Watch Party: TGL’s First Match LIVE - Bay Club vs. NY Golf Club

Get 45% off the Magic Mind bundle with our link: https://www.magicmind.com/HOOKGOLFJAN Matt Cook and Buttsy kick off the episode with a new partnership announcement with Devereux Golf. They introduce Bert Brunner, who discusses the evolution of Devereux Golf and its impact on golf streetwear culture. The conversation covers the TGL match, sponsorships, and TGL's tech influence. Bert also highlights Devereux's custom club work. They touch on playing surfaces, televised golf, and monetization strategies. There's a discussion on Hideki Matsuyama's performance and professional golf consistency, peppered with humorous anecdotes. The episode concludes with insights into brand collaborations, PGA Tour visibility, and sports betting in golf.

Episode Transcript

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We love everybody.
We really love?
We really love.
Holy shit.
I know.
It's unbelievable.
Never expected to see us like this.
Can you
jack up my headphones a little bit?

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Here we go.
Just getting abs oh, there we go.
Love that for me.
Oh, yeah.
TGL is happening.
This is the TGL watch party with pole hook golfAnd we're here at Devro golf.

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I'm your host, Matt Cook.
We got Botsey with us.
We got Bert.
I mean, my goodness gracious.
We got it going on here tonight.
Who chime in in the comments, folks, feel freeto get on YouTube, get on 1,000,000.co.
Get on to rumble.
Now we're on rumble now or X, for streamingpurposes.

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But, we got the New York golf club versus thebay club tonight.
And, looks like it has not started as of yet.
It says that it's live.
Hopefully we get a, a good feed in connectionhere with the TGL.
But man, as we get started here, let's, let'sstart off a little announcement that we have

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for the new year.
Yep.
Pull hook golf and Devro golf.
We, got a nice little partnership going now.
And finally, I mean, good grief.
Look, I hate to say it, but, 3 people tonightthroughout have been like, man, you are
absolutely dialed.
I didn't Jordan's got the crickets going.

(01:59):
What are you doing with the crickets?
Jordan, our audio engineer.
He forgot his headphones.
You can't hear Oh, there's the applause.
Holy shit.
Jordan took you a second.
Good to have you in here.
Good to have everybody in here.
Hopefully we could get, this whole thing goingwith, the TGL so that we can start this watch

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party.
We're just trying to get this loaded up on ourend.
So they have real grass.
They have real grass.
Real grass.
So that is part of oh, no.
Did I lose my iPad?
You know, I'm no good without an iPad.
Where did that thing go?
It's like your
I do wonder.
It's like my binky for the show.
It's like my protector.
Whenever I miss out on anything

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over there?
You got all this shit set up.
I got all this stuff set up here at Dev row,but we're here at the Dev row offices in Tempe,
Arizona.
This place is awesome.
Obviously you got the big skull behind us.
Take us through while we're, getting the TGLloaded up here as to a little bit of
background.
Why don't you introduce yourself to theaudience?

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Thank you guys for having me on.
I appreciate it.
And looking forward to partnering with youguys.
Fuck yeah.
For those who don't know, I'm Burp Runner, Istarted DevRel.
Shit, man.
11 years ago.
So Oh, shit.
Been on the gas bed.
2013.
No.
It's coming up on 12
years.
Well, yeah.
That's a long time, dude.
Yeah.
That's a long time.

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Yeah.
Been been on the grind in the golf market forthat long.
Dude, and golf has seen such a boom over thelast 4 years, I would say.
Yeah.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
That's kinda where you see, like, the evolutionof a brand.
We used to be just kind of a plain old brandselling in the whole space, but since, like,
pre COVID, we switched to be more, like,personality, driven and get more in that social

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media golf space.
Just creating apparel, just creating somethingthat was inclusive for everybody, unique styles
and looks for the golf course, and showcasing,you know, the fun aspect of golf, not, you
know, the dread and boring shape.
Yeah.
Most country clubs.
So Yeah.
As you can see
Jordan, they're saying that, the other 2 micsare low right now.

(04:07):
So only mine is really working apparently.
Jesus Christ.
You can read that.
Yeah.
Wow.
You can see that?
I can see that.
I got great eyes, guys.
Great eyes.
Eagle bus if this is why I'm 4 foot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See anything.
I just need to be a little closer.
Yeah.
I don't think they're I can barely hear them inmy headphones.

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Turn this mic in.
Is the mic on?
There we go.
Turn
into a ring pop.
There it is.
Oh.
Oh my gosh.
They were muted.
I wanna hit you.
They were muted.
Apologies, guys.
We are live.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah.
Because I remember the the early days.
Right?
You guys had, like, basic prints, Paula.
Holy cow.
We finally got the TGL going.

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And, can you hear us?
Oh, Van Pelt.
1?
Can you hear us?
I can hear you now.
Yeah.
You guys did.
Ignored you.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's what I was trying to figure out.
I was completely ignoring anything that youwere saying at the moment.
Okay.
Should I go now?
Or
Yeah.
You're fine.
Okay.
No.
Yeah.
You were in retail though.
Right?
You guys were in golf shops, golf polos, basicshit.
Like
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
Most of that country You
see that sadly.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
But we're actually it's it's the we're gettingback into the wholesale space, but, you know,
no changes to what we're doing.
So it will be an interesting 2025 for us.
Fuck, yeah.
Dude, this was the first time that I was, like,when all of a sudden, Butsy started showing up
with your stuff.
Because I had seen your stuff around a littlebit in some of the golf shops out here, but I

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never really knew about you guys.
And all of a sudden, he's rocking them, like,what's the deal with these DevRel guys?
I was like, some of the shit that you'rewearing to the show is dope as hell.
And that's how the whole conversation reallystarted.
All of a
sudden, he's like, what?
You don't know about DevRel?
And I'm like, no.
And then all of a sudden, saw the Southwestcollection come out.
Oh, yeah.
And holy shit.
I mean, talk about

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just scorpions.
I know.
You got scorpions.
Scorpions.
I got the cardigan on right now.
Gorgeous cardigan.
Scorpion cardigan.
What do you
call that color?
That has it.
That's well, it's oatmeal, if you will.
Oh, yeah.
My favorite color.
I will.
If you ask any of my family, they're like, Mattloves the color oatmeal.
Yeah.
Loves it.
Is that like a
It's a thing.
Thing since you were a kid?

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Or It it it has been.
Yeah.
Okay.
Been been a long time.
You like the you like the food?
I do.
Cool.
Alright.
Well, we'll fix that.
Not really anymore.
Maybe when I was younger, but, cool.
Not anymore.
Oh, we got Ricky Fowler walking out.
Hopefully, folks, you could get, ESPN up andstart watching the TGL with us as well.
We can't show it here live because of obviouslyTV copyright restrictions, all that BS.

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But, Ricky Fowler's walking out right now.
Look at, look at slick, Rick.
Wow.
He's like right on the edge of trailer park andlike David Sims.
Yeah.
What are up with this, with the eyeglasses?
There's a whole vibe
going on to that.
You think he's going to take off the eyeglassestonight or those his thing?
I hope not.
Man.
Oh, he's nervous.

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So, yeah.
Matthew Fitzpatrick.
Don't call him Matthew.
Call him Matt.
Went through a name change.
He everything used to be Matthew Fitzpatrick.
Then he got the braces off, and he's like, callme Matt, which I get it.
He kinda looks like Elon Musk a
little bit.
Yeah.
He's got a little a little Maybe a little biton the spectrum.

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A little well, I'd do it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Not wrong.
Oh, there's LT Grey.
There he is.
Yeah.
Wrong.
Right.
Center.
He's stalking those guys from the stands.
That's great.
Here comes Xander.
Xander might be now Xander's coming out 3rd.
Do you think this is like an NBA team to where,like, your best player comes out last?

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I'm not sure how they're trying to do thisdeal.
This is like a straight prototype dressrehearsal.
I'm sure they did that, but I don't know whatto think about this deal, and we're all gonna
experience it, for the first time together.
I do like the fact that they're wearing spikes.
Like, Xander's Xander's wearing full on spikes,which I guess they are hitting from real grass
surfaces outside of the turf area.

(07:59):
Yeah.
So, just to go over a little bit of the formatfor everybody.
And I finally got the internet on here with mynotes.
Now I was going through a bit of an anxietypanic attack.
This is like my, my little baby for the show.
Like, this is like from 1995, this iPad.
But the only thing it can do is notes Yeah.
Which is fantastic.

(08:19):
Wow.
Yeah.
So here's the thing.
The format for the TGL, just to get everybodyabsolutely hyped here comes Shane Lowry out of
the tunnel.
I was gonna research this too.
I have no idea.
So this is
So here's the thing.
There is so this is match play.
There's 2 sessions.
Okay?
K.
The first session is 9 holes.
I know.
No.
Nothing about this.
Oh, everybody's gonna be learning tonight.

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This is fantastic.
So first session is 9 holes, which are triples.
Okay.
So they set their lineups in advance, theirrotations.
And I'll cover that in a second, but this isalternate shot for the first nine holes.
Each hole is worth a point.
Okay.
There's your boyfriend.
Wyndham Clark.
You said
he is.
Poster over your bed or what?

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I do.
He loves Wyndham a like a lot.
I think I got New York in this already.
So
Me too, by the way.
I got New York in this.
Oh, shit.
The, the last 6 holes, which is the 2nd sessionof this.
So they only play 15 holes.
Unlike real golf, you got 6 holes that aresingles.
This is head to head matchups, but they rotatewho plays what hole.

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So it's not like everybody's playing the sameholes, which is a whole nother thing that we'll
get into.
But each hole one is one point except when theydrop the golden hammer.
Okay.
There is a golden hammer that they can say thishole is worth 2 points.
Oh, not like that.
Where tiger just takes his pants off and walks.

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He just walks out.
Here's the hammer.
Bolted hammer.
That's the show.
Sorry.
This may
be the coolest part that they were justshowing, with the virtual green.
So this virtual green is basically like 40yards in length.
Okay.
So they're going to hit their real shots fromthe tee, which that teeing surface does have a

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grass.
They have the closer one for wedge shots.
They've got a bunker up there for a fairwaybunker.
They got rough in case your ball is in therough that you gotta actually hit it out of the
rough.
And then once you get within 40 yards,everything is in real life.
So that green, depending on what hole they'replaying completely undulates.

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So there's all these pistons underneath there.
And they got that dialed in where it knowsexactly where they need to put their golf.
You're actually gonna see a laser come downfrom the ceiling to point to where they have to
put their ball.
Okay.
It's pretty wild.
I mean and that's the whole thing.
How well is this gonna show up on TV?
And I think it's going to show up pretty damnwell.
Interesting.

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Apparently in person, these guys like max,Homer said, he was like, you know, I thought it
might be a little bit gimmicky, might be alittle bit, like it all kind of depended on if
it was going to be like the technology wasgoing to be good or not and everything.
He's like, I can tell you in person, he's like,this thing is, has a wow factor to it.

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And on TV, I mean, we got ESPN doing thebroadcast, which I'm glad we got 805 of you,
through the different streaming channels rightnow watching us, which is awesome.
As your companion show, I like to call this theTGL companion show.
I'm
trying to fucking squint here.
3 non alternate.
What's that?
Like, what's he saying?

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3 man alternate.
Okay.
Traders.
He's saying that.
So
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
This is pretty good stuff, guys.
I mean, look at that green.
And what's the best part about that, see thoseundulations to the green?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Those all change based on what hole they'repulling.
What?
Yeah.
That's gonna be wild.
That's really fucking cool.
I'm I'm telling you, this is gonna be legit.

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I hope they don't do this throughout the entirething where No.
I'm making them fucking dizzy.
Panning and this and that.
The other cool thing, like other sports,there's a shot clock.
So we don't have a Kevin Nash situation Oh.
Where he's gonna be over the golf ball for anhour.
Okay?
It's 40 seconds.
Otherwise, they get a one shot penalty.
There is a fucking referee, which is awesome.

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And it is this former NBA referee.
Okay.
So they didn't go after like a golf referee.
They're like, Hey, we're switching up thisshit.
We need a shot clock guy.
We need you to be able to make sure that, youknow, if something gets out of whack, timeouts,
if there's too many timeouts, there's all thistype of stuff that's going on.
Or we find golf.

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Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tower plays.
Tower plays.
This is this is the mother ship that isbroadcasting this bad boy.
We're really trying to Monday Night Football,this this golf thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what we're
doing here.
Listen.
This could be a big hit or a big mess.
Can you gamble on this?
You can.
There's gambling all over the place.

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Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
So you got a lot, lot of stuff here, which bythe way, the, odds for tonight.
New York golf club is a minus 125 favorite.
We got the Bay Club at plus 100.
So, basically, get your money back because theyhave no idea who's gonna be good in this and
who's not.
And you're taking New York.

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You said.
Yeah.
No.
No.
Now I'm switching the bed.
I'm switching the Oh, no.
Taking the plus 100.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
You're going bankrupt.
No idea what's gonna happen.
No.
I don't even know what I'm
looking at.
Yeah.
I I really wanna see a hole here.
Yeah.
The plank.
So this you're hitting 14 feet up into this Imean, look at this.
This is probably the coolest part of this isthat they get to design whatever golf holes

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they want.
And wait till you get to the 2nd hole becausethe 2nd hole is wild.
I'm trying to imagine somebody that's notwatching this right now, and I feel like this
is still pretty fucking entertaining.
Yeah.
Like, yeah.
You kinda got a good idea, though?
The plank, 14 feet?
I I'm not watching it.
Yeah.
No.
I'm saying without Anyways I'm loving it.
Like, if you're blind listening.

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Anyways.
Yeah.
One moment there.
I apologize.
Get some more oatmeal attire right over here.
Did you see this?
Dude, I love
That's a master's 2025
Are those bird dogs?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They are.
Oh, dear lord.
We're talking about a vest that's hanging inthe hoods.
That is right.
And that's one of the
And I'm drooling over here.

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One of the worst things about coming in here.
So, we're in the
There's a referee?
You guys are There he is.
This is not a retail location.
Right?
Yeah.
It's just a it's just warehouse shop.
Yes.
You can come in and buy.
You hang out.
Yeah.
Like you, you don't buy.
We give you.
Don't say no.
We we steal.
No.
You have We steal.
Buy.
I hear you.
We steal.
We take.
We

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we take stuff for sure.
We definitely steal stuff.
But that's the the thing about coming in here.
I didn't come in with this hat.
I'm just kidding.
I didn't.
So just for the people out there watching, youcome in here and, yeah, you see what they have
on the website.
Oh, deal work.
Ship it.
We're You get to see stuff that's coming out 3months from now.
Like, we're looking at this master's drop.
Pretty cool.
We're about to have our first tee show of theTGL.
This is Shane Lowry.

(15:09):
377 yards.
He's got no idea where to hit this thing.
If he misses the screen?
That's what I'm hoping for.
Over or under if you miss the screen.
Not gonna happen.
That is a beauty.
Shut up.
Sit down.
Right down
the middle.
Down.
Down.
Alright.
Alright.
So we're Wow.
Oh, they're they're absolutely lit.
It's
a good deal.
They just did a shot.

(15:30):
Yeah.
Tiger's like, thank god it worked.
Now the other the other the other over under ishow many times are we going to see a technical
glitch?
Because this is all high end tech being usedfor the first time.
I gotta think they've tested the shit out ofthis.
Slick Rick decides to go fairway wood with hiseyeglasses, and he just rapes that thing.

(15:52):
Look at that.
Can we, rape his butt right now?
Yeah.
Let's rate his look on a scale of 1 to 10.
What are you thinking?
What are you calling it?
I I'm confused.
So, like, a a 1 and 1.5.
I'm pretty confused.
What's happening?
What's happening?
In front of me.
He's got he's got a straight mullet going onthat's popping out the back of his hat.

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He's got these thick eyeglasses.
I love the guy, bud.
And the poo butt.
Right?
The type poo attire.
No.
Not it.
No.
No.
That is not it.
And a fairway wood to start?
Yeah.
Well, here we go.
Now this is the 2nd shot.
So this is alternate shot.
So now Matt Fitzpatrick is up, which by theway, the rotation for New York golf club is

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Ricky Fowler, Matt Fitzpatrick, and then XanderShoffley will hit the next shot.
There's a gray area here for me, though.
Like, it's still you're still hitting into acomputer.
What a good
golf Oh, can't can't do that.
Little pole hook.
The fuck out of it.
Oh, Matt Fitzpatrick with the pole hook.
Okay.
You did say he was nervous.
Oh, yes.
You were like, look at him.
He was terrified.
I look at him.

