WWE Elimination Chamber: Toronto Predictions - EP71

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Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Paul Heyman and as your wise man
I'm here to bestow upon you the wisdom that you're listening to
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On this episode we talk about the wild ride the final boss is about to take us on
the road to WrestleMania as we give our predictions for this year's
elimination chamber event I

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Did you know
that in 19
1965 and I didn't know this
That the original WWE championship
Championship was actually stolen
What

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Stolen stolen
Yeah, yeah in 1925 Brina San Martino
He was the second ever WWE champion. Yes, he was
The championship belt was stolen from his car when he was eating at a restaurant and they never actually managed to find the championship belt

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No shit
Yeah, so there is they had to just make a new one. They had to order a new one somewhere out there is
Yeah
the actual
WWW
WF
Heavyweight championship. Yeah, you're right. It is. Yeah, you're right. This is a WWWF championship

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Somewhere someone's got it and they're like I cannot like could you imagine
Actually having that and being like I can't fucking tell anyone about this because like I mean this is
1965 so you go think the people that stole it and they could potentially be dead now
So their kids have just got it in their attic somewhere and they don't even know about it. Yeah

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That's that's an unsolved mystery that like we should
Take it upon ourselves to make our entire the rest of our existence in life tracking down this championship belt
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how
Imagine that I've heard of this before
That's wild. So Sam Artina had beaten buddy Rogers to win the the win the title win the thing back in 1963

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It was in the midst of an impressive
2,803 day reign with the gold
The then WWWF had to commission another prize because it wouldn't have been great for Bruno to stroll down the aisle without his
Championship title so they had to make a new one. Yeah, that's that's wild
Yeah, dude, we got to find this belt

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We're gonna find it. Could you imagine?
Can you imagine we could find it? Yeah, could you imagine that?
That would be it was in New York. So that's that that was it down a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, that's cute
Sure does
Yeah, man, it's probably I don't know how many houses are in New York, but it's got me a one at least at least four

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Yeah, the very
More than four or five
Might take a little while, but I think we could do it. I think we I think this is I think this is a
Our new purpose in life. Let's just pack up this podcast until
Let's never do anything else until we find this belt
All right, cool done. Yeah. All right. Well the podcast is over then

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That's it so until we find this championship right and then we're back. Yeah, then we'll be back
No, all right. No, I know probably you know what we probably need the to continue the podcast to also
Chronicle our search for the title
That'll be a new you know what that could be a new segment
in
Each episode is we will update we will update our listeners on the progress that we've made in the search for the missing

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WWWF heavy Bruno San Martino's WWWF
World Heavyweight Championship
Yeah, most most weeks there'll be no updates at all. It'll just be like no new no new information has been found
Yeah, because we're not finding it, but we can try dude this attitude
I'm dude. What's with this negative attitude lately?

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Man, you don't believe you don't believe in Joe Henry versus John Cena for the TNA championship
We'll get to that later. We'll get to that later
Yeah, we'll talk about that. Yeah before that
Before we talk about
What what we'll talk about on another episode. How about we get to this episode?
All right, how's about we talk about?

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Uh WWE Toronto elimination chamber predictions
Yeah, what the elimination chamber Toronto there we go predictions predictions
Yeah, this is almost perfect timing for

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Goes out tonight then sweet because then we've got our
Our predictions out like to a couple of days before the event happens, right? Which did we we haven't done our predictions
We have not so that's the perfect thing to do. Yeah, so that's yeah
Why don't we start why don't we start with that because there's there's definitely some other things we can talk about
I mean we've got oh, yeah, there's plenty. There's always there's always lots of hell

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We haven't even spoken about what happened with the rock last week. You know, we've got yeah, we've got a little
The entire week has been
Yeah, since since NXT
Yeah, has been amazing. We've got we've got yeah, we've got legends and future greats to talk about too
I don't know. I I hope you've actually gotten a chance. I haven't because there's no I mean

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I there's no way of watching it in the UK. Dude, you got to go to that website
Yeah, I do don't I yeah, that's what that's where I watched it. How many episodes has there been so far?
Only two only two you could yeah, you could catch up tonight by the time we record another episode this weekend
Yeah, yeah, I might I might do it on the Sunday because I'm free all day Sunday

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So I might watch the Chamber and then maybe watch those two. Yeah. Oh, that would be great. Yeah, that'd be a great idea
Yeah, well, so we'll so maybe we'll talk we'll talk more about that then
And a later in the next episode or later
Yeah, whenever what it was depending on what we get to today and what we decide to talk about
That's another one and who knows yeah, that'll actually

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Air but anyway, yeah, let's talk about the elimination chamber to
Mara tonight Saturday
Saturday night. Yeah
Well, I got the car. There's only four matches, which is crazy. Yeah that I I heard that I heard someone mentioned that and
Now there's only four matches announced there could

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Smackdown is still tonight. We don't so something good
But you gotta think you gotta think about it though like the chain matches each with entrances and everything
They're about an hour each right? Yeah, they are still about an hour because you've got
You've got four pods that open every five minutes. That's 20 minutes. Yeah, that's 20 minutes for sure
Then that's 20 minutes of entrances, right? Yeah

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And then maybe a video package and then the rest of the match so
Yeah, that whole it's so that's two hour
That's about two hours right there and then you got two other matches
That's like half an hour each
That's three and then you've got the whole segment with the rock and Cody roads
Which is gonna be probably half an hour in itself because the rock and Cody roads both have long entrances
So wait, what is that's a full paper view? Okay, so what is the thing? Oh?

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Oh, oh the rock and the rock and Cody roads is the I need I need your answer to my yeah
He wants his answer at elimination chamber. Gotcha. Yeah, that's that that's a whole 35 40 minute segment
Exactly cuz you know cuz
Who know I have no idea who else is going to be involved you you've got to you've got to think even though Seth Rollins is and well

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Yeah, Seth Rollins and see him punk John Cena
Drew McIntyre logan paul damian priest. That's the that's the men's elimination chamber, but yeah, let's start
Let's start from the bottom like well the men's elimination chamber is gonna really tie in with this whole rock and Cody thing
I think so let's let's get to that last we'll start from the bottom of the list here. I'm on Wikipedia at least

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Okay, I'm on wait. Yeah Wikipedia shout out to Wikipedia support Wikipedia
So if we start off with Sammy Zayn and Kevin Owens an unsanctioned match. Yeah
Uh
I expect a lot from this match. Yeah
I'm that wasn't a sigh that was a that was an exhale of like I need to

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I need to remember to stretch before watching this match, you know
Cuz
Cuz I'm gonna get I'm gonna hurt myself
Watching this match probably. Yeah. Yeah, could a pull a hammy watching this one. Yeah. Yeah, this this is gonna be
we've
There's not a single person that can say they don't want to see same as a versus Kevin Owens again

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In it. We all want to see we always they remember that t-shirt they released years ago fight forever
Like that's that's true. We want to see them to you fight forever
We always want to see them and if you and and the only people that might be thinking
That they don't want to see it are people that haven't really seen it like who need to see it
Who need to be the who need to be seeing it with fresh eyes like

