Survivor Series 2024 - Ep63

"The Proper Prick" CJ Newman and "The PA Rock Prince" RW Hellborn are two punks who talk about wrestling, and this week they're talking about the 2024 Survivor Series: War Games

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to Pump's Talk Wrestling!

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On this episode, we completely ignore that we skipped last week's review review of Survivor
Series 2011 as we talk about everything that's happened at this year's WWE Survivor Series
War Games!
I am R.W.
Hellborn, the P.A.
Rock Prince, hailing quote unquote from Philly!

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And I am one half of the crown, which is one half of your Pump's Talk Wrestling Inter-Universal
Tag Team Podcast Champion, house of the world!
Now then, and forever by my side, 3500 miles away in London, England, he is my Tag Team

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Podcast Partner, he is the other half of the crown, which is the other half of your Pump's
Talk Wrestling Inter-Universal Tag Team Podcast Champion, house of the world!
Mr. Did You Know, Sir King of Reels, the proper prick, CJ Newman!

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Did you know that in Survivor Series history, there have been only two people who have been
the sole survivor three times in their career?
You have 30 seconds to tell me who those two superstars are.

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Oh, fuck, I didn't even hear the question, what?
Oh, you son of a bitch.
There are three people who have been sole survivor, sorry, fuck, start again, there
are two superstars who have been sole survivor three times.
Who are those two people?
You have 30 seconds.
Randy Orton.
Yep.
And John Cena.

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No.
Honky Tonk Man.
No.
Andre the Giant.
Kurt Angle.
No.
Diesel.
No.
Edge.
No.
Band, you're out of time.

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Hulk Hogan?
No.
So, the two people are of course Randy Orton and Ultimate Warrior.
Oh, now, what makes it even more intriguing and kind of a digibonus in a way, both of these

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bonus right off the back of the bonus.
To both of both Randy Orton and Ultimate Warrior, obviously three time sole survivors, they both
did it three years in a row.
Randy Orton did it 2003, four and five and Ultimate Warrior did it 1988, 89 and 90.

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Oh shit, that is a digibonus.
Yeah.
So, they both did it three in a row, both times, all three times they were sole survivors.
So, that's pretty interesting.
How many times were you sole survivor in the Survivor Series match?
Me?
Yeah.
Every year.

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Every year.
Damn.
Yeah.
That's a great record.
Yeah, I mean, I've done it the most times, but these guys have only done it three.
So, they're recognized.
Yeah, and it's impressive, but I've done like, I've lost count.
I don't know how many it's been.
Yeah, you've done so many of them.

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Yeah, honestly.
Every day is a Survivor Series.
Yeah, every day I survive.
The mean streets of London, England.
That's right.
I'm the sole survivor of London.
Yeah, that's it.
3500 miles away, you're the only person 3500 miles away.
Yeah, there's no one else here.
In a 3500 mile radius.

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It's amazing.
It's amazing you can do everything to, you know, you've got infrastructure that you keep
and go and like all by yourself.
This is why we have to take a week off every so often because you've got to, you know.
Yeah, sometimes it's hard to import like food and stuff, you know, but I make it work.
I don't know where this is going.
So anyway, how about we talk about.

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It's going nowhere fast.
No, we have really quickly.
It's like that like the meme with the car driver like like squealing off to the off
the exit.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Like back to the point of this podcast.
I guess we just stop there because you can edit in what you need to edit.

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I can't I can.
Yeah.
So how's about maybe talk about whatever it is we talk about?
If I will or whether you will or not.
Well, that's up to you.
Right.
That is I guess it's true.
I am the one I am the one editing it.
So it will be ultimately my decision.
How about we talk some about that?
Try that again.
How's about we talk about Survivor Series War Games 2024?

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Before we talk about Survivor Series War Games 2024, should we talk about Survivor Series
2011 at all?
Jesus Christ, I completely forgot about that.
That didn't happen.
You did.
Did you did you even watch it?
No, you didn't even get a chance to watch it.
OK, well, here's what I'll say.
Here's what I'll tell you.
Here's a here's a review of here's a quick review.

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Since we you know, yeah, it's been the holidays are the holidays.
Things get busy.
We just skipped last week because because we did.
It happens.
You're still here if you're hearing this, so you we didn't lose anybody.
But here's a quick rundown of Survivor Series 2011.

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First time I ever agree with King that John Laurinaitis is a buzzkill.
Whole lot of Zack Ryder chants.
Top Rope Glam Slam was insane.
The Rock is never not over.
This crazy in 2011, the amount of Cody chants after eliminating Mason Ryan.

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Interesting.
Yeah.
Shout out to Mason Ryan.
Seamus is move.
This is 2011 was also another return of Seamus, who debuted the move that is now called the
Ten Beats of the Ballery, but was originally called as here's a did you bonus right off

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the right off the bat?
Did you bonus?
Seamus is move Ten Beats of Baller was originally called the Ria Strad.
Ah, I can see why they changed the name of that because Ria Strad because Ria Strad.
Yeah, it is.
It is a reference to the Celtic literally Celtic warriors in when they would go into

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battle frenzy and become animalistic.
And the Ria Strad was the was the tapping into the the base animal instincts, which
is why like the thumping is sort of like, you know, very, very primal, very, very bestial
way.

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And that's that was that I made a note of Top Rope Elbow Drop for Savage question mark.
There was like, I don't know.
This was 2011.
Was this the year that was that the year Randy Savage passed?
No idea.
I'm not sure.
Somebody look it up.
R-Truth did not like his childhood hero, John Cena in 2011.

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The fact that the fact that we had John Cena and The Rock versus Miz and R-Truth as the
main event.
Yeah, Savage died May 20th, 2011.
OK, so that so it was so any so there was that and this was the CM Punk Ice Cream Bar
era reference to him bringing the bringing the ice cream bars back.

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Yeah.
So real quick, Santino Marella defeated Jinder Mahal via pinfall.
They were they were hindering the Jinder in 2011 by one, putting him on the fucking pre
show and to having him lose to Santino Marella, who, by the way, is in TNA.
Yeah.
Did you not know that?

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I started watching TNA.
Yeah, I didn't I didn't realize it.
He's like the general manager of of TNA.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With an American accent.
Yeah.
Oh, hey.
Shout out to.
Yeah.
Shout out to generic lime seltzer from Giant.
And also icebreakers, ice cubes, strawberry lemonade.

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Oh, whoa.
Hey, feature, feature, flavor, feature, flavor of today's episode.
What do you normally have icebreakers?
Usually it's icebreakers, ice cubes, winter green, winter.
That's the one.
Yeah.
Which I do have.
But, you know, I got I got this special pack.
Sometimes you're going to mix it up, you know.
Yeah.