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Oh, what a Oh, no.
Look
at him.
Oh, shit.
That's great.
Now we've got Wyndham Clark in the second shotfor the Bay Club.
Yes, man.
Big advantage here.
What does he have sticking out of his backpocket?
That's what I wanna know.
Is that a putter cover?
What is that?
It's something, and he could be cheating here.

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He could know that the technology cannot readthe proper spin if his back pocket has
dude, was that just
to give it?
Was that,
oh yeah, no, that's real grass.
Real grass.
Oh, he absolutely stuck it to like 10 feet.
I'm actually kind of blown away.
Oh my God.
This is pretty fucking cool.
Okay.
Little insider information for everybody thatis tuning in on the stream.

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First of all, you will not hear this.
I was expecting to hear it at the century lastweek when Wyndham Clark was playing pretty
well.
And they're like, wow, he's not hitting thisbig, huge cut anymore.
He's hitting this tiny little tight fade andall of a sudden smiley Kaufman jumps in and is
like, yeah, he's been working on his gamereally hard this off season, no comment

(17:59):
whatsoever.
So you're about to hear for the, for the secondtime because I dropped this on the podcast
previously.
He's been working with Butch Harmon.
Okay.
So Wyndham's been going up, seeing Butch, andoh my gosh.
This moved pretty quick.
They're not
that's what I'm saying.
They're not fucking around.
Like, they're
just Yeah.
Okay.
Xander all of a sudden hit a little chip, andhe did not hit a good one.
And we, I don't see a caddy.

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No caddies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a tough thing.
This is this is what I was curious about.
How fast is this gonna go?
Like, this is way quicker than, PGA Tour golf.
Dude, this is dope.
I'm telling you right now.
This is a birdie for Obit oh, Oburg.
100%.
9 feet to win the hole to go one point.

(18:43):
So is it 1 they're going, like, alternate shot?
Yeah.
It's all alternate for the first 9 holes.
Oh my god.
1st birdie of the TGL.
Ludwig.
Oh,
berserk.
Wow.
Holy cow.
Why you got the crickets coming?
Hitting that cricket button.
The poor crickets are gonna be busy tonight.
Crickets here tonight.

(19:03):
Yeah.
No.
That one was, but you hit the crickets byaccident.
Combo there.
Yep.
Dude, I'm digging this TGL so far.
I mean, I'm cut.
Wow.
Was that a birdie as well?
No, that was pretty fun.
That was the birdie.
Okay.
Wow.
Great stuff there.
Now they do have timeouts.
So if all of a sudden you're just gettingabsolutely railroaded out there, You do have 4

(19:28):
timeouts, which 2 can be used in the 1stsession.
2 can be used in the second.
They're 2 minute timeouts.
What's your take on Sunday red?
Oh.
Oh, I hear they're in a lawsuit with Puma rightnow
because of
the logo look alike.
Yeah.
Kinda side with Puma there.
Dude, everyone loves Tiger, of course.
That is not the best attempt at Tiger apparel.

(19:51):
Yeah.
It it it looks like they took everything thatthey were doing at Nike and just kinda slapped
a
Yeah.
It's all white label.
It's just yeah.
They're just putting logos on it.
Yeah.
The logo's cool, though.
So I'm more interested in the lawsuit than justapparel.
You think it's close enough to warrant alawsuit?
Yeah.
Given how big Puma is.
Yeah.
Not just in golf, but

(20:12):
Question.
Will Devro Golf ever have cashmere?
Oh.
Has that been discussed?
Oh, no.
You
wanna do a $1,000 hoodie?
$1,000 movie.
You pay the duties on it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let let's do that.
Oh, fuck.
I would love that some cashmere.
Are you kidding me?
God.
Now, hole number 2, this is pick your plunder.

(20:32):
Okay?
And this is 590 yard par 5.
You got 3 options here.
Now look at this.
Shit.
Three different fairways.
Who's just gonna say fucking and go down themiddle?
Who do
you think?
So I didn't realize that they have all thesefucking crazy digital golf courses like this.
Isn't this dope?
I had no idea.
I thought it'd be like they're gonna play BayHill or something like that.
This way.
Yeah.

(20:52):
This is pretty neat.
Alright.
Alright.
Wyndham's up first
because he is the 2nd player in the rotation.
Tee's off first on the second hole.
Alright.
So does
he go down the middle?
Oh,
I I think Wyndham's got that nutsack.
That's just like He's got that ego.
If a guy flat, like, shanks 1, or or do do theyhave, like, something set
up for to the right.

(21:13):
Gonna show a shank.
It'll at least show the ball fly up.
You know what I mean?
I think that's why you get a time out.
Yeah.
It's so he's going to the right.
He's not going down the middle.
Oh.
Uh-oh.
This could be a big error, folks.
Oh, shit.
He's in the rough.
You know that?
Is it gonna get to the sand?
I thought that would bounce a little harderthan that.
That's it's sandy.
It's a sandy waste area.

(21:34):
Yeah.
Wyndham's not happy with it.
Alright.
Well, we're gonna move on to diet Coke here.
Well, shout out Kwik Trip.
Yeah.
Why don't you a quick
shot.
It's gold in it.
Yeah.
Just to, you know
But see, why don't you give, a a little magicmind?
Shit, dude.
So magic mind.
And be able to drive home after this?

(21:54):
Absolutely.
I tell you what, it's locks in your focus, andI've been taking them the past couple days.
There you go.
There we go.
Absolutely.
So it's green.
Around.
It's green.
Got a bunch of nootropics in it.
Some, lion's mane in there.
And you might have seen this.
Joe Rogan was doing this for a long time, and Igotta tell you, man.

(22:15):
It has locked me in the past couple days.
Twelve magical ingredients.
Twelve magical ingredients for magic mind.
It's absolutely incredible.
Wonder how it's gonna mix in my mouth withYeah.
Wait till
you try it.
30 milligram nicotine.
Got a little
that Coke.
Yeah.
Just yeah.
Just fucking get
it going.
Cheers it, boys.
And cheers it.
There you go.
Smells wonderful.

(22:35):
Oh, it's pretty good.
Oh, I'll have one.
Screw it.
I had one this morning.
They claim not to do 2 in a day, but fuck it.
We're getting wild.
Woah.
Cheers, boys.
Cheers.
Good shit.
Here we go.
Alright.
Who do we got here?
Oberg?
Mhmm.
Aberg?
Is it Aberg?
It's Kasty.
Aberg.
Oberg.
Oberg.
Oberg.
So it's rough.
Blood big Oberg.
Yeah.
He's heading out of the rough, bro.

(22:56):
This is so cool.
Yeah.
They have 3 Yeah.
3 platforms.
He's laying up.
Laying up.
Oh, he's short in the oh, it's in the bunker.
Into the sand.
Oh, no.
Are we gonna see a team make, like, a turn?
Oh, no.
That could be really interesting.
Nope.
Yeah.
The hammer.
The magic mind took away from the, shot fromNew York.

(23:19):
Where where they hit their tee shot at?
I have
no idea.
Yeah.
We did not say.
That was Matt pit Fitzpatrick who hit the teeshot for New York golf club.
I got Pete again.
Oh, here we go.
Xander Schauffele is hitting the second shothere, and he says that he is, oh, he's going
for it.
Oh, he's got the fairway metal out 274 to thehole.

(23:39):
Xander softly.
Let's see what he's got here.
Does he have a better year this year than last?
Yes.
Yeah.
I think it builds
a lot of confidence.
I like this.
Yeah.
He grew.
Oh, that's out to the right.
That is out to the right.
I haven't seen the ball flight yet.
Oh, it's drawing in.
It's going right at the hole.
Oh, it's in the front bunker, which this isawesome because we're actually going to see a

(24:04):
real bunker shot by the grain for thisparticular hole.
So that'll be pretty sick, man.
Zander Zander was hyped watching that one inthere.
Holy cow.
Come on now.
Nope.
Here's Shane Lowry hitting the 4th shot.

(24:25):
So New York golf clubs only hit 2 shots so far.
This is the 4th shot for the bay club.
Full rip there.
Going Good.
Going right at it.
Oh.
Right at it.
Oh, to about 2 feet.
Maybe 3.
Maybe that's a 3 footer.
Wow.

(24:46):
So they're gonna save par there for the BayClub.
So now New York golf club, 3rd shot here.
They gotta get up and down to win the hole andto gain a point back.
So it will be one one.
So this takes over the PGA Tour in, like, 2weeks.
Right?
Dude, right?
I mean, that's pretty cool.
It's cool.
Is it indoor football though?

(25:08):
That's a
good question.
That's a good question.
Oh, it's arena football of golf.
Woah.
What the hell happened to Ricky?
Woah.
Ricky just turned into the Dan man.
Did we get our glitch?
Holy shit.
There's a glitch right there.
I just they need to have a mic on.
Oh, no.
Ricky just flubbed it out of the bunker.
Can you imagine Tiger over there watching theface of some bitch?

(25:28):
He should've never worn his eyeglasses.
Ricky's off his game.
Doesn't look right.
He looks fucking weird tonight.
He kinda looks like somebody who is out of achemistry class who lives in a trailer park.
I don't it's just I don't know.
It just doesn't look right.
The fluffy hair was cool with the mullet onhim.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know if

(25:49):
I love it.
It's the glasses.
It's It is the glasses.
It's throwing
the whole look off.
Yeah.
What are we doing?
They make contacts.
Right?
Yeah.
He doesn't
Those 3 are, like, the
same height.
Ricky.
We were pumped for Ricky coming into this.
We're like, this is Ricky's big moment back inthe spotlight.
How many dress rehearsals do you think theydid?
Like

(26:09):
None.
Come on.
No.
I'm kidding.
Yeah.
They fucking
They've they've played some mock matches andstuff like that.
Oh, Matt Fitzpatrick.
He still
got the nerves going.
And guess what, folks?
That is a half of a hole that is 0 points.
Elon Fiske.
0 points.
Actually, do they get 0.5?

(26:29):
No.
Would you guys ever do a shoe?
No.
No way, man.
Shoe is way too complicated.
Yeah.
The molds alone of, like, the base of a shoe isupwards of, like, 20, 30000.
It's just
For for what?
That's a mold.
That's a build of mold, then you gotta dotesting after that.
So it's
I mean, you gotta stock all the sizes.
Very hard for shoes.
Yeah.

(26:50):
Look at this corny shit.
Look.
Xander the great in a cartoon.
Who's that guy?
Walter Hagen.
It's Hagelblop.
Yeah.
There's Tiger Woods.
This is the great thing about ESPN, though.
You're gonna get a bunch of in betweenentertainment that goes on.
They could at least got a picture of them offthe Zannys.
What do they fucking just it's goddamn.

(27:10):
The question is, is this what the PG tour needsin terms of a broadcast to make it more
interesting on an ongoing basis instead of allthat dead space that goes on on it, like, a
normal tour event?
We talk about that a lot.
That that has to change at some point.
You know?
I don't know that Liv has done a better job ofit.
Have you watched Liv Tour at all?
No.
I have not watched that.

(27:31):
Actually got on
your phone and gone through a broadcast orwhatever?
No.
It's it's cool because you don't just see theleading group.
Like, you see shots from everybody all day,but, it's so fast, dude.
It's, like, nonstop.
What's going on here?
Xander's doing some talking.
We we don't have the sound on on the TV.
We don't want that to come through.
So we don't have it on.

(27:52):
So Xander's probably getting interviewed, Ibet.
What brand is that?
That is
Since day.
Yeah.
What?
Wow.
I'm only good for one thing.
So you know it's a Korean brand.
Okay.
So he's rocking with South Korea tonight.
Okay.
Oh, the Koreans.
Not North Korea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're not making What

(28:12):
about the win at all costs?
What is that one called wack?
No idea.
Yeah.
Win at all costs.
Yeah.
That shit's expensive.
Yeah.
You see
how much that stuff is?
Look.
Kevin Nott
is wearing.
Right?
Right now.
I don't know if he
still wears it.
Kevin Naugh.
It's funky.
SH Kim was wearing it.
God, he fucking swings it good.
Ludwig is just absolutely pure.
But he yanked the piss out of this organ.

(28:33):
That's very striking.
3.
Part 3.
He goes for the center of the grain.
Safe play.
How I mean, this has gotta be super accurate.
Right?
Like how it's picking up spin and everything.
Like, what software do we know?
Yeah.
So this is full swing software.
This custom made just for the TGL.
We also have Doppler radar.
And if you notice on the tech side, they'vegot, like, 4 basically, 4 trackmans.

(28:55):
And then they've got, also the, oh, what am Ithinking of?
The camera.
What's that called?
Top tracer technology in there as well.
All combined.
Yep.
So you are getting it absolutely what the shotis happening.
And how many teams are there?
There's a bunch.
Well, sorry.
No.
I think there is

(29:16):
6 6
teams in total for the 1st year.
He doesn't oh, he does not like it.
Okay.
I wanna watch the green move.
So Trot golfer wants to know, one of ouraudience members here, does anybody at, Devro
play golf?
And if so, what do they shoot?
No one plays golf.

(29:36):
No.
No.
No.
We get yes.
The guys play golf at the office.
Yeah.
There's a few sticks in the office.
We got a few sticks, and a couple of guys thathave started in the last, like, 4 years.
So that's kind of been an exciting journey.
Yeah.
For sure.
Hired an intern and then never played golf, andnow they're obsessed, of course.
Right?
Well, you
get hung
up there.
That's their job.
They get to go play now, so that's fun.

(29:57):
But, yeah, we got people to play golf.
And you you have, like, your especially in thesummertime, I remember.
I mean, you guys are out on Fridays, like,almost every Friday playing.
Right?
Like, you do a little 9 and dine type deal.
Yeah.
We do a lot of, like, meetups and yeah.
We'll do maybe more than nines.
Yeah.
Cool.
Here's Shane Lowry from 53 feet.
Look at that.
Look at all the undulations there.

(30:18):
He's gotta go over basically a plateau up top.
So he's going up, across, and then back downagain.
So how many holes have we played here?
I like that they're putting the camera anglesto where you can actually see the slopes a bit.
Oh, wow.
Oh, this is like fun town mini golf action.
I feel like that's not bad.
That was pretty good from 53 feet with all thatundulation on the green.

(30:40):
This is interesting.
Goodness.
Look how far away he is, actually.
He's got, like, a 20 footer coming back.
This is what I heard is a little funky.
It's just this little bunker.
But same sand they use at Augusta National.
They transported it?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That white sand.
Ricky.
Oh, that's not good either.
I mean, is that reacting like No.

(31:03):
The green the green
That's twice.
Ricky's had a bad deal.
He's had to play out of the bunker twice sofar.
Yeah.
And he's just looked bad doing it.
This could be the 1st hole that is one with apar.
How good is Matt's announcer voice?
It's very good.
Isn't it fucking amazing?
You're doing great with that.
Come.
I just I'd I'd try to bring bring what I haveto the table.

(31:25):
You know?
I don't have much, but the voice I do have.
You do have that.
Are you talking that outside of the pod?
He frees himself in the mirror in
the morning.
That's what god.
No.
You look great.
You know what's funny about that?
I I got a buddy.
I I started drinking, on one of the trips.
I haven't seen a buddy in a while.

(31:46):
And I was I forget where we were, but all of asudden, the podcast voice started coming out as
more drinks started going down.
And he's like, when did we start the podcasttonight?
I'm like, oh,
I'm stuck.
My bad.
My bad.
Oh, man.
Here's Wyndham.
Let's see if Wyndham can, make a pot.
What is that in his back pocket?

(32:08):
Looks just like a yellow towel.
It's a towel, I think.
It's a hammer.
It's the hammer.
Oh, it's the golden hammer.
It's the golden hammer.
Apparently, you could throw that out at anytime, and the hole becomes worth
Tiger's dong right up the top.
Wow.
Wow.
Sorry.
I thought I hit something there by accident,but, no, we're we're
So we explained the hammer again?
The hammer turns it into 2 points instead of 1.

(32:30):
So he's doubling.
He's doubling it up.
He's he's pressing.
I didn't know you could do that at any point inthe hole.
I thought you had to, like, say it in thebeginning.
But now he dropped the hammer.
K.
Here we go.
Oh, god.
Woah.
Woah.
Woah.
Hello.
Trying to blow that up.
Wyndham Clark to win the whole It's a cockpit.
Hammer.

