.

(58:54):
Yeah.
For sure.
Well, because again Yeah.
But what a stupid thing to put on a pedestalfor one night in, like
One night in golf that is literally
It's not representative of, like,
yes.
Yes.
We win.
No.
Nobody gives a shit.
They need to go
and hire people over I agree.
At a little thing called Happy MadisonProductions, the same people that produce the

(59:17):
Happy Gilmore franchise, and bring those peopleover that can add some zest and some fun and
actually know how to sell something.
Hiring a male influencer off Instagram toconsult on what you need to do.
I mean, I don't think they're really doingthat.
I don't think that's actually happening becauseyou would get this guy in a boardroom, talk to

(59:38):
him for five minutes, be like, oh, no.
I'll just hit stingers, and people seem to loveit.
I think we should have everybody hit stingers.
That's well done, Buttsy.
Well done.
Buttsy.
Yeah.
Well well done.
I
Yeah.
Give him give him a little button.
Give him give
him a little button.
Come on.
Give him a little button.
just dropped in there that, the piperdoodlespart of his YouTube is because of his daughter.

(01:00:03):
So we're not gonna hate on that whatsoever.
I love that.
Paige Spiranac.
Yeah.
So Paige Paige, Buttsy.
Well, that makes sense.
That actually makes sense.
Because she
doesn't have to do anything.
No.
Just like
she just shows assets and literally niceenough, girl.
I mean yeah.
She could play a little stick too.

(01:00:24):
I've played with her many times.
She's fucking really good at golf.
Like, low key, really good.
Hits it a long way.
Can go out and show out and and yeah.
She's got her moments.
For sure.
A word.
Like, here's what you're gonna say.
But yeah.
You're right.
She doesn't have to say a word.
Not a damn thing.
She can just post a picture.

(01:00:44):
And that's not to discredit her at all.
No.
You
know?
It just is what it is.
People like what they like.
They gotta do what they gotta do.
Yeah.
But so so they've got what?
Tisha.
They've got George.
They've got who who who's who do they got?
So
they got Good Good.
Right?
And then they've got Barstool with Fore Play.
They also have Bob Does Sports is in there.

(01:01:09):
Mhmm.
And you've got Got Tish.
They got them.
They've got Who's
the black guy?
Bryan Bros.
on, dude?
Yeah.
Roger Steele.
Sorry.
It it he was in my head.
I could picture him.
I just couldn't freaking say
his name.
Roger for a long time, and, Roger I
like Roger.

(01:01:29):
I like Roger.
No.
He flat out gets it.
He's a salesman.
Like, he's a salesperson.
He's a marketing guy.
He understands people.
He understands what he's doing.
He's really good, and that's why he's attainedwhat he's attained.
You know what I mean?
Like so the I was
really impressed with him during the wholeCreator Clash.
Yeah.
No.
He's he's a sharp motherfucker.

(01:01:51):
I don't know.
Or three dozen people that the PGA Tour hasemployed over the last however many years that
are supposed to go out there and sell theplayers to get them money and to get them out
there.
I think they're gonna provide ideas of, like,what works because here's the thing.
Let's be honest about this.
Oh, why not listen to the players?
Doesn't have
a ton of virality.
Like and it's coming from somebody that studiesthis stuff.

(01:02:13):
It's like, you've got people that are puttingout posts that go viral all the time.
Mhmm.
And they can tell you what it takes in order toget there and what type of media could
potentially be created around it.
I'm actually okay with them bringing increators on social media to get a better
understanding of what they need to do in orderto promote you guys.

(01:02:34):
Just just talk
to do that.
That's what
I'm saying, though.
You know?
But, I mean, again, right, so we're
Based on
spending money on things, but we're spendingmoney on things that that that are just gonna
end up right back into the same box, which iswhat we we we figure out a way for the tour to
promote other the the players that they have.
Oh, by the way, they've got 150 of them thatthey refuse to show on TV.

(01:02:57):
And so what?
We're gonna go to classes for with with withGood Good teaching us how to be Instagram
influencers even though oh, by the way, wedon't own our own images.
Oh, shit.
The match is over.
The match is over.
They're shaking hands.
Rory and Scottie, I believe it's a full sweep.
So they have officially won the showdown.

(01:03:21):
And Well, so
that means that the PGA Tour is better better.
Way better.
I mean, there's no doubt there it's not evenclose.
Not even close.
Nope.
That is a representation, and it is all thatpeople need to say that the PGA Tour is just a
better product, and it produces better players.
And we saw that here tonight.