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Dolph Ziegler, Dolph Ziegler beat John Morrison 10 minutes and 42 seconds for the WWE US title.
Beth Phoenix defeated Eve Torres in a lumbergeel match for the WWE defense championship performance
in 35 seconds.
Team Barrett, Cody Rhodes, Dolph Ziegler, Hunico, Jack Swagger and Wade Barrett defeated
team Orton, Randy Orton, Coby Kingston, makes Ryan Chambers and Sin Cara in 22 minutes and

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10 seconds.
Big Show defeated Mark Henry via disqualification in the singles match for the World Heavyweight
Championship in 13 minutes and four seconds.
CM Punk defeated Alberto Del Rio via submission in singles match for WWE championship and
John Cena The Rock defeated Awesome Truth in a tag team match in 21 minutes and 30 seconds.
So am I right in saying that in this whole card, the only people that are on the card

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from the other night is CM Punk and Sheamus?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because we did not have.
I mean, the Miz and R-Truth are active.
Yeah.
And obviously Cody Rhodes.
But yeah, Cody Rhodes is active.
Wade Barrett.
Well, Wade Barrett was on the show.
Not on the main show.

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No, he was on.
He was announcing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Randy Orton, no, Coby Kingston.
Yeah.
No, Mason Ryan was not on this year's in this year's Survivor Series.
Are you surprised?
Are you surprised?
Yeah, I'm surprised.
Anyway, yeah, that was that was Survivor Series 2011 from the New York City, New York, Madison

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Square Garden Arena.
Oh, it's from Madison Square Garden.
We did not know that.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah.
Tagline, the most charismatic tag team of all time.
Never before, never again.
Which I believe is true.
They never it was never again.
But once again, unlikely pairing of The Rock and John Cena, just like the unlikely pairing

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this year.
Once again, they're tying these things together based on based on just the rich history of
Survivor Series.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, I would I would say go back and watch it.
Surprisingly held up pretty well overall.
Yeah.
Looking at the card, there's no reason why it wouldn't be a good show.

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So yeah, no, it was a pretty good show.
I'd give it I'd give it a I'd give it a solid 16 16.
Cool.
I can't comment.
So 16 is 16.
It is.
Yeah.
Anyway, now that that's out of the way, now that's out of the way and I completely forgot
to watch the fucking show because I'm I'm great.

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How's about now we actually talk about Survivor Series War Games 2024.
Yeah.
So November 30th, 2024, two days ago, as of recording from Vancouver.
We're recording on a Monday.

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Yeah.
So we won't even get to talk about what happened on Monday Night Raw.
No, exactly.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada at the Rogers Arena.
Indeed.
Rogers Arena.
What's the deal with that?
I always like looking into the arenas and seeing what what's going on.
It's a multipurpose arena at 800 Griffith Way in the downtown area of Columbia, Canada.

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The General Motors Palace and sorry, General Motors Place and then the.
Apparently, it was called the Canada Ice Hockey Place for just one year and then they changed
the name.
That's kind of funny.
The Canada Ice Hockey Place.
I mean, come on.
I mean, yeah, I mean, it does exactly what it says in the tin, you know.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
You know exactly what you're getting into when you walk in.
The ice hockey happens in that place right there.
Canadian ice hockey to Canadian ice hockey.
I shouldn't get them mixed up with any kind of other ice hockey.
Yeah.
38th annual Survivor Series.
And it was the.

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Yeah.
Let's have a look here.
I'm trying to because I'm 38th annual Survivor Series.
What did I say?
Did you say 38th or did you say 30th?
If I said 30th, I was wrong.
But if I did say 38th, I was correct.
I think you might.
Maybe I might have I might have misheard.

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We'll go find out in post to find out.
It's the first Survivor Series to take place in Vancouver.
And WWE's first pay per view held in the city and venue since rock bottom in your house
1998.
How about that?
How about that?
And it was the third time.
Did you held in Canada?

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Did you bonus?
I guess it's a did you bonus?
Can we call it a did you bonus?
Just so I could put that that was did you bonus?
Yeah.
In I.
Yeah.
And yeah, this is the third Survivor Series held in Canada after 1997.
Montreal's your job and 2016 in Toronto, Montreal work job.

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And this is WWE's final main roster pay per view to air on the WWE Network on international
markets.
End of an era.
Right.
Because because beginning in January for you.
Yeah.
Come the Royal Rumble.
I'm watching.
I'm watching wrestling exclusively on Netflix.

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Be it raw, be it Smackdown, be NXT, be it anything.
I finally get to watch it all in one fucking place.
It's only taken me 25 fucking years by finally get to watch wrestling in one place.
I don't have to go down these stupid ass routes to get to watch fucking raw and Smackdown

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because we have to pay through our fucking teeth to watch raw and Smackdown in the UK.
And it's ridiculous.
I don't watch football.
I don't watch other sports.
I just want wrestling.
So they really they really are treating the international markets well.
Yeah, I have no I still to be honest, I haven't even looked into it in a while.

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I have no idea what the status of all other than other than I know Raw is going to Netflix
on the sixth.
That's pretty much what you got.
Yeah, I think Peacock is keeping the rights to the pay per views.
Smackdown will continue to be on USA Network and NXT will be on the CW Network and that
I don't know how long those contracts run out run for.

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But you've got to think eventually US will just do the same follow suit with the rest
of the world.
But yeah, I'm just so thankful.
I hope so.
I mean, it's fucking it's crazy actually that an American company like the WWE is going
to be easier to watch around the world than it is everywhere except in America.

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Well, of course, of course.
But I guess they're putting the putting the world in WWE, aren't they?
So, yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, so yeah, I was about I'm just glad I don't need who the one thing I'm glad I
don't need at all is Hulu.
Yeah, no more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shit, man.
Like, yeah.

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Wait.
So yeah, you'll just be able to watch Raw on Netflix.
And you know, it's great.
Like I can just I can get I can get raw.
So I'll be able to watch it actually live.
Yeah.
That's raw is the only thing I'll be able to watch.
Oh, well.
And and the pay per views on fuck peacock.
Well, I haven't ever been able to watch it.
Well, I could if I paid like a stupid amount of money, but I haven't been able to watch

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raw live in such a long time.
And also because I had to go through dodgy means to watch Raw and SmackDown for the last
God knows how many years because of because of said reason.
And I finally just get to watch it.
He means dodgy means.
Song title.
Yeah.
I finally get to watch it legally.

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So that's great.
Attendance is 17,828.
I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was, I think, the 68th set out that the
WWE have had this year alone.
And it was the highest, the highest gate for a Canadian pay per view of all time, I believe,

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all North American pay per view, something like that.
They broke records again.
They keep doing it.
Of course.
Of course they did.
Keep keep doing even.
And they had to make space for a second ring and they still and they still beat the records.
That's right.
So many people packed in that goddamn place.
There was people behind the entrance way and I love to see it.