(32:51):
Wow.
Holy shit.
Wyndham Clark.
Oh, Tiger's giddy about it.
He loves the hammer.
Dude, you you called it.
You called it.
Oh, yeah.
It's like it's like him seeing a Perkinswaitress.
Yeah.
That's great.
What a fuck.
Holy shit.
Windham Clark.
This is pretty interesting.
I'm not gonna lie.

(33:12):
Wow.
Oh, fuck.
Elon Fitzpatrick hates it.
Holy cow.
Scary.
That's very good.
No.
I did.
Yes.
It's a thing now.
Yeah.
It's absolutely a thing.
This is incredible.
That was set in stone, by the way, the par 3.
That was a 188 yards.
Now they've got the boomerang.
Okay?

(33:32):
This is a par 5, 582.
We got a little commercial break.
Why don't we Okay.
Hunt back to a little bit, you've been askingsome great questions about DevRel.
Well, you you know DevRel well.
For a long time.
Yeah.
I've known you guys for a long time.
Yeah.
It's been a minute.
Few years at least.
But, yeah, dude.
I mean, it's changed a lot.
No.
I think my favorite part about it is, I don'twanna everybody say, like, is in golf

(33:55):
streetwear now.
You're definitely in golf streetwear.
Do you call it that?
Like
Yeah.
To me, it's more golf is just a culture now.
It's like Yeah.
Surf brands.
Like, people wanna wear golf shit.
That's the cool thing.
So Yeah.
It used to be nerdy to wear the word golf.
Right?
Yes.
Like, t shirt
log out.
Now it's cool.
So It's cool as fuck.
Make t shirts?
I mean, why the fuck not?
Mhmm.
And it goes the other way.

(34:15):
Like, you're wearing the streetwear on the golfcourse.
Yeah.
You can.
In certain places.
Yeah.
We portray that.
It's not necessarily that we always do that.
But
Do you think there's always a place for thecountry club?
Like, do you think that ever dies?
You know, where the the snooty, like, gottahave it tucked in.
I mean No.
Do we see that die at some point?
I don't think so.
I I see a lot of clubs that change.

(34:35):
Right?
Like, the people that have the most money don'treally have the, the dress codes.
Like, those kind of clubs, like, the super highend ones.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
The other members do as they please.
But I mean, like, one of our biggest ones.
Right?
Silver Leaf.
Right?
Yeah.
If you've been out there, I mean, fuck.
They're all in T shirts and Right.
Golf carts get pulled right up to the edge ofthe green, and nobody gives a fuck.
Well, they wanted to be the cool hip Yeah.

(34:57):
Country club.
And and they did a good job of, like,rebranding themselves that way because that
wasn't what Silver Leaf always was.
No.
No.
Absolutely not.
But Arizona's kinda weird.
Like, if you ever go to and, you know, you'refrom New York.
So if you go to a Back East Club or, like,Philly, you know, there's, like, what, 2 public
courses and everything else is super privateand old world private, and that still exists.

(35:20):
We don't really have that here.
No.
Like, not like that.
Mahogany wood everywhere.
Gold faucets.
But I will
say this because I did think about it when Iwent through, picked out a bunch of stuff when
we started this partnership.
Yeah.
And I went home and I'm like, I can wear abunch of this shit to the country club.

(35:40):
Like, there's not, like, there there arecertain things certainly that are like, okay.
That's a little bit too much for the countryclub.
But I would say the majority Like what?
T shirts.
T shirts.
T shirts is a little hard.
Oh, fuck.
But
no.
You because you guys do have a shit ton of coolT shirts.
Yeah.
We we make a lot of graphic tees.

(36:00):
It's one of our, I think, like, bread andbutters.
Would you say that's your best seller?
Yeah.
We're grabbing tees and polo shirts.
Yeah.
And you do head covers too.
We do head covers.
Yeah.
We have a golden hammer tiger head cover overthere.
Woah.
Oh, no.
Special shape, you know.
It's got a it's got a unique shape.
That's going on the mood board tomorrow, watch.
It's pretty prototype.
It's gonna be awful.

(36:24):
Oh, I did want, by the way.
And hate to bring this up while we're on air.
But I gotta get one of those, fanny packs.
Those things are so dope.
I've become a bit I know.
I know.
No.
People don't people get real sensitive aboutthe fanny pack.
It's a bug.
Because it goes across the chest now.
You don't wear it around the waist
or it's a microbog.

(36:45):
Yeah.
What what is it called?
Cross body.
Cross body.
Cross body.
Cross body.
I attached mine to my golf bag.
That's where I put all my shit.
Right?
Click it on my golf bag.
That's a great idea.
So I have one thing to grab now.
Yeah.
It's the ball sack.
I gotta get one of those.
The other sacks are just I don't feel like youcan put them anywhere.
I always lose those anyway.
And then you have a a Japan only market.

(37:05):
Right?
Like, you guys do shit specifically.
Oh, I did see that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're, I have a distribution in Japan.
So, like, a licensing partner over there, andthey make some funky shit.
It is it's wild.
It's cool.
It's very Japanese.
Like, it wouldn't sell here, though.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Not at all.
I came home with you, you had a box.
You gave me one as a Devereaux, ice pack, likea like a vintage ice pack.

(37:29):
Yeah.
They give
it ice packs because it's hot out here.
So they
Oh, my god.
But like vintage, cool, I guess.
With the screw off back and metal and coolspot.
Branded.
It's it's it's interesting.
They love, like, the Arizona golf scene.
Okay.
So they everything they portray has, like,Phoenix, Arizona on or Scottsdale, Arizona.
I mean, it is pretty dope.
Yeah.
It yeah.
It looks cool when you don't, you know, youdon't live in it.

(37:50):
So you gotta see it from afar.
I feel like Arizona has just started coming upin the golf scene because of COVID and because
so many people started visiting out here andnow it's become like a general golf trip that
all the guys wanna do and everything.
But AC's always been kind of that hot spot forgolf and not maybe not necessarily style
though, but you guys have brought it up interms of style.

(38:14):
Yeah.
AZ needs to be, I think, on the map for golf.
Of course, man.
It is everyone out here, I feel like it's a bigculture and community of golfers out there.
Yeah.
Huge.
Like, it's it's our sport.
It's what we do because you can do it yearround.
Exactly.
So, I mean And
you could play super cheap in the summer.
Yes.
Fuck.
Yeah.
So when you go back into, like I don't know.
Do we still call it green grass?
Green grass.

(38:34):
Yeah.
That's what they call it.
Green grass.
Do you do you do that across the board, like,everything's the same?
Or do you custom tailor shit?
Or if they want that, can they do that?
Like, do you make stuff specific to the club?
Or
Yeah.
Good question, man.
We do a lot of, like, custom work.
So a lot of it's like private labeling, whitelabeling where we design for other companies
Yeah.
And put stuff in pro shops or events andpromotional, deals going on.

(38:55):
So we do a lot of that.
But Mhmm.
For Greengrass, it's just gonna be we're gonnatake our our brand and and put in the space and
just see how it's received.
Probably pretty well.
We'll see.
It's
gonna be interesting for me.
I I like you know, we do a little some thingsdifferent, so we'll push some buttons.
It'll be good, though.
Well, you saw COVID.
Right?
Like, there's, like, 900,000,000,000 newpeople, in the, what, like, 18 to 35 year old

(39:21):
age category that just basically started doingit.
And they want cool shit.
They do.
They don't come from that.
You know, they didn't grow up playing golf, andnow they're like, alright.
Well
Yeah.
But with that has been, like, a 1000 new golfbrands.
Oh, yeah.
If you have a phone Yep.
Yep.
You got you got a golf apparel brand now.
So
Pretty easily.
Right?
Yeah.
Not to not to give people shit.

(39:42):
I mean, you gotta start somewhere, but it's alot.
Yeah.
It's a lot of competition right now.
Oh, no.
Shane Lowry with a little hook
at it.
Hugger nuts.
Little hooker.
Wow.
Held his breath there.
And I'd imagine they can they can fucking soupthis up.
Like, they can harden the golf course up.
They can they can make it craziest.
Wait till you see the last hole.
I wonder if we'll get there.

(40:03):
I wonder if they play it even if well, yeah.
They do because it helps with their overallstandings as to how much they won by.
Yeah.
So
it's kinda like hockey.
They get a certain amount of points, eachmatch.
But, the 15th hole is 729 yards.
Oh, god.
129?
729.
There, Ricky.
There we go.
Slick Rick.

(40:25):
Finally getting the job done.
I wonder if he's gonna pull, like, a SupermanClark Kent deal where he takes the glasses off.
I'm getting Bruce Jenner vibes.
I'm not getting super Superman vibes.
Oh, shit.
Oh.
Bruce Jenner.
I'm sorry.
I love the guy.
No.
That was so valid, though.
That's such a good comment.

(40:45):
See this coming.
Holy cow.
You didn't see him coming out like that.
No.
When he shows up
to the
club, he has a ponytail.
You're like, what's going
on?
What's up?
That's next.
I still like it.
Rick's going through a transition, guys.
He should just shave his whole head and do arat tail.
Here's Windham out of the rough.
Okay.
Oh, that looked pretty good.
Oh, he loves it.
He's actually dialed in.
He is dialed in.

(41:05):
Face.
Where's where's the flag though?
When did you first fall in love with him?
Like, what
I didn't fall in love with him.
It's just my personal trainer is the personaltrainer for Wyndham, and that was it.
And for the longest time, it became a runningjoke on this podcast that every time I'd see
Wyndham, he would never say hi to me.
Oh, come on.
You told me you saw him at Costco, and, like,you got rocked up.

(41:26):
And then finally finally, we started shitshitting on that whole thing through through a
few episodes.
Next time I go in, all of a sudden, Wyndham wasvery friendly to me.
So Can I
ask you a question then?
Yeah.
So when did you hire your personal trainer?
Oh, yeah.
No.
Don't worry.
He after we already knew he had a personaltrainer.
I went to his personal trainer.

(41:46):
I'll pay you whatever, man.
No.
I There was a lot of research,
so I wanted to
It was a golf it was a golf specific fitnesstrainer
named Got
to pencil out.
And
around Tuesdays.
Before I got married, the year prior, I startedworking out with him to get ready for the
wedding.
And I'm like, okay.
If I'm gonna start working out, let me, goahead and

(42:07):
Get somebody good at it?
Get do a golf for later.
Trainer.
I like that.
Get Wyndham.
Here we go.
Ludwig.
Ludwig just looks very steady, Eddie.
Oh my god.
He stuck it.
Absolutely stuck it.
I mean
Oh, he loves it.
Oh, wow.
That's the most personality I've ever seen outof the Lugved.
The little smooch?
The air smooch there?
Okay.

(42:28):
So the green's not real.
Right?
That's No.
That's turf.
Uh-huh.
I wonder how much different it reacts than,like, what they play on.
That's a really good point.
And that might be why short game shots like,these guys haven't spent a ton of time in here.
Like, they've come in, hit some shots, and soforth.
Yeah.
But they don't know under pressure, like, whatthe spin is gonna do and things along those
lines.
Change everything.

(42:49):
Oh, yeah.
So here we go.
Xander Schauffele to win the hole from 51 feet.
Little juice box.
Oh, it's not good.
No.
The ball came
out like that.
Did last.
That's what I'm saying.
Everything's long.
You're not getting that that chew.
It's just skipping.
Right?
So that is a problem.
They should figure it out faster.
I already figured that out.

(43:09):
They should be leaving it short.
Right.
It's gonna run out.
And that's what you were saying.
Like, you don't know if they've really been inhere grinding on the surface.
So And you had Xander who just played Kapalua.
You know how hard it is to adjust week in andweek out.
Where is this?
This is in, no.
This is in
Is it LA?
No.

(43:29):
It's in, Jupiter, Florida.
Okay.
Oh, it is?
Or West Palm in that area.
Makes sense.
Okay.
Right by Tiger's house.
I just
no.
I got it now.
There we go.
I was thinking of SoFi Stadium.
Oh, slick Rick missed it to the right.
He's got the lab putter in there still.
Oh, no.
Guys, you gotta be able to read this green.

(43:51):
You gotta get down there and read it.
No.
You can't concede putts, obviously.
No.
But this one is I mean, this this is gonna be ashutout.
Honest.
The club is absolutely dominating.
Are you watching this?
If you're not sitting here on the pod.
I mean, this is exciting doing it like this,but would you watch it at home?
The pie?
No.
Or this?
This.
Both things.

(44:12):
Yes.
Would I watch this at home?
Yeah.
With, like, you know
With some alcohol?
Drinking beer.
Yeah.
It's like Yeah.
Heavily and, like, cooking out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like walking by.
Like, the product's not a bad idea.
Yeah.
Like, Tuesday night golf.
I'd like to hear what they're saying.
See if that's any fun.
I love Tiger Woods, but he is kind of boring,right, when he starts talking.

(44:33):
Oh, he's a nerd, dude.
So Like Charles Barkley maybe?
Throw him in there somewhere.
You ever see Tiger back in the day, like, whenhe they'd
One shot penalties.
And he'd have, like like, Lee Pipes on, like,with a tucked in polo or something.
Like, he always dressed like a nerd, I feellike.
Wait.
Wait.
You like the long jean shorts.
That's what
I'm saying.
Yeah.
It's just some weird shit.

(44:53):
Get back in your golf clothes.
Yeah.
Go back.
Oh, bad.
So how's this make money?
I believe Trot Golfer is asking, basicallyviewers.
So everybody tuning in to ESPN right now isabsolutely making them money or ESPN money.
And then ESPN pays a big contract out to, theTGL in order to cover it.

(45:15):
This guy was in hair and makeup for a while.
This dude this dude does have great hair,though.
Got it.
Got it, man.
I mean, shit.
You couldn't put a bullet through it, dude.
That that's thick.
Lot of gel.
Gel.
Gel.
Spray.
Hair hair
hair blow dryer.
Hair blow dryer.
Probably a pretty expensive jacket.

(45:37):
Do you get dressed up?
The jacket
the jacket is a lot, though.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
I wonder if they paid the audience, like, theinaugural audience.
If these people are
Great question.
Like, when you go to Disney World and they'relike, hey.
You wanna be on the show tonight?
Come on in.
Like
So that is what ended up happening.
And they said that it was for both the audiencefor the main as well as they wanted to have an

(46:00):
audience beforehand so they could shoot a lotof content.
So yesterday, apparently, there was, like, apre show, type of deal where they were shooting
a live audience clapping and all that stuff andplayers walking out.
Gotcha.
So there was a lot of that going on.
Now turn
it over.
Little robot camera.
Is awesome.
Holy shit.
We gotta get one of those.

(46:21):
Okay.
Now look behind the player.
You missed it.
But that's where all the Doppler radar is, andthen you got the cameras that are actually the
shot tracer technology.
Pretty cool from a technology standpoint.
Like if I had the money, I would absolutelyhave this in my home.
Oh my God.
This would be
Or that just would be the house.
This is the That would

(46:41):
just be the house.
This would be so
sick.
Oh.
Windom oh, leaking out to the right.
That's a good ship.
No.
That's gonna come off that hill.
Yeah.
So that's the thing.
Like, that ball's landing virtually spinningback 10 feet.
That is not happening on the chipping green.
That, that is not happening on the chippinggreen.

(47:03):
Do we get into, Hideki shooting fucking
35 under.
35 under.
2 birdies?
Which What the fuck?
I mean, what team would be better for Hidekiother than the full on Irish club of Boston
Common Golf?
It just that one doesn't fit for me.
No.

(47:23):
Hideki should be like, LA made sense.
But West.
Yeah.
Like, even the Bay Club would've made sense.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
But
I feel like JT slighted him a little bitthough.
He made a comment, and he's like, yeah.
It was a great week.
You know, I really wish the win would've kickedup to made this you know, make this place play
like it it should play, like, kinda oh, soyou're kinda saying it, like, wasn't that good?

(47:44):
Or Well,
it was soft in the beginning of the week too.
Gotcha.
So it
was a lot of lot of target practice out therethat was going on.
And And I mean, you saw it across the board.
Everybody went super low, but 35 under.
35.
35.
That's 33 birdies, 2 eagles, and 2 bogeys.
Like, almost 9 under every day.
It's on Stupid.
Unreal.
The question is is Adeccy Matsuyama, he's beeninconsistent throughout his career.

(48:08):
He'll win, then it'll fade away for a while,then all of a sudden he pops back up again.
Do you think that a player can learn how tobecome more consistent?
Oh, man.
I would think success on that stage, has to dosomething for coming down the stretch and being
in contention and knowing, like, yeah, I justshot 35 under this year.