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fresh like again, this is another
New eyes are on the product. There's a lot of people watching wrestling. There's a lot of people watching wwe right now
That are tuning in for the pay-per-views to peale is the whatever you want to call them now
It doesn't matter, you know peacock because they're on peacock still in the u.s. There is still

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It's still getting a new audience
And that new odd and that new audience deserves to see sammy zane versus kevin owens every
Every era of of wrestling fan gets to should
Deserves to see sammy zane versus kevin owens, you know in a in a match where there are no rules like
I am I am so hyped for this

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I don't I know where I know we need to make predictions here, but
I I think the prediction. Oh, I was getting a little another
Weird interference there
No, did you notice that that interference did show up on the it did it was in the audio feed

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Oh, yeah, I did see that. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, you know, it's probably you know what it could be
it um
It could it could be like my cell phone it could be it could be pulling interference off the cell phone if I got a notification
Probably yeah exactly
That that's that's probably the most likely thing and not not something as arius or

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Um or a glitch in the system. Um
No, what was I saying? Um
I don't think anyone wins. I I feel like I I almost feel like my prediction is a no contest
Because what because what I don't know because like we said this we said this about the uh the match and nxt didn't we uh with uh

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Two people's names. I can't remember and what match it was but um even pay even page in javon evans
That's a yeah. Yeah, uh
But I don't know it and it all depends. I'm trying to look forward here
and see where either of these two end up come
WrestleMania, yeah, I'm sure like both going to be on the card like I mean with everything that's going on with carrying across

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Essentially stalking sammy zane. You got to think that yeah
You know, we're gonna have carrying across versus sammy zane and didn't we call that weeks ago
Did we call that like several weeks ago?
Before the for WrestleMania. Well, no no the the
Sammy zane sammy zane and carrying cross that's been going on for a little while now

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It's been going on for a bit. Yeah. Normally normally with carrying cross. He kind of floats around the you know backstage and kind of
Focuses on the meltable people but yeah, he seems to be a shout out that real that real is still
You know still hanging strong and still get still getting new views. Uh, yeah, it's doing well
You know even two weeks two weeks later, which is great. Uh, but yeah, he's uh, yeah

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I mean he seems to be quite solely focused on
sammy zane and I think if you go to
Uh carrying across honestly if you want to go just follow carrying crosses fucking social media, man
Like yeah, his instagram like the stuff he posts like even if he's not on raw
I don't think I don't think we have to tell anybody that I'm sure most anybody most people listening

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And probably coming in from that to shout out to all our new listeners and followers by the way. We got a whole yeah
Uh, but like yeah, definitely like he even if he's not on raw he'll he'll keep his storyline going regardless, which I love
I'll absolutely love that
Yeah, but I can't I can't

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I don't I don't know that I can pick a winner here like
Like what what happens
What what's the path if if kevin owens if kevin owens beats sammy zane just and and he's mad at him for
For the perceived slight of him not helping him win. I get it. I I get it, but what I've got it. I've got it

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I've got it. Okay. If we are gonna pull carrying cross into this situation and following on from here
I feel like we need to get get to a put so you did you saw raw this past week, right?
I saw raw this past week. Yeah, and sammy zane was saying like he actually went to kevin owens house
Like kevin owens went to his house, but he thought better of it and left right right

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So that means that sammy zane is like he's always like the good guy always been the good guy and he he doesn't go to nefarious means
Right. Yeah, I feel like in this match
There'll be a moment where he has an opportunity to do something to kevin owens that that is like career ending
You know like truly truly nefarious. Yeah, because he never because because he never sammy zane never really pulls the trigger

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Like even even on roman reins
It took it took forever
For him for him to pull the trigger and it was only after and it was only because of kevin owens
Yeah, that exactly. So what if in this match we we have this situation where
He he's he's there and he's got this opportunity to really basically really fuck up kevin owens

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Yeah, and he does that's where carry that's where carrying cross gets involved because carrying cross is the guy
That influences him to do it. He's the devil on his shoulder and he tells him
Yeah, what you're waiting for get it done get the job done. Yeah, and then
Other one other one. You're gonna win the match
Yeah, you're gonna do it
When sammy zane could be super regretful of what he's done and then he'll blame carry and cross for it

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I don't
I don't know
I I I I don't well
I I'm 100 on this ride with you up until
I think I think this path this path
Makes we turn sammy heel
Even as even we turn sammy heel on owens by having him

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Give into give into the darker more nefarious like you said the nefarious acts that
Could could could really really put him out injure him for you know
And I guess it's not necessarily turning him here. It's more just making him
It's giving him a darker side because I think you know everyone

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Hates yeah accepting this dark new it's just accepting a darker path
Yeah, because I think you know the the the crowd
Hates kevin owens if whatever sammy zane does to him the crowd like it right right
And so that also makes a tapping into a darker side. Yeah, and so it so then it becomes um

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It becomes really a morality thing. Are you cheering?
You know, are you cheering sammy zane because you want us because kevin you want to see kevin owens lose because of the bad things
He's done or are you now?
cheering for
Violent for the violence of it. I guess I guess I do this violent thing and then on raw

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He could uh, he could he could that's how he could turn on the crowd
He's I did this horrible disgusting thing and you cheer and you all cheered for yeah
Yeah
Yeah, I like I like it. I like it
Yeah, I like that. I think we have these we have these lot there. They're a lot more complex to heel turns like
It took me it took me. We've talked about this. It took me a while to get on the on the new new day

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Train yeah, it's taken it's taken everyone a long time. It took it took a while. Yeah, it took it took a while
but but that's also because that train was
Really slow
Lee moving at the big like it was easy to catch up to that train because that train was really crawling for a while
Yeah, you know
um
And then you know and then everybody jumped on and it's got some and it's got a little more momentum

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And I think that was probably the right thing to do
They're they're I agree. They're doing a really good job of letting things simmer
Yeah, even even the small things that you don't just you don't need an answer right away letting letting them go out for weeks
And then just not get any mic time
Yeah, the booze perfect because then you because then you're just holding it out. It's the crowd. It's literally the fans

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That are dragging it out. You know
Yeah, yeah, exactly
Uh, anyway, so what do you but what do you think who do you think who's gonna?
Is someone gonna which case I'm going I'm going for sammy zane because I feel like in order for sammy zane's
story to
Continue here. I feel like he needs to get the win see that makes sense. You've worked you've worked me into the into into a

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Decision there too. I like that because because owens can afford to lose
Yeah, and owens is a kind of guy that can it can just constantly lose and he will never
It won't affect his character and his
His right because his presence because it's the because it's especially because this is an emotional
Match. This is a grudge match. This is a

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You know, this is another one of those sense of betrayal by a brother
Right exactly
Yeah, oh, excuse me
Actually, is that a cough or sneeze? No, that's just caught that's just coughing
No fair no. How's your uh, your bronchitis doing that?
Yeah, pretty much it's all pretty much cleared up like that. Oh good. I've been yeah, I've been feeling I've been feeling really good like

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Physically a lot better, but yeah, but it's also now like all right now
It's gonna get warm it was in the 50s and now it's in the 40s
It's now gonna do that little ping pong anything which is which always yeah
Yeah, we've had that this week
But it's me and heather went out for a walk in the park just a little while ago because it's the sun
Today's like the first proper proper sunny day and it's only like 10 degrees. I don't know what that is for you