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Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, they had a short they had they had the short like the tiny entrance like the yeah,
like the like the MSG.
Like the MSG entrance kind of thing.
Yeah, I love that.
I love it so much.
Yeah.
How about give us some on screen person now?
How about I do that right now?
We've got on the English commentators on the English commentators at the English commentators

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table, on English commentary, Michael Cole, the Corey Graves, Spanish commentators, Marcela
Rodriguez and Jerry Soto ring announcers, Alicia Taylor.
No, no, not plural ring announcer ring announcer Alicia Taylor referees Sean Bennett, Daphne
LeSean, Eddie Arango, Charles Robinson, Ryan Tran and Rod Zapata interviewers, Kathy Kelly

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and the pre show panel, Jackie Redmond, Wade Barrett, Big E and Peter Rosenberg.
Also, post show panel.
They should put Wikipedia.
You got to get there's a post show panel and post show panel.
Post show was just a press conference.
No they had no they had they had post show interview.

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They had Jackie Redmond interviewed Gunter after the after the match.
Oh well.
Yeah.
They had they had a couple interviews.
Let's get into it.
So yeah, I love that they continue to use Ozzy Osbourne's song War Pigs for the theme.

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It's just it's and I love it.
Yeah, I love even more that they did an updated version with T-Pain.
T-Pain.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, this it was it was entertaining.
It was good.
It's good.
Good.
Good new remix.
Yeah.
And it wasn't too.
I think it's off.

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I think he's released like a covers album or something.
So I guess that makes sense.
Yeah.
So I totally make sense.
Great intro video.
I loved it go straight into the women's war game match.
I think that's what we seem to do every year now is I really hope the women's war games
match eventually ends up headlining a war game survivor series.

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That'd be really cool.
That hasn't happened yet.
I'm sure it will when when the storyline is the bigger story.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that's that's where that the other war games match is Bloodline like Bloodline.
It was never going to be.
Yeah, it was never going to be anything but the bloodline.
Yeah.

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Yeah, exactly.
So and but I also love I also love that how having the men's war games match at the end
also left open the idea of more possibilities because we're ending the night with it, whereas
the women's match, if if we put it at the end, there's there was there would be only

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one expected reason why it would be put at the end because the match isn't for anything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And and if you and if you put the women's this women's match at the end and you didn't
do the cash in, then it would it would have lost its it would have lost all the impact.
Yeah, or you had like some sort of like Charlotte return or something like that would make sense.

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Yeah.
Becky Lynch return like but yeah, which let's let's just before we even, you know, spoil
it.
I mean, we're not going to it's not spoilers.
We don't we talk about things that happen.
Like if you're listening to this and you haven't watched it, don't listen to this or don't
care about spoilers.
Nobody returned.
There was no return.

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No returns.
Yeah, that's right.
No returns.
No turns.
No, no, nothing.
No, no swerves.
Yeah.
And you know what?
Like that's everything was just for for quite a while.
Most most PLs have had some sort of something on it for the what?
But every yeah, I mean, but to be honest, oh, and there were five matches.
Why did I think there was only oh, I don't know why.

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For some reason, I forgot about the other match anyway.
But there was some interesting.
We'll get to them, obviously.
But that's later on.
But there still was some really interesting things.
We'll get to the first match first, obviously, because that's normally how you do it.
Yeah.
Rhea Ripley, Bianca Belair, Naomi Eoskai and Bailey versus the Judgment Day, Liv Morgan

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and Ricardo Rodriguez and Nia Jax, Tiffany Stratton, Candice LeRae.
Yeah.
Before we go into anything, Bianca Belair is definitely the person that took out Jay
Cargill.
No, because and the reason they say this and if you have the youth.
OK, OK, we want it.
Let's let's let's get our well, you know, since since we didn't get to air our

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predictions episode, just know that all of our predictions were correct.
We were 100 percent across the board.
We're just putting that out there ahead of time.
Just just.
I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, if you go back and watch Raw from last week,

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it was either a Smackdown.
I can't remember.
Anyway, it was when when the two women's teams were like having a bit of a square
off on the mic.
And Liv Morgan made comment about the fact that Chade Jay Cargill got taken out in
got taken out in the parking lot. If you watch that back, look at Bianca Belair's face. She

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had this look of guilt.
Bianca could not have done it because she was in the ring. She was in a match at the
time.
It could have happened at any point. Who's to say that didn't happen before she came
out there?
No, I can't imagine. That sounds like a me-th idea that's so out there.

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I think it's per- I mean, look, we're coming to the Rumble. Who's to say that Bianca's
not in the Rumble? By that point, maybe would have had to vacate the Tag Team Championships.
What would she have to gain? Why would she? What's her motive?
We have seen so many times Tag Team partners take out their partner because they are sick

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of their spotlight being overshadowed or they're thinking that someone's trying to use them
to propel their own career. That's exactly what you-
I don't think-
No, but a heel can and a heel can always justify that by just being a heel. They can be like-
Yeah, but I don't think Bianca- I don't think they can turn Bianca heel.

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Yeah, they can. She was a great heel in NXT.
Yeah, but little girls love her. She's a female John Cena at this point. I really feel like-
End of the day, what we need- I don't know.
We're going to have Bianca Belair versus Jay Cargill at some point and WrestleMania next

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year would be a good time to do that.
I don't know that you need- I don't know that we need that.
We need that. Of course we need that.
I don't think so. Well, I don't know. I don't.
I do.
I don't want either one of them to be mad at each other for any reason.
Well, I've got some bad news for you, son.
I have a thought that it is nobody that- I think it's a returning person. I think it's

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somebody that's not currently on the roster or there could be someone coming from NXT.
Maybe there's another person. It could have been Britt Baker. Britt Baker could have taken
out Jade Cargill. We just won't know. I don't know. I have no idea what their contracts

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are or anything.
No, I don't.
Somebody from AEW who had a problem with her, both in the AEW or problem with her leaving
AEW and becoming popular. There's got to be somebody else. I think this is just me. I
could be 100% wrong and you could be 100% right. I could be- Well, I would never be

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100% wrong.
You'd be surprised.
I would be 100% surprised. Yeah.
Anyway, to the match.
It was a great match.
It was a good match. It was fun. I think the last 15 to 20 minutes were so fucking good.
But-
Highlight of the night?
Oh, the trash can, right? The moonsault?
No.
No? That was great though.

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I mean, it was.
She's never done a moon- Last time she did it, she just kind of jumped. She's never done
a moonsault with the trash cans. That was-
Oh, that. Okay. So she did. So she upped it. My only problem with it was that they did
it like concurrently with Tiffany Stratton doing her moonsault.
Yeah. They kind of stole the spotlight a little from it.

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It was, yeah. Yeah. And she already did it last year.
Yeah. I get you. I get you.
I almost feel like it was a little forced, in my opinion. But people liked it. I'm not
going to yuck on it.
What was your highlight?
Mine was the EOS guy fire extinguisher into how smooth it was when that Rhea Ripley handcuffed

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Raquel Rodriguez to the rope when everything was blinded by the-
That was great. It was like something out of a cartoon.
That was just- Exactly.
It was extremely cartoony.
And just a setup that you couldn't have done without multiple pieces being in place there.

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Yeah. It was great. When the smoke cleared and you just saw Raquel tied to the rope, it
was like- Yeah.
Yeah. It was fucking brilliant.
How the fuck did that happen? Yeah.
It was really good. It was really well done.
That was probably the smoothest spot of the night, I think, overall. That might be my
spot of the night, actually, because of how fucking smooth that was.