(48:29):
I can probably get it done again.
So you think he'll go back to back?
Because he's playing in the Sony Open.
Back to back, but I think something like thatwill will help a guy win more often.
I think anytime you went out there and prove toyourself you can do it, like, that that's gotta
make it easier.
Who knew?
See, I should just be voice overing what Ithink they're saying.
You should.
That would actually be great.

(48:50):
Oh my god.
Ludwig Goldberg for birdie.
And the hammer was out.
I did it.
We put the hammer out.
Holy crap.
This is a sweep, man.
This is unbelievable.
Are they just torching them?
The New York golf club is getting absolutelymarked out there.
And they were favored.
Right?
Yeah.
Minus 125.
I mean, this isn't even fair.

(49:11):
I changed it before.
Oh, you did?
Yeah,
man.
That's right.
The money's still good.
Yeah.
What a bomb.
Holy shit.
I can't believe that.
Oh, yeah.
Lowry loves it.
Loves?
Oh, loving.
Oh.
Oh, Tiger loves it.

(49:31):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Xander does not love it.
No.
No.
That was hard hit for Xander.
I wonder what the viewership's like on thisright now.
I really wonder.
Yeah.
I mean, click on, do me a favor because we'rejust brand new on Rumble.
Yeah.
Do me a favor and click on that Rumble tab realquick there, Jordan, up top.

(49:54):
It's the green one.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Got that magic 9.
Look at you guys.
Look at this.
Good.
Hit that.
Oh, it's dialed.
Or actually refresh that page real quick.
Let's see if it's actually playing.
There's some guy that fucking
Oh, yeah.
Oh, there we are.
We posted a clip of
Look at that.
Me on that.
I was heavily intoxicated.
Anybody watching over there?

(50:15):
2 people
went to a Halloween store and, like, bought allthat jewelry.
Brand new.
This guy's like
We're putting some 30 plus year old man tryingto fucking look cool wearing girl's glasses
with a bunch of fake jewelry.
I was like, dude.
Actually, exit out of that.
It's fucking it's it's trying to be funny.
No.
Because I sound that way.
Come on, dude.
Yeah.
This is me all day.
The people in the comments are the mostmiserable way.

(50:35):
It's the best.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here we go.
He's on fire, so this is good.
Let's pick it up.
Ludwig.
Ludwig's dialed.
He played really well, by the way, at the,century.
He actually finished t 5.
So he shot 24 under, which normally that wouldbe a pretty damn good week.
You're probably winning most golf tournamentsor close to winning.

(50:59):
Guy's built for golf.
I mean, he's so good.
And and then you have Wyndham at t 15 at minus21 that last week, and then Matt Fitzpatrick
was t 24 at minus 20.
Here's Zander teeing off.
Just laced.
I
think it's my favorite swing.
Zander?
On tour.
Yeah.
Do you like the bowed wrist at the time?
I do.

(51:21):
I think it's a modern thing, but, yeah, I dofor sure.
Do you like it better than Ludwig's?
Like, right off the bat, he just follows up.
Ludwig is the best move.
I I love Ludwig.
I think it is.
I think it's I just like watching.
I don't know.
There's, like, a style of
the Xander's move.
I kinda like There is a style.
It was like a throwback, like, to yesteryearwhen dudes didn't swing like

(51:44):
robots.
Okay.
Here we
go.
Slick Rick.
Mhmm.
Bruce Fowler.
We got Elon Fitzpatrick, Bruce Fowler.
He's got a 149 yards.
We got the readers that
we Walk us through the swing.
Yeah.
Okay.
So he does a little power waggle.
Hi.
I'm good.
Yep.
Now he's gotten a lot steeper over the years.
Right?
Working with Butch.

(52:06):
Yeah.
A little bit a little bit more width thanvertical.
He used
to be way flat.
Yep.
Oh, Rick is not happy about it.
One of my good buddies is his caddy, And, he'slike, yeah.
You don't see him, like, we're real close.
But he said day in and day out, dude, it's likea fucking spectacle driving the golf ball,
like, week in and week out.
You don't see it on TV
a lot.
All those long monikers.

(52:26):
I guess he just drives it unbelievably.
Hits it far too.
He's not a big guy.
Lowry, I like because he's got the little ChubbScouts going, and I can
relate to that.
Do you root for guys that are big?
I have to.
Yeah.
Because I know what they've been through.
You know?
Well, you got 2 things.
You got big guys, and then you got, left handedgolfers.
Yeah.
And you put 2 together, and you're in a worldof your own.

(52:48):
It's a world of hurt.
Is there a big left handed golfer that isprominent out there other than you?
God.
I don't think so.
There's what the fuck is his name?
I can't remember his name, but I wouldn't callhim big.
He's still, like, 5 foot 4.
He's not that fat, so it doesn't count.
So he's low to the ground.
He's very low to the ground.

(53:08):
But I feel like a lot of tour players are.
They're all a lot of them are built likejockeys.
I mean, Ricky Feller's 59.
He's on the shorter side.
Yeah.
For sure.
I saw I thought somebody was farting there fora second.
That was a motorcycle going by.
Yeah.
At Denver Golf, we have this incrediblebarbershop next
door.
Yeah.
Just smoking weed and rubbing engines.

(53:29):
I was gonna say, bro, one time I I walked outthere, I was like, there's ab they're
absolutely selling drugs right there.
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean,
I'm not gonna snot money laundering.
No.
Poor stock.
Get some interesting I'll be peeking
out the window when that happens.
Talking shit.
Yeah.
Oh, no gunshots though.
Right?
So, what are, Wyndham's tall?

(53:50):
Is he like
Wyndham's tall.
He's like 62.
6162.
Just the tower.
No.
Is that another is that another thing that youor kind of, like, is that part of the allure
for you?
62?
Yeah.
62.
Then he gave him 63.
It's gotta be, like, you know, I've stood nexthim a
little while.
Phil Mickelson's 6 3.
He's a lot bigger than a lot of people realize.

(54:11):
He's tall.
Bigger lefty.
Yeah.
Ever since
he got
on that coffee, man, he's looking svelte.
Yeah.
I don't know if he
had boob
reduction though, because he used to get a lotof shit for that back in the
day.
He wears Spanx.
You think so?
Yeah.
You can tell.
He also wears, like, a tight top when it usedto Absolutely.
You know what?
Keep doing it since he got picked on.
He also looked like he had cancer for a while,and he was in active chemo.

(54:33):
Yeah.
I guess you're right.
Like, we haven't seen a nipple out of Phil in awhile.
There's no nipples.
It's all spanks.
Yeah.
It's all spanks.
I might need to look into this.
Great day.
Oh.
Oh, no.
What is going on here?
I don't know.
This
seems rigged.
It seems rigged.
They are not doing well, this New York GolfClub.
So if I go on, like, DraftKings right now,like, they're there this is this is on there?

(54:55):
They're getting dominated.
Yeah.
Okay.
And I bet what are the odds?
Oh, man.
So locked in that magic mind, dude?
I'm gonna try to find out.
Ugh.
Doesn't it just lock you in mentally?
Oh, god, dude.
I'm not gonna say
that.
Very clear.
Only a tiny amount of, caffeine, only 55somethings.
They rereleased Modern Warfare too, though, soI gotta get home and get home for that.

(55:18):
Yeah.
Wow.
It's gonna be tight to play Modern Warfare onthis screen.
Oh my god.
Just rent it out and do that.
Oh, or do both, like, you know, split screen.
I don't know.
I'm a hit some wedges now in between.
Yeah.
Where's the blue board?
Look at that screen.
How tall is the screen?
I think it's fucking
It's 5 stories tall.
We got Tiger here rocking Puma tonight.

(55:41):
Looking pretty I can
see that now.
Now that you say it.
Yeah.
It's got the
the curve.
Slausenger could, you know?
Yeah.
I don't think they can afford to see anymore.
Can't?
No.
Do they still make balls?
Yeah.
Why don't do they?
I think they do.
I think the slot the slots are still around.

(56:01):
Cheap.
Right?
Yeah.
They gotta be around.
I'll
tell you a funny fucking story.
A little quick aside here.
I was on my way to my senior year.
We're on our way to a high school golf match,and, I didn't I forgot to get balls.
So I make coach stop at Target.
Right?
This is back when there was still wound balls.
So I'm like, alright.
I gotta go in and get some tour prestigenineties.
That's what I played.
So I go in and spend way too much at Target,and I had some shitty balls that I was chipping

(56:25):
and warming up with.
So now I get to the box, and I pull out asleeve.
And what fucking comes out of the sleeve?
Slausenger.
Yep.
Slausenger, like, fucking XL 10000 rock hard.
I I was just I was like, oh, you gotta be so,yeah, I did buy them at Target.
Some fucking ass.
Check the box.
No.
Somebody swapped them out.
I and I had to yeah.
So I had, like, one fucking beat the shit balland end up playing a sloshinger.

(56:47):
Played like shit too.
It wasn't good.
They're about the whole
thing they're
doing now.
What?
You guys No, dude.
You hey.
We're on commercial break here.
We got Gronk, and I don't care for
the whole the whole thing right now.
Yeah.
Is you buy a Bosch Pro at at at Walmart, andyou go buy the whole refurbished pack for $20.

(57:10):
K.
A whole bucket that you can buy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And
then you go replenish that whole box with therefurbished pack.
Yeah.
You you got 2 packs.
Mhmm.
So then you go there,
you do that, and you go back to you go back toWalmart.
You return it.
You buy and return it.
Full money back.
You get your full pro v.

(57:33):
We should get a knife.
That's committed to the game.
That's how bad shit happens.
Hang on, man.
Explain to the audience what he is saying sincehe can't hear them.
So he's saying you go and you buy the reeferballs, swap out with the real box, return the
real box with the shittters.
Trophies.
Now you gotta do balls and your money back.
Wow.
Zombies.

(57:53):
They you have to do refurbished trophies.
I thought the boxes are, like, all sealed upnow and shit, though.
No return.
Seal.
Yeah.
Throw them in there.
Sounds like you got a pretty
good Yeah.
You got a system.
Yeah.
You could be arrested after this podcast.
Hey.
I
put You're thinking face isn't on the camera.
Yeah.
Fuck.
I played left action, baby.
Come on.

(58:14):
He's like, one time I returned 3 bucks.
Holy shit, dude.
It ain't me, dude.
It ain't me.
I'm
Come on.
Does DevRel offer schmedium shirts?
Need to impress the cart girl at my local muni.
That's from Brian Shade.
What did he ask?
So he's asking medium.
Do you do schmedium shirts?
Yeah.
We do schmedium.
Yeah.
You can do schmediums.

(58:34):
It's basically a small.
Right?
You guys should actually do a schmedium onetime.
Oh my goodness.
Schmedium.
Yeah.
Get
small as a schmedium.
Oh.
How did so how did you guys get into, like youdid the pickleball drop.
Yeah.
I did get into pickleball.
Michelob, like, how does how do all thesecollabs come up and then, like, the multi
sports shit?

(58:55):
Yeah.
Pickleball, we did that with Fila.
I kinda Okay.
Got in that just like new people in theindustry that reached out to us for
collaboration.
So that was random, but pickleball is, I guess,kinda goes hand in hand with golf a little bit.
In its place.
Yeah.
You know, it's it's kind of a layup.
So we did that.
We don't really do too much of that anymore.

(59:15):
But the collaborations with Johnny Walker andMichelob Ultra, those honestly came by through,
DMs and Instagram.
Really?
Really?
Yeah.
So things that you're looking at and you'relike, is this real?
Wanna ignore.
For sure.
But, yeah, you follow-up on just in case and,yeah, both were well, we're still in
partnership with Johnny Walker.
Drink Johnny Walker Scotch on the golf courses.

(59:37):
What we're telling everybody to do, That's forthe brave.
But,
we talked about that last time.
Yeah.
It's it's a.
You gotta yeah.
Yeah.
You're gonna have a a hell of a day.
Don't drive there.
No.
They just came up through Instagram, which iskinda cool to see.
You these big brands reach out, and then wejust do partnerships.
It's it's all their way to get on the course toshow that they're with, like, a younger brand

(59:58):
to position themselves.
Oh, that's what I was gonna say.
Utilize us, and we design the merch to puteverything out in collaboration, and then just
get a piggyback off their riches, which is fun.
Fuck you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's cool that they feel like you guys alignthough for, like, for what they're trying to
do.
Yeah.
It's always alcohol brand.
So Which is great.
Yeah.
And
I'm sure you get some We
get a shit ton of alcohol.
Yeah.

(01:00:19):
We're always handing out alcohol over here.
We get we get too much free alcohol.
You know?
So Bob, you know, all the other guys likeYouTube golfers and shit like that, they've
done the beers and slamming beers and shit likethat, but maybe that's what we need to do.
We're talking
so much.
Let's go out and fucking hammer some Johnny oneday and just see what happens.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And fill that
I know a guy.

(01:00:39):
I got you.
You know?
Maybe oh, there's Butsy.
Oh, my god.
Who the fuck was that?
That's Scott Van Peltz guy.
Oh, they paid him.
Oh, yeah.
No.
He's part of the broadcast.
Yeah.
Wonder what Lowry's favorite food is.
For a
big fella, he loves the white pants too.
He does.

(01:01:00):
Yep.
Alright.
Here we go.
So what do we got here?
235 yards.
235.
Oh.
Dropped the door.
Oh, he threw it in there as he was about tohit.
Wow.
Wow.
Ballsy moved there.
I just had to see almost got him.
They had to change something.
Time it up right when he's swinging.

(01:01:20):
Now the question is, have they used a time outyet?
We don't have the sound on, so we don't know ifthey've got a time out.
But my god, if you're down 6 to nothing, youcall a goddamn time out.
What are you using a time out for?
You mean A pep talk.
Motivation.
Maybe go get a shot of whiskey.
Yeah.
Johnny Walker scotch.
Oh.
Oh, hooked it left.
Camera shot him off.
Wow.

(01:01:41):
Oh, that's that's going left.
That's gotta come back down the hill.
Oh.
That's not realistic.
Oh.
No.
That ball is fucked.
Blow it away.
Smells like cow shit.
Sorry.
That's bad.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Alright.
Bruce.
It's these are sticking now.

(01:02:02):
Like, these these names are sticking.
It's a good name for it right now.
I think so, dude.
It
came off naturally, I feel like.
That one looked pretty good.
Little hydro.
Oh, nice.
That's a good comment there, man.
Which one?
Ben checking out the defro site and the joggersthat are on sale are very reasonably priced.
Yeah, man.
How about that?
Get those.

(01:02:22):
Last chance at those.
So Yeah.
You're not doing them anymore?
No no returns, man.
No.
Just
kidding.
Yeah.
You're hooked you're hooked on the yeah.
So Trot Trot just, told us that, there was justa 5 minute break.
So maybe they did call a time out, I believe.
Was it a TV time out, or was it an actual teamtime out?

(01:02:43):
That's what I'm wondering.
They probably send us to a commercial.
Right?
They did.
Why the crickets again?
It's damn crickets.
You gave them to me.
So how many how many hammer flags or hammers do
You're only supposed to get 1 per matchup,though.
Per Yeah.
Maybe 9?
Fun maybe per session?

(01:03:04):
They didn't say.
That would make sense, though.
Yeah.
You could just you can just fucking pull outthe hammer all the time.
I think people get arrested for that.
Is he gonna left?
Matt Fitzpatrick cross handed chipping.
Oh, he almost made it and you saw the checkupthere.

(01:03:25):
So it is possible to get some check on theturf.
Oh, he loves it.
Look at that smile.
Those braces did an absolute number for thisguy.
And he's got a Sketchers, sponsorship.
I mean, you talk about wanting to be a dad.
That is that's it right there.
Holy shit.
Got a
Sketchers sponsorship?

(01:03:45):
Oh.
Yes.
What do you got in here?
Yeah.
Just a little tree thing on.
Show this shit off.
Fuck.
Fuck.
That was almost devastating.
That almost was.
This is kind of our first go at this.
Right?
Like, where we're
Ludwig over fucking
sitting down, and we're gonna try to
This is a 5 footer to tie.

(01:04:05):
Announcement.
Oh, Ludwig did not miss at all.
It's that was his moment.
Now do you think because of the age, Ludwig'syounger than all these other guys, do you think
because of the age he's been in golf simulatorsa lot more, Has more experience in him?
It's like a video game for him.
I doubt that.