(01:03:42):
Seventh major.
There you
go, folks.
There you have it.
The PGA Tour is, I mean, it's not even remotelyclose.
Back to the marketing thing.
Why don't we just, like, before we go and hireall these people, why don't we just start with
some baby steps here?
How about we just, just like in baseball orwhatever, how about we show these upcoming

(01:04:05):
prospects?
How about we tell their story?
Let's just start there, and let's put out thestory and who they are and then find out.
You know, you take 10 of them.
Two of them are gonna be somewhat cool, andhone in on those motherfuckers and let them
represent the upcoming class and continue toshow their journey because they have a little

(01:04:27):
zest and they have some camera like, they cantalk and they're funny.
Let's find the next Max Homa that doesn't evenhave to win fucking three majors.
Like, show those guys.
This isn't that hard.
I I just don't understand
my way.
It just goes back to the same argument.
Right?
So they're talking about building players'brands.
Right?
And they said the same thing to us atorientation.

(01:04:49):
They're like, we're gonna build your brand.
It's like, why are you
how to.
But exactly.
Why are you responsible?
But why are you responsible for building mybrand?
That doesn't make any sense to me.
You're gonna you're gonna put me out there andmarket me?
That's the dumbest thing.
Here's the
here's the thing, though, Brent.
Technically, a good organization.
And when I say that, I look at the UFC, whichhas to promote and build up these fighters all

(01:05:15):
the time because you never know when all of asudden a fighter is gonna take a downturn, and
then they're gonna be done.
Right?
Ronda Rousey looked at that one.
And they thought, oh, my God.
The world is crumbling.
And then all of a sudden, Conor McGregor cameinto the picture.
They built up all these people and gave themthe right push.
In order to turn them into what they became.
They were a huge media arm promoting thesefighters.

(01:05:38):
So I disagree with you there.
I really think that PGA Tour pros, as soon asyou come on tour and you're a new member, they
should be boosting the shit out of you.
They should I'm saying
they don't promotional standpoint.
Yeah.
I'm saying they don't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They don't.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm trying to say.
So then we hire so then we hire a bunch of guysthat that that do fake things, with golf that

(01:05:59):
can't break par
ever.
The most ridiculous thing ever.
Get away from the influencers.
And we're gonna and we're gonna what?
We're gonna market players as if they're socialmedia influencers, which by the way
come in the minority here.
I think it was a smart idea to bring in thecreators.
No.
Or the golf golf.
Spend that money on actually marketing players.
Clown of golf.
Like
Okay.
So I have a question to both of you on this.

(01:06:21):
I'm gonna ask you first, Buttsy.
When it comes to them bringing in theinfluencers, was this a was this kind of a
reactionary move because of what LIV Golf wasdoing on the social media side?
No.
I think it's the simple, some dumb idiot that'sin marketing was like, look what these guys
have been able to do, and they're nothing.

(01:06:42):
If we bring them over and at least obtain somesort of brilliance of what they've got going
on, this will be good for us, and this willcoolify the PGA Tour.
And we can at least get something from whatthey're doing to help us be more modern and
more relevant on the apps that people use toshare this shit, which is Instagram and Twitter

(01:07:03):
and all that other shit.
So why don't we go to the experts?
But they're not experts.
These are people that have garnered a followingthat happens to be golf for very specific or
personality-based reasons.
There's no help there to take a hugeorganization and make it the same way.
Like, you can't apply what somebody that's beenchugging beers and myself included.

(01:07:28):
Right?
Like, you can't apply what somebody has doneand think that the PGA Tour product is gonna
elevate itself from a marketing perspective andthe players that are coming up based on
anything that these people have to say.
You need to just start from fucking square oneand say, let's just try something different
from a classical marketing perspective andfucking show who they are.

(01:07:49):
Just show them.
Just give them some fucking airtime.
And like I said, find the ones just like thePGA Tour's done, but they only do it once these
guys have become super successful.
Yes.
Correct.
They seek out the ones exactly.
They seek out the ones that have personalityand are cool and successful, and they ride
their fucking jockstrap into the sunset.

(01:08:11):
And that's why we only see a few groups onSunday, and we have no idea who the prospects
are and who we should be looking out for.
Like, take what you've already done.
You already know how to do it.
You already know how to market the best playersin the game, and do it with the up-and-coming
stars that haven't won yet.
That's it.
Pretty simple.
Like, I don't understand why you're bringingall these other fucking idiots in here, and I

(01:08:34):
can't even imagine these influencers sitting ina boardroom listening to somebody talk real
business outside of somebody like Roger Steelebecause he is a good businessman, and he knows
what he's talking about.
But it's I think it's the worst idea ever, andthey're going to set themselves back another
year or two by even entertaining that.
So that's my point.
Brent, onto

(01:08:54):
you.
Yeah.
I mean, just to build on that.
Obviously, you know, I've got my personalreasons as to why, you know, I don't agree with
the marketing media side of the PGA Tour andwhat they've done, you know, just trying to
find the next Tiger Woods.
But with that said, I think that it'sridiculous that they have built what they've

(01:09:18):
built, spent the money that they've spent.
And, basically, what this comes down to isthey're farming out their players like a Xander
Schauffele, who I believe just played withGoodGood.
I think on the LIV side, there are a couple ofguys that have played with some of these guys
as well.
And I'll just be straight up and honest withyou.