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Yeah. It was really well done. Yeah.
But one thing I will say about this and the men's one, before we even get to it, there
seemed to be an issue with weapons. Every single time someone came to the ring, they
really struggled to find what they were looking for. And there actually were a few times.

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There was one time, and I think it was Raquel Rodriguez, she came to the ring, she looked
under the ring, both sides, and I feel like she- Because she ended up getting in the ring
with nothing. And I feel like she was meant to get into the ring with something for a
spot, but they ended up obviously not doing that spot. Actually, yeah, it was a spot where

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Naya Jax was really feebly hitting the Bianca and I can't remember who, Naomi, maybe, with
the chair. And it was like they were just bending over to be hit by the chair without
her even doing anything because they were clearly trying to waste time.
Oh, I- It was really awkward because obviously she was trying to look for something, and

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at one point you could see her looking at the ref as if to say, where is it? It just
surprises me that obviously- That those things are-
I'm not saying that this is all rehearsed, but you would think that they would go like,
we're going to put this here, this here, this here so you can come to the ring. You know
where to go to grab your shit. Right. They need a check mark. Especially considering

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it's the first match. It's not like somebody else-
It doesn't mean move around. Yeah. They need more organization. They need
a check. They need somebody to check the boxes of, are the props in place?
Yeah. But it's just like all you got to do is just like, all right, cool. Well, you know,

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Naomi, you're going to come to the ring and grab three chairs. They're going to be right
here under the door. And then Bailey, you're going to come through and grab a ladder. And
it's going to be next along or next to the ring post to the right. Just no way-
It really shouldn't be that hard. Like somebody somewhere dropped the ball on-

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Majorly. On that, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Other than that- That's just a thing. Yeah. But that's a thing
that doesn't take away from the enjoyment of the match. That's not a, certainly not
a problem. It's not a botch spot.
Not a botch spot. Maybe it's like he takes you out of it for just a second, but then
once they get in the ring, it's like, cool to get on with it. The last 20 minutes of

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this match were fucking great. Just, yeah, a really good, like the way, as you said,
the spot with the fire extinguisher, the moonsault, Rhea Ripley, like taking the mask off and
everything. It was done really well.
Yeah. That was an unexpected wardrobe shift for Rhea Ripley, for sure.

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And Nia Jax taking a brutal power bomb through her table as well. She had landed so high
up on her shoulders and her neck. So hopefully she's okay. But yeah, it was a fucking great
match of a C team Rhea Ripley getting the win.
Yeah. In 38 minutes and 15 seconds. Yeah. Long damn man. I love, I love, I love War Games

(33:16):
matches, man. They're just, they're so long and there's so much intrigue to them. And
like, yeah, there's a lot moving parts.
There's the, it's such a, there's such a big buildup before the actual match technically
starts. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Which still to this day, like it still doesn't, the rules, the way they set up the rules and

(33:38):
explain them, it's a logical, there's like a logical fallacy there that does bother me
because the match starts when the first two guys start fighting. Like it does start just
like the Royal Rumble starts when the first two guys enter the ring. The Royal Rumble
doesn't end until the last man enters. Like the, there needs to be a change in the language

(34:05):
used to describe it.
Yeah, that's true actually. It's almost, the way they do it now, it's almost like saying
the Royal Rumble begins when the number 30 enters the ring. That doesn't make sense.
Like I think, I mean, obviously Wikipedia here has said it as if it's from the first
bell. And it's funny actually, when the men's one began, Michael Cole literally was like,

(34:28):
there will be no bell, the bell will not ring. And then as he said that they fucking rang
the bell.
Yeah.
And then Corey Graves is like, oh, they're signifying that the, you know, the start of,
I don't know, whatever. And I was just like, just have that be the start of the match.
It's just the start of the match.
But it's only, yeah, the match can't, the pinfalls or submission is the only way to

(34:53):
end the match. You just say there are no pinfalls and submissions will not be counted until
the final contest.
Yeah, like that's fine. I think, yeah, it's almost arbitrary and just pointless saying,
like.
It's just, that's my one pet peeve about it because it's illogical.

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Yeah, it is pointless. It's actually.
But it gets them to the, but it gets, as we'll see in the men's, especially in the men's
match, it gets us to a spot.
Yeah, I get it for them. Yeah, they actually use that to their advantage in the men's.
Anyway, great match.
Anyways, next match.
Enjoyed it. Yeah, Shinsuke Nakamura versus LA Knight for the United States Championship.

(35:38):
God damn, I love it. I love Shinsuke's new entrance name. I love new spooky evil Shinsuke.
Yeah, I mean, it's.
It looks like he's a follower of Dormammu from Doctor Strange.
I think, yeah, it's cool. Like it's a good, when he turned heel before he recently came

(36:04):
back, it was just kind of like the old Shinsuke Nakamura with a slight attitude change. But
now.
Yeah, it was, it was same. It was same Shinsuke. Just I'm a, I'm just being a dick. I'm just
being moody. I'm just fighting the good guys now.
Yeah. But now it's like, yeah, this dude's taken a shift. Like we've got new music. We
got like a cool, a new robe. We've got the entrance mask that he had at this event. And

(36:27):
like everything about him is like, fuck the face paint. Like it's great. And they got
the mist. Like he did on the very smooth. The mist he did on Smackdown was so good when
LA Knight came out to attack him.
Holy shit.
And he just stepped backward and misted him. Like it was just like so smooth.
He barely even moved. Yeah.
Yeah. And yeah, this is great. And I'm glad like LA Knight's held this championship since

(36:52):
WrestleMania. That's a, that's a good fucking run. And.
Yeah, man. Yeah. For, for, for his first singles title in WWE, like to win it, how he won it,
to lose it, how he, to drop it, how he dropped it, which by the way, did you notice the,
did you notice the, um, inadvertent, um, foreshadowing?

(37:16):
When he dropped the championship. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
When he literally dropped the title and his entrance.
Yep. Yep. Yeah. And that they, whether it was intentional or not, like Cody wrote, Cody
Graves really like if it wasn't intentional, he covered it up so fucking well. Like it
was just like, Oh, you know, he's, he's, he's off his game. He's, he's dropping the championship.

(37:37):
Like, and obviously when he jumped up to the top rope, that the whole thing he does, like
he's, his foot slipped and they mentioned it again. It was, it was, it was a good way
to cover up the, at least if you're watching on TV, a good way to cover up why he was fucking
up so much.
Yeah. So, Oh yeah. The, the, the story that they, the story that they told with that was

(37:59):
really well done. Yeah. Um, and in a weird way, uh, I don't, I don't know if it was intent.
I doubt it was intentional, but I'm just thinking about it now. His, this is, this Shinsuke
Nakamura is like a distinctly different person. Yeah. Or almost a little, almost a little

(38:24):
like supernatural ish, you know, in his creepy. Um, and the last time he had a supernatural
encounter was with, uh, was with Bray Wyatt was in the, was in the, the, you know, the,
the pitch black badge. Oh, with LA Knight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. LA Knight. Yeah.
I don't know. I don't know if that, I don't know if that would have, would have anything

(38:47):
to do with it subconsciously if they want to, if they, they could, they could make some
sort of a hook there if they wanted to, but I don't know. I'm just putting, I'm just putting
it out there. Yeah. But yeah, nine minutes, 45 seconds. We've got a brand new. I just,
I was going into this match and I was like, please Nakamura has to win here. Like he had,

(39:09):
oh yeah, you can't invest in this brand new look and brand new gimmick and then just not
follow through on this. So again, it makes perfect sense that it would, he just, his
presence, his new vibe just was completely unsettling completely through LA Knight off.