(01:04:26):
Very much so.
That was a terrible question.
Doubt Ludwig grew up on simulators.
I think he's been he spent a lot of timehitting balls off grass.
Oh, man.
That's great.
Oh, let's show let's show some shit off here.
Hey, Tuesday.
It's not bad for
a Tuesday night sport.
Right?
I think I think that's where we're landingright now.

(01:04:46):
This is fantastic.
If you play golf and and yeah.
This doesn't exist before this.
So, yeah, this is something to do.
Yeah.
And it doesn't overlap football, guys.
Right?
It's not
on my hand.
Compete.
Can't do that.
Football.
I don't
know if we can get that on the camera.
This is a new one here.
Arizona locals only golf club.

(01:05:09):
Walk them through that head cover.
You you have appreciation for the
head cover.
Do.
So what goes into them?
We got a lot going on here.
I definitely do have an appreciation for it.
We got some awesome thick embroidery.
It looks like a little applique here.
So that means that there's, like, an extrapiece cut out that's also sewed on.
It's not just all one piece.
You got some patching going on multiplematerials, and it just looks fucking sick.

(01:05:32):
We got, like, a little snake running throughhere.
Pretty cool.
State 48 right there.
This is skunk.
Let me steal this just for doing that promoright there.
Take that promo.
Yeah.
That's that's
a state 48.
That's a local brand, so we do a lot ofpartnerships with Kelly.
We do.
We screwed up the last time.
We we didn't grab a head cover for the golf bagthat's in the studio.
We gotta get you guys

(01:05:52):
We got we got to get a couple head covers.
I mean, the snake skin's pretty dope.
Yeah.
Head covers are we've been doing head coversmaybe 4 years now, and it is They're getting
really popular.
Those are sick.
Like, online.
The the work is very detailed, but I feel likewe have a different direction in which we
design head covers.
So sick.
K.
We got Wyndham Clark here playing into theblack desert.

(01:06:15):
Wanna talk about.
K.
This is hole number 8 of 15, and Wyndham justabsolutely rips 1.
Rips it down the middle.
Can he reach the fairway, though?
Oh, no.
Are we short?
What did he hit?
So hang on.
I gotta go back to my notes.
What we're on hole 8.
Hole 8 is
You're like blues clues over here.

(01:06:37):
Par 4.
It's the flex.
528 par 4.
Are the the carry though?
Yeah.
I that's a great question.
Are the holes named?
Yeah.
You called it the Flex?
The Flex.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Here's Matt Fitzpatrick.
Elo.
297, it looks like, to carry to

(01:06:57):
fucking oh, he can't carry it.
Oh, no.
He'd he shook his head.
He's like, I hate that.
No.
Oh, there's there's volcanic.
There's a volcano.
Yeah.
Active volcano there.
That's lava.
That is spewing lava over there.
They should add, like, the 4 d element.
Like, front
of, like, a heater on them.
Oh, that would be great.

(01:07:18):
Yep.
Blow some wind in there.
Yeah.
Where's the wind?
We need some wind.
I wonder if you could do that.
Of course, you can.
Get some big fans.
Like, where it actually affects the ball forhim.
There's a
yard moving green that changes undulations.
Irritating the person swinging.
Right?
He's not so comfortable.
I give him off his game.
Right.
Sanders got 236 to the stick.

(01:07:40):
So Fitzpatrick laid back.
They need, like, a Baseball action.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Oh my
god.
That would be
Oh, what a great film.
Boss size.
They need, like, a waste management section.
Like, we're gonna need time a beer just comesflying out out
of the
Oh, look at this.
This is looking pretty damn good.
Pretty damn good.
It's a wee bit.
Oh, from 236.

(01:08:01):
Got that to laying soft.
Is the audience out there?
Are you guys watching this shit right now?
I would I would like to assume, but
Open on their couch with a drink in hand?
Hell, I don't think so.
We should
create a shot game for people to take shotswhile watching this.
When did the tell me when the famous skull whenwhen did that when was that born?

(01:08:22):
That guy is only 5 years.
Yeah.
One of my designers put that together.
So that is he's back here, obviously.
But Yeah.
Our desert golfer.
So Arizona local.
Right?
Everything is.
So it's, you know, it relates to those guyswhat it knows what, you know, what it feels
like to play golf in the heat.
Fucking hot.
You're We know what it is.
You you know?
And the Skoles are representative of this area.

(01:08:42):
So that's our Skole Caddy.
It's cool.
Love it.
Get up with
the golf eyes, Ron.
Right?
Classic.
Absolutely.
There's no end to that in sight.
Like, that's No.
That's our guy.
Yeah.
Gonna find its way into a lot of pieces.
And it bothers a lot of, country clubs, sothat's always fun.
Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
They get
oh, it's it's damn.
Like, whatever, man.
I think I have another Cayman's, please.
It's definitely one of my favorite logos fromyou guys.

(01:09:03):
Appreciate that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got quite a few items with that on there.
So how long does it take from I mean, I'm sureyou guys storyboard.
You sit around, like, come up with an idea, andthen, it turns into an image.
And then, like, what's the product cycle?
Like, once you come up with an idea, how longfrom idea we're doing this to it's on the shelf
or it's on the website?

(01:09:24):
Yeah.
Right now, we operate about 6 months inadvance.
Okay.
That's because we're direct to consumer, soeverything goes e commerce.
Yeah.
But to be wholesale, that retail, it's a yearin advance.
Yeah.
I was gonna say you gotta do way farther.
Yeah.
So right now, we're we're designing fall 2025.
Okay.
Plus, like, holiday already, which isdepressing.
That's fucking crazy.
You never get a get away from it.

(01:09:44):
There's no break.
No.
No.
But it's exciting because we have masterscoming out in March, and everyone's always
looking for the masters.
You probably don't wanna do any masters.
You probably won't do any sneak peeks.
Right?
Like, you can only keep that.
Why is Ricky feller chipping this?
That makes zero sense.
Yeah.
She makes it.
Oh.
Oh.
He almost made it.

(01:10:05):
Why would you chip that on
Yeah.
On turf?
Why wouldn't you just pot that?
In a perfect transition Give
him credibility.
You know, he's he'd been on tour for a while.
He probably knows a thing or 2, but
There's there's a dummy.
Musadecchi on Boston Common Golf.
God.
Man.
Now, Trot golfer did mention as well here that,he'd love to chat with you in regards to doing

(01:10:27):
some stuff with DevRel with their logo, thelove bird on it.
Yeah.
So he runs, is it Palm Brook?
Palm Brook.
Palm Brook Golf Club.
Yeah.
Out west?
Yeah.
So gonna have to get
get get in there.
Yeah.
We gotta get your email, man.
We'll get you hooked up.
What's the best way to do that?
Just shoot a d m over?
Shoot it to, there's a [e-mail].

(01:10:50):
There you go.
3
e's.
R r y a n.
Yeah.
Cool.
Devereux.
Website.
Yeah.
Devereux.
Yeah.
And that and that's why I asked you because I,like, you did an activation at Stingers.
Right?
Yeah.
I love that.
Love that place.
I went in there and and I saw some of the shiton the wall, and I was like, oh, that's DevRel.

(01:11:10):
Oh, like, you can't buy that shit, like,anywhere else.
So that's, like, custom.
Yeah.
Full on custom for him.
So we did a lot of graphic tees, polo shirts,head covers.
He went all out.
That that place is awesome.
It really is cool, dude.
The ground moves and shit.
It's a good hang.
So this hole is called the sphere.
You see this?
Yep.
Very oddly shaped, and then a little stadiumaround it where no maybe they got some AI bots

(01:11:33):
in that, around the green.
I don't know.
Like, 2 more of those screens that kinda showover here.
I don't know.
It's probably not cheap.
Here we go.
Ludwig.
I mean, that's a smooth move, man.
So this isn't a par 3?
No.
A par 5.
I can't Oh, my lord.
Hustle?
No.
It's plenty.

(01:11:54):
Out of
the rough, though.
Out of the rough.
Gonna be playing it.
Brian Shane says, okay.
That Devro windbreaker with the script on theback is sharp.
Alright.
Oh, is he searching the site
right now?
Audience is loving the Devro.
So what's the code?
Save some money.
Oh, shit.
I didn't even drop the
code yet.
Yep.
Holy goddamn
point here.
Tell me to do my job.

(01:12:15):
Jesus.
Do your job on South Park.
They're taking their jobs.
So with that said, we're buffering over hereon, Xander's show.
Oh, awesome.
Great timing.
Great timing.
We've got, pole hook golf twenty.
So utilize promo code, pole hook golf twenty.
That's p u l l h o o k g o l f, the number 2,the number 0, for 20% off.

(01:12:41):
20% off at devrogolf.com.
Yeah.
It's a pretty good deal.
You're not gonna you're not gonna find thatdiscount anywhere else.
No.
Right?
Like, pretty solid.
Yep.
Yeah.
Brian Shane, I had one job.
One job.
I had
a fine job.
You had one job.
Oh, boy.
So here's, and I missed Xander's shotcompletely.
So here's Shane Lowry.

(01:13:02):
He piped it.
Hitting his second shot.
Oh, he laid up.
Laid up.
You hate to see it.
Well, when you get a 6 point lead
We're not gonna
Yeah.
Will we see the golden hammer come
Oh, here here comes Now
how many times can they use it?
Slick Rick.
I think only once.
Okay.

(01:13:23):
I don't know.
Oh, hang on a second.
Apparently, you can use it multiple times, andit goes back and forth between the teams
because I just saw the logo up top.
So that would make sense that now Yeah.
The only group that can throw it is the bayclub.
Oh.
Wow.
This is going to be just fine.
Oh, it's left.

(01:13:43):
It's going to be where
are all the fans?
Where are the AI bots in there?
Gosh, wouldn't it be cool if they did like livestream from people's living rooms and they just
had like all those, remember the NBA duringCOVID.
It's a huge liability though.
So you get some
weird asshole.
It'd be like, yeah.
Go Rick's.
I love Ricky.

(01:14:04):
It's the hair.
No, I really love Ricky.
Look at the wind of Sharron.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, man.
We're gonna
go live to Bob in Sacramento.
And Cut.
No.
Cut it.
He's got stick out.
He's cut.

(01:14:25):
Oh, no.
Here we go.
Wyndham.
70 70 yards locked in.
Did you see that?
Way too locked in.
Oh, shit.
He's grinding out.
What do these guys
are getting for a sponsorship now?
Like, what's what do you think
Oh my god.
He oh, no.
It's deep.
Like, would you would you guess?
What would you guess be?
What's what's T Mobile paying?
How depressed do we wanna be?

(01:14:46):
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Is that a is that a $1,000,000 deal?
Like
No.
500.
Think so?
Yeah.
What are golf sponsorships going for now?
That high sponsored
Danny Lee on tour.
You did?
I did.
And he 1st year I sponsored him.
He was leading the waste management open, andhe shit the bed.
Oh, you
hate to
see that.

(01:15:07):
Yeah.
Saw that coming, obviously.
Finished 4th great.
Had a good year, but sponsorships range.
So left chest, hat is your most expensivesponsorship.
Right?
Front and yeah.
Like like, that's prime.
Yeah.
I think starting, like what was he?
He was top 25 in the world at the time.
Yeah.
And that was 8 years ago.
That was about 50,000 for the hat.

(01:15:28):
Wow.
For the year?
Yeah.
For the year.
And then it it just goes down left chest, leftsleeve.
Oh, what's that?
People are
paying those sponsorships on top
of that.
So Look at this.
Some trickery.
And and to touch on the sponsorship thing, Iknow that there's, like, still big ecom and
shit like that that still spend money on theseguys, but I know from a club perspective,

(01:15:49):
there's just no ROI anymore.
Like, they don't a lot of companies don't paythese guys anymore.
You know what I mean?
Like, they'd love to to have them play theirstuff, but I think if you're not in the top
five, well, most of these guys it's not what itwas.
We we know who the guys are that are gettingpaid.
Right?
They're the same guys that appear in the TaylorMade videos.
Exactly.
It's the same 6.
Mhmm.

(01:16:09):
Yeah.
You're I mean I
can't believe that chip by, Matt MattFitzpatrick.
And for what you guys are trying to do and whatyou're, you know, continuing to build oh, I
thought they made it.
Why would he yep.
Oh.
Is it New York finally got a point.
Is that even a huge value anymore to to haveyour shit being worn by a tour player?
Or
It has to be the right guy.

(01:16:30):
Yeah.
Has to be the right guy.
It's expensive play.
I mean, there's multiple ways to go about it.
Yeah.
But it's also, you know, you have Nike onthere.
Nike has, like, 5 guys in the top 10 everyweekend.
That's when it's the value.
Yeah.
When it's your one guy, your one horse, and hedoesn't make the cut, it sucks.
You're not getting any time.
You can't get it any time.
Right.
But I used to see spikes and, like, I rememberJohnny Miller talked about, Danny Lee's pants

(01:16:54):
one day.
He's a fan of Bay Hill.
Mhmm.
Sells just spikes.
So that was really cool to see those things.
So it does have its benefits.
It works.
Like, it can work.
But if you shit in the bed, man, it's notworking.
I gotta see you on Saturday, Sunday.
No.
And you and then you quickly find out who thePGA follows around.
They're not putting everybody on air.
No.
And that's the one thing that we talk about onthe pod all the time is, like, if you're not a

(01:17:16):
top 10 guy, you You're
not getting
you never see if I
get built up and, like, become somebody.
It's either he's in the top 20 or we don't knowwho the fuck that is.
Right.
Like, he's not far away.
You win.
Yeah.
It's like it's so difficult to be an up andcomer.
It'd be really cool to know more about a guythat's, you know, 75th on the list and what
he's going through and the grind and all that,and you just don't see that.

(01:17:37):
There's so many missed opportunity.
It's media wise with all these great storiesthat are out there.
Yep.
But let me, let me talk about something herereal quick with the TGL.
K?
We've got the 2nd session coming up.
Now this is individual match play head to headand the rotation is going to go.
So you got Ricky playing against Shane Lowry onthe whole number 10, then you got Matt

(01:18:02):
Fitzpatrick going against Wyndham Clark, andthen you've got Xander Schauffler going against
Ludwig.
And then it turns over again for the last 3holes.
Okay.
So this is where anything can happen at thispoint because they gotta win all 5 basically in
order to tie and go to a, do you know whattheir, little overtime is?

(01:18:23):
No.
Closest to the pin.
Oh.
How about that?
Wow.
Just like us.
Just like something we would do.
Right?
Yeah.
So what's the time slot here?
Like, they have to get done in a certain amount
of time.
Hour time slot.
That's it.
Yep.
Fuck.
Okay.
Yeah.
Up until 9 o'clock.
Yeah.
It's pretty fast pace, though.

(01:18:43):
I like that, how quick it is.
Yeah.
Like, we're already on, like, the 8th hole or10th hole or whatever it is.
Where what hole are we on?
Do we know?
We are on number 10.
So this is we're heading into the 2nd session.
What's this hole called?
So this is called the serpent.
Oh, the serpent.
616 yard par 5.
K?
And it looks like a goddamn serpent out there.
Wonder if companies can, like, sponsor a wholeprobably at some point.

(01:19:06):
Oh, absolutely.
They're gonna start selling sponsorships oneverything.
Anything.
Everything they possibly can.
Turf paradise?
Throw that out there.
Just paint it in the grass.
Well, at some point, they're gonna get rid ofthe SoFi sign around the tee boxes, and that's
gonna get sold to somebody.
Yeah.

(01:19:27):
You're gonna get a whole bunch of sponsorships.
And then is there, like, a Super Bowl at theend of the year for this?
I'm sure.
Yes.
Like, there's some there's playoffs.
Yes.
Big championship.
Yeah.
What kind of money are they playing for?
Do we know?
That I don't know.
They they didn't really talk about the money.
Money?
Were they like, what kind of cash was on theline?

(01:19:47):
On this?
Mhmm.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't think I don't think they've talkedabout it at all.
They don't really want it to be
about money.
Wanna be about pride.
These guys I think the money comes from what
he's saying coming on the back end.
Those boys are big.
I remember when I was working at the golfcourse and the the offensive line from the

(01:20:08):
Cardinals came in.
I was just like, oh, these are differentpeople.
Like, they're how I feel right now.
Bro, they're huge, dude.
They're it's unbelievable.
Austin has a great comment here.
How intimidating would it be to show up at yourclub stroke play or your stroke play
championship at your club with a skull sweatervest?