(01:09:38):
I love you both.
You're good friends of mine.
It doesn't it doesn't
the hell
out of here.
It doesn't, you know, it doesn't feel this way.
I'm gonna say that.
I'm gonna say that because this is gonna sting.
Any time I'm playing with people that are not,you know, high-level professionals, if I'm
playing in a setting like on a YouTube thing orwhatever, or a Pro-Am, guess the fuck what?

(01:10:03):
It's a Pro-Am, which means I'm probably givingdirection or lessons or talking some bullshit
out the side of my mouth going, yeah.
Well, where are you from?
Yeah.
Well, the whatever.
Oh, that was so cool.
And there are more people out there watchingGood Good playing golf than there are, you
know, some random Korn Ferry Tour player.
And it's

(01:10:24):
Well, the reason that is
is because
ridiculous.
That's the only thing that they have toconsume.
Yeah.
100%.
What they see on the weekend.
But the reason is because the PGA Tour has keptall of us down.
I mean, think about what they did to Bryson in2020.
Right?
So when Bryson was doing his channel, right,working out, doing all that stuff during COVID

(01:10:46):
when none of us were playing, and the PGA Tourtold him to shut it down.
Like, that's the most ridiculous thing I'veever heard.
Yeah.
Jimmy, you're absolutely right.
The PGA Tour just wants to ride the YouTubegolfers' wave so they can get viewership
ratings up.
But it's not good for them.
Here's the problem.

(01:11:07):
It's not gonna happen because guess what?
They're not gonna fucking change.
They're not gonna change how they market andhow viewers view the PGA Tour on a week-in and
week-out basis.
I'm gonna tell you what they need to do.
They used to have something back in the '50s,'60s.
They need to bring back, they need to find asponsor for it, like Shell's Wonderful World of

(01:11:28):
Golf.
Oh my god.
Buttsy, I was thinking about that tonightbefore the match came on because good lord.
I missed
their YouTube stuff.
Gosh.
I mean, could you imagine the actual
Wonderful World of Golf being
right now?
They back up with what they say that they wannagrow our brands and all that other stuff, and

(01:11:48):
we actually go out and film the stuff
Yeah.
on a weekly basis by the way that they're not
a single tour event.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Bring back Skins Game.
Bring back all the stuff, like, and put it onYouTube.
It'd be so great.
I mean, here's the thing.
I actually forgot to bring this up earlierbecause of what we talk about.

(01:12:10):
Dude, that is about the most thuggish outautistic looking freaking raging buffalo.
I got that picture when he when he when he tookit, by the way.
He sent it.
He sent it out.
That was in the bathroom, in the clubhousebecause I had to go buy a belt because I was
the only guy there that had his shirt untucked.
And I was like, I'm doing it anyways.
There's no freaking rule for this.

(01:12:31):
Yep.
And we matched the shirts that week, and itlooked quite interesting.
Was it?
I pulled the sleeve off to show off the bicep.
You can see that there.
And, man, I was just feeling tough right there.
You're working out, man.
Everything.
Yeah.
That's, like, 6:14 a.m.
with the lights on on the range, and Ben waswarming up, and I went in and snapped that

(01:12:51):
badass selfie.
What was it?
Because you were wearing the badge?
And the badge.
Yeah.
The badge.
I mean, let's talk about this.
Plus 0.7.
Not too shabby.
39.
I thought you were older, but that's okay.
Possibly.
Yeah.
That's right.
You're a little younger than me.
A z, obviously.

(01:13:12):
I don't know.
Can I scroll on this thing?
Let's see.
Let's scroll down.
Oh, we got through this thing really fast.
Gold Canyon Golf Resort is your home course.
And the plus-size model.
Here we go.
Plus-size model, amateur professional golfer,lover of tacos and drinker of Coors Lattes.

(01:13:33):
Beautiful.
That's fantastic stuff out of you.
He made that during the round with Todd Dobson.
That's fantastic.
Did.
No.
Actually, that was on there last week too.
Oh, okay.
And that's actually been on there for a longtime.
Yeah.
Try
out to know when you turn 40.
For a while.
Oh, we got to circles.