(39:30):
Yeah. He was, yeah, he was a hundred percent off his game and that's a great way of, that's
a great way of protecting him in that fashion. You know, he was mentally, he was mentally
out of it. Yeah. And it's great. Like I love it. The moment in the WWE, like no one's unbeatable
and because I think like you write yourself into a corner when you make someone unbeatable,

(39:53):
but even good though, they, they mentioned it during his match. It's like Gunther's lost
twice since his WWE run and they mentioned the people that beat him. It's like, that's
good. It's like, yeah, is he hard to beat? Yes, but he's not unbeatable. And that makes,
that makes it more intriguing when you see a Gunther match. You're like, well, cool.
He's hard to beat, but he might, he might get beat. So he can be, but yeah, he's hard

(40:15):
to beat, but he can be beat. Yeah. And I think it's, and I think it's fantastic. The list
of people that have beaten Gunther are few and the only time, and the only time he's
ever beaten is for a championship. Yeah, exactly. Cause he's just pretty much and holds some
phrases. So, um, it was a great to see and we'll get there. We'll get onto the next match

(40:39):
now. The triple threat for the, for the, uh, intercontinental championship. Great to see
both mid card championships on the, on the main, on the, on a PLE, which is great, but
we have Bronbaker versus Seamus versus Lookwood Kaiser in what was probably along with the

(41:00):
men's war game match, probably my favorite match of the night. I fucking love this match.
Did not expect it to deliver in the way it did. Like, Holy shit. No, it was, everybody
was, everybody was on their game. Yeah. Like on a different level. Yeah. I think, I think
after, especially after that, after the last match, like, you know, Shinsuke was so, not

(41:23):
to just go back, but Shinsuke was so dominant in that match. Yeah. He dominated the whole
thing. Yeah. It was a, yeah, it was a, whew, we are in for a night. Like, yeah. Yeah. And
everybody looked, everybody looked great. Oh man. It was just so hard. Like Bronbaker
is, Bronbaker is the fucking future of, of this company. Like he's just, yeah, un fucking

(41:49):
real man. Like the speed he goes, the spear he hit on Lookwood Kaiser at the end where
he just torpedoed himself across the ring. Like it was, it was Corey Graves again. Like
Corey Graves has some of the fucking best lines when he's like, if you told me that
Bronbaker was an alien, it, that would be easier for me to believe than you trying to

(42:12):
tell me that he's just a, he's just a human being. Yeah. He's just so impressive. And
like, yeah, the more like, I'm just like, yeah, I'm hearing, you know, behind the scenes
and stuff, Paul Heyman is a huge fan of Bronbaker. Yeah. And I'd love to see, you know, I don't

(42:34):
think Bronbaker needs anyone. I think he's great on the mic, but so is Roman Reigns and
he does well with Paul Heyman. So why the fuck not? But even just that, even just that
little bit of rub, you know, like just a backstage, you know, that the backstage interaction,
like, you know, a wink and a nod is all you need to set up a potential anything for any

(42:59):
time. Yeah. You know, the best we'll get to it. Well, we can get to it now. We can get
to it now because even the match hasn't happened, but the interaction on smackdown happened
where we know, you know, this, this, whatever, whatever this, uh, oh, you know, the, the
wise man owes CM Punk a favor now. Yeah. Like that can just hang out for any, for, for ever,

(43:25):
you know? Yeah. And I don't, yeah, you're right. We'll, we'll, we'll get to that later,
obviously, but with Bron Breaker, like I definitely see him being, I could definitely see him
being world champion post WrestleMania that next year for sure. Like I, I, I could, I,
I, you definitely could. Yeah. But I will say that I don't think Bron needs to be rushed

(43:52):
to the world. No, you're totally right. I could see it happening. I don't know if I
want to see it happen just yet, but I could see it. I want to see him in the picture.
I want to see him in the picture. We could have another number one contender spot. Yeah.
He definitely needs to lose to Gunter once. Yeah. I mean, I would, you could also, if,

(44:16):
if you give me a fucking Hogan versus warrior, Gunter versus Bron Breaker champion for champion
at WrestleMania, I wouldn't be mad at that either. Yeah. It would be, yeah, that would
be cool actually. Yeah. You know, that would be pretty fucking cool. Bron Breaker, Bron
Breaker enters the, you know, the, uh, Royal rumble. You could, you could put him at, you

(44:39):
could have him win the rumble and face Gunter. He doesn't even have to win that time, but,
but it would be, but it would be interesting, almost, almost better. I would say to have
Gunter beat Bron Breaker for the IC title and, and have Gunter have both of those titles

(45:02):
momentarily, you know, and, and, and do the same thing that, you know, warrior did. You
drop, you know, you relinquish the IC title or not. I mean, I think, I think Gunter could,
Gunter could a hundred percent just hold both of those. Yeah. Oh, a hundred, a hundred,
a hundred percent. Like, yeah, it's so, it's so, so, so refreshing right now. And then

(45:26):
it's just that we've got so many people on the roster that are younger talent that have
so much future ahead of them. Bron Breaker, um, Luke, but Kaiser, Gunther, like, you know,
there's this Bronson Reed, like there's so many people that are like, so, so this is
Koa, the list goes on, Jacob Fatu, you know, there's so many people right now that are

(45:48):
like, you could legitimately see them in like five years from now being like headliners
of WrestleMania's if they, if everything's done properly. They are building these guys
up so well. So well. And you know, we, there's still, there's still the lingering Seamus
has never won the IC title. Yeah. I could, I could totally see him pulling one over and

(46:13):
beating Bron Breaker at some point. And then, you know, and then they hot swap it, you know,
I'd love to see, I was thinking about this the other day, what I'd love to see if you
time it right, whether or not, but if you time it right, it would love, I would love
to see, I don't see any time soon by the way, but I'd love to see Seamus win the IC title

(46:34):
in his retirement match. So he wins it and then relinquishes it, relinquishes it and
then retires. That'd be quite a cool way to go out. Or just, or if you, or if we get a
pay-per-view in Ireland. Yeah, yeah. That'd be cool. You know, that would be, that would
be, yeah. Like a backlash or something. Cause they keep doing back flashes in, in weird