(01:20:31):
I like it.
I have that I have that skull sweater vest, bythe way, and it goes hard.
Yeah.
That's right.
It goes hard, and I love it.
I wear it around the house.
When my wife, like, starts yelling at me, Ijust start rocking it.
We gotta show up.
What's the that olive jacket?
That's probably my favorite thing right now.
I got the blue.
Cobra Kai jacket.
Oh, see.

(01:20:51):
You guys
Nice thing, dude.
This thing is You got it in that.
Hawkins.
I've got it in black.
No.
I don't have it because they don't have fuckingsuper fat yet.
Oh, no.
Oh, I didn't see the green.
I gotta get a
Holy shit.
Dude, look at this.
I got the black one.
I don't know if you guys can see that, but thishang on.
Here comes the fucking money shot.

(01:21:12):
Get out of town.
Yeah.
Very nontraditional.
Canvas jacket.
I I wore I wore my black one.
Actually, can you grab the black one?
It's right there.
Yeah.
So I wore this in New York City.
This is so
fucking cute.
Yeah.
This is
black one's one of my favorites.
Over the over the holidays, I went to New YorkCity.
And, folks, check this one out.
So, yeah, the green's dope, but cobra cobrakai, motherfucker.

(01:21:36):
Like, that is so sick.
And what do you call that fabric?
Like, because it's not like a micro well, whatis
It's cotton it's cotton twill.
Cotton twill.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what is our take so far on the TGL?
What do you guys think?
We're not we're not listening to the broadcastor anything like that, but I feel like this so
far, other than the fact that the Bay Club isabsolutely dominated, like, straight up raped

(01:21:57):
these guys from the New York golf club.
Like, if it was a better competition, I feellike this would be dope.
I'm I'm with Bert on this one.
This is a great reason to get sewed it up on aTuesday night.
Like Yeah.
We got a new reason now to to drink on aTuesday night.
Yeah.
Bert, you're on to something there.
Yeah.
I need sports to, like, sit down and drink

(01:22:17):
and Yeah.
Something.
Do something.
Do something.
Right?
I feel like I could drink beer.
I don't drink beer a lot, but I could drinkbeer watching this.
Yeah.
It's beer.
Or some sippers with, some Johnny Walker.
Are they gonna I mean, are bars gonna fill up?
Like, are you gonna see people at sports barson a Tuesday night to watch this?
I don't know.
No chance.
No.
No chance.
Going over to Clancy's, man.

(01:22:39):
They got the TGL on tonight.
If we had a power play, we could start dukingit out.
Yes.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Hit that.
What's this?
Big hit.
Oh, into the penalty area.
He's done.
Get him out of there.
Put a fork in the kid.
Here he comes.
Wow.
Stuck that one.
Gotta highlight

(01:23:00):
from here.
Yeah.
What is going on here?
I have no idea what
What are we missing?
I think this is, like, from a previous himpracticing.
You You know what I think I need, dude, for,like, a summertime range sesh?
I need, like, a karate kid style Devroheadband.
Oh, dude.
That could be that
that could be fire.
Fucking, but,

(01:23:20):
like Yeah.
Big thing on the front.
Like, I do karate.
I don't know.
I would wear that at the range.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I could see you wearing that at the range.
Yeah.
Actually.
Fucking.
On top
of Michael Yeah.
Silver.
And a tank.
Like, that's a Dobson special.
Right?
Oh,
yes.
Yeah.
Could you imagine him under the top tracers allof a sudden just smoking shit with his karate

(01:23:42):
headband on?
Yeah.
Be unbelievable.
Getting told you can't smoke cigarettes outthere.
What?
You can't?
I don't
think so.
Yeah.
But it's like
you're Right.
It's more of a courtesy thing.
Everybody looks at you like you're killingsomebody now, so you gotta be very careful.
The vapes are worse, I've heard.
Yeah.
The the truth's coming out about those.

(01:24:02):
Yep.
That's the popcorn alarm.
Did I miss the live segment of this show?
No.
You didn't.
You're not sure there.
We're gonna get into it.
Sure didn't.
Yep.
Yeah.
We've been fully focused on the TGL tonight.
We do not have any.
And our Devro golf partnership and learning allwe can from Bert here.
And we absolutely will not see live players, inthis.

(01:24:24):
Right?
And it was you and your brother, right, that,started this?
Yeah.
Yeah.
My brother that older brother.
So we, like I said, started it 12 years ago,man.
What started?
Me.
Me.
I I grew up playing golf.
Playing golf with my dad, and I just wanted tocreate I I always got in trouble at the country

(01:24:44):
club.
Right?
Yeah.
Wearing my hat backwards, talking shit.
I'm just that guy.
You're a problem.
Love it, but I was I was a problem.
I'm a problem.
So I just wanted to create a a golf brand thatkinda spoke to a younger generation.
And that's that's really what created it.
So I just went on my own mission to do that,and my brother, joined me on that, started
raising money and put this thing together.

(01:25:05):
So it's
It's awesome.
It's been a it's been a ride, man.
Trout wants to know, does Max still work atDevRel?
No.
No.
He's off on another venture in marketing.
Okay.
I don't know if I ever met Max.
Is that a recent thing?
Yeah.
He was, like, no.
Maybe, like, 6 months ago.
Tall Kid?
Yep.
Yeah.
Tall Kid.
Yeah.
There it is.
The technology being used.

(01:25:27):
The full swing kit, little launch monitor.
Now is Tiger on a team?
Tiger is.
He's he owns Jupiter Links Golf Club.
Okay.
Fitting.
Living in Jupiter, doing his things in Jupiter,loving the Perkins.
God, that little
That Jupiter
Facility in his yard.
Yeah.
You see his backyard.
It's just
It's basically a golf course.

(01:25:47):
Of course.
It's unreal.
Yeah.
Which backyard?
He's probably got a few
of them.
A few.
Have we started the second session yet with,the match play?
I don't believe so.
I got thrown off there with Ludwig.
Oh, we got a nice spot here by UFC and are youa UFC
guy?
I'll watch it.
I can't.
I don't follow it too much, but if

(01:26:08):
you can't get into a putts?
I'll watch it.
I love the UFC.
Love it.
I'm obsessed.
It's the only thing I really gamble on otherthan golf because I'm terrible.
I do bet very badly on football.
Yeah.
Do you
gamble on football?
I love gambling on football.
You're just not good
at it.
I
just lost 2 bats by a half point.
I'm really oh, god.

(01:26:29):
Fucking idiots playing football.
See, I tried way too hard in other sports to gofor the underdog.
I'm just like, oh, this team has to come backand win.
No.
You lose every time.
I've never bet on an under.
I'm like, of course, I'll score over 50 points.
Thank you.
How could you not?
Damn horrible.
I gamble on, like, Russian ping pong at, like,1:30 in the morning when everybody's asleep.

(01:26:52):
Shit.
Oh, yeah.
Well, because some of the odds are crazy, youknow, and you don't know anything about it.
You might throw $10 in there and oh, fuck.
Alright.
I wonder what the sentiment is from theaudience in regards to people that are watching
right now with us as to do you guys like theTGL?
Like, what are you guys thinking about the TGL?
Do you like us covering it?

(01:27:12):
I mean, I don't know.
We we haven't really done this.
We've never done this before.
We've never done an actual, like, watch partycompanion show.
Forgot about commercials.
Maybe we should have commercial breaks.
You would love it.
You would
love it.
Oh, god,
dude.
Yeah.
I have to make my own.
I did see earlier where Kyle from Kart BarnGuys jumped on and he said, Butsy, is that a

(01:27:34):
sunburn or is that something else going on?
Oh, my skin?
Duh, that's melanoma.
Yeah.
Recently diagnosed.
It's something we're dealing with.
And,
Is that real?
That's not for real.
I'm sorry.
I laughed so hard.
I really hope it's not real.

(01:27:56):
Try not to get emotional about it.
But, yeah, it's it's real.
I'm just gonna forget that I left.
I'll show you.
I got, like, a tube of stuff that I have to puton.
It's
yeah.
Where is your tube?
I don't
it's prescription.
Not a sponsorship opportunity.
No.

(01:28:16):
Yeah.
Can we get that on the show?
We caught it early, but, you know, there's sideeffects and no.
I don't know.
It might be a little high blood pressure andsome weird lighting in here, and I look like
Donald Trump right now.
It was flash.
They're good.
I just saw, Justin Thomas tweeting at the boys,giving them some shit for New York golf club,
telling Ricky he needs to, start dropping thehammer.

(01:28:38):
Yeah.
He needs to.
Oh, here's the serpent.
Needs to get a haircut.
Look at this thing.
This is like my Cobra Kai jacket.
Look at that.
Yeah.
Now we're talking.
So this is not now it's just player versusplayer?
Yeah.
Yeah.
This might be more interesting for him
or something.
Let's go, guys.

(01:29:00):
Alright.
I think they've dicked around too much in the,alternate shot and intermission and stuff like
that.
Like, we only got 30 minutes left of airtimefor, the TGL here.
So they better get,
a little bit of
a move on.
15 holes.
Right?
6 so they only got 6 holes down.
They've got they played 9.
We're on hole 10, the serpent.

(01:29:20):
616 yards.
Rickie Fowler decided to wear his Bruce Jennershades.
Here we go.
Okay.
Mhmm.
Slick Rick.
Holy.
Where
is this one at?
Oh, he's
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
That's in the hazard.

(01:29:40):
Oh, hazard.
Oh, it's gonna kick
yeah.
You'll get a nice lay.
Yeah.
Nice lay.
Do they have a dirt pad that they hit off of?
Yeah.
I I think he's in the penalty.
They didn't say.
They, like like, roll out a tree that he has tohit around That's
what that far?
That's a great idea.
Right in front of him?
That could be really slick.

(01:30:01):
Get out.
Just put it on wheels.
Because now he has a fair line.
Yeah.
It doesn't translate.
That's a problem.
Let's
oh, he doesn't like it either.
He hit another pull hook.
My goal is to have the exact same beard at somepoint.
We're working on it.
Oh, he stayed out of the hazard.
K.
So the question is, are they going to let Rickyactually hit out of the hazard here?

(01:30:23):
We're about to find out.
Wind down.
Yeah.
Stop right there.
Somebody make a meme out of that.
Oh, boy.
That's a tough look.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Come on.

(01:30:44):
God, I feel like I'm watching the Jake PaulTyson fight.
Right?
Say.
Right?
Oh my god.
Nightmare.
I think they're running that back, maybe?
No.
It was brutal.
You think Mike would have knocked do you thinkMike threw the fight?
Yes.
For sure?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
He didn't wanna be in there.
No.
I did this for my kids.

(01:31:05):
Take a page.
Son, come over here.
They have a rules official here?
So this this is the guy that's helping himfigure out where he wants to hit his next shot.
Now Ricky oh, so he's gotta take a drop.
Okay.
He was in the hazard.
So now I mean, the this match is over.
This is just like watching the Yankees dominatethe Boston Red Sox.

(01:31:29):
K.
Did it again?
The only reason he does that is because we havea Red Sox fan on here.
Oh, this is fine.
Okay.
Alright.
Now we're running into a little dead end.
You think you think he's got a Sean here?
Shane Lowry just has to, put something up theresafe.

(01:31:51):
Knock it on into putt.
There's the dead air.
I was wondering if we're gonna get there.
Yeah.
A little dead air.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you just don't know.
Here we go.
Shane Lowry.
Stop it with the goddamn crickets.
I hate I'm deleting the shit out of thecrickets sound.
This one's just laid up.
Yeah.

(01:32:12):
Laid it up.
How far back you think he is?
Like, a 150?
165, probably.
Uh-oh.
He's about to roll down the hill.
He's rolling and rolling and rolling.
Is it gonna come to a stop?
We don't know.
There we go.
So what are they what are they, like, so keenon here?

(01:32:34):
What do you mean?
What are they paying attention?
Like, what are they
Oh, so you can aim using that monitor.
Okay.
So
that basically, all you have to do is hit adead straight to hit it at your target.
Gotcha.
So he could even go, like, left of the pin,right of the pin in terms of setting up his
target line.
Win a trip to see a match.
That guy's kinda like the caddy then.
Right?
Yeah.
Kinda.
Okay.

(01:32:54):
He's run okay.
That makes sense.
Here we go.
Oh, wow.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Looks like it's the number.
That's a good
Oh, that's a good call.
Getting better.
It's bringing it right in there.
Okay.
Yeah.
Slick Rick is
Uh-oh.
Oh, we lost sight of it.

(01:33:14):
That's been off the front?
Where is it?
Is it still moving?
Now Slick Rick.
Where is he hitting from?
He's got a hit from up there still.
Yeah.
Here we go.
Here's Slick Rick.
70 70 yards.
Just a smoothie out of Rick.

(01:33:35):
Oh, this looks good.
Can he put a little oh my gosh.
Just absolutely hammer fisted it.
Woah.
Holy shit.
Okay.
Just a solid hammer fist.
I mean, there can't be any pressure in theseshots.
Right?
I wouldn't think so.
Like

(01:33:56):
yeah.
That You
think?
Guy plays on tour.
You're just hitting it into a screen, like,it's not you're not staring at anything.
I mean
I I would like to think they're not feeling anyany heat out there.
No.
0.
Right?
Oh, I would fucking freak out.
I don't think I'd be able to do it.
I'd miss the screen.
Absolutely.
So one of the things that it would be arecommendation that I would have

(01:34:18):
fucking hammer.
And I get it that, like because there's 4players on each team.
Yeah.
We're only seeing 3 players from each.
There's no substitution of like your alternateplayer.
I feel like you should be able to sub in your4th guy.
So if somebody's struggling, like let's sayRicky Fowler's struggling heading into the
individual matches, I'd be like, alright.

(01:34:39):
Cam Young, you're coming in.
You're playing.
The whole Ryder Cup
coming in.
But I get why they don't do that is because ofscheduling.
Like, Cam Young isn't even on-site for thisbecause he's over he well, he played.
And They're really making sure though that thatshit is dialed.
I'm like
Oh, yeah.
How much does this kinda fuck with yourconfidence for next week?
Like, I just sucked on TGL.

(01:35:01):
Yeah.
I missed the green on the simulator 12 times.
Like Double bogey.
Oh my
god.
Serpent.
They're they gotta be like, the guys gotta betalking about this.
Right?
Yeah.
The next tour event.
Oh, this is Oh, that
was that was classy.
Okay.
Oh.
Wow.
See, but this is not, like, a a real greencomplex.

(01:35:24):
No.
But I think that's what is interesting aboutit.
Right?
That it doesn't have to be like what we seeoutside.
Like there's some quirkiness to this.
I'll say.
For sure.
Yeah.
It's different.
Like, they definitely made some prettyinteresting green complexes because look at
that slope that's up there.
So he gave him that for what?
Par?
No.

(01:35:44):
For bogey.
For bogey.
Yeah.
And he's gonna make him putt this?
Slick, Rick.
Come on, man.
Let's just move this to the ball.
Gotta be what they're talking about.
We only got, what, 25 minutes left of airtimehere?
Yeah.
You wanna see this?
We gotta keep this going.
He's got 2 putts to win the damn match, Rick.
Oh.
Yeah.
Ricky said, f earpud.
Oh, thank

(01:36:04):
you.
Throwing the flag in front of him.
Man.
And just trying to get a little bit of justsome
Viewership.
Yeah.
Let's go.
He should have done the Kim thing where he putshis putter down.
No?
It's good.
I was just finding it.
He should've just walked up there and justsmoked it.
Yeah.
Like, like, into the

(01:36:24):
Right off the green.
Like, go get it, Shane Lowry.
Okay.
The flag was cute, though.
Very cute.
Bay wins match.
Alright.
Easy money.
Yeah.
Well, that's the thing.
Like, do well, they have to keep playingbecause of how the points are done for the
season.
Right?
I don't know.
The first tie breaker in TGL is total holeswon.

(01:36:48):
Yeah.
So that all goes into the postseason.
Okay.
Into your standings.
Because you're just racking up scoring.
Yeah.
It'll matter at the end.
Yep.
Okay.
When will we get home venues for each team?
So I did talk with the president from LAGC inregards to this.
And their plan is that it's not just going tobe Jupiter that in years to come, every

(01:37:13):
facility is going to have their home base andtheir home stadium.
Yeah.
So that is in the plants.
Neil Hubman, by the way, is the president ofLAGC, who I interviewed previously.
Go check that out.
That was actually before the cancellation oflast season.
Would you where's your bet going on thatactually coming to fruition?
Oh.