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But it's just like you can just you can just about feel the heat
Yeah, yeah, you can just about feel the heat of the sun, you know, yeah, and it's just like oh duh here it comes
Here it comes. Mm-hmm. Yep. So yeah, so I'm so I'm yeah, but I'm ramping up for I'm ramping up for the spring
spring allergies
shit to to

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Come into effect by next month
Right. All right. So sammy zane. So so we're thinking sammy zane goes to the dark side. I think we think he gives in
he yeah, he gives in to
the the you know the
Whatever, you know, whatever you want to call it
The cross effect the cross effect. Yes the cross effect. That's what we that's what we whatever you want to call it

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Call it the cross effect because that's what we
Think it should be called
Yeah, yeah, all right. I now here's now here's another question
Coming into predictions. What where do you predict this is in the card?
I'd probably put this first
Yeah

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Yeah
Okay, I think about it. Uh, I mean, I know it's gonna be hugely violent
Uh, and I I do expect to see blood in this match. I think it's similar to the uh
CM punk drew McIntyre hella in a cell match. Yeah, uh, but let's not forget that match was also first match of the night as well

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Hmm
And that was like hugely personal. So I think I think it's going first
Uh, I'm concerned. See having this match first
It makes me concerned about the next match the next match up on the list
Oh, actually, no, it won't be first. They always open and close with the elimination chamber. Yeah, that was the other thing

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I thought yeah, yeah, so the first match should probably be the women's elimination chamber. That's how
That's how I think I would go go at it
But then but then at this point
I think I think at this point it's got to be it's got to be the women's
Elimination chamber if if we if we have elimination chambers bookends
It's going to be the women's elimination chamber first because the men's

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Elimination I think the men's elimination chamber has
More story there. There's more stories involved. There's more story into it
But there is a case for having it go first, right because
Because that can go at this right because if you have the men's elimination chamber first and then
After that you have the whole Cody

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And rock situation if Cody Rhodes says no
You could have the winner of the elimination chamber come out and then be the rock's guy instead, right?
He'll be
Whoever that is the rock could team with whoever that person is right?
Christ, you know who it's going to be, right?
Logan Paul it's going to be Logan Paul
It's not gonna be Logan Paul. It's gonna be it's gonna be

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We'll get to it. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. I've got theories. I've got theories
All right, Tiffany Stratton and Trish Strattons versus Nia Jackson, Candice Larray
I'm worried that this is now going to be in the oh, and sorry. I was gonna say if elimination chamber goes last
The men's elimination chamber goes last and Cody says no
Then I could see the rock getting involved to help one of these people win, but we'll get to that later. Okay. Yeah, okay. All right

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Tiffany stratton trish strattons nia jacks, Candice Larray
Got to be Trish and Tiffany, right? Yeah, I feel like there's no it's in Canada. It's in Canada. Yeah. Yeah, there's that's that's sort of like
This is a no-brainer. It's a it's gonna be great to see Trish wrestle again. She's you know, it
It's going to be a it's going to be a fun match with a heart with it with a heartwarming finish

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And and that's all that and that's all you have to have you don't need it
You don't really need anything more because because Tiffany is gonna face
Charlotte at WrestleMania, so that's already set like
You don't need you don't need anything more than that. Um, it's it sucks a tip. It's I really think that Tiffany's gonna lose

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To Charlotte to Charlotte
But
But that would be okay. I mean, it's Charlotte flair like that's if you're gonna lose to someone
There's worse people to lose for these two. Yeah lose to Charlotte flair because it is Charlotte flair and that's a thing
I know I know this and shit it's okay because
It's okay to lose to Charlotte flair because it's Charlotte fucking flair

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Rearly has faced Charlotte at WrestleMania twice and the first time she faced her she lost and the second time she won
Yeah, so the same the same course could go for Tiffany Stratton. Yeah, Tiffany. It's it's it's not going to it's not a bad thing
You know no
I
Know but anyway, yeah, that's I mean there's not I don't really think there's anything else that we need to think about in that match

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Not really. I will say though quite cool. There are there are more women performing on the show than there are men
Yes, there are yeah
Yep, which is great. Good to see that's cool. Um, all right the women's elimination chamber match
Live Morgan Bianca Belair Alexa Bliss Bailey Naomi and Roxanne Perez. Um

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There's a lot there's a lot going on in here
A lot of moving parts. We've got Naomi in back where they're no longer tag team champions. So I guess you know, they probably will team up
I can see them maybe
Well, actually I can see I can see, uh
I still think that Naomi attacked core. Um, um

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Um
Jade Cargill
Yeah, I still I like
I still don't know if that was the case. I still think that we're gonna
Like she'll attack Naomi after she's eliminated from the chamber. She'll get attacked by jade Cargill. That's what I'm saying that oh

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Okay, that you know that could be yeah, we haven't heard anything the funny thing is we haven't heard anything about her actual status
either like they haven't made any mention of
A return for her
No, you know, which is which has been kind of
It's been interesting the way they play certain things of course with with with this storyline

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it's been
knowingly
Obfuscated like they're just they're they're not they're not giving you any details purposefully because
Because we know that we know she's not really injured
like in real life, so
We're just letting the the story play out. There's no need to there's no need to make fake details about things that people know aren't

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Real we're just we're just letting the story play out and we're suspending the disbelief
Because because they're not talking about they're just talking about who did it
Exactly. Yeah, and and right. Yeah, and right now they're trying to give that swerve that it was
The question is Morgan and yeah, the question the question isn't how is she doing the question is who did it?
Yeah, that's why that's what I love about it

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exactly um
I I man it's still that's a big that's a big question
um
Because they could they could easily be of course they could be swerving us and of of course it could be Naomi
But why but why would it have been Naomi is it just because of is it just

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jealousy over
Just think jealousy over maybe that they were the big three and then jade
and uh
And Bianca went off and became tag champs and she was kind of left and forgotten about
So she blamed jade cargo because jade cargo was the newbie on the block. Sure. That's that's I mean, that's ease
That's an easy
That's an easy storyline to grasp

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It's you know, it's perfectly plausible. It's reasonable
Jealousy is a thing
Naomi made Naomi made her return to WWE at the Royal Rumble last year and jade had only recently made her debut
so
Yeah, I guess jade, you know, Naomi could be like I was here first kind of thing that oh, yeah

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Or it was Bianca bella
Or it could have been it could have been Bianca that wanted her that was that was
You see Bianca could also have the jealousy of here's another
Big money, you know, she's she's the strongest the fastest the toughest
You know all the est things and then jade cargo comes in and she's literally all of those things

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and and
Some some might think a little more in certain ways
And so that that's another easy. That's a swerve within the same story of
Exactly jealousy and jealousy from within I totally get either one of those
um
I think the matchup that we all want to see is obviously Bianca and

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Do we want to see it? Do we even want to see that though? Like this is that here's that's a real question
Dude is that's been the thing that people have been saying since the beginning is oh, I can't wait to see
Bianca bella versus jade cargo
But do we really actually want to see that or do we want?
Or do we want them to be friends and be like the best like why can't they why can't they just be tough and both be