(46:54):
places. That would be an easy, you know, big, big pop, big hometown win. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Um, yeah, I'd be into that. You know, something, something to make, something to make the moment
special even if it's not a long rain. Yeah. You know, you don't, you only have to, you
only have to win it once to, to win it. Exactly. And then he's done it all. So literally done

(47:16):
it all. Um, yeah. So really looking forward to seeing where they go. 14 minutes, 25 seconds
brawn breaker is still your, or you, your, uh, intercontinental champion. That's right.
Uh, up next, we have Gunther versus Damien Preece for the, um, world heavyweight championship.
We do. And we did much longer than I thought, actually 19 minutes, 20 seconds. Uh, yeah,

(47:41):
they gave that, they gave them a good bit of time. Yeah. It was an early, it was an
early pay-per-view. And why, and I, why I noticed with this match is like, as I noticed,
you noticed with a lot of crowd, when a crowd is really into a match, the next match, they're
kind of dead for it. Right. And so good, and Damien Preece had their work cut out for them

(48:02):
because the crowd got pumped for that triple threat. And that first five minutes of that
match, I was like, oh shit, like the crowds too tired for this right now. They wait, they're
kind of waiting for the war games match now to pick it up. Yeah. They did a great job
because halfway through that match, people were getting back into it again. And that's
great. And I think that was, I think that that another reason to give that they gave

(48:26):
it a little extra time too for that precisely is they need, you needed a bit of a come down.
Yeah. Yeah. And in order, and in order for them to get into it, the way that, that, you
know, they, yeah, everybody needed, everybody needed a bit of a break. Yeah, exactly. So
that first half of that match was, was the break. Yeah. You know, this, this was a great

(48:47):
way, I think again, to, to make everyone look good. Yeah. You know, Damien Priest is still,
he's still protected in the loss because that, you know, because God damn Vin Baller. Once
again, yeah. Now he's going, now he's going completely rogue. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're
in shambles. They're going to lose that. I, I really think that this, you know, the, the

(49:12):
Finn Baller obsession with Damien Priest is going to, is going to eventually lend to them
losing their titles. Yeah. I think it will eventually lead to, it could happen tonight.
Yeah, it could happen. It could be happening later tonight. I'd like to see, I could see
with all of this, Finn Baller leaving or being kicked out of, of the judgment day. I, because

(49:34):
I think he keeps having, he keeps shouting at Dominic, like he keeps being at odds with
everyone all the time. I think if you take Finn Baller out of the equation with the judgment
day, it almost takes judgment day back to their original days where it was just like,
there is no clear leader. They'd all be on the same kind of peg. And yeah, it's, it's

(49:55):
been hard this whole time for it to be not that way with Finn being in there. Yeah. Cause
he's like the only original member left too. So it's always kind of logical. He's also,
he's also the original, he's the first, he's the member that caused the first turn on edge.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And so- Thank you man. This, this faction's been around for such

(50:17):
a long time and it's just like, it's kind of like, it's kind of like, when the New Day
first started, I was just like, this isn't going to last two minutes and here we are
fucking 10 years later. Yeah. And I don't, I don't see, I don't see why they kill, they
couldn't keep it going if they just get their shit together. Like there's no pro, you know,

(50:44):
they can handle their losses. Doesn't, that doesn't matter. And I could definitely see
at some point, like not anytime soon, obviously, but just like wrestling goes, like in three
or four years from now, we'll have a, a reformation of like Dominic, Rhea, Finn and Damien Priest.
They'll reform the original judgment day or something. You know what I mean? Like-

(51:06):
It could happen. Definitely see it happening down the line, but I think judgment day have
now solidified themselves as a, one of those factions that we'll talk about for a long
time. Like they're in that kind of, they're up there now.
But that's the other, there's the other big question. If Finn, if Finn leaves the judgment
day, then there are no original members of the judgment day as we, as we really know

(51:28):
it because the, the Ed Rhea, Damien Priest judgment day was so short lived. It didn't,
the judgment day as it, as it's known did not take off until the, until the Finn Balor

(51:49):
turn. Yeah. Yeah. So for him to not be in judgment day, it, that might be problematic.
So I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. Indeed. We'll see. But really good match.
And obviously, yeah. Finn Balor causes, causes a distraction. Obviously attacks Priest and

(52:09):
then he gets in the sleeper hole, passes out. And that's that we're always going to lead
Damien Priest versus Finn Balor. Probably at this point, it's going to lead to a, some
form of stipulation. I wouldn't be surprised actually if they face each other on the first
raw on Netflix. That would be maybe a good main event for that show even. Yeah. I mean,

(52:30):
they could, they could do a steel cage. Yeah. I mean, they could do, they could be, I mean,
they could end, that could end in a hell in a cell next year. Yeah. I mean, I don't know
if, I don't know if you know, but like apparently raw on Netflix is being given the TV 14 rating.

(52:51):
They've been allowed to do that. So that's pretty interesting because they haven't been
TV 14 since the attitude era. That's not me saying they should be doing attitude era things.
It's just that they're going to have a bit more leeway to do certain things. Yeah. Well,
the things, things that we, yeah, there's definitely things that we can expect. Like
they don't have to bleep out the crowd. Yeah. Yeah. You know, thank God for that. Simple

(53:16):
thing, simple things like that. Yeah. You know, um, it's not, I, I really don't, I don't
think it's going, it's not going to lead to just like, well, here comes all the, all the
blading and all the hardcore and all the swearing and all the, all the, but speaking of hardcore,
I'm very, very intrigued because Travis Scott got given this brand new looking hardcore

(53:41):
championship by Triple H at one of his concerts and then invited Travis Scott to be at the
first raw on Netflix. I think is, is Travis Scott's obviously going to be the new theme
for raw moving into Netflix, but this championship that this fucking championships going to come
into play a fucking thing. It is weird. It is very weird that why I, I don't, I don't

(54:09):
understand the reference or the reason why he would be given a, a quote unquote hardcore
championship, which is very easily looks like the red belted universal championship kind
of smashed up. Just like the old winged eagle. That's just like the old hardcore championship.

(54:30):
It's, it's, it's, there's no way that they've got to be bringing this championship back.
They have to be. You think? I think so. And I, and I, I will be honest with you. I've
been calling for that championship to be brought back for fucking ever for like 15 years. It's

(54:51):
always got a soft place in my heart. It doesn't need to be a comedy title though. It can give
you a good five to 10 minute hardcore match once every couple of weeks on raw. Like why
the fuck not? Like it's entertaining. Like I'm not talking about extreme. Yeah. It doesn't
have to be the 24 seven rule and it doesn't have to be like grotesque hardcore either.

