December 17, 2024 • 40 mins
In the final episode of Purpose Project's first season, host Leslie Pagel and her friend Amy Helene reflect on their year-long journey exploring life's purpose. They discuss the importance of accepting change, personal growth through meditation and journaling, and the impact of living a life aligned with one’s true self. They celebrate the lessons learned from their episodes, revealing how purpose manifests in responsibility, achievement, and state of being. Leslie announces a short break before diving into Season Two, which will focus on how purpose shows up in the workplace. The episode ends with a heartfelt gratitude for the journey and anticipation for the future.
00:00 Introduction to the Season Finale
00:45 Reflecting on the Journey
02:31 Trusting the Process
05:11 The Power of Meditation and Journaling
10:08 Living with Purpose
16:17 Lessons from Purpose Project
25:05 Generational Impact of Purpose
27:43 Energy and Positivity
31:27 Looking Forward to Season Two
38:38 Conclusion and Future Plans
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And just like that, we havereached the final episode of
season one.
Hi everyone.
My name is Leslie Pagel.
Welcome to Purpose Project.
This season has been anexploration on the topic of
life's purpose.
It has been an explorationthrough conversations with
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individuals who have clarity intheir life's purpose and they're
actively pursuing it.
In this final episode, I amjoined by my dear friend and
partner in this Purpose Project,Amy Helene.
Together in this episode, wereflect on the themes that have
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emerged throughout the season.
We celebrate where we've beenand we look forward to what's
next.
Let's dive in.
For joining us on PurposeProject.
If you have been following alongin Season 1, you would have
noticed that I have beeninterviewing people who have a
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clear understanding of theirlife's purpose and are actively
pursuing that.
Today on this episode, we'regoing to do something totally
different though.
I have invited my friend, AmyHelene on the show and Amy and I
are going to sit here and have aconversation about this year,
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which has been a journey throughthe topic of life's purpose.
If you haven't watched episodefour, I would encourage you to
go check that out because inepisode four, Amy was also on
Purpose Project talking aboutthe origin of the And now we're
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back and we're going to talkabout the progress that we've
made since the start.
So thank you, Amy, for beinghere.
Thank you for inviting me back.
So it's been a crazy year.
A lot has definitely happenedover the course of this year
from that dinner where it allstarted to this To everything
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that's, that's unfolded over thecourse.
Is there, when you think backover the year, is there any one
thing that stands out over theothers or, you know, I think, I
think that the common underlyingelement of everything that's
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transpired is trusting.
When things are meant to end, sothat new doors can open and you
can start taking steps forward.
So what I mean more specificallyby that, when I was on episode
four, I was with the startupcompany and I thought that maybe
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that that was going to be whereI was landing.
And it became clear that thatdoor needed to close.
Um, and I was really hoping thatmaybe that's where I was going
to land, at least for a periodof time.
Yeah.
Um, but knowing, recognizingthat that, maybe that door was
meant to shut and something elsecould come in.
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Yeah.
Well, and as you were talkingabout trusting, you were saying.
I, um, also had a door closethis year.
So, um, our dinner was inFebruary.
The first recording of PurposeProject was in May.
Um, it wasn't released untilAugust, but I was recording
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earlier.
And at the end of June, I foundout that my position was been
eliminated.
And in the conversation, Iremember thinking, of course,
this is what is happeningbecause I'm being directed
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towards something new.
And I don't think if this hadn'tbeen happening, I don't think I
would have had that mindset.
But in the moment, I'm losing myjob.
My job is being eliminated.
I remember thinking my firstthought was, of course it is
because another doors opening.
That's right.
That's right.
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And I think it's hard sometimes,you know, you can take a moment
like that.
Prior to this year, maybe thereaction would have been a more
negative response.
Why is this ending?
Why is it happening to me?
But I think what we are findingthrough this course of
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exploration is, is that when onedoor closes, it's because this
new path is opening up.
And I think for both of us, Youknow, some of the things we've
been exploring, like meditation,has helped us to trust in that
process.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
I mean, I will tell you, it hasnot been easy to always trust.
Um, my first thought was atrusting thought, but when you
lose your job and You getrejection after rejection, after
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rejection from, mm-hmm Jobsearching.
Right.
It's, uh, it can be hard totrust.
Mm-hmm But you did mentionmeditation.
I, uh, and I had startedmeditating before I lost my job.
I think it was two weeks beforeyou and I met for dinner.
And you were talking aboutmeditation and I thought, okay,
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I'm going to give it a go.
But I do think that helped methrough some of those hard times
as well.
Yeah, you know, There was aperiod in my life where a
disappointment like a job lossor something would happen.
Yeah.
And it would just really pull medown.
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And I would think, you know,what could I have done
differently?
What did I do wrong?
A job search, you know, I feellike I'm qualified for this.
Why is it not coming through forme?
But I will tell you, and for me,it was, it's really via
meditation.
I have learned.
That, to feel some almost, Idon't know if excitement is the
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right word, but acceptance andit means what's meant for me
will come my way.
Right.
But it, that has not happenedovernight, Leslie.
I mean, it's been a journey tocome to that for me.
Mm hmm.
Well, and you used that wordacceptance just now, and it's
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become a little bit of a triggerword for me because you also
used it in the February dinnerthat started this whole thing
called Purpose Project.
And at the time I was reading abook called Radical Acceptance
and you use the word acceptance,you use it now, and it, it
really is this idea of justaccepting what is, there is no
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good or bad, it just is, and itmight feel hurtful, I did, I've,
I had a, months of really deepsadness that I was going
through.
And so it felt sad, but it wasneither good nor bad.
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It was just what was, I had togo through it.
And I think it's meditationthat's really brought me to
that, being able to accept, youknow, when you're meditating,
you might have those thoughtsfloat up in your mind, and you
observe them, and you let thempass.
Um, yeah.
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Yeah, I think for me,meditation, definitely, through
the second half of this year hashelped me.
But I've started journaling, soI've journaled every day this
year, except for one day Iforgot.
Um, and that's really helped meexpress feelings, process them,
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reflect on them, instead of justpush them down.
Which I imagine some of thathappens in my meditation as
well.
I think journaling is importantbecause it gives you more time
to really process through thethoughts.
There's something about theaction, you know, writing is a
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meditation in a way, right?
where you're going through thatmotion of putting your thoughts
into words and you're, becauseyou're scripting it out.