(01:13:53):
I need to Yeah.
I don't blame him for saying that because Ifeel he probably feels like I've been saying
I'm not 40 for, like, two years.
April.
April.
That's right.
So, I mean, I don't know, guys.
Like, think about it.
So I don't wanna think.
What would be well, no.
We're not gonna we're we're moving on fromthat.
But what would be the reason why what would bethe reason why you bring you bring these

(01:14:16):
fucking no-load influencers that can't break 80out there, and they're fake golfers?
They get people to sign NDAs because they'reafraid of losing, I mean, all of this other
shit.
Fun and be cool.
Yeah.
Well, that sounds like some fucking group ofpeople that just got out of college or just
started working for the PGA Tour.
Said, you know what would be great?

(01:14:38):
If we just hire the influencers, and then we'lljust let them decide what we do.
It's like speak to a majority of theviewership.
It doesn't speak to who's really consuming theproduct.
It's just
everyone that has to any idea who those fuckingpeople are.
I think we gotta go back to just thedevastation that these LIV Golf fanatics are

(01:14:59):
feeling right now.
Their world is, like, their world is crushed.
It shouldn't be.
Bryson still won the U.S.
Open.
Yeah.
But Buttsy, you should have seen some of thesetweets heading into the match.
Like, they were they were for sure, like
100% morons.

(01:15:19):
LIV Golf is going to prove they're thegreatest.
All this stuff.
I mean, it was what is a
lot this is what's amazing is
what oh
my god.
That's for Matthew.
They're gonna be Who gives a shit?
Like, oh my god.
What it like, here's here's what's amazing.
It's like, how much time do you gotta have onyour fucking hands to be worrying about this

(01:15:42):
shit?
Like, why?
It's not time.
Fucking cares.
It's yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're you don't have a lot of
There you go, Jimmy.
They do need to hire Todd Dobson for marketing.
That would be genius.
He needs to be the new PGA Tour CEO.
Wow.
You just gave Todd a really high positionthere.

(01:16:03):
He's the CEO of the grass league.
Which, by the way, a little tidbit, just sowe're clear.
The CEO of the PGA Tour still reports to thepolicy board and the board.
So he's not in charge of anything.
Yeah.
Zero things.
That's a good clarification there.
Buttsy, what do you I feel like you got, like,something you really wanna say, but you're not

(01:16:26):
saying it.
No.
I don't.
What's about to have a child?
Come on.
Let's go.
I, I don't.
I just think this, this we might beparticipating in this grass league thing.
I don't know.
And who cares?
After last week's fiasco, it's like Matt andButtsy in, of course, they're gonna put you

(01:16:50):
in there.
Multiple people have contacted me since thelast episode, and I'm just gonna leave it at
that.
I mean, here's the biggest surprise would be ifI got into it.
I fully expect, Buttsy, for you to be a part ofthis.
Like What
if I'm what if I'm counting in your end?

(01:17:13):
Then it makes no sense.
I'm not I'm not playing in that.
You never know.
No.
Here's the thing.
I'm the kind of guy that I'm a team player.
I am there's no chance that I'm gonna go andplay in it if you're not playing in it because
first of all, you're a guy that just absolutelydeserves
to be a part of it.
Commentating it and you're playing.

(01:17:34):
I mean, we would have to have a longconversation beforehand, and I would need to
know who my teammate is and that they're thatmuch better than you.
Well, I
would not I would not
be rude.
Not just playing.
That's also personality-wise because that wouldbe fucking boring out there if you got stuck
with some random influencer.

(01:17:55):
And, you know, let's say you get stuck with FatPerez.
What the fuck are you gonna do then?
Actually, me and Fat are friends.
So oh, well, you know, I just don't I don'tappreciate anybody that cheats in golf and then
puts it up there.
Well, look,
I'll just say Christmas next week, man.
Like, you know, we might get a bombshell nextweek.
Who knows?
Who knew?
Nobody knows.

(01:18:16):
But he knows he's playing and commentating.
And as
as Trot Golfer is stating, Matt and Buttsy willbe playing.
I hope this is the announcement, by the way.
I hope that on this podcast, we get to announcethat Matt Cook and Buttsy are going to be
playing on a brand new franchise called theUtah Soakers.

(01:18:39):
Well, I can tell you, I know that that's nothappening.
I know for a fact.
Well,
the people are behind us not being the UtahState.

(01:19:02):
So fucking bad.
But there's just there's some exciting thingsto come.
And, you know, Christmas is next week that
Plus you're a terrible liar, by the way.
So
I'm not lying.
I haven't said anything.
It's fine.
Todd just messaged me.
He just said what happened.
I already know.
So,
Brent, once again, you guys need to enter as ateam.