(55:13):
It could just be some chairs. Someone gets put through a table. We have a good, you know,
fools count anywhere matches of fun, like stuff like that. It just means no disqualification,
no count out, false count anywhere. Like that's really, and it adds just another degree of
variety that we have got high flyers. We've got tag teams, we've got heavyweights. Like
cool. Well, let's have a hardcore championship. Let's, let's give people on the roster that

(55:36):
maybe aren't doing too much and give them a hardcore championship. That's what the 24
seven championship was great for. So you hear it. So yeah, if you're listening, you hear
that triple H gives us what it wants. Give us, that's right. Yeah. Give me what I want.
Give me what I want. It's what, what Chris, what Chris would say if he could say, yeah,

(56:00):
I just can't do it. I don't, that's why you do it. Um, moving on to the main event, we've
got Roman Reigns and Jey Uso, Jimmy Uso, Sammy Zayn and CM Punk versus the bloodline or you
want to call it the OG bloodline versus the bloodline. Whatever. It's a bloodline civil
war, but it is the only people, so it's a cola. It is the bloodline because they're

(56:24):
the only ones going by the bloodline. Yeah, it's true. Roman Reigns and the Uso's and
Sammy Zayn and CM Punk. I mean, it's, it's right there. It says it right there. They
could be the OG, but they're not going by the OG bloodline. They're just going by Roman
Reigns, the Uso's. Yeah. I think it's, I think it's probably because they're just so fractured.
The first thing I want to mention about this match, well, that really fucking intrigued

(56:49):
me was Jey Uso came out after Roman Reigns. Yeah. And before anyone says, oh, that's because
he started the match. That's because he started the match. It's not because in the women's
one, both, all those teams that came out, the last person that came out wasn't the one
that started the match. That's also true. So, and it wasn't, no, it had nothing to do

(57:16):
with that. Specifically. I just think. But it coincidentally did. I'd like to think that.
It worked out that way. So that you might be confused. We had Sam, we had Jimmy come
out, we had Sammy come out, Jimmy come out, and then everyone started doing the yeet in
the crowd and then CM Punk came out. I was like, cool, cool. Yeah. Then CM Punk's music
ended and then everyone started to yeet again. And then it was Roman Reigns. And it's like,

(57:41):
well, shit. Jey Uso is going to be coming out last. And I love that. Yeah. That was
that. There were a lot of levels to the. To the humbling of Roman Reigns in this match.
Yeah. Yes. Yeah. You know, for a number of reasons. And you'd like to think that obviously
not said on camera, you'd like to think that Roman Reigns was like as like a token of like

(58:05):
an olive branch, so to speak, to Jey was like, I want you to come out after I do because
Roman Reigns of the old would never allow that he'd come out. No, no, not at all. So
that definitely intrigued me for sure. And obviously we got a lot more of that as the
match went on. But the match itself, it was a great way to play. It was a great way to
play it. It was a great way to play in the intro. Yeah, for sure. Really fun match. I

(58:31):
knew it'd be fun and it was fun. So also, also just a quick shout out to something I
saw on the Internet that is that is just kind of silly. What's that? Because, you know,
you know, you know how the Internet likes to be the Internet and then exaggerate and
take something and usually exaggerate it beyond reasonable means, especially when it comes

(58:54):
to professional wrestling. I saw somewhere I saw someone they started commenting about
CM Punk going off script, quote unquote, off script. Oh, well, when he pushed Brunson Reed
in the face. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, there's no there's no script for that to go off of.

(59:15):
Yeah. He just was going out. They didn't they didn't tell him to do a specific thing or
not to do it. And he did it. He just that's just him doing something in the moment that's
not off script because there's no script to be off of exactly. And also, how do how the
fuck do we not know that him and Brunson were backstage and we're like, oh, how about how

(59:40):
about we do this when we go there that ruffles and feathers? You know what I mean? Yeah.
All he all he said. All he said was that he improvised that that was an improvised moment.
It wasn't like using using off script as a you know, it's it's you know, it's a it's
a gotcha headline thing. I just I saw it and I yeah, I saw it. And I'm like, come on. Like

(01:00:01):
I'm just going to. That's that's dumb. Yeah. You know, apparently the say what it is. You
don't have to when he did that, they blacked out the screen. But what I learned is the
reason they blacked out the screen is because Jimmy Uso like flipped the bloodline off.
Oh, so that's quite funny. Yes. I won't have to do that on Netflix. Yeah. So so you have

(01:00:27):
41 minutes and 55 seconds. And what a great match. It was just we don't have to go into
everything. There's a lot. A lot goes on here. But we had we got a crop of flying crossbody
from the top rope by Roman Reigns. Yeah, I know. Right. To enter the match. Roman doesn't
go to the top rope. And we had Brunson Reed jumping from the top of the fucking cage,

(01:00:51):
exploding a table. Yeah. Apparently he landed on both of his legs, both his ankles. It doesn't
seem like he's in any bad injury, but it seems like he's going to be off TV for a few weeks,
according to the press conference. I think there's a couple of people that could probably
take some time off. Yeah. Yeah. Jimmy Uso broke a toe. Jimmy Uso broke a toe. Yep. Yep.

(01:01:14):
And also someone else, you know, you know, so splash, right, where they normally like
they splash and it's like they kind of land on their feet a little bit. Yeah. That splash
from Jimmy Uso, man, he landed so chest to chest. Yeah. It's like it's like perfect.
Yeah. The one you talk to the one at the end. Yeah. The one he did off the cage. Yeah. Yeah.

(01:01:38):
Yeah, dude. He was like, I mean, he was like a solid, like steel rock, like like beam.
Yeah. With how, you know, that that looked great. Yeah, that was great. And I. Yeah. And the whole
dynamic here with punk and Roman was fucking brilliant. The way they were just standing in

(01:02:01):
the cage, not looking at each other, the ways punk stormed past Roman, obviously, Hayman coming out
trying to ask them to get along and obviously in the end, punk saved Roman Reigns. I loved I loved
I loved how they worked that spot in to have him yell at them both. And then it's then then and then
yell that it's war games and then and then the bell rings. Yeah. So it was fucking yeah, good shit.

(01:02:26):
I like that. Yeah. Obviously, punk saves Roman Reigns from the massive Bronson Reed tsunami. So
yeah. And that's obviously when Roman helps punk up. And I was like, oh, shit. It's like an event.
That's like an Avengers moment right there. That's that's right. After after after Roman first
inadvertently spearing CM Punk and then also not helping him up earlier. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

(01:02:50):
So it was really they told such a great story in like 45 minutes, you know. So yeah, I mean,
there's there's really no reason for CM Punk to be mad at Roman Reigns. I mean, other than other than
like, you know, some stuff from real long ago, you know, before he you know, before he left the first,

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you know. But that's that shit is so long ago that it's like you were different people now.
Yeah, it's it's yeah, I guess we'll get into that. I think there's a lot of, you know,
as the story goes, like CM Punk was like the shield idea was kind of CM Punk's idea back in the day.

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And his original picks were going to be he wanted it to be Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins and Cassius
Ohno. And then at the last. And then Vince wanted it to be Roman Reigns. So they swapped it out.
Well, yeah. Well, yeah. And and we and I mean, no offense, but that is obviously the correct choice

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of 100 percent it was. But yeah, it goes to that. And also it goes back to when CM Punk initially
left the WWE and he did that podcast of Colt Cabana. He had he said a lot of shit about Roman Reigns,
not bad shit, not actually about Roman Reigns, but it was about like everyone about the company

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pushing here. Yeah. Saying like you've got to make it look strong. You've got to make it look strong.
And I think they're obviously at some point when it leads to these two facing each other,
which it will eventually. That will get that will that will get bought up 100 percent because it's
CM Punk. It will get bought up. But why am I intrigued by is obviously what this favor is.
And I don't expect this favor to be bought up immediately. It could be a year or two from now.