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Faces and because it's not a wrestling and it awaits these to a fight in the end. Yeah, but yeah, but why?
I guess I guess my thing is why
Why do why do we have to compare them to them like even though even though they're obvious
There's obviously reasons to compare there's people people are comparing everybody everybody for things, but like

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I don't know there's there's
There's almost I I almost just feel like there's more in
it's it's sort of like protecting john sena's face run because
Because if you because if you put if you put either one of them against
If you put them against each other then one of them has to be the heel like and

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and you don't
I don't really want I don't want Bianca to be a heel. I don't want jade cargo to be a heel jade jade cargo
I I don't want either one of them to be heels. I want them both to be faces
Like you know, I hear that I hear that I think I think you could definitely go like Bianca's been a face now for quite some time
And I think we all know that Bianca can do well as a heel. She's been a heel before

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She she can do. Yes. She can do well as a heel. Um
but I
I think I think everybody even even wrestlers have said numerous times
It's easier to be a heel
Because you get to because you can do think you can do things as a heel. You can't do as a face
So you have more you have more things at your disposal to do

(32:33):
um
Yeah, no, she she was she was definitely a great heel
but
I I just I like her as a face the same way as I loved bailey as as that as that
As that just unwavering baby face of you know that positivity like yeah, I don't know so
I the point I'm saying is I don't want it to be Bianca because I don't want Bianca to

(32:58):
Turn I don't want I don't want it to be a job professional jealousy
You know between between the two of them. I would even even they Naomi one. I'm like I I don't want it to be
I don't want it to be
I don't want it to be a job professional jealousy and
You know comparing you know comparing them to each other or whatever

(33:21):
I'd rather it be I'd rather it be if it was live Morgan
If the goal was if the goal was make people think it was Naomi
Yeah, so so that they can sew the seeds of doubt
Then that I get
It could have been like they could they could they could roll it any which way because

(33:43):
It didn't have to be someone who was even there at the time
I mean some people online saying
Still think it was cody Rhodes that did it. I don't know why or how I don't know. I don't know why it's I don't know
It's a threads thing. It's a it's a wrestling threads thing and I don't know where it's still going
I don't know. It's on it's a threads thing. It's a it's a wrestling threads thing and I don't know where it started

(34:06):
Danny the brain might know
um
I don't know how it started, but I know a bunch of people were just like it might it it was cody Rhodes
I don't know that's that's going that's going into like full full on whole yeah
Yeah, I yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's somewhere along those lines and I don't remember how it started
They won't get to that point. No. No, no, no, of course not

(34:27):
I think it's just one of those rolling like inside jokes that I just not a part of I'm not on the inside
Well, I'm not inside maybe is that whoever is winning this elimination chamber match is not the person likely that attack jade cargo
No, I don't think so
Who do you think is winning? I
Honestly think Roxanne Perez. I think it's good. I think it's Roxanne. I I think

(34:52):
I think the best this is this is the best scenario for someone like her in in her position
To get a to get a huge spotlight. She's a represent
She's she's now like the nxt rep on the on the main roster. She's been in she's been in two two rumbles, right?
Or three or she's been in three. I think maybe she's been at least two. Yeah. Yeah

(35:16):
um
She's she was in um
I believe she was in the queen of the ring tournament. Was she not she may have been
Yeah, if she might be right if she wasn't she my my memory says she is or she should have been
I think um, I think she might have been in the um intercontinental championship
That might it might have been one of those either way. She's she's had a presence outside of nxt

(35:39):
She has yeah, and I think this is an environment chaos environment is is somewhere that that Roxanne Perez
really thrives
um
And I think with so many other things going on
in there
It's just it's really going to depend on her placement too

(36:01):
But I that that's my that's my gut instinct is that is that Roxanne's going to win
um
Because everybody else is involved in store. Everyone else has storylines
um
I mean like I could I could see Alexa bliss winning
I could I could but I think
But I think that puts her that puts her in the that puts her in the title spot

(36:25):
too fast
Right, you know, she doesn't need
She doesn't need to be she doesn't need to win the championship right away
But she certainly doesn't but but what she certainly doesn't need is to lose
Against the champion right away either like right she can she can make a she can make a feud out of this
based on who based on who

(36:48):
Uh defeats her
um
She could you know if rock if Perez Perez pins bliss and then rocks and then
Alexa bliss starts the feud with Roxanne screwing her out of the title
You know even like there's I could see I could see Alexa bliss and live Morgan
Starting something here because you could end up with the Wyatt six versus the judgment day at WrestleMania because

(37:12):
Right now the judgment day no one in the judgment day has anything for the rest of mania. Yeah, they're
That's a whole other thing. We need to we need to talk about but but I know what they're they're
They're in the valley the judgment day is in the valley right now. Um, yeah, yeah, which of course they need a they need a break
They need a break. They need a break from from holding down

(37:34):
All of the intertwined storylines for the last like two and a half years on rock
I think I think they're they're they're on purpose in in the well
I mean, they've just won the women's tag team championship. Oh, yeah
On the men's side of things like I think they're they're on purpose in the sense that they've written in that way right now
Because obviously yes talk about new members being born. There's there's obviously Finn Balor

(37:55):
Who's like a bit of a losing streak and they're arguing with Dominic all the time
There's a lot. There's a lot going on and then that's that's the growing pains of a lengthy
Uh of a lengthy faction
That yeah that really that literally has no original members at this point
Finn Finn Balor is not an original an original member of the judges. There's zero. Yeah, you're right

(38:18):
There are original members. Um, and and and that causes that
ultimately causes a forced
power struggle power shift
um
you know and and
What does that where's that gonna lead? I think it's gonna I think it'll depend on it will certainly depend on

(38:40):
whether Dominic or Finn
Get their hands on a title first
Um and how that and how it happens um
But I would love to I mean I'd love to see Dominic get a title before Finn does because I just pissed Finn off
So wait a second. What was your weight is so wait? What was your prediction for the women's?

(39:03):
Uh chamber match
The winner you mean. Yeah the winner
Um, it's a tie really is a tough one. I was gonna say Alexa Alexa bliss, but I don't think so
We can eliminate in fact. I think I think I'm gonna eliminate Liv Morgan and eliminate Bailey eliminate
Naomi
So I think honestly, I think it's down to

(39:24):
And I eliminate bliss. I actually think it's probably down to Roxanne Perez or
Bianca Belair to be honest. I think there's a lot of
I think a lot of people do want to see Bianca Belair versus Rhea Ripley as well
Yeah, yeah, but I think they can see that but also I think they could see that anytime
You know in in a sense in a sense Bianca's not not that she's not not that she's not

(39:49):
I mean she's a former world champion several, you know multiple times
But but she just
We don't even necessarily know that the tag team is split up yet
You know, they just they lost that they lost the tag titles that doesn't necessarily mean they are even split up
They they might want to get the tag titles back

(40:09):
Um, yeah, also jade cargo might want to jade if jade returns regardless of who took her out
She might want to shot at the tag titles back
Because she never lost them
Um, right. So there so
That's sort of where I feel I almost feel like Bianca and Naomi's story is still tied to the tag titles