You're not typing it intosomething, but you're, you know,
handwriting those thoughts.
So that makes sense to me thatyou are processing in a
different way with journaling.
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Yeah.
I'm a bad journaler.
Like I'll start it and stop it.
Um, but every time I do it,There is a way of processing
information that doesn't processthe same with just thinking.
Yeah, and I was a bad journaleruntil this year.
I don't, I don't know why, butI've kind of, I did make a
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commitment to journal every dayand I've kept it.
Yeah, you've really developed aritual, really, with your,
because it's not journaling,you're doing it part of like
this whole.
Ritual.
It is definitely.
I've got a morning ritual.
That is a new thing for me thisyear that I love.
It's my favorite part of the dayreally is getting up and going
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into my morning routine, whichis all about grounding, becoming
grounded okay, so your year inreview is about accepting,
trusting, trusting that when adoor closes another opens.
Yes, and to trust my intuitionon things, too.
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So, you know, the startup ended,and I didn't have any, like, I
ended that.
I self ended it, which is alsovery unusual for me.
Typically, I wouldn't.
Walk away for something.
Um, but it was clear it was timeto walk away and I didn't have
anything lined up.
But then I had a networkingmeeting, but I, I, I felt that
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conversation immediately and Ithought.
This is where I'm landing next.
Like I just felt it deeply andit was a very long drawn out
process.
I think that breakfast was inearly May and it did not come to
fruition until I think I got theoffer maybe like late July.
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And so there were some bumpsalong the way with it, but I
just had this deep sense thatthis was meant to be.
And so I think part of thisjourney has also been really
trusting that intuition andinstinct, and I believe that's
present in all of us.
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It's just whether or not wechoose to tap into it and to
trust it and go with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So when I think about for methis year, this sense of freedom
is what I feel.
And I think part of it isbecause I have taken
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responsibility for my happiness.
And I was, I've been veryintentional with it.
This whole Purpose Projectstarted because our dinner and I
was thinking, I've got thisfeeling, intuition.
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I've got this feeling in my gutthat I'm supposed to be doing
something that has a meaningfulimpact on this world.
And I don't know what that is.
So I'm going to go explore it.
And I did it because you alsosay get out of your head and
into action.
I think that's the other bigpiece.
And I love that you saidresponsibility, because I think
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sometimes we have these momentsand we just sit in that moment
and we don't take a stepforward.
And I very much believe part ofthis is you have to take a step
forward.
You have to get out of your headwith it and take, even it's just
one little step, right?
You take one little step andthen you take one more step.
Yeah.
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And that's when doors open.
Janeva Shaw was on the show,episode 5, and she encouraged us
to do it even when we're scared.
I, I think that's the big thing.
Absolutely.
Yes.
Just do it.
One step and it doesn't have to,she also talked about one thing
every single day.
And it's just one little step.
Do it even if you're scared.
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I believe that.
I also think it just builds yourconfidence too.
Absolutely.
Well, and through all of that,yet going back to the, like the
word that came up for me, whichis freedom.
I, I have this sense of freedomover my life.
And, um, it's a new feeling forme.
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So I'm having a hard time evenkind of articulating it.
But I do think it was because ofthe responsibility, I went and
did it, did it scared, still I'mscared and, but I feel alive,
that's the another word, justreally alive, like I'm living.
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Yes, and I think part of that, Iknow exactly what you mean, I,
you know, I, you know, I I feellike at age 50, I feel like I'm
actually really living now in away that I hadn't previously.
So what is that for you?
How is that, how has it changedfor you?
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What do you mean how has itchanged for me?
So like for me, I feel like it'sbecause of Purpose Project and
what I've been doing with this.
So I think some of it's justComing out of reacting and
living from fear and trustingthat when one door closes,
something else is going to openup.
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But I have responsibility inthat.
And my responsibility in that istaking steps forward.
And really pursuing those thingsthat I feel internal joy from.
Um, I think for me, I can tellwhen things don't sit with my
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spirit and I used to kind offorce myself through those
moments.
Um, and I don't do that as likeI used to.
Right.
Yeah.
How did you flip that switch?
You know, I keep, I know I keepbringing up meditation, but
meditation is really been whathas transformed.
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In just so many ways, I don't, Idon't feel as reactive to
stressful moments like I usedto.
Um, I think it's made me trustmyself more.
It's made me trust my intuition.
I think it's made, I don't knowif it's made me more intuitive
or if it's just made me trustthat intuition.
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in a way that I didn't in thepast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what have you learned fromPurpose Project?
Oh, I've learned a ton.
I'll start by saying that.
What I'm walking away fromSeason 1 is having a really
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clear understanding of whatlife's purpose is and what it is
not.
Okay, so tell me more.
Um, coming into this, it was allabout, What am I supposed to do
and exploring life's purposeand, and I was thinking that
it's this thing that I'msupposed to go do that.
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That's what life's purpose is.
It's a goal.
It's, it's something to goaccomplish.
And what I'm coming to realizeis that.
Life's purpose is about being.
It's an alignment that we havebetween who we are, our being
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and what we do, our actions inthe world.
So it's not necessarily aboutaccomplishing things.
People have been on the showthat haven't had goals of
specific things.
Now there have been people onthe show that have had a goal,
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you know, and that's okay too.
And that is a purpose, but itreally is about this alignment
between understanding ourselvesand And, and making sure that
our actions line up to that.
And when we are in alignment, weare living out a purposeful
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life, a life purpose.
And I've also become reallyclear that.
Our purpose evolves over time.
Absolutely.
Yes.
And so that alignment isconstantly, it's, it's a
constant state of alignment.
We're not these stagnantindividuals, right?
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Yes.
We're in constant growth andevolution.
So to think that it's just thisone thing in our life.
When grandiose event justdoesn't.
Fit with how life works.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And we evolve and people havebeen on the show sharing their
purposes and it seems like theyhave fallen into a couple
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categories.
And I think that some of thatmight align with where they are
in their lives.
So one category is this categoryof responsibility.
Um, Brandi, talked about herpurpose right now is to be a
mother to her family, but that'sa responsibility, right?
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Janeva talked about caring forher mother when her mother was
dying.
That's a responsibility purpose.
The other is, is an achievement.
It's a goal oriented, Rhamatalked about creating schools
for girls And then the thirdcategory of purpose is about the
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state of being.