(01:19:24):
I even have a team name for you guys ready forit.
We are ready for it, Brent.
Why don't you share the team name that youwould have for Buttsy and I, which, by the way,
you can go and buy a franchise.
Like, you gotta reach out to the grass league.
You gotta make the investment.
Hammer fuck.
Utah Sokers DBA.

(01:19:46):
The Hammer Fucks.
Beautiful.
Spell it.
I mean, he did.
If you want a description of what happened onthat putt that Brooks hit earlier, he hammer
fucked it.
He did.
I've been there.
I've been there in the cold to where I can'tfeel my hands, and you hammer fuck it 50 feet
past the
hole.
You know, he's played against Scottie and Rorywith, you know, as in at Shadow Creek, he was

(01:20:09):
there.
You know?
I could always
tell him that because he hit the buzz.
Well, I'm saying he's there.
Tell when you're getting a buzz because you getthe fucking acid reflux going.
He's tired going.
I'm telling you right.
And I still got that damn cough.
I hate that you told me that, your cough lastedand was lasting
for a long time.

(01:20:30):
Going away, bro.
It's been almost a while.
To buy an inhaler over the counter.
Yep.
I got one of those.
Ivermectin, boys.
Come
on.
Oh, shit.
Todd just threw in there.
The Harlem Hammer Fucks.
The
Harlem Hammer Fucks.
I'd be all about it.
Oh my god.
Out
there spinning golf balls like this on

(01:20:50):
our finger.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
That's
Okay.
So Brent's got another good one here, whichI've seen this video of Jim Nantz greeting fans
at Pebble Beach as they play the par-3 7thhole, and he does the commentary as they're on
the tee box as if he would for a CBS broadcast.

(01:21:11):
Can you recite that for us?
I don't think I can.
Okay.
I don't.
Like
life bogey.
It really is.
I mean, I don't think I could properly do it.
It was a huge moment.
You teed it up and I faded so fast away.
Like, I ran.
I do know of the clip because he even did,like, a commercial, like, read after one of the

(01:21:34):
guys hit his shot.
And they're just, like, the group of peoplethat they filmed this with were just absolutely
eating it up.
See, that's my point.
Right?
So why don't they do stuff like that?
We've got great personalities.
Why don't we go out during a practice round orsomething like that with a random group of
guys?
And so you know what?

(01:21:56):
At noon on Tuesday, we're gonna go out onwhatever hole and whatever course that week,
and we're gonna go out and we're gonna dosomething like that.
It's like, you know what?
You wanna bring the influencers out, bring theinfluencers out to do stuff like that.
Like we gotta bring one
of these guys to qualify for and play with him,and then you could call us the Paraguay poon

(01:22:16):
stuffers.
Poontang.
The Paraguay poon stuffers.
Alright.
What
the fuck?
Alright.
Ow.
Like, the Colombian bocas.
What the fuck?
Cut.
I haven't memorized Jim Nantz's stuff to beable to recite.
I gotta tell you, dude, when

(01:22:36):
somebody stands on the tee.
I love that you send these show notes, and theshows are getting better because
getting a lot of
we don't talk about the notes at all.
But he's got us in one corner and the shownotes in another, and he
I start googling shit.
I'm like, what the hell is the point of that?

(01:22:56):
We're not gonna talk about that.
Let's talk about the PNC Championship.
And let me just skip that, please.
No.
This is one of my favorite events of the year.
We get to see Charlie Woods.
Oh, Jesus.
And guess what?
By the way, you can't shit on this because thisis truck golfers' last
chance major.
Of getting after Bernhard Langer for cheating.

(01:23:17):
He's not he's not quitting.
He's not retiring.
Be out there in disguise.
Bernhard Langer is not retiring.
Gonna be in the PNC Championship.
They won it last year.
But he's not retiring from the
I think Trot has a ticket to Orlando this week,and he's gonna be wearing the shirts.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
How do you not go full throttle there?

(01:23:38):
But, no, he's
James has a good one.
The Arizona womb raiders.
Out of way, Jimmy.
Out of way, Jimmy.
Oh, no.
Brian Shane is oh, this is gonna be a battlebetween him and Trot in the YouTube chat here.

(01:23:58):
He says Bernhard is not cheating.
Oh, why would you say that?
We're gonna get that.
That that's
gonna fire up Trot.
Oh my god.
He just punched himself in the chin and threwhis beer in the trash.
He is ready.
I talked to a I talked to a high levelchampions tour player, and I asked him

(01:24:20):
specifically if Langer was retiring, and hesaid
No.
Nope.
He said no.
He said no.
He is not retiring.
No.
They're gonna fucking that'll be that guy's
funeral.
Keep playing.
Come on.
Because he's gonna keep winning.
No.
No.
Yeah.
They're not gonna stop him.
I mean, the guy only wins because he cheatsconstantly.