(40:29):
Lives, you know, half of the half of the champs right there
Yeah, I mean
If I had to if I had to make a if I had to make a choice between the two
Roxanne being my number one. I think it I the other the other I think it could be Bailey
Because I don't think beyond possibly Bianca and Naomi they their story is still their story is still revolving around the tag titles and jade cargo

(40:56):
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, I
It's
I'm gonna go for Roxanne Perez then as well. Yeah, come on over to my side, baby talk about talk about that
Cross-effect
Yeah, this is how this is think help one heats gotcha

(41:18):
As you say every everyone everyone else in that match. I feel like it's too involved in something else
um
But I do think I mean well hell both both will get to the men's chamber right now. I guess because I I think both
Both of these chamber matches are really highly unpredictable to be honest. Yeah
um

(41:38):
so
men's elimination chamber
Um, John Cena CM punk drew McIntyre logan pool Damian priest Seth freaking Rollins
This is one of the most star-studded elimination chamber matches there. I have ever been. Yeah, dude. Um
Yeah, I mean this is this is giving
old school like undertaker triple H

(42:02):
John Cena vibes like yeah
Just the it's the the top tier talent in the company
I will say so I'll take I'll take Damian priest and Seth Rollins out right now
Damian priest. I just don't see it happening. I don't know where he's gonna go after this
Yeah, I'll ends because I feel like it's gonna end up with Seth versus Roman at WrestleMania. I think Damian. Yeah, I think Damian

(42:25):
Yeah, let's go through I
How about we go through each one of these guys?
a little bit because
Damian priest. I think I think there's I think it's worth
It's worth talking about
That he needs
He's he needs a Reese. He needs a little bit of a reset. He's definitely some kind of reset. Yeah

(42:46):
He's he's in the same valley that the judgment day are on raw
But but like but it's fine because he's on smackdown and everything shook up and he
He's not in the position on smackdown that he was in on raw and that's okay
Um Damian Damian priest is one of those guys that he works a lot better when he's chasing, you know

(43:08):
And I think that I think that's I could
I don't know. I mean, I could see him maybe chasing after shinsuke Nakamura in the u.s. Title possibly
Yeah, I think he needs to get I think he needs to get involved in something that in that first. Um
Yeah, work at workers way back up because
So, you know faces got a chase and if you want and if you want him to be a face

(43:30):
Then he's got it that then he's got to be you know chasing something and you gotta be a face gotta be you gotta chase
Yeah, yeah, there's another there's another t-shirt idea ptw faces got a chase
Or we'll get that a stick. Yeah, I gotta I gotta make some I gotta make some graphics some some some logos and shit
Uh this month uh Seth Rollins. I mean straight up. I think he's gonna be facing Roman Reigns at WrestleMania

(43:57):
That's my prediction and I don't see him winning this match
I do see him being in the latest stages of this match, but I don't see him being the winner of this match
I will say
Well, we'll get to that in a second
Uh logan paul
No idea. He ain't winning. That's for sure
Uh, do I think that one day he ah, I don't know man one day. I think that one day he will be

(44:23):
Going up for the WWE championship hell. You might even be in the main event of WrestleMania. Do I believe that?
Uh, it's this year. No, I think you need to give him some time to be
I mean they said he's gonna be he's gonna be a full timer now, right and he's been on raw most weeks
Yeah, yeah, let's give him just give him some time to be a full timer before we pull that trigger

(44:44):
I'm up for that trigger being pulled
Yeah, and and you know what?
No, I know and and and thinking about it logically
I can
I could certainly see I could certainly see them swerving it a little bit that way
Like if yeah, if the rock seg if the rock and kody road segment happens before this chamber match

(45:06):
I could I could certainly see
Kody refusing the rock and Logan Paul coming out and being like, you know when I win the chamber when I win the chamber
I'll be your guy
You know and essentially like sort of playing playing that like
Playing that up
But no, I think I think him being on raw

(45:27):
I think let's let's let him
Let's let him work his way up and let it let's
Let him do the best the best thing for him as a heal is
Force everyone to actually respect the fact that he had that he worked himself back up like
Get you know
He's got he's got to get the ic title before he before he goes for the world title

(45:52):
And I think and I think that's a better progression
For someone like him
If you're gonna give him if you're gonna give him a champion if you're gonna give him a major championship
I think I think him as world world heavyweight champ is
More palatable than the wwe

(46:13):
Undisputed heavyweight championship that has the that has the long lineage let him have just think yeah
Have the new belt. Yeah giving him the wwe championship is a bit. It's it's got David archer
It it it well
It unfortunately. Yeah, it unfortunately because he's because he's too much of a because he was a known

(46:34):
A celebrity first
But yeah, but there's it but this is the time where some of these celebrities are really proving
Proving their worth here and he's and he's one of those undeniable and if you listen to like I've I've I've only recently started listening to
More of his actual like podcast too
So um, yeah, you know, we're we've been doing a wrestling podcast for almost two years now

(46:57):
It's you know, we got to do our own research too on what other people other successful people are doing
um
and he you know it like
He's he he sounds like an he's he's a cocky asshole, of course
But like he's also knows that is his brand. He's such he's so good at marketing

(47:19):
He's so good at selling you on hit on his persona. He was already like
But when you listen to him talk, I'm like no man. This is a dude who genuinely
He was such a he was such a big fan
And and he and he was and he was in a position where he could actually do the thing and do it right and he's doing it right

(47:41):
He's doing it right by making you by making you hate it
the people
Make him out to be honestly. No, he's probably he probably isn't like he's probably
He's probably a bit of a prick like whatever but if you watch him on his podcast like he he makes his comments about
You know being where he you know like
He's cocky, but when you when he makes his comments if you watch the podcast he has a smile on his face

(48:06):
He's doing it with a bit of tongue-in-cheek. Yeah
I don't think I don't think he's enough various individual going out of his way to like burn down
Pop it, you know like burn like no, he knows houses down
He's a smart dude and he knows there is stock
In people wanting to see him get beat up. Yes
He he understands that people aren't paying to see him people are paying to see someone kick his ass

(48:32):
You know and he know and he knows that
That's like and and it's like dude how that is the professional wrestling that I love like that is that is that's a good thing
That's a good thing about
You know if he had gotten more into boxing or MMA like yes people will pay to see you get beaten up
Sure, but this is more sustainable because with boxing and MMA you're gonna have one or two fights a year

(48:55):
Yeah with that with wrestling you could have many as you want and it's also and it's also just more fun
Yeah, yeah, too. I like why like I don't know why any I don't know why anybody
would want to choose
Getting getting hit in the face as hard as hard as someone can possibly hit you in the face repeatedly. Yeah over

(49:18):
Pretending to hit people in the face and doing all sorts of other fun shit
And getting paid and getting paid more
Yeah, and getting and actually getting to like go and do stuff with cooler people
And and have fun and like and still beat yourself and still get beat. I mean still beat your body up even more
Act you learn how to act and you could have a career in films once you're finished

(49:40):
Yeah, and and not actually and not actually like yeah, like it here's here's my thing, man
You
Someone being able to physically beat someone else up in a fight isn't really impressive
Like to me in any way like like being a being a you know being a tough guy

(50:01):
And being like that that sense of like I'm I'm the meanest motherfucker in the room like I could beat you up
I'm tougher than you like
Whatever man, I got better. I got better things to do with my
Like so so the reality of it like that's why I like honestly this is total tangent, but like