So an example of that, CrystalMorse was on the show episode
two, I think, and she talkedabout her, how her purpose is to
be a light in people's day.
That's just like a state ofbeing, you know, right.
And so you can see how, as yougrow in your life, how it might
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flow into different.
Types of stated purposes in theworld.
Absolutely.
You know, and I, the other thingI would say to that is I think
sometimes when we ask people,what is your purpose in life?
It seems like it needs to bethis big grandiose thing.
It could be that I held the dooropen for someone and it made
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their day.
Cause I didn't slam the door intheir face or what, you know
what I mean?
Right.
It can be just these littlemoments that you have.
In life.
I think that is a paradigm shiftthat we have to create to make
the topic of purpose, feel moreaccessible to people because
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there was one episode.
Where, Ethan Butte came on theshow and he doesn't have a
life's purpose.
Yes.
And one of the things that hewas talking about is it feels
like it's so big and grand andhe said there's fun in that, in
that idea of purpose, but itfeels so big and grand and to
have just one life's purpose.
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And so I do think coming out ofseason one.
There's some paradigm shifts andthat's one is it doesn't have to
be this big thing It really isabout this alignment between who
you are and how you're showingup in the yes I love that you
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said that living this life inalignment It seems like it
should be so easy to do, right?
Just be who you are and takeactions in life that But there's
so many different societalpressures.
Yes, it can make you pivot fromthat alignment Yes, so it really
requires a lot of internalstrength To live an aligned life
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it I agree with that And I thinkthe other thing I would add is
Um Looking at yourself in themirror, and accepting everything
you see, and being honest, fullyhonest with yourself, you don't
have to tell anyone, but beingreally open and honest about
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what you're scared of, what,what shame you might have.
And accepting, and that is sohard to do.
Yes.
It almost makes me tear up,Leslie.
Because you want that foreveryone.
To feel like you can live thelife of who you fundamentally
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are.
Everyone should have that.
Everyone should feel thatfreedom to be able to do that.
Right.
But it is hard.
Why is it so hard?
Because we're afraid of thejudgment, right?
That we might experience byliving that life of who we
really are.
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Yeah.
Right.
What do you think?
I think that's true.
I do think that, judgment is abig piece of it.
I also think in a lot of.
What I've been learning thisyear comes from Purpose Project,
but it comes from other sourcesoutside of the podcast.
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And one of those is Jim Fortin.
And I know you've been listeningto some of his podcasts.
Um, so I've been consuming hispodcasts and he talks a lot
about judgment.
But he also talks a lot aboutthe stories that we tell
ourselves and these stories thatwe tell ourselves Come from our
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childhood Mm hmm, and we don'teven know that we're telling
them to ourselves But they arestories that have been rooted in
Um, our childhood as our brainswere developing and we were
learning how to navigate thisworld.
We started imprinting upon usbeliefs, conditioning, uh,
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social norms, all those things.
Right.
And, so I think that's part ofit too.
Absolutely.
I mean, that is the, thatstarting point is the world that
we know.
So being able to shift out ofthat mindset can be a pretty big
shift.
Going back to meditation andjournaling.
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I do think that that helps to,you know, just have a journal
prompt.
What stories am I telling myselfabout fill in the blank for me?
One was money.
Mm hmm.
You and I have talked about myrelationship with money and I've
had to work on what is my storyabout money.
Um, because there is a storythat I tell myself about money,
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but that's an example, I guess,right.
So I think, you know, part ofwhat you're saying is in order
to address those things, we haveto have an awareness that they
even exist.
That's right.
Yes.
Yeah.
The other thing I would addabout the podcast is I am
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realizing that The extent atwhich when we live a life of
purpose the impact is agenerational impact.
Yes, absolutely.
And that has just kind of blownmy mind to think about the work
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that we are doing, the thingsthat we can do today can be
impactful 30 years from now, 50years from now.
It makes it, think about wherethe conversation was at just a
moment ago.
Like how our childhood, ourbrains are developing, that
starts to shape the world as weknow it.
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By so, by starting this mindsetshift with how we look at things
and bringing things toalignment, it makes sense,
right?
Right.
That the generational impactwould follow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, um, Rhama was on the show andshe had talked about how her
father.
Was pulled out of povertybasically by a French man who
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educated him and through thather father has now educated, I
think 15 people and they've allgone off and now she's trying to
bring education to a evenlarger, right?
One, one interaction.
This French man sees her father,I think he was like building a
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toy or something.
That one moment changed like thecourse of her father's life,
Rhama and her sister's lives andother women in the village.
That one moment.
Exactly.
So that one step forward thatthat Frenchman took started the
series of events.
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And I think about.
That one dinner that we had,right?
Has put in motion so much.
I've had so many people thank mefor just asking the question.
People saying we don't talkabout this and I appreciate you
asking me because I couldreflect on what my life's
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purpose is.
I think that is such, that'ssuch a significant thing.
That importance of just one stepand how that one step forward
can change a whole course ofevents.
Yeah.
One of the things you and I talkabout a lot is our energy.
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Yes.
That is another thing that feelsvery much of a growth area for
me this year.
Yeah, I am definitely, it's beena big thing for me too.
Um, Really, you know, theuniverse doesn't recognize
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positive negative energy, right?
It just reacts to energy.
So making sure that, um, I'mtrying to attract positive into
my life by vibrating in thatway, right?
Yeah.
And I believe it all starts withour thoughts.
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Our thoughts are influencing ouremotions and when we're feeling
in certain ways, that puts outdifferent vibrations of energy.
Mm-hmm And that attracts thatinto our lives.
I mean, think about, like, if,if you're in a meeting and
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someone walks in that's had areally bad day, you can feel
that presence shift the energyin the room.
Mm hmm.
Absolutely.
Versus someone that walks inthat is, um, at peace.
Mm hmm.
That is, it brings a differentdynamic as well.
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Right, absolutely.
So even those moments where it,that have felt tough, I've, I've
really worked this year onreframing how I think about
those moments, how I feel inthose moments, um, to try to
bring more of that positiveenergy no matter what's
happening.
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Yeah.
I have too and you've helped mewith that a lot.
Just being really intentionalwith looking at what are you
thinking?
How is it making you feel?
Because that is the energy thatyou're going to put out.
And the other thing that you'vehelped me with is being really
careful with the words.
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That we say, cause they haveenergy too.
Absolutely.