(01:37:33):
Yeah.
Huge odds.
Do you
do we get there?
Yeah.
I'm still trying to figure out, the purpose ofTGL.
Right?
Yeah.
Like, you're missing all the good things aboutgolf, the course.
Right?
You're playing the course.
And I think just like the cinematics of golf,when you're watching on TV, the ball flight
Yeah.
The guys having to walk, deal with shit, up anddown pacing around.

(01:37:54):
I
The, You
don't even get to see the ball fight.
Right?
You just they're gone.
You're just like, okay.
No idea where he is.
I don't know for me is
You see that?
My lack of interest right now in it is more sothat bay club just absolutely wipes the floor
with New York golf club.
Like I lost interest from a competitivestandpoint because it was just a blowout.

(01:38:16):
Like this could be potentially the worst thingthat could happen to TGL because New York golf
club just absolutely got swept, basically.
I'm just imagining myself in the kitchencooking and going, oh, yeah.
That's on.
I better get over and turn it on.
I don't know if I'm doing that.
This is easy money on a Tuesday night now.
Yeah.

(01:38:36):
Yeah.
Easy money.
I don't know if I'm, like, running to thecouch, though.
Like, I remember it's on, and I gotta go watchit.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's not like the Pull Hood Golf podcast, youknow, where you're like, shit.
It's on.
I gotta get over there and watch this.
I gotta chime in.
Oh, alright.
Let's see where Geelong hits it here.
Oh, yeah.
It's a tight little cutter right down themiddle.
Matt, don't call him Matthew Fitzpatrick.

(01:38:58):
He just put it right into He's not.
The shooter.
Little SpaceX there.
Right up the middle.
Right up the pipe.
So now it's these 2.
Yep.
So they have to play all 15 holes even thoughthey lost.
Fuck the DJ college there.
No.
I don't fucking do that.

(01:39:19):
Are they flying back to Hawaii to play any ofthese guys?
No.
Oh, that's a good no.
The travel aspect is Didn't say.
Guys are always on the road.
So Matt
is another element of that?
There were 4 guys that played in Hawaii thatflew back.
Matt Fitzpatrick was the first one.
He flew back and got in.
So he left Sunday night, got in Monday morning

(01:39:40):
k.
To Jupiter, and then the rest kind of followedsuit later on.
But he he was actually working hard, on, like,pitches in the sand and everything in order to
get a feel for it.
You think he's just continuing to repeat we thebest?
Yeah.
He's talking out of
his ass right now.
Absolutely.
Oh, man.
If we're not first found golf, we the best.

(01:40:01):
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Sit down.
Alright.
Fitzpatrick almost hit it off the cliff.
He's shaking
his head.
Golf has landed DJ Khaled.
Yeah.
This is the part where is it good for the game?
It's I struggle with the game
Yeah.
I think.
I struggle with that.
Like, even seeing, like, sauce Gardner from theNew York Jets.

(01:40:24):
Yeah.
All of a sudden becoming a personality onTwitter and Instagram playing golf.
Yeah.
And it's like, alright.
This crossover, like, I like it to a degree,but there's just some that stand out like DJ
Cal.
It just it's too much for me.
I like the fact that golf's letting its hairdown, you know, like, that's the brand.
Right?

(01:40:44):
Like, that's the whole deal, but then there'sthis whole other spectacle golf.
And, not sure about it.
Red Sox fan wants to know when is the nextmatch.
So next Tuesday.
So it's only it's just kinda like the well,normally with other sports, you have every team
playing at the same time.
You only got 1 or 2 teams playing every Tuesdaynight.

(01:41:07):
Yeah.
Tuesday night golf.
Yeah.
This is it right here.
DJ Collin.
He's probably producing a track for the Tuesdaynight song.
Oh, you would you would think.
You would also think that they put him on herebecause they're like, hey, man.
We need to kill a lot of dead space right now.
We're like, this match is over.
Nobody gives a shit.
Get DJ Caledon.
Let's interview him.
It's short trip down from Miami.

(01:41:30):
He's probably the perfect person, though,because, like, you're not gonna run out of him
talking.
He's not gonna stop.
Yeah.
So we've seen really good golf out of the BayClub, and we've seen really shit golf
in New
York Golf Club.
Okay.
Like, this is exposing that like, guys, youshould have practiced on here a little bit
more.
Yeah.
Some idea of what like, how the ball's gonnareact on this, synthetic green.

(01:41:54):
Yeah.
The worst is around the greens, isn't it?
We got some keepers over there.
I saw a couple of brooms out cleaning up somedivots.
Well, see the shoe that's why I asked you aboutshoes.
Like,
shoes Skechers.
Still have a long way to go.
Yeah.
In the golf world?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I agree.
Like, it's either that or or Jordan's.

(01:42:16):
Well It's kinda And Jordan's
suck to play in.
Let's be honest.
Like, I'm slipping Yes.
All around.
The new ones do have spikes, though.
The new,
I plan the 1, like, the Lowe's.
Yeah.
And the yeah.
They're slippery.
They are.
That's what I'm saying though.
The the new lows that are coming out, they gota spike on them.
What's that?
Okay.
No good?
You don't like them?

(01:42:37):
You barefoot?
My favorite's my Jordan twelves because theyactually have real golf spikes on there.
I'm playing hiking shoes, dude.
Wow.
Do you really?
Dorky.
I wear an all terrain shoe.
Not today.
But
Yeah.
You get your cons on there.
Man.
I got I got inserts in my all terrains.
I play golf in them.
They're the traction is unbelievable.
What kind
of we're not talking like a Wolverine boot.

(01:42:58):
No, dude.
It's like a like a trail running shoe.
Like a trail shoe.
A trail shoe is whatever.
I immediately use that one.
I immediately use that one.
Okay.
Like the ROTC kid in high school.
Like, what yeah.
Carry a backpack.
I play golf.
You got the laces around the top.
Keep them tight.
These are trail
shoes, man, that actually kinda work out betterthan golf shoes.
It's wild.
So there's a good question from Blake Bertrand.

(01:43:19):
K.
Where do they see entertainment value with thisgolf celebrities?
Where's the dancers, intermissionentertainment.
Do you think that they should add somecheerleaders to this?
Absolutely.
I mean, I've never heard anything.
Like, could you imagine a bikini Laden femaleholding a sign that says whole number 10?

(01:43:40):
Some shine.
They should
be throwing the
kitchen sink.
Missing an opportunity there.
This is just Ricky standing around, and then wegot a little brief aside from DJ Khaled.
Yeah.
They should let Tiger hire the ring girls.
Oh, that's a good idea.
You have some busted looking Hey.
This is more entertainment.
I see him, like, what he's up to.
This is the special director with Tiger Woods.

(01:44:02):
Takes them out.
Tiger, what did you look for her her in thisparticular one?
Well, her her sandbags were massive.
I staged that.
I'm gonna fuck this up and do what I told you.
Alright.
I agree with that, Gator.
They where is the entertainment aspect?
Like, maybe some pyros when they hit it wouldbe tight?

(01:44:23):
Why not?
That's the goal, right, is to make this
There is that sound, Jordan, on there.
Good shot there.
Pew, Pew, Pew.
I think it's the, try it.
The air horn.
Yeah.
There we go.
Love that.
Alright.
Yeah.
I'm not sure.

(01:44:43):
I'm I'm losing steam here as this goes on.
Like, I don't love the fact that they stillhave to play all 15 holes.
It's over.
Right?
Yeah.
It's just okay.
We're just
Oh, and then now we're calling a goddamn timeout.
They're isolated.
Calling a time out?
Oh, dear lord.
The shot clock is still going.

(01:45:04):
I wanna, put a poll on this on Instagram whenwe post, like, some of the clips.
You know?
I really wanna know what people think about it.
Apparently, Austin Whittington said lots of xposts about the TGL right now.
Yeah.
So on x, it's going wild.
X is wild.
Mhmm.
X is wild.
Off of x, dude.

(01:45:25):
You're getting a radical Wild.
5 minutes.
Yeah.
Dude, I I gotta be honest.
It is my guilty pleasure.
I I go to bat.
I used to do it a lot more when building thepole hook golf account.
Now we got over, like, 4,000 followers onthere.
But I started, and I got into the weeds withpeople.
Josh fucking battling.
There would be a threat of, like, 58 commentsgoing back and forth.

(01:45:48):
No.
You're a little bitch.
No.
You're a bitch.
Send in jabs.
Send in jabs.
It's so funny.
Now I just laugh at it all.
It's hilarious.
I never understood that.
Who who's got this time?
Oh, there's those guys.
Oh, yeah.
That's the that's the entertainment.
Right?
That's what they're
It is.
I just go to read what people are, like,bashing each other out.

(01:46:08):
It's like lighting a car on fire.
That's what a Twitter is.
Yes.
Or x, whatever.
You just walk away from it.
You go
and just you skim through.
You're not even looking at your
Twitter is a wild place.
I still call it Twitter.
Yeah.
You have to.
It'll always be Twitter.
That's the virtual green.
So those are all the pistons
Oh, that's
that raise up.
What do we keep seeing this, like, squid gamething here?

(01:46:29):
What is that?
Oh, I just started
watching the ball.
Opponent.
Some sort of they need obstacles at least.
I don't know.
You gotta get them off your
game.
Something.
Let's fuck with them a little bit.
See how they play that way.
That's why the base
Off of the green.
He's chipping.
I love what you said though.
Like, if a guy hits it behind a tree, fuckinghuge tree.
Rolling out of the sand.
Yeah.
Literally.

(01:46:49):
Xander, you can't spin it, bro.
He's just fucking with him now, man.
This
is so What is that?
Xander, you can't spin it on this artificialturd.
Stupid
on that.
Yeah.
Fuck.
It's stupid on me.
I'm sorry.
Xander.
What
do you think Tiger's thinking right now?
He's going, oh, shit.
We had a really good product at the beginningof the night, And then all of a sudden the guy

(01:47:13):
started playing.
Yeah.
And this blowout is not good.
I'm telling you right now, it is not good forany sport.
Like watching as Xander softly.
Yeah.
This is not good.
I'll pick it up.
Okay.
Yeah.
This is just a fun deal.
Let's get out of here.
Like,
yeah, it concedes the whole, like, this iswhere it becomes a gimmick, right?

(01:47:34):
All of a sudden you start seeing this type ofplay.
You start to see that it's the entertainmentvalue is starting to fade a bit.
It's tough because I was all about this.
I still think, I mean, maybe it's a,
I gotta see.
I gotta give it more time.
You're absolutely right.
Because if we give it more time and there's acompetitive match and it comes down to the

(01:47:56):
final couple holes, that could be exciting.
But I've lost complete interest as soon as itwas a blowout.
Just like any other sport.
If I'm even if I'm watching my own team.
I think there's there's things I could do.
Alright.
Or just do, like, a bunch of challenges.
Like, alright.
Everybody's hitting an 8 iron and do a part 3here, and then, okay, now we got 3 wood.
You know?
I don't know.

(01:48:17):
Like, a closest to the pin.
Yeah.
I mean, when
you delete the golf course in golf, that's, Imean, that's You're right.
What golf is about.
It's it's a guy versus the course.
Right?
Yeah.
And that component's completely gone.
Mhmm.
What is this?
I think you you make it more like Mario Kart.
Throw some shit in there.
Exactly.
Like, some variables.
Get a booster drive.

(01:48:38):
Oh, yeah.
You get, like, a power up?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or maybe there's like a like a spot in thescreen where if they hit a chair, it goes
another 50 hours.
Horrible.
Yeah.
Now we're getting somewhere, Tiger.
Dude.
That's a good idea.
Sorry.
I'm just checking out all the cool gear.
But Callaway's getting their ads in, so we gotthat.

(01:48:59):
Yeah.
The money's there.
That's how we're making money, boys.
There it is.
Auto concede.
Like, if you hit it inside 3 feet, this hole,it's automatically you know, I don't know.
10 feet, it's good.
Oh, they automatically win the hole.
Okay.
How often do you guys change drivers?
Rare.
Rare?
Every year.

(01:49:20):
Yeah.
You Every year.
Mhmm.
Is that because you why?
Why?
Because someone's giving you something new totry out?
Or Because because it's free for a little.
Because it's free.
Dude, I think they lose pop, though.
Like, if you're out hitting them a lot,especially hitting range balls with them, I
think that they lose pop over time.
I I really do.
And that just might be a mental thing of myown, but

(01:49:43):
No.
You gotta break them in.
I have stopped hitting range balls with mydriver, though.
Yes.
That that you should.
Yes.
Like, you should only hit your driver in asimulator with a golf ball that you own.
Yeah.
Yep.
Okay.
Like, you will ruin the face with range balls.
Mhmm.
And they got sand stuck to them and shit too.

(01:50:06):
And yeah.
About once a year.
I saw your driver.
You're still playing like a
Oh, yeah.
I do.
This is a massive
3 from, like Yeah.
It's like o 8.
He's playing
a 510TP.
And Fuck.
That was a good driver.
Have on the 1.
That was a really good driver.
Okay.
Let's get back to the golf here.
Yeah.
See, this is
what I'm talking about.

(01:50:26):
We're, like, now we're just, like, trying toget through it.
Right?
Yeah.
I I'm I'm fatigued at this point.
Mentally fatigued.
I don't even know what else to talk about withthis goddamn TGL.
I really don't.
I've lost complete interest in it.
That's why I had started, I started likegetting some add action here.

(01:50:48):
And I'm like, oh shit, this is what I'm wearingright now underneath, by the way, underneath
the cardigan, is this polo, which I mean, this,you could rock at the country club and all of a
sudden you're
going to piss
him off.
You walk away.
You walk away.
It's going
to be like, are you fucking your generation?
Right?
You're like, yes.

(01:51:08):
Sorry, man.
That's so dope.
It's like the shirt version of a mullet.
Oh, shit.
It's like business in the front part You
guys didn't have this when I was in the lasttown.
That's pretty That's part of that southwest.
That's money.
Yeah.
Damn.
I like that.
I like the problem is I come in here and I'mlike, I like too much of your stuff.
That's the problem.

(01:51:29):
It's a good problem.
Because I just wanna steal everything.
Blake Bertrand, also a huge shout out to Devro.
Love what y'all are doing with the golfclothing space.
Keep it up.
Fire emoji.
Hey.
Thanks, guy.
Hey.
There you go.
I like that guy.
Yeah.
Blake Bertrand, great guy.
Love that guy.

(01:51:51):
I mean, outside of TGO, we could, the tourthough.
I mean, tour is back.
Right?
So that's the
tour is back.
We we got events going on again.
I mean, so actually we could talk about it,with the Sony open coming up, coming up, which
one of the best clubs that they play all yearis why lie country club.
That's a great, that's better than Kapalua.

(01:52:13):
In my opinion, a little bit more difficult, alittle bit tighter, totally different golf
course.
So it's a par 70 7,044 yards.
So it plays relatively long.
And if the winds get going, a guy like, Brian,Harmon's going to have a tough time out there.
Okay.
So who you got this week?
So that's the thing.

(01:52:33):
We've got some player odds this week.
You ready for this, Putsey?
Hop on in.
Put your headphones on.
Let's get dialed in for the Sony Open since,the TGL has really left us here with, just
blank minds.
But the player odds for the Sony, you've gotHideki Matsuyama, obviously, is the favorite.

(01:52:53):
So young.
Plus 900.
Yep.
You got Corey Conners at plus 1400.
Got Tom Kim and Russell Henley at plus 2,000Keegan Bradley, plus 25100 Maverick McNeely,
which had the breakout win last year, plus28100 along with Ben on you got Si Woo Kim,
Robert McIntyre, Luke Clayton at plus 3,000.

(01:53:13):
So Heath, the gala, JT Poston, Taylor,Pendrick, and Austin echo at plus 35100 and
then plus 4,000.
You got Kirk Kitayama, Davis Thompson, plus5,000.
You got set struck a Harry hall, Ben Griffin,Denny McCarthy.
So, but see, why don't we start with you withthe year pick?
I didn't catch the first, the 2 favorite.

(01:53:36):
So Matsayama and Corey Conners are the 2favorites.
Oh, man.
Which both both played great, obviously, lastweek.
Is, is Tony in the field?
Tony Finau?
No.
No.
Let me see this real quick.
I'm drawing a link.
I'm trying a 1.
In the field.
Yep.
I the yeah.
Little help there, but I'm I gotta go.
Sahith, I think.