(01:24:41):
Now here's the thing.
They won last year by two.
Wins, though.
Over the Duvalls last year.
They won over Double D, Buttsy's favoritepeople.
And, certainly, if you haven't heard the storyon that, you gotta go back and research this
podcast because Buttsy is not a fan of DavidDuval for good reasons.
When he was

(01:25:02):
9 years old, he
David Duval is one of my favorite golfers ofall time.
So it's kind of this weird dynamic that wehave.
Just, I never met him.
He's a man.
So I just
loved his game.
He's a man.
Met him, and you had a terrible experience.
Right.
He doesn't like
fat kids.
That's what I thought.
Hates fat kids.
And that's
He hates kids, puppies, and old
Maybe it's something to do with him having togo to fat camp in the middle of his PGA Tour

(01:25:26):
career.
Yeah.
And how it ruined his life.
Fired.
I think he was one of the first users ofOzempic, like, 10 years before it came out.
I mean, David Duval was a hell of a golfer whenhe was thick.
As soon as he lost the weight, terrible golfer.
No.
That's not true.
It is true.
Oh, wow.
Look at that.
His head looked so fucking weird on his bodywhen he got slim.

(01:25:48):
It looks like one of those, like, when you makethree shots in NBA Jam and you get on fire.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah.
Like, little body, big fucking head.
He's on fire.
He had a big midget.
Oh, man.
Now this PNC Championship, we get to seeCharlie Woods.
What
do you guys expect?
We haven't seen Charlie in a hot minute.

(01:26:09):
Well, he lost his high school he lost his highschool championship by
two people.
Go anywhere.
You know
what I mean?
I wouldn't
Why do you know this, Brent?
Because there are plenty of junior golfers thatplay high school golf against him.
Yeah.
But how you know, dude?
He's on the other coast.
Doesn't matter.
They play junior golf all over the world, man.
Yeah.
It's rated.
It's it's out there.

(01:26:30):
Yeah.
But his high school team?
Yeah.
AJGA rankings?
I don't even
know what to say.
AJGA, yes.
But not his high school team.
Seeing the top 20 of AJGA
posted on it got posted on, like, Twitter orwhatever it was.
Of course, it did.
I'm just saying.
People are obsessed with Charlie Woods, which,by the way, I watch and I'm like, I like to see
the kid.
Well, I like to see the father-son dynamic moreso than, oh my god.

(01:26:52):
I'm watching Charlie Woods.
Exactly.
They're obsessed with Bronny too, and they justnutted themselves because he fucking went 26
points in a G League game.
But 30.
Drop 30.
See, look, you know.
So there you go.
Points proven.
Case in point.
Too much social media, man.
Oh, I know.
It's there.
No.
But think about it.
Like, Tiger's being a real human being eventhough in the boardroom, he's a complete

(01:27:15):
cocksucker.
But hey.
Wow.
You know?
Wow.
He's been in a lot of boardrooms.
Brent Grant is no longer eligible to play onthe PGA Tour, folks.
What did he say?
What did he say?
That means
I can play in the grass league.
I'm fucking happy about it.
Let's go.
So here's the other thing.
Greg Greggy Junior, Greg Norman's son, said, ifyou really want the PNC Championship to pop

(01:27:36):
off, you need to put me and my dad in thereagainst Tiger and Charlie.
Play us in the same group.
What do
you think will happen?
Will happen.
Of course, it's not gonna happen.
They can't stand
each other.
Would it be fireworks?
Greg Norman.
Yeah.
So it I don't even think it would be fireworks.
Oh, god.
No.
Tiger would shut down.
He wouldn't say anything, and he would just goout there, and Tiger and Charlie would beat

(01:27:59):
this living dog shit out of him.
Badly.
Badly.
My my poster of Charlie Woods' trot has nothingto do with my fandom.
Okay?
I think the I think the Dailys
I think the Dailys take this one.
The Dailys.
The big fella?
I think they take this one.
John too is, like, he he's, like, becoming areal stud.

(01:28:21):
Yeah.
But JD's got the knee issues, man.
Like, he's struggling nowadays.
You
don't even have to play.
The fighter's got the back of
the tower.
That's what I'm curious.
I'm curious to see Tiger, but I saw him in theTGL sim, and his swing was looking pretty damn
fluid.
Looks better than my goddamn swing.
That's for sure.
Make a way to use it.
To walk to another bay at the TGL, it's over.