(50:22):
the idea of
I don't even know where I'm going how I'm where how I can circle this back around again
Um, I when the tangent went spiraling
Um, well, I mean to follow on from the point like
Who's winning this match?
Yeah, I mean, yeah
We'll get one point to make about the boxing situation because I was I was at my friend's house

(50:46):
Recently and and coming up in the uk. There's a big boxing fire christie ubank jr. And and
And connor connor ben right
Uh, and they've got a big boxing fight coming up soon
um
and
I he had the press conference on and
The press conference was it felt like a bunch of guys because it was like obviously the two boxes

(51:11):
They're promoters and stuff like that. It felt like a bunch of dudes that like
Didn't know how to act
But they're honestly every time I see anything in MMA or boxing in the modern day now
I'm just like you're trying to play you're trying to play wrestler. I know they're trying to act tough
They're they're trying to act they're trying to act tough when they're when they're actually going to beat each other when they're actually going to physically beat each other

(51:39):
And they're and they're doing the acting part poorly. So it actually so it actually looks
funny like
Yeah, it feels
Um, it just feels it feels juvenile
Yeah, you know what watching a post
When the press conferences like that it feels like what people think wrestling is

(52:00):
Yeah, they like people that don't watch wrestling
They think wrestling is a bunch of guys that can't act who are like talking tough to each other like no actually that's boxing
And they stand because they stand there and then they pose and then they pose in their fighting stance as if they're going to as if
They're really trying to hit each other when it's like dude, you could just you could just take those photos

(52:24):
you could just take those photos on a on a green screen
and
Photo shop them together in less time
Yeah, but yeah, it's it is it is kind of funny when you when you put it that way like
The the actual mma and boxing are actually it's actually more of a joke
than professional wrestling is

(52:49):
Because they're dumb because they're the ones that are dumb enough to really punch each other in the heads
Yeah
Oh, we're gonna get so much fucking hate for that one. Yeah, I was about to say if anyone if any
Honestly, no because this one we're gonna get so much hate. Oh, you know what? Let's do it
Let's bring it bring on bring on the hate from people that that don't know how to have fun

(53:10):
Um, is that I actually I'm just looking now. It's just like I'm re I'm looking at a bunch of things that were said in this
in this press conference and it's like
But ultimately he will pay the price in the end. I'll have the last laugh the talking's done
It's just like it's like dude. That's what that is a that is a that is pro wrestling 101 promo

(53:31):
Yeah, like it, you know, that's that's legends in future greats, you know intro intro to the performance center promo
Yeah, it's like he's done what he had to do well done Chris. I'm building up the fight now more people want to get you
Now more people get to watch him get knocked out. It's just
Everything I'm reading here. It's just like you're I it's just like a promo. It's a wrestling. It's kind of it's all a wrestling promo

(53:56):
Yeah, it's exactly
I love it. I love it. Um, yeah, like
Okay, so okay, so we know so we know the lens not winning Logan Paul's not winning because I think because he's
Here are the three people that are most likely for me. So right we're gonna start here
With cm punk, right? Yeah now cm punk now because because if Cody Rose says no, right?

(54:22):
So cm punk's not teaming with the rock. That's not happening in the middle. You don't you don't think so
No, but there's too much of a story there because let's face it before
the cm punk left the wwe
It was the rock who beat him for the wwe championship
Right and he went on coca-cabana's podcast and had loads of shit to say about the rock about the fact that he thinks the rock

(54:45):
Took his base at WrestleMania
Of course sick of people like the rock taken time away from young people
So there's a story to be told there was cm punk
It ain't gonna be cm punk
Yeah, but isn't that the ultimate that's it's the ultimate swerve of cm punk becoming corporate, you know corporate punk

(55:07):
And I get it because he said he said he said how many times has he said i'm here for the money
I'm here to get paid. You know, you're right and and like that's
There's too much. I can't but I can see cm punk winning the match to face Cody
I the only way I can see cm punk was winning this match

(55:27):
Is if cody roads does align with the rock, right? That's how I see that match happening, right? I could also see we could also see cm punk
Fake a line with the rock
Just I mean literally austin did the exact same thing right when he
He he came out the next night in the suit and tie and then just gave vince the stunner and middle finger ripped it off like

(55:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can easily you could easily we've already because we've already seen how good
Phil Brooks looks in a well-tailored suit on
Pre-show panels when he was injured like
Dude can dude can rock a corporate a corporate suit
Like nobody's come out with a fucking pocket watch

(56:09):
And and and like a tie chain
and you know, um
I think it would be I think it would be a hilarious turn if
If he if he does it, but okay, so that's one angle. That's one or there's two angles with punk winning
There's two angles with punk don't see it with punk and honestly

(56:29):
I'll just to just to talk money. You're right for a second
He makes way too much fucking money with merchandise for him to possibly turn heel just yet
He will sure are you sure about that because dude you?
They you could he could rebrand the cm to corporate money punk

(56:51):
You know like you're right. Okay, like come on. It's right there. It's right there. You want it right there?
It could you're right new it on all right
All right, we'll go to we're actually we're gonna go in in order here in my mind anyway, john cna
So john cna john cna is the people person that a lot of people are talking about people could see john cna
Aligning with the rock to take on cody roads cody roads will ultimately say no to the rock

(57:16):
Therefore the rock will choose john cna john cna's done movies john cna's had ventures outside the wwe
john cna's later in his career
He could join or replace the rock in as the board of directors on tko. Those are actual things that could actually
Happen those are those are yes. Those are really real things that could really happen

(57:37):
Also, yeah, so with that that's how john cna is a possibility and and I will say this too. It's also it is also wonderful
It's wonderful that they have that as part of that as part of the things at their disposal because of
The amount of people that don't actually know what

(57:57):
members of the board of directors actually does
Yeah, and
And and I'll be honest. I'm also one of them like I don't I don't know
I don't know exactly what the role of a board of the board of directors or the directors
On the board or any of that stuff necessarily does and they probably all do different things based on whatever it's written in the fucking

(58:20):
Right, whatever it's written like
Yeah, but the fact is you don't actually know what the fuck any of these guys are really doing in that role or what that role means
in the grand scheme of things and that's and that's part of the nebulous like
Stuff about it all is like it. It's just such a great
It's a great level to be at because rocks the final boss rock is in that I'm your boss, but I'm also a character

(58:47):
In a in a way that in a very similar way that Vince was
It in this I mean like where is that where really is that a lot of comparisons made to saying that
But it's not rock is basically now the new mr. McMahon
The McMahon yeah the mr. McMahon character
Now the new mr. What it now there are other people who have tried to

(59:11):
They're there they've done it they've tna did it with Dixie Carter and that failed pretty miserably too from what I remember
Yeah, but this is the rock not Dixie exactly other people other people have tried to do it with varying levels of
successor failure
Right because not because not everybody is a good actor
And that and that's part of and that is part of it like that really is part of it

(59:35):
You need someone that feels authoritative that you know, yeah, man felt like he had authority because you knew he was the owner
Because you knew he really was really the owners. Yeah
And now we've got and of course because I was on the board of directors
It makes sense of course and of course that that character happened based on the greatest work of all time the Montreal screw job

(59:57):
Exactly Montreal worked every has worked over everyone for decades job
Not me man. All right, so
John C. Okay, so you think John Cena
You think this is a good win and go up against Cody Rhodes
And we've got you know
You could either have the rock aligning with Cody Rhodes and going up against John Cena

(01:00:21):
So John Cena to win his 17th world title has to like fucking
Come over hell in high war or
We could have a similar situation with WrestleMania 17 where
it's Cena versus Cody and
Ultimately the rock helps one of them and we have one of them shaking hands
With the rock at the end of the night kind of like read the end of WrestleMania 17, right?