(01:53:56):
I'll get that.
There you go.
Bert, what about you?
I'm like in Sahith.
I don't
know why.
Alright.
I just I just wanna see it.
Let's put some money on them.
Yeah.
We just won money on the the bay the bay You'reyou're rich.
Even money.
Right?
You are rich.
Even money.
Fuck.
He
looks weird.
Ricky threw this for me.
It's like a Winona ride.
Before.

(01:54:16):
It's tough.
It's a tough look tonight for Rick.
He's not doing that on the course.
So do you think he's rolling up with No.
Like, this the glass.
I got
Well, maybe.
No.
No.
He's not wearing goggles.
He's not wearing goggles out there.
No.
I've done that.
It's a bad look.
He's he's the full Well,
because I'm blind.
I wear glasses.
The goggles.
Oh, yeah.
I tried to play, and I was, like, this is gonnamake my game better.

(01:54:37):
It it did.
Absolutely.
Because my depth perception, like,
got better.
But I was, like, I can't just always look likethis playing golf ball.
Did you You can't get it full.
So I'd
rather be shitty and go off than wear glasseson the golf balls.
Did you speaking of style here.
Like, I
can't talk to wear these.
Hang on.
What if you went to the Horace Grant style justgoggles?
I wore those as a kid.
That's yeah.

(01:54:57):
That could be that could be Monty out there onthe golf course with the right style.
Man wearing (1h 45 ms

45s) (01:55:05):
I am going to go, I believe.
Can you check this for me?
Jordan is, oh gosh.
The rookie of the year is he playing?
Why, why am I blanking on his name?
I took a magic mine.
No, go ahead and click that tab and
I liked that guy's comment.
Go ahead and pull,

(01:55:26):
hi.
Oh.
Oh, that's nice.
Okay.
We're back.
Have you guys talked about doing, like, a big
Nick Dunlap.
Is he playing this week?
Yeah.
Big golf tournament.
You like the Dunlap?
Listen.
If he's in the field, I like him early on.
I I do believe in circadian rhythms for theseguys to where they play well at given times of

(01:55:50):
year.
And remember, he won the American Express,which is next week.
Yeah.
Yes,
sir.
He is.
Okay.
I'm gonna go with Nick Dunlap.
He wasn't even in the top odds.
He won
at the beginning and then at the end.
Right?
Yeah.
So he won 2.
Yep.
So a small bet on him might be good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And listen, you can't win them all unless youwin the first one, and goddamn it.
I won the first one with Hideki Matsuyama.

(01:56:13):
Matsuyama.
Hell of a player.
Would you eat hang on.
Let let's see what Liv sushi bar calledMatsuyama.
Yeah.
I would.
I would have a lot of faith in a sushi barnamed Matsuyama.
I think so.
Anti live.
Let's see that comment right there.
Yeah.
So the one about live taken out.
Yeah.
Live should immediately transform the TGL andbe the live conference and PGA conference super

(01:56:36):
bowl SIM golf championship.
Now that would be interesting because what,what other sport that was basketball, right?
With the ABA and the NBA.
Kyle's pretty good at these picks.
I think it also happened with the NFL.
Right?
To where they merge 2 leagues together.
NFL NFL.
That's an ultimate troll comment, though.

(01:56:58):
I know.
Missus stroll it hard.
Oh, shit.
Nick Taylor, though.
Kyle, that's that's probably pretty strong.
Nick Taylor, the Canadian.
Yeah.
Kyle backed out on a Fuck.
Colin this week.
I think you had Colin.
Right?
And you got to buy out early, make some moneyon Saturday.
Well, if you follow Matsuyama at all, you knowthat he if he's got a lead, like, he's a great

(01:57:22):
front runner.
Yeah.
Like, he's not gonna lose that lead.
He has closed 3 tournaments, and now it's 4tournaments, I believe.
Having the 54 hole, lead, he has not lost afterholding the 54 hole lead.
He gets it done.
Gets it done.
He's Matsuyama.
I mean,
he's fucking good.
He's good.
I mean, how many shots by the way, that'd be agreat drinking game if you're gonna watch the

(01:57:44):
PGA tour and Matsuyama is in the league.
Up on
the TGA.
Oh, yeah.
That that's completely done.
Completely done.
It is it is dead to me right now, the TGA.
I don't know if it'll ever recover for me.
I was so big on the TGL heading into this, butgoing back to Matsuyama, great drinking game.
If he's ever in contention and they're showinghim a lot on TV, take a shot every time he does

(01:58:06):
a one handed finish.
You'd be dead.
You would you would have a tough time gettingthrough that day.
How much do a a Johnny Walker challenge on thegolf course?
Like, you would have to design it where you'redrinking it frequently, but not so much that,
like, you can't
get That you
would die.
Or maybe that's what you want.
I will I will give them a lot of credit.

(01:58:26):
They they did go out and create, like,specialty drinks for the golf course.
Okay.
So they have a Johnny Palmer, which is Oh.
They're all horrible with Oh.
Johnny Walker black.
That.
Oh.
And then they they made, like, this other kindof, like, spritz type of cocktail.
That is dangerous.
You will hammer them.
Like, you can't taste it.
Like Yeah.
We're doing an event with them at Putt Shackbefore the waste management.

(01:58:47):
Okay.
Come out.
Yeah.
Maybe we run that pot.
I'll talk to them about that.
Their drinks are really good.
They have, like, their main guy that does all,like, the mixology, creates these drinks and
these recipes.
Uh-huh.
So I we did a the colonial last year with them.
They had a big booth and serving the newcocktails that You get you get going on them.
They're really good.

(01:59:07):
And then you end with, of course, they have theJohnnie Walker blue that they also serve
alongside of it.
So you gotta start light, and then you end upthere.
You're talking my favorite right there.
My favorite Scotch and big Scotch drinker.
It's good.
Love Johnnie Walker blue.
It's good.
But we can't drink that straight all day.
Oh, I will.
You'd you'd be Well,
that could be the challenge.
I would just drink Johnny Walker Blue my wholeday.

(01:59:28):
That could be the challenge.
You get to force them to finish off a bottle, Ithink you're fine.
Yeah.
Because it's good.
It's quality stuff.
Yeah.
Oh, it's delicious.
Shit.
Right?
It's the best.
So we're feeling a little better aboutourselves.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
Because you're probably not gonna chug itanyway because it is good.
Like, you're sipping that shit all day.
Yeah.
It's Yeah.
It's not cheap.
Right?
No.
Oh.
I'll sip a little bit.

(01:59:48):
That's a that's a 2.50 bottle right there.
$250.
What's the most expensive one?
The blue.
The blue.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
That'll be we maybe we do that.
Let's go out and and make that challenge.
I would love that.
Maybe film it and see what happens.
My favorite Scotch.
Yeah.
See how badly we end Yeah.
In 2018?
Or how much We're 9 holes.
Who I mean, what can the challenge be?

(02:00:11):
Maybe we have to sit through a TGL and drink abottle of Scott.
I think that is we might have to do anotherwatch party.
You're not far off.
Worth the TGL.
Well, it's 2 hours.
Right?
So that's 9 holes basically out on the golfcourse.
4 guys kill a bottle in 9 holes.
Gotta do it.
It's gotta be equal parts.
Oh, yeah.
That's easy.
Yeah.
It's easy.
Because if you get that, that's easy.

(02:00:32):
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Every every guy kills his own bottle.
Oh.
Oh.
Now you're talking holes.
Now you're talking death.
I don't think so.
You're not survive you're not coming back fromthat.
Actually, but he and I can attest that it canbe done because we did it with some whiskey on

(02:00:54):
our waste management show last year, and weeach killed a bottle
On the pod.
On the pod.
Nice.
Like, it got to the point to where you couldn'tquite hear what was happening anymore.
Like, a lot of the fucking oh, these guys arefucking flares, dude.
Oh, man.
I can't believe the waste management islooming.

(02:01:16):
It is.
It's coming up.
This is the 1st year I'm, like, in depressionabout it.
So you're doing and you guys doing a drop forit?
Yeah.
I'm doing a couple of drops for it.
We do the we do the 16 hole run club.
So on Saturday morning when everybody
Yeah.
They will get up
and we'll go run.
Yeah.
So we do a a collection for that, and send alot of guys to go do the run.
So that's that's kind of a fun thing that wedo, but then we're also doing a drop with

(02:01:42):
Johnny Walker for the waste management open.
That's the putt check thing?
Yeah.
We're doing a party before that, but we have awhole, like, apparel and accessories that come
out February 3rd before the waste management.
Nice.
So we
have a suite on 16.
Oh, fun.
How that goes.
We know how that goes.
That's always a big time, but it is it's a it'sa lot.

(02:02:04):
For anybody that has not experienced, you haveto experience that.
Yes.
It's a fun
time.
The first time I got a ticket and and watchedthe tournament from up there in an in a box
Yeah.
Where you got the food and the drinks all day,you you don't wanna do it any other way.
Like, you don't wanna go
Not with those crowds.
Right?
You get to hide in the crowd a little bit.
You have your own kind of personal bar.

(02:02:24):
Yeah.
You get you get 10 rips, but who's counting?
And, yeah, they never do.
And they serve food all day.
So
Yeah.
That's the way to do it.
There's a smoking patio.
Yeah.
You're just yelling at people.
It's fucking the energy's up.
Lot of gambling going on.
Last year was Lot of gambling.
Lot of gambling.
Yeah.
Last year was brutal.
We got a bad rap from last year.
Did we have weather last year?

(02:02:45):
Oh, yeah.
Wasn't it a mud fest?
It was a mud fest.
Yeah.
I ruined a good pair of Jordans that way.
I think it looked worse on camera.
Everyone's just assuming these people werefucked up, which they probably were, but they
were slipping a lot.
Falling
down.
Yeah.
There's a lot of hills out there.
Uh-oh.
This is the 729 yarder you were gonna
have for a while.
This is the last hole.

(02:03:05):
Thank god.
Okay.
Oh my god.
TGL.
Can't wait for next week.
My question, what does TGL stand for?
Tomorrow Golf League.
Okay.
You
would think it was
Tiger Golf League.
Yeah.
Tiger's Golf League, basically.
Tomorrow.
But it stands for Tomorrow Golf League.
We're gonna get a rip out of him here?

(02:03:27):
I hope so.
I just fucking let it go.
It's good.
It's gotta be.
It's a
good swing.
Oh, yeah.
You do realize though that when Tiger is goingto play, that he might dominate at this because
he's had full swing golf simulators for a longtime.
Knows the little quirks like
Yeah.

(02:03:47):
I think Tiger might actually be the hidden gemout of all these guys.
Man, he's him.
He's Tiger Woods.
Yeah.
And he doesn't have to move.
Yeah.
He's yeah.
Watching these guys You're
just bobbing around.
Yeah.
I'm watching these guys, like, dribble the golfball across the green line.
It's kinda like, oh, okay.
I like that.
Xander just looks disheveled right now.

(02:04:09):
Did he chunk this?
Yeah.
I did.
Let me hit that little hand.
He actually chunked it.
Oh, he's done.
He's like, get me out of fucking play.
Get me out of this place.
How long do I have to do this for?
What am I signed up for?
Can Cam Young replace me next week?
You said it early, like, this is a fun deal,but would this somehow kinda fuck with you a

(02:04:30):
little bit?
It can kill your confidence.
Like, coming into it, like, alright.
Ricky's 1st bunker shot back is gonna be Igotta watch that.
Yeah.
I think it does kinda fuck with yourconfidence.
It has to.
Right?
I mean, shit.
Not that these guys get too rattled, but I alsoI I'm more, like, concerned about, like, the
traveling back and forth.
They come here to do this.

(02:04:51):
Mhmm.
And then back on the plane.
4 hour flight, whatever.
It's not like they need this.
No.
Sure they were compensated, like, for it.
But Gotta be pretty good.
Hot Mike.
Well, everybody signed contracts.
Like, each team has a real owner.
Like, Steve Cohen, the owner of the Mets, ownsNew York Golf Club.
K.
The Bay Club, I forget who owns that one.

(02:05:15):
But you got, like, Arthur Blank owns theAtlanta Drive.
He owns the Falcons.
You've got, Boston Common is owned by theFenway Group.
So all the Boston sports basically andpenguins, and there's a few others.
Do you think the players lose interest, though?

(02:05:36):
Dude, Xander's because
they've already lost interest.
Xander's already lost interest.
Like, Xander stopped.
Like, Xander might not.
We may never see Xander play this again.
This might be his one and done.
Yeah.
It doesn't like,
so there's 4 players.
It could be like, Hey, I'm cam young.
You're you're playing in every event movingforward with, Matt Fitzpatrick.

(02:05:57):
Don't call him Matthew.
And what we learned today is, what's her nameagain?
Jenner.
Ricky, Jenna.
Ricky, Jenna is, playing out there, but thatwas classic.
Man.
Their I
don't know.
No.
They're the so they're all under contract foreach team.
No.

(02:06:17):
But what do you say?
Like, do you do you have to play, like, a thirdparty?
Don't know.
And none of these guys wanna piss off big daddytiger.
Right?
No.
No.
That's that's the question, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't you don't go against Tiger.
You're never gonna see the light of day again.
Amen.
I get it.
It's kinda like the tiger mafia.
Have, like, his minions, Like, his
The tour has quickly become Tiger Woods' tour.

(02:06:39):
Yeah.
But Scott is not part of this, is he?
I understand.
No.
He's not fucking around with this.
Rom was supposed to be, I think, right,originally.
Before he decided to go to live.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Yeah.
That guy looks like he really loved
it.
Yeah.
He he's like, no.
You know what he's excited for?
Fuck it over.
It's
time to go home.
Alright.
Let's get over.
Holy shit.

(02:06:59):
It's like sitting at a little league game.
Man.
I'm a be on x tonight now.
Damn it.
9 to 2.
Gonna
be dialed on.
I'm a be on x.
You gotta know what people are saying aboutthis.
Well, now that and you tuned in for the wholething.
This has been really dark and
kind of seconds.
Oh, yeah.
Have has Grassley reached out to you guys to doanything?
Are you you guys?

(02:07:19):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've talked to Grassley.
Yeah.
Okay.
I love what those guys are doing.
It's pretty expensive what they're asking forin sponsorships, but
Yeah.
That's that was my next question.
It's kinda audacious.
I just feel like there would be a cool collabthere with you guys.
I did an event over there that was oh, youthink you came out?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was awesome.
It's a great place for an event.
Get get the guys out.
I love that area.

(02:07:41):
Well, I think that, just about wraps up.
Can we hit the, theme music for our outro here?
Turn it up.
Oh, yeah.
Hey.
We didn't know.
No one knew.
We didn't know.
No one.
Now we know.

(02:08:05):
Shit.
Yeah.
I'm still just I'm
I don't know how I feel about it.
I really don't.
I'm gonna have to see the next match.
If it's competitive and we get some goodmatches going on, I just you could tell Xander
was done with it.
He was like, fuck this shit.
You got, Matt Fitzpatrick looked like he hadjust been embarrassed in the 3rd grade.
He's not fucking
funny.
Like somebody somebody pulled down his pantsand he's like, so like his cheeks were all red

(02:08:29):
and he was really, really embarrassed outthere.
And then you got, Rickie Fowler who we didn'teven recognize him at first.
No.
Thought he was a Jenner.
I don't think we do another, pull hook watchparty of it, though.
Yeah.
I I think this is I think this is a one anddone for the TGO.
Man.

(02:08:51):
I wonder what the announcing's like.
I and that's the other that's the other thing.
Did did it help at all?
Would we have had a different perception of itif we got to hear what they were saying?
Well, next week, we'll we'll get a chancebecause it's at 5 o'clock east I believe,
eastern.
It was more boring to watch than real golf, andthat's fucking crazy.
Like like you said, you took all the yeah.

(02:09:12):
It was cool in the beginning.
I feel like I don't know.
For how long?
Because it was a
I keep going back to the fact that if it was abetter match, I might have been more into it,
but it just looked like guys started quitting.
It just became a joke.
This is our highlight reel right here, but
we'll watch it when tiger gets on.
Who are we kidding?
Right?
Oh, 100%.

(02:09:33):
I hope tiger dominates and that we all are justlocked in to the TGL.
We'll actually, that'll be our 2nd watchparties with tiger.
I started dominating.
You'd watch tiger at golf land, sun splash.
1 (1h 20 ms 20s):
Is he get a vote for the highlights?
Oh yeah.
Here we go.
All right.
Peace out.
Everybody.
8 town down.

(02:09:53):
Hit that in stream for me.
Hit it one more time afterwards.
I appreciate you.
Appreciate everybody out there.
Thanks again.
Oh, absolutely.