I think the words that you putout there draw a lot of energy
to them.
You shared a story, someone hadsaid something like, I want to
be as happy as I can till I'm80, or Yes, yes.
Because that's a good example ofthe words that we Yes.
So what is that?
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So, I was, finishing teaching ayoga class, and one of the
students, we were talking aboutgetting together for coffee at
some point and I made a comment.
It was something like she askedme like about skincare or
something.
And so it started this like ageconversation and she said, I
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want to feel good until I'm 80.
And I, and I said to her, Isaid, I want to feel good until
the day I leave this earth.
Because I mean, you should,there shouldn't be a number cap
on it, right?
Right.
Every moment of your life.
Should be well lived Exactly.
So that's a perfect example ofthe words, but it also is the
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thought so she's tell a storyshe tells herself is something
around 80 right and Reframingthat too.
I want to be living my life ateach and every moment of my life
to the fullest Absolutely,you're putting you're putting it
in date on things Yeah, no enddates.
No end dates.
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What do you see looking forward?
Right.
We're coming into 2025.
I know.
I mean, I feel like so muchgoodness has been started this
year.
My mindset just continues toshift on the possibilities.
I, more than ever, I lookforward to every single day.
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And so the work that we're doingwith Purpose Project and what we
have planned for upcomingmonths, I'm excited to share
what we've learned with otherpeople and to magnify this.
Yes, I am too.
Yeah, 2025, I usually do a wordfor the year.
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And I don't have that word atthe time that we're recording
this.
But, um, I am really excitedabout Season two.
I'm excited about season two.
Season two is how purpose showsup in the workforce.
And I have a hypothesis thatsome of these lessons learned
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from individuals will also applyin business.
So I'm excited about season two.
I too am excited about, lookingat Purpose Project In a more
complete manner, which is morethan a podcast and really
looking at ways that we can helpbring purpose into people's
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lives by helping them connect tothemselves, connect to the
environment and, connect to eachother and live that life in
alignment.
Yes.
I think that's such a big thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So one of the, and you knowthis, but, um, one of the
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moments that I had this year wasI had an opportunity to lead a
workshop at Michigan stateuniversity.
And we were both so excitedabout it.
Cause it was the first timePurpose Project was going to be
in, front of people in a livesetting and all of that.
And, um, Going into that was soexcited, but never anticipated
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how I would feel when I wasleaving.
And I remember driving home andjust thinking, oh my gosh, this
has to be more.
You've got to do more.
People need it.
And it was because people'sreaction to the workshop was
good.
But also what I heard frompeople at that conference was
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I'm not happy in my job.
I don't enjoy my job.
It's like we spend so much timeat work and people seem so
miserable and they don't have tobe.
I totally agree with that.
We spend so many hours of ourday at a job and I think that's
one of the things the startupgave me, Leslie.
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Is that sense of freedom thatyou really could love that that
job energized me And I thoughtthat is what work should feel
like right?
Yes, and this thing calledlife's purpose can help you
Create happiness in your job.
I am convinced of it.
I am too.
That's what it should be Iagree.
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Life, even if you live until 100or greater, that's still not too
many years, right?
Right.
So every single day should be alife well lived.
Right.
And we spend so much time atwork.
Yes.
It can, it can be more than apaycheck.
And now I know through seasonone, that for some people, it is
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just a paycheck and that's fine,but it could also, Be more than
that.
You don't have to be miserableto get your paycheck.
And I think some of it is thatreframing too.
So even if it is a paycheck,what does that paycheck enable?
Exactly.
Yes.
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So connecting it to somethingmore meaningful.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
Anything else looking forwardthat has you excited?
Our friendship.
Yeah, I feel like, we met eachother.
What, 20, 20, probably seven, 27years.
Oh, wow.
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20, 20, we'll say over 20.
Yes.
Yes.
So thinking about where thatfriendship started in the
workplace, right.
And it's kind of coming fullcircle again.
So, yeah, yeah.
I'm really excited about ourfriendship, too, and continuing
to grow with each other, fromeach other, and through each
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other, really.
And I think the other piece ofthis is, is really wanting to
have a positive impact onhumanity as much as we can.
Yeah.
We have to save humanity.
Yes.
Why not shoot that high?
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Yeah.
Well, multiple people on, inseason one talked about people
just being disconnected.
Don Wettrick talked about theobsession with our phones and
how it's, it is taking away ourattention.
And, um, Ethan Butte talkedabout, um, our lack of
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connection to the environmentand to each other.
And I, I just, I feel like allof that is impacting people's
happiness.
Absolutely.
And we've got to get back to thesense of connection, really.
Yes.
Yeah.
Our friendship is going toThat's right.
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We're going to do it.
We're going to save humanity.
One small step and look whatit's turned into.
Exactly.
Yeah.
One small step at a time.
We're going to do it while we'rescared.
Yes.
Yes.
And other people are going to doit too.
That's right.
That's right.
Our bravery will hopefully, Ialways say in my yoga class.
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You know, when people are likeunstable and shaking like go to
the wall and your people getafraid to move around and I
always say like your braverywill inspire someone else.
That's right.
Yes.
So, yeah, hopefully our braveryinspires other people.
I hope so too.
I know it.
I already know it is becausepeople have told me.
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Yes.
Yeah.
Anything else?
No.
How about from you?
I can't think of anything else.
It's been an incredible year.
I feel very grateful it feelsgood to feel that way too.
Yes, I know.
I just, feels like there's justlimitless possibilities.
If I think about like how I feelright now, it's My heart just
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feels like, like literally itfeels very open.
Mine does too.
And it feels good.
Thank you Amy.
Thank you.
The season one finale of PurposeProject was released on December
17th, 2024.
And if you're listening to thisepisode around that time, I want
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to share something importantwith you.
I'm going to be taking a shortbreak from the podcast.
I'm going to take some time toreally reflect and capture all
of the things that I havelearned through season one and
share that with you in a newway.
Through written posts onLinkedIn.
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If you haven't already, Iencourage you to follow Purpose
Project on LinkedIn.
I'll put a link in the shownotes so that we can stay
connected during this time.
I'm also excited to announcethat I've already started
working on season two.
The next season, we are going toexplore how Purpose shows up in
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the workplace.
It's a topic that I ampersonally very deeply
passionate about because Ibelieve that everyone deserves
to find meaning and fulfillmentin their employment.
