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March 10, 2022 14 mins

In the first section of this podcast conversation between Julie and Kasandra, we learn how each one of them first came to Cathedral of Hope and how they met and became friends in a Small Group at Cathedral. It was because of that friendship that Kasandra, a straight black woman felt comfortable in inviting her lesbian white friend Julie to a non-sanctioned book study about the book I’m Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness by Austin Channing Brown.

Also note there are three other participants in the podcast, specifically two dogs named Harry and Luna and one cat named Oreo. So, you’re gonna hear the tinkling of the dogs’ name tags when they shake their heads, their panting while being petted, and the cat meowing in protest when being picked up. Everyone is invited to this podcast.

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