(01:00:43):
So you could have a very similar situation there
or
That so you case you could have someone just not say yes to
To the rock until WrestleMania, but my biggest most for me my most likely contender here
Funny enough is actually Drew McIntyre and there's so much

(01:01:04):
Because right. Yeah. Yeah, I'll start with this. I'll start with this
Last year when Drew McIntyre was having some time off and it was really
Doubtful whether or not he would be staying on into WWE if you remember that. Yes. Yes, I do his contract run out
He signed a new contract

(01:01:25):
He was sent a sword
By the rock. Oh, yeah, it was put on social media the rock sent him a sword
Yeah, remember that thank to thank him for signing a brand new contract. Yeah. Does that does anyone else remember that?
Yeah, we got to pull that right. We're gonna find that and make a real also got
We've also got

(01:01:45):
At backstage off at them. We've also got a netflix on raw the first netflix on raw
drew
And the rock met each other backstage
And there was there was talk between them about a favor and then drew McIntyre whispered into rock's ear for quite a while
And then that was the end of their interaction now that looked like obviously at the time

(01:02:08):
It was just some sort of like out of character stuff
So what if they've been planting the seeds this whole fucking time and in the area of triple h
That's exactly what they're doing all the time. Yeah, they're planting seeds constantly
And I think that the sword the interaction backstage was all adding up to
Cody Rhodes saying no

(01:02:28):
To the rock and the rock now then choosing drew McIntyre
Fuck I actually saw an interview the other day and I'm not sure when it's from
But the rock was like in his tracksuit and he was living ass by like paparazzi essentially
Oh, who in the company do you believe could be the next big thing the next big star and he's like
Oh, I was chatting the other day to Roman Reigns about this in the locker room

(01:02:52):
And he said he mentioned he said the first person he mentioned was drew McIntyre. Yep. What does that say?
Oh, we figured it out. You figured it out
And you know what drew McIntyre's win in this match and he's aligning himself with the rock to be the new corporate champ
that is that 100% makes sense and
It tracks with the other two points

(01:03:14):
That reasons why both John Cena and CM Punk aren't winning
Yeah, CM Punk's whole thing CM Punk's whole big thing is
main eventing WrestleMania
Yeah, it doesn't have to happen this year either
Just because just because CM Punk's a little bit older doesn't mean he doesn't have a whole another year

(01:03:36):
He can still exactly he can finish his story next year too
And it's just we can we can drag it out and punk can and there can be a more of like
Oh, can he keep it up for a whole another year? Is he gonna run out of steam? Are people gonna?
No, there's so much. There's so much for CM Punk to do
Within this next year. There's still there's still Seth versus punk

(01:03:58):
We don't even have we don't even have Seth versus that Roman Reigns isn't even involved in this match
We can still sit up. We can still set up see him punk for Seth Rollins
And we did again. I mean, we know I know we had I know we had it on that
Favor is for CM Punk either
I know we I know we had it on the wrong on the on the raw
the Netflix debut
But that doesn't mean we can't happen again, you know

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Because that because that happened before that happened before the last year world rumble
last year
Cody Rhodes worked and Seth Rollins worked double g what's to say that we can't have
We can't have the winner of this match versus Cody Rhodes on night two
But we could also see Cody Rhodes first face something someone else on night one as well

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Yeah, what there's no reason there there's no reason why they can't
Someone can't force him to do that. Um the other point
That this brings up is that it still aligns with my
Insane but
100 percent
Possible if we all

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believe enough
That we can get John Cena versus Joe Hendry for the tna world heavyweight championship at
WrestleMania and that's John Cena's 17th world championship the tna heavyweight championship
It's a beautiful thing. Do I see it happening? Not on a million fucking no, but it's a beautiful thing
You know what you know why it has to happen this year is because

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Because there's never because there's not going to be an opportunity to capitalize on Joe Hendry's
Like
Extremely
Or get how his rise in popularity that that viral rise that he got
Is not going to like

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It's it's he's got it. He's got it there. There's nothing. There's no other I've got it. I've got it. I will one up you here
I'll see it's right John Cena can win his world championship
Anytime of this year. It doesn't have to be a WrestleMania and it probably doesn't have to be a WrestleMania
No, right, but I think there is a good way that you could have tna have some sort of presence at
WrestleMania and I think the perfect person that you could have Joe Hendry go up against at WrestleMania for the tna world heavyweight championship

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Is fucking a jay styles
That would be that would be pretty that would be pretty fantastic
Because that puts it puts over the tna and you know what giving it
That could be a nice that could be a nice bump
For both for both aj styles and then you could have aj styles versus john sena for the tna world championship at summer slam

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You just there weren't seen it was in the tna. I still I still think I still think that there is a way to make that
Make sense enough
monetarily and business sense enough that
In a way because we because we talked about how certain certain other companies relationships when they have when they have

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relationships with other wrestling organizations can be lopsided
And I think having something like this
It puts such a it puts such a high legitimacy on the tna world championship
because it's being recognized among
all of the other
wwe

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title reigns as john sena as one of john sena's reign in the in the way that
rick flair's wwe title reign is is recognized amongst
rick flair's 16 world championships
A hundred percent, but I think let's let's face it. I think

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With with with john sena
Why are you fighting this?
Why are you?
There's so many people on the roster that could win the tna championship
And it's still have a big impact and a big yeah, but a big impact right john sena

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Is in his last year of his career
The wwe championship is synonymous with john sena. That's the one and he's the wwe guy
He's the guy that's yeah, and I get it right well then great. Let's have him go somewhere else in his last year
No, he is the wwe guy. I don't know he wants that he wants he wants the wwe championship

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Of course he does. He said that before the royal rumble. He's said that since the royal rumble
He said that he's entering the elimination chamber to win his
17th wwe championship. He wants a wwe championship
But joe henry wants but joe henry wants to fight john sena
Good for joe henry. Well, I believe the chance. You know what? I
I'm not not with that attitude

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Not if he had that if he had your attitude proper proper prick indeed
man, I can't believe and like
I mean, he's not britain. He's not british. He's scottish, right? That is british
scottish is british
Wait, what is it within the british isle? Oh, jeez. It's this thing again. God you guys

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I mean, I mean, I you you have so little land around you guys and it's so and it's still so complex
The british isles northern ireland
Yeah, wales scotland exactly northern ireland not the entire ireland ireland has its ireland
That's their thing ireland's got their thing going on. That's nothing but part of but part of ireland is part of you

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Like that's what doesn't and then part of it isn't and then the other part is part of a different thing
That's not part of the other thing. It's kind of like you guys you guys have got america and then then there's canada and then way over there
So laska and that's apparently part you guys do well. That's yeah, and I mean we've got we've also got so s why
Why is all the way over?