And I'm really looking forwardto exploring how that can happen
from both what companies can doto create a connection to
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employee purpose, and whatemployees can do to connect
their purpose in their job.
Creating and sharing PurposeProject with you has been such
an incredible honor.
Thank you for being a part ofthis journey, and I can't wait
to see where we go next.
Until then, take care and keepliving with purpose.
Leslie (40:17):
Purpose Project is brought to you for education and
for entertainment purposes.
This podcast is not intended toreplace the advice that you
would receive from a licensedtherapist or doctor or any other
qualified professional.
And just like that, we havereached the final episode of
season one.
Hi everyone.
My name is Leslie Pagel.
Welcome to Purpose Project.
This season has been anexploration on the topic of
life's purpose.
It has been an explorationthrough conversations with
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individuals who have clarity intheir life's purpose and they're
actively pursuing it.
In this final episode, I amjoined by my dear friend and
partner in this Purpose Project,Amy Helene.
Together in this episode, wereflect on the themes that have
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emerged throughout the season.
We celebrate where we've beenand we look forward to what's
next.
Let's dive in.
For joining us on PurposeProject.
If you have been following alongin Season 1, you would have
noticed that I have beeninterviewing people who have a
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clear understanding of theirlife's purpose and are actively
pursuing that.
Today on this episode, we'regoing to do something totally
different though.
I have invited my friend, AmyHelene on the show and Amy and I
are going to sit here and have aconversation about this year,
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which has been a journey throughthe topic of life's purpose.
If you haven't watched episodefour, I would encourage you to
go check that out because inepisode four, Amy was also on
Purpose Project talking aboutthe origin of the And now we're
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back and we're going to talkabout the progress that we've
made since the start.
So thank you, Amy, for beinghere.
Thank you for inviting me back.
So it's been a crazy year.
A lot has definitely happenedover the course of this year
from that dinner where it allstarted to this To everything
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that's, that's unfolded over thecourse.
Is there, when you think backover the year, is there any one
thing that stands out over theothers or, you know, I think, I
think that the common underlyingelement of everything that's
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transpired is trusting.
When things are meant to end, sothat new doors can open and you
can start taking steps forward.
So what I mean more specificallyby that, when I was on episode
four, I was with the startupcompany and I thought that maybe
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that that was going to be whereI was landing.
And it became clear that thatdoor needed to close.
Um, and I was really hoping thatmaybe that's where I was going
to land, at least for a periodof time.
Yeah.
Um, but knowing, recognizingthat that, maybe that door was
meant to shut and something elsecould come in.
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Yeah.
Well, and as you were talkingabout trusting, you were saying.
I, um, also had a door closethis year.
So, um, our dinner was inFebruary.
The first recording of PurposeProject was in May.
Um, it wasn't released untilAugust, but I was recording
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earlier.
And at the end of June, I foundout that my position was been
eliminated.
And in the conversation, Iremember thinking, of course,
this is what is happeningbecause I'm being directed
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towards something new.
And I don't think if this hadn'tbeen happening, I don't think I
would have had that mindset.
But in the moment, I'm losing myjob.
My job is being eliminated.
I remember thinking my firstthought was, of course it is
because another doors opening.
That's right.
That's right.
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And I think it's hard sometimes,you know, you can take a moment
like that.
Prior to this year, maybe thereaction would have been a more
negative response.
Why is this ending?
Why is it happening to me?
But I think what we are findingthrough this course of
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exploration is, is that when onedoor closes, it's because this
new path is opening up.
And I think for both of us, Youknow, some of the things we've
been exploring, like meditation,has helped us to trust in that
process.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
I mean, I will tell you, it hasnot been easy to always trust.
Um, my first thought was atrusting thought, but when you
lose your job and You getrejection after rejection, after
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rejection from, mm-hmm Jobsearching.
Right.
It's, uh, it can be hard totrust.
Mm-hmm But you did mentionmeditation.
I, uh, and I had startedmeditating before I lost my job.
I think it was two weeks beforeyou and I met for dinner.
And you were talking aboutmeditation and I thought, okay,
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I'm going to give it a go.
But I do think that helped methrough some of those hard times
as well.
Yeah, you know, There was aperiod in my life where a
disappointment like a job lossor something would happen.
Yeah.
And it would just really pull medown.
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And I would think, you know,what could I have done
differently?
What did I do wrong?
A job search, you know, I feellike I'm qualified for this.
Why is it not coming through forme?
But I will tell you, and for me,it was, it's really via
meditation.
I have learned.
That, to feel some almost, Idon't know if excitement is the
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right word, but acceptance andit means what's meant for me
will come my way.
Right.
But it, that has not happenedovernight, Leslie.
I mean, it's been a journey tocome to that for me.
Mm hmm.
Well, and you used that wordacceptance just now, and it's
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become a little bit of a triggerword for me because you also
used it in the February dinnerthat started this whole thing
called Purpose Project.
And at the time I was reading abook called Radical Acceptance
and you use the word acceptance,you use it now, and it, it
really is this idea of justaccepting what is, there is no
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good or bad, it just is, and itmight feel hurtful, I did, I've,
I had a, months of really deepsadness that I was going
through.
And so it felt sad, but it wasneither good nor bad.
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It was just what was, I had togo through it.
And I think it's meditationthat's really brought me to
that, being able to accept, youknow, when you're meditating,
you might have those thoughtsfloat up in your mind, and you
observe them, and you let thempass.
Um, yeah.
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Yeah, I think for me,meditation, definitely, through
the second half of this year hashelped me.
But I've started journaling, soI've journaled every day this
year, except for one day Iforgot.
Um, and that's really helped meexpress feelings, process them,
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reflect on them, instead of justpush them down.
Which I imagine some of thathappens in my meditation as
well.
I think journaling is importantbecause it gives you more time
to really process through thethoughts.
There's something about theaction, you know, writing is a
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meditation in a way, right?
where you're going through thatmotion of putting your thoughts
into words and you're, becauseyou're scripting it out.
You're not typing it intosomething, but you're, you know,
handwriting those thoughts.
So that makes sense to me thatyou are processing in a
different way with journaling.
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Yeah.
I'm a bad journaler.
Like I'll start it and stop it.
Um, but every time I do it,There is a way of processing
information that doesn't processthe same with just thinking.
Yeah, and I was a bad journaleruntil this year.