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Like I'd love to see. Exactly. That's what I mean. Yeah. This can you can hold on to this forever.
Yeah. And that's what's great about the way they're telling stories right now. It's like it's like
the rock when he gave that whatever that is to to Cody Rhodes the night after us.
Maybe we still don't know. And what the fuck? Right. Yeah. Everybody forgot about that.
Yeah. Exactly. We've been talking about that. So but that's what I love is like

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wrestling hasn't really done this kind of storytelling before where it's just like
they hold something over your head for like nearly a year. And it's like remember that thing from
Buckingham. Yeah. A year ago. Sprinkle these. There's so many opportunities to sprinkle these
little things in. And like I said, it doesn't have you don't have to just just steamroll right

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into whatever it is. No, you can let it breathe. Let it simmer. Yeah. I mean, come on. We saw
we saw Thanos at the end of Avengers one. Yeah. We just saw his face. We didn't see him again,
you know, for for another five years. Right. Yeah. See this favor, whatever it is being can be.

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I mean, fuck, it could be the next, you know, when Roman Reigns is champion again, whenever that
might be. That's when CM Punk arrives and be like, my favor was to get a title shot whenever I fucking
won it. And Paul Heyman said that's what he can do. So you never know. It could be something. It
could be anything, but he could face the rock for the People's Championship. Maybe.

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The very real, very much real people's championship. But who knows? Listen, it's so intriguing. Listen.
And I love it. Listen, the rock, the rock said it. And therefore it is factual. The People's
Championship is a real championship. There is there is no one that can tell me that it's not because

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it because it is. I believe it. And therefore and all and all that it requires is the belief.
You know, I can see, you know, I can see how the rock and myself People's Championship.
I could see a bit of a throwback to when you remember back in the day when actually when the rock
threw Stone Cold Smoking Skullbell off the bridge into the into the river. Oh, yeah. Definitely see

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someone getting hold of the People's Championship and doing something similar to it. Actually,
that would that would work really well for Cody Rhodes. Yeah. In a weird way, because then he'll
because then he'll because then he'll also be this collector of oddball championships. He'll have the
Crown Jewel Championship title. Yeah. Well, he's at least he's a he's a one time Crown Jewel

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Championship winner. Yeah. He'll have the People's Championship. We'll we'll give you know, bring
back. Give him the million dollar belt to just get just just to have, you know, to round it out.
Like, yeah, man. Remember when L.A. Knight was the million dollar champion for a minute? Yeah,
yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Shit. That did happen. Like nobody talking. People aren't talking about that.

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They should be. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that was his first singles championship then he won.
Yeah. Yeah, it would be. Yeah. It says I mean, I mean, that's it. That's let's put it this way.
The People's Championship is way more real than the FTW Championship. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah.

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Pretty much. You know, what are you giving this event out of prestigious 20 out of our prestigious
20? I mean, this is this is getting this is this is going to get I'm going to give it an 18. Yeah.

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18. Everything about this night, it was so good. You know, were there were there were there little
missteps? Were there some things that people other people that, you know, that like to criticize
every little thing would criticize? Maybe. But I'm not I'm not going to talk about those things.

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I just yeah, I loved it all. It was I was entertained from the minute I started watching
to the moment that it was over. And yeah, the only thing the only thing that would have made
it better would have been a surprise return by Jinder Mahal. Like that's the if you know,

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then it would have been then it would have been a 21. Yeah. But I think I think 18 is a pretty
spot on. Imagine if Jinder comes back at the Royal Rumble too soon. Maybe the year after it is. It
is a little too soon. We got it. We got to let it we got to let that cook a little bit. Yeah.
I let it cook for a while then let him you know, let him rack up a couple. He hasn't gotten a big

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goal. He hasn't got the 10 pounds of gold. Yeah, I'd like to see him just I like to see him. Matt
Cardona, the indie scene like to the point where everyone now at this point site. Well, OK, cool.
Now, when's Matt Cardona coming back to the WWE as Matt Cardona? Yeah, I want to be I want to see
I want to see Jinder Mahal back in the WWE. I'm going to see is it Raj Desi? Is that his new name?

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Well, you've I mean, yeah, it is. But I but I want to see Jinder Mahal.
Yeah, I want I want it to be I mean, no offense. I mean, Jinder Mahal sounds so fucking cool.
Like that's a cool name. I think all he needs is if he's not going to use it, I'm going to start
using it. I'm going to call myself R.W. Jinder Mahal Hellborn. J.R. J.M. Hellborn. Jinder Mahal

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Hellborn. I think all he needs to do a little bit is reinvent himself. Not a lot. Not a lot. Just a
little bit. Just like Matt Cardona did, like just give himself a bit of a harder edge. And I think
he could add a lot of intrigue to his character. I think that's what he needs to do.
What's that? Yeah, I'm oh, I'm I'm silently shaking my head. That's why you couldn't hear anything

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because it was all right. That doesn't work for a podcast. No, not an audio only podcast. No. If we
were video, we would you would have made all the sense. It would have exactly. Yeah. But we're not.
And yeah, so yeah. Oh, there we go. Eighteen. Eighteen. Eighteen. Eighteen.

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Other than that, I mean, whew. What else are we going to what else are we going to talk about?
What else do we need to talk about? What's coming up? I mean, we've got NXT.
NXT's got a pay per view this Saturday. We should probably talk about that after it happens.
After it happens. Yeah. We've also got Saturday night's main event coming really, really soon as

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well. Well, that could you know what? That might easy. That could be next week's episode because
we don't do NXT episodes very often. And since there is a what is the NXT? I don't even fucking
know what it's. I have no idea. NXT Deadline, I think. Is this dead? Yeah. So, yeah, unless

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unless unless something else changes, you know, we might wind up taking another week off. We just
randomly do that sometimes. Now it's the holidays, you know, we're we're living fast and loose.
Yeah, sorry. My pop shirt's having a mind of its own. There we go. All right. So why don't we why
don't we say tentatively we're going to review NXT Deadline next week? Yeah, I'm into that.

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I think that gives a lot to talk about, too, about just NXT in general. I also like the
Deadline matches. They're really fun. So yeah. And I like NXT. Yeah.
And I like Oberfemi. Who doesn't like Oberfemi?
I don't know. People that he's faced in the ring. Yeah, true. Likely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

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Pay per views. Can we call it pay per view? It's not pay per views. See, they're not. We're not

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paying for per view. We're paying a monthly fee to watch them whenever we want and also when they're
live. So. But they call it people. Yeah, but they but they call it right here in in Wikipedia. It
says this was WWE's final main roster PPV event. You know, they got that. They got it. Yeah.

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Bye.