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Well, that's because worst
Yeah, we have we have individual states
Amongst yeah, so wait, what is the actual but the countries work independently like ireland is its own country
Right, so we have to go through this. We have to go through this at least twice a year
No, so the prime minister

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Of this country runs the british isles the prime minister who is whom?
Right now at the moment kia starma was boris johnson. Okay. I remember the name boris. I haven't even heard that name
It's so funny how you guys have no idea what's going on in politics over here
Yeah, I cannot escape what's going on over in your country right now. Well, I mean I also I can't I can't escape what's going on over here

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Either I tried to I don't to be fair. I don't know what's going on in any
politics anywhere including including here I
you know
I just know what's going on. I know I know the politics of wrestling. That's what I know
I think wrestling is the most beautiful. Actually, you know what I actually read something recently sammy zane said that like
He said that in the past the wwe would like

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Have like story lines and certain things
Focus on like politics. Oh, yeah, they don't do that anymore
Yeah, and they like we don't do that anymore. It's we're here to be an escape from that and in 2025
It's more important than ever to be an escape. Yeah for real. So enjoy wrestling
Uh, enjoy wrestling. That's right. Just be nice to people. Um, so so we're both

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So we're both thinking it's drew McIntyre, but that but see that leaves as well then that makes them
I mean, yeah, of course. I love that idea. Um, but that leaves because you're right
John Cena doesn't need to main event WrestleMania
John Cena doesn't need to win his title his title at WrestleMania
CM punk also doesn't need to main event WrestleMania. He can main event WrestleMania next year when john sena's not around

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Um, right and and though and then this year at some point we need to see john sena versus
CM punk. Yes, we still need to see john sena versus CM punk
One last and hell even this even this year we could we could end up somehow with sena versus punk at WrestleMania
Yeah, I mean that could still that could easily happen, but
That could why I think they should do they should do sena versus punk at money in the bank because that's where they had their famous match in

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2011. Yeah, that would be good
So that'd be a good way to run it back. That would be a good idea
Yeah, and then and then that could be a number one content or maybe that could be a number one contender. I don't know
I mean, it's john sena. He's just gonna he what's gonna happen is
He's just gonna say he's a number one contender next at some point tonight on tna. Oh no, that was last night

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TNA, I just I just saw a tna impact. It was uh
Overfemi in the hardies versus the system. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't I didn't get to watch that yet
Yeah, I have to try and find that later. Yeah
All right, so go drew McIntyre then yeah, so I think and last question last question

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Is cody roads aligning with the rock or not?
No, no because I did because I like this drew McIntyre angle
So I want to so I want to go with this. Yeah as well. Yeah
Yeah
But do I see an eventual huge heel turn from cody roads?
Yes, I definitely do

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And I feel like cody roads is going to be the most
Awful human being when he turns heel like
Awful, yeah, I get disgusting human being I wonder I don't know when that's and I and maybe that's
And maybe that's gonna come when it when it becomes seeing punk versus cody roads
Maybe
You know because that's still because that's still something that we haven't even talked about

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Like they have it in my mind right now in my head. It goes drew McIntyre John Cena CM punk
That's the order of which I had the probability the other three I don't see but those are the three people I see potential
and it goes drew
Cena punk in my mind
That there's moments where I think it's going to be Cena and I mean there's moments where I think Cena's going to be

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turning heel
Just to get this championship because I feel like
He's gonna be he's gonna be the undertaker against Brock Lesnar in 2015 when undertaker
Had to low blow
Brock Lesnar to win the to to it to beat him because he couldn't do it in any other means and I feel like that's
I feel like that's where John Cena's heading to he just he doesn't care how he's gonna do it

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Right because he's getting desperate because because the clock is ticking the the right just like it was for taker that and it was
And it was a self-imposed and the whole thing is it's also it was a self-imposed
Thing he made the decision to do this nobody
Nobody told him he had to do this farewell tour. Nobody told him he had to retire this year
Right like he made the decision and now

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And now he's gonna regret and now he's like
faced with
The morality of or regret. Yeah, depending on he said he set his own
Um stopwatch and now he has to yeah, so I definitely you know, I know and the thing is I'm sure like
Cena has said because face has got a chase man face has got a chase face got a chase, but I think I think um, you know

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face has got a chase until until they they realize that they uh
They can't get the job done and then they need to they need to be a heel to get the job done
Yeah, and I could see that and I know senior in in press conferences and interviews has been like
I'll never turn heel, but of course he's gonna say that. Why would he ever say that and it didn't like of course
Yeah, I'll turn here. That's that's yeah

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The heel thing to do is to lie is to be like, oh, well, I guess I lied. Yeah
Yeah, exactly. You can do that when yeah, there's a lot riding on this
This PLA PLE, so I'm really looking looking forward to it. Yeah, this is this is gonna this is really gonna shape up
at WrestleMania and I think I think the Drew swerve
Is that's that's gonna be something that

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Man, I think I think we're the first actually to talk about this. I have not seen a single person
Even hint at honestly same. I think everyone everyone's in the senior and punk
We're so ahead we're so ahead of things man. It's you know, we're seeing clearly now
We've got you know, we've got the cross effect is is helping us see clearly. Yeah, we know what's up. You know, what's up

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but yeah, um
fucking
I see that happening and uh
I think a lot of people will be shocked by it and then I think once it comes to
Raw and you know or Smackdown or whatever and they start revealing
All of these things that have happened in the last few months with the rock and and uh, Drew McIntyre. I think it will
It will surprise people because unless you're like looking deep you ain't seeing this stuff

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So right I think it's all been done for a reason. So that's where I'm at
Then I think um
All we gotta do then is
Uh shout outs, right?
Yep. Yeah
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Uh, that is where we get most of the information from all of the stuff that we do

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To do it and not only that I don't know if you know, but there are over
300 playable superstars in this year's game, which is just that's huge in
Saying that's a huge roster. So not only that it's it's cross-gender. You can men can face women

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Oh, I saw that you can yes, they can have intergender matches
Intergea we have cross-gender intergender. That's what I meant cross. Well, I mean, yeah, same thing, you know same thing, right?
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I just just because I just because I decided I figured why not, you know
If you're gonna email us at punkstockwrestling at gmail.com
It's got to be something that you want to talk about so we'll talk about it
Um next week's episode. I have no idea what we're gonna do next
Um, well, I guess we'll be talking about elimination chamber. Yeah, I guess we'll probably be talking about elimination chamber because we're gonna do it after elimination chamber

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Um, yeah, so yeah, that's good next week's episode and then other stuff
All right
I guess that's it then right?
I guess that's it
All right, bye

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All right, perfect, holy fuck, that's a huge b. Oh my god, whoa
It did get in the ditch that get into your flat
No, no, it just came on the width it it made it literally hit the window and made a sound damn. That's a huge b

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That's a big b. I haven't seen a b. This is the first b of the year
Hey, we got it on and we got it on on the podcast too
Look at that
We'll put it we'll put it as a sting we'll put it as a stinger at the back
Ah, god damn it

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Sweet