I don't, I don't know why, butI've kind of, I did make a
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commitment to journal every dayand I've kept it.
Yeah, you've really developed aritual, really, with your,
because it's not journaling,you're doing it part of like
this whole.
Ritual.
It is definitely.
I've got a morning ritual.
That is a new thing for me thisyear that I love.
It's my favorite part of the dayreally is getting up and going
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into my morning routine, whichis all about grounding, becoming
grounded okay, so your year inreview is about accepting,
trusting, trusting that when adoor closes another opens.
Yes, and to trust my intuitionon things, too.
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So, you know, the startup ended,and I didn't have any, like, I
ended that.
I self ended it, which is alsovery unusual for me.
Typically, I wouldn't.
Walk away for something.
Um, but it was clear it was timeto walk away and I didn't have
anything lined up.
But then I had a networkingmeeting, but I, I, I felt that
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conversation immediately and Ithought.
This is where I'm landing next.
Like I just felt it deeply andit was a very long drawn out
process.
I think that breakfast was inearly May and it did not come to
fruition until I think I got theoffer maybe like late July.
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And so there were some bumpsalong the way with it, but I
just had this deep sense thatthis was meant to be.
And so I think part of thisjourney has also been really
trusting that intuition andinstinct, and I believe that's
present in all of us.
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It's just whether or not wechoose to tap into it and to
trust it and go with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So when I think about for methis year, this sense of freedom
is what I feel.
And I think part of it isbecause I have taken
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responsibility for my happiness.
And I was, I've been veryintentional with it.
This whole Purpose Projectstarted because our dinner and I
was thinking, I've got thisfeeling, intuition.
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I've got this feeling in my gutthat I'm supposed to be doing
something that has a meaningfulimpact on this world.
And I don't know what that is.
So I'm going to go explore it.
And I did it because you alsosay get out of your head and
into action.
I think that's the other bigpiece.
And I love that you saidresponsibility, because I think
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sometimes we have these momentsand we just sit in that moment
and we don't take a stepforward.
And I very much believe part ofthis is you have to take a step
forward.
You have to get out of your headwith it and take, even it's just
one little step, right?
You take one little step andthen you take one more step.
Yeah.
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And that's when doors open.
Janeva Shaw was on the show,episode 5, and she encouraged us
to do it even when we're scared.
I, I think that's the big thing.
Absolutely.
Yes.
Just do it.
One step and it doesn't have to,she also talked about one thing
every single day.
And it's just one little step.
Do it even if you're scared.
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I believe that.
I also think it just builds yourconfidence too.
Absolutely.
Well, and through all of that,yet going back to the, like the
word that came up for me, whichis freedom.
I, I have this sense of freedomover my life.
And, um, it's a new feeling forme.
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So I'm having a hard time evenkind of articulating it.
But I do think it was because ofthe responsibility, I went and
did it, did it scared, still I'mscared and, but I feel alive,
that's the another word, justreally alive, like I'm living.
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Yes, and I think part of that, Iknow exactly what you mean, I,
you know, I, you know, I I feellike at age 50, I feel like I'm
actually really living now in away that I hadn't previously.
So what is that for you?
How is that, how has it changedfor you?
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What do you mean how has itchanged for me?
So like for me, I feel like it'sbecause of Purpose Project and
what I've been doing with this.
So I think some of it's justComing out of reacting and
living from fear and trustingthat when one door closes,
something else is going to openup.
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But I have responsibility inthat.
And my responsibility in that istaking steps forward.
And really pursuing those thingsthat I feel internal joy from.
Um, I think for me, I can tellwhen things don't sit with my
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spirit and I used to kind offorce myself through those
moments.
Um, and I don't do that as likeI used to.
Right.
Yeah.
How did you flip that switch?
You know, I keep, I know I keepbringing up meditation, but
meditation is really been whathas transformed.
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In just so many ways, I don't, Idon't feel as reactive to
stressful moments like I usedto.
Um, I think it's made me trustmyself more.
It's made me trust my intuition.
I think it's made, I don't knowif it's made me more intuitive
or if it's just made me trustthat intuition.
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in a way that I didn't in thepast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what have you learned fromPurpose Project?
Oh, I've learned a ton.
I'll start by saying that.
What I'm walking away fromSeason 1 is having a really
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clear understanding of whatlife's purpose is and what it is
not.
Okay, so tell me more.
Um, coming into this, it was allabout, What am I supposed to do
and exploring life's purposeand, and I was thinking that
it's this thing that I'msupposed to go do that.
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That's what life's purpose is.
It's a goal.
It's, it's something to goaccomplish.
And what I'm coming to realizeis that.
Life's purpose is about being.
It's an alignment that we havebetween who we are, our being
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and what we do, our actions inthe world.
So it's not necessarily aboutaccomplishing things.
People have been on the showthat haven't had goals of
specific things.
Now there have been people onthe show that have had a goal,
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you know, and that's okay too.
And that is a purpose, but itreally is about this alignment
between understanding ourselvesand And, and making sure that
our actions line up to that.
And when we are in alignment, weare living out a purposeful
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life, a life purpose.
And I've also become reallyclear that.
Our purpose evolves over time.
Absolutely.
Yes.
And so that alignment isconstantly, it's, it's a
constant state of alignment.
We're not these stagnantindividuals, right?
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Yes.
We're in constant growth andevolution.
So to think that it's just thisone thing in our life.
When grandiose event justdoesn't.
Fit with how life works.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And we evolve and people havebeen on the show sharing their
purposes and it seems like theyhave fallen into a couple
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categories.
And I think that some of thatmight align with where they are
in their lives.
So one category is this categoryof responsibility.
Um, Brandi, talked about herpurpose right now is to be a
mother to her family, but that'sa responsibility, right?
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Janeva talked about caring forher mother when her mother was
dying.
That's a responsibility purpose.
The other is, is an achievement.
It's a goal oriented, Rhamatalked about creating schools
for girls And then the thirdcategory of purpose is about the
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state of being.
So an example of that, CrystalMorse was on the show episode
two, I think, and she talkedabout her, how her purpose is to
be a light in people's day.
That's just like a state ofbeing, you know, right.
And so you can see how, as yougrow in your life, how it might
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flow into different.
Types of stated purposes in theworld.
Absolutely.
You know, and I, the other thingI would say to that is I think
sometimes when we ask people,what is your purpose in life?