(01:28:44):
Yeah.
If he's gotta move one step, it's a problem.
Oh, God.
And this was the other thing that I saw withthat video.
Do you guys like the tucked-in hoodie?
This is becoming a golf thing all of a sudden.
What did you just say?
How do you even do that?
How do
you do it?
Tiger was the first one, and then CollinMorikawa with LAGC.
They have, like, an LAGC hoodie, and it's,like, thin material, and he tucked it in too.

(01:29:09):
Tucking in a fucking hoodie.
It'd be like wearing a Santa costume.
What?
Definitely not like having cocks on your shirt.
That's for sure.
Give yourself an applause for that one.
That's fucking spot on.
You gotta keep it classy.
Come on, baby.
Cock fighting.
Devro Golf, baby.
Let's go.
Cocks.
Cocks.
Devro Devro Golf would never—I can't say thisfor certain—they would never make a hoodie that

(01:29:35):
you would wanna tuck in.
What the fuck does that even mean?
What kind of hoodie are we talking about?
Dude, I've never done shirt
on the hood on it.
Never tucked in a hoodie.
The hoodie bit, and this goes back.
Tiger has a long lineage of being poorlydressed.
I don't know if anybody knows this.
Have you ever watched him, like, in the early2000s when he would show up at parties with,

(01:29:57):
like, JNCOs with a gator belt on, tucked in?
Like, the guy looks ridiculous off the golfcourse.
He's never listened to a stylist in his life.
He looks fucking weird everywhere he goes.
Tucking in the hoodie makes sense because heprobably didn't realize that you're not

(01:30:17):
supposed to.
It's nothing like he's trying
to do.
Like is it some super baggy hoodie?
Like, what?
No.
It's a fucking hoodie.
But I it's
like a
thin material hoodie.
Oh, god.
It's probably
like so stupid.
It's bad.
Immediately makes the TGL irrelevant.
I'm sorry.
You start doing that.

(01:30:38):
I'm sorry.
You're done.
Any hope you had is gone.
You know, it's Tiger, so you have to respectit.
I don't agree with that.
What the fuck does that mean?
He puts his fucking boots on and pants on thesame way we do.
Fuck that guy.
He may not put them on the same way
as No.
But when he puts
them on, he probably has no more.

(01:30:59):
Well, he was.
Yeah.
Not anymore.
No.
Tiger's low-key a nerd.
I believe this, like, forever.
Yep.
He is a nerd.
He is a huge nerd.
That
I wasn't gonna share this story, but now thatyou guys are calling him a nerd, I gotta share
it.
Nerd.
So it was either a writer nerd, I think.
It was either a Ryder Cup or a Presidents Cup.
Instead of going and, like, partying with theteam, he had a limo drive him around with a

(01:31:23):
PlayStation in it, and he played video gamesthe entire time.
Which is sick.
I mean, I would do the same thing.
That's cool.
Nerd.
And I'm a nerd too.
Don't get me wrong.
Huge nerd.
Would never attempt
to tuck.
Wouldn't
Oh, I got the mats going right now.
Yeah.
You sure do.
You're welcome.
Oh, I would never

(01:31:43):
tuck a
hoodie in.
I what again, I'm just so confused.
Was it a short-sleeve hoodie?
Was it a long long
sleeve hoodie?
The photo of it.
It's just a
Please do because I'm okay.
It's
not good.
You know what?
Fuck it.
I'm just do I don't want anyone
to do this.
Enough.
It doesn't look that bad on him.
Tiger hoodie.
Because Tiger's built tall.
Built like a shit brick.

(01:32:04):
Like a goddamn backpack.
Listen.
No.
My god.
Stop it.
Tiger hoodie is a built man.
No.
He's not.
6 foot tall, about 185 pounds at most.
He's got no fucking legs, and he's got sort ofa chest, and he's got some arms.
But he has always had a perfect V taper hiswhole career.

(01:32:25):
Yeah.
He's got no legs.
Clothes look good on Tiger.
No legs.
Tiger's jacked.
You don't need legs.
Well, yeah.
You sorta do.
Well, Tiger kinda lost a leg if you guysrecall.
Yeah.
Okay.
LIV Golf.
You guys wanna talk about it?
Nope.
I gotta pee soon, but yes.

(01:32:47):
K.
LIV Golf.
They had their promotional event.
Good old Lee Chee-ho earns his LIV Golf status.
That's awesome.
For 2025 by winning this.
Now I'm very confused because I'll be the firstone to admit I have not been following their Q
School, so to speak.