It seems like it needs to bethis big grandiose thing.
It could be that I held the dooropen for someone and it made
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their day.
Cause I didn't slam the door intheir face or what, you know
what I mean?
Right.
It can be just these littlemoments that you have.
In life.
I think that is a paradigm shiftthat we have to create to make
the topic of purpose, feel moreaccessible to people because
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there was one episode.
Where, Ethan Butte came on theshow and he doesn't have a
life's purpose.
Yes.
And one of the things that hewas talking about is it feels
like it's so big and grand andhe said there's fun in that, in
that idea of purpose, but itfeels so big and grand and to
have just one life's purpose.
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And so I do think coming out ofseason one.
There's some paradigm shifts andthat's one is it doesn't have to
be this big thing It really isabout this alignment between who
you are and how you're showingup in the yes I love that you
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said that living this life inalignment It seems like it
should be so easy to do, right?
Just be who you are and takeactions in life that But there's
so many different societalpressures.
Yes, it can make you pivot fromthat alignment Yes, so it really
requires a lot of internalstrength To live an aligned life
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it I agree with that And I thinkthe other thing I would add is
Um Looking at yourself in themirror, and accepting everything
you see, and being honest, fullyhonest with yourself, you don't
have to tell anyone, but beingreally open and honest about
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what you're scared of, what,what shame you might have.
And accepting, and that is sohard to do.
Yes.
It almost makes me tear up,Leslie.
Because you want that foreveryone.
To feel like you can live thelife of who you fundamentally
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are.
Everyone should have that.
Everyone should feel thatfreedom to be able to do that.
Right.
But it is hard.
Why is it so hard?
Because we're afraid of thejudgment, right?
That we might experience byliving that life of who we
really are.
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Yeah.
Right.
What do you think?
I think that's true.
I do think that, judgment is abig piece of it.
I also think in a lot of.
What I've been learning thisyear comes from Purpose Project,
but it comes from other sourcesoutside of the podcast.
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And one of those is Jim Fortin.
And I know you've been listeningto some of his podcasts.
Um, so I've been consuming hispodcasts and he talks a lot
about judgment.
But he also talks a lot aboutthe stories that we tell
ourselves and these stories thatwe tell ourselves Come from our
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childhood Mm hmm, and we don'teven know that we're telling
them to ourselves But they arestories that have been rooted in
Um, our childhood as our brainswere developing and we were
learning how to navigate thisworld.
We started imprinting upon usbeliefs, conditioning, uh,
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social norms, all those things.
Right.
And, so I think that's part ofit too.
Absolutely.
I mean, that is the, thatstarting point is the world that
we know.
So being able to shift out ofthat mindset can be a pretty big
shift.
Going back to meditation andjournaling.
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I do think that that helps to,you know, just have a journal
prompt.
What stories am I telling myselfabout fill in the blank for me?
One was money.
Mm hmm.
You and I have talked about myrelationship with money and I've
had to work on what is my storyabout money.
Um, because there is a storythat I tell myself about money,
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but that's an example, I guess,right.
So I think, you know, part ofwhat you're saying is in order
to address those things, we haveto have an awareness that they
even exist.
That's right.
Yes.
Yeah.
The other thing I would addabout the podcast is I am
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realizing that The extent atwhich when we live a life of
purpose the impact is agenerational impact.
Yes, absolutely.
And that has just kind of blownmy mind to think about the work
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that we are doing, the thingsthat we can do today can be
impactful 30 years from now, 50years from now.
It makes it, think about wherethe conversation was at just a
moment ago.
Like how our childhood, ourbrains are developing, that
starts to shape the world as weknow it.
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By so, by starting this mindsetshift with how we look at things
and bringing things toalignment, it makes sense,
right?
Right.
That the generational impactwould follow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, um, Rhama was on the show andshe had talked about how her
father.
Was pulled out of povertybasically by a French man who
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educated him and through thather father has now educated, I
think 15 people and they've allgone off and now she's trying to
bring education to a evenlarger, right?
One, one interaction.
This French man sees her father,I think he was like building a
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toy or something.
That one moment changed like thecourse of her father's life,
Rhama and her sister's lives andother women in the village.
That one moment.
Exactly.
So that one step forward thatthat Frenchman took started the
series of events.
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And I think about.
That one dinner that we had,right?
Has put in motion so much.
I've had so many people thank mefor just asking the question.
People saying we don't talkabout this and I appreciate you
asking me because I couldreflect on what my life's
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purpose is.
I think that is such, that'ssuch a significant thing.
That importance of just one stepand how that one step forward
can change a whole course ofevents.
Yeah.
One of the things you and I talkabout a lot is our energy.
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Yes.
That is another thing that feelsvery much of a growth area for
me this year.
Yeah, I am definitely, it's beena big thing for me too.
Um, Really, you know, theuniverse doesn't recognize
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positive negative energy, right?
It just reacts to energy.
So making sure that, um, I'mtrying to attract positive into
my life by vibrating in thatway, right?
Yeah.
And I believe it all starts withour thoughts.
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Our thoughts are influencing ouremotions and when we're feeling
in certain ways, that puts outdifferent vibrations of energy.
Mm-hmm And that attracts thatinto our lives.
I mean, think about, like, if,if you're in a meeting and
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someone walks in that's had areally bad day, you can feel
that presence shift the energyin the room.
Mm hmm.
Absolutely.
Versus someone that walks inthat is, um, at peace.
Mm hmm.
That is, it brings a differentdynamic as well.
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Right, absolutely.
So even those moments where it,that have felt tough, I've, I've
really worked this year onreframing how I think about
those moments, how I feel inthose moments, um, to try to
bring more of that positiveenergy no matter what's
happening.
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Yeah.
I have too and you've helped mewith that a lot.
Just being really intentionalwith looking at what are you
thinking?
How is it making you feel?
Because that is the energy thatyou're going to put out.
And the other thing that you'vehelped me with is being really
careful with the words.
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That we say, cause they haveenergy too.
Absolutely.
I think the words that you putout there draw a lot of energy
to them.
You shared a story, someone hadsaid something like, I want to
be as happy as I can till I'm80, or Yes, yes.
Because that's a good example ofthe words that we Yes.
So what is that?
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So, I was, finishing teaching ayoga class, and one of the
students, we were talking aboutgetting together for coffee at
some point and I made a comment.
It was something like she askedme like about skincare or
something.
And so it started this like ageconversation and she said, I
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want to feel good until I'm 80.
And I, and I said to her, Isaid, I want to feel good until
the day I leave this earth.
Because I mean, you should,there shouldn't be a number cap
on it, right?
Right.
Every moment of your life.
Should be well lived Exactly.
So that's a perfect example ofthe words, but it also is the
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thought so she's tell a storyshe tells herself is something
around 80 right and Reframingthat too.
I want to be living my life ateach and every moment of my life
to the fullest Absolutely,you're putting you're putting it
in date on things Yeah, no enddates.
No end dates.
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What do you see looking forward?
Right.
We're coming into 2025.
I know.
I mean, I feel like so muchgoodness has been started this
year.
My mindset just continues toshift on the possibilities.
I, more than ever, I lookforward to every single day.
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And so the work that we're doingwith Purpose Project and what we
have planned for upcomingmonths, I'm excited to share
what we've learned with otherpeople and to magnify this.
Yes, I am too.
Yeah, 2025, I usually do a wordfor the year.
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And I don't have that word atthe time that we're recording
this.
But, um, I am really excitedabout Season two.
I'm excited about season two.
Season two is how purpose showsup in the workforce.
And I have a hypothesis thatsome of these lessons learned
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from individuals will also applyin business.
So I'm excited about season two.
I too am excited about, lookingat Purpose Project In a more
complete manner, which is morethan a podcast and really
looking at ways that we can helpbring purpose into people's
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lives by helping them connect tothemselves, connect to the
environment and, connect to eachother and live that life in
alignment.
Yes.
I think that's such a big thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So one of the, and you knowthis, but, um, one of the
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moments that I had this year wasI had an opportunity to lead a
workshop at Michigan stateuniversity.
And we were both so excitedabout it.
Cause it was the first timePurpose Project was going to be
in, front of people in a livesetting and all of that.
And, um, Going into that was soexcited, but never anticipated
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how I would feel when I wasleaving.
And I remember driving home andjust thinking, oh my gosh, this
has to be more.
You've got to do more.
People need it.
And it was because people'sreaction to the workshop was
good.
But also what I heard frompeople at that conference was
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I'm not happy in my job.
I don't enjoy my job.
It's like we spend so much timeat work and people seem so
miserable and they don't have tobe.
I totally agree with that.
We spend so many hours of ourday at a job and I think that's
one of the things the startupgave me, Leslie.
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Is that sense of freedom thatyou really could love that that
job energized me And I thoughtthat is what work should feel
like right?
Yes, and this thing calledlife's purpose can help you
Create happiness in your job.
I am convinced of it.
I am too.
That's what it should be Iagree.
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Life, even if you live until 100or greater, that's still not too
many years, right?
Right.
So every single day should be alife well lived.
Right.
And we spend so much time atwork.
Yes.
It can, it can be more than apaycheck.
And now I know through seasonone, that for some people, it is
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just a paycheck and that's fine,but it could also, Be more than
that.
You don't have to be miserableto get your paycheck.
And I think some of it is thatreframing too.
So even if it is a paycheck,what does that paycheck enable?
Exactly.
Yes.
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So connecting it to somethingmore meaningful.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
Anything else looking forwardthat has you excited?
Our friendship.
Yeah, I feel like, we met eachother.
What, 20, 20, probably seven, 27years.
Oh, wow.
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20, 20, we'll say over 20.
Yes.
Yes.
So thinking about where thatfriendship started in the
workplace, right.
And it's kind of coming fullcircle again.
So, yeah, yeah.
I'm really excited about ourfriendship, too, and continuing
to grow with each other, fromeach other, and through each
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other, really.
And I think the other piece ofthis is, is really wanting to
have a positive impact onhumanity as much as we can.
Yeah.
We have to save humanity.
Yes.
Why not shoot that high?
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Yeah.
Well, multiple people on, inseason one talked about people
just being disconnected.
Don Wettrick talked about theobsession with our phones and
how it's, it is taking away ourattention.
And, um, Ethan Butte talkedabout, um, our lack of
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connection to the environmentand to each other.
And I, I just, I feel like allof that is impacting people's
happiness.
Absolutely.
And we've got to get back to thesense of connection, really.
Yes.
Yeah.
Our friendship is going toThat's right.
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We're going to do it.
We're going to save humanity.
One small step and look whatit's turned into.
Exactly.
Yeah.
One small step at a time.
We're going to do it while we'rescared.
Yes.
Yes.
And other people are going to doit too.
That's right.
That's right.
Our bravery will hopefully, Ialways say in my yoga class.
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You know, when people are likeunstable and shaking like go to
the wall and your people getafraid to move around and I
always say like your braverywill inspire someone else.
That's right.
Yes.
So, yeah, hopefully our braveryinspires other people.
I hope so too.
I know it.
I already know it is becausepeople have told me.
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Yes.
Yeah.
Anything else?
No.
How about from you?
I can't think of anything else.
It's been an incredible year.
I feel very grateful it feelsgood to feel that way too.
Yes, I know.
I just, feels like there's justlimitless possibilities.
If I think about like how I feelright now, it's My heart just
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feels like, like literally itfeels very open.
Mine does too.
And it feels good.
Thank you Amy.
Thank you.
The season one finale of PurposeProject was released on December
17th, 2024.
And if you're listening to thisepisode around that time, I want
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to share something importantwith you.
I'm going to be taking a shortbreak from the podcast.
I'm going to take some time toreally reflect and capture all
of the things that I havelearned through season one and
share that with you in a newway.
Through written posts onLinkedIn.
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If you haven't already, Iencourage you to follow Purpose
Project on LinkedIn.
I'll put a link in the shownotes so that we can stay
connected during this time.
I'm also excited to announcethat I've already started
working on season two.
The next season, we are going toexplore how Purpose shows up in
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the workplace.
It's a topic that I ampersonally very deeply
passionate about because Ibelieve that everyone deserves
to find meaning and fulfillmentin their employment.
And I'm really looking forwardto exploring how that can happen
from both what companies can doto create a connection to
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employee purpose, and whatemployees can do to connect
their purpose in their job.
Creating and sharing PurposeProject with you has been such
an incredible honor.
Thank you for being a part ofthis journey, and I can't wait
to see where we go next.
Until then, take care and keepliving with purpose.
Leslie (40:17):
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for entertainment purposes.
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