(01:33:08):
It's like, last year, multiple people gotpicked from their promotional event.
This year, there was only one.
Mhmm.
So I'm very—is there another event?
Am I missing something here?
So now they have the International Series.
They take the winner from the InternationalSeries.
They take the Q School, and they can totallyarbitrarily decide how many spots they want

(01:33:32):
based on who they're bringing in.
They probably got a couple of guys
on the list too.
They had Fred Biondi from North Carolina.
Oh, great.
On there.
Yeah.
Who?
That's the only one I recognized.
Alright.
No idea who that
is.
That?
Yeah.
Fred Biondi.
He was UNC's, like, best player.
Oh, that's cool.
He's then you're in the know.
And so and then they probably got a couple ofguys coming out of college or amateur golf or

(01:33:54):
something like that.
Well, that's the other thing that Kevin Na dida little steal of a young Korean phenom.
20 years old.
His name is Yubin Yang.
I hope I pronounced that correctly.
You what you did it?
Yubin Yang.
Pronounced it?
Yeah.
Pronounced it.
Pronounced?

(01:34:15):
Pronounce.
Okay.
Pronounced.
Say it
say it again.
Pronunciations.
Pronunciations.
So we also have a which, by the way, I love Ilove these radical lefties because they just on

(01:34:36):
this LIV side, these guys are fuckingdelusional.
It's fucking great.
They're like, this is the biggest LIV Golfsigning in the history because now you have a
South Korean golfer, and this is gonna bring inSouth Korean LIV Golf.
And they're gonna play events in South Koreanow and all this and that.

(01:34:56):
And they're just, like, living up the fact thatTony now decided not to go.
So it's just
There's still less notoriety than they had twoseconds ago.
Yeah.
Nobody knows who
the fuck kid is other than if you're
95% of who these people are.
I mean, this is this is what I'm saying.
It's like
I mean, have you ever heard of Lee Chi, Poe?

(01:35:19):
No.
No.
No.
And and to be on oh, I got that.
Oh, I did test the new Ping driver today.
It's awesome.
Question for you.
Yeah.
Do you believe how many of the how many of thecurrent LIV staff, so the roster, how many of

(01:35:39):
them do you believe will be welcomed back tothe PGA Tour?
I think 30% of them.
30%.
Now how many players is that?
No idea.
Okay.
That's good talk.
So, like, 15% 15 guys?
Which, but see, here goes to my point that youwill be signed in no time because you got the

(01:36:00):
brand new shaft from KBS, and they told me thatthey were gonna send that to me once it came
out for the driver I never received it.
I got another one.
You can have it.
Mhmm.
That's a TX, though.
I don't think we need we're not we're lookingto
We're looking to downgrade our horsepower.
Poor extra stiff.

(01:36:21):
Could be good for Brent.
Although he doesn't struggle to drive the golfball, he just needs to learn
how to putt.
So I know how to putt now.
Do you know a guy named Will?
Will?
Will.
Maybe.
Alright.
So the other big news with LIV Golf is apotential Fox Sports TV deal is back in the

(01:36:42):
works.
Remember?
Oh, really?
Before they went to the CW, which the CWdropped them.
So they go, we're not taking your moneyanymore.
We're no longer going to have a deal.
That happened.
Okay.
So the CW is like, we're done.
So now LIV Golf is going back out and seekingnew TV deals, which means that LIV Golf is

(01:37:03):
gonna pay whatever TV station.
And so Fox Sports, they're back in negotiationswith them again.
They pay, they pay
to be on Fox Sports.
They paid to be on the CW.
Well, that's usually the
opposite of how
that goes.
Yeah.
Usually, a network pays to put you on.

(01:37:25):
That
is correct.
Now well, Finau is that's over.
Right?
Yeah.
That never happened.
Well, we said it was happening.
No.
We never said it was happening.
We said that he was in negotiations.
Okay.
That's true.
Which means that angry.
Was in negotiations.
So wait.
So Fox Sports, which I believe Fox is owned byDisney.
Is that right?

(01:37:46):
No.
That's ABC.
How many people are watching right now?
485,000.
3
people.
Seriously?
No.
I was like, wow.
Yeah.
We're getting mad at this.
Let's do a giveaway for them.
My god.
Yes.
I close.

(01:38:07):
Thanks, guys.
Fuck.
I guess we're lost touch.
But so hold on.
So they're gonna get on Fox Sports and do whatexactly?
Shit.
That's
awesome.
They're gonna show their stuff out there on FoxSports.
I hope by the first of the year, we've had somewild stuff go down that we could talk about on
the pod.

(01:38:28):
Yeah.
I hope I hope that all of the positive thingsfinancially and in this country can improve to
where we all are much happier and much moresafe
and less worried about drones.
Get it, Brent.
You got this.
Great job.
Great job, Brent.

(01:39:30):
Goodbye, everybody.
Bye.
Town.
Is that it?

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